One thing that confuses me is when Tolkein reads " yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron! Yéni ve lintë yuldar avánier" he seems to pronounce it "yéni ar únótë ve rámar aldaron! Yéni ar ve lintë yulmar avánier." Can anybody unwravel this mystery for me?
@PlastKladd that's the point my friend. Tolkien was a professor of English literature and anglo-saxon studies, and was a linguist to the core.so it was only natural he based his own languages of those he knew, using old Norse as a base for the elven tongues, and partialy on the Hebrew language for dwaven, while the words of men "westron" are based of middle English.
I learn Quenya, but when I listening to this genius, I think I have many progress to do before a good prononciation... But one thing is easy, because Tolkien (God) uses Finnish to create his language... I know Finnish... Does anybody know where is Tolkien tomb ?
@Nemesisprincess His grave is in the Wolvercote Cemetery in Oxford/England. He shares his grave with his late wife Edith (née Bratt). I assume you want to go and pay your respects to him and not dig up any bones and play "tomb raider" with his corpse, right?! :P
@Finarphin He was very familiar with the Finnish language, and probably decided that this type of language would suit the elves. He believed that language shapes the culture, so the different languages he created fit each culture he designed. The speech of the people of Rohan is similar to Norwegian and has a harsher tone and feel that fit its people. While the languages of the elves fit their elegant and natural cultures.
@mynock2 Absolutely right. And it's brilliant he was able create these languages in way that so successfully captured that atmosphere. As an aside I've been reading Tolkien since I was 8 (25 now) and this is the first time I think I've -heard- Quenya (outside of the movies)... and man it -does- sound like Finnish
It's so wonderful to here this recording of Tolkien actually reciting Namarie, because I've been having trouble pronouncing my elvish while I read this. :D
How he actually "sings" those magnificently beautiful words... :')
Tolkien always brings me to tears... I don´t why... or maybe it´s because of the beauty and the sadness and all those emotions that come up in his works. Which other author has/had the ability to unite so many feelings in his works like Tolkien? His creation was his life and you surely can feel that! Thank you for sharing this with us! :)
@mwall444 you can hear aspects of a few baltic linguistics coming through the languages he created...he definitely had an ear and tongue for some of the greatest languages spoken by man.
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@Feanorielle I've heard that the Quenya language was based on the Finnish language and that Tolkien had a lot of inspiration from Finland. He studied the old language of Finnish so that he could read the Kalevala in its original Finnish. I can image that he was inspired with all the beautiful forests and lakes that you have. Finland is a beautiful country!
@marvelousmaris Before encountering Finnish via Kalevala, Tolkien had based his Elven Latin on Gothic languages, if my memory serves me. But learning Finnish made him change his mind and he started all over again. So Finnish is undoubtly a major source, if not the biggest. But there are other sources as well, such as Latin and Greek. Finnish and Quenya are by no means twins, and Quenya is a really brilliant invention that goes beyond just copying from an existing language.
@Feanorielle most languages today are just mash ups of archaic spoken word and in the case of English, Shakespeare set in motion some dramatic changes to the spoken word of his era that have carried through to today...china is a great example how more than a dozen dialects can exist but be quite different to each other in a regional area.
@Andrew33416 When China had not only different spoken word but different written language there were no where near that many people...once China was unified most languages were lost to the ages.
@SteinbrecherBack Aw, a snob! How sweet. It was really kind of you to point out this miniscule detail - really, you needn't have gone to the trouble JUST for my sake. :)
if you dont know the language he might as well be speaking in tongues, a phenomenom where the individual creates their own spiritual language that they themselves internally translate or audably....
Clearly, whatever language has such an elaborate grammar, a large set of roots and an almost full vocabulary qualifies as real and existing. Also, Tolkien spent decades creating it, and invented a whole world where it is spoken, not to mention Quenya has its own history and numerous excerpts are available to us through his books.
per carità l'ha inventata lui e la recita proprio bene ma nons embra proprio per niente la lingua leggera e mistica degli elfi a cui ci hanno abituato le altre interpretazioni, quella del film anzitutto
@GreyScaleButterfly very interesting... pity that Gateway To Sindarin hasn't been translated to Polish yet. Reading specialist texts in a foreign language version is harder a bit :/
I listened to this but i could hear that the first words in the first and the second verse are actually different, you have the last version of the poem in the descrption but the words were changed. those words are part of the first version of it.
sorry for bothering and about my english (I'm still learning)
@GreyScaleButterfly the whole text of Namarie is at The Fellowship of the Ring book :) it's not strange, English hasn't as clear phones as quenya, Finnish or Polish, so you just must keep trying :) (let's listen to the Finnish-language music, you may find there more examples :)
Gos bless Tolkien. A exceptional writter, good teacher and talented man must be in the grace of God.Happy birthday mr Tolkien, for all the good moments i spent reading your fantastic and excellent stories.
Yes, Tolkien did create this (and other) language. Regardless, he could still make mistakes. He was an incredible linguist, and as such, created his languages according to grammatical rules that even real languages follow. He also made the written language, but he didn't bend it to fit his mistakes.
@stevengladius But how can it NOT be perfect when he speaks it? It is HIS creation. Therefore, if this recital sounds different to other speakers attempts at the language, then that is simply because THEY are not speaking it perfectly. Not because he is not.
@stevengladius How can it not be perfect when he was the one who wrote it in the first place? You know more about this language than the creator himself?
@stevengladius "Wouldn't say it's completely perfect but I guess it has to do with his English accent ..."
I know that countless others have reminded you of this, but THIS IS HIS OWN LANGUAGE. As such, he is pronouncing it perfectly. Who are you comparing against?
Yeah, I agree, this sounds cool, as if you imagine those words coming straight from an elf. And his works, what can you say, The Hobbit is perfect. The Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece. The Silmarillion is above that. Go Tolkien!
:: This brought tears of joy to my eyes. Thank you so much, chamberofrecords, for uploading this gem. Whoa. That is really something. Nai eleni siluvar antalyannar ~ (•8-D
What a treat to hear this. You will read in various sources that he had old Finnish epic texts in mind in crafting the high elven language. Listen to someone speaking fluent Finnish and you can hear the resonance and especially the rhythm of the prose.
@YouFoolWarrenIsDead He was a college professor and did stuff like this for a living. He had a wife and kids, fought in WWI, completed analysis on Beowolf and ancient nordic texts. He was a literature buff. It's not a life everyone would want, but he did what he loved and created beautiful works of art.
What a beautiful, musical language. You don't have to be obsessed with LOTR (I hugely admire it. The Silmarrillion is my favorite piece of literature) to understand it's beauty. In song it is eerie.
If you're trying to learn one of the two languages, Quenya or Sindarin, I'd warrant Sindarin to be the better: since it is more used in the tales pertaining to Middle-Earth, there is a broader purview of the language therein.
I would learn Quenya. Sindarin generally sounds more poetic, and you see it more in the books, but Quenya is much more complete. (Neither of them are at all complete, Quenya just has MUCH more vocabulary)
@ElfPrincess1901 Quenya is the best to learn. Not that middle earth exists, but if it did, they wouldn't speak Sindarin on an every day basis. Quenyan is the language of the masses. Sindarin to the Elves is like old English to us. It is a more proper form of the language and was spoken by the ancients. It is understood by the Elves, but again, not spoken in the everyday.
@amusementparkmayhem However, neither (especially Sindarin) can be spoken fluently. Tolkien never finished the languages. But this was not because of a lack of time or effort, it was because he so loved creating that he kept revising and changing different aspects of the languages. It wouldn't be any fun to complete the language entirely, then there would be nothing left to play with.
@amusementparkmayhem I am currently reading the Silmarrillion and wasn't Quenya the language spoken by the Noldor and banned to the Teleri. Wasn't Sindarin the common language?
@TirianCreed - Sindarin was the language of the gray elves in Endor, the eastern lands.
Teleri can be said to be one version of it, or a language of its own (hard to say, there's not much material on Teleri), since Teleri mainly points to the sea elves in Valinor (Valimar? now I confuse these 2) - the immortal lands.
Quenya was the language of Noldor, mainly - but in Valinor it was also the language of the Vanyar, I think. They were one nation there. In Endor it was a Noldo language, basically
@amusementparkmayhem I believe you have that backwards. :) Qenya was the High Elvish and Sindarin was more common - amongst the Elves. The Hobbits and Men spoke a language that was a mixture of their native languages in Middle-Earth and the language of the Numenoreans. Only the more educated among men and Hobbits even knew Sindarin and for a mortal to know any Qenya was "mind-blowing" to the High Elves.
I think it's great that fans have the opportunity to listen to Tolkien. It's amazing how he just recited the whole of 'Namarie' without taking a breather, it seems to me. Thanks for sharing this!
What is most beautiful - Quenya or Sindarin? I think Sindarin is SOOO pretty, but is it harder to learn? I dont think Sindarin sound that finnish, and im from Norway.
quenya, is like the latin of elvish languange, and sindarin is like common language, much like english is to the world, even dwarves spoke it to be able to trade with them etc, even gave their children sindarin names -> donnie yen i.e english first name chinese last name, liek the dwarves hade thier names in sindarin then their real name in khuzdul : ]
Hey! Can anyone explain to me, what is Quenya and what is Sindarin?? Is that, like, two different ways to speak elvish, or two totally different langauges??? pls anyone!?
Originally, all elves spoke the same language, but being separated geographically for thousands of years their language diverged. The Quenya is the "high" elven and the Sindarin is the common elven tongue of Middle Earth. To learn more read the Silmarillion. It contains the history of the elves and will root you in Tolkien's mythology. It also has some neat stories that would make great movies in their own right.
É óbvio que não é Finlandês, conquanto ele - J. R. R. Tolkien - tenha usado tal língua como inspiração; entretanto, ela é próxima, o que corroborei ao escutar muitas vezes a este vídeo, no que tange à pronúncia característica de seu inventor, ao Castelhano, que também fôra mui cogitado para as bases do idioma criado, bem como o próprio J. R. R. Tolkien admitiu em seus tempos...
Tolkien did develop at least one of his Elvish language while learning Finnish. He loved the Kalevala. And he did this as a teenager. Was bored with mere Greek and Latin.
In other words, this definitely does sound like Finnish to my finnish ears, like something a little child might spew out when learning to speak. Apparently finnish kids speak elvish. And if you take into consideration that this is a poem recital, and compare this to what Kalevala sounds like when recited, the influence is obvious.
But yeah, he practically composed Quenya as Finnish with Welsh vocabulary and Latin writing, so while the structures and grammar is that of Finnish, that doesn't help in understanding the Welsh-like words.
IMO this doesn't resemble Finnish nearly as much as some might think. The largest resemblance is that the sounds would be easy for a Finn to pronounce. tintalle varda oiolosseo...But the overall tune is non-Finnish. Or that's how I see it.
There's is a lot of Finnish in there - long, drawn together sentence runs, yet the rythm is more flowing and less heavy than finnish sometimes can be, perhaps having more of Icelandish (or perhaps certain dialiects of Swedish) quality to the vowel Sound, though less gutteral than islandish. Perhaps this is where the irish/welsh influence shows itself? :)
Such beauty in his words. I know the power of words and that is why I love them. The words he speaks are healing to me. I am new to You Tube and shy as well...so do bear with me as I learn.
I love JRR Tolkien. Undoubtedly my favourite author and favourite linguist. I do not think it sounds like German; it sounds very much like Finnish. (It was influenced a lot by Finnish, so...it shows.)
sounds like German a lot to me..but anyway I always admired the man's genius in creating his own world and going further by inventing a new language..Middle-Earth rocks!
That's right but not just Middle-Earth rocks, Valimar, Numenor, Eressea and Eldamar too :) Tolkien FOREVER nobody could be better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@liquidchicken23 As a fluent bi-lingual speaker of both English and German, this sounds more like the undulating rhythm of a Scandinavian language, specifically Swedish, combined with the song-like flow of a Gaelic language such as Irish. Furthermore, the so-called guttural sounds are not as pronounced as in German, and again more like Swedish, Presumably, this would make sense as he was a scholar of Anglo-Saxon (Old English to the lay), which has been said to have had a Scandinavian quality.
Being a Swede, I have to disagree with you on the point of that it sounds like Swedish. The intonation is to me very much Finnish, especially the first line "Ai! Laurié lantar lassi súrinen!"
However, it doesn't really sound like Finnish either, but what influences it is, I can't say by listening, but researsh says Gaelic, Welsh and maybe some Norwegian.
One may create a language,but until people learn to listen,we still won't make much progress.
Awhisperinwind1 2 hours ago
Wow, so musical Beautiful
Xanaseb 2 days ago
That was music to my ears.
yummyelves777 1 week ago 2
One thing that confuses me is when Tolkein reads " yéni únótimë ve rámar aldaron! Yéni ve lintë yuldar avánier" he seems to pronounce it "yéni ar únótë ve rámar aldaron! Yéni ar ve lintë yulmar avánier." Can anybody unwravel this mystery for me?
benjidrake 4 weeks ago
sounds abit like finnish :D
PlastKladd 1 month ago
@PlastKladd that's the point my friend. Tolkien was a professor of English literature and anglo-saxon studies, and was a linguist to the core.so it was only natural he based his own languages of those he knew, using old Norse as a base for the elven tongues, and partialy on the Hebrew language for dwaven, while the words of men "westron" are based of middle English.
bakomusha 2 weeks ago
@TheMoreTheMerrier21 Yes, mum, ok, mum, I'll be a real good girl and I won't play the role of Lara Croft... Thanks =)
Nemesisprincess 1 month ago
I learn Quenya, but when I listening to this genius, I think I have many progress to do before a good prononciation... But one thing is easy, because Tolkien (God) uses Finnish to create his language... I know Finnish... Does anybody know where is Tolkien tomb ?
Nemesisprincess 2 months ago
@Nemesisprincess His grave is in the Wolvercote Cemetery in Oxford/England. He shares his grave with his late wife Edith (née Bratt). I assume you want to go and pay your respects to him and not dig up any bones and play "tomb raider" with his corpse, right?! :P
TheMoreTheMerrier21 2 months ago
Amazing language. He reads it very comfortably and fast as if he uses the language daily for communication.
TheodenN 4 months ago 8
@TheodenN You see that as a plus? In this case, I'd say he adds absolutely no emotion into it.
AllyKari1 3 months ago
Absolutely ingenious.
shadycady18 4 months ago
awesome. what a genius.
awagamgnalaw 4 months ago
The way he says it, it sounds a lot like Finnish.
Finarphin 4 months ago 5
@Finarphin He was very familiar with the Finnish language, and probably decided that this type of language would suit the elves. He believed that language shapes the culture, so the different languages he created fit each culture he designed. The speech of the people of Rohan is similar to Norwegian and has a harsher tone and feel that fit its people. While the languages of the elves fit their elegant and natural cultures.
mynock2 2 months ago
@mynock2 Absolutely right. And it's brilliant he was able create these languages in way that so successfully captured that atmosphere. As an aside I've been reading Tolkien since I was 8 (25 now) and this is the first time I think I've -heard- Quenya (outside of the movies)... and man it -does- sound like Finnish
Falcon988 1 month ago
It's so wonderful to here this recording of Tolkien actually reciting Namarie, because I've been having trouble pronouncing my elvish while I read this. :D
EowynOfIthilien1995 4 months ago
How he actually "sings" those magnificently beautiful words... :')
Tolkien always brings me to tears... I don´t why... or maybe it´s because of the beauty and the sadness and all those emotions that come up in his works. Which other author has/had the ability to unite so many feelings in his works like Tolkien? His creation was his life and you surely can feel that! Thank you for sharing this with us! :)
9Nienor 5 months ago 6
Tolkien based Elven heavily on Finnish. Follow this link to hear Finnish (gospel reading in Finnish):
mwall444 5 months ago
@mwall444 you can hear aspects of a few baltic linguistics coming through the languages he created...he definitely had an ear and tongue for some of the greatest languages spoken by man.
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joshua4469 6 months ago
Is this Quenya or Sindarin?
MegaloSaro 6 months ago
@MegaloSaro This is Quenya.
darlancampos 6 months ago
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ProudDstudent22 6 months ago
*------------------------* Aiya!!
LingBrunnaC 6 months ago
Other authors just write stories. Tolkien created a whole world. I doubt there will ever be another one like him...
Nai maruvas séresse!
electricmayhem2010 6 months ago 9
0:38 "Tupac, I'ma kill you." Lmao.
OutlawedSaviour 7 months ago 30
he was ´the oldest and greates elv on mittleeath
kolben05 8 months ago 2
I'm Finnish and this sounds like Finnish spoken flawedly by a foreigner.
Seddoron 8 months ago
@Seddoron I'm Finnish too, and while Quenya does sound at points like Finnish, there are clear differences too. And of course Quenya is prettier. :)
Feanorielle 8 months ago
@Feanorielle I've heard that the Quenya language was based on the Finnish language and that Tolkien had a lot of inspiration from Finland. He studied the old language of Finnish so that he could read the Kalevala in its original Finnish. I can image that he was inspired with all the beautiful forests and lakes that you have. Finland is a beautiful country!
marvelousmaris 6 months ago
@marvelousmaris Before encountering Finnish via Kalevala, Tolkien had based his Elven Latin on Gothic languages, if my memory serves me. But learning Finnish made him change his mind and he started all over again. So Finnish is undoubtly a major source, if not the biggest. But there are other sources as well, such as Latin and Greek. Finnish and Quenya are by no means twins, and Quenya is a really brilliant invention that goes beyond just copying from an existing language.
Feanorielle 6 months ago 4
@Feanorielle most languages today are just mash ups of archaic spoken word and in the case of English, Shakespeare set in motion some dramatic changes to the spoken word of his era that have carried through to today...china is a great example how more than a dozen dialects can exist but be quite different to each other in a regional area.
wolfie83 4 months ago
@wolfie83 Interesting, China has over 1 billion people to, I'd expect some different dialects.
Andrew33416 4 months ago
@Andrew33416 When China had not only different spoken word but different written language there were no where near that many people...once China was unified most languages were lost to the ages.
wolfie83 4 months ago
@Seddoron
tolkien mixed welsh with finnish
VigisKane 6 months ago
Pois é
CanalTal 8 months ago
Professor Tolkien = Illuvatar
veritas0290 9 months ago 4
@veritas0290 It's spelt "Ilúvatar"... if it's too hard to remember, go with "Eru" :p
SteinbrecherBack 8 months ago
@SteinbrecherBack Aw, a snob! How sweet. It was really kind of you to point out this miniscule detail - really, you needn't have gone to the trouble JUST for my sake. :)
veritas0290 8 months ago
if you dont know the language he might as well be speaking in tongues, a phenomenom where the individual creates their own spiritual language that they themselves internally translate or audably....
hinkle2earth 9 months ago
How the heck can anyone dislike this? Wonderful!
yoginipeacelove 9 months ago
@yoginipeacelove Orcs.. most likely.
America2470 9 months ago 2
any one can learn a language it takes pure genius to create one.
facelessXreflection 9 months ago 176
@facelessXreflection and even two, at least. Quenya and Sindarin.
NotOnlySelfLover 8 months ago
@facelessXreflection and he created four...
MattBOrange 6 months ago 2
@facelessXreflection You haven't heard of the Conlang community then.
sagenunn 1 week ago
listening to tolkien speak quenya feeds the soul..
tobislemonfreak 10 months ago 4
5 Nazgul his the dislike button.
theFFVIguy 10 months ago 7
sorry for the dumb question but, is quenya a real existing language?
dreamer1875 10 months ago
@dreamer1875
Clearly, whatever language has such an elaborate grammar, a large set of roots and an almost full vocabulary qualifies as real and existing. Also, Tolkien spent decades creating it, and invented a whole world where it is spoken, not to mention Quenya has its own history and numerous excerpts are available to us through his books.
Vanafiz 9 months ago
tolkien's a genius!
cloner98 10 months ago 6
MrScreem0 10 months ago 4
Mae pennen!
To those of you who disliked this video: Nai Valaraukar tye-mátar!
MrTrisk1995 11 months ago 7
per carità l'ha inventata lui e la recita proprio bene ma nons embra proprio per niente la lingua leggera e mistica degli elfi a cui ci hanno abituato le altre interpretazioni, quella del film anzitutto
linguadigatt0 11 months ago
Очень сильно похоже на финский
Karel69482 11 months ago
5 people are dwarfs
TSH4ever 11 months ago
@TSH4ever Stupid Elf! xD. I'm Dwarf! :D
INDUSTRIELL4N74R35 11 months ago
@TSH4ever can't you see they are actually trolls?
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@TSH4ever can't you see they are actually ...trolls?
Kemmothar 11 months ago
It's incredible how well it flows when Tolkien speaks Quenya. It's almost casual. Beautiful. :D
FlamingSpidermonkeys 11 months ago
@FlamingSpidermonkeys of course, he is the father of this language
NotOnlySelfLover 10 months ago
Such a beautiful language. The words in Quenya are so delicate and tender.
AronofskysKumo 11 months ago
Tolkien is TRUE master of fantasy! (:
Scealic93 1 year ago 3
@GreyScaleButterfly very interesting... pity that Gateway To Sindarin hasn't been translated to Polish yet. Reading specialist texts in a foreign language version is harder a bit :/
TarLocesilion 1 year ago
A man with Tolkien's talents is a rare gem of what humanity can do.
TolkienOtaku 1 year ago 3
Sounds like a mix between Italian and Celtic language.. Cool
Workhard1994 1 year ago
@Workhard1994
Quenya is mostly based on Finnish, but with a little bit of Gaelic and Latin, and few other languages as well.
jimmyzhanneutron 1 year ago 2
sorry, the mistake is in the second and third verses
xNETHOWx 1 year ago
I have an observation (only).
I listened to this but i could hear that the first words in the first and the second verse are actually different, you have the last version of the poem in the descrption but the words were changed. those words are part of the first version of it.
sorry for bothering and about my english (I'm still learning)
and tnx for the audio :D
Ai! Laurie lantar lassi súrinen
INYALEMÍN ' únótimë ve rámar aldaron!
INYALI ve lintë yuldar avánier
mi oromardi lisse-miruvóreva
....
xNETHOWx 1 year ago
@GreyScaleButterfly the whole text of Namarie is at The Fellowship of the Ring book :) it's not strange, English hasn't as clear phones as quenya, Finnish or Polish, so you just must keep trying :) (let's listen to the Finnish-language music, you may find there more examples :)
TarLocesilion 1 year ago
Gos bless Tolkien. A exceptional writter, good teacher and talented man must be in the grace of God.Happy birthday mr Tolkien, for all the good moments i spent reading your fantastic and excellent stories.
arenyndriel 1 year ago 3
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arenyndriel 1 year ago
today is Professor's Tolkien's birthday.
Namarië
cesarghan 1 year ago 6
APPLAUSE
AsiniusNaso 1 year ago 7
wow!.....if this man wouldn't exsist...the world would have lost a soul....i hope someone keeps the tolkie spirit alive!!!!
Roshan3L 1 year ago 97
@Roshan3L where do i learn this?? i want to learn dragonian from skyrim and elvish from lotr :)
lpgamer2 1 month ago
Yes, Tolkien did create this (and other) language. Regardless, he could still make mistakes. He was an incredible linguist, and as such, created his languages according to grammatical rules that even real languages follow. He also made the written language, but he didn't bend it to fit his mistakes.
MrJTWyncott 1 year ago 2
I need to make this my ringtone.
OlorUmetteon 1 year ago 6
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Valneaa 1 year ago
Tolkien was really skilled in languages - I admire his skill to read in Quenya without English accent and so on.
Leaiael 1 year ago
I cried 3 years ago when I first heard this, and I cry now again.
Hantale Master
cesarghan 1 year ago
wouldn't say its completely perfect but i guess it has to do with his english accent.....
stevengladius 1 year ago
@stevengladius apparently the man who invented the language is speaking it incorrectly, what a shame you weren't there to teach him
amdturionati 1 year ago 7
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stevengladius 1 year ago
@stevengladius Why don't you put your money where your mouth is and upload a video of you speaking it "perfectly" then? Moron.
PassionatelyPurple 1 year ago 3
@PassionatelyPurple never said i could speak it perfectly but just pointed out that its not perfect......
stevengladius 1 year ago
@stevengladius But how can it NOT be perfect when he speaks it? It is HIS creation. Therefore, if this recital sounds different to other speakers attempts at the language, then that is simply because THEY are not speaking it perfectly. Not because he is not.
PassionatelyPurple 1 year ago 6
@stevengladius dude, if someone invents a whole language then they can pronounce it however they like and it will be perfect.
NorseRonin 1 year ago 5
@stevengladius Oh, yes, I'm sure YOU know how to pronounce and speak Quenya perfectly. Enlighten, O wise one.
NenshouHinote 1 year ago
@stevengladius How can it not be perfect when he was the one who wrote it in the first place? You know more about this language than the creator himself?
Varda87 1 year ago 4
@stevengladius "Wouldn't say it's completely perfect but I guess it has to do with his English accent ..."
I know that countless others have reminded you of this, but THIS IS HIS OWN LANGUAGE. As such, he is pronouncing it perfectly. Who are you comparing against?
VOLDEMORThasrisen 1 year ago 8
Stuff like this really makes one wonder if such a place like Middle-earth once existed, doesn't it?
Moseslawgiver 1 year ago 4
That's incredible.
amel82light 1 year ago
Yeah, I agree, this sounds cool, as if you imagine those words coming straight from an elf. And his works, what can you say, The Hobbit is perfect. The Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece. The Silmarillion is above that. Go Tolkien!
DemiathDoomhammer 1 year ago 3
What an imaginative man! And earlobes like a Buddha too.
ghost2ber 1 year ago
It has such a lovely, lilting sound to it, I can't help but listen over and over again.
LadyLuria 1 year ago
The Real One Master!
ThristanBR 1 year ago
He gets the up and down pitch he intended Quenyan to have more than anyone else ever has
1ServantofThor1 1 year ago
@1ServantofThor1 I certainly hope so since he invented the language :P
ryodark 1 year ago 2
I get chills up my spine whenever I hear this language spoken.
MorganBatChava 1 year ago
:: This brought tears of joy to my eyes. Thank you so much, chamberofrecords, for uploading this gem. Whoa. That is really something. Nai eleni siluvar antalyannar ~ (•8-D
Clematisian 1 year ago 2
A friend of mine suggested that Klingon was as well developed a language as Elven (his words), and I scoffed at him.
EighteenBuddha 1 year ago
@tiriancreed you are right. Quenya was outlawed by King Thingol once he learned of the kinslayong at Alqualonde
kentatsu05 1 year ago
Tolkien was a passionate artist in his fields of interest and excelled in what he did best. A genius in his own right.
benalleyn 1 year ago 2
sooo.. what is he saying?
leafclash 1 year ago
A genious!
A master.
ruimcs 1 year ago 2
What a treat to hear this. You will read in various sources that he had old Finnish epic texts in mind in crafting the high elven language. Listen to someone speaking fluent Finnish and you can hear the resonance and especially the rhythm of the prose.
manthasagittarius 1 year ago
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This guy had no life.
YouFoolWarrenIsDead 1 year ago
@YouFoolWarrenIsDead He was a college professor and did stuff like this for a living. He had a wife and kids, fought in WWI, completed analysis on Beowolf and ancient nordic texts. He was a literature buff. It's not a life everyone would want, but he did what he loved and created beautiful works of art.
TirianCreed 1 year ago 6
@TirianCreed Yeah yeah i know. Just messing.
YouFoolWarrenIsDead 1 year ago
What a beautiful, musical language. You don't have to be obsessed with LOTR (I hugely admire it. The Silmarrillion is my favorite piece of literature) to understand it's beauty. In song it is eerie.
TirianCreed 1 year ago
A great man a genius Lord of the Rings is the most beautiful story
TheHistoryForum 1 year ago
@TheHistoryForum No the Hobbit is (:
In my opinion
LickUpTheRainbow 1 year ago
Such a beautiful language - and he spoke it so well too.
DCLeadboot 1 year ago
If you're trying to learn one of the two languages, Quenya or Sindarin, I'd warrant Sindarin to be the better: since it is more used in the tales pertaining to Middle-Earth, there is a broader purview of the language therein.
Oblivionfolk 1 year ago
What is best to learn, Quenya or Sindarin?
ElfPrincess1901 1 year ago
I would learn Quenya. Sindarin generally sounds more poetic, and you see it more in the books, but Quenya is much more complete. (Neither of them are at all complete, Quenya just has MUCH more vocabulary)
Simberloffian 1 year ago
@Simberloffian Thank you. They are both beautiful languages.
ElfPrincess1901 1 year ago
@ElfPrincess1901 Quenya is the best to learn. Not that middle earth exists, but if it did, they wouldn't speak Sindarin on an every day basis. Quenyan is the language of the masses. Sindarin to the Elves is like old English to us. It is a more proper form of the language and was spoken by the ancients. It is understood by the Elves, but again, not spoken in the everyday.
amusementparkmayhem 1 year ago
@amusementparkmayhem However, neither (especially Sindarin) can be spoken fluently. Tolkien never finished the languages. But this was not because of a lack of time or effort, it was because he so loved creating that he kept revising and changing different aspects of the languages. It wouldn't be any fun to complete the language entirely, then there would be nothing left to play with.
amusementparkmayhem 1 year ago
@amusementparkmayhem Thank you!
ElfPrincess1901 1 year ago
@amusementparkmayhem I am currently reading the Silmarrillion and wasn't Quenya the language spoken by the Noldor and banned to the Teleri. Wasn't Sindarin the common language?
TirianCreed 1 year ago
@TirianCreed - Sindarin was the language of the gray elves in Endor, the eastern lands.
Teleri can be said to be one version of it, or a language of its own (hard to say, there's not much material on Teleri), since Teleri mainly points to the sea elves in Valinor (Valimar? now I confuse these 2) - the immortal lands.
Quenya was the language of Noldor, mainly - but in Valinor it was also the language of the Vanyar, I think. They were one nation there. In Endor it was a Noldo language, basically
timomastosalo 1 year ago
@amusementparkmayhem I believe you have that backwards. :) Qenya was the High Elvish and Sindarin was more common - amongst the Elves. The Hobbits and Men spoke a language that was a mixture of their native languages in Middle-Earth and the language of the Numenoreans. Only the more educated among men and Hobbits even knew Sindarin and for a mortal to know any Qenya was "mind-blowing" to the High Elves.
yzetta 7 months ago
this is the man.
ChilSeongGeom 1 year ago
Epic!!
emiliestenberg 1 year ago
In every word that he speaks, you can hear, that he loved this language. He really lived in Middleearth. If you can say that like that.
Laurastare 1 year ago 2
Quenya should be an official language and be including in Google Translator.
XxchimpanzeexX 1 year ago 190
@XxchimpanzeexX You can even set google on klingon. ;-)
Trandul 10 months ago
Bow to the master.
ambereyes93 1 year ago 5
Incredible how he speaks Quenya without faltering nor hesitating.Then again, this IS his language.Tolkien is undoubtedly a very gifted man.
inostwinsister 1 year ago 186
@inostwinsister He is -THE- gifted man. Fantastic.
hczxp 1 year ago
@inostwinsister i wish i could practice both Sindarin and Quenya.. amazing man!!!..... eglerio ( praise right)?
jondominguez12 11 months ago
@inostwinsister This was the language of his heart.
AronofskysKumo 11 months ago 3
G R A N D!
noxnocturne 1 year ago
I think it's great that fans have the opportunity to listen to Tolkien. It's amazing how he just recited the whole of 'Namarie' without taking a breather, it seems to me. Thanks for sharing this!
Erendis913 1 year ago 3
does anybody know any site where I can learn Quenya or Sindarin??
DragonSoke 1 year ago 2
Thats so cool!
Elvenarcher753 1 year ago
What is most beautiful - Quenya or Sindarin? I think Sindarin is SOOO pretty, but is it harder to learn? I dont think Sindarin sound that finnish, and im from Norway.
camih001 2 years ago 2
@camih001 Quenya is based in finnish not Sindarin
Pullaattori007 2 years ago 3
Sindarin isn't supposed to sound like Finnish, Quenya is. I'm Finnish and I like the familiarity of Quenya. Sindarin is more exotic.
I guess it's really up to you. Others like different kinds of sounds.
Feanorielle 2 years ago 7
In fact it's not Sindarin the one that should sound like Finnish, but Quenya. Sindarin is meants to sound like Welsh instead.
That's right, Sindarin is as much pretty as Welsh is =)
YCerddod 1 year ago 2
quenya, is like the latin of elvish languange, and sindarin is like common language, much like english is to the world, even dwarves spoke it to be able to trade with them etc, even gave their children sindarin names -> donnie yen i.e english first name chinese last name, liek the dwarves hade thier names in sindarin then their real name in khuzdul : ]
Kudiz 1 year ago 4
Hey! Can anyone explain to me, what is Quenya and what is Sindarin?? Is that, like, two different ways to speak elvish, or two totally different langauges??? pls anyone!?
LoveDogoArgentino 2 years ago
Originally, all elves spoke the same language, but being separated geographically for thousands of years their language diverged. The Quenya is the "high" elven and the Sindarin is the common elven tongue of Middle Earth. To learn more read the Silmarillion. It contains the history of the elves and will root you in Tolkien's mythology. It also has some neat stories that would make great movies in their own right.
CousinRandy26814 2 years ago 4
@LoveDogoArgentino two different languages
Pullaattori007 2 years ago
God have spoken. O.O
MaglorTheMinstrel 2 years ago
i would pay millions of dollars just to hear liv tyler recite this
JeffChen7x8 2 years ago 4
É óbvio que não é Finlandês, conquanto ele - J. R. R. Tolkien - tenha usado tal língua como inspiração; entretanto, ela é próxima, o que corroborei ao escutar muitas vezes a este vídeo, no que tange à pronúncia característica de seu inventor, ao Castelhano, que também fôra mui cogitado para as bases do idioma criado, bem como o próprio J. R. R. Tolkien admitiu em seus tempos...
hlutt 2 years ago
Tolkien did develop at least one of his Elvish language while learning Finnish. He loved the Kalevala. And he did this as a teenager. Was bored with mere Greek and Latin.
commonpreyr 2 years ago
Aikamoista siansaksaa :)
In other words, this definitely does sound like Finnish to my finnish ears, like something a little child might spew out when learning to speak. Apparently finnish kids speak elvish. And if you take into consideration that this is a poem recital, and compare this to what Kalevala sounds like when recited, the influence is obvious.
abubum 2 years ago 3
Heh. Siat puhuu saksaa? :P
But yeah, he practically composed Quenya as Finnish with Welsh vocabulary and Latin writing, so while the structures and grammar is that of Finnish, that doesn't help in understanding the Welsh-like words.
SindarinElealar 2 years ago
it's all Finnish to me...(hehe i'm Greek)
maedrosGR 2 years ago 9
IMO this doesn't resemble Finnish nearly as much as some might think. The largest resemblance is that the sounds would be easy for a Finn to pronounce. tintalle varda oiolosseo...But the overall tune is non-Finnish. Or that's how I see it.
eyeel 2 years ago
There's is a lot of Finnish in there - long, drawn together sentence runs, yet the rythm is more flowing and less heavy than finnish sometimes can be, perhaps having more of Icelandish (or perhaps certain dialiects of Swedish) quality to the vowel Sound, though less gutteral than islandish. Perhaps this is where the irish/welsh influence shows itself? :)
Wereduck75 2 years ago
Such beauty in his words. I know the power of words and that is why I love them. The words he speaks are healing to me. I am new to You Tube and shy as well...so do bear with me as I learn.
01scribe 2 years ago
Wonderful! Reminds me of "Canturbury Tales"...
jimwalsh2001 2 years ago
best writer in history of fantasty
bartekgf 2 years ago 2
to : CaiusScriboniusCurio .
learn to read decriptions
asd6265 2 years ago
Beautiful lenguage !
caibarien71 2 years ago
COOL! Can someone write translation? This is awsome! Thanx man!
CaiusScriboniusCurio 2 years ago
The master.
TheDeviousDeception 2 years ago 2
I love JRR Tolkien. Undoubtedly my favourite author and favourite linguist. I do not think it sounds like German; it sounds very much like Finnish. (It was influenced a lot by Finnish, so...it shows.)
camillerocks911 2 years ago
Mornie utolie, mornie atlantie, si man i yulma nin enquantuva? Namarie^^
akumie 2 years ago
oh man, this is good, Tolkien is the best
aeglos55 2 years ago 6
sounds like German a lot to me..but anyway I always admired the man's genius in creating his own world and going further by inventing a new language..Middle-Earth rocks!
LOL
liquidchicken23 2 years ago
@liquidchicken23
That's right but not just Middle-Earth rocks, Valimar, Numenor, Eressea and Eldamar too :) Tolkien FOREVER nobody could be better!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ApollonAcheus 2 years ago 9
im german an i wish my motherlanguage would be that beautiful, its not even similar :-(
anaways... he rocks :-)
dasAlx 2 years ago 3
@liquidchicken23 As a fluent bi-lingual speaker of both English and German, this sounds more like the undulating rhythm of a Scandinavian language, specifically Swedish, combined with the song-like flow of a Gaelic language such as Irish. Furthermore, the so-called guttural sounds are not as pronounced as in German, and again more like Swedish, Presumably, this would make sense as he was a scholar of Anglo-Saxon (Old English to the lay), which has been said to have had a Scandinavian quality.
wolfxer0 2 years ago
You're certainly right that there is no semblance of German in here.
cbrusharmy 2 years ago
Being a Swede, I have to disagree with you on the point of that it sounds like Swedish. The intonation is to me very much Finnish, especially the first line "Ai! Laurié lantar lassi súrinen!"
However, it doesn't really sound like Finnish either, but what influences it is, I can't say by listening, but researsh says Gaelic, Welsh and maybe some Norwegian.
Aringalad 2 years ago 3
@aringalad
Norwegian Hell Yeah !!!
lucky me !!
wen0n 2 years ago 2
Tolkien is Master
HerrAnonymitet 2 years ago 4
All hail master Tolkien!
Aringalad 2 years ago 2