Obama : Nothing New in Leaked Afghan Documents ($7.5 Billion to Pakistan is potential Treason)

[mandy26lez]

obama is the REAL muslim terrorist!

[bademoxy]

The onus is on muslims to prove that mohammad never authorised(nor participated in) the execution/assassination/enslav­ement/marital or non marital rape/land invasion/looting/coerced conversions/torture or amputations of ;

surrendered military opponents, peaceful protesters or critics, non abramic/nonbelievers resisting conversion or refusing to pay tax(protection money) and finally apostates.

failure to prove mohammad's innocence of warcrimes convicts islam as a criminal fascist deathcult

[bademoxy]

there are photos of the grand mufti of jerusalem meeting with top nazi officials including himmler . this also was in connection to his visit to the auschwitz death camp. all this after british officials made the mistake of entrusting this shitskin islamofascist with a leadership role in palestine.

up until that time both jewish and arab battalions fought for western allies.- still wonder how jews got favoured over palestinians for land?

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Again......one retard mufti doesnt discredit the entire muslim race. The idiot just wanted the british to get out of Jerusalem. Didnt care what he had to do to get there. Also incase you dont know, muslims,hindus etc from south east asia fought against nazis. But muslim involvment was minimal. And again, incase you didnt notice........NAZIS WERE CHRISTIANS!!!!!!!

ALL OF THEM!

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -there were large numbers of croat muslims, kazakistani muslims, albanian muslims,chechin muslims who volunteered (not conscripted) to fight in the most viscous of hitler's units -the SS. they were the ones who did the real atrocities against civilians- that was NOT the regular army.

the german army forbade officers from ANY political membership.

but nazism was required of all SS.

Hitler fooled germans by calling his party socialist(NAZI was NATIONAL SOCIALIST abbrieviated)

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy U are a lying moron with absolutely no link to reality, u ignore everything i say and never reply to it and just pull more crap out of ur ass. Did the pretty white bunny on ur shoulder say all of that bullshit to u? Cuz seriously dude, if u actually expect me to believe that hitler would let his personal army have ppl of so many races then ur high on some serious drugs. Get a life. ARIAN RACE SUPREMACY?

Nyways im done with ur lyin fake ass. Wont reply back.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -no problem, shit skin-so piss off - muslim apologists spread their antiwestern bullshit on sites like this all the time. all i'm doing is exercising my freedom of expression to counter them with my own suspicions. i know i won't change the mind of a religious idealist, no matter how scientifically constructed is my argument.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy HAHAHAHAHA.......anti western? no i dont hate every1 in the west. Just dumbass americans!

You are all idiots and the world hates you. Open ur eyes and look at the world. Ppl in canada, all across europe hate u guys more then ny1 else. Scientifically constructed? LMAO u just pulled out bullshit out of ur ass with no facts and backings. Not 1 link, not 1 quote......NOTHING AT ALL!

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -ha-ha- the jokes on u-i'm a canadian! i was born into a left leaning family and work with many muslims, hindus and a few buddists, so i can see thru this cultural relativist/politically correct bullshit which denies the obvious technical and cultural superiority of the judeochristian and greco-roman empires. we could wipe out you and all your west hating comrades in a few days if we threw out all our rules governing military warfare.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Wait a second......a canadian is saying that they cud destroy us? By isolating urself from the world? LMAO............u are in no wars, never have been!!!! Cultural and race superiority? Bious towards muslims is one thing but a racist. Lol..........Well their is no reason to argue with u then. And destroy us? Korean-american war? Present day afghan-american war? soviet-afghan war? The fucking crusades?

[bademoxy]

top nazi officials including hitler and himmler voiced regrets that all aryans weren't muslim.this is because christ never acted nor told anyone to enslave, lie, rape loot or invade nonchristians, but mohammad clearly participated in all those warcrimes against nonbelievers.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy @bademoxy Hitler and himmler voiced regrets that aryans werent muslims? LMAO. Where did you get that from? Did you just fart that out of ur ass and are now posting this absurdity here? Give me a link to show that. ANY link. Hell, ill even take a blog post, or a comment like that on youtube or ny other site. hallucinations?

And Ur next point? Lets split it into 2. Muhammad never said it either. Show me where he said it and then we can argue.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -you either are denying the existence or validity of the Hadiths, which means you are committing takkyya(lying in order to strengthen islam) or you've never read all the quran AND hadiths .

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Dont tell me wat im doing and wat im not doing. I know my faith better than you. And im not denying the existence of any nonexisting hadith. U said there is a hadith with watever u said, Show them to me. Gimme a link, then we will talk.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy And why he attacked non muslims was always because they actively broke treates, waged war against muslims, helped or indirectly participated in attacking muslims or were seen as a major threat to muslims. Isnt that why america went to iraq? They thought their were WMD's? Also christ never did that because he didnt stay here long enuff. Also he had 12 people with him in his last supper. TWELVE! And one of them was JUDAS. He didnt see ny war or even a battle to comment on wat to do in it

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis "seen as a major threat to muslims" you mean when mohammad said to followers "who will rid me of this rascal" or" no 2 goats would butt heads over her"he considered criticism or sarcasm uttered by ;1 j a ewish poet, 2-two slave girls, 3-a mother of 5 children , and a man over over 90 years to be grounds to have each of these noncombatant civilians slain in their homes by assassins? or what of tribes opposing him but surrendered, the male prisoners he beheaded,then concubined the widows

[bademoxy]

n3crosis-mohammad said christ wasn't crucified-so how is that jesus had that" last supper"? or is that possibility only entertained whenever islamofascist nazis want to manipulate westerners with the line that "jews killed jesus"?

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Well it still was his last supper innit? The last supper on earth......And fuck you for calling us nazi, It was ur christian bretherin who were nazis. And christians have been saying that jews killed christ far before we did. Or are u tellin me that christians changed their religion and book after we said that jews killed jesus?

And give me the links for the "who will rid me of this rascal" etc. cuz im pretty sure ur not using the context.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -mohammad said in his quran that christ never died on the cross, somebody else died in his place. secondly there WAS a conflict going on all around them; jewish resisters fighting roman occupation! judas saw firsthand christ's miracles. obviously gambling god/angles would dramatically rescue christ from roman execution thus proving to rome that it wasn't their emperor who was god.but when his plan failed, you'll read that judas threw away his reward money and hanged himself.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy lol...........I also believe that christ didnt die on the cross and god lifted him up to heaven before he would suffer such a horrible death. And if you are honestly comparing some1 actively in war as a general to some1 who MIGHT have witnessed war, then u must be insane. And also the fact that he never WON a war either, mostly because he never had an army!

[411American]

OBAMA biggest sneak terrorist of them all

[bademoxy]

setting facts straight historically, islam has been at war with nonmuslims and expanding its territory since mohammad in medina 13 centuries ago. the only slowdown was from crusades and later europe's reformation, which what triggered the rennaisance (sure wasn't arab muslim cross pollination, despite what leftard revisionists claim, otherwise islam would've had its own reformation). jews on the other hand fixated around jerusalem ,fighting 2000 yrs to stay there.so forget jews> problem's islam

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Firstly its more then 14 centuries ago. "leftard revisionists"??? Its called reading history. And The Renaissance statement is just absurd. The church destroyed thousands of books saying that if it is in the bible we dont need it and if it is not in the bible then its false. Al Andalus had enormous public libraries. The books burnt in europe by its church were translated again after the crusades and european scholars who were influenced by the muslims at that time took books back.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -o.k., you want to talk book burning? how about when occupying arab muslims destroyed arguably the worlds largest library of classic literature in alexandria?

in the 1100"s islam's most influential cleric decreed against science and reasoning as pursuits which would ultimately challenge islam whereas st thomas in the 1200's stated that science and reasoning could coexist and even benefit christianity.

so which civilisation progressed from donkey carts to space travel,in 3 centuries?

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Its interesting where you took this conversation to. You took one line and ignored the rest. Also the fact that most scholars reject that muslims destroyed the library makes it a faulty one. The 2nd paragraph is hillarious. Which cleric said that? And if christianity could, then why were all the scientist killed and their books destroyed. Stop making absurd statements.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis as islam conquered and acquired the knowledge of earlier civilizations like hindu's numeral system and the greek's philosophy (while taking credit for it, of course), the roman empire had fallen, loosing it's connection to the same greek science . so in spite of islam's head start relative to christianity up until ~1400, that advantage was lost because while islam had madrassas, europe developed universities .

atomic power is sought by islam, but was invented by judeochristianity

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Omg......this is getting absurd. The muslim golden age brought thousands of inventions. According to you all of them were greek and indian? What next? Maybe some of them were chinese and the rest were african with the white man influencing all of them?

And get your facts straight. The fall of the golden age was because of the crusaders and the mongols in the 19th century. Madrassas were always there.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -islam's "golden age" came at the expense of all the nonarab people who were invaded by muslim armies. many people ""not of the book" were not spared from slavery, execution or forced conversion such as the persians (zoroastrians), indians (hindus) and other asians (buddhists). that's why so many nonarabs from iraq to lebanon to egypt and many other places now speak arabic.

and muslims have the gall to whine that they got invaded, mostly in lands they themselves were occupying!

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy OMG this is getting absurd....There were muslim inventors and scientist's who made those inventions. CHEMISTRY in essence was made by muslims. And islamic golden age had started during the 8th century. Muslims got into india during the late 12th century! So slavery and forced conversions regarding the golden age in asia is out of the picture. And when muslims occupied lands, they didnt go to war with china cuz china had banned opium, or spent only a 100 years in india and f'd everythin

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -chinese empires predated islam . it was a confucius society which invented gunpowder,not muslims.

mohammad himself initiated jihadi attacks against christian and jewish lands as soon as he was militarily able, during the medina period. the arab muslim invasion and occupation of persia began less than a century after mohammad's death.

so much for your claim that basically islamic colonial imperialism "was out of the picture".

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Gunpowder has never been claimed to be a muslim invention. Even earlier it was always referred as chinese powder. And I said chemistry. Not gunpowder. And Mohammad (sa) initiated it in places which posed a threat to madinah. After that it was the Arab conquest. Islam was a driving force, but it was arabs who made the conquest. Not Islam.

And so much for your claim that Islamic golden age "came at the expense of all the non arab people"

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis "posed a threat"you mean criticised or parodied mohammad.because there are clear hadith surrahs naming the victims of mohammad, ranging from an elder in his "90s asleep on his bed to a mother in the presence of her young children.

those arab invaders were doing so AFTER not before they were converted to islam.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Lol.......arabs were doing it before as well.

And gimme the hadith before just saying stuff.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy And while the white man was conducting witch hunts etc, muslims were the one's building the universities and compiling thousands of books. This is insanity. Are you going to disregard everything that was done by muslims with your absurd statements which scholars and historians prove as a fact?

If so then this argument is futile. Some1 who chooses to believe in nothing but his own fantasies can't be argued with.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -you accuse me of avoiding your points. so i just made a point of my own; which civilization travelled to the moon? where there any muslims engineering it?

you'll stretch the point that muslims (but it was arabs before islam who invented the zero)invented the chemistry necessary, but it was really chinese who invented the rocket.

so why wasn't it arab muslims who launched the apollo mission?

the printing press,telephone, automobile,flight,concept of individual freedom,abolish slavery

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Okay........When did I accuse you of avoiding my points?

Okay then......Americans travelled to the moon first....Hooray for u. Guess who went to space first? THE NAZIS in WW2!!! Russians and americans copied the v2 rocket made by german scientist. So ur right. The Nazis are the best civilization.......oh wait, no they werent!

Maybe we didnt launch the Apollo mission cuz we werent in ww2 and we didnt get german scientists to work for us.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis much of germany's achievements were well ongoing long before the nazi party, including aerospace development. need i point out that germany was never islamic, however hitler did make a strategic pact with the grand mufti of jerusalem agreeing to force the allies from the middle east once germany defeated russia.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy germany's achievements before the nazi's? Go read the treaty of Versailles. They had hunger and starvation. The agriculture, and industrial sector was in ruins after ww1. Read ur history.

And I know germany was not muslim. But ur pointing out that military and technological advancement judges how some1 is, is absurd cuz the nazis were the best if u view it that way.

And ur grand mufti thingy, no1 knew wat the german's were upto in the death camps! Not even germany's allies!

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis there are photographs and eyewitness accounts of the grand mufti being shown a deathcamp by nazi officials with the arab encouraging his hosts to destroy more jews there.

about the treaty of versailles, in spite of the war damage(small compared to WW2 bombing raids) doesn't mean that all the educated scientists and skilled workers from imperial days simply disappeared.german general staff, torpedos, diesel electric subs, tanks- all WW1- long BEFORE NAZIs-hitler mostly took the credit

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Tell u wat, screw the pics, just give me the link to ur supposed eye witness accounts and I might so much as consider that even happening. Also the fact that one mufti's actions dont speak for the entire muslim population THEN and NOW and even BEFORE him. However the point stays. Advancements in science etc doesnt make sum1 better than the other. And germany had the best scientists then and now! And a lot of those scientist believed and followed hitler.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis so you would waste my time having me dig up those links on AMIN AL HUSSEINI while dismissing his influencing the nazis into liquidating europes jews rather than deporting them as the actions of one lone muslim. this is as unreasonable as saying "prove to me the holocaust, but it doesn't matter since it was mostly hitler ".

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Lol.......ur already wasting ur time with this insanity.

And ur surely insane if u think that a foreigner would influence hitler. The only person that influenced hitler was hitler! He was that self centred. The only other person that might have ny kind of influence on him might have been himler. And yes, it was one lone muslim phsyco who didnt know nythin that was going on.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Also ur trying to link a muslim jackass with no political knowledge to wat was going on and only cared bout the british giving arabs the freedom that they wanted also makes me think if u realize the fact that hitler was CHRISTIAN.

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis americans travelled to the moon PERIOD.even soviets couldn't manage that in spite of using unpaid political prisoners by the millions. you can't blame the crusades for stopping muslim advancement, because the crusades failed to took back almost any land that jihadists were occupying for the previous +2 centuries. the mongels(who adopted islam, never christianity)continued to destroy and pillage from china to persia but never touched arabia.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Americans travelled to the moon because of nazi scientists, PERIOD. And this wasnt even an argument about who travelled to the moon. This was an argument that ppl who travel to the moon arnt automatically superior to others. If thats wat its about then HEY, Muslims made PETROL from CRUDE OIL, So u never actually would have gone to the moon or even had a car if it wasnt us. :)

[bademoxy]

@N3crosis -so you assume that von braun was a nazi when he got into rockets? so you obviously are attributing all german technical advances to the nazi party.> so what came first,post industrial germany or nazism? any honest military historian would say that virtually all the german tech achievements during ww2 were actually in development during the kaiser empire.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Lol........im sure that von braun wasnt a nazi when he got into rockets, but the fact that he turned into a nazi, visited concentration camps, selected the slave labor and ordered punishment really shows how much america cares about the victims of the death camps. By gettin a guy who employed slave labour and did all of that to america and head of development of rocket's.

[N3crosis]

@bademoxy Soviets did wat they did best, force ppl to do stuff. Americans did wat they do best, Bribe and coax ppl to do stuff. And historians actually say that it was the crusades. War at such a large scale crashes every economy down. And mongols? SERIOUSLY? They did that BEFORE they were muslim as well. And they had done most of the destruction BEFORE islam.

[MrFes888]

the US goverment /commercial companies are going to suck the american people dry at this rate,may be they are trying to suck all the american peoples POT of funding before 2012, and i bet all the americans peoples public services are also going to privatised,? just like there doing in the uk,and if im going to be 1 world power stock ,i might as well have MACDONALDS 1/4 lb CHEESE BURGER, TATTOO,D on my head ,,, you have a lot of evil people in power

[rckn4ever]

America should abandoned it's strategy of enlisting the help of the afgan Army in joint exercises. If the Afgans want to do something then they should be assigned to protecting their individual towns & cities. American & Nato forces then can get the job done without fear of their battle plans already being in the hands of the enemy. Now we have stealth & speed to attack the enemy in the feild, mountains & hills. All roads between cities can be secured. If only Patton were alive.

[rckn4ever]

Look, it is as simple as this. They are muslims. The Jihad part of islamic life will always be the force that controls its people through fear and intimidation, Sharia Law. mutilations, stonings, etc., . There is no "moderate" muslim because they are too fearful to speak out. Their families would be slaughtered. Honour killings, etc.

America is fighting that war wrong. There is no way you should be fighting alongside a muslim army. All your plans will be known to the enemy.

[rckn4ever]

I am calling for the Death of all those guilty of Treason. Obama, you are the biggest traitor since Benedict Arnold. America has never seen such treachery. Only the devil himself could be so shrewd and devious. I want to see a shoe and sockless picture of Obama just to prove his feet are not cloven.

[darrellmellissa]

Wheres your birthcetificute Obama. Only cowards hide.

[haider2026]

Please! Please ! Please! keep your money and leave us the hell alone... Your 7.5 billion is peanuts! Your bloody war was exported from afghanistan into Pakistan with the help of your indian friends sending trained terrorists into Pakistan with highly sophisticated weapons... This war has cost us more than 40 billion in just 4 years. Keep you peanuts!

[OzzyPatriot]

He knew of Pakistan's support of Taliban and still paid over 7.5 billion of US tax payer money..IMPEACH (or lynch, I'm not Mother Theressa)

[majikspell1]

Nothing new says Mr Peace Prize? Get the rope out they used on Saddam and use it again already!!!

[VexZeez]

These leaks better help end these wars not expand it. They implicate Pakistan. How is blaming Pakistan going to help end this war? Will the neo-cons use this to their benefit?

[IranContraScumDid911]

@VexZeez Without bullets the Taliban cannot fight. They do not have 30 year old bullets in caves. Ammo has a shelf life. They are being supplied. The war is on Pakistan's border, because that is where it comes from. I have been saying this for years. If we stop money to Pakistan, Pakistan will be forced to stand on their own, and they will not be able to give the Taliban US taxdollars. I agree, Vexx, I do NOT support further military action in Pakistan, nor aid, to any country in taxdollars.

[haider2026]

@IranContraScumDid911 What??? WHAT????? WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT? Its coming from Pakistan??? Man! 85 % of Afghanistan under taliban control and u think they would be stupid enough to bring in ammo from Pakistan border where more than 250k american/afghan and nato soldiers are positioned??? Get the facts right son... When Pakistan asked NATO to mine and fence the border they said NO! Makes us wonder why would they do that... may be to send in indian trained terrorists into Pakistan i suppose.

[IranContraScumDid911]

@haider2026 The IED attacks that have killed record Americans according to the Wikileaks documents show the attacks mostly are on the Pakistani border region of Afghanistan. That is the facts compiled from thousands of IED reports. Our soldiers are dying on YOUR borders. The interior, the Iranian borders, and the northern borders see far fewer IED attacks. The news story is easy to manipulate, the actual numbers and events don't lie. The rise in American deaths is north and south on your border

[haider2026]

@IranContraScumDid911 Please let everyone here know what IED acutally. As per the reports from various news channels ; It is a form of a crude bomb. On the other hand it is interesting to note that indian backed terrorists in Pakistan use frequency hopping radios/plastic explosives and highly sophisticated weapons to spread terror inside Pakistan... Amazing is the fact that american army does nothing to stop the indians working from 13 consulates right along Pakistan/Afghanistan border...

[bademoxy]

@haider2026 -what bullshit! if india wanted to attack paki-land, they have every excuse when terrorist pakis infiltrated and attacked india's parliament(a democratic institute islamofascists wouldn't understand) and other overt acts of war.

the u.s. actually persuaded india against counterattacking pakistan, probably since pakis cooperated with counter soviet operations.

i hope the u.s. pulls out of afghan and cuts off pakistan, limiting nato to carpet bombing pakis for each jihadist crime.

[haider2026]

@IranContraScumDid911 Ok! Then please let Pakistan mine and fence the border! Why do the american object to that proposal? Your observation about americans being killed at Pakistan border; Naturally the fighting always take place where the soldiers are, its not rocket science and please note that Marjah and not exactly 10 minutes drive from Pakistan.

[N3crosis]

@IranContraScumDid911 Nd wat about all the pakistani people dying? The pakistani civilians and soldiers? Apparently that doesnt matter to you at all......As long as they arnt american, u dont care.

We are fighting ur war. Your mess. This was your post cold war havoc that spewed all over the place.

Giving money to a country that is fighting your war is bad. But giving money to israel (OMG UR TAX DOLLARS) who is killing innocent civilians in gaza is perfectly alright.

[haider2026]

@IranContraScumDid911 Then your soldiers should get away from our borders. This whole drama of war on terror got out of hands when people did not even bother to ask bush to present the proof of the real events and people behind 9/11. It is clear now clear that america is sponsoring terrorism in Pakistan when your terrorist remond davis was caught with spying equipment and murdered three Pakistani citizens in cold blood.

[haider2026]

@IranContraScumDid911 Please! stop your generous donation into our corrupt politicians bank accounts. Get the facts right! Pakistan has now the largest gold reserves in the world, which america is after like a hungry dog (Reko Dik Mines). Not to forget the trillions of dollars of coal reserves discovered in Thar, Pakistan. You people stay loyal slaves to the federal reserve (your jewish master). Just try to call for an audit of the federal reserve and the jews will crush your economy like a bug!

[haider2026]

@VexZeez Oh Please... dont blame the poor neo-cons and their jewish zionist masters... They are all about love, flowers and friendship. Like the saying goes nowadays; Israel will fight till the last American... Not even the american army know why they are fighting!

[bademoxy]

@haider2026 just like saudis and hezbollah will fight to the last palestinian.

notice they only send weapons, not infrastructural grants nor any peaceful constructive resources.

the average american soldier is not ALLOWED to speak the politically correct TRUTH . that western civilisation is under attack overtly and covertly by islamofascism.

mohammad authorised assassination of critics and wars of conquest against nonbelievers.his cult is an implacable opponent to democracy and individual rights

[EvesUnderground]

TREASON!  Impeach the fake President!!

[BeantownJim]

joke!

[EXOMATRlXTV]

There is NO evidence whatsoever to link Afghanistan to 9/11(thus just propaganda rhetoric for the gullible)

Obama deliberately did not mention the name wikileaks(dot)org to allow people to investigate for themselves.

Obama does NOT talk what he thinks or wants, he is just a puppet on a string (that was the "change" we are waiting for lol)

Please all Obama supporters & worshipers study Obama Deception Documentary and understand that it is beyond left-right paradigm issue.

John

[majikspell1]

@EXOMATRlXTV Everyone knows the israelis had everything to do with 9/11 then blame it on the Muslims. Glad I dont subscribe to any religion. They are all wacko.

[haider2026]

@EXOMATRlXTV Rightly said... 9 years gone and yet no proof shared with the world as promised by Mr. Bush back in 2001. The US people should demand an end to these false wars and get back the power on your financial resources by banning the jewish zionist run FEDERAL RESERVE.

[GrandArchitect3D]

i sure am glad we have such a competent commander in chief.

[vashguud]

So they gonna kill more Afgani and Pak's , Iraqi and Iranians.. yea.. that will improve our security.... it's so dumb.