"The Lost Symbol" - Magic Squares and the Masonic Cipher

[JustJinxed]

Kinda a long winded class, but very informative in practice/application .. Thanks Cuny :)

[mark1138]

Ed Brumgnach? yeah he went to my highschool

[kikebjj]

nice subject but c'mon does he really need to make that pauses???? spit it out!

[bubblebarnacles]

oh....when u said THE LOST SYMBOL in the vid title i thought it was a LOST the series vid literally went through 50 vids and had no idea wat everyone was talking about LMFAO

[khaledb77]

thanks for the information

[MyBulletTV]

FAIL 17:04

[iZuzana]

easy ...

[Stabacs]

His explanation about the origin of the numbers with those inner angles is just wrong and there is no historical evidence, because they looked very different in ancient india. So they could not count the angles like he did. Oh and has the two, like he wrote it, not 4 inner angles?

[GodownEd1]

@Stabacs You're so right. This is folklore. He even draws the "2" wrong and doesn't count all the angles. This is a terrible waste of time.

[redrum41987]

horrible teacher too

[redrum41987]

useless class

[grant953]

Why is he teaching a leason and using wikipedia to get info one the people involved in what he's teaching. Anyone can post anything on wikipedia so its not accurate enough to be used as a legal source for teaching and if it is than it needs to be.

[ShteinbergArts]

thank you gut it!

[ShteinbergArts]

can you please post the website with the squares calculations you using in 12:00 on ....... thank you!



[CUNYQueensborough]

@ShteinbergArts It won't let me post a direct link to your comment, possibly due to anti-spam purposes, but I've updated the video description with it.

[MyThoughtsIhave]

Your history is wrong,,,,

[thedudeBL]

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. --Arthur C Clarke

[VPStream]

I got it: the answer to the universe! A magic square such that S=42 :)

[Mrrrs]

and ehhhh......



[bukowski1950]

4:28 in some magic squares even 4 numbers in the corners have same sum,also 4 "in" numbers,that dont touch sides of the square

[SpandexManney]

MY God! I had this guy as my electronics teacher over 20 years ago! He doesn't look a day older then then! He's a great teacher. Fantastic guy!

[nevyn1]

@SpandexManney that's the weird thing 'bout teachers, they don't age O.o.

[LuciferAmadeus]

I lolled @ "where's the other 2 angle?"

[mrmoss6881]

What a riveting speaker! And I thought the art of oratory was dead.

[Khwartz]

Thanks for this nice and bright lecture professor :)

[squirreljester2]

Wow this guy is retarded, he can't even show us the material... it's like a substitute gym teacher coming in to teach the class physics.

[squirreljester2]

Wow, I'm 30 seconds into this, and I'm thinking "is these horrid jokes going to be a view of things to come in this talk?

[lessavit]

Agreed the first few minutes seems like hes just relaying stuff from online.... not capturing my interest at all

[exorgirl]

)) in america professors freely use wikipedia on lectures! our profs should tell by heart or read from the book or self made notes....

[kaewkaew]

sure its a mathematical square, a cipher square, but nothing really magical about it, its just using good math

[allthingsarelikethis]

@kaewkaew The thing about language is it is a casted spell if used correctly if you just change the word magic and replace it with words like technology.

Just because youi change the name of something does not change the essense of the thing, does it?

[ShabazDraee]

hindastand that in the benjamin franklin magic squares, you end up with pyramides in every way, amazing ain't it, I was led here by the NBC interview of Dan Brown, and by his saying, benjamin and most presidents were Freemasons, and freemasons belived in the all seeing eye on the pyramid.

[lyracrisier]

I just love the dude passing by at 7:25

[diavarezable]

He damn sounds like Jeff Bridges... LOL

[TheClintond]

LOL, this guy sounds drunk. "He's a gentleman... ... ... I assume."

[vcamp1212]

very interesting, if you write the 2 as a Z, it will have the required angles. My maths teachers would be turning in their graves, if they knew I was watching this, I was a poor student of maths.

[JESSER0123]

hey look, why is everywhere else i check this kind of masonic cipher i see? was the prof wrong? check wiki or google it

[JESSER0123]

is this a lecture on school? or a special lecture? kinda interesting if this was taught on school :D

[sarcasticsmileable]

Posting comments should be disabled. Some people obviously cannot seem to comprehend the idea of respecting knowledge.

[snake69420]

the movie he is referring to is wind talkers

[saguanno]

"He is, uhh...... very exciting person." He certainly seems drunk.

[jungasale]

He is drunk ! -.-



[Daihyper]

This is crap !!! Is he paid for talking this shit???

[secret1234567890123]

idiots....THE HINDUS ARE THE ONES THAT INVENTED THE NUMBER SYSTEM.

This stupid professor and all others have so much time on their hands they start analysing the angles of numbers?!?!?! what a laod of crap, no one cares.

People make so much crap up these days, You might aswell have a PHD in bullshit.

[haraldschl]

@secret1234567890123 You have so much time on your hand to watch this that you are calling yourself stupid.

How does someone with this mentality have name like secret@12345.....

You must be paid by government

[FruityCoversLoops]

*has

[FruityCoversLoops]

Number 2 as 4 interior angles... This is crap -.-

[hman111]

he is sooo annoying

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[DeathOwl]

@16:22 where is the other two???!! xD

[rjravaz]

This guys was funny in the beginning

[Fedcop78]

Listen to his accent and you will understand why he understands Freemasonry so well. "Conquer from within" is a concept this professor knows all too well.

[beltonism]

@15:47-17:05 The part on symbols made me play the stop button. Is he making up this internal angle stuff or what? I that case 2,7 = Z, 1,8 = X and 4,5 = Y

[BigKittyVideos]

first joke was kinda lame! lol the way he delivered the pizza joke everyone was like oh crap did he really ate it?

[BigKittyVideos]

first joke was kinda lame! lol

[apocaRUFF]

@BigKittyVideos Eh, it just went over the audiences head. You'd get it if you had a PhD in mathematics. Ask "Mcamoran" about it.

[nibus126]

got strange idea that great pyramid is 3d magic square -)

[alemar1122]

#1 your numbers are wrong 6,9 have the same number of angles, 8 only works as 2 stacked squares but then 0 would logically be 4

#2 you leave out that magic squares also are added by the corners

#3 a 4x4 magic square cant be used as a pig pen cipher as you run out of letters half way through the square (not even counting the X)

[Firewalkerbg]

@alemar1122 on #1 - the numerals weren't always written the way we write them today. They got changed first by the Arabians, then by the Europeans, and kept changing even until today. Did you know, for example, that there is difference between the way the numbers four and seven are written in the US and in Europe?

[OrionKnights]

17:05 laughed my ass off.

[jacobyte100]

Well, yeah, but, what's the point? What's the application? What does this have to do with Masons? So men meeting in secret came up with secret handshakes, secret signs and used silly ciphers? So what? The guy demonstrated some code, stuff I knew about back in the '70's when I was a kid. What's the application? What's the point? He brought nothing to the table. I learned all that in the public library 30+ years ago, on my own, as a small boy. We boys all used the pig-pen cipher with keys.

[amash76]

the number 2 should be written like a Z hence two interior angles (16:30)

[amash76]

the number 2 should be written like a Z hence two interior angles

[irrationalxv]

Pity to see Gandalf so overweight..

[solomonwillaby]

this jew sucks!!!!!!!!

[michaelRafailov]

ahahhahahah such a great joke :->

[willghass]

I'd fall asleap in 30 sec if I really had to listen to this guy.

[gmansilentassassin]

:O Dan brown's book the da Vinci code has made me question some stuff he actually did alot of research before righting the book it's very interesting

[MRBORGHEAD]

33:11 franklin's tower lyrics.

[elysiumx444]

i have never seen number seven written that way, I have seen number one with one line below. thats some major bullshit, inner angles dont work on 4 6 9

[Beldau]

He seems a little bit slow. But doesn't mean his less smart.

[KarySanger]

that guy moans alot.

[Charleslebel88]

I didnt find the msg he was talking about in the description: "If you know about these things AND you can decipher the message below"

Basically that was probly a part of the email he sent to CUNYQueensborough to copy paste in the description. Unfortunatly, the "message below" wasnt copyed and CUNYQueensborough didnt find it important to remove this small part from their description. Come on here, the young gen are trying to keep their youtube clean !

[GaolisVideoLog]

He has a funny way of pronouncing "Dürer". Also, Hungary was part of the German empire back in the days.

[TirianB]

Professor my ass.

[AlphaWolfOverman02]

@TirianB Shut up.

[TirianB]

@AlphaWolfOverman02 Shut up yourself, moron.

[TirianB]

Why the heck does the moron try to explain something when he hasn't done his homework? The thing about the angles in the numbers are correct, but how about preparing himself a bit so he can do it correctly on the blackboard. Not even the number 2 could he draw correctly (it is supposed to look like a Z, with two angles).

This is clearly an amateur with no other purpose than to show off. Just the way he promotes himself and his software, and laughs at other peoples mistakes.

[67CTA14710V]

@TirianB I enjoyed his free presentation and was familiarized with things I otherwise wouldn't have known about. No one is perfect, no reason to be so hard on him.

[MonsterSlayer14]

Theres only 16 letters so you would have to find your 16 letter message before you creat your code? its not like you can make a paragraph of this seceret code unless you did a few 4x4 seceret code boxes next to each other with different codes that add up to different words to say what you wanted to. right?

[MonsterSlayer14]

@MonsterSlayer14 unless you did like a 8x8 or something

[barod1]

Wikipedia FTW 

[zerosun1]

i did a 3x3 4x4 5x5 6x6 7x7 8x8 9x9 magic squares. and the 8x8 is a true one.

[aboody006]

1:44 fucking a keyboard :P

[bambamthankyamaam]

where the fuck is my pizza

[minotarr]

Is he from South park mhmk?

[alphabroly28]

@minotarr LOL word he always sayin mhkay like dat weird dude in south park

[drpool2424]

@mcamron It's you, sir who is wrong. Our modern numerals (as well as many in ancient history) are, to some extent, based on number of strokes. Perhaps you'd do well to do some research first, then comment.

[lty2k84]

Great Guy!--Love the sense of humor and knowledge he offers.

[blabby102]

When he talks about the origin of the way we write numerals by counting their internal angles he is talking bullcrap.

Also, I really don't see the point to this lecture.....

[soundiscomforting]

this is pathetic. not scientific at all

[apocaRUFF]

@soundiscomforting Yes it is. Science covers many, many different topics and themes, not just a few or only one. Very ignorant of you to say such a thing. It shows that you have very little knowledge or wisdom.

[tonicunrest]

dad eat a goat .a goat may eat meat...then sacrafice it :\

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[mcamoran]

For god's shake the Arabic number system was not shaped like this because of the angles that the symbols have. This is totally wrong and not scientific at all, go ask a serious mathematician.

[benettox]

@mcamoran muslim cunt

[mcamoran]

@benettox What an idiot!!!!!!

[apocaRUFF]

@mcamoran You also seem to have very little knowledge of what science is. Science is.... well, just see my other comments on this video. I don't feel like typing it all out again.

[mcamoran]

@apocaRUFF I commented the fact that this teacher said that the shape of the arabic numbers came from the number of angles that the number symbols have. What didn't you understand? Didn't you know that the numbers we have today and the numerical system was invented by the Arabs, even the name "Algebra" is Arabic.

[aboody006]

@mcamoran yep yep look at your hands it has 18 and 81 too ... out of subject

[flash3695]

@mcamoran wikapedia says numbers were hindu but spread by arabs so in the europe and africa we called them arabic numerals. i dont think the angles of the characters have anything to do with the value they represent though, well maybe 1

[5Daniil5]

What would you say, if I'll tell you that nobody knows where numerical, including algebra system, came from? Maya society, knew math before Arabs started to exist. Math, as we know today, was brought by Persians from India to Europe. In fact, Arabs never invented anything in all the history of humanity. But they did collect a Lot of great knowledge from others cultures. That was before they've became Muslims. After what, they've closed their eyes to all knowledge beside Karan.

[boyscout531]

@mcamoran

"The reason they are more commonly known as "Arabic numerals" in Europe and the Americas is that they were introduced to Europe in the 10th century by Arabs of North Africa, who were then using the digits from Libya to Morocco. Europeans did not know about the numerals' origins in ancient India, so they named them "Arabic numerals". Arabs, on the other hand, call the system "Hindu numerals", referring to their origin in India."

[TooChill]

@mcamoran Indeed. Europe's rise out of the dark ages was due to the revival and rediscovery of Arabic scientific and mathematical genius.

[griptimous]

Arabs did not invent the number system. The real inventor of it are the HINDUs from the ancient India. Try to broaden your research with regard to this issue.

[griptimous]

@mcamoran Correction it was not invented by the arabs. The Indians invented the modern number system. It is often called Arabic numerals because it came to Europe through the Arabs. But Arabs themselves call it as "HindSaa" meaning - "given by Hindus or Indians". The Persians copied the Indian number system and then passed it on to the Arabs. Then an Italian mathematician named Fibonacci traveled to Algeria to study. When he came back home, he brought the Indian numerals with him.

[mcamoran]

@griptimous Yes I agree with you, it was introduced by the Arabs, but you have to admit that this numerical system was started being shaped even from the time of Babylon. Other civilizations i.e. the Greek's had other system's to express the same ideas. The Greeks had the Greek alphabet.

[mcamoran]

@griptimous But the shape of the numbers has nothing to do with the number of the angles as stated in this video, this is pseudo-science.

[MrBakaBana]

@mcamoran A slight correction: Even though in the Western world the numerical system we now us were called Arabic numerals because we got them from the Arabs, this system was not invented by Arabs. In fact it was invented in India and through trade was brought to the Arab world.

[MrBakaBana]

The Greek and Roman numerals were fine for day-to-day calculations, but when using complicated calculations involving huge numbers their systems broke down, instead of the Indian decimal system that allowed all kinds of calculations. The concept of "0" or zero, was invented by the Hindus as well and integrated that concept in their numerical system.

[mcamoran]

@MrBakaBana What are you trying to tell? Archimedes the most intelligent mathematician of all times, used the Greek alphabet for his calculation! The Greek and Roman numeral seem tough to use, because we are used to the "arabic" numeral system!

[Twiglaser]

@mcamoran As an Arabic person, I confirm your fact.

[binoyrakesh]

@mcamoran

the "Arabic" numerals as a matter of fact, were Invented in guess where, NOT in the Arab world, but in South Asia !!

Before you start arguing, go look it up any where in any credible source. Thanks.

[mcamoran]

@binoyrakesh Ok but it has nothing to do with the angles as stated in the video!

[smuralisankar]

@mcamoran That's wrong. The number system was not invented by the arabs. It was taken from India / hinduism by the arabs to the middle east from where it spread to the west.

[protestantsep]

@smuralisankar Actually it was the Asians who first learned of 'magic squares' from the belly of a turtle...but to be more precise, any forbidden knowledge was first obtained in the garden of Eden,,,,from the Serpent to the Woman, the first earthly deity...having become enlightened and 'equal to a god' and stll calls the shots from her Capitols namely Indianapolis and Washingtonl

[ChazeQ]

@protestantsep

Actually no, because that's just fiction and any sane, non-brainwashed human being doesn't actually believe in such bullshit.

[attilaclark]

@mcamoran The number system came from INdia who had an overstanding of zero and could do complicated math. Like atonement. At ONE ment. They passed it on to Arabs , then to the Roma who had no idea about zero.

This is my research. Before them I don't know where the Aryans In India got it from.

[mcamoran]

@apocaRUFF I hold a Phd in mathematics!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am a scientist.

[speedproductions797]

wow, cool code

[vassog]

very interesting! thanks for sharing.

[benettox]

@vassog lost me at 1

[benettox]

@benettox actually i watched the rest, this guy is good

[baalisgod666]

lost me at two minutes.

[cowwboyfromhell]

the movie he's talking about is "wind talkers"

[ezequiasrocha]

Very nice video. Where to find out more from the same professor?

[SirRampautus]

Its just a bigger sudoku :S

[marcarmstrong88]

wow, i take it people paid to hear this talk. wot a tonne of pointless crap.

[Fapsamup]

Really great to see a professor using Wikipedia to back up his theories...

[Marcuzoz]

@Fapsamup

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Hes showing some picturs, not taking fact straight away.

Derp

[lacerta999]

@Fapsamup More like using his theories to backup wikipedia.. BOOM... Mind fuck,

[UND34DC0WZ]

@lacerta999

wikipedia is a mind fuck

[b0ondockz]

@Fapsamup So everything on Wikipedia is completely wrong?

[Fapsamup]

@b0ondockz I didn't say that. I only said that using Wikipedia as reference when you are a professor is pretty lame. You have tons of books written by professionals who could illustrate your theories, but then you take wikipedia as example. It is an insult to those who wrote those great books and it is an insult to the viewer, thinking that he doesn't know any books.

[jacobyte100]

@Fapsamup It's perfectly fine to use Wikipedia for simple reference. He wasn't give a study of Durer, just making reference to him. Wikipedia is fine for surface glancing. Surely, if you want concrete, by all means delve deeper, but the dissertation was on the codes themselves - not the dude. I totally agree that Wikipedia isn't reliable for true research, but you can use it casually, just as in this case. It had the proper picture of the magic box, anyway.

[jacobyte100]

@b0ondockz said, "So everything on Wikipedia is completely wrong?" Well, how about: nothing in Wikipedia is completely true. Does that help? Use it like a "Trivial Pursuit" game. Wikipedia is great for entertainment, hours of wasted time gleaning worthless tidbids about nothing. Celebs and popstars, and you can easily find out State Capitals and stuff too. Wikipedia is fluff and nothing more. Use it casually and you'll be fine. But take care not to appear a fool and use it in serious research.

[b0ondockz]

@jacobyte100 There are many things on Wikipedia that are completely true. There is a lot of information on Wikipedia that is taken from "serious research". Many sources of information, including those not on Wikipedia, contain error. For purposes such as showing who Albrecht Durer is, it's more than sufficient. If that is your idea of serious research, then adding a child's encyclopedia to one's library should contain the proper amount of information needed to carry such research out.

[spacenoise5]

@Fapsamup because Wikia is awesome!

[spiderliam]

@Fapsamup Not really. A website containing information which is free to be edited by anyone at any time can not officially be academically viable. Not everything on wikipedia is fact.

[Warfresco]

Wikipedia...

[DarkKnightBob1o1]

i'll stick with base 10 and matrices thanks ROFL!

[ventureelect]

WHAT THE HELL IS UP WITH THE VOCALIZATION

[benzie13]

@ventureelect LOL

[GhostInTheShell09]

the number '2' as drawn would have four interior angles

[mathfreak87]

@GhostInTheShell09 the real ancient 2 is "Z"



[888esar]

multiply each value in square by 3 and add digits of answer together e.g 3x4=12, 1+2 = 3 you should only get 3, 6, or 9, now redo magic square replacing with 3 6 or 9 and join the dots u will eventually get the star of david 666 888 knights templar cross the value 216 also known as the holy of holies u will also get the owl plus much much more have fun

[chifoone]

洛書跟 windtalkers 都出現了.

[voidows]

Nice presentation. But i make up in your presentation that you CAN NOT brake the code WITHOUT the magic key word ??

is that correct, then how did anybody ever deciphor it?

[brumbrumbrum123]

God observation.

No one could decipher the message because they did not know the key word. They had to come to the lecture to find out what key word I used.

Ed