i love there conparation with the face recognition is a thing based off movement but the kinect can tell the difference between twins by how they move
It's funny how the mentally disabled person that made this video can't comprehend than the kinect does full 3d motion captures, ie, not only up down left and right, but forward and backwards.
@SasukeBR26 - Yes, since webcams lag (if you have a webcam on PC, view yourself on screen, move your hands quickly and notice lag). Because Move uses PSEye to track balls and Kinect uses cams to players, there is lag to start with. For Kinect, extra lag is added because it has to calculate 20 points in your body for every frame of video, but reduce the number of points to calculate/track and the lag is reduced. So it's about the same as Move when tracking hands only, eg;
this video is pointless, because it just shows stuff has been done before. the point is kinect is 3d and very accurate. the only real reason why kinect sucks is the damn lag.
"Yeah PS3 has better facical recognition" .. wow .. all it did in the Video was to make the NPC say "there you are", which i guess is mainly based on the fact that SOMETHING or SOMEBODY moved in front of the cam. I bet you could just seat your dog in front of it with the same outcome. the xbox did a way better job at least in this video, by singing in the right avatar / profile for the person in front of the kinect.
@Zern227 - Kinect doesn't have problems signing in 'dark skinned people' (as the youtube video below shows) and I'm sure you know that already, but hey, why waste an opportunity, right? ;-)
@MTMind2 How are you going to tell me that kinect doesn't have trouble signing in dark skinned people I'm a dark skinned person and it won't sign me into the right profile and I only have 2 profile on their one fat one and one skinny one. And it signs me into my friends fat mii rip off.
@Zern227 - With all due respect Zern, Kinect has no more trouble signing in black people as it has with white people, that's a fact proven by numerous websites. If you had problems, it had nothing to do with your skin colour. And ANY device with such problems results in countless videos uploaded to YT showing the problem, such as iPhone4's signal issues. So where are the YT videos showing Kinect failing because of skin colour? There are none, but you can find these;
@MTMind2 Uh websites are often unreliable plus most are biased for M$ because they want M$ to pay for their which m$ has done before by anonymous donation. Also it has happened most black people don't want to show their face all over the internet I don't.
@Zern227 - Youtube is full of black people including the video in my last post, so please don't go claiming black people are somehow more afraid to show their faces here on YT than others, because that's not true. You may claim MS pays websites if you like, but MS/Sony/Nintendo etc have NO control over what we upload onto YT (as seen by all the fanboy videos), and so the fact that 2 months after launch there are no videos showing Kinect failing to see black people proves that claim is false. :)
@Zern227 - Seems you're making assumptions that I'm not black :)
So back on topic, there's no way that such a hyped product like Kinect would not have videos on Youtube from gamers demonstrating problems with it recognizing black people if it were true, especially from fanboys attacking Microsoft. Search YT for 'iPhone signal' and there are countless videos about it's problem (too many to count). Do the same for Kinect and no matter what key words we use, no demonstration videos can be found.
@MTMind2 Uh I never implied if you were black or not. And I would like to note that a lot and I do mean a lot of black people are xbox 360 fanboys so why would a fanboy say something wrong about something they love. Demonstration videos I would make one if my camera was working properly it really only recording sound.
@Zern227 - And white 360 fanboys have no black friends, or black room mates, or black family members etc? :) No amount of Apple fanboyism stopped an avalanche of signal problem videos uploaded to YT within days of iPhone4's launch. Hence whichever way you look at it, with an estimated 6-7m Kinects in homes, it is impossible for there to be no videos demonstrating that problem if it were true, especially with all the MS hate out there. Sorry, but until there's proof shown, it remains a myth.
@MTMind2 Well if it isn't true why didn't they use a black person in testing they used a light skinned mexican in place of the black person to hide something why would they.
@Zern227 - Er what tests are you referring to? During development, Kinect was tested with people of all skin colours, since that's the only way to make sure it works for everyone. In the Gadget show (UK), they had a Kinect vs Move feature where the two guests were both black, and they signed in with no problems, just as the black guy in the video I posted had no problems. Until we see videos proving there's a problem, it remains a myth. Hence to quote from Jerry Maguire, "Show me the money!" ;-)
@MTMind2 Uh no they didn't also If it didn't have a recognition problem why would it sign me in when i tried to my white friends profile even though were nothing alike in height weight or size.
@Zern227 - Of course they did, again what test with a mexican are you talking about? Or did you make that up? And the issue isn't about being signed up to the wrong account (which is not reported anywhere btw, so how comes you're the only one in the world?), it's about not being recognised. ALL webcam face recognition compares your face and scores it depending on how closely it matches a stored profile. If you don't score enough points, you fail, simple as that. So your claim is impossible.
@Zern227 - The simple fact is that face recognition is an established webcam application, and hence on Kinect it uses it's standard webcam, not Kinect's InfraRed camera. Hence many laptops now offer face recognition for login via their webcams. HP had a problem with darker skins in one of their models, but it was easily solved by adjusting the software. With PSEye, Sony will probably add that feature to the PS3 in future, and if so, expect the same race claims to appear, even if it's false.
Unless you're a developer, don't knock how long it takes to create something. They have been working on this tech for decades now. Anyone remember the Power Glove for Nintendo? There are two types of innovation, evolutionary and revolutionary. Controller development has been more of an evolutionary process, so it's no surprise that you see elements of past work in present technology. Where Kinect is superior is its ability to bring several developments together in a synergistic way.
@PS3MakeBelive I will recognize black people just fine. And if you don't want to use the face recognition you don't even really need the lights on. There is a video out there by angryjoe that shows him navigating around the menus with no lights while wearing all black clothes. It also shows him playing Dance Central in all black with his face covered by a black hood.
I have both, so no fanboy ranting here. Both are fun.
@MrMustang210 Hmmm i wonder who nintendo got motion the motion control idea from in the first place? Oh thats right that really frikin old PS1 motion controller. Really dude? Pointing fingers at who stole what from who is pointless at this day an age. Sony probably stole that idea from some one back then too. Motion control hasn't been new for years now. Companies do what works, it doesn't matter who did it first. All that matters is who did it better. Move simply works better than the other 2.
@Edornob same here lol kinect works fine for me too no lag or anything its just the ps3 fanboys if one person says ooh it lagged or failed for me they cling to it and try to say its fail lol well im sorry i ventalate my xbox well and clean t regurarly and have never had the RRoD issue and i know how to use my kinect so therefore no issue there sorrry fannnnbooooy
Sony's motion controller design concept & motion controller technology is way different & far superior to nintendo's poorly designed motion controller concept & inferior motion controller technology.
Also the power glove for nes was not a motion controller it was a pressure sensitive when you griped the glove not motion sensitive.Also uforce for the nes was touch sensitive not motion sensitive.A company by the name datasoft inc. created the first motion sensitive joystick controller known as the Le stick which was design for the use of the atari 2600 & commodore 64 & release in 1981.
there both cool but I still like kinect better. cause it has depth perception, u don't need a microphone to talk to it, and u don't have to keep recharging and replacing batteries and controllers. also Iv'e noticed that most eye toy games are basically just a mirror.
@theoriginalJASONXYZ ps move has depth perception 4built in microphones and one charge lasts ten hour. oh and one very important feature buttons. whhhaaaaat?
@Pbjb989 I wasn't trying to bash anyone. just making observations, and giving my opinion. If I was still more of a gamer I would rather have move cause its way less glitchy like u said. but I'm less gamer and more of an entertainment guy now. so kinect makes more sens for me. I just like the idea of controller free navigation. I know that if I bought move it would just end up in my junk drawer in a few weeks, just like my wii motes.
Ok first things first what the heck is the thing where the kid was controlling all the robots, the area where the girl was controlling the music, and the thing where the boy was putting on the robot suit.
the thing about these similaritys is that it looks like kinect does it A LOT better rather than just looking at whatever is closest to the camera its your actual body cuz i played the eyetoy boxing just holding a broomstick up while i was sitting on the floor and theres no way you can get away with that on kinect
I think we should all accept the fact that somehow, someway kinect might screw up or have some defects. Microsoft is not exactly known for having the most reliable products in terms of failure rates for consoles and pcs compared to other companies. I have a 360 and its the third one I had, the previous two suffered the red ring of death. So that hardcore xbox fans better not be surprised IF Kinect has flaws. Better hope it doesnt or nintendo and ps3 fans will be on your ass. HaHa >:D
hahaha this video made me laugh XD dont ask. it may look like that kinect has some of the traits of eye toy but people have misunderstood it for thinking that it is another eye toy, unlike the eyetoy, kinect scans your whole body three dimensionally where the eyetoy interacts with only the picture that is being picked up. there are much much more things you can do with kinect rather than eye toy plus i remember cheating with the eye toy easily by putting my hand near the cam and waving it to win
@louiscarr899 Oh realy that why the creator of eyetoy held a conference how eyetoy uses a depth sensor and and how it allow depths and the hand thing did work well a lot of thing on kinect are also avaible on the eyetoy
2 - Sony did copy the wii, because it's fun, and they improved it to the point where it can be applied to completely different things.
3 - The wii is great, and also is better than kenict, it's funny because Microsoft copied a "failed" idea, and Sony copied a good one.
4 - The "prototype" is actually more advanced than what will ship. They cut costs by making the camera half the resolution, and removing the possessor from it.
@GDhsfsvgful Sony stated their concept back in 2004 with a playstation eye toy demo for the playstation 2 long before wii launched which by the way launched when playstation 3 launched which by the playstation 3 launched with a motion controller called the six axis wireless motion controller so what hell are you talking about it lmfao!
in what way this is copying it just that kinect doesnt have any controlers it is copying.movement without controlers doesnt belong to no one.they just made the thing to make xbox more interesting.And you trols always say "copy" "fake" get a life.
@domcys1 Kinect is a ps eye/eyetoy copy because 1 they started kinect several years after eyetoy. 2. If they didn't copy they wouldn't state this was entirely new. 3. Your kind of trolling Xbot. 4. And to play games without a controller was a sony orignal they made it first, they had the Idea first, and M$ is known for coping and cheating people out of their money and M$ corrupted the BBB so they wouldn't get shut down as they rightfully should and if you don't beleive me look it up on youtube.
@Zern227 - Regarding copying, EVERYONE does it and adds something, it's called progress. MS added motion sensing to their game controller 8 YEARS before Sixaxis, hence MS had that idea long before Sony and released it in 1998;
/watch?v=-Q36BTomIZk
Hence talk of rip-offs, stealing, copying etc, is nonsense. Technology is about progress, where for gaming, companies take current tech and improve it or apply it to new areas. Hence the Wii, PS Move, Kinect, 3DS etc, are all examples of this. :)
@MTMind2 IT uses a gyro lock control stick so no matter how much you move it the control stick inside will stay in place so by turning it the stick will rotate causing it to turn and if we were talking about that tech Le Stick for Atari 2600 would be the first motion control and the arcade was first with motion control.
@Zern227 - Yes, there were examples before, hence I'm not claiming MS were first, just saying everyone copies because that's how technology progresses (hence Sixaxis is an improved FreeStyle Pro, Kinect is an improved EyeToy, PS Move is an improved Wiimote, the N64 controller improved on analog sticks used by Atari and PC etc). And yes, as far as I'm aware, Le Stick for the Atari 2600 (and Commodore 64 for those old enough to remember :-)) was the first motion controller for home gaming systems.
@MTMind2 I'm saying it using gyro lock which is a feature that allows a control stick to stay in place regardless of you moving the controller which is not motion gaming.
@Zern227 - Sorry but you're talking nonsense, if a controller responds to your motion, then that IS motion control. I had such a controller, and you can see how it works in the advert. How it achieves motion control is irrelevent, there could be a little elf inside for all we care, but the point is, lean the controller and it acts the SAME as pushing an analog stick in that direction, where the more it leans, the greater the movement. How is that not motion control? Stop the denial please.
And whilst you at it, you may like to read this review from 1998;
joy-stick*net/reviews/gamepads/freestyl.htm
Quote: "The motion sensing capabilities are very well implemented. With other controllers using this feature there are only extremes of movement. With the Freestyle Pro the degree you move the controller is reflected in the movement you make. However, sticking out you tongue as you play has no effect."
So tell me, which part of "motion sensing" confuses you? :-)
@Zern227 - Are you talking about the same thing here? We are talking about Microsoft's Sidewinder FreeStyle Pro gamepad from 1998. Yes? You TILT the controller to the left and your character/plane/bike etc moves to the left, you TILT the controller to the right and your character moves right, tilt it forward and it moves forward, tilt it back and it moves back. TILTING the controller acts just like an analog stick, same with Sixaxis, which IS motion control! There's no control stick being used!
@MTMind2 It uses a gyro lock control stick which mean if you tilt left the control stick will remain to stay up and make it to move to the left and that works in all directions and even turning the contoller.
@Zern227 - It doesn't matter what it uses or how it works internally, the fact remains that by tilting the controller, it moves your character on screen, hence it senses your motion, which is why it's called "motion sensing"! So again, stop the denial, Sixaxis uses a gyro and accelerometers for sensing motion, hence is an improvement.
You can watch gamers playing around with the Freestyle Pro here;
/watch?v=6ZCkX89aLT0
watch?v=Uj8wrsgYt4E
And you can still buy a Freestyle Pro from Amazon.
@MTMind2 that is still not it doesn't sense the motion the stick is hooked up with wires and by it staying where it is the wires get pulled thus activating the function and by the way how you saying that would basically be any controller would be a motion because it senses the movement.
@Zern227 - To be honest, you really don't know what you're talking about. There is NO STICK in the FreeStyle Pro gamepad, all it has is a D-pad and buttons, where the analog stick function is performed by tilting the gamepad!! Imo, you have looked up info on the net and got it mixed up. Also, the Freestyle Pro gamepad doesn't have a gyro, it uses a 2-axis iMEMS sensor (the ADXL202) which detects tilt. The Wiimote and Sixaxis use more advanced 3-axis sensors, and Sixaxis also has a gyro.
@MTMind2 Their is a stick in the fucking inside I have one and I have because I don't want peopel to tell you don't even have one. Have even taken it apart come tell me when you have.
@Zern227 - LOL! More lies. We've been discussing this gamepad for a whole day and NOW you suddenly claim to have one? :-D. Who do you think you're kidding? Oh yes, you're the same person who claims to have worked for Sony, to have a cousin & friend who works for Nintendo, to have insider knowledge, you claim you can have my house blown up and me beheaded and that you've done it before, and what was the other lie now... oh yes, you're older than 14 yet removed your age of 14 from your profile :-)
@MTMind2 I remove the age from the account because I mostly am on it I didn't make the account and the account is shared. I went and got one the time before I went to sleep that one comment.
@Zern227 - Ok, I'm not going to push you any further on the age issue, I only did so because of your claim that you worked for Sony at sometime. But I have to say Zern, despite your curses and vicious threats towards me at times, I have actually enjoyed our discussions here, but I do feel you've now produced one lie too many, and hence there really isn't any point in us continuing this debate.
Just the same, I wish you all the best and perhaps we'll meet up in another topic at sometime. Bye. :)
@Zern227 - Well after telling so many lies and getting so many facts wrong, I didn't expect you to care, but if you are going to lie, learn how to do it properly. :-)
@Zern227 - Except it's rather ironic that you end your post "sayonara baka" which I believe is japanese for goodbye stupid, and yet very few individuals in this topic have matched the level of stupidity and ignorance that you have shown here. Hence I do find your comment rather amusing :-) (You clam you're not 14 years old,and yet you continue to act as if you ARE 14 years old. Interesting).
controller less gaming on it's own is a guaranteed fail because of limited functionality without a physical controller which anybody with any shred of intelligence can identify.
@Kzius3 actually them wii stole motion controll from sony and rushed through it so it would look like sony stole it from them. I know this because this guy go an interview to meet one of the eyetoy developers and he was using a stick like controller will a ball on top in 2003.
@Zern227 - That's not how it happened. Sony's Richard Marks used STATIC objects like sticks and balls only to interact with the EyeToy (where some demos can be seen on YT). Impressive stuff, but that's as far as it went, they never had a powered wand with buttons and sensors, which is a BIG difference. Once Nintendo announced the Wii, Sony looked at the Wiimote and adapted their tech to offer something similar, using what they learned from the EyeToy, and hence we now have the PS Move.
@MTMind2 Well are fucking retarded you've watched one video of the fucking tests big whoppdy fucking doo. I fucking worked for sony at one point I kniw they made a fucking a test controller because that test was a suscess and the fuck they didn't use sensors the fucking eyetoy uses sensord you retatd. Plus I know one of nintendo employees work at sony at before quitting. Now guess how Nintendo could of figured out about motion controllers. You fucking Twit.
@Zern227 - The fact that you're acting like that is enough to show you didn't work at Sony, much less have access to their technology in development, so quit the lies kid (your profile says you're FOURTEEN!). Sony did not have a test controller like the Wiimote before Nintendo, FACT, especially since Sony would have said so if that was the case. ALL they've ever shown (including their PATENTS) were static objects with EyeToy, no powered wand prior to Nintendo's Wii announcement, but nice try ;-)
@MTMind2 Have you even heard of a persona you fucking twit I would be able to learn Japanese if I'm a kid I use on of my favorite creations as my persona. You haven't learned a god damn thing unless you work there at one point you won't know shit you twit unlike fucking nintendo sony keeps their developements secret until the system is ready and you obviously don't know shit if you never actually worked theri. I really don't like using my real identity because people use it against me.
@Zern227 - Nice try, how many more lies will you be adding? Perhaps you worked for Microsoft and Nintendo too at some point. :-) Your pointless cursing proves you're immature and therefore incapable of an adult discussion, and your lies only serves to give people something to laugh at (sorry, but it's true). You claim Sony had a powered wand with motion sensors before Nintendo, great, then prove it. As the saying goes, put up or shut up. :-)
@MTMind2 No I would never work at those places. My 7th cousin 8th friend work for nintendo who do you think told sakurai the idea to add tripping in SSBB. Personally I hate fanboy and wish they all die I even don't honestly don't care anymore I don't like dealing with fanboy who think they can figure out anything just with a the internet. Go get a life visit Sony and learn stuff by actually going fucking their insteand of staying in your house no life so personally your nothing but a fly.
@Zern227 - More insults I see, so again childish behaviour from you, hence you're definitely 14 (and if you're older pretending to be 14, then I think that would be rather disturbing given all the talk of paedophiles online doing exactly that!).
So again, provide the proof. Anyone can claim anything, but unless you can prove it, it means nothing. Hence to repeat my earlier point, Sony did not have a powered wand before Nintendo, those are the facts unless you prove otherwise.
@MTMind2 Am older than 14 but honestly I'll put anything when making an online account because I honestly don't care and you can't even spell that not how you spell petaviles well I'll do what you say when you follow your own advice so I can become phlisphofical if i have to. And anyway if I didn't want to you to comment again I can just send someone to blow up your house because I do have that power or would you rather have your head cut off all thing I've done before that I can do again.
@Zern227 - Again you prove you're only 14. Enter 'paedophiles' in google and you will see it's spelt CORRECTLY. Now enter your spelling of 'petaviles' and see what you find. Hmmm. Same with phlisphofical, I think you'll find it's spelt 'philosophical', so you're in no position to correct the spelling of anyone. As for your threats, lol, what childish immature and pathetic behaviour, I'm starting to believe you're much younger than 14.
So I ask again, where's your proof? I'm still waiting.
@MTMind2 I actually only had a 3 hrs of sleep now really can a 14 yr old function with only 3 hrs of sleep. Like i said give me yours and I'll give your mines. Don't tell someone one to do something if your not willing to do it yourself. Oh you say my threat s are worht less okay whatever. Your probably a stupid american, you guys do know that 9/11 wasn't caused by terrorist you american do nothing but blame people you don't like as of you blaming sony stealing nintendo ideas.
@Zern227 - Nice attempt at trying to get me to tell you which country I'm from :-), and for your information, I'm a multi-console & PC gamer, hence I own both a PS3 and a 360 (just like I did last gen with my PS2 and XBox), so do keep convincing yourself that I *must* hate Sony just because I said you're wrong. If you can provide proof of your claim, then you'll have something, but without proof your claim is nothing but empty words.
@MTMind2 - My proof? What are you talking about? If you are as clued up as you pretend to be, you would have seen many demos from Richard Marks using balls, sticks and other objects to interact with the EyeToy, many of them here on YT, hence the proof is here! However YOU claim that Sony had a powered wand like the Wiimote in development before Nintendo announced the Wii, therefore it's for you to provide proof of that. Also, I didn't say Sony STOLE Nintendo's ideas, this is not about stealing!
@MTMind2 Yet again your avoiding what I'm asking. Like I said don't ask someone to do something if your not willing to do it yourself. So I tell you how I know when you tell me how you know. Is that hard or are you just mental. And I can tell your american because of the time your commenting it's basically written all over your face. It's a figure of speech so don't say that's stupid. I have all console ever made what do you have a xbox,xbox 360, ps2 ,and ps3.
@Zern227 - Actually, it's you doing the avoiding. There's nothing for me to prove. If I claimed to be a millionaire, then it's for ME to prove it, not for everyone else to prove I'm not. Just the same, here's Richard Marks using sticks & balls to interact with the EyeToy;
watch?v=mheOtyWNjV0
/watch?v=ouz7ym7Ojqs
Like I said in my first post, impressive (which you conveniently ignored!).
So, where's your proof of Sony developing a wand with motion sensors like the Wiimote before Nintendo.
@MTMind2 so you got your proof from youtube I'm not impressed anyone could of made that up if that's all you got then I'm done with you.There is no more need for me to waste my time talking to you.
@Zern227 - How childish. That was Richard Marks, the CREATOR of the EyeToy, and those videos have been around for years and are known to those who follow gaming technology closely. The fact that I know they're real (from 2004) and you don't proves that I know more about Sony's tech than you, and for someone who claims to have worked for Sony and to have inside knowledge, you should be ashamed of your ignorance of Sony's Richard Marks and his superb work developing EyeToy/PSEye and now PS Move.
@MTMind2 - I'm done with you for now. How you can't see that those demos from Richard Marks in 2004 were cutting edge at the time is quite surprising. How you can't see that those demos were the beginning of what was to become the PS Move once the idea of a powered wand was added is also surprising. How you can think they are fake is even worse, and proves you know nothing more about Sony's technology than the average 14 year old online. Sorry, but you're not the Sony fan you think you are.
@Zern227 could you shut the fuck up i never seen an immature under-aged guy who wanna be an attention whore .
dude i have ps3 ps2 xbox psp gc dsi gc gba . i don't have xbox cause ps3 is enough for me and it doesn't mean i hate microsoft.plus that i play halo on my laptop
let me tell you this: Soy was studying on motion sensors before the wii.
Remember the power glove from nes?
guess what nintendo use the same technology because wiimote and power glove works with ir and they both have sensor bar
@xypsilonx What the fuck are you talking about I still play it I don't even put up the sensors and it still works that because it a series of strings that activate the buttons on the controller.
@Kzius3 you also have to look at application with the design.. Because you can take points off from design but the benefits given from that design will out ways the flaws..
okay all of these games and features are completely different. the are just slightly similar. how can you compare that crappy boxing game to the kung fu game. and actually playing soccer to bouncing balls off your head. you sir do not know what you are talking about.
Lol this is how desperate 360 fanboys are.. they are comparing tec that came this year to the tec that came years ago on PS2. lol why dont u compare it to Playstation move.. i guess u will pwn your own video if u make that.. lol FAG.
@PhantasyGod first hit the reply button to troll me correctly and second what is the vid about?? oh yeah comparing NATAL to eyetoy wich is why i compared those 2...
You see once you past 3rd grade they teach you things called "context clues" and you will understand how my comment was relative, im sorry was that word too big??
i love there conparation with the face recognition is a thing based off movement but the kinect can tell the difference between twins by how they move
tonyspazfur 3 months ago
NO KINECT AND EYETOY SUCK MAN IM GONNA STICK WITH MY POWERGLOVE
Lufty25 7 months ago
it shows that the men who created this video is definitely a sony fanboy !
ScaRSeiF44 7 months ago
@ScaRSeiF44 No, it just proves that Sony had the idea first, just Microsoft cant think for themselves :/
LandShark497 2 months ago
It's funny how the mentally disabled person that made this video can't comprehend than the kinect does full 3d motion captures, ie, not only up down left and right, but forward and backwards.
IcyBlaze616 8 months ago
I actually had more fun with Eyetoy then with Kinect
iDeKlein17 9 months ago
i have both kinect and ps3 move and they both have lag if you try move too fast, but unfortunately the kinect lag is much bigger
SasukeBR26 1 year ago
@SasukeBR26 - Yes, since webcams lag (if you have a webcam on PC, view yourself on screen, move your hands quickly and notice lag). Because Move uses PSEye to track balls and Kinect uses cams to players, there is lag to start with. For Kinect, extra lag is added because it has to calculate 20 points in your body for every frame of video, but reduce the number of points to calculate/track and the lag is reduced. So it's about the same as Move when tracking hands only, eg;
/watch?v=-tif-KBZ5Ko
MTMind2 1 year ago
this video is pointless, because it just shows stuff has been done before. the point is kinect is 3d and very accurate. the only real reason why kinect sucks is the damn lag.
wtfronsson 1 year ago
Yeah, only difference is one sucks. Guess which one.
googleygareth 1 year ago
"Yeah PS3 has better facical recognition" .. wow .. all it did in the Video was to make the NPC say "there you are", which i guess is mainly based on the fact that SOMETHING or SOMEBODY moved in front of the cam. I bet you could just seat your dog in front of it with the same outcome. the xbox did a way better job at least in this video, by singing in the right avatar / profile for the person in front of the kinect.
gravedigger1454 1 year ago
@gravedigger1454 False I've tried also Kinect is racist it has trouble signing in dark skinned people.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Kinect doesn't have problems signing in 'dark skinned people' (as the youtube video below shows) and I'm sure you know that already, but hey, why waste an opportunity, right? ;-)
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youtube(.)com/watch?v=7va5Z6wqj6I
MTMind2 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Cut and paste this if the link is broken by yt; /watch?v=7va5Z6wqj6I
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 How are you going to tell me that kinect doesn't have trouble signing in dark skinned people I'm a dark skinned person and it won't sign me into the right profile and I only have 2 profile on their one fat one and one skinny one. And it signs me into my friends fat mii rip off.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - With all due respect Zern, Kinect has no more trouble signing in black people as it has with white people, that's a fact proven by numerous websites. If you had problems, it had nothing to do with your skin colour. And ANY device with such problems results in countless videos uploaded to YT showing the problem, such as iPhone4's signal issues. So where are the YT videos showing Kinect failing because of skin colour? There are none, but you can find these;
/watch?v=Cln-OZQCKkc
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Uh websites are often unreliable plus most are biased for M$ because they want M$ to pay for their which m$ has done before by anonymous donation. Also it has happened most black people don't want to show their face all over the internet I don't.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Youtube is full of black people including the video in my last post, so please don't go claiming black people are somehow more afraid to show their faces here on YT than others, because that's not true. You may claim MS pays websites if you like, but MS/Sony/Nintendo etc have NO control over what we upload onto YT (as seen by all the fanboy videos), and so the fact that 2 months after launch there are no videos showing Kinect failing to see black people proves that claim is false. :)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Ha part of a black communtity 2 million large and trust me. I know how black people act.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Seems you're making assumptions that I'm not black :)
So back on topic, there's no way that such a hyped product like Kinect would not have videos on Youtube from gamers demonstrating problems with it recognizing black people if it were true, especially from fanboys attacking Microsoft. Search YT for 'iPhone signal' and there are countless videos about it's problem (too many to count). Do the same for Kinect and no matter what key words we use, no demonstration videos can be found.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Uh I never implied if you were black or not. And I would like to note that a lot and I do mean a lot of black people are xbox 360 fanboys so why would a fanboy say something wrong about something they love. Demonstration videos I would make one if my camera was working properly it really only recording sound.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - And white 360 fanboys have no black friends, or black room mates, or black family members etc? :) No amount of Apple fanboyism stopped an avalanche of signal problem videos uploaded to YT within days of iPhone4's launch. Hence whichever way you look at it, with an estimated 6-7m Kinects in homes, it is impossible for there to be no videos demonstrating that problem if it were true, especially with all the MS hate out there. Sorry, but until there's proof shown, it remains a myth.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Well if it isn't true why didn't they use a black person in testing they used a light skinned mexican in place of the black person to hide something why would they.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Er what tests are you referring to? During development, Kinect was tested with people of all skin colours, since that's the only way to make sure it works for everyone. In the Gadget show (UK), they had a Kinect vs Move feature where the two guests were both black, and they signed in with no problems, just as the black guy in the video I posted had no problems. Until we see videos proving there's a problem, it remains a myth. Hence to quote from Jerry Maguire, "Show me the money!" ;-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Uh no they didn't also If it didn't have a recognition problem why would it sign me in when i tried to my white friends profile even though were nothing alike in height weight or size.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Of course they did, again what test with a mexican are you talking about? Or did you make that up? And the issue isn't about being signed up to the wrong account (which is not reported anywhere btw, so how comes you're the only one in the world?), it's about not being recognised. ALL webcam face recognition compares your face and scores it depending on how closely it matches a stored profile. If you don't score enough points, you fail, simple as that. So your claim is impossible.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@Zern227 - The simple fact is that face recognition is an established webcam application, and hence on Kinect it uses it's standard webcam, not Kinect's InfraRed camera. Hence many laptops now offer face recognition for login via their webcams. HP had a problem with darker skins in one of their models, but it was easily solved by adjusting the software. With PSEye, Sony will probably add that feature to the PS3 in future, and if so, expect the same race claims to appear, even if it's false.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@Zern227 THATS WRONG ON XBOX
sophannaven 1 year ago
@Zern227 and it iss bad?
loquendox21 1 year ago
@gravedigger1454 no really kinect is better im not a fanboy i have a ps3 and i know that kinect is better really i dont know why i bouy a ps3 -.-
loquendox21 1 year ago
Unless you're a developer, don't knock how long it takes to create something. They have been working on this tech for decades now. Anyone remember the Power Glove for Nintendo? There are two types of innovation, evolutionary and revolutionary. Controller development has been more of an evolutionary process, so it's no surprise that you see elements of past work in present technology. Where Kinect is superior is its ability to bring several developments together in a synergistic way.
anwaraisling 1 year ago
@PS3MakeBelive I will recognize black people just fine. And if you don't want to use the face recognition you don't even really need the lights on. There is a video out there by angryjoe that shows him navigating around the menus with no lights while wearing all black clothes. It also shows him playing Dance Central in all black with his face covered by a black hood.
I have both, so no fanboy ranting here. Both are fun.
andreo 1 year ago
2:53 i sure like wacking balls lol wtf
turkanator123 1 year ago
We get it you wan to have sex with the project natal.
ps3Guy102 1 year ago
We get it you ant to have sex with the natal.
ps3Guy102 1 year ago
RIght up until you realize that eye toy doesn't work at all!
halfpin 1 year ago
hmm i wonder who sony got the move idea from hmmmm
MrMustang210 1 year ago
@MrMustang210 Hmmm i wonder who nintendo got motion the motion control idea from in the first place? Oh thats right that really frikin old PS1 motion controller. Really dude? Pointing fingers at who stole what from who is pointless at this day an age. Sony probably stole that idea from some one back then too. Motion control hasn't been new for years now. Companies do what works, it doesn't matter who did it first. All that matters is who did it better. Move simply works better than the other 2.
CrypticSilhouett 1 year ago
@MrMustang210 Sony made prototypes of the Move before the Eyetoy...
TheUnPlayable 1 year ago
All I saw was a really crappy eyetoy and the way better kinect
TheDsihelp 1 year ago
only realy diffrence is that kinect can detect depth.
UchihaXsai2012 1 year ago
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manman4092 1 year ago
I hope this video was a joke lol
antsmifff 1 year ago
what is the name of the game @ 0.39 ?
penpcm 1 year ago
The ps2 eyetoy really worked the xbox sucks
123coolx 1 year ago
that video fails
ssparkour1 1 year ago
So what if the things have been seen? Where do you think PS3 got there idea's Wii, thats why nintendo are suing them....fools.
M0T0RH3AD18 1 year ago
@M0T0RH3AD18 haha no there not
xPARMENTERx 1 year ago
Except Kinect will fucking work.
Liamwitz 1 year ago
@Liamwitz WRONG. Kinect was filled with so much lag input and promises undelivered that this video only justifies everything stated as TRUTH
Edornob 1 year ago 14
@Edornob don't talk before you used it smart boy
jamchel24 1 year ago
@Edornob The so called input lag isn't really there and Kinect is pretty fucking fun.
selsuru 1 year ago
@Edornob kinect works like a charm ..atleast to me, so heh.
jingle2385monkey 1 year ago
@Edornob same here lol kinect works fine for me too no lag or anything its just the ps3 fanboys if one person says ooh it lagged or failed for me they cling to it and try to say its fail lol well im sorry i ventalate my xbox well and clean t regurarly and have never had the RRoD issue and i know how to use my kinect so therefore no issue there sorrry fannnnbooooy
trae902 4 months ago
what los campesinos song playing in the end?
pumpkinboy13 1 year ago
lol I SURE LIKE WAKINNG BALLS XD
lazerlight2010 1 year ago
This isn't fanboy rants this is pure fact!
hardkoregamer1981 1 year ago
Sony's motion controller design concept & motion controller technology is way different & far superior to nintendo's poorly designed motion controller concept & inferior motion controller technology.
hardkoregamer1981 1 year ago
Also the power glove for nes was not a motion controller it was a pressure sensitive when you griped the glove not motion sensitive.Also uforce for the nes was touch sensitive not motion sensitive.A company by the name datasoft inc. created the first motion sensitive joystick controller known as the Le stick which was design for the use of the atari 2600 & commodore 64 & release in 1981.
hardkoregamer1981 1 year ago
epic fail at 2:52 who doesint XD
martenzo000 1 year ago
but wahts happened with eye toy?!?! why i never saw it in the shops?!?
slash00johnson 1 year ago
half of these things are like comparing the Olympics to the special Olympics
one's actually semi cool and interesting to watch, the other is just plane retarded... literally
hawklacross 1 year ago
there both cool but I still like kinect better. cause it has depth perception, u don't need a microphone to talk to it, and u don't have to keep recharging and replacing batteries and controllers. also Iv'e noticed that most eye toy games are basically just a mirror.
theoriginalJASONXYZ 1 year ago
@theoriginalJASONXYZ ps move has depth perception 4built in microphones and one charge lasts ten hour. oh and one very important feature buttons. whhhaaaaat?
machstarfox 1 year ago
@machstarfox lol buttons! what are those?
theoriginalJASONXYZ 1 year ago
@theoriginalJASONXYZ
- PS Move has depth perception accurate to every centimetre!
- Has a built in microphone.
- No PS3 controller has batteries.
- That isn't even true.
- Kinect costs more.
- Kinect is proven to me more glitchy at this stage in development.
Pbjb989 1 year ago
@Pbjb989 I wasn't trying to bash anyone. just making observations, and giving my opinion. If I was still more of a gamer I would rather have move cause its way less glitchy like u said. but I'm less gamer and more of an entertainment guy now. so kinect makes more sens for me. I just like the idea of controller free navigation. I know that if I bought move it would just end up in my junk drawer in a few weeks, just like my wii motes.
theoriginalJASONXYZ 1 year ago
im a PS3 owner.. and ill buy the new xbox 360.. why? because of GEARS OF WAR and HALO... >_>
ProKbron 1 year ago
@ProKbron woooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo HALO
MakiD2010 1 year ago
I find it funny how Microsoft thought it would be a good idea to copy a failed concept from Sony.
GDhsfsvgful 1 year ago
@GDhsfsvgful so like as if sony didn't copy from wii
MakiD2010 1 year ago
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kevinzki21 1 year ago
She sure like wacking balls. doesnt she?
TheQreative 1 year ago 15
Ok first things first what the heck is the thing where the kid was controlling all the robots, the area where the girl was controlling the music, and the thing where the boy was putting on the robot suit.
NexusARC 1 year ago
Wow what is Eyedentify and is it a good game.
NexusARC 1 year ago
the thing about these similaritys is that it looks like kinect does it A LOT better rather than just looking at whatever is closest to the camera its your actual body cuz i played the eyetoy boxing just holding a broomstick up while i was sitting on the floor and theres no way you can get away with that on kinect
stratisfire 1 year ago
@stratisfire dude, this is the future not the past so technology has upgraded.
subata45 1 year ago
@subata45 YEAH THATS WHAT I WAS SAYING. you just pretty much said the same thing but shorter
stratisfire 1 year ago
I think we should all accept the fact that somehow, someway kinect might screw up or have some defects. Microsoft is not exactly known for having the most reliable products in terms of failure rates for consoles and pcs compared to other companies. I have a 360 and its the third one I had, the previous two suffered the red ring of death. So that hardcore xbox fans better not be surprised IF Kinect has flaws. Better hope it doesnt or nintendo and ps3 fans will be on your ass. HaHa >:D
Griever286 1 year ago
@Griever286 Uh it is already screwing up, and another thing the xbox slim' fail time... 1 to 2 months.
NexusARC 1 year ago
lol @ 2:53
"i sure like wacking balls"
xD dirty mind
footo9000 1 year ago 43
@footo9000
The best part is it was cut off, so it sounds like it was meant to be censored. xD
"I sure like wackin' bal-"
SonicRiderZG8 1 year ago
@footo9000 thts the same thing i was bout to say :P XD
ben10freak101 1 year ago
@footo9000 haha i get it
MakiD2010 1 year ago
@footo9000 lmao I had to rewind it to hear it again I lost it.. lol
DrachMajor 1 year ago
hahaha this video made me laugh XD dont ask. it may look like that kinect has some of the traits of eye toy but people have misunderstood it for thinking that it is another eye toy, unlike the eyetoy, kinect scans your whole body three dimensionally where the eyetoy interacts with only the picture that is being picked up. there are much much more things you can do with kinect rather than eye toy plus i remember cheating with the eye toy easily by putting my hand near the cam and waving it to win
louiscarr899 1 year ago
@louiscarr899 Oh realy that why the creator of eyetoy held a conference how eyetoy uses a depth sensor and and how it allow depths and the hand thing did work well a lot of thing on kinect are also avaible on the eyetoy
Zern227 1 year ago
@louiscarr899 But the ps3 Eye can scan in 3D especially with the move.
NexusARC 1 year ago
@NexusARC I DONT GIVE A SHIT! IM GUNNA CUM IN YOUR EYES! IM GOING TO BUY KINECT END OF! YOU CANNOT STOP MEHHH! *-*
louiscarr899 1 year ago
@louiscarr899 init fuck ps move
MakiD2010 1 year ago
You can do almost the same thing with PS EYE and Natal no matter how much you say the tech in Natal is better it still looks the same.
tokyozee 1 year ago
@tokyozee How is Natal better if it doesn't even work properly.
NexusARC 1 year ago
@NexusARC I never said Natal was better I said that if others think that Natal is better then why does it still look the same as the PS2 PS EYE
tokyozee 1 year ago
@tokyozee if ps move is better then why does it look like nintando wii
MakiD2010 1 year ago
@NexusARC thats just a prototype its gonna be better when it comes out dumb ass
MakiD2010 1 year ago
@MakiD2010
1 - Halo sucks.
2 - Sony did copy the wii, because it's fun, and they improved it to the point where it can be applied to completely different things.
3 - The wii is great, and also is better than kenict, it's funny because Microsoft copied a "failed" idea, and Sony copied a good one.
4 - The "prototype" is actually more advanced than what will ship. They cut costs by making the camera half the resolution, and removing the possessor from it.
GDhsfsvgful 1 year ago
@GDhsfsvgful Sony stated their concept back in 2004 with a playstation eye toy demo for the playstation 2 long before wii launched which by the way launched when playstation 3 launched which by the playstation 3 launched with a motion controller called the six axis wireless motion controller so what hell are you talking about it lmfao!
hardkoregamer1981 1 year ago
@MakiD2010 Ok we will see...
Randomvids18 1 year ago
Wow, You Sir: Edornob And MTMind2, Know your Shit.
Shamas571 1 year ago
lol omg kennect get's powned by the PS EYE for the ps2 lol!!
tokyozee 1 year ago
@tokyozee - Actually, it would only seem that way to those who don't understand technology. :-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 hahaha! Well to average consumer it looks like the PS EYE is as good as natal.
tokyozee 1 year ago
in what way this is copying it just that kinect doesnt have any controlers it is copying.movement without controlers doesnt belong to no one.they just made the thing to make xbox more interesting.And you trols always say "copy" "fake" get a life.
domcys1 1 year ago
@domcys1 Kinect is a ps eye/eyetoy copy because 1 they started kinect several years after eyetoy. 2. If they didn't copy they wouldn't state this was entirely new. 3. Your kind of trolling Xbot. 4. And to play games without a controller was a sony orignal they made it first, they had the Idea first, and M$ is known for coping and cheating people out of their money and M$ corrupted the BBB so they wouldn't get shut down as they rightfully should and if you don't beleive me look it up on youtube.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Regarding copying, EVERYONE does it and adds something, it's called progress. MS added motion sensing to their game controller 8 YEARS before Sixaxis, hence MS had that idea long before Sony and released it in 1998;
/watch?v=-Q36BTomIZk
Hence talk of rip-offs, stealing, copying etc, is nonsense. Technology is about progress, where for gaming, companies take current tech and improve it or apply it to new areas. Hence the Wii, PS Move, Kinect, 3DS etc, are all examples of this. :)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 IT uses a gyro lock control stick so no matter how much you move it the control stick inside will stay in place so by turning it the stick will rotate causing it to turn and if we were talking about that tech Le Stick for Atari 2600 would be the first motion control and the arcade was first with motion control.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Yes, there were examples before, hence I'm not claiming MS were first, just saying everyone copies because that's how technology progresses (hence Sixaxis is an improved FreeStyle Pro, Kinect is an improved EyeToy, PS Move is an improved Wiimote, the N64 controller improved on analog sticks used by Atari and PC etc). And yes, as far as I'm aware, Le Stick for the Atari 2600 (and Commodore 64 for those old enough to remember :-)) was the first motion controller for home gaming systems.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 I'm saying it using gyro lock which is a feature that allows a control stick to stay in place regardless of you moving the controller which is not motion gaming.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Sorry but you're talking nonsense, if a controller responds to your motion, then that IS motion control. I had such a controller, and you can see how it works in the advert. How it achieves motion control is irrelevent, there could be a little elf inside for all we care, but the point is, lean the controller and it acts the SAME as pushing an analog stick in that direction, where the more it leans, the greater the movement. How is that not motion control? Stop the denial please.
MTMind2 1 year ago
And whilst you at it, you may like to read this review from 1998;
joy-stick*net/reviews/gamepads/freestyl.htm
Quote: "The motion sensing capabilities are very well implemented. With other controllers using this feature there are only extremes of movement. With the Freestyle Pro the degree you move the controller is reflected in the movement you make. However, sticking out you tongue as you play has no effect."
So tell me, which part of "motion sensing" confuses you? :-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Its not motion control because you still use a control stick to use that function.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Are you talking about the same thing here? We are talking about Microsoft's Sidewinder FreeStyle Pro gamepad from 1998. Yes? You TILT the controller to the left and your character/plane/bike etc moves to the left, you TILT the controller to the right and your character moves right, tilt it forward and it moves forward, tilt it back and it moves back. TILTING the controller acts just like an analog stick, same with Sixaxis, which IS motion control! There's no control stick being used!
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 It uses a gyro lock control stick which mean if you tilt left the control stick will remain to stay up and make it to move to the left and that works in all directions and even turning the contoller.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - It doesn't matter what it uses or how it works internally, the fact remains that by tilting the controller, it moves your character on screen, hence it senses your motion, which is why it's called "motion sensing"! So again, stop the denial, Sixaxis uses a gyro and accelerometers for sensing motion, hence is an improvement.
You can watch gamers playing around with the Freestyle Pro here;
/watch?v=6ZCkX89aLT0
watch?v=Uj8wrsgYt4E
And you can still buy a Freestyle Pro from Amazon.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 that is still not it doesn't sense the motion the stick is hooked up with wires and by it staying where it is the wires get pulled thus activating the function and by the way how you saying that would basically be any controller would be a motion because it senses the movement.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - To be honest, you really don't know what you're talking about. There is NO STICK in the FreeStyle Pro gamepad, all it has is a D-pad and buttons, where the analog stick function is performed by tilting the gamepad!! Imo, you have looked up info on the net and got it mixed up. Also, the Freestyle Pro gamepad doesn't have a gyro, it uses a 2-axis iMEMS sensor (the ADXL202) which detects tilt. The Wiimote and Sixaxis use more advanced 3-axis sensors, and Sixaxis also has a gyro.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Their is a stick in the fucking inside I have one and I have because I don't want peopel to tell you don't even have one. Have even taken it apart come tell me when you have.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - LOL! More lies. We've been discussing this gamepad for a whole day and NOW you suddenly claim to have one? :-D. Who do you think you're kidding? Oh yes, you're the same person who claims to have worked for Sony, to have a cousin & friend who works for Nintendo, to have insider knowledge, you claim you can have my house blown up and me beheaded and that you've done it before, and what was the other lie now... oh yes, you're older than 14 yet removed your age of 14 from your profile :-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 I remove the age from the account because I mostly am on it I didn't make the account and the account is shared. I went and got one the time before I went to sleep that one comment.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Ok, I'm not going to push you any further on the age issue, I only did so because of your claim that you worked for Sony at sometime. But I have to say Zern, despite your curses and vicious threats towards me at times, I have actually enjoyed our discussions here, but I do feel you've now produced one lie too many, and hence there really isn't any point in us continuing this debate.
Just the same, I wish you all the best and perhaps we'll meet up in another topic at sometime. Bye. :)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 I honestly don't care anymore so: sayonara baka!!!
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Well after telling so many lies and getting so many facts wrong, I didn't expect you to care, but if you are going to lie, learn how to do it properly. :-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Like I said I don't care what you say I'm not going to even bother to read your comment but sayonara Baka
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Except it's rather ironic that you end your post "sayonara baka" which I believe is japanese for goodbye stupid, and yet very few individuals in this topic have matched the level of stupidity and ignorance that you have shown here. Hence I do find your comment rather amusing :-) (You clam you're not 14 years old,and yet you continue to act as if you ARE 14 years old. Interesting).
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 I was trying to say idiot but in japanes it can be idiot or stupid and Mada Mada Daze.
Zern227 1 year ago
Kudo Tsunoda? does he thinks he is Japanese?
MonsteriuM 1 year ago
what people spend money on -)
IOjhjdhf 1 year ago
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controller less gaming on it's own is a guaranteed fail because of limited functionality without a physical controller which anybody with any shred of intelligence can identify.
hardkoregamer1981 1 year ago
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hardkoregamer1981 1 year ago
F-F-FAIL wow and this is $150? No thanks
XRvd15X 1 year ago
00:53 "I sure like wacking balls!"
Pipoca19 1 year ago
2:53 LMAO
ihatewebkinz1234 1 year ago
Thumbs up is you like to see the Asian girl wacking balls.
hacker4637 1 year ago
but the PS3s "move" looks just like the wii......but with a giant glowing ball on the end
Kzius3 1 year ago
@Kzius3 actually them wii stole motion controll from sony and rushed through it so it would look like sony stole it from them. I know this because this guy go an interview to meet one of the eyetoy developers and he was using a stick like controller will a ball on top in 2003.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - That's not how it happened. Sony's Richard Marks used STATIC objects like sticks and balls only to interact with the EyeToy (where some demos can be seen on YT). Impressive stuff, but that's as far as it went, they never had a powered wand with buttons and sensors, which is a BIG difference. Once Nintendo announced the Wii, Sony looked at the Wiimote and adapted their tech to offer something similar, using what they learned from the EyeToy, and hence we now have the PS Move.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Well are fucking retarded you've watched one video of the fucking tests big whoppdy fucking doo. I fucking worked for sony at one point I kniw they made a fucking a test controller because that test was a suscess and the fuck they didn't use sensors the fucking eyetoy uses sensord you retatd. Plus I know one of nintendo employees work at sony at before quitting. Now guess how Nintendo could of figured out about motion controllers. You fucking Twit.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - The fact that you're acting like that is enough to show you didn't work at Sony, much less have access to their technology in development, so quit the lies kid (your profile says you're FOURTEEN!). Sony did not have a test controller like the Wiimote before Nintendo, FACT, especially since Sony would have said so if that was the case. ALL they've ever shown (including their PATENTS) were static objects with EyeToy, no powered wand prior to Nintendo's Wii announcement, but nice try ;-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Have you even heard of a persona you fucking twit I would be able to learn Japanese if I'm a kid I use on of my favorite creations as my persona. You haven't learned a god damn thing unless you work there at one point you won't know shit you twit unlike fucking nintendo sony keeps their developements secret until the system is ready and you obviously don't know shit if you never actually worked theri. I really don't like using my real identity because people use it against me.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Nice try, how many more lies will you be adding? Perhaps you worked for Microsoft and Nintendo too at some point. :-) Your pointless cursing proves you're immature and therefore incapable of an adult discussion, and your lies only serves to give people something to laugh at (sorry, but it's true). You claim Sony had a powered wand with motion sensors before Nintendo, great, then prove it. As the saying goes, put up or shut up. :-)
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 No I would never work at those places. My 7th cousin 8th friend work for nintendo who do you think told sakurai the idea to add tripping in SSBB. Personally I hate fanboy and wish they all die I even don't honestly don't care anymore I don't like dealing with fanboy who think they can figure out anything just with a the internet. Go get a life visit Sony and learn stuff by actually going fucking their insteand of staying in your house no life so personally your nothing but a fly.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - More insults I see, so again childish behaviour from you, hence you're definitely 14 (and if you're older pretending to be 14, then I think that would be rather disturbing given all the talk of paedophiles online doing exactly that!).
So again, provide the proof. Anyone can claim anything, but unless you can prove it, it means nothing. Hence to repeat my earlier point, Sony did not have a powered wand before Nintendo, those are the facts unless you prove otherwise.
I'm waiting.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Am older than 14 but honestly I'll put anything when making an online account because I honestly don't care and you can't even spell that not how you spell petaviles well I'll do what you say when you follow your own advice so I can become phlisphofical if i have to. And anyway if I didn't want to you to comment again I can just send someone to blow up your house because I do have that power or would you rather have your head cut off all thing I've done before that I can do again.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Again you prove you're only 14. Enter 'paedophiles' in google and you will see it's spelt CORRECTLY. Now enter your spelling of 'petaviles' and see what you find. Hmmm. Same with phlisphofical, I think you'll find it's spelt 'philosophical', so you're in no position to correct the spelling of anyone. As for your threats, lol, what childish immature and pathetic behaviour, I'm starting to believe you're much younger than 14.
So I ask again, where's your proof? I'm still waiting.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 I actually only had a 3 hrs of sleep now really can a 14 yr old function with only 3 hrs of sleep. Like i said give me yours and I'll give your mines. Don't tell someone one to do something if your not willing to do it yourself. Oh you say my threat s are worht less okay whatever. Your probably a stupid american, you guys do know that 9/11 wasn't caused by terrorist you american do nothing but blame people you don't like as of you blaming sony stealing nintendo ideas.
Zern227 1 year ago
@MTMind2 you are fucking awesome, i'll subscribe you
xypsilonx 1 year ago
@MTMind2 your an american so I really can't listen to anything you say all I could know you just hate sony and start making stuff up.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Nice attempt at trying to get me to tell you which country I'm from :-), and for your information, I'm a multi-console & PC gamer, hence I own both a PS3 and a 360 (just like I did last gen with my PS2 and XBox), so do keep convincing yourself that I *must* hate Sony just because I said you're wrong. If you can provide proof of your claim, then you'll have something, but without proof your claim is nothing but empty words.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 - My proof? What are you talking about? If you are as clued up as you pretend to be, you would have seen many demos from Richard Marks using balls, sticks and other objects to interact with the EyeToy, many of them here on YT, hence the proof is here! However YOU claim that Sony had a powered wand like the Wiimote in development before Nintendo announced the Wii, therefore it's for you to provide proof of that. Also, I didn't say Sony STOLE Nintendo's ideas, this is not about stealing!
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 Yet again your avoiding what I'm asking. Like I said don't ask someone to do something if your not willing to do it yourself. So I tell you how I know when you tell me how you know. Is that hard or are you just mental. And I can tell your american because of the time your commenting it's basically written all over your face. It's a figure of speech so don't say that's stupid. I have all console ever made what do you have a xbox,xbox 360, ps2 ,and ps3.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - Actually, it's you doing the avoiding. There's nothing for me to prove. If I claimed to be a millionaire, then it's for ME to prove it, not for everyone else to prove I'm not. Just the same, here's Richard Marks using sticks & balls to interact with the EyeToy;
watch?v=mheOtyWNjV0
/watch?v=ouz7ym7Ojqs
Like I said in my first post, impressive (which you conveniently ignored!).
So, where's your proof of Sony developing a wand with motion sensors like the Wiimote before Nintendo.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 so you got your proof from youtube I'm not impressed anyone could of made that up if that's all you got then I'm done with you.There is no more need for me to waste my time talking to you.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Zern227 - How childish. That was Richard Marks, the CREATOR of the EyeToy, and those videos have been around for years and are known to those who follow gaming technology closely. The fact that I know they're real (from 2004) and you don't proves that I know more about Sony's tech than you, and for someone who claims to have worked for Sony and to have inside knowledge, you should be ashamed of your ignorance of Sony's Richard Marks and his superb work developing EyeToy/PSEye and now PS Move.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@MTMind2 - I'm done with you for now. How you can't see that those demos from Richard Marks in 2004 were cutting edge at the time is quite surprising. How you can't see that those demos were the beginning of what was to become the PS Move once the idea of a powered wand was added is also surprising. How you can think they are fake is even worse, and proves you know nothing more about Sony's technology than the average 14 year old online. Sorry, but you're not the Sony fan you think you are.
MTMind2 1 year ago
@Zern227 could you shut the fuck up i never seen an immature under-aged guy who wanna be an attention whore .
dude i have ps3 ps2 xbox psp gc dsi gc gba . i don't have xbox cause ps3 is enough for me and it doesn't mean i hate microsoft.plus that i play halo on my laptop
let me tell you this: Soy was studying on motion sensors before the wii.
Remember the power glove from nes?
guess what nintendo use the same technology because wiimote and power glove works with ir and they both have sensor bar
xypsilonx 1 year ago
@xypsilonx And plus that sony doesn't need to make sensor bar :/
btw
Here have a penny so you can have a life , you fucking retard that you have sex with justin beiber
xypsilonx 1 year ago
@xypsilonx What the fuck are you talking about I still play it I don't even put up the sensors and it still works that because it a series of strings that activate the buttons on the controller.
Zern227 1 year ago
@Kzius3 you also have to look at application with the design.. Because you can take points off from design but the benefits given from that design will out ways the flaws..
PhantasyGod 1 year ago
OMG she is so slapnutz crazy!
FonzyLuvalot 1 year ago
2:53 LOL i sure like whacking balls
xXWaleedXx123 1 year ago
okay all of these games and features are completely different. the are just slightly similar. how can you compare that crappy boxing game to the kung fu game. and actually playing soccer to bouncing balls off your head. you sir do not know what you are talking about.
SchmancyMan 1 year ago
Hey Microsoft guess what they already made this! It is called Planet Earth and Mankind. We want games not a fucking virtual person and World.
xXGhilliedxSamuraiXx 1 year ago
at 1:40
can you do that?
SSJvegito501 1 year ago
LOL FUCK U BITCHES IM NOT LEAVING I NOW HAVE 2 PAGES OF COMMENTS ALL ABOUT ME BABY OH YEAH BRING IT ON TROLLS lol
TheTopHatGamer 1 year ago
Lol this is how desperate 360 fanboys are.. they are comparing tec that came this year to the tec that came years ago on PS2. lol why dont u compare it to Playstation move.. i guess u will pwn your own video if u make that.. lol FAG.
PhantasyGod 1 year ago
@PhantasyGod first hit the reply button to troll me correctly and second what is the vid about?? oh yeah comparing NATAL to eyetoy wich is why i compared those 2...
You see once you past 3rd grade they teach you things called "context clues" and you will understand how my comment was relative, im sorry was that word too big??
TheTopHatGamer 1 year ago
@TheTopHatGamer we don't need you filling the comment space with your bitching
Thejeter5770 1 year ago