Although these two men agree on one or two issues I would never associate the two, not in my wildest dreams. Hitler and I may agree on flushing the stank bank after you make a deposit, that doesn't mean I'd invite him over for punch, or draw some wild connection out of thin air trying to associate a villain with a hero.
Love zappa's music but I must say I agree more with Ron Paul's view on approaching fascism than Zappas'. I think that franks views towards America and fascism are a little pedantic, and slightly subjective. He was right about the corporations and the political side but nobody is putting a gun to your head to learn about Jesus. Believe whatever you want to believe, thats what makes America so great and is one of the reasons why every other country hates us.
Some Republican propaganda zombie tried to convince me that Zappa would have voted for Paul. That is so fucking false that I want to puke. For the record, and on many of his records; Frank Zappa HATED Republicans. He had lots of fun with Ronnie Raygun and the failed Star Wars program. Yes, he took on Democrats, too. Only when talking about Govt. in a general way. He hated Republicans, spent a lot of time getting fans to register to vote at concerts before Bono made it cool. Paul pushers=funny.
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"Once again you're implying that the government acted without the will of the people. The PEOPLE wanted non-discrimination laws."
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If 95% of "the people" wanted the other 5% killed, would you support that as "the will of the people", or would Constitutional rights suddenly matter then? I'm guessing the latter.
No the PEOPLE are the pnly hope for America. A politician will forever remain a politician. The scumbags behind American fascism will, sooner or later, convince/bribe/blackmail Ron Paul into either helping them or pretending they are hurting nobody. If they can't succeed that way, they'll either assassinate him or, and I quote Stalin on this: "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything"
Frank hated Republicans. Frank was pretty clear about that one. Star Wars (won't work) was is one of my favorite anti-Republican songs. Frank wrote a lot about the nastiness of Govt. in general terms; Brown Shoes Don't Make It, when Nixon was President. He would have had a field day with WMD and Iraq. Main quote proving Zappa would NOT vote Paul: "When God created Republicans, he gave up on everything else."Appearance on Thicke of the Night (28 April 1984). Sorry Paul supporters, nice try.
I must corrected, Mr Zappa was the one calling himself a conservative. You can hear it for yourself in the Cnn crossfire episode with Zappa on youtube.
Captain, would you really call Paul a republican? He, and most others call him a libertarian. He didnt support star wars, neither did he support the wars making gas expensive in the states. He also referred to himself as a conservative. You ought to read Mr. Zappa book atleast before calling me a clown
I think Frank would have thought the same thing as me; "Why run with the same party that brought us Reagan (failed supply side economics has destroyed economy and nationalism), Bush (cocaine for arms), idiot son, Nixon, Cheney, Rumsfeld, WMD, David Duke, KKK and Aryan support, 770 club right wing christian support, Iraq war to make contractors rich, fights liberty at every turn, the patriot act, etc". Zappa hated Republicans. Anyone that tries to tell you different is a Paul propaganda nut.
I think Mr Zappa and Mr. paul agrees on several key points: 1. They both want federal government out of education(mr. Zappa refused to pay his kids' school fees after they turned fifteen). Secondly, they both did and do not support "world police" types of national defence. Third, they both view themselves as conservative and constitutionalists(what they put in that may be a point of discussion). Fouth, they both wanted a government that served the citizens, and did what the constitution stated
It would be grossly unfair to compare Zappa and Ron Paul, although they might overlap on a few issues, as most people would likewise come into agreement on some things with people in another camp- but anyone who knows Zappa well, already, as shown in the comments, knows this. If one looks at Franks positions on social issues, you realize that he was opposed to many Ron Paul positions.
All one needs to do is to look at the record of Frank's outspoken opinions. There is no need to guess, nor put words in his mouth. He said much on the record, as well as on his records.
@neilslade "Star Wars won't work; the gas still gets through, it will get all over you, Star Wars won't work." Yeah, and these clowns try to say that Zappa would support Paul, a Republican. Lots of anti-Republican Zappa quotes. These Paul propagandists go too far back in history and forget the last 230 years of greed on both sides. Yeah, he would probably NOT be running on the Rep or Dem side. Frank Zappa for President 2012! Because a corpse of a "genius" is better than the choices we have!
Corporations started to change with Nixon and came into their full slower under Reagan. Benito Mussolini, the father of fascism, said that it should more properly be called corporatism where government exists for the sake of large corporatism. Before then, corporations should have been carefully watched but after Reagan the became the enemy of American democracy. Ike warned us and we should have listened.
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Zappa would have never agreed with Ron Paul because Ron Paul is a republican. Also, don't forget Zappa was an entertainer, that is how he made a living. Never vote for a comedian to be come a congressman like Al Franken. Who the hell voted for that guy, oh, probably Obama voters.
@tipuppy2011 him being republican means nothing, if they have the same views on something obviously they would agree, zappa wasnt so close minded to judge someone based on their political affiliation, there are democrats who are more right wing than ron paul, ron paul is probably became republican because he knew he could accomplish more, the USA is a republic not a democracy, and its the majority of the people in the republican party that give it a bad name and make decisions that
@fishboy1111111 hurt the united states and its people but benefit big business and the politicians, the founding fathers were republicans, the party itself is not inherently bad and ron paul probably supports what the party is supposed to be, not what it is has been twisted into by greedy bankers and oil barons, ron paul sounds like he wants to put the party and the USA back on track and back to what it was before the military industrial complex and the federal reserve took over
@fishboy1111111 Yes, I agree with you. Very well said. However, attacking corporations isn't the answer. There is nothing wrong with corporations. Corporations create careers. Government creates minimum wage.
YEAH!! Where is the tea party for Ron Paul??? You got all these talking heads on Wall Street owned News clamming to be tea partiers. They high jacked the movement with there money. Those people on fox news are a disgrace, they aren't tea party or they would be talking about Ron Paul. VOTE; Ron Paul 2012
Anybody who thinks that Frank Zappa and Ron Paul are even remotely alike heard one word out of the two conversations--"fascism." The comparison ends there. Zappa was an incredibly brilliant and radical artist who thought like an artist. Ron Paul is a politician seeking attention and power--and they do NOT think like artists, even if sometimes they use some of the same words. DUH!
@missabby2002 seeking attention and power? are you kidding, one of his main goals is to get rid of the federal reserve, if you try to get rid of the federal reserve or even speak about ending the fed in public the last thing your likely to get is attention and power, the last person who even mentioned getting rid of the federal reserve was kennedy and look where it got him, he's taking a big chance taking on the fed, he's putting his career and personal life at risk
@fishboy1111111 he's the only one with balls enough to speak his mind and actually have a plan that will put the USA back on the right track, the USA is pretty well the federal reserves bitch while it exists, who do you think you owe the deficit too? United states money is not even real money, they are bank notes, loaned to the US by the federal reserve at i believe it is 14% interest on every dollar, and they print new bills carte blanch, devaluing all the money in circulation
@fishboy1111111 and ruining interest rates, and creating housing crashes and depressions whenever they like, until someone like ron paul gets elected and ends the federal reserve and dismantles the military industrial complex the US will continue its economic nose dive and you will continue to have your civil liberties taken away, most people dont realize it but the US is governed under military law, it is a military government, and when the economy collapses and the governement
@fishboy1111111 declares martial law and civil war erupts you'll be praying for a ron paul, just take a look at all the bills being passed lately, they are preparing for just such an event.
@fishboy1111111 So you think Kennedy didn't get attention? Didn't seek it? LOL! EVERY politician seeks power and attention and NEEDS power and attention to make anything happen. Yes, of course there are risks involved. But that's an entirely different subject, and it has about as much to do with Frank Zappa as any other single word in the dictionary. Ron Paul is the same old, same old, with a twist. Zappa was an original.
I see the left as extremely fascist nowadays, far surpassing whatever paranoia we had about the right. Fascist forbid and suppress opposition, they support violence as long as it's against the opposition. Back when Zappa said that, I probably thought he was right, but now that I've matured, and become more clearheaded, I think back to Reagan who was really very gentle and tolerant of all dissenting views. Compare that to the vile vermin on the left we see today. There actually is no comparison.
@jagfug not true at all, reagan was just as bad as alot of todays politicians, back then people just didnt hear about it and were fooled by his demeanor, he was just a puppet and was responsible for oking all kinds of illegal activities in other countries, illegaly arming rebels, overthrowing leaders, letting the cia import and sell drugs in the US to its own people, it was no different back then, the same people were pulling his strings as are pulling the strings of todays politicians
@fishboy1111111 That has nothing to do with what I said. I was talking about fascism, and being tolerant of opposing views. - Some of what you're referring to did happen, but it was in the name of democracy. Look at what Obama's done so far with the "Arab Spring" bullshit story. Libya was better off with Ghadaffi! Now they have the Muslim brotherhood, and they took a step back to the 6th century with sharia law. Those people are more screwed than ever! Obama's destroying our country. Communist!
Let me get this straight; won't a Ron Paul presidency produce the biggest corporate society we've ever seen? I mean he wants no control on corporations at all. The fact that he wants to end the military dominance is a good thing, but at the cost of making corporate rule law is really not worth it. Comparing him to Frank Zappa, a progressive, is laughable, and a fraud. Read Glenn Greenwald on Paul to understand his kind of liberty
Zappa never supported Reagan or any Republican. He probably would agree with Ron Paul on personal liberties and opposition to the Patriot Act. But not on less government regulation of big business. Large corporations that have no loyalty to any country are a huge problem and Ron Paul's flaw is that by advocating deregulation of them, he would let them run free. Great.
@PoetryHound The reason he supports deregulation is b/c it doesnt work. Look at all the failures of regulation. Billions of dollars wasted on govt jobs that were supposed to do the oversight and they failed, not a little but alot. Everything the govt has stepped into cost has gone up and quality has gone down. Education, medical care, housing and even food and drug all failures. A free market can correct it (in theory) but we havent really tried it in the last 70 yrs.
@ArtemesUSN Yes, let's stop regulating pollutants in water. Let's allow unlimited air pollution. Child labor laws? Get rid of 'em! Anti-discrimination statutes? Gone! Food safety inspections? Gone! Coastal zone protections? Forget it! Consumer protection regulations? You're on your own! Workplace safety rules? A thing of the past! Medical malpractice? Too bad for you!
Yes, I'm sure multinational corporations will take care of all those things out of the goodness of their hearts.
@PoetryHound umm no where does he say he wants to get rid of EPA or USDA. He is talkin about business (owner) being able to run his business as he/she wants. Want to hire only Africans, go for it, want to hire whites only, go for. However be prepared for community backlash. Workplace or OSHA, he isnt disbanding, so what part of the "big business" regualtion is he advocating de-regulating that you disagree with. None of what you stated is true...none.
@ArtemesUSN He doesn't want to get rid of EPA or USDA, he just wants to get rid of the regulations they have on business. Of course he's never specific about which regulations on business he wants to get rid of. Just like a politician.
As for getting rid of non-discrimination laws, well, let's put it this way. It's obvious you're white.
It seems like Ron Paul is the only candidate who has supporters who never disagree with anything he says. Kind of like a cult.
@PoetryHound Never assume (think you know the saying) Im Cherokee AS (Adopted Shawnee) so no im not white. Non-discrimation laws are against civil liberties, they are telling individual owners who they can hire, who they can serve etc. Good intentions but bad results. There is so much litigation (some real some not), why not let the community fix that? If i heard of a restruant that wouldnt serve (pick a race/ethnic grp) then I would never go there. Seems simple to me.
@ArtemesUSN Discrimination is much more insidious than that. There's discrimination in hiring, in housing, in all sorts of social and economic activities. Too much to make it a boycott or demonstration feasible each and every time. And once again, the government didn't simply decide to impose non-discrimination laws on businesses. Citizens demanded it. Who's voice is more important - businesses or the people?
@PoetryHound I agree that racism exists, no law ever written can stop that. Stupid will be stupid. Even the so called hring laws dont work. They just hire (token) ethnic groups. Want to really effect change imo it has to be done at the community level. For instance if I own a business and it so happens to have all Indians and Africans working there, does the govt have the right to come in and tell me I have to hire some whites? Even tho I had no really qualified applicants. There is the problem
@ArtemesUSN I think you're making up a silly example. The main problem hasn't been discrimination against whites. You're right that compliance with non-discrimination laws started out with tokenism. But over time, racial diversity has become much more acceptable. But it wasn't always that way. And attitudes wouldn't have changed all by themselves. Once again you're implying that the government acted without the will of the people. The PEOPLE wanted non-discrimination laws.
@PoetryHound Non-discrimation laws are fine, but there can really be no regulation of it. Unless the HR specifically says, im not hiring you b/c your black, how can they prove discrimination? I ran 2 business and I hired who I wanted, just so happens that most were Indian or African, not 1 white. Technically the govt could investigate me b/c I have no whites. How is that legal?
@ArtemesUSN Regulations are used to enforce laws. So you're essentially saying the laws are fine but enforcing them is not. Your example is not a good example because it's atypical. There are ways of determining discrimination without someone admitting it. Housing discrimination gets uncovered by using fake black and white home-buyers. The black ones aren't told about available homes in predominantly white neighborhoods. But yes, there could be some cases that are unprovable.
@PoetryHound I would disagree if he came out and said he is disbanding the EPA (has actually stated they are needed), USDA, as for the rest ill have to wait and see. Im not for Ron Paul either, im actually for none of them. I more then likely will not vote as there is no one worthy of it. I disagree with his economic policy (return of the gold standard) and the sound money theory. He says we need it but ive seen nothing from him on how to achieve it.
@ArtemesUSN Maybe he has said EPA is needed. I haven't seen that. But he clearly says there should be less regulation of business, so he needs to be specific and say which regulations he'd get rid of - environmental? Food safety? Nuclear safety? Fire safety? Which ones?
@PoetryHound Correct its why I said ill have to wait and see. I do know he said the EPA was needed but not really clear on what he wants to de-regulate. Just have to see, he is the only canidate id even consider at this point and it seems every other canidate cant wait to try and start a war with Iran. War must end, the govt is using our troops to get their friends rich. They started hiring civs to do some of the jobs the military use to do, and they make 4 times what we do, imagine that.
@ArtemesUSN I agree with Ron Paul about ending foreign military interventionism. And he looks like the only Republican candidate that would even think about cutting the Defense Dept. budget.
@ArtemesUSN There are some things where I agree with Ron Paul - less foreign military adventurism, less government intrusion in individuals' lives, repeal of the Patriot Act. But I don't agree with him on reducing regulations on big business. Those laws and regulations were put in place because citizens pushed and clamored for them, not because some anonymous bureaucrats wanted to increase the size of government. That's what anti-gov't folks always forget.
@PoetryHound ie any shop owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone (even a group) IE a racist shop owner. Now if a shop owner is stupid nuff to do this, its on the people to fix it. Boycott the idiots stoe, protest on the sidewalk, post signs that he is a racist owner, blogg about it, email, youtube it, let the people fix it not the govt. Same goes for big business, say (insert any brand here) does something like child labor, boycott, blogg, protest make signs etc
@ArtemesUSN Sure, the people have plenty of time to go around protesting everything. If a company is pouring invisible nitrogen oxides and mercury out of its smokestakes causing an increasing incidence of cancer and lost pregnancies, the people (not the government) will go out and do the epidemiological studies. The people will be experts and will buy the equipment and quit their jobs to do the studies. Sure bet.
frank was exactly right about the reagan administration and what is going to happen. frank makes chomsky and his right wing minions look like complete idiots. its beautiful to watch.
lol and in 2011 we conveniently having the catholic church joining hands with the obama administration in obamacare, an already failing monstrosity meant for taking in even more revenue in and give back little as they of course can and will use those funds for more 4 million dollar vacations, kobe steak and champagne every night first.
@PissObamachrist the federal reserve and your leaders collapsed the economy not barney frank, the whole reserve the banks and the US economy are one big ponzi scheme, and the patriot act, that was a page taken right out of hitlers play book, he even coined the phrase homeland security and was pals with bush sr's father
Commie fucking scum pigs. Commies are Fascists and racist KKK Nazis and Obama-Jebus666 is the theocracy. Ron Paul sucks dick and so does Zappa. They're both dead, right?
Hahaha, fuckyou grandpa Ron Paul Joe Stalin Obama II.
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It is disingenuous to use Zappa, Zinn and Chompsky as if the support Ron paul in a political ad. None of them would agree w/ Paul's anti-choice stand nor many others. This is not about people with similar stands, this is an ad that implies three great minds agree with a racist, shrill shill.
@raymondguy i love how everybody seems to know exactly how frank would think and how he would act, and using his wifes first name and assuming you know how she would think and act as well, how bout you just speak the truth, you dont agree with the video, thats fine, but dont presume to make assumptions and speak for other people
@fishboy1111111 FZ is taken out of context and appears to support RP. Read up on Zappa, listen to his songs. Or as I did, play with original MoI members. This is a con and certainlly, 100% FZ did not approve this bogus 'endorsement.'
A vote for Dr. Paul is a vote for yourself. He wants to limit gov intrusiveness in our lives & allow US to make our own choices. Stop politicians and the elites from thinking that they are so smart that they know how to run our lives better than we do. He is one of the few politicians that will make difficult decisions, he will balance the budget by his 2nd year, while other politicians plan to balance the budget after their term
A little ironic, don't you think, considering his obnoxious anti-choice stance on abortion? Also, he thinks Darwinian evolution does not occur. He is a fool.
Everybody keeps flapping their retarded jaws in this video, except Frank, who is trying to drop knowledge bombs. I agree with him 100%. America is going to die soon.
I bet this fascist Nazi Communist THEOCRAT pigfucker is burning in Hell right now.
I bet if he was still alive he'd have vote for Obama-Jebus 666.
Ron Paul is a Nazi Muslim Fascist Communist prick too. Just like Obama and the rest of the politicians in all parties. They're all theocrats and they're all leftists. They have a theology.
Athiest ideology would be communism! And communism is Naziism! Because they support the killing of fredom of religion! You can always challenge the moral majority! But dont try to kill it!
Don't forget the most famous system of Fascism is National Socialism (NAZI) , full name, National Socialist Worker's Party. Look up the Bellamy salute.
Frank was prescient. This country has had a very inglorious history, but the Reagan years are a marker for the beginning of the end of the middle class and the rise of naked corporatism.
@w9j15g He even saw the "theocracy" that we were headed for. The religious right holds a huge influence in America, even though the constitution prohibits it. You can't hear a candidate speak right now without bringing up their religion and moral compass. If you ask me, it's sickening.
@burnrider2001 Politicians, aside from a small few like Paul, will say whatever they think will get them elected as the servants and salesmen for a corporate plutocracy. Blame the dimwits who eat up that junk.
@w9j15g Sadly, that is the truth. The spinmeisters can talk about 50% of the populace into voting against their own self-interest. Sad, but true. And, when the ultimate aim is to focus all power and monetary policy towards the top 2% of the population you have a recipe for continuation of this status quo. The Citizens United and the Supreme Court being packed spell the downfall for progressive and populist interests. Where can we go to escape this truism?
Zappa better than his interviewers [they couldn't outsmart him], Ron Paul honest interview shown w/Meet the Press Tim Russert, Zinn knows his history.
Those stupid old bastards need to listen close, Zappa was droppin knowledge and they call him an anarchist....wtf i cant believe we are so close to fascism and over half the country doesnt give a SHIT!!fml
There he goes again speaking the truth. That does it, he is so radical I can't vote for him. Instead I am going to vote for a meathead. That way I have a better chance of being on a winning team! Then I can complain in a few years that nothing has gotten better, and I am getting financially raped!
@lizardfirefighter110 I agree. I once voted for Ross Perot and was told that I'd thrown my vote away. People are brainwashed into believing that a third party candidate does not deserve serious consideration. I'm seeing less & less difference between the 2 major parties. And I'm afraid that the ship is being steered on a course that can not/ will not be changed. So...Think outside the box. Give Paul a chance. No better time then right now!
@Pazrayna Did not express myself well, The perception is that he's not mainstream.Therefore, not appealling to the Republican mainstream. I was jumping ahead in anticipation of him running for pres. as a 3rd party candidate. And then, in anticipation of that,that... The perception of a 3rd party candidate is one where the candidate is expressing ideas that are not mainstream concerns of either major party. I like him. And I will vote for him. No matter what ticket he's on.
@zep2zap your totally right, there is not very much difference between both parties, ron paul is more left wing than a lot of democrats and vice versa, and when you get up to the top tiers of government there is no difference between parties, the same agendas will happen under a democratic president or a republican, only exception lately was kennedy he tried to be independent, he knew the federal reserve had to go,and the cia needed to be reevaluated and overhauled and it got him killed
@zep2zap I voted for Perot, too. That pissed me off when my vote went to the Republicans. I didn't vote Republican for a reason, so they just stole my vote. Like in 2000 when thousands of blacks were falsely classified felons so they were turned away from voting. Bush Jr. owes Abramoff and friends BIG time. He got his POTUS status AND his phony war in Iraq; security duty for Oil/Independent Corps. Zappa would have had a lot of material come out of this election season. Hated Reagan
And frankly, the people running the Christian money machine, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, they are not religious. They are doing it for the money and you fucking idiots are falling for it!
Actually the two of them have nothing to do with each other. Ron Paul mentioned nothing about theocracy, and we're not becoming a theocracy. Zappa was a paranoid idiot.
@Edgehead10075 Oh, he didn't say theocracy? Nice TRY, but that wasn't the subject, the subject was FASCISM, and if you think the church isn't trying to control us then, you better read the news. Burning Korans without even knowing how to spell the word, protesting at gay soldier funerals, and shooting abortion doctors is how these good church people are expressing their feelings. Sounds like attempting to control to me.
@Edgehead10075 Then explain why a U.S. candidate has to say he is a Christian/Jew to get elected. And also explain why you think Christians/Jews aren't in control because of that. And now explain why anyone who tells us the founding fathers (There were only seven, you can't call any early citizens founding fathers, like Michelle Bachmann does.) were Christians when they were actually Deists. They are so desperate to be in control that they lie, which is against their commandments.
@thomarnow Yep everyone is blinded by their own self-interest,their own cause. Two Republicans that have said the same thing: Eisenhower and Ron Paul. Eisenhower's prediction's became true.
@Edgehead10075 Frank Zappa cut over 80 albums~how many have you released? You keep calling him an idiot but WHERE ARE YOUR FOLLOWERS? He is adored world wide~WORLD FAMOUS FRANK ZAPPA!! Get a life dude--your still bitching at people on this video day after day ~ Give it a rest!!! Frank was one of the most polite rockstars I have ever met.....and I've met the best! Even Jimmy Page would have loved to have met him--told me so himself!
So being a "musical genius" makes one a genius about everything else? So does that mean Zappa could have been a nuclear physicist as well? Look, plenty of great musicians have said incredibly stupid things about politics, and Zappa was no exception. Maybe he was a "nice guy," but he was obviously paranoid about religion. We're not a theocracy, and we're not becoming one. Ten years ago, no state recognized gay marriage. Now six states and the District of Columbia do.
@Edgehead10075 Actually we are under oligarchy right now headed to you know where ....
Paranoid about religion? He knows that organized religion is a sham~you do know that right?
He had been awake to alot of things and was singing about mind control through the tv ~decades ago>"Slim on the video". This man was was no chump! He was way ahead of his time.
I'm not gay or religious so the whole gay marriage thing must be your battle not mine.
(Sigh) The fact that we have gay marriage proves that we're not a theocracy. Zappa was paranoid, and so what if organized religion is a sham? We're still not a theocracy.
It's spelled "you're," dummy. What I'm saying is, who cares if organized religion is a sham? Nobody's forcing you to join any religion, and we're not a theocracy. Zappa was dead wrong. He was simply a paranoid man who hated religion.
@Edgehead10075 Ok fine..you're. How many times are you going to repeat yourself? How many times are you going to bother me about your obsession with the fact that Frank Zappa had the right to believe what he wanted. Is your life that damn boring that you loose sleep over this crap? Is your life that damn boring that you have to keep coming @ me with your opinion on this--over and over-good god dude give it a rest--you have an opinion yippe...now go away! Sham is a sham "dummy"!
Explain. How are we becoming a theocracy? There's so much evidence that society is going in the other direction, especially on the issue of gays. You must be paranoid if you agree with Zappa.
@Edgehead10075 I believe the phrase was "headed for", or something similar. And Zappa explained it perfectly. When a particular religious code of ethics is codified into law to enforce theological hegemony, it is a sort of top-down religious imperialism akin to religious fascism. You can disagree, but it's an evidence based claim that can easily by confirmed by talking with Neocons or watching Glen Beck and the like.
Sorry, but "Glenn Beck and the like" have no power. Show me some evidence that we're headed for a theocracy. Show evidence with current law on the books. BTW, fascism has absolutely nothing to do with religion, which again shows how stupid Zappa was. The fact is that American society is becoming less and less religious over time, which is how it normally works. You're simply paranoid.
@Edgehead10075 actually, religion is a big corporation, a business so to speak, Fascism is when corporations becomes the government. And if you aren't completely retarded you would know the US is owned by big corporations, included Christianity.
Oh yeah, the U.S. is owned by Christianity, yet we have gay marriage and abortion on demand. Lol. I just love proving you paranoid anti-religious types wrong.
@Edgehead10075 You have no idea how ignorant and naive you look. Because the vast majority actually have something to say about these small, insignificant (non-profit) decision. Do you honestly believe a big corporation as Christianity, which has changed it's rules, included the bible from day one, would care about these small things? Not the official church, just a small amount of it's ignorant followers care about those topics. Good luck becoming a politician in America if you are an atheist.
@Edgehead10075 Second Comment: It is quite clear you do not know much about your own country, what is one of the biggest money machines in the US, next to big corporations as Coca-Cola? Christianity. What has equal or more power than most governments? Christianity, and religion in general.
Don't get me started on Catholisism, the biggest money machine on this planet, with more power than the US government.
And by the way, it is now illegal to mention homosexuality in Tennessee.
It is interesting to see the Frank Zappa clip and the reaction of the other people on the panel. I didn't think at first Ron Paul should be included, but it fits in with the theme. I don't know much about Ron Paul though, and am wary of him largely based on his followers.
@johnnystaccata Maybe you should consider doing research on Ron Paul instead of assuming you know him through other people---(thats just the dumbest thing I've read all night)--sorry!
zappa got a little caught up there, influenced by behavior of religions and not theology? Jesus Frank don't make me have to differentiate between theology and behavior, theology is a concept that encompasses behavior and beyond. Clearly Regan didn't turn us into a fascist nation. In fact, he did much the opposite; enacting a 2 tax bracket system and aiding in the caseation of the Berlin wall. Jeez talk about superficial politics. Score kudos from your hippie buddies but not me.
@DoctorRazzArea4 Reagan dog whistled the white supremacists by annoumcing his candidacy in philadelphis miss. Known for only one item of note in American history the murder lynching of civl rights workers schwerner goodman and cheney. He started class warfare with his welfare queen fraud. He sold crack cocaine through the cia to sell arms to IRAN then penalized the poor who bought his dope with outrageous racially motivated sentancing guidelines. Reagan instituted a police state on the poor.
please help me, i thought republicans were the radical capitalist who enjoy this form of faschism.. thx for reply, im canadian and sometimes interested in US politics
Although these two men agree on one or two issues I would never associate the two, not in my wildest dreams. Hitler and I may agree on flushing the stank bank after you make a deposit, that doesn't mean I'd invite him over for punch, or draw some wild connection out of thin air trying to associate a villain with a hero.
KS4RonPaul 4 days ago
Love zappa's music but I must say I agree more with Ron Paul's view on approaching fascism than Zappas'. I think that franks views towards America and fascism are a little pedantic, and slightly subjective. He was right about the corporations and the political side but nobody is putting a gun to your head to learn about Jesus. Believe whatever you want to believe, thats what makes America so great and is one of the reasons why every other country hates us.
DazReht 4 days ago
Some Republican propaganda zombie tried to convince me that Zappa would have voted for Paul. That is so fucking false that I want to puke. For the record, and on many of his records; Frank Zappa HATED Republicans. He had lots of fun with Ronnie Raygun and the failed Star Wars program. Yes, he took on Democrats, too. Only when talking about Govt. in a general way. He hated Republicans, spent a lot of time getting fans to register to vote at concerts before Bono made it cool. Paul pushers=funny.
CaptainJondlechit 5 days ago
Frank would of made a splendid president.
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"Once again you're implying that the government acted without the will of the people. The PEOPLE wanted non-discrimination laws."
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If 95% of "the people" wanted the other 5% killed, would you support that as "the will of the people", or would Constitutional rights suddenly matter then? I'm guessing the latter.
gdragon1977 2 weeks ago
Ron Paul is the only hope of America?
No the PEOPLE are the pnly hope for America. A politician will forever remain a politician. The scumbags behind American fascism will, sooner or later, convince/bribe/blackmail Ron Paul into either helping them or pretending they are hurting nobody. If they can't succeed that way, they'll either assassinate him or, and I quote Stalin on this: "The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything"
RancidAkuma 2 weeks ago
Frank hated Republicans. Frank was pretty clear about that one. Star Wars (won't work) was is one of my favorite anti-Republican songs. Frank wrote a lot about the nastiness of Govt. in general terms; Brown Shoes Don't Make It, when Nixon was President. He would have had a field day with WMD and Iraq. Main quote proving Zappa would NOT vote Paul: "When God created Republicans, he gave up on everything else."Appearance on Thicke of the Night (28 April 1984). Sorry Paul supporters, nice try.
CaptainJondlechit 2 weeks ago
I must corrected, Mr Zappa was the one calling himself a conservative. You can hear it for yourself in the Cnn crossfire episode with Zappa on youtube.
DanielTrolie 2 weeks ago
Captain, would you really call Paul a republican? He, and most others call him a libertarian. He didnt support star wars, neither did he support the wars making gas expensive in the states. He also referred to himself as a conservative. You ought to read Mr. Zappa book atleast before calling me a clown
DanielTrolie 2 weeks ago
Frank Zappa for President 2012! Because the corpse of a "genius" is better than the choices we have!
CaptainJondlechit 2 weeks ago 13
@CaptainJondlechit AMEN THAT!
1EvilScooterKitty 5 days ago
I think Frank would have thought the same thing as me; "Why run with the same party that brought us Reagan (failed supply side economics has destroyed economy and nationalism), Bush (cocaine for arms), idiot son, Nixon, Cheney, Rumsfeld, WMD, David Duke, KKK and Aryan support, 770 club right wing christian support, Iraq war to make contractors rich, fights liberty at every turn, the patriot act, etc". Zappa hated Republicans. Anyone that tries to tell you different is a Paul propaganda nut.
CaptainJondlechit 2 weeks ago
I think Mr Zappa and Mr. paul agrees on several key points: 1. They both want federal government out of education(mr. Zappa refused to pay his kids' school fees after they turned fifteen). Secondly, they both did and do not support "world police" types of national defence. Third, they both view themselves as conservative and constitutionalists(what they put in that may be a point of discussion). Fouth, they both wanted a government that served the citizens, and did what the constitution stated
DanielTrolie 2 weeks ago
As a fan of Mr. Zappas music since I was fifteen, and a politically interested guy. I thib
DanielTrolie 2 weeks ago
It would be grossly unfair to compare Zappa and Ron Paul, although they might overlap on a few issues, as most people would likewise come into agreement on some things with people in another camp- but anyone who knows Zappa well, already, as shown in the comments, knows this. If one looks at Franks positions on social issues, you realize that he was opposed to many Ron Paul positions.
neilslade 2 weeks ago
All one needs to do is to look at the record of Frank's outspoken opinions. There is no need to guess, nor put words in his mouth. He said much on the record, as well as on his records.
neilslade 2 weeks ago
@neilslade "Star Wars won't work; the gas still gets through, it will get all over you, Star Wars won't work." Yeah, and these clowns try to say that Zappa would support Paul, a Republican. Lots of anti-Republican Zappa quotes. These Paul propagandists go too far back in history and forget the last 230 years of greed on both sides. Yeah, he would probably NOT be running on the Rep or Dem side. Frank Zappa for President 2012! Because a corpse of a "genius" is better than the choices we have!
CaptainJondlechit 2 weeks ago
Corporations started to change with Nixon and came into their full slower under Reagan. Benito Mussolini, the father of fascism, said that it should more properly be called corporatism where government exists for the sake of large corporatism. Before then, corporations should have been carefully watched but after Reagan the became the enemy of American democracy. Ike warned us and we should have listened.
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BONZAII42 3 weeks ago
Zappa would have never agreed with Ron Paul because Ron Paul is a republican. Also, don't forget Zappa was an entertainer, that is how he made a living. Never vote for a comedian to be come a congressman like Al Franken. Who the hell voted for that guy, oh, probably Obama voters.
tipuppy2011 3 weeks ago
@tipuppy2011 him being republican means nothing, if they have the same views on something obviously they would agree, zappa wasnt so close minded to judge someone based on their political affiliation, there are democrats who are more right wing than ron paul, ron paul is probably became republican because he knew he could accomplish more, the USA is a republic not a democracy, and its the majority of the people in the republican party that give it a bad name and make decisions that
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 hurt the united states and its people but benefit big business and the politicians, the founding fathers were republicans, the party itself is not inherently bad and ron paul probably supports what the party is supposed to be, not what it is has been twisted into by greedy bankers and oil barons, ron paul sounds like he wants to put the party and the USA back on track and back to what it was before the military industrial complex and the federal reserve took over
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 Yes, I agree with you. Very well said. However, attacking corporations isn't the answer. There is nothing wrong with corporations. Corporations create careers. Government creates minimum wage.
tipuppy2011 3 weeks ago
Ron Paul 2012
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 3 weeks ago
ZAPPA the genius
TurkiyeCumhurbaskani 3 weeks ago
YEAH!! Where is the tea party for Ron Paul??? You got all these talking heads on Wall Street owned News clamming to be tea partiers. They high jacked the movement with there money. Those people on fox news are a disgrace, they aren't tea party or they would be talking about Ron Paul. VOTE; Ron Paul 2012
synzofanonymous 3 weeks ago
Anybody who thinks that Frank Zappa and Ron Paul are even remotely alike heard one word out of the two conversations--"fascism." The comparison ends there. Zappa was an incredibly brilliant and radical artist who thought like an artist. Ron Paul is a politician seeking attention and power--and they do NOT think like artists, even if sometimes they use some of the same words. DUH!
missabby2002 3 weeks ago
@missabby2002 seeking attention and power? are you kidding, one of his main goals is to get rid of the federal reserve, if you try to get rid of the federal reserve or even speak about ending the fed in public the last thing your likely to get is attention and power, the last person who even mentioned getting rid of the federal reserve was kennedy and look where it got him, he's taking a big chance taking on the fed, he's putting his career and personal life at risk
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 he's the only one with balls enough to speak his mind and actually have a plan that will put the USA back on the right track, the USA is pretty well the federal reserves bitch while it exists, who do you think you owe the deficit too? United states money is not even real money, they are bank notes, loaned to the US by the federal reserve at i believe it is 14% interest on every dollar, and they print new bills carte blanch, devaluing all the money in circulation
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 and ruining interest rates, and creating housing crashes and depressions whenever they like, until someone like ron paul gets elected and ends the federal reserve and dismantles the military industrial complex the US will continue its economic nose dive and you will continue to have your civil liberties taken away, most people dont realize it but the US is governed under military law, it is a military government, and when the economy collapses and the governement
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 declares martial law and civil war erupts you'll be praying for a ron paul, just take a look at all the bills being passed lately, they are preparing for just such an event.
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 So you think Kennedy didn't get attention? Didn't seek it? LOL! EVERY politician seeks power and attention and NEEDS power and attention to make anything happen. Yes, of course there are risks involved. But that's an entirely different subject, and it has about as much to do with Frank Zappa as any other single word in the dictionary. Ron Paul is the same old, same old, with a twist. Zappa was an original.
missabby2002 3 weeks ago
I see the left as extremely fascist nowadays, far surpassing whatever paranoia we had about the right. Fascist forbid and suppress opposition, they support violence as long as it's against the opposition. Back when Zappa said that, I probably thought he was right, but now that I've matured, and become more clearheaded, I think back to Reagan who was really very gentle and tolerant of all dissenting views. Compare that to the vile vermin on the left we see today. There actually is no comparison.
jagfug 3 weeks ago
@jagfug Yes, and the Tea Party and its supporters are incredibly tolerant and inclusive of opposing views.
DrSamba1 3 weeks ago
@jagfug not true at all, reagan was just as bad as alot of todays politicians, back then people just didnt hear about it and were fooled by his demeanor, he was just a puppet and was responsible for oking all kinds of illegal activities in other countries, illegaly arming rebels, overthrowing leaders, letting the cia import and sell drugs in the US to its own people, it was no different back then, the same people were pulling his strings as are pulling the strings of todays politicians
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 That has nothing to do with what I said. I was talking about fascism, and being tolerant of opposing views. - Some of what you're referring to did happen, but it was in the name of democracy. Look at what Obama's done so far with the "Arab Spring" bullshit story. Libya was better off with Ghadaffi! Now they have the Muslim brotherhood, and they took a step back to the 6th century with sharia law. Those people are more screwed than ever! Obama's destroying our country. Communist!
jagfug 2 weeks ago
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Let me get this straight; won't a Ron Paul presidency produce the biggest corporate society we've ever seen? I mean he wants no control on corporations at all. The fact that he wants to end the military dominance is a good thing, but at the cost of making corporate rule law is really not worth it. Comparing him to Frank Zappa, a progressive, is laughable, and a fraud. Read Glenn Greenwald on Paul to understand his kind of liberty
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rogerjab 3 weeks ago
Zappa never supported Reagan or any Republican. He probably would agree with Ron Paul on personal liberties and opposition to the Patriot Act. But not on less government regulation of big business. Large corporations that have no loyalty to any country are a huge problem and Ron Paul's flaw is that by advocating deregulation of them, he would let them run free. Great.
PoetryHound 3 weeks ago 2
@PoetryHound That's exactly right.
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TomasKristiansen 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound The reason he supports deregulation is b/c it doesnt work. Look at all the failures of regulation. Billions of dollars wasted on govt jobs that were supposed to do the oversight and they failed, not a little but alot. Everything the govt has stepped into cost has gone up and quality has gone down. Education, medical care, housing and even food and drug all failures. A free market can correct it (in theory) but we havent really tried it in the last 70 yrs.
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN Yes, let's stop regulating pollutants in water. Let's allow unlimited air pollution. Child labor laws? Get rid of 'em! Anti-discrimination statutes? Gone! Food safety inspections? Gone! Coastal zone protections? Forget it! Consumer protection regulations? You're on your own! Workplace safety rules? A thing of the past! Medical malpractice? Too bad for you!
Yes, I'm sure multinational corporations will take care of all those things out of the goodness of their hearts.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound umm no where does he say he wants to get rid of EPA or USDA. He is talkin about business (owner) being able to run his business as he/she wants. Want to hire only Africans, go for it, want to hire whites only, go for. However be prepared for community backlash. Workplace or OSHA, he isnt disbanding, so what part of the "big business" regualtion is he advocating de-regulating that you disagree with. None of what you stated is true...none.
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN He doesn't want to get rid of EPA or USDA, he just wants to get rid of the regulations they have on business. Of course he's never specific about which regulations on business he wants to get rid of. Just like a politician.
As for getting rid of non-discrimination laws, well, let's put it this way. It's obvious you're white.
It seems like Ron Paul is the only candidate who has supporters who never disagree with anything he says. Kind of like a cult.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Never assume (think you know the saying) Im Cherokee AS (Adopted Shawnee) so no im not white. Non-discrimation laws are against civil liberties, they are telling individual owners who they can hire, who they can serve etc. Good intentions but bad results. There is so much litigation (some real some not), why not let the community fix that? If i heard of a restruant that wouldnt serve (pick a race/ethnic grp) then I would never go there. Seems simple to me.
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN Discrimination is much more insidious than that. There's discrimination in hiring, in housing, in all sorts of social and economic activities. Too much to make it a boycott or demonstration feasible each and every time. And once again, the government didn't simply decide to impose non-discrimination laws on businesses. Citizens demanded it. Who's voice is more important - businesses or the people?
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound I agree that racism exists, no law ever written can stop that. Stupid will be stupid. Even the so called hring laws dont work. They just hire (token) ethnic groups. Want to really effect change imo it has to be done at the community level. For instance if I own a business and it so happens to have all Indians and Africans working there, does the govt have the right to come in and tell me I have to hire some whites? Even tho I had no really qualified applicants. There is the problem
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN I think you're making up a silly example. The main problem hasn't been discrimination against whites. You're right that compliance with non-discrimination laws started out with tokenism. But over time, racial diversity has become much more acceptable. But it wasn't always that way. And attitudes wouldn't have changed all by themselves. Once again you're implying that the government acted without the will of the people. The PEOPLE wanted non-discrimination laws.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Non-discrimation laws are fine, but there can really be no regulation of it. Unless the HR specifically says, im not hiring you b/c your black, how can they prove discrimination? I ran 2 business and I hired who I wanted, just so happens that most were Indian or African, not 1 white. Technically the govt could investigate me b/c I have no whites. How is that legal?
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN Regulations are used to enforce laws. So you're essentially saying the laws are fine but enforcing them is not. Your example is not a good example because it's atypical. There are ways of determining discrimination without someone admitting it. Housing discrimination gets uncovered by using fake black and white home-buyers. The black ones aren't told about available homes in predominantly white neighborhoods. But yes, there could be some cases that are unprovable.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound I would disagree if he came out and said he is disbanding the EPA (has actually stated they are needed), USDA, as for the rest ill have to wait and see. Im not for Ron Paul either, im actually for none of them. I more then likely will not vote as there is no one worthy of it. I disagree with his economic policy (return of the gold standard) and the sound money theory. He says we need it but ive seen nothing from him on how to achieve it.
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN Maybe he has said EPA is needed. I haven't seen that. But he clearly says there should be less regulation of business, so he needs to be specific and say which regulations he'd get rid of - environmental? Food safety? Nuclear safety? Fire safety? Which ones?
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound Correct its why I said ill have to wait and see. I do know he said the EPA was needed but not really clear on what he wants to de-regulate. Just have to see, he is the only canidate id even consider at this point and it seems every other canidate cant wait to try and start a war with Iran. War must end, the govt is using our troops to get their friends rich. They started hiring civs to do some of the jobs the military use to do, and they make 4 times what we do, imagine that.
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN I agree with Ron Paul about ending foreign military interventionism. And he looks like the only Republican candidate that would even think about cutting the Defense Dept. budget.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN There are some things where I agree with Ron Paul - less foreign military adventurism, less government intrusion in individuals' lives, repeal of the Patriot Act. But I don't agree with him on reducing regulations on big business. Those laws and regulations were put in place because citizens pushed and clamored for them, not because some anonymous bureaucrats wanted to increase the size of government. That's what anti-gov't folks always forget.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
@PoetryHound ie any shop owner should have the right to refuse service to anyone (even a group) IE a racist shop owner. Now if a shop owner is stupid nuff to do this, its on the people to fix it. Boycott the idiots stoe, protest on the sidewalk, post signs that he is a racist owner, blogg about it, email, youtube it, let the people fix it not the govt. Same goes for big business, say (insert any brand here) does something like child labor, boycott, blogg, protest make signs etc
ArtemesUSN 2 weeks ago
@ArtemesUSN Sure, the people have plenty of time to go around protesting everything. If a company is pouring invisible nitrogen oxides and mercury out of its smokestakes causing an increasing incidence of cancer and lost pregnancies, the people (not the government) will go out and do the epidemiological studies. The people will be experts and will buy the equipment and quit their jobs to do the studies. Sure bet.
PoetryHound 2 weeks ago
frank was exactly right about the reagan administration and what is going to happen. frank makes chomsky and his right wing minions look like complete idiots. its beautiful to watch.
hershysquirts187 3 weeks ago
@hershysquirts187 Noam Chomsky is on the right wing, talk about Orwellian?
rogerjab 3 weeks ago
wow just great i love it!
JeriDro 1 month ago
Ron Zappa 2012!
DimensionsofChange 1 month ago
Love him or hate him, Ron Paul is one of those rare politicians that is true to his beliefs and doesn't say things just to earn ratings.
Cherimoya9 1 month ago
The medical-industrial complex has the people by the balls.
modelleg 1 month ago 2
hang on, i've had my head in the sand for the last 20 years - is this the definition of progressiveness?
SendInTheChickens 1 month ago
lol and in 2011 we conveniently having the catholic church joining hands with the obama administration in obamacare, an already failing monstrosity meant for taking in even more revenue in and give back little as they of course can and will use those funds for more 4 million dollar vacations, kobe steak and champagne every night first.
illuminatioracle 1 month ago
Joe Biden wrote the fuckin' patriot act.
Barney Frank collapsed the economy and Ron Paul is his buddy.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
@PissObamachrist the federal reserve and your leaders collapsed the economy not barney frank, the whole reserve the banks and the US economy are one big ponzi scheme, and the patriot act, that was a page taken right out of hitlers play book, he even coined the phrase homeland security and was pals with bush sr's father
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 Whatever their role Barney played a huge role as well. It was all on purpose and it is all a part of their commie plan for a NWO.
PissObamachrist 3 weeks ago
Commie fucking scum pigs. Commies are Fascists and racist KKK Nazis and Obama-Jebus666 is the theocracy. Ron Paul sucks dick and so does Zappa. They're both dead, right?
Hahaha, fuckyou grandpa Ron Paul Joe Stalin Obama II.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Morality in terms of behavior not in terms of theology.
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rep757npay 1 month ago
Beware this boy of ignorance and this girl of want. But most of all beware the boy - Dickens
maneatingtoilets 1 month ago
It is disingenuous to use Zappa, Zinn and Chompsky as if the support Ron paul in a political ad. None of them would agree w/ Paul's anti-choice stand nor many others. This is not about people with similar stands, this is an ad that implies three great minds agree with a racist, shrill shill.
raymondguy 1 month ago
Zappa, Chomsky nor Zinn would never back nor vote for Ron Paul. This is an insult to all 3 for Ron, I CHOSE not to vote on NDAA, Paul.
raymondguy 1 month ago
Think Frank is rolling in his grave being used in a RP ad. Hopefully Gail we see this and have it taken down.
raymondguy 1 month ago
@raymondguy Whats wrong with showing common ground between people with different views
tadaa11 1 month ago
@raymondguy i love how everybody seems to know exactly how frank would think and how he would act, and using his wifes first name and assuming you know how she would think and act as well, how bout you just speak the truth, you dont agree with the video, thats fine, but dont presume to make assumptions and speak for other people
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 FZ is taken out of context and appears to support RP. Read up on Zappa, listen to his songs. Or as I did, play with original MoI members. This is a con and certainlly, 100% FZ did not approve this bogus 'endorsement.'
raymondguy 3 weeks ago
@fishboy1111111 "Politics is industry's wing of entertainment." ~ FZ. And I'll take Frank's entertainment over my shrill, racist representative's.
raymondguy 4 days ago
There's a lot more people talking about this and believing in this now, eh?
probrojeffro 1 month ago 2
VOTE RON PAUL 2012
A vote for Dr. Paul is a vote for yourself. He wants to limit gov intrusiveness in our lives & allow US to make our own choices. Stop politicians and the elites from thinking that they are so smart that they know how to run our lives better than we do. He is one of the few politicians that will make difficult decisions, he will balance the budget by his 2nd year, while other politicians plan to balance the budget after their term
LISTEN, UNDERSTAND, DECIDE. RON PAUL 2012
86austinc86 1 month ago 2
@86austinc86
"...allow US to make our own choices..."
A little ironic, don't you think, considering his obnoxious anti-choice stance on abortion? Also, he thinks Darwinian evolution does not occur. He is a fool.
ignoranttwat 1 month ago
Everybody keeps flapping their retarded jaws in this video, except Frank, who is trying to drop knowledge bombs. I agree with him 100%. America is going to die soon.
Rattlehead408 1 month ago
Nice video full of pedophiles.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Everybody in this video is a fascist Nazicrat muslim KKK libtard Satanist Communist NWO pigfucker. Every one of them.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
I bet this fascist Nazi Communist THEOCRAT pigfucker is burning in Hell right now.
I bet if he was still alive he'd have vote for Obama-Jebus 666.
Ron Paul is a Nazi Muslim Fascist Communist prick too. Just like Obama and the rest of the politicians in all parties. They're all theocrats and they're all leftists. They have a theology.
PissObamachrist 1 month ago
Athiest ideology would be communism! And communism is Naziism! Because they support the killing of fredom of religion! You can always challenge the moral majority! But dont try to kill it!
smowkdaddy 1 month ago
Don't forget the most famous system of Fascism is National Socialism (NAZI) , full name, National Socialist Worker's Party. Look up the Bellamy salute.
whisperingsage 1 month ago
I guess Zappa will enjoy the Muslim regime.
whisperingsage 1 month ago
reelect ron paul once he wins
ronnie dont give up
Doyalwcheese 1 month ago 3
Frank was prescient. This country has had a very inglorious history, but the Reagan years are a marker for the beginning of the end of the middle class and the rise of naked corporatism.
w9j15g 1 month ago 5
@w9j15g He even saw the "theocracy" that we were headed for. The religious right holds a huge influence in America, even though the constitution prohibits it. You can't hear a candidate speak right now without bringing up their religion and moral compass. If you ask me, it's sickening.
burnrider2001 1 month ago
@burnrider2001 Politicians, aside from a small few like Paul, will say whatever they think will get them elected as the servants and salesmen for a corporate plutocracy. Blame the dimwits who eat up that junk.
w9j15g 1 month ago 9
@w9j15g A recent study showed that 99% of Americans said they would vote for whichever candidate promised to kill the devil...:-D
burnrider2001 1 month ago
@burnrider2001 I am the 1%!
PrimusSucksOnThis 1 month ago
@w9j15g Sadly, that is the truth. The spinmeisters can talk about 50% of the populace into voting against their own self-interest. Sad, but true. And, when the ultimate aim is to focus all power and monetary policy towards the top 2% of the population you have a recipe for continuation of this status quo. The Citizens United and the Supreme Court being packed spell the downfall for progressive and populist interests. Where can we go to escape this truism?
slkaiser69 1 month ago
Frank was so smart and insightful. His prediction has come true
tacitus2244 1 month ago
Zappa better than his interviewers [they couldn't outsmart him], Ron Paul honest interview shown w/Meet the Press Tim Russert, Zinn knows his history.
GSNPFL 1 month ago
Those stupid old bastards need to listen close, Zappa was droppin knowledge and they call him an anarchist....wtf i cant believe we are so close to fascism and over half the country doesnt give a SHIT!!fml
jhssnare 1 month ago
Ahhhh, Frank had them thinking and shitting their fucking pants! What a God!
MattieCooper 1 month ago
@MattieCooper I would say Ron Paul is ahead of his time too and born long before Frank Zappa, God rest is soul.
watertonrivers 1 month ago
@watertonrivers ron paul is only 5 years older than zappa. i wouldnt call that long before.
bsmosley 1 month ago
frank was ahead of his time.
guitarsRkool1 1 month ago
There he goes again speaking the truth. That does it, he is so radical I can't vote for him. Instead I am going to vote for a meathead. That way I have a better chance of being on a winning team! Then I can complain in a few years that nothing has gotten better, and I am getting financially raped!
lizardfirefighter110 1 month ago 20
@lizardfirefighter110 I agree. I once voted for Ross Perot and was told that I'd thrown my vote away. People are brainwashed into believing that a third party candidate does not deserve serious consideration. I'm seeing less & less difference between the 2 major parties. And I'm afraid that the ship is being steered on a course that can not/ will not be changed. So...Think outside the box. Give Paul a chance. No better time then right now!
zep2zap 4 weeks ago 11
@zep2zap He's not a 3rd party candidate and he's ahead in the polls. And gets the most hits on the internet.
Pazrayna 3 weeks ago
@Pazrayna Did not express myself well, The perception is that he's not mainstream.Therefore, not appealling to the Republican mainstream. I was jumping ahead in anticipation of him running for pres. as a 3rd party candidate. And then, in anticipation of that,that... The perception of a 3rd party candidate is one where the candidate is expressing ideas that are not mainstream concerns of either major party. I like him. And I will vote for him. No matter what ticket he's on.
zep2zap 3 weeks ago
@zep2zap your totally right, there is not very much difference between both parties, ron paul is more left wing than a lot of democrats and vice versa, and when you get up to the top tiers of government there is no difference between parties, the same agendas will happen under a democratic president or a republican, only exception lately was kennedy he tried to be independent, he knew the federal reserve had to go,and the cia needed to be reevaluated and overhauled and it got him killed
fishboy1111111 3 weeks ago
@zep2zap I voted for Perot, too. That pissed me off when my vote went to the Republicans. I didn't vote Republican for a reason, so they just stole my vote. Like in 2000 when thousands of blacks were falsely classified felons so they were turned away from voting. Bush Jr. owes Abramoff and friends BIG time. He got his POTUS status AND his phony war in Iraq; security duty for Oil/Independent Corps. Zappa would have had a lot of material come out of this election season. Hated Reagan
CaptainJondlechit 5 days ago
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SmileyGarrish 2 months ago
And frankly, the people running the Christian money machine, I CAN GUARANTEE YOU, they are not religious. They are doing it for the money and you fucking idiots are falling for it!
DrNaturalPhenomena 2 months ago 2
Wow, can you imagine Ron Paul and Frank Zappa are on the same page? They are both correct. Nice explanation, Ron Paul. Good Job!
azmildman 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos 2
Actually the two of them have nothing to do with each other. Ron Paul mentioned nothing about theocracy, and we're not becoming a theocracy. Zappa was a paranoid idiot.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Oh, he didn't say theocracy? Nice TRY, but that wasn't the subject, the subject was FASCISM, and if you think the church isn't trying to control us then, you better read the news. Burning Korans without even knowing how to spell the word, protesting at gay soldier funerals, and shooting abortion doctors is how these good church people are expressing their feelings. Sounds like attempting to control to me.
azmildman 2 months ago
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Robert Novak - Oh mister Zappa do you really... do you really
Frank Zappa - YES I DO MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!!!
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2c26 2 months ago in playlist Favorite videos
He was wrong. We're not becoming a theocracy.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Then explain why a U.S. candidate has to say he is a Christian/Jew to get elected. And also explain why you think Christians/Jews aren't in control because of that. And now explain why anyone who tells us the founding fathers (There were only seven, you can't call any early citizens founding fathers, like Michelle Bachmann does.) were Christians when they were actually Deists. They are so desperate to be in control that they lie, which is against their commandments.
azmildman 2 months ago
The difference? Frank Zappa is still relevant, even when he's dead.
emandude 2 months ago 2
@thomarnow Yep everyone is blinded by their own self-interest,their own cause. Two Republicans that have said the same thing: Eisenhower and Ron Paul. Eisenhower's prediction's became true.
justcallmeassinine 2 months ago
my two favorite people,good combo
mrpresident4200 2 months ago
I agree with Paul more than Zappa.
bertly71 2 months ago
those last two quotes were completely out of context
McSplat 2 months ago
This is one fine video
anthropomorphosizeme 2 months ago
How to get Ron Paul Nominated for President: /watch?v=TxXWgwAxfUw
croakingembryo 2 months ago
Now where are we?
tufts64 3 months ago
Zappa is an idiot
painin2teeth 3 months ago
@painin2teeth "Your" an idiot..... he was a musical genius....you just showed the world your IQ.
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
A musical "genius" can certainly be an idiot about everything else.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
Also it's spelled "you're."
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Frank Zappa cut over 80 albums~how many have you released? You keep calling him an idiot but WHERE ARE YOUR FOLLOWERS? He is adored world wide~WORLD FAMOUS FRANK ZAPPA!! Get a life dude--your still bitching at people on this video day after day ~ Give it a rest!!! Frank was one of the most polite rockstars I have ever met.....and I've met the best! Even Jimmy Page would have loved to have met him--told me so himself!
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago 2
@BigNeonGlitterGirl : )
rg2027x 2 months ago
So being a "musical genius" makes one a genius about everything else? So does that mean Zappa could have been a nuclear physicist as well? Look, plenty of great musicians have said incredibly stupid things about politics, and Zappa was no exception. Maybe he was a "nice guy," but he was obviously paranoid about religion. We're not a theocracy, and we're not becoming one. Ten years ago, no state recognized gay marriage. Now six states and the District of Columbia do.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Actually we are under oligarchy right now headed to you know where ....
Paranoid about religion? He knows that organized religion is a sham~you do know that right?
He had been awake to alot of things and was singing about mind control through the tv ~decades ago>"Slim on the video". This man was was no chump! He was way ahead of his time.
I'm not gay or religious so the whole gay marriage thing must be your battle not mine.
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
(Sigh) The fact that we have gay marriage proves that we're not a theocracy. Zappa was paranoid, and so what if organized religion is a sham? We're still not a theocracy.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 "So what if organized religion is a sham"? Your an idiot--enough said!
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
It's spelled "you're," dummy. What I'm saying is, who cares if organized religion is a sham? Nobody's forcing you to join any religion, and we're not a theocracy. Zappa was dead wrong. He was simply a paranoid man who hated religion.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Ok fine..you're. How many times are you going to repeat yourself? How many times are you going to bother me about your obsession with the fact that Frank Zappa had the right to believe what he wanted. Is your life that damn boring that you loose sleep over this crap? Is your life that damn boring that you have to keep coming @ me with your opinion on this--over and over-good god dude give it a rest--you have an opinion yippe...now go away! Sham is a sham "dummy"!
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
I never said that he didn't have a right to believe what he did. However, I have the right to disagree.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Zappa was correct...
RustyIronloins 2 months ago
Explain. How are we becoming a theocracy? There's so much evidence that society is going in the other direction, especially on the issue of gays. You must be paranoid if you agree with Zappa.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 we get it...your gay.....now step away
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
I'm not gay. Is that supposed to be an insult? I'm just saying that gay rights kind of disprove that "theocracy" argument.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 go away --we heard you a million fuckin' times already!
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 I believe the phrase was "headed for", or something similar. And Zappa explained it perfectly. When a particular religious code of ethics is codified into law to enforce theological hegemony, it is a sort of top-down religious imperialism akin to religious fascism. You can disagree, but it's an evidence based claim that can easily by confirmed by talking with Neocons or watching Glen Beck and the like.
RustyIronloins 2 months ago
Sorry, but "Glenn Beck and the like" have no power. Show me some evidence that we're headed for a theocracy. Show evidence with current law on the books. BTW, fascism has absolutely nothing to do with religion, which again shows how stupid Zappa was. The fact is that American society is becoming less and less religious over time, which is how it normally works. You're simply paranoid.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 actually, religion is a big corporation, a business so to speak, Fascism is when corporations becomes the government. And if you aren't completely retarded you would know the US is owned by big corporations, included Christianity.
DrNaturalPhenomena 2 months ago
Oh yeah, the U.S. is owned by Christianity, yet we have gay marriage and abortion on demand. Lol. I just love proving you paranoid anti-religious types wrong.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 You have no idea how ignorant and naive you look. Because the vast majority actually have something to say about these small, insignificant (non-profit) decision. Do you honestly believe a big corporation as Christianity, which has changed it's rules, included the bible from day one, would care about these small things? Not the official church, just a small amount of it's ignorant followers care about those topics. Good luck becoming a politician in America if you are an atheist.
DrNaturalPhenomena 2 months ago
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DrNaturalPhenomena 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Second Comment: It is quite clear you do not know much about your own country, what is one of the biggest money machines in the US, next to big corporations as Coca-Cola? Christianity. What has equal or more power than most governments? Christianity, and religion in general.
Don't get me started on Catholisism, the biggest money machine on this planet, with more power than the US government.
And by the way, it is now illegal to mention homosexuality in Tennessee.
DrNaturalPhenomena 2 months ago
@RustyIronloins I think he only cares about driving his opinions up my ass--not about "truth" lol
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
It is interesting to see the Frank Zappa clip and the reaction of the other people on the panel. I didn't think at first Ron Paul should be included, but it fits in with the theme. I don't know much about Ron Paul though, and am wary of him largely based on his followers.
johnnystaccata 3 months ago
@johnnystaccata Maybe you should consider doing research on Ron Paul instead of assuming you know him through other people---(thats just the dumbest thing I've read all night)--sorry!
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
@BigNeonGlitterGirl I said I am wary of him. I did some research on him, and I am still wary of him.
johnnystaccata 2 months ago
@johnnystaccata well...you must have good reason to be wary then. Good luck with your future. bye
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
@BigNeonGlitterGirl I am definitely wary of Ron Paul, especially after being assaulted on youtube by you!! Get back, you hack!!
johnnystaccata 2 months ago
@johnnystaccata oops...never mind I went to your channel and saw that you are just a little shill---don't bother replying
BigNeonGlitterGirl 2 months ago
zappa got a little caught up there, influenced by behavior of religions and not theology? Jesus Frank don't make me have to differentiate between theology and behavior, theology is a concept that encompasses behavior and beyond. Clearly Regan didn't turn us into a fascist nation. In fact, he did much the opposite; enacting a 2 tax bracket system and aiding in the caseation of the Berlin wall. Jeez talk about superficial politics. Score kudos from your hippie buddies but not me.
DoctorRazzArea4 3 months ago
@DoctorRazzArea4 Reagan dog whistled the white supremacists by annoumcing his candidacy in philadelphis miss. Known for only one item of note in American history the murder lynching of civl rights workers schwerner goodman and cheney. He started class warfare with his welfare queen fraud. He sold crack cocaine through the cia to sell arms to IRAN then penalized the poor who bought his dope with outrageous racially motivated sentancing guidelines. Reagan instituted a police state on the poor.
easmachine 3 months ago
Oh, shut the fuck up.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 Maybe after you pull your lips off Reagan"s pipe you can wash that dirty little mouth out with soap.
easmachine 2 months ago
Everything you said was bullshit.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
please help me, i thought republicans were the radical capitalist who enjoy this form of faschism.. thx for reply, im canadian and sometimes interested in US politics
shoyur 3 months ago
It's spelled "fascism," dur.
Edgehead10075 3 months ago
@Edgehead10075 stop wasting our time.. /slap
shoyur 3 months ago
Capitalism and fascism aren't the same thing, moron.
Edgehead10075 2 months ago
@Edgehead10075 i didnt say that, FailHead
shoyur 2 months ago