@SnoopyPoopyDog101 Look up "custom cartridge ballistics gel" on Google. One of the top links should be a .pdf file for a ballistics gelatin recipe. That's the one I used.
@asus3571 Even though the rounds that I shot fragment, I would have to say no, unless a .22 was the only weapon you had. I'd recommend a 12-gauge shotgun (preferably pump-action for the menacing cocking sound) loaded with 00 buck. This is regarded as one of the best, if not the best, combos for home defense. If not that, then a .357 magnum revolver or a reliable .45 would probably be your second and third best bets. Hope that helps.
@metalstorm91291 helpd exstremmly thanks the prob i have is because of the the gunshot wound i suffered from the .357 mag my left arm is paralyzed along with balance probs so recoil is an issue i was shot in the head back in 93 but a .357 mag hollow point
@asus3571 Oh yeah, I remember discussing this with you a few months ago, but we never really came up with a solution.
Alright, I think I may have finally come up with something for you. How 'bout a Smith & Wesson Model 632 Carry Comp revolver? It's chambered in the potent .327 Federal Magnum cartridge and is recommended by American Rifleman as being a good low-recoil option for self defense.
@asus3571 You're welcome. The price was the only thing I was worried about too. The ammo is also a bit pricey, but since you're only going to be using it for close-quarter self-defense, you probably won't have to practice shooting much, right?
@asus3571 Well, I'm glad I could help you find a good firearm and, though I hope you never have to use it on someone, may it save your life if you do. Good luck!
Unfortunately you kept shooting the gel so one cant see what the actual wound channel would look like. But it is a lot bigger then I imagined. I should do one with a .22 mag jhp 40 gr..
@duane2072 At around 1:15 you can see where my first shot hit. That would be about the size of an actual wound channel. However, when I made this video I just wanted to make some gel to shoot at. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to its consistency, so it may not be a very accurate representation of flesh. It should be close, but it's definitely not perfect.
Now that I have grown up a bit I would like to do a more accurate test with better equipment. It's a bit embarrassing in that regard.
@metalstorm91291 Na, nothing to be embarressed about. This is how we all learn. It was a good video. I shot alot of the Hornaday V-Max 30 gr and I really wanted to see the first strike. But, hey, what do ya do. I just made some gel and when I get some time im gonna go out and shoot it with the JHP 40 gr. I want to see the wound channel on that because that is one little whicked round. We will see how it goes.
@duane2072 Thanks for the complements! You should make a video of you shooting your gel. It would be interesting to compare the effects of a polymer-tipped bullet to a JHP.
@braveheart14airsoft In case you haven't noticed, most things in life take time and cost money, and many of those things are less fun and rewarding than testing ammunition on ballistics gel. It took less time and money to make the gel in the video than it would to bake a fancy cake, and was far more rewarding in the long run. For instance, now I know that the ammunition in the video isn't suitable for hunting small game at close range. The bullet fragments would ruin the meat.
HEY! lol Your gel just sploded off the table :) You should do a 125 yard test with a 40gr HP .22WMR and with the 30gr V-Max. If someone else did a 125yd test with the .17hmr 17gr V-Max & 20gr TNT then this all would be useful video information & quite interesting.
@timmyjunior1 well being my left arm is paralyzed cant shot a shotgun was thinking about the tuarus judge itll do 410's out of a handgun any sugesstions? thanks
@timmyjunior1 REALLY APPRECIATE THE ANSWER MY PROB IS MY LEFT ARM IS PARALYZED SO A .380 OR 9MM WONT WORK THERE ALL SLIDEBACKS UNLESS IF U KNOW A SAFE WAY TO OPERATE A SLIDEDBACK ONE HANDED I DONT KNOW OF ANY AND I HAVE KIDS SO SAFTY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THANKS ANY SUGGESTIONS??
@timmyjunior1 YEAH WAS THINKIN THE .38 .357 TOO MUCH KICK THAT CALIBRE HAS PATICULAR HAS SPECIAL MEANING I WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD WITH ONE IN 93 STILL HERE (LOL)
@asus3571 Get a large revolver that can use both the .38 special and the .357 magnum. The heavier the gun, the less kick you'll feel. I also know from experience that, though the .357 has a good bit of kick, it's not too bad, even one handed. I would strongly recommend using the .357 over the .38 for home defense, because, in terms of pistols, the .357 is unmatched at stopping someone with a single shot, while I've heard of people resisting even after being hit multiple times by .38 rounds.
@metalstorm91291 yea .357 is unmatched i have a little personal relationship with .357 i was shot in the head in 93 with one so even with that beast of a gun its still very possible to walk away from a death shotno joke either but i do agree its prob one of the best home defense guns around outside of a shotgun thanks for the recomendation though not so sure .357 is the one for me given the cercomstanses any other recomendations was thinkin of the tarus judge watta u think???
@asus3571 Dang! I saw what you said about getting shot in the head earlier, but your comment was a bit garbled so I didn't really think you had actually been shot in the head. Anyway, I just did some research on the judge and I got rather negative results from people who have them. Plus, the judge is rather lightweight, and with the cartridges its shooting it would probably have some pretty nasty recoil. I'll get back to you later with a recommendation after I do a bit more research.
@asus3571 yeah ha ha very true strory there 2 judges the cheaper one that gets bad reviews has a nasty trigger pull intigraded fireing mechanism 13 pound pull i think the other is a double action its very nice but your right on the recoil i bet its nasty .410's out of a 2/12inch barrel let alone the .45's it can shot
All things being equal, a modern 22 mag will exit the muzzle of a 20" barrel at approximately 2250 fps; with the fastest .22 lr kicking 1700 or thereabouts.From a 5" pistol or revolver the 32 to 40 grain magnum pills will average 1600 fps, with the 22lr about 1100-1150. Since kinetic energy always favors velocity, most 22 magnums will outdo a .38 Special in that category and while nothing to write home about isn't all that weak either. 50 yrs of shooting both tells the tale.
@Fits1 looking at getting a revolver for home dense interested in 22mag i see u have lots of exsperiense do you think this would be suffientim looking for something im able to shot one handed and easy to handle for me and my wife thanks
I don't really get the " Failing at life" comment or the shooting near a house comment but I like the video and the 22 mag round. It's true that the muzzel vel is similar to the LR round but not at distance. The mag round will still carry leathal energy at much farther distance. I own both the FN 5/7 and the new kel tec, I like them both but for thr cost up front ant to shoot I'll take the PMR to the range and tests I have done on them are not much different on wet phone books anyway.
A Henry Rifle! (I watched it again). That' s believable out of a rifle, but the .22mag is notoriously lazy! Out of a handgun, it's performance does not exceed a .22LR! Don't waste your money on that silly Kel-Tec "Rambo gun". does
@BDBakaJR Well that depends. I know that clothing can alter the penetration characteristics of bullets, so I'm not certain, but I would say that, since it fragments at close range with polymer-tipped bullets, it would definitely stop someone if you hit them in the leg because of the muscle damage the fragments would do (ouch). Now, if you had no choice but to take their life, a headshot would definitely work, but I don't know about shots to the torso, unless they were right on target.
@metalstorm91291 thanks for the info im lookin to get a full size handgun i daily carry a sub compact 9 but there is a newer full sized firearm that is a 22 mag that holds 31 rounds i love the round count and from the looks of the vids ive watched there seems to be little to no recoil thought it might be a good choice but i wasent sure if a 22 mag would do the job if i absolutly had to. I pray it never happens but if it does i want to know that it will get the job done again thanks-BDB
@BDBakaJR Wow! I'm glad I could help! I've always thought that a .22 WMR autoloading pistol would be a cool idea, but I didn't know that one existed. You are correct when you mentioned that it has little to no recoil, so no worries there. You could definitely take someone out if you had to, especially with the ability to accurately fire repeatedly. I hope your new pistol suits you well, but I also hope that you're never in a situation where you have to use deadly force. Good luck!
@metalstorm91291 yea they made the pmr 30 to compete with the F N 57 also jus so u know hornady has come out with a 22mag round they claim 2,200fps :-)
HA! thats funny the way it moves but it does no justice for showing one how powerful like 30 grains of powder is if that in a 22 shell, goes to show that people should be able to know ALL the saftey and common sense basics before even touching a gun, not that im insulting the vid maker or anything but still, they have background checks for guns for a reason these days after seeing how much power was behind a little 22 slug, im convinced that they did good with that inplacebutdeathtoguncontrol!
It's pretty simple really. Ballistics gel is exactly like Jello, except that it's unflavored and for every nine cups of water, you'll need one cup of gelatin. You can find the unflavored gelatin at any grocery store right next to the Jello. There are many sites on the web that have simple recipes for making the gel, but be prepared to spend a few bucks, because the block in my video cost me about $12 to make, and you will need a lot more gel than that for anything more powerful than a 22.
!!! The camera is so close !!! But when you come visit this coming weekend, you are going to have to tell me all about blowing things up at the house !! lol But that was fun and bet you had a great time making it - you are so creative!
How'd u make the ballistics gel
SnoopyPoopyDog101 1 month ago
@SnoopyPoopyDog101 Look up "custom cartridge ballistics gel" on Google. One of the top links should be a .pdf file for a ballistics gelatin recipe. That's the one I used.
metalstorm91291 4 weeks ago
not very much exsperience shooting but need to get home protection would 22 be good?
asus3571 1 month ago
@asus3571 Even though the rounds that I shot fragment, I would have to say no, unless a .22 was the only weapon you had. I'd recommend a 12-gauge shotgun (preferably pump-action for the menacing cocking sound) loaded with 00 buck. This is regarded as one of the best, if not the best, combos for home defense. If not that, then a .357 magnum revolver or a reliable .45 would probably be your second and third best bets. Hope that helps.
metalstorm91291 1 month ago
@metalstorm91291 helpd exstremmly thanks the prob i have is because of the the gunshot wound i suffered from the .357 mag my left arm is paralyzed along with balance probs so recoil is an issue i was shot in the head back in 93 but a .357 mag hollow point
asus3571 1 month ago
@asus3571 Oh yeah, I remember discussing this with you a few months ago, but we never really came up with a solution.
Alright, I think I may have finally come up with something for you. How 'bout a Smith & Wesson Model 632 Carry Comp revolver? It's chambered in the potent .327 Federal Magnum cartridge and is recommended by American Rifleman as being a good low-recoil option for self defense.
metalstorm91291 1 month ago
@metalstorm91291 yeah your right didnt even notice thanks brother ill look into further kinda looks like a big round?
asus3571 1 month ago
@metalstorm91291 jackpot i looked it up seems like a perfect firearm thankyou very much price is high though
asus3571 1 month ago
@asus3571 You're welcome. The price was the only thing I was worried about too. The ammo is also a bit pricey, but since you're only going to be using it for close-quarter self-defense, you probably won't have to practice shooting much, right?
metalstorm91291 1 month ago
@metalstorm91291 agreed the price is way to high ill try and find a used one
asus3571 1 month ago
@asus3571 Well, I'm glad I could help you find a good firearm and, though I hope you never have to use it on someone, may it save your life if you do. Good luck!
metalstorm91291 1 month ago
Fucken awsome
fatbait 3 months ago
Can you make ballistics gel at home?
Bookstop1337 4 months ago
Unfortunately you kept shooting the gel so one cant see what the actual wound channel would look like. But it is a lot bigger then I imagined. I should do one with a .22 mag jhp 40 gr..
duane2072 5 months ago
@duane2072 At around 1:15 you can see where my first shot hit. That would be about the size of an actual wound channel. However, when I made this video I just wanted to make some gel to shoot at. I didn't pay a whole lot of attention to its consistency, so it may not be a very accurate representation of flesh. It should be close, but it's definitely not perfect.
Now that I have grown up a bit I would like to do a more accurate test with better equipment. It's a bit embarrassing in that regard.
metalstorm91291 5 months ago
@metalstorm91291 Na, nothing to be embarressed about. This is how we all learn. It was a good video. I shot alot of the Hornaday V-Max 30 gr and I really wanted to see the first strike. But, hey, what do ya do. I just made some gel and when I get some time im gonna go out and shoot it with the JHP 40 gr. I want to see the wound channel on that because that is one little whicked round. We will see how it goes.
duane2072 5 months ago
@duane2072 Thanks for the complements! You should make a video of you shooting your gel. It would be interesting to compare the effects of a polymer-tipped bullet to a JHP.
metalstorm91291 5 months ago
@duane2072 on a side not it looks like what somones insides would look like if you shot them 5 times with a .22mag lol
dp665 4 months ago
i wasnt expecting the 22 mag to do that much.
OGproductions45 6 months ago
why dont you just shoot your foot instead of wasting time and mony makeing ballistic gel? idiots
braveheart14airsoft 6 months ago
@braveheart14airsoft In case you haven't noticed, most things in life take time and cost money, and many of those things are less fun and rewarding than testing ammunition on ballistics gel. It took less time and money to make the gel in the video than it would to bake a fancy cake, and was far more rewarding in the long run. For instance, now I know that the ammunition in the video isn't suitable for hunting small game at close range. The bullet fragments would ruin the meat.
metalstorm91291 6 months ago
@metalstorm91291 and at close range it could stop an attacker not to mention that was less time and $ then the emergency room bill
hopecamel 6 months ago
@braveheart14airsoft y dont u take your gay ass airsoft "gun" and shove it in your ass
ViolentEncounter 6 months ago
HEY! lol Your gel just sploded off the table :) You should do a 125 yard test with a 40gr HP .22WMR and with the 30gr V-Max. If someone else did a 125yd test with the .17hmr 17gr V-Max & 20gr TNT then this all would be useful video information & quite interesting.
ntrudr800 7 months ago
You know if you''re going to shell out the cash for ballistic gel, It would really benefit you to have a proper stand or box for it.
DirtyFrigginHarry 8 months ago
.22mag good for home defense
asus3571 9 months ago
@asus3571 Buy a shotgun for home defense. Handguns aren't very good for that task.
timmyjunior1 8 months ago
@timmyjunior1 well being my left arm is paralyzed cant shot a shotgun was thinking about the tuarus judge itll do 410's out of a handgun any sugesstions? thanks
asus3571 8 months ago
@asus3571 For hd if it must be a one handed gun then go with either a 9mm or a .380 since you can only hold with one hand.
timmyjunior1 8 months ago
@timmyjunior1 REALLY APPRECIATE THE ANSWER MY PROB IS MY LEFT ARM IS PARALYZED SO A .380 OR 9MM WONT WORK THERE ALL SLIDEBACKS UNLESS IF U KNOW A SAFE WAY TO OPERATE A SLIDEDBACK ONE HANDED I DONT KNOW OF ANY AND I HAVE KIDS SO SAFTY IS VERY IMPORTANT TO ME THANKS ANY SUGGESTIONS??
asus3571 8 months ago
@asus3571 Then a double action revolver is what you have left, go with a .38 special or a .357
timmyjunior1 8 months ago
@timmyjunior1 YEAH WAS THINKIN THE .38 .357 TOO MUCH KICK THAT CALIBRE HAS PATICULAR HAS SPECIAL MEANING I WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD WITH ONE IN 93 STILL HERE (LOL)
asus3571 8 months ago
@asus3571 Yeah, I'd go .38 then
timmyjunior1 8 months ago
@asus3571 Get a large revolver that can use both the .38 special and the .357 magnum. The heavier the gun, the less kick you'll feel. I also know from experience that, though the .357 has a good bit of kick, it's not too bad, even one handed. I would strongly recommend using the .357 over the .38 for home defense, because, in terms of pistols, the .357 is unmatched at stopping someone with a single shot, while I've heard of people resisting even after being hit multiple times by .38 rounds.
metalstorm91291 8 months ago
@metalstorm91291 yea .357 is unmatched i have a little personal relationship with .357 i was shot in the head in 93 with one so even with that beast of a gun its still very possible to walk away from a death shotno joke either but i do agree its prob one of the best home defense guns around outside of a shotgun thanks for the recomendation though not so sure .357 is the one for me given the cercomstanses any other recomendations was thinkin of the tarus judge watta u think???
asus3571 8 months ago
@asus3571 Dang! I saw what you said about getting shot in the head earlier, but your comment was a bit garbled so I didn't really think you had actually been shot in the head. Anyway, I just did some research on the judge and I got rather negative results from people who have them. Plus, the judge is rather lightweight, and with the cartridges its shooting it would probably have some pretty nasty recoil. I'll get back to you later with a recommendation after I do a bit more research.
metalstorm91291 8 months ago
@asus3571 yeah ha ha very true strory there 2 judges the cheaper one that gets bad reviews has a nasty trigger pull intigraded fireing mechanism 13 pound pull i think the other is a double action its very nice but your right on the recoil i bet its nasty .410's out of a 2/12inch barrel let alone the .45's it can shot
asus3571 8 months ago
@asus3571
what about doing that thing Tom Cruise does in Valkryie?
DirtyFrigginHarry 8 months ago
@DirtyFrigginHarry what did he do??
asus3571 8 months ago
Christian book distributors??? Lol I guess I should have expected that from the same hillbilly who shoots right next to a house.
Awesomechild96 9 months ago
All things being equal, a modern 22 mag will exit the muzzle of a 20" barrel at approximately 2250 fps; with the fastest .22 lr kicking 1700 or thereabouts.From a 5" pistol or revolver the 32 to 40 grain magnum pills will average 1600 fps, with the 22lr about 1100-1150. Since kinetic energy always favors velocity, most 22 magnums will outdo a .38 Special in that category and while nothing to write home about isn't all that weak either. 50 yrs of shooting both tells the tale.
Fits1 9 months ago
@Fits1 looking at getting a revolver for home dense interested in 22mag i see u have lots of exsperiense do you think this would be suffientim looking for something im able to shot one handed and easy to handle for me and my wife thanks
asus3571 9 months ago
I think its ouch not owch, but pretty sweet
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BigDog8950 10 months ago
cool vid! I'd love to see what this bullet does at 50 and 100yds!
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@dntfxr It guts a jackrabbit quite well with hollow points.
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BigDog8950 10 months ago
I don't really get the " Failing at life" comment or the shooting near a house comment but I like the video and the 22 mag round. It's true that the muzzel vel is similar to the LR round but not at distance. The mag round will still carry leathal energy at much farther distance. I own both the FN 5/7 and the new kel tec, I like them both but for thr cost up front ant to shoot I'll take the PMR to the range and tests I have done on them are not much different on wet phone books anyway.
sparky0308 1 year ago
"christian book distributors", lol you fail at life
Buddhabr0t 1 year ago
shooting close to a house and in line of fire some fool
bigbeau68 1 year ago
A Henry Rifle! (I watched it again). That' s believable out of a rifle, but the .22mag is notoriously lazy! Out of a handgun, it's performance does not exceed a .22LR! Don't waste your money on that silly Kel-Tec "Rambo gun". does
caseyjoanz 1 year ago
Sorry to disillusion, but if the barrel is less than 10-12", I don't believe it.
caseyjoanz 1 year ago
Unless you are King Kong, that is not a cube with one foot sides.
jgreystoke 1 year ago
@BDBakaJR Well that depends. I know that clothing can alter the penetration characteristics of bullets, so I'm not certain, but I would say that, since it fragments at close range with polymer-tipped bullets, it would definitely stop someone if you hit them in the leg because of the muscle damage the fragments would do (ouch). Now, if you had no choice but to take their life, a headshot would definitely work, but I don't know about shots to the torso, unless they were right on target.
metalstorm91291 1 year ago
@metalstorm91291 thanks for the info im lookin to get a full size handgun i daily carry a sub compact 9 but there is a newer full sized firearm that is a 22 mag that holds 31 rounds i love the round count and from the looks of the vids ive watched there seems to be little to no recoil thought it might be a good choice but i wasent sure if a 22 mag would do the job if i absolutly had to. I pray it never happens but if it does i want to know that it will get the job done again thanks-BDB
BDBakaJR 1 year ago
@BDBakaJR Wow! I'm glad I could help! I've always thought that a .22 WMR autoloading pistol would be a cool idea, but I didn't know that one existed. You are correct when you mentioned that it has little to no recoil, so no worries there. You could definitely take someone out if you had to, especially with the ability to accurately fire repeatedly. I hope your new pistol suits you well, but I also hope that you're never in a situation where you have to use deadly force. Good luck!
metalstorm91291 1 year ago
@metalstorm91291 yea they made the pmr 30 to compete with the F N 57 also jus so u know hornady has come out with a 22mag round they claim 2,200fps :-)
BDBakaJR 1 year ago
@BDBakaJR Nice! Good luck with your awesome new pistol and thanks for the Hornady info. I'll definitely give their new round a shot.
metalstorm91291 1 year ago
@BDBakaJR I just did some research. Is it the Kel-Tec PMR-30 that you're talking about?
metalstorm91291 1 year ago
@metalstorm91291 yep
BDBakaJR 1 year ago
where did u get the jelly from ?
ballygeale1 2 years ago
this vid is a testament that contrary to what people think a .22 is a very deadly round especially as a sniper
koopakid89 2 years ago
lol you should have put the camra like 2 feet back from it but it was a really cool video
leppy5 2 years ago
HA! thats funny the way it moves but it does no justice for showing one how powerful like 30 grains of powder is if that in a 22 shell, goes to show that people should be able to know ALL the saftey and common sense basics before even touching a gun, not that im insulting the vid maker or anything but still, they have background checks for guns for a reason these days after seeing how much power was behind a little 22 slug, im convinced that they did good with that inplacebutdeathtoguncontrol!
kghsbassboy 2 years ago
What did u us to make the balistics gel ???
louisianahick2004 2 years ago
It's pretty simple really. Ballistics gel is exactly like Jello, except that it's unflavored and for every nine cups of water, you'll need one cup of gelatin. You can find the unflavored gelatin at any grocery store right next to the Jello. There are many sites on the web that have simple recipes for making the gel, but be prepared to spend a few bucks, because the block in my video cost me about $12 to make, and you will need a lot more gel than that for anything more powerful than a 22.
metalstorm91291 2 years ago
@metalstorm91291 technicaly this isn't ballistics gel, it doesn't share the consistency of human flesh. But really cool vid, thumbs up
yescharliesurfs 1 year ago
@louisianahick2004 better with knox gel though
ghostgory 2 years ago
always wanted to test ballistics gel aginst a .50 cal lol
birch2010 2 years ago
haha thats so cool. i wish i could shoot ballistics gel with a magnum.. (or something bigger)
bftjosh 2 years ago
Aw yeah mr. magnum.
QuickCon 2 years ago
dude, nice. the aftermath is awesome
birch2010 2 years ago
!!! The camera is so close !!! But when you come visit this coming weekend, you are going to have to tell me all about blowing things up at the house !! lol But that was fun and bet you had a great time making it - you are so creative!
CarolinaFancy09 2 years ago