Once more, you claim to expose atheism but concentratie on evolution. There is no direct/compulsory relationship between evolution and atheism. It's true to say, however, that the bulk of atheists accept the theory of evolution, as do the extremely high %age of scientists, particularly biologists. It is the best option that explains the variety of life in this world.
In the absence of the ToE, it is folly to simply insert 'goddidit'. .Get ready for the effective debunking that's coming to you.
What else is an atheist going to put their faith in? Everyone put's their faith in something. What do you put your faith in? In men? Men have corrupt and have wicked hearts.
@Scolopacid You are wrong. Religion does exist. There is Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, Hinduism, and eve Atheism. Jesus Christ is not a religion. He is the True Living God who is very personal, not religious.
@ironmonkeypalm Yes, I agree, religion does exist, I am not arguing that. What I said was, free will does not exist, this is almost nearly definitively shown by psychological neuroscience. Without free will doesn't the structure of almost all supernatural faith become obsolete?
@Scolopacid How do you know? I'm not saying it does or it doesn't. Science can not explain morality, hate, love, life's purpose. They could never create something intelligent. If you believe man is a god and create all what you see and know, you are really fooling yourself. We can only discover what God has made, and yet we know so very little. Believe in God, not men.
@Scolopacid Can only explain and discover what already is and yet humans yet no so little. Can you solve all the worlds problems??? Can you create AI??? I'm sorry, but you are not a god.
"Just because you have faith in something, doesn't mean everybody does."
you have faith that your sense perception is working correctly, from an atheistic worldview you require alot of faith, but unintentional world views of how we came into being provide no justification for that faith, you are stepping outside of logic to hold to atheism and trust your sense perception at the same time , a period of introspection will you do good dude.
No I wasn't. I was schooled in the corrupt school system to believe in lies. It would of been nice if I was home schooled.
No one is here forever. It's a nice happiness to put your hope in those things. If another country was to come and conquer and take your family and friends or a tornado. Where would your hope be than?
Putting your hope in the creature and not the creator is not wise thing to do.
You never told a lie? Lusted? Hated? Blasphemed? Cursed?
"I put my 'faith' in ME and my wife and my family and my friends.
I do not have a corrupt and wicked heart but, according to you, you could well have. Certainly your mind is corrupted. Home-schooled"
draagon how could you make moral judgements of anyone, lol, nature is non normative, there is no platform for morality for you dude, and if you do have morality then it is man made which is relative morality, relative morality means you have no grounds to judge others, epic fail dude.
The big bang was not an explosion as you think of it. It was an expansion.
Such simple reasoning from you shows your lack of understanding.
Clearly, you need to be educated and not by creationist material. Kent Hovind and Ken Ham are NOT reliable teachers.
draagon66 3 years ago 16
An expansion from what? Why did it form to a complex system to provide life on earth? Any miscalculation of the sun or the moon would be disastrous.
Do you really believe the fairy tales they teach you at school?
It just magically expanded from a dot the size of this .
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago
@draagon66 Expansion from what?
ironmonkeypalm 1 year ago
@draagon66 Believing in men will only damn you. I'm just point you to Christ.
ironmonkeypalm 1 year ago
Once more, you claim to expose atheism but concentratie on evolution. There is no direct/compulsory relationship between evolution and atheism. It's true to say, however, that the bulk of atheists accept the theory of evolution, as do the extremely high %age of scientists, particularly biologists. It is the best option that explains the variety of life in this world.
In the absence of the ToE, it is folly to simply insert 'goddidit'. .Get ready for the effective debunking that's coming to you.
draagon66 3 years ago
What else is an atheist going to put their faith in? Everyone put's their faith in something. What do you put your faith in? In men? Men have corrupt and have wicked hearts.
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago
Just because you have faith in something, doesn't mean everybody does.
I don't have faith in anything. That is to say that, I don't believe things without evidence.
Why do you assume faith is a necessary component of life?
danillum 3 years ago
It is necessary. Without it...it's the second death. Hell fire.
God has given all the evidence you need. You just choose to be willingly ignorant and blind. God even promises you can know Him.
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago
@ironmonkeypalm
Been there, dealt with it, never happened. Its all bullshit. Religion has been demolished, you are blind. Free will does not exist.
Scolopacid 1 year ago
@Scolopacid You are wrong. Religion does exist. There is Islam, Catholicism, Mormonism, Hinduism, and eve Atheism. Jesus Christ is not a religion. He is the True Living God who is very personal, not religious.
ironmonkeypalm 1 year ago
@ironmonkeypalm Yes, I agree, religion does exist, I am not arguing that. What I said was, free will does not exist, this is almost nearly definitively shown by psychological neuroscience. Without free will doesn't the structure of almost all supernatural faith become obsolete?
Scolopacid 1 year ago
@Scolopacid How do you know? I'm not saying it does or it doesn't. Science can not explain morality, hate, love, life's purpose. They could never create something intelligent. If you believe man is a god and create all what you see and know, you are really fooling yourself. We can only discover what God has made, and yet we know so very little. Believe in God, not men.
ironmonkeypalm 1 year ago
@ironmonkeypalm science will soon be able explain morality, love and hate, where have you been, in many ways it already has.
Scolopacid 1 year ago
@Scolopacid Can only explain and discover what already is and yet humans yet no so little. Can you solve all the worlds problems??? Can you create AI??? I'm sorry, but you are not a god.
ironmonkeypalm 1 year ago
"Just because you have faith in something, doesn't mean everybody does."
you have faith that your sense perception is working correctly, from an atheistic worldview you require alot of faith, but unintentional world views of how we came into being provide no justification for that faith, you are stepping outside of logic to hold to atheism and trust your sense perception at the same time , a period of introspection will you do good dude.
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ProudToBLoud 3 years ago
I put my 'faith' in ME and my wife and my family and my friends.
I do not have a corrupt and wicked heart but, according to you, you could well have. Certainly your mind is corrupted. Home-schooled?
draagon66 3 years ago 5
No I wasn't. I was schooled in the corrupt school system to believe in lies. It would of been nice if I was home schooled.
No one is here forever. It's a nice happiness to put your hope in those things. If another country was to come and conquer and take your family and friends or a tornado. Where would your hope be than?
Putting your hope in the creature and not the creator is not wise thing to do.
You never told a lie? Lusted? Hated? Blasphemed? Cursed?
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago
"I put my 'faith' in ME and my wife and my family and my friends.
I do not have a corrupt and wicked heart but, according to you, you could well have. Certainly your mind is corrupted. Home-schooled"
draagon how could you make moral judgements of anyone, lol, nature is non normative, there is no platform for morality for you dude, and if you do have morality then it is man made which is relative morality, relative morality means you have no grounds to judge others, epic fail dude.
ProudToBLoud 3 years ago
Straw man.
The big bang theory doesn't say we came from nothing.
danillum 3 years ago
What does it say? Why and How did it even form?
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago
Asking why it formed is a loaded question. Why do you think there is a why?
danillum 3 years ago
And why do you think explosions produce complex systems?
You think putting a bomb in a car will produce two cars....maybe a house....or a horse?
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago
Energy and/or matter.
More research necessary for you, methinks.
draagon66 3 years ago 8
Where did matter come from?
Where did the laws of the uni-verse come from? (Gravity, Inertia, Thermodynamics etc)
How did matter get so perfectly organised?
Where did the energy come from to do all that organizing?
ironmonkeypalm 3 years ago