Woah, I obviously wasn't consentrating at all when I watched that episode...
Can someone clear this up for me then? The Borg invade the Alpha Quadrant after they recieve a message from the surviving drones in ENT, thus the encounter with Picard at the start of TNG, and then all of the subsequent battles until ST:First Contact where the Borg go back in time and eventually send the message... creating a perfect paradox.
For example according to the purposed reason for the Borg being so far from the delta quad ( receiving the message from the drones ) creates a paradox of the frozen drones sending the message to delta quad leading to the conflict in which the drones end up on earth and then sending out the message
What people seem to forget is that there is such thing as changing the timeline. As back to the future 2 showed us. There can be numerous amounts of parallel timelines. And since the Borg traveled back in time in first contact therefore leaving those drones. Maybe thats a different timeline than the TNG q episode
As a matter of fact, there is no continuity error. Cpt archer didn't know they were called the borg, so he couldn't refrence them as the borg. It Is stated that q who was the first DOCUMENTED (it might not have been put on record or was top secret) FEDERATION (enterprise takes place before the federation was founded) with THE BORG (archer and everyone else refered to them simply as "the aliens")
@BridsonArts the fact that they didn't call themselves BORG really has nothing to do with anything. We humans tend to classify things we encounter so the "beings" would have been given some sort of designation that would have carried forward to when we met them again...Like I always say...If a MARTIAN knocked on your door, would he identify HIMSELF as a Martian? Most likely NOT! And yet a MARTIAN he would be...
@whorf2 Ever read Star Trek Destiny? They call themselves Borg cause it was the first word they've heard ... in fact the first drones were two humans from NX02 Columbia ... gotta read the books it is too difficult to explain :)
@whorf23 yeah, but it's true ... the last of them was saying "I'll never be a cy- (then the transformation of the insane Caelian and himself was complete) - BORG!" And since then they are calling themselves Borg ...
@whorf23 yeah but its true ... 4000 b.C (they came there by accident) the last of the humans said: "I won't be a cy---( then the transformation with the insane Caeliar was complete, the Hive was created) ---BORG!" Since then they are calling themselves Borg ... I know it's difficult to explain ...
Hey David, you should try watching this with the Closed Captioning on because frankly the audio translation is so far from what you actually said it's actually quite amusing
this ep makes no sense. and was make out of desperation. 1st off when did the enterprise saucer come off in first contact and was frozen in the ice? i dont remember it coming off. i know the deflector did but it was blown up. 2nd how is it that 24th cent. weapons can barely destroy a borg vessel but 21st cent weapons can. also their dr blood is the cure for not being assimilated? well why wasnt the data for that stored for years to come when the enterprise d fought them. or voyager?
@thebuckrogers22 The data storage thing is the big one. The "unknown species" aspect takes a bit of a hit. The problem with Ent is they wanted to throw in so many "future" races. Sticking to the backstories of ones we saw but never got into in the Fed was the key - Which is why the Andorian episodes were so darn good. They didn't need Klingon, Rommies or Borg. Just use the "Early Fed" ones and make them interesting....
Also, there is no continuity error. Archer didn't know their name so he could hardly refer to them as 'The Borg' in his log. No one in the TNG era would have a point of reference with which to access his log on this incident. Within Trek cannon this incident was forgotten and it seemed as if Q introduced them. No one in TNG had a reason to suppose there'd been first contact with them 200 years in the past. Remember 'Naked Now' when Riker BARELY remembered a similar incident happening on TOS.
@Yass72ForEver true but all he had to say was human looking people with cybornetics. or i am sure they have cam recorders all around their ship and could of kept it in storage for the future lol
This epsiode was freaking awesome. And it would take 200 years to reach the delta quadrant due to the ridiuclously massive distance between the two points. Anyone that's familiar with Trek knows there's a delay between subspace transmission and reception, and that's in the ALPHA quadrant in the 24TH century, much more advanced than Archer's time. Stop hating on Enterprise and watch it with an open mind. Peace.
The timeline was altered since the borg went back in time, causing a different chain of events. In The Next Generation time, the borg cube was already on its way to earth. Q simply put the enterprise there before it got there.
Sam Beckett leaped into Johnathan Archer in a future where Q doesn't exist, and the events in the 22nd century are only vaguely related to those that originally happened in the 24th century.
Meanwhile, the Evil Leaper leaped into Captain Kirk in 2250, causing Star Trek XI.
I never watched the final episode, but I think he got the ability to leap wherever he wanted.
So, he leaped into the body of a Starship Captain.
Fun fact: Archer just has the face of Sam Beckett because that's the actor's face. In reality, Jonathan Archer is a wrinkly 70 year old black man with white hair, but you can only see him if Backett looks in a mirror or something reflective....which is why you never see Archer using a mirror. However, Porthos sees Sam Beckett.
Either Ziggy told him that in order to leap, he had to make T'Pol and Trip love each other; he had to destroy the Xindi weapon to set right what once was wrong; or he is there by choice and just likes pacing around a starship, furrowing his brow, and yelling at people who disagree with him in any way.
Simply because there's 200 years between Enterprise at when Picard encounters the borg.
Plot device. The same could be said about Voyager (why will the transmission back to Starfleet take 70 years when subspace communication seems a lot faster than warp 9 every other day- ohp, plot device).
Similar story with Season 4 Andromeda. For the first 3 seasons, they had no interstellar communication. Slipstream was to iffy to use robots, for some reason, and there needed to be couriers to send messages.
In season 4, they were like "Aw screw it. Give Dylan Hunt a little ball so he can directly contact the Triumviers. No one's watching this series anymore anyway."
It seems space exploration shows try to emulate westerns, but they're never quite sure whether to use the Pony Express or the telegraph. And if they ever do decide whether or not they want communication to be instant, they'll change it on a whim for whatever reason they feel like.
Hmmmm.......... I'm not saying I know the answer but perhabs the subspace com-system of the assimilated freighter was that primitive that the message took 200 years to reach the collective and perhabs they weren't able to install an interplexing beacon on that ship like they've tried on the Enterprise-E.
@Tranchera another problem,... its Q!!!!!!!! who introduces picard to the borg not the borg themselves so why do they need this plot device, i know they changed things after the time travelling incident (first contact movie) but come on!!!!! i much prefer blaming Q for the borg...
wow i actually liked enterprise, i don't get why everyone hated it... I liked how it tied in with other series/movies and to those who say the borg weren't well enough advanced, i believe it's because the borg had to assimilate a 21st century ship... and they would've gotten their "Transwarp doohickey" or whatever back to full power if they'd had more time. <---- this is all my opinion, just because you may not like it doesn't mean "hey treat me like a loser"
I guess everybody hates the new Star Trek movie too. Damn Star Trek Purist. People like you rip on Voyager, Enterprise, Nemesis, etc way too much and frankly I'm fucking sick of it. People like you are too damn caught up in the little details, continuity, and canon period. *rolleyes*
I'm glad I'm a Trekkie that actually enjoys and owns all Star Trek and is not too damn caught up in the little details, continuity, and canon.
Its not a matter of star trek purity. Its a matter of how much the show, or movie insults the audiences intelligence. Voyager, Enterprise , and especially star trek xi holds the audience in complete contempt.
Oh please give me a break. No it doesn't insult the audience intelligence or hold the audience in complete contempt especially Voyager and Enterprise. I don't know where you got that stilly idea from. Apparently you don't watch enough Star Trek especially the original series, animated series, or the first 6 movies at all.
I have seen all the star trek franchise (except for the animated series) Trust me, enterprise was was stupid along with voyager. If you don't believe me, watch sfdebris work.
Voyager and Enterprise are stupid? Do you realize they are made by the same people that made TNG and DS9, right? Dude that is your opinion you think they are horrible and stupid but not to me. To me they are all great in their own way and I don't care if they have flaws. All the Star Treks have their flaws, errors, and mistakes but they don't bother me too much. Nothing is perfect.
It's hard to contain the canon to be flawless because there is like 737 episodes and movies of Star Trek. There is no way the writers can remember every single thing what is in the Star Trek lore/canon. It's just impossible to keep up with all of it and you should already figure that out. Wow I get thumbs down just because you disagree with me.
My argument is invalid? Oh please you didn't even explain why you think that Voyager and Enterprise are stupid. You think other Trekkies besides me that like Voyager and Enterprise or even the new Star Trek movie their argument is invalid too? Dude you are joking yourself. Just wait and see.
What in the hell! Captain Janeway and Archer are psychopaths? Are you screwed up in the head or something? I don't know what the hell you have been watching but Captain Janeway is not a psychopath or Captain Archer. I don't care if sfdebris gets 5 stars in his videos but he still is a conspiracy theorist. I have seen videos like that before. He is like that other idiot Confuse Matthew criticizes and says every movie and TV show sucks.
Well, the writers must think that their viewers are pretty stupid... and honestly... with some of the enterprise episodes, as well as some of the new movies, i DO feel pretty stupid for watching them...
aren't the borg supposed to have transwarp doohickeys anyway? is this show actually supposed to make any sense at all?
nothing done with the borg past the first invasion was any good. oh they need a queen. oh they need a voyager. oh it's all worse than the epic two parter. oh boy.
Good review... all those Enterprise episodes where they tried to make "coy" and "subtle" connections to the other series were just terrible. Writer masturbation at it's worst.
Forgive me for being dense...But I am having a bit of trouble understanding your example at 1:34 . Seeing as WW1 started in 1914, would that mean that it happened in the 20th century? Don't get me wrong, I do agree with you that regeneration was a bad episode, I'm just having trouble understanding your point of view.
The fact is that saying it's in the 20th Century is stupid because it's stating the obvious. It doesn't need to be said, and equates to the producers ramming the point down our throats. The only thing worse would be if they said "well we'll just have to wait... UNTIL THE NEXT GENERATION" (which they basically did in the episodes with Soong in them, right at the end).
the sad freaking...The borg didn't show up b/c of that stupid message....they showed b/c Q threw the enterprise into the path of the borg.....Honestly even having the borg in the 22nd cent was just dumb. So if humanity known this for 2 centuries they should have had amble time to prepare.
totally true man. i wish they never made this episode. but with enterprise ratings being low and everyone loving the borg i figure they thought it could save the show u know.
Yeah. I actually didn't mind the episode, but putting that message in and trying to link it to TNG just ruined it for me. Firstly, the Borg were never referred to by name. And if the stupid borg message wasn't a part of the plot then the whole incident would have gone down as one of the hundreds (if not thousands) of mysterious encounters written in the logs of starfleet, which would explain why TNG guys didn't know what to make of the borg (not being up to date with 200 year old tales).
you have to keep in mind though archer figured it out by only hearing a footnote in cocrhan's speech. I think if you gave picard and all of a starfleet all that info they figure it out as well.
I guess you've forgotten that Q chucked them into the path of a cube that was already on it's way to the Alpha quadrant. Either that, or you're a complete idiot.
I'm not sure which would be easier for me to accept, really.
um no..watch q who again. Guinan said "They encountered the borg earlier then they should have."
The borg cube wouldn't have been as agressive coming to earth if it never met the enterprise. It had nothing to do with the message thing. Even if it was coming to the alpha quadrant it didnt necessarily mean that they would have attack the federation.
Actually the Borg attacked the outposts between the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire in the last episode "The Neutral Zone" of the first season of TNG if you remember. The Borg were coming even before Q formally introduced the Enterprise crew to the Borg.
It's actually funny - they try to add continuity with that, and accidentally shit on TNG. Q flung the Enterprise-D right in front of a Borg cube because he was pissed off.
look, at this point, the timeline and anything about anything regarding star trek has been so hopelessly mismashed that even a respectable talented writer couldn't make sense of it. not that there haven't been good episodes since TOS (TNG was good for the most part, as was DS9, there were a few gems from VOY, and ENT was decent despite the bad press), its just that the good writers had to build off the world and cannon made by tossers. at this point, they should lock it all away and start over.
Possibly, but its also possible that the Borg didn't receive the distress call until after Picard had left the Delta Quadrant. The distress call may have given them more reason to attack earth,
im with the guy who made this video. i think star treks writing has gotten kind of lame and predictable. it needs a fresh perspective and fresh writing. example: compare how many times the phrase "bedside manner" is used in all of the star trek series compared to any other series (or real life conversation for that matter). the writing is stale and formulaic.
Apparently everyone forgets about the final episode "The Neutral Zone" of the first season of TNG where the Borg attacked the outposts between the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire way before episode "Q Who" happens. That is when the Borg in the Delta Quadrant gets the distress call.
Weren't the outpost along the Romulan Federation border being destroyed by the borg in season 1 before he was sent t the delta quadrant by Q (season 3). So could vaguelly fit.
Writer should have just said that the signal would've degraded before it could reach its destination or summat.
Yes they were. Actually it's Season 2 not Season 3 where Q sent them to the Delta Quadrant. Season 3 is where Picard gets assimilated and becomes Locutus of Borg in episode "The Best of Both Worlds" part 1.
omg you retard the guy who made his first warp flight made a speech about the borg and also about humans of the 24th Century so it isin't wrong he made a speech and he did said about people wanted to destroy his first warp flight
If you do not belive me search in youtube about the borg and you see the guy about corchan he did mentioned the borg so do not be a whise guy
Instead of squirming, stuttering, hestitaing and generally making a prat of yourself in your videos, you could try actually listening to Picard speak once in a while. You might learn something, my little australian convict.
Every time you open your mouth you end up acting like a clown. So listen to pratically anything Picard says, imitate, and you'll have improved yourself.
Talking about picard as if he were a real person? I don't think that's true at all. but he's definitely a good amalgam of the traits of various cultured white european men. you're a liar.
using playground sarcasm isn't going to make your point any more valid. my criticism of Tranchera is in regards to his complete lack of any tact, and total delusion in thinking his material is funny.
Now that IS funny... you setting yourself as an arbiter on what's funny and what isn't funny.
Total delusion?
I hate to say it, but Tranchera's got a load of people who think his videos are funny, and while I can't speak for all of them (as I don't know them personally) I know at least a dozen who certainly are not 'deluded'.
More to the point; who needs 'tact' when pulling the piss out of a crap Star Trek episode? It won't offend anyone but the criminally over-sensitive.
I was lacking tact in this video because I was explaining something FUCKING OBVIOUS.
And personally I'm surprised people find my videos funny in the first place. Most of it is in-jokes and mannerisms that I share with friends and family that *I* laugh at, but I don't expect anyone else to. It's just a stroke of amazing luck people enjoy them.
Well if you were to stick to making videos along the lines of Quark rick'rolling the Ds9 staff, then you'd be a whole lot funnier. But i don't think your "Spartan" puns are in any way funny. But you do make some pretty good videos, if truth be told. Sorry if i went overboard in trolling you.
"I, Borg" is one of my favourites, but I don't know if I can choose one specifically.
And Enterprise? Jeese, that's tough. I mean seriously, and I'm not being sarcastic now, it's hard for me to choose because I look at every single one and think they're pretty horrible.
Although I suppose the latter half of the Xindi thing was rather action packed and tension filled. If anything I'd choose an episode from there (but not the Nazi episodes).
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Who the FUCK is this SHIT HOLE talking about one of "Enterprise"'s best epsiodes. This fucking duchbag needs to first not talk about a well seasoned writer about calling one of the best scenes in the epsiode bullshit! The only thing is BULLSHIT is that this fucking retard, had to look on the Internet to find out that there was a connection to "The Next Generation". I watched this epsiode once, and I figured out watching that scene that there was a connection to the "The Next Generation" DUMBASS
You must be a real fucking troglodyte if you couldn't tell that I was being SARCASTIC when I said I had to look it up. Looking at any of my videos would clue you in instantly that I know what I'm talking about.
And it's a terrible episode, I'm not going to argue that point with you.
I don't think that youtube would allow a video long enough highlighting how wrong that episode was. Like the way the Borg on the Enterprise adapted to the Phase pistols, but Archer and Quick-Draw McReed keep blasting away on the Borg ship!
I have this great idea for a new Trek series on television. It can be called "Star Trek : T'Pol". Basically, T'Pol gets her own command of a ship, and cruises the galaxy exploring the fringes of known space and all.
The ship has an onboard beach facility where she lies around getting wet in a bikini. The 2nd in command can be this Australian guy, about 22, curly hair, big sideburns, spends a lot of time on Youtube. AND he's called Scotty.
Moreover, the line is a *QUESTION* asked by Archer to T'Pol. You can actually see the wheels in Archer's head attempt to add 200 years to his current year and then *ASK* T'Pol if that would make it the 24th century. Second, Why ask T'Pol in the first place? Is she an expert in the Gregorian calendar? She should have gotten sick all over Archer for making her even think about one particular geocentric earth calendar based on the approximate year of Christ's birth.
i disagree dude. tranchera instead of episode in brief u should do epi-disect-ode in brief. same style as before; just come in at the end and tell us all why its "bullshit" :p
I agree, seeing as though I put hardly any effort into this. The point was just too good to pass up, though. If I do any more of these I'll probably label them as something other than episodes in brief.
I can see Star Trek is something you're very passionate about, like me of course, that's why I went to a Convo, geeky I know, to meet George Takei and Robert Picardo.
I was wondering, is that guy a friend or brother and also you have a cool Australian accent.
Sussman should just be ashamed for being associated with both Voyager & Enterprise. I've seen about 10 mins of the ep in question (before switching over out of sheer boredom) It was a total cop out showing The Borg and demonstrated a lack of imagination. They did another one with the Ferengi IIRC, another alien threat supposedly not encountered until TNG. ENT was watchable once they gave it a purpose (season 3 The Xindi) but the first 2 years were shite on a stick.
yeah i agree i was barely able to watch seasons 1 and 2. however i liked season 3 and a lot of season 4. the saddest part is that this series did have potential, if only they had used it the way they should have
I hated the whole concept of the Xindi. They sat around episode after episode like cliche evil villains plotting to destroy earth when they had no valid reason to.
And for what? To build up suspense to an event we all knew never actually succeeds...
Enterprise had nothing going for it, thats why they injected stuff from the other series like the borg to liven the show up, yet it always came out "fake".
The worst moment was when the Romulans had a remote controlled holographic ship...
You have to remember provoko.. Enterprise took place in an Alternate Timeline because of all the time travel mumbo jumbo. The last episode of Enterprise was the only one that could have possibly been on the actual time line.
Personally, while the whole Xindi thing was at least something the writers could finally focus on, I didn't like it. The parallels to 9/11 and the whole American political situation was so annoying, they didn't even try to mask it.
Of course being Australian I'm a little more cynical about that. I couldn't take my mind off of it. The last bunch of episodes from season 3 were alright though. Watchable.
I think the Xindi thing was an interesting angle. Star Trek has never really dealt with religious fanatics before, except one-episode stories like the Pah-Wraith cult. I thought the Xindi were compelling villians. They almost worshipped the Sphere-Builders. And then when the truth was revealed, the reptilians, and Commander Dolim in particular, refused to believe it. In reality, they were so devoted to the Guardians because it helped out their agenda. It's a lot like fanatics of any religion.
If only they'd had some balls and had actually made it relevant to 9/11. Like if the Xindi were religious zealots attacking Earth for religious reasons. They did that episode in season 3 about the suicide bombers who took over the enterprise. The Xindi should have been like them, THAT would have made it interesting. In the original Star Trek, they did an episode about racism by changing it up and making the guys black and white, just mirrored in some. That was when Star Trek meant something.
It's not a question of maths, it's a question of crappy writing. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 24TH CENTURY, but the writers basically have to cram the point down our throats that they're talking about when Picard meets the Borg... which doesn't make sense anyway because Q introduces them. MORE SHITTY WRITING.
It's another lame attempt by the Enterprise writers to weasel their way into canon.
Postponed until...
A REAL Captain is commanding a REAL Starship Enterprise!
Picard/Riker/TNG FTW!
obiwanobiwan13 1 month ago
Those drones were dropped there during first contact, and they're the ones that made Borg aware of earth...
TIME PARADOX!
Or rather temporal loop, but whatever.
mees462 1 month ago
Woah, I obviously wasn't consentrating at all when I watched that episode...
Can someone clear this up for me then? The Borg invade the Alpha Quadrant after they recieve a message from the surviving drones in ENT, thus the encounter with Picard at the start of TNG, and then all of the subsequent battles until ST:First Contact where the Borg go back in time and eventually send the message... creating a perfect paradox.
Have I understood this right?
Peskdale61 6 months ago
For example according to the purposed reason for the Borg being so far from the delta quad ( receiving the message from the drones ) creates a paradox of the frozen drones sending the message to delta quad leading to the conflict in which the drones end up on earth and then sending out the message
MrBouncemouse 6 months ago
What people seem to forget is that there is such thing as changing the timeline. As back to the future 2 showed us. There can be numerous amounts of parallel timelines. And since the Borg traveled back in time in first contact therefore leaving those drones. Maybe thats a different timeline than the TNG q episode
MrBouncemouse 6 months ago
@MrBouncemouse All of Enterprise is toted as a "different timeline", but the video was mostly to say that I hate it and it's stupid.
Tranchera 6 months ago
The writer, Michael Sussman, is being a little SUSS :D
yellowpete79 8 months ago in playlist Star Trek Episode in Brief
As a matter of fact, there is no continuity error. Cpt archer didn't know they were called the borg, so he couldn't refrence them as the borg. It Is stated that q who was the first DOCUMENTED (it might not have been put on record or was top secret) FEDERATION (enterprise takes place before the federation was founded) with THE BORG (archer and everyone else refered to them simply as "the aliens")
BridsonArts 10 months ago
@BridsonArts My point was more that it's just a horrible excuse.
Tranchera 10 months ago
@BridsonArts the fact that they didn't call themselves BORG really has nothing to do with anything. We humans tend to classify things we encounter so the "beings" would have been given some sort of designation that would have carried forward to when we met them again...Like I always say...If a MARTIAN knocked on your door, would he identify HIMSELF as a Martian? Most likely NOT! And yet a MARTIAN he would be...
whorf23 8 months ago
@whorf2 Ever read Star Trek Destiny? They call themselves Borg cause it was the first word they've heard ... in fact the first drones were two humans from NX02 Columbia ... gotta read the books it is too difficult to explain :)
SecurityEscort 8 months ago
@SecurityEscort I'll have to check it out...However the first drones being NX-02 crew seems weird...
whorf23 8 months ago
@whorf23 yeah, but it's true ... the last of them was saying "I'll never be a cy- (then the transformation of the insane Caelian and himself was complete) - BORG!" And since then they are calling themselves Borg ...
It is difficult to explain :)
SecurityEscort 8 months ago
@SecurityEscort
whorf23 8 months ago
Respond to this video... Neat idea but books don't count...Technically
whorf23 8 months ago
@whorf23
Then what the point of books then?
CaptainJSheppard 5 months ago
@whorf23 yeah but its true ... 4000 b.C (they came there by accident) the last of the humans said: "I won't be a cy---( then the transformation with the insane Caeliar was complete, the Hive was created) ---BORG!" Since then they are calling themselves Borg ... I know it's difficult to explain ...
SecurityEscort 8 months ago
Hey David, you should try watching this with the Closed Captioning on because frankly the audio translation is so far from what you actually said it's actually quite amusing
kanenkitten 11 months ago
this ep makes no sense. and was make out of desperation. 1st off when did the enterprise saucer come off in first contact and was frozen in the ice? i dont remember it coming off. i know the deflector did but it was blown up. 2nd how is it that 24th cent. weapons can barely destroy a borg vessel but 21st cent weapons can. also their dr blood is the cure for not being assimilated? well why wasnt the data for that stored for years to come when the enterprise d fought them. or voyager?
thebuckrogers22 11 months ago
@thebuckrogers22: It's not the Enterprise's saucer. It's the Borg sphere that was shot down
kanenkitten 11 months ago
@thebuckrogers22 The data storage thing is the big one. The "unknown species" aspect takes a bit of a hit. The problem with Ent is they wanted to throw in so many "future" races. Sticking to the backstories of ones we saw but never got into in the Fed was the key - Which is why the Andorian episodes were so darn good. They didn't need Klingon, Rommies or Borg. Just use the "Early Fed" ones and make them interesting....
DEP717 10 months ago
@thebuckrogers22 saucer section? ... it's the Borg Sphere from First Contact shot down by Enterprise NCC 1701-E ... xD
SecurityEscort 8 months ago
nice hair.
gmorr12345 1 year ago
I think it makes sense.
michaelhviper 1 year ago
Also, there is no continuity error. Archer didn't know their name so he could hardly refer to them as 'The Borg' in his log. No one in the TNG era would have a point of reference with which to access his log on this incident. Within Trek cannon this incident was forgotten and it seemed as if Q introduced them. No one in TNG had a reason to suppose there'd been first contact with them 200 years in the past. Remember 'Naked Now' when Riker BARELY remembered a similar incident happening on TOS.
Yass72ForEver 1 year ago
@Yass72ForEver true but all he had to say was human looking people with cybornetics. or i am sure they have cam recorders all around their ship and could of kept it in storage for the future lol
thebuckrogers22 11 months ago
This epsiode was freaking awesome. And it would take 200 years to reach the delta quadrant due to the ridiuclously massive distance between the two points. Anyone that's familiar with Trek knows there's a delay between subspace transmission and reception, and that's in the ALPHA quadrant in the 24TH century, much more advanced than Archer's time. Stop hating on Enterprise and watch it with an open mind. Peace.
Yass72ForEver 1 year ago
All I could hear were the fart noises from the chair. STOP FARTING!
TerranRich 1 year ago
yeah, yeah, yeah, both of your guys hair are bit ridiculous as well, so that even
dropeiro 1 year ago
The timeline was altered since the borg went back in time, causing a different chain of events. In The Next Generation time, the borg cube was already on its way to earth. Q simply put the enterprise there before it got there.
smthone 1 year ago
you are right and the borg use the mind to tell the rest of the Borg about earth
TheFirstEvil100 1 year ago
you are fukin retarded and not cool and ure friends a gay wolfman
TheECLLegerity 1 year ago
What's even more ridiculous is that the Writer "Michael Sussman" makes more money than you or I will ever see in a lifetime.
Nice vid tho.
darthsideous1968 1 year ago
wow you're really cute and sarcastic, and cute . . . I said that already
hungup1986 2 years ago
Wait, wasn't it Q that introduced the Borg to the Federation
Pahjx 2 years ago 16
Sam Beckett leaped into Johnathan Archer in a future where Q doesn't exist, and the events in the 22nd century are only vaguely related to those that originally happened in the 24th century.
Meanwhile, the Evil Leaper leaped into Captain Kirk in 2250, causing Star Trek XI.
Make sense now? ;-)
kvn8907 2 years ago 2
I only watched the first season, but I thought Beckett could only leap into people/events from his own lifetime?
n9freaky 2 years ago
I never watched the final episode, but I think he got the ability to leap wherever he wanted.
So, he leaped into the body of a Starship Captain.
Fun fact: Archer just has the face of Sam Beckett because that's the actor's face. In reality, Jonathan Archer is a wrinkly 70 year old black man with white hair, but you can only see him if Backett looks in a mirror or something reflective....which is why you never see Archer using a mirror. However, Porthos sees Sam Beckett.
kvn8907 2 years ago
Well that explains some things.
n9freaky 2 years ago
Doesn't explain why he's still there, though.
Either Ziggy told him that in order to leap, he had to make T'Pol and Trip love each other; he had to destroy the Xindi weapon to set right what once was wrong; or he is there by choice and just likes pacing around a starship, furrowing his brow, and yelling at people who disagree with him in any way.
kvn8907 2 years ago
Gimmie a "RET"
Gimmie a "CON"
irreverentmoose 2 years ago
@Pahjx noo that was when q sent the enterprise to the Borg.
trimi38 1 year ago
@Pahjx Yeah, oh but wait, there's that one episode of ENT where an away team on a snowy planet finds a few Borg.
danwat1234 5 months ago
Why would it take 200 years? Aren't subspace transmissions a little faster than ships? Wouldn't it be more like 50 years at the most?
alexfanx 2 years ago
Simply because there's 200 years between Enterprise at when Picard encounters the borg.
Plot device. The same could be said about Voyager (why will the transmission back to Starfleet take 70 years when subspace communication seems a lot faster than warp 9 every other day- ohp, plot device).
That said, I like Voyager.
Tranchera 2 years ago
Yeah, Trek fails at continuity.
alexfanx 2 years ago
Similar story with Season 4 Andromeda. For the first 3 seasons, they had no interstellar communication. Slipstream was to iffy to use robots, for some reason, and there needed to be couriers to send messages.
In season 4, they were like "Aw screw it. Give Dylan Hunt a little ball so he can directly contact the Triumviers. No one's watching this series anymore anyway."
kvn8907 2 years ago
It seems space exploration shows try to emulate westerns, but they're never quite sure whether to use the Pony Express or the telegraph. And if they ever do decide whether or not they want communication to be instant, they'll change it on a whim for whatever reason they feel like.
kvn8907 2 years ago
@Tranchera
Hmmmm.......... I'm not saying I know the answer but perhabs the subspace com-system of the assimilated freighter was that primitive that the message took 200 years to reach the collective and perhabs they weren't able to install an interplexing beacon on that ship like they've tried on the Enterprise-E.
FekLeyrTarg 1 year ago
@Tranchera another problem,... its Q!!!!!!!! who introduces picard to the borg not the borg themselves so why do they need this plot device, i know they changed things after the time travelling incident (first contact movie) but come on!!!!! i much prefer blaming Q for the borg...
paulsky1 1 year ago
wow i actually liked enterprise, i don't get why everyone hated it... I liked how it tied in with other series/movies and to those who say the borg weren't well enough advanced, i believe it's because the borg had to assimilate a 21st century ship... and they would've gotten their "Transwarp doohickey" or whatever back to full power if they'd had more time. <---- this is all my opinion, just because you may not like it doesn't mean "hey treat me like a loser"
visionary1138 2 years ago 6
everyone hates enterprise because it sucks.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
well not everyone hates it because I don't, and I've heard people on here who don't as well.
visionary1138 2 years ago
I guess everybody hates the new Star Trek movie too. Damn Star Trek Purist. People like you rip on Voyager, Enterprise, Nemesis, etc way too much and frankly I'm fucking sick of it. People like you are too damn caught up in the little details, continuity, and canon period. *rolleyes*
I'm glad I'm a Trekkie that actually enjoys and owns all Star Trek and is not too damn caught up in the little details, continuity, and canon.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
Its not a matter of star trek purity. Its a matter of how much the show, or movie insults the audiences intelligence. Voyager, Enterprise , and especially star trek xi holds the audience in complete contempt.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
Oh please give me a break. No it doesn't insult the audience intelligence or hold the audience in complete contempt especially Voyager and Enterprise. I don't know where you got that stilly idea from. Apparently you don't watch enough Star Trek especially the original series, animated series, or the first 6 movies at all.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
I have seen all the star trek franchise (except for the animated series) Trust me, enterprise was was stupid along with voyager. If you don't believe me, watch sfdebris work.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
Voyager and Enterprise are stupid? Do you realize they are made by the same people that made TNG and DS9, right? Dude that is your opinion you think they are horrible and stupid but not to me. To me they are all great in their own way and I don't care if they have flaws. All the Star Treks have their flaws, errors, and mistakes but they don't bother me too much. Nothing is perfect.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
It's hard to contain the canon to be flawless because there is like 737 episodes and movies of Star Trek. There is no way the writers can remember every single thing what is in the Star Trek lore/canon. It's just impossible to keep up with all of it and you should already figure that out. Wow I get thumbs down just because you disagree with me.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
You get a thumbs down because your argument is invalid.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
My argument is invalid? Oh please you didn't even explain why you think that Voyager and Enterprise are stupid. You think other Trekkies besides me that like Voyager and Enterprise or even the new Star Trek movie their argument is invalid too? Dude you are joking yourself. Just wait and see.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
I tried to explain my point of view, but apparently the comment didn't stick for some reason. So I'll repeat it.
Voyager was stupid for countless reasons, one being that the captain was a blood-thirsty psychopath.
The same could be said for enterprise, except instead of being blood-thirsty Archer was just a psychopath.
As I said before, watch sfdebris channel. He does a better job at pointing out bad trek than I do.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
What in the hell! Captain Janeway and Archer are psychopaths? Are you screwed up in the head or something? I don't know what the hell you have been watching but Captain Janeway is not a psychopath or Captain Archer. I don't care if sfdebris gets 5 stars in his videos but he still is a conspiracy theorist. I have seen videos like that before. He is like that other idiot Confuse Matthew criticizes and says every movie and TV show sucks.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
Forget it. Your mind is already made up, if you want to ignore logical facts that's your prerogative.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
WHY ALL THAT HATE? these were funny videos
jnwestray78 2 years ago
if you dont like the new Star Trek you just dont like movies that are good. Star Trek was the best film since Wrath of Khan.
Otherwise, Voyager got old fast after the first 2 seasons... and hey, even Enterprise managed to stay on air longer than the Original Series did.
I didn't care for Enterprise either, but I'm just sayin... (and by that, i mean TOS is overrated)
SephirothDZX 2 years ago
Is this guy drunk?
louwil65 2 years ago 2
Ah David, I didn't realise this was you
kanenkitten 2 years ago
Says who?!
Tranchera 2 years ago
Well, the writers must think that their viewers are pretty stupid... and honestly... with some of the enterprise episodes, as well as some of the new movies, i DO feel pretty stupid for watching them...
Supenmanu 2 years ago
LOL, what? xD I think I got the picture on this episode, homie.
Myuutsu4life 2 years ago
You live in the basement and got no life ? go out do some useful ! 8-))))
Simferopolets 2 years ago
You forgot to give me five stars.
Tranchera 2 years ago
aren't the borg supposed to have transwarp doohickeys anyway? is this show actually supposed to make any sense at all?
nothing done with the borg past the first invasion was any good. oh they need a queen. oh they need a voyager. oh it's all worse than the epic two parter. oh boy.
larkhainan 2 years ago
Good review... all those Enterprise episodes where they tried to make "coy" and "subtle" connections to the other series were just terrible. Writer masturbation at it's worst.
spork24601 2 years ago
"A hundred years ago?! That makes it the 20th century."
AtomicRobot3 2 years ago
to me, the time loop is close without any discontinuity
inthabuilding 2 years ago
you have a squeaky chair that sounds like farts
Magik57 2 years ago 2
Forgive me for being dense...But I am having a bit of trouble understanding your example at 1:34 . Seeing as WW1 started in 1914, would that mean that it happened in the 20th century? Don't get me wrong, I do agree with you that regeneration was a bad episode, I'm just having trouble understanding your point of view.
CaptainPositron 2 years ago
The fact is that saying it's in the 20th Century is stupid because it's stating the obvious. It doesn't need to be said, and equates to the producers ramming the point down our throats. The only thing worse would be if they said "well we'll just have to wait... UNTIL THE NEXT GENERATION" (which they basically did in the episodes with Soong in them, right at the end).
Tranchera 2 years ago
I loved this episode!!!
rubick79 2 years ago
the sad freaking...The borg didn't show up b/c of that stupid message....they showed b/c Q threw the enterprise into the path of the borg.....Honestly even having the borg in the 22nd cent was just dumb. So if humanity known this for 2 centuries they should have had amble time to prepare.
strikemode14 2 years ago
totally true man. i wish they never made this episode. but with enterprise ratings being low and everyone loving the borg i figure they thought it could save the show u know.
Y2CJ3600 2 years ago
Yeah. I actually didn't mind the episode, but putting that message in and trying to link it to TNG just ruined it for me. Firstly, the Borg were never referred to by name. And if the stupid borg message wasn't a part of the plot then the whole incident would have gone down as one of the hundreds (if not thousands) of mysterious encounters written in the logs of starfleet, which would explain why TNG guys didn't know what to make of the borg (not being up to date with 200 year old tales).
kolaxanthe 2 years ago
you have to keep in mind though archer figured it out by only hearing a footnote in cocrhan's speech. I think if you gave picard and all of a starfleet all that info they figure it out as well.
strikemode14 2 years ago
I guess you've forgotten that Q chucked them into the path of a cube that was already on it's way to the Alpha quadrant. Either that, or you're a complete idiot.
I'm not sure which would be easier for me to accept, really.
KoNP69 2 years ago
um no..watch q who again. Guinan said "They encountered the borg earlier then they should have."
The borg cube wouldn't have been as agressive coming to earth if it never met the enterprise. It had nothing to do with the message thing. Even if it was coming to the alpha quadrant it didnt necessarily mean that they would have attack the federation.
strikemode14 2 years ago
Actually the Borg attacked the outposts between the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire in the last episode "The Neutral Zone" of the first season of TNG if you remember. The Borg were coming even before Q formally introduced the Enterprise crew to the Borg.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
Also in the episode the Borg are more like vampires, it would have made just as much sense if Dr. Van Helsing came and hung garlic around sickbay.
sirdidymus62 2 years ago
GOOF IDIOT
MillionBuckGuy 2 years ago
It's actually funny - they try to add continuity with that, and accidentally shit on TNG. Q flung the Enterprise-D right in front of a Borg cube because he was pissed off.
SarcasticTribble 2 years ago
This is actually My favourite Enterprise episode, I see your point but it did make the borg scary again
greenpenguino 2 years ago
Its not even funny... jackass
truyils 3 years ago
you are so right about that pluse dont forget that the Borg all share the same mineds so they would have got it a lot sooner too
guodujjdv 3 years ago
look, at this point, the timeline and anything about anything regarding star trek has been so hopelessly mismashed that even a respectable talented writer couldn't make sense of it. not that there haven't been good episodes since TOS (TNG was good for the most part, as was DS9, there were a few gems from VOY, and ENT was decent despite the bad press), its just that the good writers had to build off the world and cannon made by tossers. at this point, they should lock it all away and start over.
Kakerot4141 3 years ago
didnt the borg first get the idea to invade earth when Q knocked picards enterprise into their space?
captainunload 3 years ago 2
Possibly, but its also possible that the Borg didn't receive the distress call until after Picard had left the Delta Quadrant. The distress call may have given them more reason to attack earth,
wayneg91 3 years ago
im with the guy who made this video. i think star treks writing has gotten kind of lame and predictable. it needs a fresh perspective and fresh writing. example: compare how many times the phrase "bedside manner" is used in all of the star trek series compared to any other series (or real life conversation for that matter). the writing is stale and formulaic.
captainunload 3 years ago
Apparently everyone forgets about the final episode "The Neutral Zone" of the first season of TNG where the Borg attacked the outposts between the Federation and the Romulan Star Empire way before episode "Q Who" happens. That is when the Borg in the Delta Quadrant gets the distress call.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
It is really subtle, isn't it?
Without that scene I would've never guessed.
kitchenaut 3 years ago 3
LOL!
nismobeach 3 years ago 2
and yes it says from the future the 24th century
Darkjunior224 3 years ago
What a fuckstain.
BarryDennen12 3 years ago
Weren't the outpost along the Romulan Federation border being destroyed by the borg in season 1 before he was sent t the delta quadrant by Q (season 3). So could vaguelly fit.
Writer should have just said that the signal would've degraded before it could reach its destination or summat.
42far 2 years ago
the TNG writers didn't know what to come up with so they were just throwing a suspcious destruction.
If Borg had been that close they would have envade Earth or Romulus at that pt not wait so long.
strikemode14 2 years ago
Yes they were. Actually it's Season 2 not Season 3 where Q sent them to the Delta Quadrant. Season 3 is where Picard gets assimilated and becomes Locutus of Borg in episode "The Best of Both Worlds" part 1.
TheStarTreker 2 years ago
Search in youtube Borg Documentary and take Video 1
Read and lisen carefully in the first minutes !!!!!!! loser !!!!!!
Darkjunior224 3 years ago
omg you retard the guy who made his first warp flight made a speech about the borg and also about humans of the 24th Century so it isin't wrong he made a speech and he did said about people wanted to destroy his first warp flight
If you do not belive me search in youtube about the borg and you see the guy about corchan he did mentioned the borg so do not be a whise guy
Darkjunior224 3 years ago
You missed my point entirely.
Tranchera 3 years ago
The writers of the whole enterprise series should be forced to live in Siberia for the horsesh*t that was the show.
The should have all died at the hands of the klingons in the first season, end of show!
OneCovenant4All 3 years ago 2
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No i did not. watch Borg documentary then if you don't get it
If you think its bullshit why watching star trek then
1 watch First contact verry carefully
2 watch Borg documentary all parts
3 the answer is there so please delete this video then its pointless
Darkjunior224 3 years ago
The answer to why the episode is written so badly?
No, you MISSED MY POINT ENTIRELY. Go away.
Tranchera 3 years ago
An awful comment. How do you sleep at night?
GatewayProductions 3 years ago
"On top of a pile of money with many beautiful ladies."
bemydemon 3 years ago
DAmn right they screwed upo, but it's still an entertaining episode in my opinion.
Sterlng 3 years ago
This messes up the whole story
Colombianyoyo 3 years ago
Well if they encounted the Borg, surely Picard and Kirk would have it in their data archive.
So yes the story likes are fucked up.
badwolf66 3 years ago
Just watched this again,
MAN is this episode bullshit or what?
Think about it. "The message won't reach the Delta Quadrant for another 200 years".
And then what? They instantly appear to kick Picard's ass?
Wouldn't it make more sense if the message got there after, say... 100 years? Or less? Giving the Borg guys a chance to get going?
A very ill-thought-out scene in an episode that should've been a lot better. Fuck Enterprise.
Zebonka 3 years ago
Instead of squirming, stuttering, hestitaing and generally making a prat of yourself in your videos, you could try actually listening to Picard speak once in a while. You might learn something, my little australian convict.
captainsurrey 3 years ago
And what exactly did Picard say that I am supposed to be listening to?
Tranchera 3 years ago
Every time you open your mouth you end up acting like a clown. So listen to pratically anything Picard says, imitate, and you'll have improved yourself.
captainsurrey 3 years ago
Just for you, in the next video I make I will speak like Captain Picard.
Tranchera 3 years ago
You want him to speak with an English accent and order Earl Grey tea all the time?
sirdidymus62 2 years ago
tea, earl grey HOT!!!
Ha I can say that because I HAVE A BRITISH ACCENT!!
greenpenguino 2 years ago 2
Haha, your role model is a fictional character.
Zebonka 3 years ago 2
i don't have any role models. perhaps you should be more careful in your investigations, Zebonka...
captainsurrey 3 years ago
You're right, I should've investigated further.
The fact that your icon was Patrick Stewart and that you're talking about Picard as though he were a real person should've tipped me off.
Zebonka 3 years ago 2
Talking about picard as if he were a real person? I don't think that's true at all. but he's definitely a good amalgam of the traits of various cultured white european men. you're a liar.
using playground sarcasm isn't going to make your point any more valid. my criticism of Tranchera is in regards to his complete lack of any tact, and total delusion in thinking his material is funny.
captainsurrey 3 years ago
Now that IS funny... you setting yourself as an arbiter on what's funny and what isn't funny.
Total delusion?
I hate to say it, but Tranchera's got a load of people who think his videos are funny, and while I can't speak for all of them (as I don't know them personally) I know at least a dozen who certainly are not 'deluded'.
More to the point; who needs 'tact' when pulling the piss out of a crap Star Trek episode? It won't offend anyone but the criminally over-sensitive.
Zebonka 3 years ago
I was lacking tact in this video because I was explaining something FUCKING OBVIOUS.
And personally I'm surprised people find my videos funny in the first place. Most of it is in-jokes and mannerisms that I share with friends and family that *I* laugh at, but I don't expect anyone else to. It's just a stroke of amazing luck people enjoy them.
Tranchera 3 years ago
Well if you were to stick to making videos along the lines of Quark rick'rolling the Ds9 staff, then you'd be a whole lot funnier. But i don't think your "Spartan" puns are in any way funny. But you do make some pretty good videos, if truth be told. Sorry if i went overboard in trolling you.
captainsurrey 3 years ago
Whatever shit head still think it's one of "Enterprise"s best episodes. Anyway which is your favorite "Enterprise" or for that matter, Borg episodes?
RegBeta 3 years ago
"I, Borg" is one of my favourites, but I don't know if I can choose one specifically.
And Enterprise? Jeese, that's tough. I mean seriously, and I'm not being sarcastic now, it's hard for me to choose because I look at every single one and think they're pretty horrible.
Although I suppose the latter half of the Xindi thing was rather action packed and tension filled. If anything I'd choose an episode from there (but not the Nazi episodes).
Tranchera 3 years ago
Any episode where Hoshi acts like a slut.
Zebonka 3 years ago 2
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Who the FUCK is this SHIT HOLE talking about one of "Enterprise"'s best epsiodes. This fucking duchbag needs to first not talk about a well seasoned writer about calling one of the best scenes in the epsiode bullshit! The only thing is BULLSHIT is that this fucking retard, had to look on the Internet to find out that there was a connection to "The Next Generation". I watched this epsiode once, and I figured out watching that scene that there was a connection to the "The Next Generation" DUMBASS
RegBeta 3 years ago
You must be a real fucking troglodyte if you couldn't tell that I was being SARCASTIC when I said I had to look it up. Looking at any of my videos would clue you in instantly that I know what I'm talking about.
And it's a terrible episode, I'm not going to argue that point with you.
Tranchera 3 years ago
yah hehe
24th century .. time loop set into motion.. blah blah writer subtletly.. the only thing missing is a broken holodeck or Captain Janeway.
<3 episode in brief
AllieSocks12 3 years ago
One of the worst episodes in the worst series of Star Trek.
The idea is initially pretty good; re-using those borg from First Contact was a great idea.
But fucks sake - Neelix- WHOOPS I mean Flox (because it's not like they're the same character),
curing himself? And then no one ever hearing about the Borg again until Baldy shows up?
No thanks. Shit episode.
Zebonka 3 years ago 2
I don't think that youtube would allow a video long enough highlighting how wrong that episode was. Like the way the Borg on the Enterprise adapted to the Phase pistols, but Archer and Quick-Draw McReed keep blasting away on the Borg ship!
shininginshadows 3 years ago
This isn't funny because it isn't your style. All your other clips were funny because of editing. Thats not the case here.
CaptainPositron 3 years ago
I have this great idea for a new Trek series on television. It can be called "Star Trek : T'Pol". Basically, T'Pol gets her own command of a ship, and cruises the galaxy exploring the fringes of known space and all.
The ship has an onboard beach facility where she lies around getting wet in a bikini. The 2nd in command can be this Australian guy, about 22, curly hair, big sideburns, spends a lot of time on Youtube. AND he's called Scotty.
Great idea. +6.
Zebonka 3 years ago
I'd rather Star Trek: Hoshi, personally. T'Pol is a bit too post-op transsexual for my tastes.
I'd have asked for Star Trek: Seven of Nine, but seasons 4-7 of Voyager were pretty much that.
pointman4000 3 years ago
Funnily enough, one of the better Borg episodes they've done.
pointman4000 3 years ago
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starlinej 3 years ago
It's a pre-destination paradox
24th century
1. Borg encounter Enterprise-D at J25
2. Borg attack Earth in 2373, go back in time to 2063
21st and 22nd centuries
3. Borg debris gets caught into Earth's gravity, crashes into North pole
4. Borg debris regenerates, sends message to Delta Quadrant where it is recieved 200 years later, causing the Borg to investigate humanity.
24th century (again)
5. Borg encounter Enterprise-D at J25
----and the loop continues
MisterGarak 3 years ago 3
LoL
1)You have a very squeaky chair.
2)I love how he just pops in then out like he was never there.
JennyCSI 3 years ago
LOL
GeneralYogiBear123 3 years ago 3
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That wasn't funny! :(
CaptainPositron 3 years ago
Moreover, the line is a *QUESTION* asked by Archer to T'Pol. You can actually see the wheels in Archer's head attempt to add 200 years to his current year and then *ASK* T'Pol if that would make it the 24th century. Second, Why ask T'Pol in the first place? Is she an expert in the Gregorian calendar? She should have gotten sick all over Archer for making her even think about one particular geocentric earth calendar based on the approximate year of Christ's birth.
Treknologist 3 years ago 3
We've postponed the 100th anniversary of World War I to... what... the 21st century?
EmperorJim 3 years ago 2
Sorry, Tranchera. That was a weak one.
BCSWowbagger 3 years ago
i disagree dude. tranchera instead of episode in brief u should do epi-disect-ode in brief. same style as before; just come in at the end and tell us all why its "bullshit" :p
luvyabro
draderman 3 years ago 2
I agree, seeing as though I put hardly any effort into this. The point was just too good to pass up, though. If I do any more of these I'll probably label them as something other than episodes in brief.
Tranchera 3 years ago
Yeah, I'd subscribe to Tranch rant-views.
BCSWowbagger 3 years ago 3
Hahahaha
Poplopo 3 years ago
I can see Star Trek is something you're very passionate about, like me of course, that's why I went to a Convo, geeky I know, to meet George Takei and Robert Picardo.
I was wondering, is that guy a friend or brother and also you have a cool Australian accent.
ok, thats my rant over, you can wake up now.
Buntonatar 3 years ago
He's my uncle.
Tranchera 3 years ago
OK, keep up the good work, and you should do more vids as yourself, you have a good presenting style.
Buntonatar 3 years ago
Sussman should just be ashamed for being associated with both Voyager & Enterprise. I've seen about 10 mins of the ep in question (before switching over out of sheer boredom) It was a total cop out showing The Borg and demonstrated a lack of imagination. They did another one with the Ferengi IIRC, another alien threat supposedly not encountered until TNG. ENT was watchable once they gave it a purpose (season 3 The Xindi) but the first 2 years were shite on a stick.
N0NEoftheAB0VE 3 years ago 2
yeah i agree i was barely able to watch seasons 1 and 2. however i liked season 3 and a lot of season 4. the saddest part is that this series did have potential, if only they had used it the way they should have
BorgHub 3 years ago 2
I hated the whole concept of the Xindi. They sat around episode after episode like cliche evil villains plotting to destroy earth when they had no valid reason to.
And for what? To build up suspense to an event we all knew never actually succeeds...
Enterprise had nothing going for it, thats why they injected stuff from the other series like the borg to liven the show up, yet it always came out "fake".
The worst moment was when the Romulans had a remote controlled holographic ship...
provoko 3 years ago
I like to just eliminate the entire Enterprise series from the startrek storyline.
provoko 3 years ago
You have to remember provoko.. Enterprise took place in an Alternate Timeline because of all the time travel mumbo jumbo. The last episode of Enterprise was the only one that could have possibly been on the actual time line.
BlackKingX 3 years ago
Personally, while the whole Xindi thing was at least something the writers could finally focus on, I didn't like it. The parallels to 9/11 and the whole American political situation was so annoying, they didn't even try to mask it.
Of course being Australian I'm a little more cynical about that. I couldn't take my mind off of it. The last bunch of episodes from season 3 were alright though. Watchable.
Tranchera 3 years ago
I think the Xindi thing was an interesting angle. Star Trek has never really dealt with religious fanatics before, except one-episode stories like the Pah-Wraith cult. I thought the Xindi were compelling villians. They almost worshipped the Sphere-Builders. And then when the truth was revealed, the reptilians, and Commander Dolim in particular, refused to believe it. In reality, they were so devoted to the Guardians because it helped out their agenda. It's a lot like fanatics of any religion.
EmperorJim 3 years ago
If only they'd had some balls and had actually made it relevant to 9/11. Like if the Xindi were religious zealots attacking Earth for religious reasons. They did that episode in season 3 about the suicide bombers who took over the enterprise. The Xindi should have been like them, THAT would have made it interesting. In the original Star Trek, they did an episode about racism by changing it up and making the guys black and white, just mirrored in some. That was when Star Trek meant something.
theinquisitor 3 years ago
2150 + 200 = 2350 = the 24'th century. what exactly is the problem?
BorgHub 3 years ago
It's not a question of maths, it's a question of crappy writing. EVERYONE KNOWS THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT THE 24TH CENTURY, but the writers basically have to cram the point down our throats that they're talking about when Picard meets the Borg... which doesn't make sense anyway because Q introduces them. MORE SHITTY WRITING.
It's another lame attempt by the Enterprise writers to weasel their way into canon.
Tranchera 3 years ago