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  • kinesiology?! That is no kind of kinesiology I have ever seen!

  • This guy is a fucking retard

  • So Dr. Baum wants to recruit these warm, caring, empathic people "to practice proper medicine" and become "proper doctors". Maybe someone should ask why "proper doctors" aren't so nice and attentive. I suspect that medical school and internship are such horrible ordeals that they weed out the sensitive souls, and colossal tuition costs and malpractice insurance premiums keep the doctors' attention on money rather than patients. I wonder how much of that is necessary...

  • you can tell when Dawkins gets frustrated with the persons idiocy when he starts blinking real fast LOL

  • Seriously. They're all placebo shamans.

  • placebo effect LOL!

  • I took water for my cold & it went away in about a week. lol It works for the flu too but it took longer. My sprained ankle got better in a few weeks. Uggg, How can so many people attribute normal healing or recovery to something that clearly is not going to really help?

  • Well, if the placebo effect works, and it works safely (nobody could possibly be harmed by pure water, right?), then whats the problem? The placebo effect DOES work. It makes people feel better, and that can have real effects on illness. So, even if homeopathy is no better than placebo, it may still be effective medicine!

  • @dodanimal The problem is, is that the placebo makes the patient FEEL better, it isn't a cure. So although a cancer patient may feel better becuase of some placebo treatment, his cancer still isn't cured

  • @Epsio0 I'd also like to add that in the case of homeopathy, money is being spent on medicine that don't cure anything. The argument here is that why are the government spending money on something that doesn't cure, where as they could use the money to fund research that are looking for cures such as cancer

  • 5:24 - 6:00 the nail has just been hit on the head.

  • Placebo

  • I'm a huge fan of Richard Dawkins but I´ve taken homeopathy for a couple of years for common flus and soar throats and It really does work I don't know how but it does

  • @RafattackVids

    It's called placebo effect.

  • @RafattackVids It means that you flu or sore throat would have cleared up without any help.

  • "This is all rather contradictory" The most polite way of saying "This is complete horseshit" that I've ever heard.

  • @Episio0 Genius! :D Noble prize goes to you xD lol ''we don't know what the structure of liquid is'' That or more stupid?

  • It sounds like homeopathy is successful because its patients are treated like people. Every time I go to the doctor or hospital I am treated like shit; I hate going so i rarely go. Mainstream medicine seems to have acquired a lot of arrogance; it seems that they believe that, since their treatments are scientifically proven, it doesn't matter how they treat their patients. I'm sick of being seen by PAs and I'm sick of 10 min appointments. MDs can go to hell. Let's all grow opium

  • @EEMEPhysicist  Tested and approved medicine > Homeopathy

  • "Fear of being ignored", she probably asked him what he feared. And yes, I'm sure that's what he fears, but it's not that he fears people will ignore HIM, he fears that people will ignore the ideas he's trying to promote.

  • "Fear of being ignored", she probably asked him what he feared. And yes, I'm sure that's what he fears, but it's not that he fears people will ignore HIM, he fears that people will ignore the ideas he's trying to promote.

  • Sometimes there are things that science can't measure yet. Being a total atheist,believing in nothing only what you observe is ass bad as believing in pure mythology.

  • Well, probably one of the reasons why people opt for "Alternative" medicine is because modern medicine is a racket for ripping money.The doctors just mint money for doing nothing or over complicating things which can be quite simple.For example, if I have a small knee pain, they exaggerate it, take too many scans,conduct many tests and I end up paying so much of money for nothing...so modern medicine need to clean its house

  • did he just say; "Nobody knows what the structure of liquid water is?" @1:55...who the fuck buys this shit?

  • @squawk56 and that guy went to at least 6 years of medicin.... I feel sad :(

  • One objection though... how many "true medications" rely at least largely on the placebo effect? Particularly in the 'psychiatric medication" branche, where this is obviously a major matter. When I hear psychiatrists talking about their medicine, they often barely understand it either. They just notice 'it helps' and make some theories. Sounds exactly the same as alternative medicine if you ask me... and I consider that pharmaceutical companies are in it for the money, not for the science.

  • @sorsocksfake "One objection though... how many "true medications" rely at least largely on the placebo effect?" none. That is what a "double blind" test means. Not only do the subjects not know what is being administered, but the testers don't know either. This is precisely to separate the placebo effect. If an effect shows in one group and not or less in the other in this kind of test you know it was not because of what the subject thinks they might be taking.

  • @no2religions That is true as long as the tests are done by independant scientists, not by the pharmaceutical company who can make lots of money if they get a good test result. Even if they do use doubleblind there, they can select and publish the experiment that got the best results. As soon as billions of dollars enter the picture, independance is totally gone, and science can hardly function amidst bias. Mind you, the ones making the big decisions are corporate minds. Not scientists.

  • "The feel of a kind woman’s hands"...giggidy

  • Why has the research not been conclusive?

    Well..Because it's been very diffuse....

    Haha

  • "nobody knows what the structure of liquid water is..." Isn't it H2O?

  • @Epsio0 No. The respondent was talking about the LONG RANGE structure or order between molecules. Thats the theory anyway.

  • @dodanimal Well I'm no chemist, but thanks for clearing that up :)

  • I can prove homeopathy does not work. I take an eyedropper of grain alcohol, dissolve it in the Pacific Ocean, then I withdraw a cup of water from the ocean and drink it. I won't get drunk, but I'll feel kind of sick from all the salt.

  • @BigFatHeretic uh..... that sounds dumb... no offense. might as well ask a mexican shaman to break an egg rub it all over you're body while you lay bed, then take the remains and but it under the bed.. the next morning take away the egg, and all the evil, sin and disease will be gone :/

  • @Thephyguy - That's what I was trying to say, that homeopathy does not work. The idea that one atom of a substance in a pool or the entire ocean, that amount of dilution is like not taking the substance at all. So I agree, the whole concept of homeopathy is stupid and moronic. I was only using the eyedropper of grain alcohol dissolved in the ocean as an illustration as to how stupid the who concept is. I think you misunderstood me.

  • @BigFatHeretic Woops sorry

  • Richard said that homeopathy that is used for colds or itchy scalp is harmless enough. I must disagree with him. If a gullible person uses homeopathy on a cold and it goes away (like it naturally will), they may go back to homeopathy if a serious problem occurs, and this could cause serious problems.

  • western medicine is so industrialized and motivated by profit, it has lowered itself into the realm of these fakes. not because the science behind it is flawed, but because it is implemented so poorly.

  • Nobody knows what the structure of liquid water is? Holy Shit !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • i got board around this part.

  • What about the VSEPR Theory?

    COME ON! YOUR'E A DOCTOR! YOU HAD TO DO CHEMISTRY TO GET IN!

  • "Nobody knows what the structure of liquid water is"? OMG. Two parts Hydrogen, one part oxygen! It scares me that a guy who calls himself a doctor is saying something like that. I'd rather be treated by a doctor who actually took a chemistry course or two while in high school or college.

  • Water is a polar molecule. It has two lone pair electrons on the Oxygen atom, and exhibits Hydrogen Bonding which allows for it form beads on solid surfaces.

    I learned that. LAST YEAR, in High school. As a Junior. What the fuck.

  • Homeopath guy is trolling reason

  • I did the tapping of my nose for 5 minutes, and I felt something coming from within...Ohh, Laughter!!!

  • 666 likes :D

  • did anyone notice that awesome joke when that man from homeopathesis said

    well it's all very diffuse XD

  • this really is a placebo experiment.

  • the structure of water?! One oxygen atom with two hydrogen atoms attached about at a 104.45 degree angle with respect to each other. NOBEL PRIZE HERE I COME! :D

  • @AraGuitar no no no, nobody exactly know what water's structure is! :p

  • No one knows the structure of water? LMAO XD

  • 15 people deny physical evidence and rational explanations. I think we've found the problem.

  • Money got him into it, come on it's so simple.

  • i see my once famous comment was voted down. tis a sad day indeed.

  • 8:27 He's getting a Footjob =)

  • Can you see them with a microscope lol... classic.

  • i once 'cured' a young woman of severe migrane, she told me she had it for years.

    i told her because it was considered 'her' migrane there was an issue of ownership,

    and so i placed my hands on her head ang give me her migrane by releasing ownership over it. i then shook my hands to release it. through my help she healed herself..

  • 05:58 Truly effective jugs???

  • The feel of a kind woman's hands. Definitely.

  • holy wtf?????

  • Thats nothing like placebo, its a impulse that activate your body own selfhealing process. we all know when our mother blow on a cut or smth and it worked. and why? it simply signals the body - go we look after you - and the body reacts. thats in my eyes also the reason why placebo effects have a positive influence. and when a doctor talks with you not only 3 minutes, but 15 or even more ... this already helps.

  • Because it's cheap and easy to fund Mr. Dawkins, it is businesses and governments medical bills made convenient! It is like a tax loophole.

  • that homeopathic doctor is just a plain barefaced liar who must know he is lying. How can he lie to another adult right to his face like he is with Dawkins. People sell their souls and minds for a cushy job.

  • Fear of being ignored....LMAO

  • Placebo are good at music!

  • So according to homeopathy diluding food would cure food poisining?

  • If the touch of a kind woman is the main cause for people feeling better from that method, then I know something that would do a lot of good.

  • @NoNamesLeft0102 that explains why the people on the internet are so sick

  • @MarcfromTreasureNet1 LMAO Oh so true good man.

  • Something tells me Dr. Dawkins is in no position to worry about being ignored any time soon.

  • Simply a placebo effect! At my school, there was kid who was given what he thought was an ecstasy tablet from his friends, but it only was a panadol tablet! Although, he actually started getting really hyperactive as though he had actually taken an ecstasy tablet!

  • @CRISNCHIPS12398 thats not placebo, thats a kid trying to be cool for the most part.

  • @CRISNCHIPS12398 ecstasy doesnt make you hyper, most X is cut w/ heroin which really mellows you out.at least that has been my experience. if someone had a pill press they could cut the mdma with whatever they please.

  • @moldyantics666 Heroin is much more expensive than MDMA. Why would anyone cut MDMA with heroin?

  • @jlmadill I honestly dont know Ive only done X 3 times and all three times I was real mellow my friend told me it was cut with alot of heroin. Maybe the cheap stuff is cut with meth. like I said if you have a pill press you can cut it with whatever and set your price accordingly.

  • @CRISNCHIPS12398 fake ecstasy pills dont get you buzzing, trust me, ive brought enough.

  • Is she giving him the Vulcan Mind-meld? "Van Gelder..."

  • Gotta love the placebo effect! If you think you are taking something that makes you feel better then you think you feel better.

  • Placebo works, but the people using placbo should be aware that what they are doing doesnt really work in the way they tell their patients

  • Fucking idots

  • "Fear of being ignored" LMAO!

  • ''Homeopaths are very nice people...'' That is actually true, but I don't think treating terminal patients with bunnies and sunshine while there is a cancer raging through their bodies is a good idea...

  • @Cockpuncher1000 I do Placebos are so powerful keep them thinking positive and stuff, though real medicine might help too.

  • @Cockpuncher1000

    So I assume your name implies that you have punched 1000 people in the cock, no?

  • @Cockpuncher1000 I would charge that they are nice, just like anyone else, so long as they can live merrily in their nonsense. But confront them with their own self-hidden deceit, and the story changes. Plus faux kindness it is, really. They are being paid MONEY. They aren't doing it out of the kindness of their heart :)

  • "why aren't the studies conclusive? well their very diffuse." I lolled

  • I think I'm going to become a homeopath. Easy money.

  • Placebo does not work on plants.

  • "But why are we so good at placebo?"

    *facepalm*

  • i am on his side, but when he talkes about "safe chemical drugs" have to say that the normal chemical drugs can be very unsafe too. if one just looks at all the side effects on most and everyday drugs are taken off the market each time they find out a drug that was possibly prescribed to thousands may be doing more harm than good, and the pharmacutical industry bribing doctors to prescribe mor drugs than necessary

    Alternativ med. is nonsense but he portrays normal med. a bit too positvely here

  • that doctor.......f****g hypocrite

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  • @davelantor That is the chemical makeup of water, which has nothing to do with structure. Take the element carbon for example, both graphite and diamond both contain carbon, but each has a different structure and hence different properties.

  • @Plecebo1996 He is doing this to show how these people are the ones holding us back from human progression. There are many things we aren't allowed to study or experiment to HELP progress human survival because its against the law. These are the people that are holding us back because of their beliefs tell us not to.

  • Nobody knows the structure of liquid water?

  • Why is Richard Dawkins so intent on ruining things. Given these remedies are stupid and I'm an atheist myself but at the end of the day if someone's beliefs makes them feel better or helps them sleep at night let it be.

  • @Plecebo1996 because these people are hurting others. There are people who would turn their back on medicine and make their sick children take these alternate methods instead, KILLING THEM. Thats murder. There are many more reasons, but that should satisfy your question for now right?

  • @blazearmoru Ah ok, Well if it's hurting people fair enough, but what I took from it was that it was non-sense that didn't do anything positive or negative. I was talking more about Dawkins having ago at Horoscopes and things such as that with a meaningless nature.

  • @Plecebo1996 That money could be used for something productive... like educating people so shit like bush stops causing wars and other stuff... or food... or... other... stuff... i dont know! D:

  • I find him hilarious..

    Woman "There are 14 meridians that run through the body...."

    Dawkins "Can they be seen with a microscope?"

    His utter disdain.

  • @sromag

    nutcase woman

  • "fear of being ignored" just makes me sad to think about

  • Such bollocks, lmao. You wonder how the shit peddlers can sleep at night, but they actually believe it.

  • mad as a hatter!

  • placebo effect

  • @bavwill what about it?

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  • @MisfitClasses Nevermind, I commented before it was mentioned.

    but since you asked, Placebos rules

  • Wow! 'Stupid' is an understatement! I think we need to help the process of natural selection somehow. Send everyone to a rainforrest on their 21st birthday and if they can survive a week then they are allowed to rejoin the human race.

  • I love Dawkins because he listens to everyone and he tries to understand them, he's open and honest. A christian would just say "I don't care what you think, I don't want to know"

  • Did you see his face when the women was tapping his feet hahahaha man I love Dawkins

  • I was diagnosed with Hypothyroidism. I was prescribed the usual synthetic hormone for this. After I started taking it, I could only sleep for 3-4 hours at a time.I was getting tired! I went to the doctor and told him this. There are other thyroid drugs that could have been tried, but he wanted to give me an antidepressant. He said that insomnia is sometimes a sign of depression! Funny, I never had trouble sleeping before I took the medication, but now I'm depressed? Hmmm. I refused the pills.

  • @spikutus pharmaceutical companies have bought and paid for full access to modern medicine and are using it as their laboratory.

  • a lot of ppl r stupid indeed !!!, most of the PPL , posting comments here sure fit this description , let me tell u !  I hope this Richard guy, gets cancer some day, just so he can find out first hand, what the "scientific medicine" in fact is..... ??!! oh what a joke...," the safe medicine"!??....now, that's a good one !! .... hehehe

  • @tepstolog

    Wishing someone cancer because you do not agree. And cannot understand science. You are quite the noble idiot I must say. Let's twist this little game. If you get a real life threatening disease promise me to not go to any doctor or use any scientific medicine. If you do that at least your suffering will be short so that is somewhat positive.

  • Exactly Mr Dawkins... so, let them be. In time people will become rationalized.

  • Once you think you have seen it all.....wow, just wow.

  • "can these pathways be viewed under a microscope?" "umm..I dont think so." that would of been funny if he just got up and walked out. Then the camera zoomed in on the ladys face.

  • oops I just finished watching the rest of the video and realized that Dawkins already mentioned the placebo effect...this is what happens when you make comments before you finish watching something =P

  • this is a result of the placebo effect

  • Who doesn't like getting a massage?

    I mean, If you think about any of these, so called, treatments in a critical manner, it is quite obvious that it's all in your head.

  • This just crossed my mind. Remember how employers frown on you taking breaks (unless they're smoking breaks, which a "justifiable"), or how if something is "useless" people frown upon you doing it, even though the whole purpose is to relieve stress and make you happier? And because they're "useless", and you're "idling", your image is being trampled upon? Well, some people managed to convince other people that these things are useful. No change, but they're accepted now as "useful".

  • For more proof of both the human capacity for superstition and our basic need for intimacy, check out Web Drifter - Episode 24: "Come On, Feel The Noise." Martin Sargent, from TechTV, visit a 'tonal healer'. It's another show that is at once sad, frustrating and hard to watch, but also hilarious and touching.

  • PLACEBO

  • @andyfactor1987 Indeed.

  • @andyfactor1987 The word of the day is ...

  • @andyfactor1987 You may say "placebo", but if I'm gonna take a placebo I do at least want the strongest one they've got.

  • @usenetposts The strength of a placebo depends only on how strong you think it is.

  • @LesPaul2006 Then I shall simply drink tap water and persuade myself that it is the elixir of lif and I'll be devoid of sickness by drinking it.

  • snake-oil salesmen

  • "Nobody knows what the structure of liquid water is."

    2 atoms of hydrogen, 1 atom of oxygen. Do I get a nobel prize now?

  • @davidmurderbass What that guy meant was that we haven't been able to observe the appearance of liquid waters structure because it moves. Notice the use of the word 'liquid', we've observed the structure of ice.

  • @davidmurderbass Not the physics one, but we can get you in the queue for the peace prize.

  • @usenetposts Sweet! I could use the cash ;)

  • @davidmurderbass Priceless comment xD

  • @2129261184 Thanks!

  • @davidmurderbass you have to get that guys number and tell him that lol no joke that'll be so funny

  • @Louisthefish23 if you can find it I'll do it :)

  • @davidmurderbass Yees, i wonder why Dawkins did not mention that.

  • @D3admaus I'm not sure, my guess is it got edited out since they only have so much time to display all the other nuts in this series.

  • @davidmurderbass That's the structure of a water molecule...

  • @cmvd777

    you keep saying the same thing everywhere

    could you let up a little and NOT try to convince everyone that "OMG GOD EXISTS!"

    honestly, it's just plain annoying

  • @gerb1lmage

    Complains are not at this department..lolol

  • @CMVD777 In response to #1, can you please send me some examples of prophecies that have or are occuring? Where are they located in the bible? You also spelled middle wrong.

  • @jonpaulmoen

    A lot of them, most notable, new order, vatican role etc. Write The Bible Prophecy (click on second site Bible Prophecy Truth dot com), there you can see more passages and details straight from the Bible, but i can give you some examples: Daniel 7:1-25, Ezekiel 38.

  • @CMVD777

    but it was still written by man not by the flying spiggetti monster or any other supernatural creature!!!!

  • @CMVD777 You are a complete moron if you still believe in fairy tales. Grow up.

  • @jonpaulmoen

    *LATER EDIT: write The Bible Prophecy in the google.

  • @CMVD777 What about the failed prophecy of Babylon destorying Egypt as told in Ezekiel? Why did the generation Jesus was talking to, his disciples, pass when they weren't suppose to?

  • @CMVD777 ..... you really don't know what a circular argument is right?

    God wrote bible-> bible says god exists-> therefore god exists-> God wrote bible-> bible says god exists ....... so on and so forth

    no offense its tiring for people to see these types of weak arguments all the time:))

  • The truth is, ...it's fucking fake. ....Ever heard of the placebo effect?

  • I love the fact how celebrity endorsement is somehow a sign of validity for this horseshit

  • Ok, wanna give em a little bit of salt, talk and be nice to people for an hour, no problem, its all subjective, BUT, to deliberately tell their homeopatients to "don´t take your meds for a week" should be penalized.

  • double blind testing has disproved homeopathy time and time again just look up randi.

  • "Fear of being Ignored"? Im surprised Dawkin's head didnt explode when he was forced to concentrate on that thought!!!

  • Marajuana treatment for certain ailments has proven efficacy and, for political/economic reasons, is illegal. There are a few well publicized medical treatments with low efficacy (and large detrimental side-effects) that are approved primarily because they don't upset the political/economic status quo.

    Certainly some people go to homeopathy because they distrust the political/economic influence in scientific medicine.

  • homeopothy might work very well

    but probably due to the placebo effect

  • "Nobody knows the structure of liquid water."

    Ye gods. How did this guy get a medical degree?

  • maaan.. this is out of sync... sucks. Dawkins runs science, and these make-believers don't...

  • The problem regards the research I have seen regarding homeopathy, is that it is far from good enough. The studies are often too small. The other thing is: Even their explaination is wacky, doesnt mean it isnt successfull. For instance, folk medicine or acupuncture, they talk about chi and energy flow, but research show it to stimulate nervers. Dawkins is wrong in this point.