Battlefield 3 870MCS Shotgun - With Flachettes

[MinecraftJazxx3]

Does the explosive specialization work on shotgun frags?

[BVickers5]

@terminox you sir are a legend! You've earned a sub an a like :)

[ratinthecat2]

im totally rolling with flechette now

[giovcarlnico]

you're a big play A BATTLEFIELD 3 phenomenal!

[2B4LL7]

*BANG* *BANG* BRUH DONT RUN FROM THIS, just TAKE IT!!! *BANG* BANG*

[rocksygti]

what the fuck is up with the aa-12 when people shoot at me with that its like a tank shootin at me.

[SpringfieldEditting]

And still i find it quite retarded how it still takes 2 shots to kill people over a pretty normal range. (15meters).

[Jords464]

What's better, buck or flechette? Regarding kill shots at range and killing large groups or enemies.

[terminox]

@Jords464 Flachettes, EASILY. The buckshot is only effective at extremely close ranges, and by that I mean pretty much point-blank range. The Flachettes do more than enough damage at point-blank for the all-important 1-hit-kill, making the buckshot to be kind of pointless. Plus, flachettes they can penetrate thin surfaces and other players, making them a real 'crowd pleaser'.

[0Tanker0]

@terminox I actually find buckshot much more effective close range, but flechettes are certainly more effective against clusters and at longer ranges.

[terminox]

@0Tanker0 Well I find that the flachettes tend to one-shot people at the kind of ranges where buckshot is supposed to be most effective, making them kind of useless. You may as well roll flachettes for the added range and penetration.

[MrYauyin]

At 1:12 what map is that?

[JustMe111094]

@MrYauyin Operation Metro

[mnyeav]

ESCOPETA !!

[xDrickk]

aiming is honestly a little bad but gameplay is still good

[terminox]

@xDrickk Yeah the beta didn't run too well when I recorded this, so I was playing a bit like shit.

[kiwi3053]

pretty good what is the diffrence between diffrent bullets or shells

[GrandmasSaggyAssTits]

respect to you and the underrated weapon 870MCS

[anxietyfreedom]

Nice video, going up on my Blog to show to my subscribers, should get some great feedback

[terminox]

@anxietyfreedom cheers mate. I appreciate all feedback and love everyone who shares my vids' long time.

[ayan3261]

does shotguns have different shotguns have different damage or is it all in the ammo?? ie. 870 with buckshot and m1014 with buck shot, do they deal the same damage?

[Bernieo153]

@ayan3261 Dude, damage does not depend on the gun, it depends on the shell. However, some factors do depend on the gun, if the barrel is long, you have a tighter spread, wich means if you aim in the center of what your shooting at gets all the buckshot into the target, dealing extreme damage, a shorter barrel means a much bigger spread, easier to hit, but crap at longer range. The M1014 in BF3 has open choke wich gives a bigger spread. 870 MCS is better for longer distance.

[DGAMFBF3]

you dont use your knife much do you

[VMcNab]

Ok, i know its just a game. But that soldier's sholder has GOT to hurt from shooting a shotgun that many times.

[kamikrazycanadian]

shotgun kills are def the most satisfying

[Asgeir91]

870 is awesome at CQB !! but sooooo mutch better in beta....

[wtfdudenotcool101]

@Asgeir91 Because they nearly doubled the health from the beta...

[TheBlumKings]

The only reason to use slugs in my opinion is to shotgun snipe with a 6x rifle scope

[terminox]

@TheBlumKings I haven't tried this, because the idea seems impractical, given how low the slug velocity is now. Have you had any success with this combination?

[BasementBeginnings]

@terminox It's pretty practical, actually. I find it useful as a designated marksman rifle rather than a full-on sniper rifle, and it can get the job done.

[Bernieo153]

@terminox I had very good success with slugs in the beta, they were 1 shot kills at almost all ranges, but they are extremely nerfed to the point now that they are pretty much impossible to do well with.

[03Z400RIDER]

@TheBlumKings hahaha have u ever tried it cause it's pretty fun and is actually pretty good once u get use to it :)

[parkourdude100]

are you sure the range is actually extended stats-wise or are you just going on feel?

[SerenGetter]

@parkourdude100

The flechette have been confirmed for a tighter spread compared to buckshot, thus better range than buckshot.

The damage drop-off at range is also less in flechette than buckshot.

Buckshot might be better for the Semi-Autos, but Flechette is better for the 870

[Daemeon93]

What's the difference between the shell types?

[terminox]

@Daemeon93 *Buckshot*: Extreme close-range pellets. High point-blank damage, but crap accuracy and damage beyond about 5 meters. *Flachettes* Like buckshot, but with less point-blank damage and significantly more range. *Slugs* Just like BC2's, but nerfed, damage-wise, with a low velocity and dramatic drop at range. *Frag* crap-tastic damage but with high suppression i.e. still crap.

[aquadax1]

@terminox frags will probobly be used on small vehicles like atvs

[terminox]

@aquadax1 I was hoping that was the case, but it's not to be. They are intended to be oriented towards suppression. Good news for you though - the 40mm grenade launchers are FINALLY getting anti-vehicle variants, although probably at the expense of area-effect damage. Not that it matters though - the 40mm grenades have been nerfed quite harshly as far as infantry targets go.

[BloodDraco122]

@terminox I've found there was a bug in the game that the dev's were gonna fix, Frags were supposed to do very slight (between 1-10) explosive damage and have a very small AoE. Frags actually work fantastically well in the Striker and USAS-12 and from my experience, you can easily shoot out the people in transports with Frags like the Growler and Scout and Transport Heli's, ya know if you get a chance to

[bendikn]

@terminox Flechettes*

[SpecialOperations]

870 MCS + HoLOLsight = OP

[Qjemuse]

hmmm i've heard mixed views about the flachettes. many said just stick with the buckshot.

but i been getting frustrated about the hit detection fail on shotguns. shotguns failed on me on bfbc2 too. :(

[terminox]

@Qjemuse The flachettes almost always 1-shot people at very close range, which makes the loss of range in return for the buck-shot's surplus stopping power not at all worth it if you ask me.

[jrnero2]

ummm bro what does the mine do in the beta?

[terminox]

@jrnero2 You mean the anti vehicle mine? Nothing at the moment. You can place them down, but there's no vehicles for them to kill. At the moment, they can't be detonated with other explosives either. The exception to this might be if someone tried driving an EOD bot over one, but how likely is that?

[JohnHDftw]

The 870 is awesome. If you play to it's strength you're almost unbeatable.

[oBLACKIECHANoo]

@Ninja7545 HAHAHAHA Please, you moronic fuck, I own on BF3, I can easily go 30-5 in every game while playing the objective. I use the shotgun alot with flachettes and I know how OP they are. If you deny that then you're a moron. From A to the entrance to the subway I can 2-3 shot people, pretty much anywhere important in the subway the gun will 1 shot. And I do need to "slag on" (whatever that means) DICE, because they also added prone, flashlights and use pre-alpha as a beta.

[terminox]

@oBLACKIECHANoo The only really OP weapons are the PDWs. The PP2000 is a bit of a joke, but the UMP was ridiculous in the beta. The shotguns are pretty balanced this time around, if you ask me.

[oBLACKIECHANoo]

@Ninja7545 You need to learn to read and understand sarcasm. Untill then, don't reply/

[killer1595]

@oBLACKIECHANoo and you need to learn that you cant read sarcasm... how can you fucking read your implied meaning?.... well unless it was :sarcasm: your a tit burger!.... i suppose your right, oh well i give up on this pointless comment and from now on make a new law that everyone should either put :sarcasm: :troll: or :emo: in front of there appropriate post

[oBLACKIECHANoo]

@killer1595 Actually, when I spell words like they are being said by a 12yr old with a lisp, you can.

[sweetxix]

nice video man and thumbs up. and for those who keeps saying that slugs are over powered i dare you to use them, its not as easy as it looks when you actually use them, even in bfbc2 slugs is so inconsistent in killing a 1 shot kill if you miss or didn't kill in 1 shot you'll definitely die.

[oBLACKIECHANoo]

Players : Slugs are OP, their range is realistic but far too much for a video game

Dice; Derp, hehehe, wets pwut swugs in the gwame agwen, we will bwee so cool. They are so bwalanced

[terminox]

@oBLACKIECHANoo Really? I've tried the slugs, and I found that the flachettes are much better. I don't think the slugs can 1-hit body kill anymore at close range, and they've been insanely nerfed at long range.

[oBLACKIECHANoo]

@terminox There is slugs in BF3 ? I thought flahettes were slugs? But they are still pretty OP judging by this and a few other videos. The different ammo for the shotgun is all over the place. These are OP, the frags are useless, etc etc. I hope they manage to actually balance them.

[FrostyAUT]

Nice video! Flechette shells really seem to be more useful than buckshot ...

I see you unlocked frag shells in this video, could you make a video with those?

[terminox]

@FrostyAUT IMO the frag shells are gimped. I tried them, but it wasn't worth the effort. they do less damage, and are less accurate than all the other shot types. The only advantage to them is that they have decent suppression capabilities (whoopady-doo). I'll create a video of them though - just for you.