Huk vs MorroW - Game 2 - Part 2/2 - GosuCoaching ShowMatch - StarCraft 2

[cras17]

gg

[AAJAA5]

Marauders, bah! I bet Huk has bigger balls than Morrow lol

[29MLB]

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[stanmm1fan]

i fucking hate the m/m ball.

[theblackopslegend1]

@stanmm1fan the actual build is called M/M/M which is the same + medivacs, its pretty much a terran univerals build, that usually depends a bit on each race( zerg used less, but still used)

[atrisX]

hate mm ball

[frozenmassacre]

im so fucking tired to see every terran just sticking with marine marauder the whole fucking game... especially marauders needs a nerf asap.

[GuyN0ir]

@frozenmassacre Not really. They have their counters. HuK just didn't adapt quite fast enough, and he didn't use the colossi as well as he could have.

[Sachems49]

what does APM stand for?

[tuestresfat]

@Sachems49 actions per minute

[InfernoOmni]

props to Morrow for his very solid play. he's not very flashy but he macromanages very well

[Wakookaka]

Hmm. Morrow is the most boring player I've seen so far.

[516lopo]

conga kine drops

[shnerkyshnerky]

i like how fast he talks during battles

[vmn512]

Blah, youtube adds are pwning these videos :(

[Chrijz]

@vmn512 No YouTube-ads when using Firefox+Adblock plus.

[tyranid77]

3:26

Seblahdulooonsturminonand...

[akaFurion]

Hmm i think Huk intended to place 3 Gateways, not 3 Forges ..

[Qyburnator]

I dont play terren so Im sure Im biased, but terren just seems so much easier to play. They have the best scouting there is, yet they dont even need it. Imagine if morrow was playing as zerg and didnt scout HuKs stargates....

Also MMM is OP. The only counters to it require way more tech, and it puts you at a disadvantage in army size. Even upgrades banelings (hooks + burrow) are more of a tech commitment than MMM! And hightemplars or broodlords are a huge tech commitment. =/

[Jefferyxu45]

@Qyburnator well, ravens suck as scouts... and protoss observers and to some extent overseers are far superior for that so i dont mind scan as its so easy to hide tech buildings and it lasts very short time.

[redsword87]

Can't see how much of a good micro is displayed here by the Terran. Leaving 5-6 Marauders in a storm to die? Good micro? Sure... Sure... Such awesome micro....

[centripetal25]

how do you drop in a line like that?

[alexandregareau]

This map is sooo terran favored.

[Gl4cierman]

wtf@nexus snipe.

HOW in the world can 2 full medivacs take out a nexus with stim and leave with one medivac surviving.

Marauder damage and slow is just utterly ridiculous. They are the single reason that terran can counter colossus and stalkers, snipe any building, prevent enemy armies from running.

[phixxwutwut]

@Gl4cierman true, plus stim and upgrade, marauders are crazy good.

[altf4nubs]

Terran=OP

[mozleyman]

Wow, Im surprised even in the pro games Morrow is just sticking with the stupid tier 1 Terran units. These TvP games are getting kind of boring cause every one does the exact same thing. Toss players actually run though practically the entire tech tree every game, depending on how they are gonna deal with the tier 1 Terran.

This is the reason tier 1 Terran is OP

[GoldenZealot21]

@mozleyman

Same with Ghost EMP :)

[SoKorrupted]

Immortals are so polite.

[TikiGaming]

Marauders + Medivacs = Overpowered

[LILlion23]

BCs and thors if used properly are bad as fuck especially with dropships bcs vikings and mass marines is one of my fav builds or thors tanks and marines i mean they may be slow but they are powaful

[furasoke]

is it me or at 3:34 that archon was moving while the fusion was still going?

[sitrilko]

@furasoke Not really. It happens time from time, when other units around it litterly push it.

[tommyjang95]

@furasoke lol i thought that was hax O.o

[Warcraftian93]

@furasoke I noticed that in the last game too, it's probably from the stalkers pushing it forward

[gmogmo321]

@furasoke

It was moving because units can't go through each other. The game allows units to sorta push units aside. They will however go back into their original place where you left them if you dont give them another command.

[m0eb1us00]

@furasoke

seems like the stalkers have been pushing him in front of themselves. I wonder when the pros will start to consciously exploit this bug. (I don't even know if I should call it a bug in the first place.)

[Arksimon2k]

@furasoke Yeah, they can do that.

[knivesx2004]

@furasoke The friendly toss ball was giving it a push.

[Wazookah]

@furasoke you can push it around with other units.

[TheAssault3r]

@furasoke it was being pushed by the stalkers etc

[Paradiddler45]

@furasoke The stalkers are pushing it.

[imregergely]

@furasoke it's pushed by the other units moving forward

[mrtaco18337]

@furasoke

it was o.o

[Maelstrom01]

@furasoke It was, they can do that in SC2.

[TheTauren13]

@furasoke They cant actually move by themselves but friendly units walking into them will push them along...

[Sachems49]

@furasoke i think it was being pushed by the army

[GuyN0ir]

@furasoke Ya, they can do that.

[HimuraBattosai101]

@furasoke @furasoke the stalkers were pushing it but they cant move while morphing^^

[imowningyourmom]

@furasoke its a bug ^^

[Blaneblaneman]

@furasoke I think -- though I'm not sure -- that the other units behind it was pushing it.

[clearshot34]

@furasoke i think it was getting pushed

[rashin]

@furasoke

Archons CAN move while fusing. Been around for a long time.

[VWXYZ]

@RockLee56887

I won't disagree with you, I'm not in any way on a level of playing where I can decide whenever marauders are too cost effective.

However, in my limited experience... They are pretty frikkin' annoying!

[LoneAidenPryde]

i was wondering why so many ppl were replying to my msg. realized that it must be most thumbed up. nice to see i have support since all replies have obviously been all terran fanboys

[SergeiCinema]

if starcraft 2 was a sport, husky would be the PERFECT commentator

"sunday night starcraft with H to the USKY, HUSKY"

[hepper95]

@SergeiCinema

Huskys castings is like the NHL for nerds! :)

[hepper95]

@SergeiCinema

Husky castings is like the NHL for nerds! :)

[Baleur]

@SergeiCinema Everyone has prolly replied to this a hundred times but i will do it as well.

Korea! :D

[AcidPop101]

@SergeiCinema In Korea it is a real sport,think they have 3 channels dedicated to the game.

[SergeiCinema]

@AcidPop101 oh i did not know that, though it seems logical =P i wish they had live gaming channels here, that would be awesome =) but i think husky is doing a pretty good job all his own

[acs262]

@SergeiCinema ...its not a sport? O.O

[RIFTonline]

@acs262 SC2 is a eSport Korea has TV channels running SC2 24/7 .... so yes it is a sport on the same level as football in certain contries.

[Daphreak696]

@SergeiCinema Are you saying this isnt a sport?

[FeatherClint]

well played by terran, but i dont care how well played it was, rauders need to be nerfed... JUST A LIL BIT... maybe make them walk a lil slower cause they do like same dmg as tank and run faster, and can be healed, and can stim pack..... im just saying this cause im tired of no variety in terran armies... MMM everytime

[fallenup19]

why didnt huk get more air? at hte end some storm-> run with voidrays above could have beaten the marauders

[Sewermutt]

OP Terran ftw. And archons should NOT be slowed by marauders.

[Bagonad]

So stupid how MMM is the only thing that works on protoss, the only way to beat protoss is outplay his economy so much that your weak tier 1's can beat him, since terran tier 3 is useless.

[centripetal25]

@Bagonad the only reason why its the only option is because of the intrinsic gayness of void rays

[operations1000]

@Bagonad That's bullshit. 3M is cheap and OP that's why they go for it vs Protoss alot. There's plenty other options to go against protoss with a build like this. Banshees, tanks and ravens would do wonders. Rines, BC's and ghosts would do the job too..he had the minerals to go some other build but fact is 3M works too well and is too mineral efficient to pass with some higher tech build...that's where the imbalance is.

[thejemag]

@Bagonad This is clearly the most stupid post  I have seen in a while.

I donno where u did get that idea but terran definitely have a really really wide array of possibilities against protoss. There's a lot of tank play at high diamond, also marine + raven + banshee timing pushes. Also I don't see by any mean how terran Tier 1 is being weak as marine + marauder is one of the best tier 1 combo.

[smdiddy]

@Bagonad I was not aware that battle cruisers are useless.... this is a crazy comment!!

[returningwhisper]

I fucking hate MMM.

[furikuri52]

So the terran player lost twice the number of units but used almost 50% less resources?

Terran is the new Zerg apparently.

[MKG33k]

MMM beats everything

bastard terrans.

[047022221]

this is what happens when you let a terran over expo, to all you whiners, terran aint op, huk just got out played thanks to his bad void ray game sense

[operations1000]

@047022221 Dude news flash: you do not need 5 bases to go MMM. He got 2 extra basis just incase his 3M push didn't work, which it almost always does if skill =/= skill so he'd have the resources to switch. The 2 basis didn't really ever come into play, he coulda mule dropped on his 3rd.

[047022221]

@operations1000 no but they have instant/super reproduction abilities

[lifeofasalesman01]

3:20 = ROFLCOMMENTARY! :D

[Djazaairii]

4:56 xD epic

[leatherjacket9]

Terran swarm!! Ouch!

[ps3live47]

mauroder need nerf

[Expedio212]

How you drop in a line like some players do? Are they just spamming drop in a line?

[Pedulla88]

@Expedio212 no, you press D for drop and then left click on the dropship and they will drop as the move

[shalkana]

Can some1 tell me how to airdrop units from medivacs or whatever, while they're moving?

Thanks in advance

[etham3]

@shalkana I believe you command the medivac to move to a rally point and then press U or D (w/e the unload hotkey is for you) and click on the medivac itself.

[EHaraka]

"He's trying to play ketchup"?

[deaddu]

@EHaraka

"...Catch-up" but it did sound very much like ketchup lol

[KadeshSa]

3:32 - 3:40 Archon morph micro? Huk is too good.

[SoBeast27]

wow nice plays

[megajezior]

what is this game called?looks fun

[VelvetShadowKet]

@megajezior starcraft2

[thesparkiscool]

@megajezior starcraft 2... phail?

[Maxell720]

Huk looked like a silver player this game 000000000 micro

[Maxell720]

Horrible micro by huk this game

[ripacipa]

awesome game)

[sablesoul]

MMM Ball, apparently the most standard and effective strategy in the game. Cause you know... it's that hard to manage.

[Orion8888]

this is a really good terran opening.

[WinninGuy]

You should have seen and mentioned that Morrow had 13 barracks which was pretty insane and excellent at reinforcing

[acomaco2]

thumbs up for video responses!

[Shadytree4]

U suk u ugly apes xD

[GeneticJoint]

if someone is feeling like nice dude or dudet what is amp or apm

[rinabebii]

@GeneticJoint actions per minute

[cbrsmurf]

@GeneticJoint

Actions Per Minute

[anonymage]

@GeneticJoint

EMP: ghost ability that removes 100 energy and 100 shield points

AMP: Actions per minutes

[useless254]

Huk could have switched to Void rays when Morrow produced an almost pure marauder ball. The stargate was already there for a quite some time.

[Parvenu333]

AASDFLAKDSHFLASKADSKFKL HIGH TEMPLARS PSI STORM DALDSHFLAKDS ORGASM

[PineeTree]

I love MMM. So fun to watch.

[sheeplovebeer]

Thanks for posting the videos with relevant video response links.

Makes navigating through your plethora of vids much easier, especially when I can't remember which ones I have watched.

[hobbesrs]

3:33 stalkers pushed the morphing archon all the way with them

[ZoomZip]

@hobbesrs holy shit thats awesome haha

[ikamico]

how did he do that moving drop micro at 4:31

[259]

@ikamico Press D and click on the medivac you want to drop with and it'll drop one unit out while still moving. Very useful for quick base raids.

[elspoko]

Stimming is now 'good micro'

/sigh.

this is why Terran is the laughing stock.

[moneyman10k]

terrans needs to stop using clumps of units against templar storms

its not like we havent known for 10 years that templar storms own clumps of units

[wannabboxer]

Did anyone see that warping-in Archon around 3:40?

[dabomb1357]

Stop bitching about imbalance people. Toss and terran are fien the way they are now. Zerg needs a general, slight buff but that's it.

[RivZeroSC]

3:21 Husky on Crack.

[cprone]

Huk got out macro'd, that simple. He lost the game when he lost that Nexus. Cry more Protoss.

[RivZeroSC]

Husky from now on can you please edit your videos after you commentate them and make the "Husky on Crack" parts like 1/2 time? Seriously can't understand you when you talk so fast. Sounds like gibberish man.

[stupidpastry]

wow i see a lot of complaining about how teir 3 units are killing teir one mmm balls, keep in mind look how many tech trees huk went down, thats not cheap neither are the units. while morrow on the other hand focused on macro and just killed him with a lot of shit, huk even won the first battle but morrows macro was so much better he was able to out produce huk, not because of some rediculis inbalance in races

[GoldenZealot21]

@stupidpastry

Keep in mind how easily Vikings counter Colossi and Ghosts counter HTs. It's completely one-sided. There is still quite a bit of imbalance in the game.

[kirkjiao]

@stupidpastry yawn

[stupidpastry]

lol digging the gorilla warfare at 1:28

[imgdumpprep]

@stupidpastry *guerilla

[xGodlyBeastx]

2 People wanted to see motherships

[tomson600]

first time I have ever seen terrans win!

Even so, he had to have so many marines in order to keep up to the losses from sidestorm... seems like protoss has better weapons.

[Maurinovsky]

Morrow is a beast!!!!! OP

[azraelfsa]

rename immortal to mortal.

[DarrenFlood1995]

IMBA

[Freefunware]

battlecruiser rush should work too :p.

XD being total newbie here.

[DoNultima]

1 colossus - 2 colossi 

[LoneAidenPryde]

when all else fails. just go mass marine marauder. beats storms, archons immortals zealots stalkers colossus LOL

[DarrenFlood1995]

@LoneAidenPryde lol

[UbelFeuer]

@LoneAidenPryde Only because he had the economy to replace all the units he lost to storm.

[finninaama]

@LoneAidenPryde Yeah, since it's not like superior economy matters or anything.

[WaterJay]

@LoneAidenPryde tell me about it, ridiclous mmm balls, terran tier 1 -1.5 units, steam roll toss tier 3 units, LOL, shall we call it TerranCraft now

[FoggyFishburne]

@LoneAidenPryde Yup... balance huh...

[AllstarHunE]

@LoneAidenPryde

much of it owe to the fact that the terran had more bases and did some good drops

[supermax64]

@LoneAidenPryde

Sure is fair for protoss players.

[ricur552]

@LoneAidenPryde

actually storms and colossus and zealots prety much own m&ms. But Morrow was on 3 expands while huk were only on one basiclly the whole time. Huk didnt hafve the economy to put down more gateways but morrow could just pump m&ms out of the constantly producing baracks. But i get your point, the m&m is still very effective to alla units even those who are counter to m&ms.

[TheNeCafe]

@LoneAidenPryde not if both players have the same economy, and the same skill level

[Arefel]

@LoneAidenPryde Or just have a more mobile army with better macro...

[Erreman2000]

@LoneAidenPryde 2 storms kill all marines. u ignorant fool

[828Pakie]

@LoneAidenPryde

Lol HuK had collosi and storms and still lost to morrow,

Morrow outplayed him in this like how HuK outplayed Morrow in the first game.

And no thermal lance makes collosi very vulnerable to rauders

[Tukfssr]

@LoneAidenPryde implying that would of worked without medivak

implying that whenever terran wins its due to some sort of imbalance

fuk off

[zbindenz]

@LoneAidenPryde lmao it really doesnt win the drops screwed huk and marrow just simply made more.

[sneezeoncats]

@LoneAidenPryde yeah- when the marines and marauders are 2-2 with stim,shields, and concussive shells and the Protoss is 0-0 with charge and Psi Storm

[LoVeiTCoOl]

@LoneAidenPryde No it doesn't, but beating the opponent with an extra 2+ saturated bases does.

Korea=Protoss is op

US=Terran is op

ME=I don't give a fuck

[IiILightRIiI]

@LoVeiTCoOl lol i like that last breakdown there for yourself.

[GoldenZealot21]

@LoVeiTCoOl

Err... Koreans say Terran is OP too XD.

[operations1000]

@LoVeiTCoOl Lol, I like that analogy.

[thebmaster888]

@LoneAidenPryde idiot

[Skope111]

@RockLee56887 Well then along with the increased damage for a marauder, it is entirely cost based. What you are saying is the solution lies within delaying these abilities. The terran are infamous for balling up these huge armies with full abilities within like 10 min.

[Patrickr96]

HOLY SHIT ! at 3:40 u just raged XD

they should debuff the storms

[Patrickr96]

HOLY SHIT ! at 3:40 u just raged XD

[LockheedC130]

Why wasn't HuK going for air? I think marauders are pretty much useless against an attack from the air...

[demoncrash]

great match and commentary

[Peanutz75]

Crazy micro on multi-fronts attacks.

You need Jedi skills to handle that much multitasking

[sneezeoncats]

@Peanutz75 or be Korean

[12345dubi12345]

mouz was really nice multifuckin task , must be korean

[damoriaa]

@12345dubi12345 MorroW is american i believe, he is an amazing terran player, even beat IdrA (best zerg player in europe/world).

[thsrmyusarnamelol]

@damoriaa

MorroW is Swedish I believe :F

[Greenball244]

@damoriaa

Stop spreading random shit before actually checking your info. MarroW is a swedish player.

[heavyballs187]

@damoriaa idra sucks

[visualkei72]

Terran OP? i think not.

[hiiamlogan]

can a immortal surviv a nuke

[WuIzMe]

@hiiamlogan nope, nuke goes through shields

[rkmit1]

Nice...

[mccann541]

aaaaah have ad sweeper for chrome but an add still got me

[Insorik]

at 4:55 i nearly wet my pants oh excuse me dont mind me

[sexy214x]

FUCK YAWW TERRAN, FIST PUMP