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  • so you would think that 6 months prior a sale was a sale the charge went thru. but I guess they held the money and I didnt notice it. NOT.. Of course i saw the funds probably withdrew. I am not sure what happened but it is unfair and as for BBB well people can BUY a rating from those crooks. Look it up you can buy a perfect BBB rating. that was on the news. Who can we use other than Paypal and ebay?

  • 6 months ago a person bought a dress from me it was in June 2011. ok week of Christmas 2011 I got a email stating something like please provide more info on this item because it was an unauthorized charge. Well they send so much junk from pp so i didnt even see it. then i saw that someone was refunded money then i went thru all the emails like 100 of them and found the one where they gave me like 10 days to answer. LOL i didnt know that could happen. i lost dress, fees, and money. so not fair

  • My phone conversation with paypal customer service ten minutes ago.ME- "If im instantly paid for items ive sold with the shipping prices included, and then im not allowed access to that money, but im required to ship the item and receive a positive feedback score before my funds are released,then how the fuck am I supposed to pay for the shipping"? PAYPAL- Well maybe you could just put it on a credit card. ME- "Ummmmm what"? PAYPAL- Yes sir im sorry drrrrrrrr. ME- "WTF" PAYPAL- Have a nice day!

  • I no longer sell on Ebay after 10 years. I am totally disgusted with them.

  • Im a Power seller with a 99.7 feedback ratiing and they are holding my funds because I dont offer free shipping and I have 4 low DSR's. I mainly sell heavy vintage electronics so I cant offer free shipping

  • Fuck ebay n paypal...timeframe too damn long thats fucking ridiculous

  • I had this happen first last year, once. 21 day hold. I was surprised. Now this year.. this past month..I reached 300 postivie feedback, 1 false negative, my star rating ALMOST perfect..4.8's and 5's.. 2 customers in 2 months gave me 1 Star LOWER for shipping time. NOW EVERY FUCKING THING I SELL (the last 8 items) ARE HELD FOR 21 days.. I use that money to PAY FOR MY SHIPPING LABELS AND NOW THEY PUT ME AT DOUBLE RISK- NO MONEY AND NO WAY TO SHIP THROUGH CANADA POST.. EVIL AND I'M GOING TO QUIT.

  • @oatstao I hear you. I called up the motherfuckers at paypal and I was like "How the fuck do you expect me to get shipments if you are holding onto the money? I need that money to mail out the items" PAYPAL,"You need to have some money set aside to mail out your items". ME, "Well I need the fucking funds before the end of the month to pay off my credit card bill and if you don't do that then you are fucking up both my business and my credit rating"....

  • @oatstao But so far no major problems as I've had all of my customers receive their items, left me positive feedback, and then I was able to deposit the money into my bank account after 21 days for each transaction. Also, I don't sell high-valued items and therefore I'm not really worried about being scammed with paypal.

  • PAYPAL CAN EAT A BIG DICK. SO GAY. KARMA WILL GET THEM ONCE SQUARE SERVICES TAKE OVER. SERVES THEM RIGHT!

  • I created a peitition to help get this stopped PayPal has been holding my funds for 3 months now. They have $1000.00 of my hard earned money it is now the holidays and I can't even buy presents for my friends or family I can't even pay my phone bill this needs to be stopped! Please sign this petiton and let everyone know what a horrible affect paypal is having on its members.

    I've also already filed for a class action suit.

  • h t t p : / / t . c o / p w a E N t c d

  • @MrBellanocturnal sign me up for the law suit

  • paypal can eat a dick.

  • I have 2292 feedbacks 99.3 positive. Since I would not give a buyer a partial refund he gave me neg. feedback and a few others gave me lower description rateing through the year. Ebay is holding my funds until the person recieves the item then 3 days after i get my money.Iam a tradeing assistant. Ebay isnt holding my money they are holding my clients money. I had to ship out 5 items the other day and no money in Paypal to do so.So im sure ill get lower feedback score for slow shipping.

  • @terryheintz

    I had a perfect 100% rating and I think about 6 or 7 years worth of happy and RETURNING customers. They simply made it impossible to do business by holding funds. Fuck them. They grab control of your actual checking account! You really need to get away from them if you can, ...they won't close your account. Trust me, do whatever you can now, before they steal you blind,and they will. They can, and they will. Sorry.

  • I JUST TRIED THIS AND IT DOE NOT WORK

  • I bet they charge there fee before the mkney gets put on hold

  • Did not work...

  • @MeganYosuke You can't read either.

  • I think we should class action lawsuit eBay and PayPal. I've been screwed over by a few buyers myself.

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  • fuckers just want to make money in interest....your money....send the fuckers a bill for interest....a good 40% seems fair

  • I think something fraudulent is happening to the funds being held up!! 21 days, can you imagine all the accounts that get held up? That is a lot of money sitting somewhere! I say boycott Paypal. We need to fight this!!!!!!!!!!! What merchant would give a product first, then ask you for the money only if you are satisfied! I ask the customer service agent if they review her service first then give her the paycheck after.

  • I hate paypal customer service. I called about a hold and they told me some bullcrap about the item possibly being a bootleg or copy of some sort and I have to wait to get the funds. I asked if I buy from ebay, i have to pay first then I can get the item. What is happening to the funds? Gaining interest in their bank? I think there should be an investigation into how they are placing actual cash into some sort of hidden account gaining interest. And the worst part, their customer service sucks

  • i just got screwed out of 300 dollars so now paypal and ebay can officially kiss my ass.. im closing my bank account thats connected to my paypal i feel as though ive paid my dues to these bitches so if they try to steal my fees they wont get shit. im going to tell my bank someone hacked my paypal and i want my bank account closed so for now they cant screw me no more and they can no longer steal my money i think ive made them abot 1k between both my accounts and they dont do shit but screw you

  • Without buyers EBAY is nothing so of course they have to protect them... believe me when you buy something on ebay and the seller disapears with your money which happend often before this 21 day hold ebay was losing customers. Plus if ur tracking shows delivery u get ur money 3 days after or if the buyer leaves positive feedback you get ur money. Thats why sellers should leave feedback first which is rare but it increases ur chances of getting feedback back and realising the funds.

  • @otero916

    The last time I sold and item on ebay they held my money even after I received positive feedback.

    I had an ebay account for over ten years with about 200 transactions, all with positive feedback and they did that to me, and then continued holding my funds after the buyer gave positive feedback. Screw ebay, I'll never use it again. And I canceled my Paypal account too.

  • Does this actually work?

  • @IN160991

    NOPE

  • Paypal sucks end of discussion sent money from 1 of my accounts to the other to get a check and they put the money on hold

  • @FunktasticFour20 Ebay is just a thing of that past, it's a 90's thing. I'm surprised people still use it. You can buy items cheaper from Amazon.com

  • FFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUCKKKKKKKKKKKK­ PAYPALLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!!!!!!!!

  • Ebay is a massive con with zero customer service. Once again ive been bent over the counter of ebay and shafted. Read the below e-mail from ebay: comes in two sections.

    Final decision:

    Neither you nor the buyer were found to be at fault.

    >>

    We reviewed the case and issued the buyer a refund of £56.00. The refund includes the purchase price plus the original cost of postage & packaging.

    This case is now closed, and you don't need to do anything else.

    Nor did they act on his threatening e-mails

  • @Glendale1835 Best thing for people to do is not use Paypal or Ebay. When Paypal starts doing business like a regular bank I might think about using them again, until then, they are worthless.

  • I tried the 1 cent refund and it doesnt work. They must have closed the loophole.

  • its paypiss

  • fuck you paypal.

  • This Cheap Trick no longer works!!

    It sucks trying to explain to a buyer why you are refunding a payment & then sending a new invoice! (the new way round FYI) will look suspect I think!? Why do ppl bum E-GAY & GAY-PAL so much?? they are sucky PROBABLY ILLEGAL systems! some one needs to take them to court!!

  • hey does this work? som1 get back to me

  • Paypal is holding 20 percent of my money, no reason why as I am a powerseller, top-rated seller, trained by eBay education specialist and trading assistant. What choice do I have now???

  • @Joymoon As much as it hurts, people need to stop using paypal and use an alternative payment solution. ProPay is one I have used in the past. They also favor sellers over buyers, since it is mainly a business oriented payment solution.

  • lol i fucking hate this im trying to get past holding these damn gay paymentss i cant buyshit i need

  • Yes they're protecting the buyers, but also the sellers are getting screwed. It's like the scammers that used to be the sellers are now all the buyers. Sellers have more to lose than anyone. God I wish there was an alternative to Fudgebay that was as popular.

  • this is such bullshit. if someone doesn't want to pay right away for an item then they shouldn't bid on it. fuck paypal. its not their business to "protect" people. their only responsibility is to give me my fucking money. this new policy is a total failure and people hate it.

  • Then believe in Paypal

  • According to PayPal's policy, 21 days holding money is to ensure that buyer have a choice to file for an automatic refund whether the seller ship the product or not, or whether buyer receive the product or not. That's not a real dispute. A real dispute start within 45 days after the seller receives the payment in the bank and after the buyer receives the product. And if something goes wrong, the dispute is used for seller to solve what goes wrong. And if it fails, then he refund the money.

  • Paypal is best payment system in the world. We should respect them. They hold money for 21 days for our safety as paypal is a secure payment system. They want to protect us.

  • @qazisw LOL

  • @qazisw What if I don't believe in god?

  • @beast6228 Then believe in Paypal they are best

  • @qazisw According to PayPal's policy, 21 days holding money is to ensure that buyer have a choice to file for an automatic refund whether the seller ship the product or not, or whether buyer receive the product or not. That's not a real dispute. A real dispute start within 45 days after the seller receives the payment in the bank and after the buyer receives the product. So the 21 days hold will not reduce scammers and fraudlent. It's paypal that is telling you how you can get your money.

  • i just sent the refund and nothing happened its still the same just lost a penny thanks alot lol

  • did work and i lost one penny

  • Do they hold fund just on ebay payments? what about if my friend sends me money, will they hold that?

  • @ilikebeertoo If a friend sends you money you'll be fine. They only do it when you sell an item on ebay.

  • @beast6228 thanks beast6228

  • @beast6228 depending on the amount they can freeze your money or account for any reason they think is questionable.. If you send a friend $1000 paypal will immediately stop that money from going through even if it's a "GIFT" and investigate.. they can sometimes hold money for as much as 6 months if they think its fraudulent.. their system is designed to automatically assume you're paying for an eBay transaction which will cause this. Be very careful with PP, usually their reps don't help much..

  • @ilikebeertoo not true, a friend sent me money and they held it for 60 days.

  • Do they hold fund just on ebay payments? what about if my friend sends me money, will they hold that?

  • why paypal i dont like wating plus i own someone i got 2 days too pay or the service cancels my service i cant wait 21 days

  • screw ebay and screw paypal harder!

  • Yeah this is complete bullshit. It makes it easier for the buyer to scam the seller. But does paypal care? Of course not, because they're making money off it. I found this out today, and it'll be my last item I sell on Ebay. I also heard some angry Paypal customers contacting their lawyers about this. I hope they shut the scammers down.

  • Ebay is not secure for sellers. I can buy something on ebay, receive it in the mail. Open a paypal claim and get my money back regardless if there is a problem with it or not. All I have to do is say it doesn't work. Bingo, refund. I quit selling on ebay a long time ago.

  • Yeah Ebay and Paypal are making huge mistakes. I wish I would have known that before I put my item on Ebay.

  • i just did this lets see if it works

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  • they claim its to prevent theft and all that $hit no that's bull if they hold OUR money for 21 days in there account that's millions and millions of dollars there making interest on from a bank its a way for them to hold onto our money for longer to get money out of it its all business and paypal and ebay are doing it the wrong way cheap shot

  • eBay & Paypal must have greased the right palms to get away with this monopoly. I quit selling stuff once they stopped allowing Postal money orders.

  • Yeah they sure did, now all they protect are crooks and thieves. They put a stop to Postal money orders because they weren't getting their outrageous cut on fees. I hope Ebay and Paypal either go out of business or get sued someday. Just think about this for a sec. Paypal is supposed to be a bank more or less. Imagine what would happen if your personal bank was screwing people over like Paypal does....

  • i'm sorry, but we r WAY PAST the opportunity for boycott. eBay used to be such a small n cute company, n right when corporate bought em i boycotted them. i expected mY friends to join me so that we can have our old eBay back, but nO.

    all u fucks supported them. this was 10 yrs ago. this is what u get. screw all of u.

    and ALL of u who joined paypal too!

  • boycott these motherfukers.... thats it problem solved.

  • The 21 days hold on your money policy SUCKS!

    The buyer have your item and you have nothing but to wait for them to lleave feesback for you. lt's painfully slow!

    l need to pay bills paypal!

    They can have your item for 21 days turn around and deside to return it back. Pray that it not broken otherwise you might get stuck with a much less valued item.

    Whos the looser? YOU

    Whos the winner? The buyer&PAYPAL

    Who profits from it? EBay.

    Buy and sell your goods at iOFFER

  • Ebay totally favours the buyer and not the seller - i sold a 32gb itouch and i was given a chargeback and lost my item

  • For sure!

  • yeah and now when i sell items i wait 20 days before posting but i get messages saying i don't have the items and i'm scamming them

  • Make sure when you sell items to ships ALL items with signature and delivery confirmation.

  • I no longer sell on Ebay, I was registered since 1998 and have sold hundreds, if not thousands of items over the years. It was a great place back when it first started. Then Ebay got greedy and started to changed their prices and policies. Now it's virtually a waste of time and money to sell on here. After Ebay gets their cut, you lose money. Plus Paypal gets their cut too. The seller is the real loser. I suggest selling on Craigslist or through your local newspaper or classified ads.

  • @beast6228 Unfortunately, craigslist is owned by ebay.

  • @researchologist Yes, but they don't charge you to places ads on there.

  • This didn't work for me

  • It doesn't work anymore, PayPal patched the glitch and made things worse.

  • man this sucks. I sold my computer for $999 so i could buy a macbook before i went to texas! now i have to wait who knows how long. Pay Pal SUCKS

  • I feel for you man, you have to wait for the buyer to get their item and then you have to wait for them to give you feedback. Plus if you don't have the money to ship, it really sucks. Make sure you send the item with tracking and signature required for delivery, it helps speed up the process.

  • Yeah . I had to ship directly through UPS too because it was my first time using PayPal. And yeah I definately used tracking and required a signature

  • @beast6228 That's not what the 21 day hold policy is for. The 21 day hold policy is let buyer file a dispute and tells you how you can get your money whether or not you sell your product or whether or not the buyer receive it. So It really doesn't matter if anything goes wrong. See, PayPal don't care. All they care about is your money. PayPal is a middleman between you and your bank and that's exactly what PayPal is.

  • buy&sell your stuff at: iOFFER

  • tell your stories at paypalblows dot---org

  • Didnt work for me, paypal probably saw this and fixed it. They watch this stuff like hawks. Seriously they are the biggest crooks ever born

  • I have no need for paypal now, but luckily during the time this worked for me I was able to get over $2000 dollars instantly from paypal without waiting. There are other alternatives to paypal, like Propay which I use, they are more on the side of sellers too, unlike paypal which is on the side of buyers more than anything.

  • Yup, i did it too and it DOES NOT WORK =(, oh well, let us continue being screwed by paypal.

  • The last time it worked for me was about 3 weeks ago, haven't tried it since. I figured sooner or later they'd fix it, but now I really don't want to use ebay anymore. Fucking crooks.

  • this didnt work, is it supposed to work instantly?

  • Maybe Ebay fixed the loophole by now, who knows. It worked before.

  • i did what you said in the video but it still says "Pending x amount of money" and I should already have the "x amount of money" after i did this right?

  • Did the person pay you for the item? You should have a certain amount of money in your paypal account. If so, then you need to issue a refund in the amount of one cent. It should work then.

    But what it sounds like to me is the person paid you with some other source or funds and it's still waiting to be transferred into your account. If that's the case, then you won't have access to any money yet.

  • I actually discovered this by accident, my cousin and I were helping each other with feedback, he setup a new Ebay account and wanted to sell some stuff, but couldn't because his feedback was too low. So, I sold him items for a very low price and he paid me with paypal. So I sent him a partial refund, less than what he paid me and I noticed that it released the funds right away..because I too had to wait 21 days for the money. Needless to say I discovered something useful :)

  • Ebay has become totally crazy with their selling conditions. It's bad enough I have to pay to sell items on Ebay, but Paypal takes another cut after you get paid from a buyer. And even if you don't sell anything, you still have to pay a small percentage. Even worse, I can sell an item to someone, they can receive it and say I never sent it or it doesn't work and then they can do a chargeback on me, keep the item and still get their money back. And I STILL have to wait for my money!!!

  • When I issue a small refund to the buyer, I will usually include a note with the refund stating that I overcharged for shipping by a small amount. This way people don't become frightened and think something fishy is happening. In fact, I sold something on Ebay yesterday and issued the buyer a refund in the amount of $1.00 and told them that I overcharged for shipping. I have even told people that I was sending them 1 penny for good luck. :)

  • ***** AMAZING VIDEO ******

    WORKS INSTANTLY .

    NO MORE WAITING FOR MONEY FOR 21 DAYS.

    NO MORE PHONE CALLS TO PAYPAL .

    PARTIAL REFUND OF £0.01 p AND THE PAYMENT IS INSTANTLY RELEASED.

    **** THIS GUY DESERVES A MEDAL *****

    TOP MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!1

  • THIS WORKS!!!!!

  • awsome thanks for this, i was getting tired of waiting so long for my paypal money

  • I was surprised that this worked for me, so I made a video for it. I know a lot of people were complaining about this problem.

  • Geniussssssssss

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