Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
@thatdelightfulchap I think they do, it's just the topic is a serious issue for many people. This skit is hilarious though. I've seen it a dozen times and still laugh all the way through.
There is no ¨cure¨ for anyone's sexuality, whether homosexual or even pedophile. We must accept people for who they are. No one gets to choose their sexuality.
@4boySonic You cannot choose your desire fool. You can have the desire to murder, rob and kill. Don't mean you have to go out and do it simply because you have the desire.You can ALWAYS CHOOSE your actions.
@MasterCSX Isn't that what I said? A person's sexuality isn't a choice. Or in your words, "you cannot choose your desire". If you have no choice in your desires, then obviously the choices we make in life are going to be reflections of the desires we never chose. Comprendez..fool?
@MasterCSX sexuality is how you live your life sexually. This denotes action. Homosexual describes the desire. Homosexuality describes the lifestyle. All lifestyles are by CHOICE. PERIOD.
@MasterCSX Lifestyles are always a choice, whereas your innate sexuality is not. As this brilliantly funny video demonstrates. You can pretend to be someone you're not with all your heart, but no amount of pretending is going to change who you are at heart.
@4boySonic Oh so if I have desire to murder someone I should just do it? Bad logic kiddo. And sexuality does not denote desire. Sexuality is action. ACTING on the desire. There is a difference. You can deny your unnatural desires and wait for them to pass. Or suppress them forever. Its your CHOICE. Violent people have the unnatural desire to hurt and kills. Just because he has the desire, does not mean he has to act it out.
@MasterCSX Oh dear, you need an education. I'll try to explain it as simply as I can. Forget your violence analogy. It is ridiculous and cannot be compared with sexuality. When a boy is born he usually comes with a masculinized brain, and girls usually arrive with a feminized brain. In adults we can observe structural differences between male and female brains. There is a structure known as the dimorphic nucleus from which we can distinguishes them. Male homosexuals share this female structure.
@CratessetarC Homosexuality is a wrong desire. It shortens your lifespan for one. Any behavior that shortens the lifespan is considered unnatural. Homosexuality is also bad for a person's mental state of mind. It causes depression and other risky behaviors such as promiscuity, and can often lead to odd sexual practices. This is one sure way to tell if someone has become mentally ill is via their behavior. The continuation of certain acts of conduct despite the risks involved.
@MasterCSX What you are suggesting is the equivalent of expecting a woman to suppress her feelings as a woman and become a man. Most people would say such a thing would be rather silly, but this is what you are trying to say. Violence is a momentary decisive action. A persons sexuality is part and parcel of who they are, for their entire lives. Unfortunately. that book you're reading from has a skewed version of reality.
@4boySonic You obviously know NOTHING about human behavior. Sexual desires form just like any other desire. Via environment. Hormones or a lack thereof can also play a part. . The same with temperament and any other human behavior. Point is, unnatural desires can spring up from anywhere at any time. Even via medication. There are drugs that can affect a persons desires or even desire suicide. There are all sorts of behavioral desires. And not all of them are right. ESPECIALLY Homo.
@MasterCSX I think certain people, especially those with a religious agenda, deliberately overstate the impact of life experiences on sexuality. This is mainly done in an effort to save face. After all, how can a creator who is against homosexuality, be responsible for creating homosexuals? It must be something they or someone else has done to them. God couldn't possibly be responsible, ...right?
BTW, Have you seen the movie Paul? Very funny movie. You should watch it.
@4boySonic You're missing the point. You're limited mentally. Very limited. And i'm not going to waste too much time here. I taught you about human desires. Its apart of having free will. Your desires do not make you. Your actions are what makes you. They make you or condemn you. Desires are meaningless without the action. You can desire all you want,...but without the action,.....you're innocent. ACTIONS CONDEMN,...not the desire. God do not create murders, thieves or HOMOS.
Homosexuality is a mental illness. If men started sticking knives in their eyes, would that be a mental illness? Yes, because the eyes are for seeing, and these people would be making themselves blind.
Let's us the example of the rectum. The rectum or anus, or butt hole, is used to release the waste from the human body. Homosexuals are putting penises and other foreign objects in the anus (butt hole), and then saying they are in love with the man who they are having sex with. That is sick!
In the Bible in the Old Testament when Israel would wander away from God and not follow His commandments wallowing in sin ,worshiping other gods,God would raise up a enemy to come in and destroy them all,the Babylonians,the Nazis ,today America has abandoned God and God is raising up the destroyer his name is Islam!
Look i tried to not admit to myself I'm gay but after 3 of trying i just couldn't like or love girls! Also i wouldn't chose to be gay and the reason why is because at school I get beat up called names and hated every day! SO WHY WOULD I CHOSE!!
@crashpilot2 No such thing as gay. Its only a desire. Like the desire to commit murder. Or the desire to be with an animal, a child, the desire to steal or to have multiple wives. The desire to overeat, to fight and be angry. Or the desire to have sex with dead people, or the desire to live or to die. Non of those can be a reality without the act. If you desire to die, you can't do it unless you do it. Until then.... its only a desire.
@MasterCSX So theres no such thing as being straight, its only a desire to have sex with another woman. Until then its only a desire. Thank you so much for clearing that up.
@leatopia You'll never see the term "straight" or "homosexual" or any other words used to describe sexual desires, in any ancient text. These are new terms brought on by the gay movement used to identify sexual desires (mid-19th century) in order to normalize their own. We're living in a different age. An age of "Sexual freedom" where the attempt to normalize all sorts of sexual behavior is existing. Like bestiality or zoophilia, Necrophilia, etc..
@MasterCSX You are so wrong its not even funny. Id advise you to really think about the BS you are spewing. Also no one is talking about Bestiality, zoophila or Necro. Come on! Its simple, One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple. You are so blinded by that BS argument "oh No! they are forcing to except all sexual desires now" that you don't even realize Bestiality is already legal in 17 states. Yet homosexuality 0. Yeah theres some real force there. Please grow up.
@leatopia "The line ends there"....NO thats where you want it to end. Homos want it one way. Their way. And even by that logic you are wrong. Where it ends is the fact that its not beneficial for you or society. Or morally for that matter. But you choose to ignore the harms by using what all the other sexual deviants use...EXCUSES. You want it to end there. But logic won't allow for it. Neither will life.
@MasterCSX sexual deviant? don't get ahead of yourself kid: theres nothing deviant about something thats natural. Also whats the repercussions of homosexuality? none. What are the benefits? there a shit load ask any self respecting GLBT personnel. i don't even have to tell you that. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Society wont allow it huh? well considering that today there are more americans in favor or LGBT equal rights, id say otherwise.
@leatopia Don't waste your time on MasterCSX, I've talked to him before under his other account (SaltineCrackAss) and all he does is rant out homophobic insults.
"One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple."←Can you explain me why I can't love my dog? Why denied me that right?
"Bestiality is already legal in 17 states. Yet homosexuality 0. "←Homosexuality is legal everywhere, what it can be illegal is homosexual sex or homosexual marriage. Same for zoosexuality, what it is illegal is zoosexual sex. You can't make a sexual orientation illegal, that would be seriously unconstitutional and a violation of human rights.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Because an animal cant say i love you back, theres no consent so then then emotions are not recognized. As i said before 2 humans loving each other is a simple concept, yet people act like it cant happen but we see it everyday. Love has no race gender or age (excluding kids and sex)- You may not think its possible but its certainly true. Also yes its not illegal to be gay, but people are HEAVILY discriminated against for it, so it might as well be. Try reading the LGBT news.
"Because an animal cant say i love you back, theres no consent so then then emotions are not recognized."←False, words are not the only way to express emotions, you can express emotions with actions and body language. That is how dogs express emotions. My dog cuddles with me, french kisses me and wags his tail, you think he is expressing hate or love?
PS: I support homosexual rights. I made a comment to you because you don't seem to support zoosexual rights. and you want to interfere.
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo its obvious your dog is expressing love and affection- i believe every living being is capable of it. The difference here is were are talking about Humans loving each other and humans with other species. Im not saying its impossible for someone to love their dog, cat bird or rat- but don't expect me to take an animals love/feelings and emotions on a higher lvl than another human beings.
IF you think human love is "higher" level than animal human love, good for you that is your personal opinion and I respect it, but when you say humans should only love humans and that is the line, you pretty much saying that loving a non-human should be illegal, and I do have problem with that statement.
Why that has to be the line? Why you trying to sop us from loving animals? Can't you live and let live?
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Are you trolling or serious? As i said i value human interaction far greater than those of animals- now if you wish to love a pet good for you, but i personally don't see much in it for as i said with an animal which cannot confirm by a humans legal level of acceptance the proof and realizations of the situation. The other reason why i don't care for it is simply because its out of the species- good you love your pet but at the end of the day its still a pet no matter what.
I'm not a troll, sorry if I may sound like one O.o
OK, I don't mind if you think all that about humans+animal relationships, as long as you don't interfere with them and avoid doing comments that are harmful to them. Can you do that?
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo but i never did interfere with such relations- i said Bestiality is legal in what 17 states. While Homosexuality is Legal (though only because of the constitution) and Gay Marriage in 6: its still looked down upon very heavily, though is getting better. To me as i said human relations come first- fix all the issues between ourselves before moving on to that outside the species. So in todays time and age- thats a deal already broken.
"i never did interfere"←YOU SAID: "One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple."←That says animal+human is nit acceptable and that polygamy and bigamy is not acceptable.
I think is better to say: " What eve happens between consenting adults is nobody else busyness." saying that doesn't exclude poeple like saying ONE "One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple."
Anyways, really sorry to annoy you, have a nice day :D
@leatopia The main reason bestiality is still illegal, is because you can never be sure the animal is consenting, since they do not speak in the same tongues as we do, just saying
@InspiredByLoki You don't need speech to consent. Consent can also come from behavior. If you climb on top of me and proceed to have sex with me,...that is a clear sign of consent.
@crashpilot2 Same as with a pedophile. Or zoophile. Bestiality is now legal in 16 states. You're going to comment how it harms animals etc...but they have their case just as you do. They justify their acts just as you do. In other words, you feel about zoophiles what I feel about homosexuals. They can't change your perception, just as you cannot change mine. It works both ways. You can't have it one way. And thats what homos want. to have everything go their way.
@fashionhistorylover Sure they can. Its been proven in the court of law for Necros and Animals. They have their rights too. Bet you thought homos were the only group fighting for their sexual perversion. WRONG...others are using your methods to gain ground. And bestiality is now legal in 16 states and growing. Science has proven that animals can indeed give sexual consent. Try raping a pitbull and see what happens.Necros get consent from their partners BEFORE they pass via LEGAL contract.
Children can consent to simple stuff, they can consent to more complicated stuff the older they get.
Animals can also consent and just like children they can consent to more stuff as they get older, a puppy can't consent to sex, but a fully mature dog can.
Dead bodies can't consent, but the human can consent when alive by leaving a last will document saying what should happen to his body, like donating the organs, donating to an university, or donating to a necrophile.
@crashpilot2 In the court of law, it is action that condemns a man. Not the desire. You can desire to murder someone all you want. Until you commit the act, you're innocent. This is the same with any and all human behavior. We can't control desires that may spring up within us. But we can control how we act towards the desire. It is the act that condemns you. Not the desire itself.
@crashpilot2 Human behavior is made up of 2 key points. Desire and actions. We act on what we desire. Actions don't exist without the desire. But desires can exist without the action. Because action is always choice. Humans desire all sorts of unnatural things from time to time. That does not mean we should act on everything we desire. It is the act that condemns a man. Not the desire. Desires can come and go.
There may not be a cure for the desire, but how we act towards the desire (sexuality) is certainly by CHOICE. Homosexuality as with any sexuality is by CHOICE.
THat was hilarious and such a great video - if im not mistaken the correct word im looking for is SATIRE and yes theirs was on point lmao im still laughin great video to support the HOMOSEXUAL cause!!
AIDS - originally named GRID (gay-related immunodeficiency disease) until activist homosexuals pressured the medical establishment to switch to the generic acronym AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) - was the ultimate public relations nightmare. It gave society a brand-new reason to fear and shun homosexuals - namely, concern over becoming infected with a nightmarish new disease.
Thu BOSTON –– Saying important First Amendment issues are at stake, the American Civil Liberties Union is stepping in to defend a group that advocates sex between men and boys against a lawsuit brought by the family of a murdered 10-year-old.
The gay political movement largely follows the methods described in Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen's strategy manual After the Ball. This includes making themselves seem victimized in order to gain sympathy—carrying out a "conversion of the average American's emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media," and marginalizing people and groups who oppose homosexual behavior.
At the 1971 APA conference, Kameny (gay activist) grabbed the microphone and yelled, "Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you."
Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.
@ChiT0wnLegend "Homosexuals forged APA credentials"... looked that up and found that only extremely biased websites (by biased I mean conservatives and Christians made them) contained this information. Sorry, but you're going to need a little more than a few websites and books composed by paranoid homophobes to convince the public of your supposed "gay uprising".
On June 7, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.
“But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay‐lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a grou
of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes
@Mystrymeat Kay Tobin Lahausen, co-author of The Gay Crusaders, describes a variety of activism. “We did all sorts of protests…When the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations came out of some meeting and got in his big black limousine, I remember going crazy, rocking and beating on the limousine…He had never been besieged by a bunch of homosexuals before.
@ChiT0wnLegend It's also interesting to note that only ONE article contains the information you constantly cite. If this info were factual then surely there would be multiple articles with an agreeing consensus on the events that took place. Also, there weren't any conclusive studies conducted by the APA to show, without a doubt, that homosexuality was a disorder. This shows that the "Gay is a disorder" statement was a biased and unscientific claim to begin with.
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made. Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making.
@ChiT0wnLegend The Newsweek article you derive this information from is riddled with factual errors which leads me to question it's authenticity. For one, it states LeVay was the founder of the "Gay brain" theory and that Hamer founded the "Gay gene" concept. This is incorrect as LeVay first proposed the idea of a gay gene. Furthermore, the article refers to the "born gay" concept as a hoax and criticizes LeVay's study without citing any evidence proving the statements. Now THAT is ad hominem.
@Mystrymeat DISTORTION OF DATA or OUT OF CONTEXT or CARD STACKING:
This technique is used to convince the audience by using selected information and not presenting the complete story.
Examples: "A study was done that showed eating peanut butter causes liver cancer" (the fact that later the study was later shown to be flawed or funded by the peanut butter haters and therefore suspect, is not revealed).
@ChiT0wnLegend Furthermore, it's obvious that homosexuality is not a choice, and you can test this for yourself. Look at a picture of a male and try to choose to be attracted to him... can't do it? That's because it's not merely a choice to be made. However, there is also no conclusive evidence leading to gayness being completely genetic. At this point in time one can't say whether homosexuality is genetic or not, but it's obvious that trying to change it may cause severe psychological dilemmas.
@Mystrymeat Sexual abuse is another factor that can contribute to a homosexual orientation. In these cases men are seen as unsafe, and lesbianism becomes a way of protecting against further hurt from a male. For some, lesbianism becomes a search for motherly love.
Spitzer, R. L. (2003). Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation? 200 participants reporting a change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 32:5, 403-417
@Mystrymeat There is no evidence of a "gay gene," says Douglas Abbott, Ph.D., Professor of Child and Family Studies at the University of Nebraska.
For Abbott, the answer to the nature-vs.-nurture question is very clear. "I think the primary causes of same-sex behavior are environmental and personal choice and free agency," he says. "Can someone change their orientation? The definitive answer to that is, "yes.
@ChiT0wnLegend I didn't say there was a "gay gene". If you read my statements instead of ignoring them then you'd know that. In any case, the DOMA has just been repealed... so it's pretty obvious how the governers of the U.S. feel about this topic.
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16
Weak inference is when a judgment is made with insufficient evidence, or that the conclusion does not necessarily follow from the evidence given.
For example: Ducks and geese migrate south for the winter, therefore all waterfowl migrate south for the winter. Or, most rich folks vote republican, therefore most people who vote republican are rich
@ChiT0wnLegend Your statistic is also a weak inference under that definition. You were using it to refute my statement on Obama's repealing of the DMOA, however, those statistics are based upon his presidency AS A WHOLE. Your approval rating has very little to do with the topic at hand in that sense. Come back when you've got a statistic on THIS particular piece of legislature, not a general statistic on a man's presidency over the course of 3 years. Your conclusion remains invalid.
@ChiT0wnLegend Plus, if you actually read my comments (noticed that you're ignoring the details again) I stated it's obvious how the GOVERNORS of the U.S. feel about the topic. Not the general public, as your poll statistics imply. History has shown our current governors are in favor of gay equality. For example, the Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal was passed on a majority of 65 to 31. More than twice the amount of senators voted in favor of the repeal than the amount which voted against it.
The military spent about $193.3 million between 2004 and 2009 to replace approximately 3,660 troops discharged under the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell," according to a new audit released days before the Pentagon is expected to detail how it plans to end its ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in uniform.
"The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of Social Workers, together representing more than 477,000 health and mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus there is no need for a 'cure'."
@Mystrymeat An organizations's particular stance on a topic represents the views of the leadership, and is not necessarily indicative of the majority of member's positions.
I.E. - China is a communist country, therefore 1,331,460,000 Chinese are pro-communism.
"According to an Internet survey in 2000, the tolerance level of Chinese people towards homosexuality has already improved a lot. The following are the figures:
Among the 10,792 surveyed, 48.15 percent (5196) were in favor, 30.9 percent (3247) were against, 14.46 percent (1560) were undecided, and 7.26 percent (783) were indifferent."
To teach about China and Chinese culture, it is essential to understand the geographic and ethnic diversity in China in order to avoid creating or strengthening the stereotypes of China.
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t is important to understand that not all Chinese are alike or eat the same foods or talk the same way, or even think the same.
@ChiT0wnLegend If representative samples are of that much importance here, then you've refuted your own statistics. Out of the 45,000 people who took the Obama approval poll, 40% disapproved. You used this to say that, overall, his disapproval is significantly high. However, now that you say we need strong representative samples, all of your claims are irrelevant. 40% of 45,000 is 18,000. 18,000 out of 4 million Americans is roughly equivalent to .0000045% Ergo, your samples are just as poor.
@ChiT0wnLegend 10+ Studies doesn't justify the context under which you used the information to begin with. You used it as a way of denouncing the government's decision to repeal the federal ban on gay marriage. However, the statistic you provided was not based on this piece of legislature alone, it was based on Obama's 3-year span of presidency. There is a vast amount of difference between America's opinions on Obama's presidency as a whole, and their opinions on a just-now-passed legislature.
@ChiT0wnLegend Now your conservative bias shows it's true colors. No further discussion here, you've just made it obvious that you're only here to push a one-sided argument which is backed by weak information with nothing but conservative and homophobic bias to support it. 470,000 medical professionals from various institutions of rigorous study don't lie, regardless of whether or not the APA just so happened to have a break-in at a meeting a few decades ago. Get with the times.
"470,000 medical professionals from various institutions of rigorous study don't lie..."
MISUSE OF STATISTICS:
Some examples: Average results are reported, but not the amount of variation around the averages. A percent or fraction is presented, but not the sample size as in "9 out of 10 dentists recommend...".
VIRTUE WORDS or GLITTERING GENERALITY:
These words are used to dupe us into accepting of things with examining the evidence behind them.
This is a way that a speaker convinces an audience that an idea is good because they are the same ideas of the vast majority of people like yourself.
Examples: "This is the will of the People", "Most Americans...". Another example would be when the speaker tells a story about a family or people that are "just like you" to reinforce the speaker's point of view.
Anti-Gays will ALWAYS exist, kinda like cockroaches. Therefore lesbians/gays, you're wasting your life explaining who you are to the ignorant minority.
...Just leave them to stew in their own little bubble of ignorance & enjoy the one life you have...Why do you care? Especially as you know it's not something you can change?
blacks arnt the only ones to ever be enslaved, pretty much every culture has experienced it for instance cornwall in england was regularly raided by the barbery pirates from north africa and the middle east. they would capture christians and then ransom back anyone important, if you were seen to be a worker ( tanned, rough skin on hands etc) they wouldnt bother and just put you straight into slavery, puts a different light on it dont ya think
@bobmegee Blacks and Native Americans are the only ones who have been enslaved in America. So other slavery is kind of irrelevant to our countries condition in the 21st century.
@dasanmitchell Umm,...its the truth. Chinese were forced labor to complete the railroad from the west to the midwest in the 1800s. The rail was built with Chinese blood. I've worked for them for a long time now. I know. Look it up.
@dasanmitchell Actually its not an opinion at all. Even back then they admitted it. Take for example: Chinese Slavery in America, by Charles Frederick Holder, The North American Review Vol. 165, Sep. 1897 The article gives many examples. Including one where representatives of the Chinese Emperor filed a writ of Habeas Corpus in a legal battle over such a slave. You should keep in mind it was not just railway workers. Countless young Chinese Women were imported as sex slaves during the Gold Rush.
@PriapusChester Well yes it is easy to say whatever you want on YouTube, I won't argue with you on that. No homosexuality isn't a disorder as the definition of psychological disorder is when it interferes with living a functional life. It's difficult to get people to understand this, most see a psychological disorder as something that differs from a cultural norm; however since no one can agree on what "normal" even is there's no way to determine what is different when we're all different.
@PriapusChester Hello, I haven't talked to you in a while. How have you been? Apparently we have another "homosexuality is a sickness" person. Every video I hit on here always has at least one person who refuses to listen to reason; but at least this one (so far) isn't as stupid as that other idiot you and I were dealing with a while back.
i dont agree, being a pedophile is a disorder right?, then why isnt homosexuality a disorder?
Is it simply because the homosexual disorder does not hurt anyone? thaths not a good way of determening wheter something is a disorder or not at least not according to me
@unfad1ng No, homosexuality isn't a disease; and from what you're saying about hormonal imbalances that would mean you think of it as a psychological disorder which it isn't. We are all born with a certain sexual orientation that is between homosexual and heterosexual. It's more common for people to lean towards heterosexual, but some lean towards homosexual. It's in no way a disease, and to call it such can cause psychological damage to those who are homosexual.
Well, i asume you call autism a physcologial disorder. Calling autistic people that can cause psychological damage to autistic people...
Its the exact same thing with homosexuality, it doesnt matter if gay people get sad when their sexual orientation is called a disorder, it doesnt change what it is.
Homosexuality occurs when theres not enough male or female hormones for the brain to devlop into its natural state
@unfad1ng Autism is a psychological disorder, it's listed in the DSM; however homosexuality isn't a psychological disorder and it's been removed from the DSM. I'll lend you my copy and show you. I don't know where you get your information from, it sounds like you're trying to rationalize it from a scientific viewpoint. It's not a bad way to look at things, however these people are still gay and nothing will change that and it does hurt them to say it's a disorder. Do you have a medical degree?
The reason why it was removed is because of the pressure from homosexual rights organisations not because of any new discoveries,
I view it as a disorder in the same sense as autism, and to be fair id like to remove autism from being a disorder too, at least high functioning autism and aspergers syndrom because its no more a disorder than homosexuality. Some even call normal people for normaldisordered.
No i dont have a medical degree and im not an expert, but this is my view.
I could be wrong but from my viewpoint it seems irrational not to regard it as a disorder, because as we all know its not a choice right? and its not entirely genetical becasue a "gay gene" would never have been able to survive in nature..
So what is it then? if its no disorder and no choice and not genetical? what is it?
Furthermore i want to clearify that i do not have anything whatsoever against homosexuals in the same way as i do not have anything agaisnt autistic people
@unfad1ng No it's not a choice, but that doesn't make it a disorder. I didn't choose to dislike raw onions, and my brother didn't choose to like raw onions; so which one of us has the onion disorder? It DOES hurt people to tell them their natural feelings are a disorder, it's been known to cause depression and that is a serious psychological disorder that can cause death is some cases. You want to know what it is, it just is. It's a natural part of our world like anything else is.
@unfad1ng I actually though I was having a civl conversation with you, apparently I'm not. I care very much for people with psychological disorders, that's why I'm working on a psychology degree. It's not your place to say what is natural or unnatural. I have sex with my husband and we don't reproduce, so do we have a disorder? Do you have a medical degree at all, have you at least studied psychology? I see no need to continue talking to you since you're going to use childish insults, bye.
It doesnt matter which views are the most politically correct in todays society.
Its important to question societys conventional views.
But as soon as you state something as obvious as homosexuality is unatural, you are accused of being a homophob and you often get accused of being a nazi or a religious fundamentalist when you state that obvious truth.
Im not at alla religious or a nazi.
Im just stating what to me is obvious.
im all for gayrights despite me thinking its unatural
@unfad1ng Well the reason people start screaming about religion is because it's usually the religious fanatics that attack homosexuals, I'm sure you've heard of a few of them- Fred Phelps is a big one. The thing is, it's important for those of us who push for gay rights to understand that not every Christians is a hate obsessed gay basher. Society has a very negative view of homosexuality; however that has been changing (slowly) for the better. There's a lot of fear over this issue.
@unfad1ng What is natural or unnatural is basically an ethical question. Some would say that replacing a bad heart with a good one is unnatural which would make it unethical, and yet others would say that with the capability of replacing that bad heart it's unethical to not do something to help. A psychological disorder is something that interferes with living a productive life, it's when people can't take care of themselves. Homosexuals support themselves just as heterosexuals do.
@unfad1ng I don't exactly believe there is a "gay gene" as some people as, but I don't rule out that certain hormones from the mother probably do create that childs sexual orientation. The way I see it, if the mothers body has determined that the baby will be gay than that is nature speaking and we (the human race) have no right to defy what nature has set in motion. We do mostly agree on this, it's been pleasant to speak with you :)
@unfad1ng Biology is a hard science, meaning its roots are founded in facts.. I think some people view the differences as abnormalities, I'm fascinated by how the different traits and desires make up a person. It's these differences that make the world such an amazing place. We're all attracted to a certain kind of person, some like a mate of the opposite sex but same skin color, some only want a mate of the opposite sex and different skin color, and to some they don't care.
@unfad1ng Variation is necessary, think about how boring this world would be if we were all alike. There have been amazing contributions to society made by gays, and if these people were straight they wouldn't be the same person; so their contributions might not have ever been made. The world is truly a beautiful place, if we can put an end to the bigotry against gays then society itself will become better. I look forward to the day when gays will achieve equal rights, they enrich our world.
@unfad1ng The human race contributes to it's own growth, many different people have done so much good for us, even by accident. Just look at Rosa Parks and Constance McMillen, they were only trying to live their lives when fate made them into heroes. If we can embrace our differences as a thing of beauty instead of a reason for fear than we could accomplish even more. I'm hopeful for a future with less hate and fear; I know it will never go away but less would be a start towards a better world
Excellent parody!
thomaseshuis 2 weeks ago
This is just to mock Christians, it's made up guys, lol. Christians DON'T hate gays, we treat everyone the same!
ItsSoMe2011 3 weeks ago
Is everything natural right? I DARE one homosexual to answer that question.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
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Please visit my channel for the unpopular truth about homosexuality.
A person does not need hatred or any kind of phobia in order to acknowledge important differences between heterosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption and homosexual attraction / behavior / marriage / adoption. Even non-religious people know this.
Homosexual activists, with support from the media, have succeeded at framing themselves as noble victims; it's an effective way to push a social agenda.
lightandbeautiful 3 months ago
People don't realise this is sarcastic!
thatdelightfulchap 4 months ago
@thatdelightfulchap I think they do, it's just the topic is a serious issue for many people. This skit is hilarious though. I've seen it a dozen times and still laugh all the way through.
4boySonic 4 months ago
There is no ¨cure¨ for anyone's sexuality, whether homosexual or even pedophile. We must accept people for who they are. No one gets to choose their sexuality.
4boySonic 4 months ago
@4boySonic You cannot choose your desire fool. You can have the desire to murder, rob and kill. Don't mean you have to go out and do it simply because you have the desire.You can ALWAYS CHOOSE your actions.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
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@MasterCSX Isn't that what I said? A person's sexuality isn't a choice. Or in your words, "you cannot choose your desire". If you have no choice in your desires, then obviously the choices we make in life are going to be reflections of the desires we never chose. Comprendez..fool?
4boySonic 3 months ago
@MasterCSX sexuality is how you live your life sexually. This denotes action. Homosexual describes the desire. Homosexuality describes the lifestyle. All lifestyles are by CHOICE. PERIOD.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
@MasterCSX Lifestyles are always a choice, whereas your innate sexuality is not. As this brilliantly funny video demonstrates. You can pretend to be someone you're not with all your heart, but no amount of pretending is going to change who you are at heart.
4boySonic 3 months ago
@4boySonic Oh so if I have desire to murder someone I should just do it? Bad logic kiddo. And sexuality does not denote desire. Sexuality is action. ACTING on the desire. There is a difference. You can deny your unnatural desires and wait for them to pass. Or suppress them forever. Its your CHOICE. Violent people have the unnatural desire to hurt and kills. Just because he has the desire, does not mean he has to act it out.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
@MasterCSX Oh dear, you need an education. I'll try to explain it as simply as I can. Forget your violence analogy. It is ridiculous and cannot be compared with sexuality. When a boy is born he usually comes with a masculinized brain, and girls usually arrive with a feminized brain. In adults we can observe structural differences between male and female brains. There is a structure known as the dimorphic nucleus from which we can distinguishes them. Male homosexuals share this female structure.
4boySonic 3 months ago
@4boySonic "God do not create thieves murderers, or homos." - You create yourself by committing the act.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
@MasterCSX "Man, what is it with these people? - Paul the alien.
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@MasterCSX Another christian obsessed with homosexuality. Your true colors are showing. Now run before someone else realizes you're a closet case.
CratessetarC 1 month ago
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@CratessetarC Homosexuality is a wrong desire. It shortens your lifespan for one. Any behavior that shortens the lifespan is considered unnatural. Homosexuality is also bad for a person's mental state of mind. It causes depression and other risky behaviors such as promiscuity, and can often lead to odd sexual practices. This is one sure way to tell if someone has become mentally ill is via their behavior. The continuation of certain acts of conduct despite the risks involved.
MasterCSX 1 month ago
@MasterCSX What you are suggesting is the equivalent of expecting a woman to suppress her feelings as a woman and become a man. Most people would say such a thing would be rather silly, but this is what you are trying to say. Violence is a momentary decisive action. A persons sexuality is part and parcel of who they are, for their entire lives. Unfortunately. that book you're reading from has a skewed version of reality.
4boySonic 3 months ago
@4boySonic You obviously know NOTHING about human behavior. Sexual desires form just like any other desire. Via environment. Hormones or a lack thereof can also play a part. . The same with temperament and any other human behavior. Point is, unnatural desires can spring up from anywhere at any time. Even via medication. There are drugs that can affect a persons desires or even desire suicide. There are all sorts of behavioral desires. And not all of them are right. ESPECIALLY Homo.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
@MasterCSX I think certain people, especially those with a religious agenda, deliberately overstate the impact of life experiences on sexuality. This is mainly done in an effort to save face. After all, how can a creator who is against homosexuality, be responsible for creating homosexuals? It must be something they or someone else has done to them. God couldn't possibly be responsible, ...right?
BTW, Have you seen the movie Paul? Very funny movie. You should watch it.
4boySonic 3 months ago
@4boySonic You're missing the point. You're limited mentally. Very limited. And i'm not going to waste too much time here. I taught you about human desires. Its apart of having free will. Your desires do not make you. Your actions are what makes you. They make you or condemn you. Desires are meaningless without the action. You can desire all you want,...but without the action,.....you're innocent. ACTIONS CONDEMN,...not the desire. God do not create murders, thieves or HOMOS.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
They're an assholes. Homosexuality can't be cured this way. Its therapy!
MyYayo10 4 months ago
Forgive my heterosexual language.
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krane121 5 months ago
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Homosexuality is a mental illness. If men started sticking knives in their eyes, would that be a mental illness? Yes, because the eyes are for seeing, and these people would be making themselves blind.
Let's us the example of the rectum. The rectum or anus, or butt hole, is used to release the waste from the human body. Homosexuals are putting penises and other foreign objects in the anus (butt hole), and then saying they are in love with the man who they are having sex with. That is sick!
MsPamAnn 6 months ago
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In the Bible in the Old Testament when Israel would wander away from God and not follow His commandments wallowing in sin ,worshiping other gods,God would raise up a enemy to come in and destroy them all,the Babylonians,the Nazis ,today America has abandoned God and God is raising up the destroyer his name is Islam!
majorl311 6 months ago
@DrownedAtLakeBodom
Aww that's cute, a Nazi. Silly little Nazi.
Icommentrandomvids 7 months ago 9
IT IS NOT A CHOICE OR A CURABLE THING!!!
Look i tried to not admit to myself I'm gay but after 3 of trying i just couldn't like or love girls! Also i wouldn't chose to be gay and the reason why is because at school I get beat up called names and hated every day! SO WHY WOULD I CHOSE!!
geckosist 8 months ago
@crashpilot2 No such thing as gay. Its only a desire. Like the desire to commit murder. Or the desire to be with an animal, a child, the desire to steal or to have multiple wives. The desire to overeat, to fight and be angry. Or the desire to have sex with dead people, or the desire to live or to die. Non of those can be a reality without the act. If you desire to die, you can't do it unless you do it. Until then.... its only a desire.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
@MasterCSX So theres no such thing as being straight, its only a desire to have sex with another woman. Until then its only a desire. Thank you so much for clearing that up.
leatopia 8 months ago
@leatopia You'll never see the term "straight" or "homosexual" or any other words used to describe sexual desires, in any ancient text. These are new terms brought on by the gay movement used to identify sexual desires (mid-19th century) in order to normalize their own. We're living in a different age. An age of "Sexual freedom" where the attempt to normalize all sorts of sexual behavior is existing. Like bestiality or zoophilia, Necrophilia, etc..
MasterCSX 8 months ago
@MasterCSX You are so wrong its not even funny. Id advise you to really think about the BS you are spewing. Also no one is talking about Bestiality, zoophila or Necro. Come on! Its simple, One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple. You are so blinded by that BS argument "oh No! they are forcing to except all sexual desires now" that you don't even realize Bestiality is already legal in 17 states. Yet homosexuality 0. Yeah theres some real force there. Please grow up.
leatopia 8 months ago
@leatopia "The line ends there"....NO thats where you want it to end. Homos want it one way. Their way. And even by that logic you are wrong. Where it ends is the fact that its not beneficial for you or society. Or morally for that matter. But you choose to ignore the harms by using what all the other sexual deviants use...EXCUSES. You want it to end there. But logic won't allow for it. Neither will life.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
@MasterCSX sexual deviant? don't get ahead of yourself kid: theres nothing deviant about something thats natural. Also whats the repercussions of homosexuality? none. What are the benefits? there a shit load ask any self respecting GLBT personnel. i don't even have to tell you that. You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Society wont allow it huh? well considering that today there are more americans in favor or LGBT equal rights, id say otherwise.
leatopia 8 months ago
@leatopia Don't waste your time on MasterCSX, I've talked to him before under his other account (SaltineCrackAss) and all he does is rant out homophobic insults.
Poochalot 7 months ago
@leatopia
"One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple."←Can you explain me why I can't love my dog? Why denied me that right?
"Bestiality is already legal in 17 states. Yet homosexuality 0. "←Homosexuality is legal everywhere, what it can be illegal is homosexual sex or homosexual marriage. Same for zoosexuality, what it is illegal is zoosexual sex. You can't make a sexual orientation illegal, that would be seriously unconstitutional and a violation of human rights.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Because an animal cant say i love you back, theres no consent so then then emotions are not recognized. As i said before 2 humans loving each other is a simple concept, yet people act like it cant happen but we see it everyday. Love has no race gender or age (excluding kids and sex)- You may not think its possible but its certainly true. Also yes its not illegal to be gay, but people are HEAVILY discriminated against for it, so it might as well be. Try reading the LGBT news.
leatopia 6 months ago
@leatopia
"Because an animal cant say i love you back, theres no consent so then then emotions are not recognized."←False, words are not the only way to express emotions, you can express emotions with actions and body language. That is how dogs express emotions. My dog cuddles with me, french kisses me and wags his tail, you think he is expressing hate or love?
PS: I support homosexual rights. I made a comment to you because you don't seem to support zoosexual rights. and you want to interfere.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo its obvious your dog is expressing love and affection- i believe every living being is capable of it. The difference here is were are talking about Humans loving each other and humans with other species. Im not saying its impossible for someone to love their dog, cat bird or rat- but don't expect me to take an animals love/feelings and emotions on a higher lvl than another human beings.
leatopia 6 months ago
@leatopia
IF you think human love is "higher" level than animal human love, good for you that is your personal opinion and I respect it, but when you say humans should only love humans and that is the line, you pretty much saying that loving a non-human should be illegal, and I do have problem with that statement.
Why that has to be the line? Why you trying to sop us from loving animals? Can't you live and let live?
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo Are you trolling or serious? As i said i value human interaction far greater than those of animals- now if you wish to love a pet good for you, but i personally don't see much in it for as i said with an animal which cannot confirm by a humans legal level of acceptance the proof and realizations of the situation. The other reason why i don't care for it is simply because its out of the species- good you love your pet but at the end of the day its still a pet no matter what.
leatopia 6 months ago
@leatopia
I'm not a troll, sorry if I may sound like one O.o
OK, I don't mind if you think all that about humans+animal relationships, as long as you don't interfere with them and avoid doing comments that are harmful to them. Can you do that?
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 months ago
@DogsneedpIeasuretoo but i never did interfere with such relations- i said Bestiality is legal in what 17 states. While Homosexuality is Legal (though only because of the constitution) and Gay Marriage in 6: its still looked down upon very heavily, though is getting better. To me as i said human relations come first- fix all the issues between ourselves before moving on to that outside the species. So in todays time and age- thats a deal already broken.
leatopia 6 months ago
@leatopia
"i never did interfere"←YOU SAID: "One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple."←That says animal+human is nit acceptable and that polygamy and bigamy is not acceptable.
I think is better to say: " What eve happens between consenting adults is nobody else busyness." saying that doesn't exclude poeple like saying ONE "One living human loving Another. Thats it, the line ends there, simple."
Anyways, really sorry to annoy you, have a nice day :D
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 months ago
@leatopia The main reason bestiality is still illegal, is because you can never be sure the animal is consenting, since they do not speak in the same tongues as we do, just saying
InspiredByLoki 6 months ago
@InspiredByLoki You don't need speech to consent. Consent can also come from behavior. If you climb on top of me and proceed to have sex with me,...that is a clear sign of consent.
MasterCSX 3 months ago
@MasterCSX Homosexuality is consentual unlike necrophilia, pedophilia, and beastiality.
fashionhistorylover 7 months ago
@fashionhistorylover WRONG
MasterCSX 7 months ago
@crashpilot2 Homosexuality BTW is the lifestyle. Your sexual actions towards the desire. And as i've taught you, all actions are by choice.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
@crashpilot2 Same as with a pedophile. Or zoophile. Bestiality is now legal in 16 states. You're going to comment how it harms animals etc...but they have their case just as you do. They justify their acts just as you do. In other words, you feel about zoophiles what I feel about homosexuals. They can't change your perception, just as you cannot change mine. It works both ways. You can't have it one way. And thats what homos want. to have everything go their way.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
@MasterCSX Animals, dead bodies, and children can't give consent.
fashionhistorylover 7 months ago
@fashionhistorylover Sure they can. Its been proven in the court of law for Necros and Animals. They have their rights too. Bet you thought homos were the only group fighting for their sexual perversion. WRONG...others are using your methods to gain ground. And bestiality is now legal in 16 states and growing. Science has proven that animals can indeed give sexual consent. Try raping a pitbull and see what happens.Necros get consent from their partners BEFORE they pass via LEGAL contract.
MasterCSX 7 months ago
@fashionhistorylover
Children can consent to simple stuff, they can consent to more complicated stuff the older they get.
Animals can also consent and just like children they can consent to more stuff as they get older, a puppy can't consent to sex, but a fully mature dog can.
Dead bodies can't consent, but the human can consent when alive by leaving a last will document saying what should happen to his body, like donating the organs, donating to an university, or donating to a necrophile.
DogsneedpIeasuretoo 6 months ago
@crashpilot2 In the court of law, it is action that condemns a man. Not the desire. You can desire to murder someone all you want. Until you commit the act, you're innocent. This is the same with any and all human behavior. We can't control desires that may spring up within us. But we can control how we act towards the desire. It is the act that condemns you. Not the desire itself.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
@crashpilot2 Human behavior is made up of 2 key points. Desire and actions. We act on what we desire. Actions don't exist without the desire. But desires can exist without the action. Because action is always choice. Humans desire all sorts of unnatural things from time to time. That does not mean we should act on everything we desire. It is the act that condemns a man. Not the desire. Desires can come and go.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
There may not be a cure for the desire, but how we act towards the desire (sexuality) is certainly by CHOICE. Homosexuality as with any sexuality is by CHOICE.
MasterCSX 8 months ago
LMAO the same bed..... we learned that in our classe
videoGAMESgurl 9 months ago
THERES NO RUSH xD
kell1reilly2 9 months ago
this is soo lammmeeee
iloveilovemandy 9 months ago
THat was hilarious and such a great video - if im not mistaken the correct word im looking for is SATIRE and yes theirs was on point lmao im still laughin great video to support the HOMOSEXUAL cause!!
313H3ArtBr3ak3r 10 months ago
i dont think their funny
gapuckable 10 months ago
AIDS - originally named GRID (gay-related immunodeficiency disease) until activist homosexuals pressured the medical establishment to switch to the generic acronym AIDS (acquired immune deficiency syndrome) - was the ultimate public relations nightmare. It gave society a brand-new reason to fear and shun homosexuals - namely, concern over becoming infected with a nightmarish new disease.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
ACLU defends polygamy
Legal group backs 'freedom of choice'
Posted: June 25, 2005
1:00 am Eastern
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The president of the AmericanCivil Liberties Union says polygamy is among the "fundamental rights" that her organization will continue to defend.
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ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
ACLU To Represent NAMBLA By Martin Finucane
Associated Press Writer
Thu BOSTON –– Saying important First Amendment issues are at stake, the American Civil Liberties Union is stepping in to defend a group that advocates sex between men and boys against a lawsuit brought by the family of a murdered 10-year-old.
Thursday, Aug. 31, 2000; 5:19 p.m. EDT
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
they need to removed gays like the french king removed the knights of the templar!
beer19711971 11 months ago
The gay political movement largely follows the methods described in Marshall Kirk and Hunter Madsen's strategy manual After the Ball. This includes making themselves seem victimized in order to gain sympathy—carrying out a "conversion of the average American's emotions, mind, and will, through a planned psychological attack, in the form of propaganda fed to the nation via the media," and marginalizing people and groups who oppose homosexual behavior.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
At the 1971 APA conference, Kameny (gay activist) grabbed the microphone and yelled, "Psychiatry is the enemy incarnate. Psychiatry has waged a relentless war of extermination against us. You may take this as a declaration of war against you."
Homosexuals forged APA credentials and gained access to exhibit areas in the conference. They threatened anyone who claimed that homosexuals needed to be cured.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend "Homosexuals forged APA credentials"... looked that up and found that only extremely biased websites (by biased I mean conservatives and Christians made them) contained this information. Sorry, but you're going to need a little more than a few websites and books composed by paranoid homophobes to convince the public of your supposed "gay uprising".
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat
On June 7, 1971, Franklin Kameny wrote a letter to the Psychiatric News threatening the APA with not only more, but worse, disruptions. In this letter he states, “Our presence there was only the beginning of an increasingly intensive campaign by homosexuals to change the approach of psychiatry toward homosexuality or, failing that, to discredit psychiatry.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
NEWSWEEK 1971:
“But even more than the government, it is the psychiatrists who have experienced the full rage of the homosexual activists. Over the past two years, gay‐lib organizations have repeatedly disrupted medical meetings, and three months ago—in the movements most aggressive demonstration so far—a grou
of 30 militants broke into a meeting of the American Psychiatric Association in Washington, where they turned the staid proceedings into near chaos for twenty minutes
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat ‘We are here to denounce your authority to call us sick or mentally
disordered,’ shouted the group’s leader, Dr. Franklin Kameny, while the 2,000
shocked psychiatrists looked on in disbelief. ‘For us, as homosexuals, your
profession is the enemy incarnate. We demand that psychiatrists treat us as
human beings, not as patients to be cured!"
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat Kay Tobin Lahausen, co-author of The Gay Crusaders, describes a variety of activism. “We did all sorts of protests…When the U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations came out of some meeting and got in his big black limousine, I remember going crazy, rocking and beating on the limousine…He had never been besieged by a bunch of homosexuals before.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend It's also interesting to note that only ONE article contains the information you constantly cite. If this info were factual then surely there would be multiple articles with an agreeing consensus on the events that took place. Also, there weren't any conclusive studies conducted by the APA to show, without a doubt, that homosexuality was a disorder. This shows that the "Gay is a disorder" statement was a biased and unscientific claim to begin with.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat
An Ad Hominem is a general category of fallacies in which a claim or argument is rejected on the basis of some irrelevant fact about the author of or the person presenting the claim or argument. Typically, this fallacy involves two steps. First, an attack against the character of person making the claim, her circumstances, or her actions is made. Second, this attack is taken to be evidence against the claim or argument the person in question is making.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend The Newsweek article you derive this information from is riddled with factual errors which leads me to question it's authenticity. For one, it states LeVay was the founder of the "Gay brain" theory and that Hamer founded the "Gay gene" concept. This is incorrect as LeVay first proposed the idea of a gay gene. Furthermore, the article refers to the "born gay" concept as a hoax and criticizes LeVay's study without citing any evidence proving the statements. Now THAT is ad hominem.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat red herring
–noun
1. a smoked herring.
2. something intended to divert attention from the real problem or matter at hand; a misleading clue.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat DISTORTION OF DATA or OUT OF CONTEXT or CARD STACKING:
This technique is used to convince the audience by using selected information and not presenting the complete story.
Examples: "A study was done that showed eating peanut butter causes liver cancer" (the fact that later the study was later shown to be flawed or funded by the peanut butter haters and therefore suspect, is not revealed).
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend Furthermore, it's obvious that homosexuality is not a choice, and you can test this for yourself. Look at a picture of a male and try to choose to be attracted to him... can't do it? That's because it's not merely a choice to be made. However, there is also no conclusive evidence leading to gayness being completely genetic. At this point in time one can't say whether homosexuality is genetic or not, but it's obvious that trying to change it may cause severe psychological dilemmas.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat
Genes + Brain Wiring + Prenatal Hormonal Environment = Temperament
Parents + Peers + Experiences = Environment
Temperament + Environment = Homosexual Orientation
Julie Harren, Ph.D., LMFT
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat Sexual abuse is another factor that can contribute to a homosexual orientation. In these cases men are seen as unsafe, and lesbianism becomes a way of protecting against further hurt from a male. For some, lesbianism becomes a search for motherly love.
Spitzer, R. L. (2003). Can some gay men and lesbians change their sexual orientation? 200 participants reporting a change from homosexual to heterosexual orientation. Archives of Sexual Behavior, 32:5, 403-417
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat There is no evidence of a "gay gene," says Douglas Abbott, Ph.D., Professor of Child and Family Studies at the University of Nebraska.
For Abbott, the answer to the nature-vs.-nurture question is very clear. "I think the primary causes of same-sex behavior are environmental and personal choice and free agency," he says. "Can someone change their orientation? The definitive answer to that is, "yes.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend I didn't say there was a "gay gene". If you read my statements instead of ignoring them then you'd know that. In any case, the DOMA has just been repealed... so it's pretty obvious how the governers of the U.S. feel about this topic.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
Wednesday, February 23, 2011
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 24% of the nation's voters Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as president. Forty percent (40%) Strongly Disapprove, giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of -16
rasmussenreports com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend Being that just over 70% of the nation is registered as Christian, it's only natural that they would disapprove.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat WEAK INFERENCE:
Weak inference is when a judgment is made with insufficient evidence, or that the conclusion does not necessarily follow from the evidence given.
For example: Ducks and geese migrate south for the winter, therefore all waterfowl migrate south for the winter. Or, most rich folks vote republican, therefore most people who vote republican are rich
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend Your statistic is also a weak inference under that definition. You were using it to refute my statement on Obama's repealing of the DMOA, however, those statistics are based upon his presidency AS A WHOLE. Your approval rating has very little to do with the topic at hand in that sense. Come back when you've got a statistic on THIS particular piece of legislature, not a general statistic on a man's presidency over the course of 3 years. Your conclusion remains invalid.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend Plus, if you actually read my comments (noticed that you're ignoring the details again) I stated it's obvious how the GOVERNORS of the U.S. feel about the topic. Not the general public, as your poll statistics imply. History has shown our current governors are in favor of gay equality. For example, the Don't Ask Don't Tell repeal was passed on a majority of 65 to 31. More than twice the amount of senators voted in favor of the repeal than the amount which voted against it.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat
WASHINGTON POST:
Posted at 2:25 PM ET, 01/20/2011
Report: 'Don't ask, don't tell' cost military $193.3M over five years
By Ed O'Keefe
Updated 4:34 p.m. ET
The military spent about $193.3 million between 2004 and 2009 to replace approximately 3,660 troops discharged under the policy known as "don't ask, don't tell," according to a new audit released days before the Pentagon is expected to detail how it plans to end its ban on gays and lesbians serving openly in uniform.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend The DODT Act was repealed in 2010. Those events took place beforehand.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend
"The American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Counseling Association, the American Psychiatric Association, the American Psychological Association, the National Association of School Psychologists, and the National Association of Social Workers, together representing more than 477,000 health and mental health professionals, have all taken the position that homosexuality is not a mental disorder and thus there is no need for a 'cure'."
Just the Facts Coalition, 1999
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
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ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
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@Mystrymeat An organizations's particular stance on a topic represents the views of the leadership, and is not necessarily indicative of the majority of member's positions.
I.E. - China is a communist country, therefore 1,331,460,000 Chinese are pro-communism.
Next.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend
"According to an Internet survey in 2000, the tolerance level of Chinese people towards homosexuality has already improved a lot. The following are the figures:
Among the 10,792 surveyed, 48.15 percent (5196) were in favor, 30.9 percent (3247) were against, 14.46 percent (1560) were undecided, and 7.26 percent (783) were indifferent."
chinanews(dot)com(dot)cn October 31, 2001
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat
10792 of 1,331,460,000 = 0.0008105388070238685%
To teach about China and Chinese culture, it is essential to understand the geographic and ethnic diversity in China in order to avoid creating or strengthening the stereotypes of China.
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t is important to understand that not all Chinese are alike or eat the same foods or talk the same way, or even think the same.
einaudi cornell edu/curriculum/monkey/geographic/index asp?grade=3
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend If representative samples are of that much importance here, then you've refuted your own statistics. Out of the 45,000 people who took the Obama approval poll, 40% disapproved. You used this to say that, overall, his disapproval is significantly high. However, now that you say we need strong representative samples, all of your claims are irrelevant. 40% of 45,000 is 18,000. 18,000 out of 4 million Americans is roughly equivalent to .0000045% Ergo, your samples are just as poor.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat Wrong
1 study < 10+ studies
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend 10+ Studies doesn't justify the context under which you used the information to begin with. You used it as a way of denouncing the government's decision to repeal the federal ban on gay marriage. However, the statistic you provided was not based on this piece of legislature alone, it was based on Obama's 3-year span of presidency. There is a vast amount of difference between America's opinions on Obama's presidency as a whole, and their opinions on a just-now-passed legislature.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat Next
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend As I recall you referred to this as :
"WEAK INFERENCE:
Weak inference is when a judgment is made with insufficient evidence, or that the conclusion does not necessarily follow from the evidence given"
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat Obama = irrelevant.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@ChiT0wnLegend Now your conservative bias shows it's true colors. No further discussion here, you've just made it obvious that you're only here to push a one-sided argument which is backed by weak information with nothing but conservative and homophobic bias to support it. 470,000 medical professionals from various institutions of rigorous study don't lie, regardless of whether or not the APA just so happened to have a break-in at a meeting a few decades ago. Get with the times.
Mystrymeat 11 months ago
Wrong again , I voted for Obama.
"470,000 medical professionals from various institutions of rigorous study don't lie..."
MISUSE OF STATISTICS:
Some examples: Average results are reported, but not the amount of variation around the averages. A percent or fraction is presented, but not the sample size as in "9 out of 10 dentists recommend...".
VIRTUE WORDS or GLITTERING GENERALITY:
These words are used to dupe us into accepting of things with examining the evidence behind them.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
@Mystrymeat "Get with the times"
PLAIN FOLKS:
This is a way that a speaker convinces an audience that an idea is good because they are the same ideas of the vast majority of people like yourself.
Examples: "This is the will of the People", "Most Americans...". Another example would be when the speaker tells a story about a family or people that are "just like you" to reinforce the speaker's point of view.
ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
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ChiT0wnLegend 11 months ago
Shit is hilarious. 69 people want to eat that dike out. 8^p (i)
Midas777Touch 11 months ago
i cant help but notice nobody saying FAG was bleeped out. friggin' homos. lolz
donovanwinters96 11 months ago
Debauchery...healthy...slippery...pounding... ... ...WRONG debauchery!
guntotingtomcat 11 months ago
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Anti-Gays will ALWAYS exist, kinda like cockroaches. Therefore lesbians/gays, you're wasting your life explaining who you are to the ignorant minority.
...Just leave them to stew in their own little bubble of ignorance & enjoy the one life you have...Why do you care? Especially as you know it's not something you can change?
Peace :+)
ccappelllo 11 months ago
did nt cure their non funiness though
v74Bvdmp 11 months ago
They need a second treatment, ofcourse it DOESNT WORK!!! HAHAAH!!!
baahhhFATALITY11 11 months ago
lips is for gays
tERtasdf 11 months ago
holy crap I didn't know yokeup and wife were on tv
laxguy22655 11 months ago
AIDS is the cure
Plpoo 11 months ago
@Plpoo Then please take that cure and let me know how much better you feel afterwards.
Poochalot 11 months ago
@Plpoo aids doesnt cure anything moron
mermaidsareppl2 11 months ago
@Plpoo I want to punch you in the face
FunnyVideosAndGamez 11 months ago
"We both share a love for Jarome Iginla." HAHAHA! X()
PyperGurl 11 months ago
blacks arnt the only ones to ever be enslaved, pretty much every culture has experienced it for instance cornwall in england was regularly raided by the barbery pirates from north africa and the middle east. they would capture christians and then ransom back anyone important, if you were seen to be a worker ( tanned, rough skin on hands etc) they wouldnt bother and just put you straight into slavery, puts a different light on it dont ya think
bobmegee 11 months ago
@bobmegee Blacks and Native Americans are the only ones who have been enslaved in America. So other slavery is kind of irrelevant to our countries condition in the 21st century.
dasanmitchell 11 months ago
@dasanmitchell Chinese were rail slaves.
SaltineCrackaAss 11 months ago
@SaltineCrackaAss That's an opinion.
dasanmitchell 11 months ago
@dasanmitchell Umm,...its the truth. Chinese were forced labor to complete the railroad from the west to the midwest in the 1800s. The rail was built with Chinese blood. I've worked for them for a long time now. I know. Look it up.
SaltineCrackaAss 11 months ago
@SaltineCrackaAss Its on a border line of slavery and cheap labor. That's why I said its an opinion.
dasanmitchell 11 months ago
@dasanmitchell They didn't get paid. They were slave labor.
SaltineCrackaAss 11 months ago
@dasanmitchell Actually its not an opinion at all. Even back then they admitted it. Take for example: Chinese Slavery in America, by Charles Frederick Holder, The North American Review Vol. 165, Sep. 1897 The article gives many examples. Including one where representatives of the Chinese Emperor filed a writ of Habeas Corpus in a legal battle over such a slave. You should keep in mind it was not just railway workers. Countless young Chinese Women were imported as sex slaves during the Gold Rush.
frankensteinmoneymac 11 months ago
PERKELE LOL!
aubergine2c 1 year ago
they're going to need a second treatment
gayhater100 1 year ago 14
@gayhater100 its SARCASM DUMBASS!
addicted576 9 months ago
@Unfad!ng - you are another idiot homophobe when you lie that it's a disorder and it's so easy to claim you are for gay rights on youtube anyway
PriapusChester 1 year ago
@PriapusChester Well yes it is easy to say whatever you want on YouTube, I won't argue with you on that. No homosexuality isn't a disorder as the definition of psychological disorder is when it interferes with living a functional life. It's difficult to get people to understand this, most see a psychological disorder as something that differs from a cultural norm; however since no one can agree on what "normal" even is there's no way to determine what is different when we're all different.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@PriapusChester
You can think whatever you want but im for gay rights, i think they should be able to get maried and stuff.
I might be a homophobe but at least i have my own opinions..
unfad1ng 1 year ago
gay
xBadass 1 year ago
How come you always see an intence political debate in every comedy clip's comment box?
Parnborr 1 year ago 14
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@Parnborr because these people have nothing better to do.
wilberforcehumphries 11 months ago
@Parnborr because you're crosseyed and keep watching the same vid without realising it?
Xarcas 11 months ago
@unfad1ng - you are wrong as homosexuality is a sexuality and nothing else
PriapusChester 1 year ago
@PriapusChester Hello, I haven't talked to you in a while. How have you been? Apparently we have another "homosexuality is a sickness" person. Every video I hit on here always has at least one person who refuses to listen to reason; but at least this one (so far) isn't as stupid as that other idiot you and I were dealing with a while back.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@PriapusChester
i dont agree, being a pedophile is a disorder right?, then why isnt homosexuality a disorder?
Is it simply because the homosexual disorder does not hurt anyone? thaths not a good way of determening wheter something is a disorder or not at least not according to me
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng but that means tat beïng straight is also something like autism?
yodckmeandmyfriends 1 year ago
@yodckmeandmyfriends
No because being straight is what is natural, so its not like autism..
Theres nothing wrong with having a disorder, but please call it what is..
unfad1ng 1 year ago
Its a disease not a choice.
They cant helpt that they have a disease caused by hromonal imbalance.
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng your sick
FullmetalNinjasPro 1 year ago
@unfad1ng hahaha well be careful cuz we can pass u the disease hahahaha oh god the one that is actually sick is u homophobic person !!!
cesarinpotter 1 year ago
@cesarinpotter
im not homophobic....
im all for gay rights.
But what is being gay if its not a disease and not a choice?
I know its not a choice so it has to be a disease.
By disease i mean a hormonal imbalance during pregnancy caused the brain to devlop in a diferent way.
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Being gay is as much a disease as autism
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng No, homosexuality isn't a disease; and from what you're saying about hormonal imbalances that would mean you think of it as a psychological disorder which it isn't. We are all born with a certain sexual orientation that is between homosexual and heterosexual. It's more common for people to lean towards heterosexual, but some lean towards homosexual. It's in no way a disease, and to call it such can cause psychological damage to those who are homosexual.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
Well, i asume you call autism a physcologial disorder. Calling autistic people that can cause psychological damage to autistic people...
Its the exact same thing with homosexuality, it doesnt matter if gay people get sad when their sexual orientation is called a disorder, it doesnt change what it is.
Homosexuality occurs when theres not enough male or female hormones for the brain to devlop into its natural state
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng Autism is a psychological disorder, it's listed in the DSM; however homosexuality isn't a psychological disorder and it's been removed from the DSM. I'll lend you my copy and show you. I don't know where you get your information from, it sounds like you're trying to rationalize it from a scientific viewpoint. It's not a bad way to look at things, however these people are still gay and nothing will change that and it does hurt them to say it's a disorder. Do you have a medical degree?
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
The reason why it was removed is because of the pressure from homosexual rights organisations not because of any new discoveries,
I view it as a disorder in the same sense as autism, and to be fair id like to remove autism from being a disorder too, at least high functioning autism and aspergers syndrom because its no more a disorder than homosexuality. Some even call normal people for normaldisordered.
No i dont have a medical degree and im not an expert, but this is my view.
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@Poochalot
I could be wrong but from my viewpoint it seems irrational not to regard it as a disorder, because as we all know its not a choice right? and its not entirely genetical becasue a "gay gene" would never have been able to survive in nature..
So what is it then? if its no disorder and no choice and not genetical? what is it?
Furthermore i want to clearify that i do not have anything whatsoever against homosexuals in the same way as i do not have anything agaisnt autistic people
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng No it's not a choice, but that doesn't make it a disorder. I didn't choose to dislike raw onions, and my brother didn't choose to like raw onions; so which one of us has the onion disorder? It DOES hurt people to tell them their natural feelings are a disorder, it's been known to cause depression and that is a serious psychological disorder that can cause death is some cases. You want to know what it is, it just is. It's a natural part of our world like anything else is.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
i dont agree.
You cant compare dislike for onions with sexuality.
Because homosexuality has no evolutionary and genetical advantage for obvious reasons.
Liking or disliking onions can have genetic causes, or it can be because of enviroment that stimulates certain behaviour.
homosexuality is not simply liking or disliking, its a disorder in the brain that makes them act in an unatural way.
The whole purpose of genders and sex is to reproduce,
So obviously homosexuality is a disorder
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng I actually though I was having a civl conversation with you, apparently I'm not. I care very much for people with psychological disorders, that's why I'm working on a psychology degree. It's not your place to say what is natural or unnatural. I have sex with my husband and we don't reproduce, so do we have a disorder? Do you have a medical degree at all, have you at least studied psychology? I see no need to continue talking to you since you're going to use childish insults, bye.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
Well i should be allowed to question your views.
I have studied psychology, yes,and i have studied biology.
Im not using "childish insults", im simply questioning your objectivity.
I feel society today has a very strange view of homosexuality, apparently its as natural as heterosexuality.
But according to basic biological principles the whole purpose of sex is reproducing and thaths why we fall in love and feel atraction.
To me its obvious that homosecuality is a disorder
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@Poochalot
It doesnt matter which views are the most politically correct in todays society.
Its important to question societys conventional views.
But as soon as you state something as obvious as homosexuality is unatural, you are accused of being a homophob and you often get accused of being a nazi or a religious fundamentalist when you state that obvious truth.
Im not at alla religious or a nazi.
Im just stating what to me is obvious.
im all for gayrights despite me thinking its unatural
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng Well the reason people start screaming about religion is because it's usually the religious fanatics that attack homosexuals, I'm sure you've heard of a few of them- Fred Phelps is a big one. The thing is, it's important for those of us who push for gay rights to understand that not every Christians is a hate obsessed gay basher. Society has a very negative view of homosexuality; however that has been changing (slowly) for the better. There's a lot of fear over this issue.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
Yeah but i think its important to discuss wheter its natural or not without that discussion conflicting with gay right..
Because i dont think homosexuality is natural and i thinks its a disorder.
But im a strong advocater for gay rights.
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng What is natural or unnatural is basically an ethical question. Some would say that replacing a bad heart with a good one is unnatural which would make it unethical, and yet others would say that with the capability of replacing that bad heart it's unethical to not do something to help. A psychological disorder is something that interferes with living a productive life, it's when people can't take care of themselves. Homosexuals support themselves just as heterosexuals do.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
well if you look at it that way then youre right.
But i look at it from a difeerent perspective.
But i think we mostly seem to agree
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng I don't exactly believe there is a "gay gene" as some people as, but I don't rule out that certain hormones from the mother probably do create that childs sexual orientation. The way I see it, if the mothers body has determined that the baby will be gay than that is nature speaking and we (the human race) have no right to defy what nature has set in motion. We do mostly agree on this, it's been pleasant to speak with you :)
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
Well i agree.
We mostly agree, i think they should be allowed to be gay even thought ihave my strange opinions about it not being natural..
so we would probaly vote for the same things if we voted on homosexuals as politicans but maybe not as biologists
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng Biology is a hard science, meaning its roots are founded in facts.. I think some people view the differences as abnormalities, I'm fascinated by how the different traits and desires make up a person. It's these differences that make the world such an amazing place. We're all attracted to a certain kind of person, some like a mate of the opposite sex but same skin color, some only want a mate of the opposite sex and different skin color, and to some they don't care.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
well variation is intresting
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng Variation is necessary, think about how boring this world would be if we were all alike. There have been amazing contributions to society made by gays, and if these people were straight they wouldn't be the same person; so their contributions might not have ever been made. The world is truly a beautiful place, if we can put an end to the bigotry against gays then society itself will become better. I look forward to the day when gays will achieve equal rights, they enrich our world.
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
Well variation is nessecary for us to even exist because its the basis of evolution.
Well yes there have been many contributions by gay people, and by all oher types of people
unfad1ng 1 year ago
@unfad1ng The human race contributes to it's own growth, many different people have done so much good for us, even by accident. Just look at Rosa Parks and Constance McMillen, they were only trying to live their lives when fate made them into heroes. If we can embrace our differences as a thing of beauty instead of a reason for fear than we could accomplish even more. I'm hopeful for a future with less hate and fear; I know it will never go away but less would be a start towards a better world
Poochalot 1 year ago
@Poochalot
Well i agree with you there.
but i think its important to openly discuss everything to in order to always be open to discussion and view the world in difeerent perspectives.
Thaths why i am a strong supporter of unlimited free speech
unfad1ng 1 year ago