I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort to take away the power of rational decision, to drain people of their free will - and a hell of a lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all. For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain.
Gene Roddenberry
Religion is not merely the opium of the masses, it's the cyanide.
1. The cosmos is a gigantic flywheel making 10,000 revolutions a minute.
2. Man is a sick fly taking a dizzy ride on it.
3. Religion is the theory that the wheel was designed and set spinning to give him a ride.
Henry Mencken
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.
Atheism is essentially based on your inability to explain how the universe came to be and is supposedly scientific? You claim atheists have debunked the laws of thermodynamics?
Laws of thermodynamics have never been refuted. Entropy steadily increases with every chemical reaction.
Science and religion go together and thermodynamics strongly infer the source of the universe will not be controlled by the laws of thermodynamics. (strongly infers the source is eternal). You get an F in logic
Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
Now the seperate issue of science, have you considered entropic effect of life itself. biological life we know of is dependent on the fact that our planet is in a "border" condition allowing the conversion of massive amounts of ordered solar energy being vented into entropic heat. In terms of the second law, biological life is an inconsequential side effect.
Try and get the basics right like what is Atheism.
"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2][3] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist"
Thats it nothing more or less. So blahing on about science etc has nothing to do with Atheism as such. Ironically using science is what debunks the magic in the bible and its invention
@VideoAudioDisco09 For every "natural" chemical reaction, entropy increases, ALWAYS. No one has debunked the laws of thermodynamics. Atheist viewpoint is obviously not based on science. You also claim you don't have to explain. Really?
Brainless responses are all I have seen in your emotion filled position.
Laws of thermo require us to logical ask, "SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERVE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS OR SPIRITUAL BEINGS IN THIS UNIVERSE?"
You have only shown emotion in your repsonse. HMMMMM!
Saul Of tarsus... aka PAUL, never MET jesus nor claimed to meet jesus, so you fallacial arguement that Saul wouldn't have been fooled by a lookalike (which is a bad arguement anyway, he didnt have a look alike) because Paul never saw him in the first place. MOOT POINT. FAULTY LOGIC. Jesus is a composite character. You are superstitious and silly. Why do atheists know your own religion better than you. Drop faith and get a hooker.
Based on Laws of thermodynamics, the universe is not able to sustain itself.No Atheist has ever explained how the universe was created based on the presupposition that only the natural world exists, even though scientific data verifies all natural things degrade
Logic requires we ask, "SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERVE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS IN THIS UNIVERSE?
Correlation between Texts in Acts and archaeological evidence at the 99.9 confidence level refutes your opinion. Got DATA?
@TwoAngelsVision - Well it's easy enough to make a youtube video and claim you have data, I'd like to see what 'credible' scientists who were not biased by your particular faith had to say about such findings. As for your thermodynamics argument, why don't you try talking to a physicist or astrophysicist, or both, because it seems wrong somehow. Oh I know, you said the universe can't sustain itself because of thermodynamics? FALSE. .. more
@TwoAngelsVision - Since the laws of thermodynamics were based on observation and empirical evidence, meaning they DESCRIBE THE UNIVERSE, these laws could not describe a universe that would be unable to sustain itself. If the universe were unable to sustain itself, these 'laws' wouldn't exist. Your logic is completely faulty and there is nothing in thermodynamics that says a god is required to sustain the universe. That is your faulty interpretation. ...MORE
@riotseedco Based on the correlation between Acts and archaeological data at the 99.9% confidence level, your viewpoint (baseless opinion) has only 0.01% confidence level.
How can a person know there is a spiritual reality?
Jesus said, "Seek and you will find!"
People with intellect search and have found. We have experienced the presence of God despite your falacious assumptions about ultimate reality. Archaeological data provides a solid foundation for those experiences. You have 0 data
@riotseedco Actually, the presentation is for Muslims since the quran claims that Jesus had a look alike. Archaeological evidence from 1972, analyzed by a German scholar verifies the quran is the product of human manipulation.
search youtube "koran 70 years and puin" to find, only 3 minutes.
The hadith reveal that the qur'an under Caliph Uthman created a single quran version, then legislated that all non-conforming qur'ans be burned with fire. Archaeological finds verify the truth.
# Joshua ben Ananias (Ananius) was known for prophecy (e.g., destruction of the Temple) and preached the “end of times” until his death at Roman hands in 68/69 A.D.
# Joshua ben Saphat was a Galilean who led the Zealot revolt in Tiberias. Just before the city fell to Vespasian’s Legionnaires he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Dead Sea scrolls verify that Jewish people living at that time accepted Daniel as a prophet. Since Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks predicts the destruction of Jerusalem and the Zealots had the book of Daniel, your viewpoint is essential more skewing of reality.
# Joshua ben Stada was a Nazorean in 80 BC, who studied under a famous religious man, formed his own group, had disciples named Matthew and Thaddeus, was betrayed and killed at Passover. from Galilee , mother’s name was Mary.
# Joshua ben Sirach, the reputed author of the Book of Sirach (part of the Old Testament Apocrypha), who combined Jewish “wisdom” literature with Homeric-style heroes.
# Joshua ben Gamala rebel and “peace activist” who was put to death during the first Jewish rebellion.
I am an atheist i do not have to explain anything, I in essence don’t have a view.
Atheism is a rejection of any of the God hypotheses proposed by different peoples.
It is up to you to provide proof or evidence for your claims, which you cannot. You just regurgitate christian apologetics and a raft of argument fallacies.
1000 year s ago you would be arguing I can not explain where lightning comes from.
Now we’re getting down to the last little gaps for your god to hide in aren’t we. FAIL
Since you truly don't have a foundation based on your false assumption that you don't have to explain how the universe began in light of the fact that all natural things decay, you obviously don't have a credible foundation.
The logical question to ask based on the laws of thermo is required: SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERVE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS OR SPIRITUAL BEINGS IN THIS UNIVERSE?
I have already presented evidence where more than 1 person observed the effects of a spiritual being.
@VideoAudioDisco09 It is your assumption that science explains everything. Truth is "Science and religion elucidate each other"
You have not even attempted to explain how a natural world that decays can create another universe. Again, your BELIEF that you don't have to explain explicitly shows Atheism is unintelligible. You live life based on your false assumptions.
Christians at the same time and place observed the effects of a spiritual being, which answers the question i posed earlier!
@VideoAudioDisco09 Finally, your belief that brain studies account for spiritual experiences is shown to be another false assumption based on the fact that people observed the effects of a spiritual being at work as a deceiver. This is objective evidence for people who witnessed that event.
If you want to go down that path, then you MUST EXPLAIN "how a decaying natural universe can create another universe. The only known / observed universe can not even sustain itself.
As this twit is so keen on Archeological evidence, I suppose he has seen the evidence that Nazareth never exsisted when Jesus was alive. Bet he never mentions that.
Sad they have so little and it gets less and less, it is like watching a dog chase its tale, you think they will get warn out eventually. The rest of the world moves on.
@VideoAudioDisco09 I have been in Nazareth and was on the place where people opposed to Jesus would have pushed him from a cliff (ref: Luke 4:14-30). Very credible.
You only base your false worldview on the opinions of Atheist authors. Recent archaeological finds verify Nazareth was a small town at the time of Jesus. You really don't have anything to stand upon with your quote from another Atheist. Do more research.
I see when you are not regurgitating empty Apologetic rhetoric, full of futile attempts at refuting anything that questions your faith, like truth and reality. You use fallacies with false or questionable presupposition it is an utter failure. It is not worth demolishing each one as they are self defeating anyway.
Yet you find problems with the Qur'an which is based on the same framework as the bible and its “revelation”.
The failure of the Quran is just as the failure of the Bible.
Based on your inability to logically answer how the universe began based on the laws of thermodynamics, I begin to understand that your regurgitation of Atheist propaganda is normal. You cannot answer the question.
Biased Atheist minds are not able to answer the scientific question. You choose to ignore it and provide no supporting evidence for your view. The laws of thermodynamics and the WMAP data verify that you are simply biased and not interested in finding truth.
No one knows how the universe begun, how wouls I therefore know.
However we know there was a sudden expansion of space-time.
The laws of thermodynamics are all well intact and none broken.
Do not confuse Atheism with Science they are not the same. Many Atheists have no scientific knowledge at all, don't need it BS is BS don't need science to seee that.
However when scintific claims are made it is used to debunk the lies.
I am working on a science-religion interface webpage. It will begin with scientific fact. It will logically compare different religions and show how it is feasible to differentiate what religions are proven to be false as compared to religions that are viable.
If you read what Atheists promote as truth based on science, it becomes apparent that they are unintelligble on spiritual issues or how science relates to the spiritual. I leave their posts as examples of what is true ignorance.
@TwoAngelsVision I don't know that Daniel claimed Gabriel as his source. The reason that the Qur'an does not shine is that it is not a revelation from God through Gabriel. It is internally inconsistent, externally inconsistent, and generally unreliable.
@TwoAngelsVision The earliest manuscripts date more than two centuries after the supposed original and the people who were said to have memorized the sayings of Muhammad died in a war long before anything was written down. There is no reason that they could not have written it down during Muhammad's life. I find the Qur'an to be unreliable in many facets.
I am completely ignorant of the sprit so please tell me,
What is a spirit, where is it located, what does it look like, does it have any effect in the real world. Love to know because otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about...again.
Or are you just a troll, as I see all of what you claim has been debunked and a little research on your part would enlighten you to this.
A bell curve of people with varying beliefs would have atheists in one of the tails of the distribution. ON the opposing tail would be those who KNOW God, and many would classify them as mystics.
Atheists attempt to convince people based on their lack of spiritual knowledge. Essentially, it is a joke to listen to an atheist, who claims to know the spiritual truth but has no idea.
Mystics or Spirit-filled humans are knowledgeable on the subject. Listen to those who know truth!
If you take the time to study and truly investigate, you will find there is a spiritual reality. I studied in-depth for decades. Then God anointed me with a deep personal relationship. God is awesome.
Jesus is the real deal.
I had an out of body experience while fully awake. And the Lord spoke to me about the book of Revelation. I felt my soul without a NDE.
A religion without supernatural events is not the source. Only the Bible is filled with miracles. Think about it.
Attempts to make spiritual experiences appear to be false do not answer some of these experiences.
I was in a Bible study of Acts 16:16-19 fortuneteller. I taught that true psychics are spiritually possessed. A psychic was in the Bible study that night and the demon came out. Five people witness the being as it attempted to distract from the teaching. It made a bird squawk loudly and flap its wings.
In reality, the video does not state "PROVE". It is apparent that you are not oriented to details of what is being stated. Very simply, there are archaelogical finds that correlate to biblical texts. And this evidence makes the Christian faith viable. In contrast, the book of Mormon has not archaelogical findings. Therefore, it is based on fiction. The biblical word view is credible based on archaeological data and the fact that people can know God personally. God is FACT!
@TwoAngelsVision You are righ about the mormons. Is clearly man made. But for me the Christianity is also "man made" howvwver there are some posiive aspects on it. But my opinion, religion or similar "spiritual" expressions are a result of a process in wicbr men, having already reached good organized society , created religion. iT is interesthing because was out first attempt to explain the world. But god is not a fact. YOU may beliece in it, based in some sort of auto created rules.
@LowresTV If Jesus were a myth, then no archaeological evidence would be found. And we would be in agreement. However, the data brings your worldview into question. Also, no Atheist has explained how the universe is created if all that exists is natural based on laws of thermodynamics. Science, physical evidence, logic, and ultimately - personal experiences with God, bring the Atheist worldview into question. Not just subjective experiences since I have witnessed with others the same event.
@TwoAngelsVision Again...what archeological finds are tou talking about? As long as I know,there is NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER aBOUT Jesus. Christ is not a name, is a title. May not refer to Jesus.
If you really want to debunk the use of archaeological data, I suggest you study Colin Hemer's, The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History.There are 162 items cited on pages 109-158.
Earlist archaeological reference to Jesus in general is ignored. A burial cave with a coin dated to AD 42 in which was found the ossuary of Alexander, the son of Simon of Cyrene. Some of the ossuaries have crosses inscribed on them. Another cave has Yeshua inscribed on ossuaries, citing Jesus' name.
Here is a reference: "The Earliest Records of Christianity" by E.L. Sukenik, written in 1947 about discoveries ~ 1942 cave with such records.
Includes a house church at Pompei, Italy, buried by volcano in August AD 79 with a preserved cross. Review of this find reminds me of similar settings you find in small Christian churches around the world.
That find supports Paul traveled the roads as described in the book of Acts, which I have calculated to be at the 99.9% CL based on data.
@TwoAngelsVision Thanks...keep up your good works!!! I'm so very tired of the un-researched new-age atheists with their proven wrong zeitgeist garbage & any & all conspiracy theory junk, as well as the brainwashed glazed eyed Muslims repeating the lies & historically wrong twists that they have been taught like clones. Sad & sick.
@LowresTV I have several in the video. However, unless an Archaeologist is an Atheist or Minialist, you probably simply choose to ignore the finding. For example, Caiaphas ossuary is accepted as real. There were no issues with its finding in 1990. It is ornate. And the body remains inside fit the person.
Pontius Pilate inscription is accepted as real. Only recently have I found biased Atheist archaeologist question it. It only shows bias.
@LowresTV To have a correlation to the book of Acts, the item must correlate to the texts in the book of Acts. All 163 fit that criteria. And the finds are varied and are accepted by all archaeologists. It is an in-depth study by a true scholar. The list is on pages 109 - 158 in Hemer's book, "The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History". Ignoring all biases, the author concludes the book of Acts was written about AD 62, based on data, not opinion or bias.
What a ridiculous Narration!!! Jesus was a historical Figure!!! He was crucified and his Name was Yehoshua or Yashua! This Dude here is another fanatical Christian trying to prove stuff that simply cannot be proven. The Ossuaries are no proof for anything connected with Jesus!
Archaeological evidence correlates to biblical texts, making Christian faith viable.
No Atheist has been able to answer how universe came to be, based the laws of thermodynamics. IF all that existed were natural, than the source is also natural. But nature only degrades to lower levels. If the source is natural and degrades, how can the universe begin?
Therefore, "Should we expect to observe supernatural events or spiritual beings?"
@VideoAudioDisco09 An extremely biased and ill conceived comment since there really is no archaeological evidence for you supposed selected subject. Biased minds are really not interested in finding ultimate reality. Just promoting your mindless viewpoint in this case.
To date, no Atheist as explained how the universe was created (WMAP data) based on the laws of thermodynamics. If all that exists is the natural world and all natural things decay, how could the universe begin?
No people who are dumb make up rubbish to fill the gaps.
TwoAngelsVision-your English "sucks" please read your stupid comments. What natural laws are you talking about?
GIVE ME SOLD PROOF that you have actually seen "god" in your home.
NO PROOF=no "god", that's an easy answer.
You sound like a dumb ass, quoting silly linductions based upon theories that are so out of this world, that I believe Aliens would come down to Earth before any "god", and then where is your theory.
Atheists support their viewpoint with the "make believe" gap (as opposed to God of the gaps). Blind faith to be a atheist.
For example, thermodynamics data shows the universe can't sustain itself. IF only natural laws apply, then our universe could not birth another universe. Same applies to the source of our universe. The source of the universe cannot be controlled by laws of decay. The source must be above natural law. Therefore, supernatural is a logical induction based on nature.
Please Atheists don't support a veiw point and many have different view on many things.
They simple do not subscribe to any "faith" or deity.
-no evidence or credible reason to accept any magic filled story
-continued debunking of authorship
-the ability to read the bible themselves, thus exposing hypocracy, contradiction and error. Showing a composite document that has evolved based on theological doctrine.
-the explaining of natural events by peer reviewed science
@VideoAudioDisco09 this is why i go straight to testimonial evidence of christ showing personal revelations to his followers exactly the way the father in the bible speaks i have some in my playlist as well
Yes but "testimonial evidence " is rife accross all religions, all religions have ultimate proof they are the right one. Lookin from outside they can not all be right, even within religion there are differing sects which can not all be right. When it comes to "Miricles" no statistical difference between religions or non belief.
So you really go looking for specific support for your belief, no matter what you believe you will always find some "Testomonial" support.
@VideoAudioDisco09 mkay how much time do you actually spend on studying the other religions and theyre gods? and can you tell me the differences in each one and which other god gives theyre prophets dreams and visions and when they die actually show them secret things?
It is in the brain. Sources ? Do you care won't you just denigh the evidence.
It is no secret there is plenty of experiments, research and studies that indicate a neurological mechinism for spirituality just look them up and read.
-Studies have clearly shown a relationship between religious experience and temporal lobe epilepsy.
-Magnetic field test induced an experience in over 80% of test subjects.
@VideoAudioDisco09 no not all im very open to learning more so long as i have time to know more about my god and yes my evidence is very realiable i am familiar with my god on a personal level try to understand that please no drugs needed alright no offense
@VideoAudioDisco09 Your viewpoint is nixed by groups of observers of spiritual/supernatural events. If you're intellectually honest, you have to dig deeper rather than simply positing your biased viewpoint with misinformation.
What occurs at death is only 1 reason for religion. More relevant, people experience God today and sometimes there are many people present that observe an event. This makes the event objective evidence among those present. I have been in groups of people (eg 5 people) that witnessed spiritual beings at work. In this case, a psychic was in the Bible study and the demonic being caused a bird to squawk incessantly to distract from the teaching, which came from Acts 16:16-19. psychics are possessed.
@matrixlone I have spent hundred of hours studying Islam. specifically, the Book of Daniel and the Qur'an based on the fact that each book claims to have the same source, the Archangel Gabriel. IF the source is the same spiritual being, then both books should have the same position. But, they are diametrically opposed views, meaning one is a deceiver and the other is potentially credible.
I have scientifically dated the 70 weeks prophecy. Daniel shines but the Qur'an does not. Why?
Unfortunately Neuro-Science is slowley uncovering the sources of these hallucination and we know prayer does not work. The same group hysteria is used in Rock concerts, big sales conventions and was used at the nuremberg rally y Hitler. Recent MIR showed someone speaking in toungs showed reduced activity in the frontal lobe where basically reality is processed, he was quite sure he was not in control he was right but it was not god.
@VideoAudioDisco09 oh god mkay look up angelica zambrano because what she saw was no dream or vision because she was actually dead and before she died god confirmed to her when she would die so she can see the things she saw and theres others also i dont hear anything about santa claus walking them through hell and heaven also some didnt even believe in christ or god dont act like i have to be some kinda expert to know how god works you can read the book of daniel nice try though
You don't buy this do you? There are as many Hoax threads. That creates some very amusing questions. many people have this experience, many do not. Means nothing.
Children who died and recovered have reported being in hell with monsters that look like Pokemon creatures.
Hindus would see Vishnu
Some say nothing
Is it true she starved herself for a time before the loss of reallity.
Look up Cargo-Cults give insite to humans wish to believe and cultural indoctrination.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Why haven't you explained how the universe came to be if all that exists is natural based on the laws of thermodynamics. All natural things are decaying. So if all that exists is natural, then no universe could be created.
For the universe to exist, the source will not be subject to natural law. The source must be ABOVE natural law (therefore - supernatural). The inference is strong and requires us to ask, Should we observe supernatural events in this universe?
@hippiefreak66 Because there is evidence that shows the Christian faith to be viable. For example, the book of Mormon storyline has no archaeological finds. Therefore, it is logical to conclude it is fiction. Not so with the Biblical storyline with suffcient correlating evidence to conclude that the mission trips in the book of Acts did occur at the 99.9% confidence level. That means you have only 0.01% confidence in your biased statement. Not very credible at 0.01% CL.
The source of the universe cannot be controlled by laws of decay. The source must be above natural law. Therefore, supernatural is a logical induction based on nature.
Must it..........
Thats like saying a cat is a mouse because it has a tail and whiskers - a logical induction based on nature.
Do you ever think or are just so embattled defending the indefencable against the rising tide of reality and knowledge. Sigh.........
@VideoAudioDisco09 Truth is, your cat mouse analogy simply ignores the fact that all things decay. The WMAP data establishes the universe was created 13.8 billion years ago. And all stars are decaying. Given time, all stars will burn out. Since you are an Atheist and ASSUME that only the natural world is reality, please explain how only the natural world (only capable of decay and degradation), can create a universe?
Can you only give a pathetic - irrelevant analogy?
Your answer is based on circular reasoning. You have failed to explain how the universe began if all that exists is natural & thermodynamic laws verify all natural things degrade.
Intellectually honest people conclude that the Atheist worldview is non-credible.
Logically, the source would not be decaying. Moreover, it is logical & necessary to ask, "SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERV SUPERNATURAL OR SPIRITUAL EVENTS IN THIS UNIVERSE?"
TwoAngelsVision-please tell me where to find the so called evidence you speak about. You talk about Archaeological Evidence-from where did this come?
Archaeological Evidence is hard factual evidence, a piece of bone, a ruin, a plate, or drawings. Not some book that has been "doctored" and translated so many times that there can be no truth. How can you make such false statements, the Koran is just part of a religion, who says it ain't true.
Actually, I wonder if you viewed the videos. Archaeological data is documented extensively in multitudes of books. I used archaeological data from Dr. Colin Hemer that shows a correlation between the discoveries and the book of Acts at the 99.9% confidence level.
Has the Bible been changed?
Scholars have detailed analysis and written books that supports the Christian faith is on solid ground. The NT is ~99.5% accurate with no theological viewpoint in question.
i don't know where you get this stuff but it is not from credible authors and research.
I can see that with 99.999999% accuracy.
I do agree a good part of the bible has some truth, after all places exsisted most characters exsisted and it was around these things the myths, magic and new religion was born, based on a jew who had no intention of creating a new religion (if jesus even exsisted-its in question) but the story was hijacked, turned into a roman myth and here we are.
I calculated based on data from a scholarly book. I reviewed the data 5 times in-depth. The calculation is based on the assumption that the Bible is false and therefore, we should find 0 evidence to support it. The calculation uses the Chi-square test of independence from the worldview that we should not find even 1 item to support the texts. The correlation at the 99.9% confidence level is based on 162 correlations to 165 issues. This verifies Paul traveled the roads as a missionary.
wayinoutreach-reading through your personnel comments regarding my intelligence only confirms that you have NO-EVIDENCE that Jesus or God exists.
I asked ANYONE if they had proof that Jesus or God existed, you confirmed that the Catholic church used PAGAN festivals to "gain" more people to their religion.
Please don't insult my intelligence with your brain-washed theories.
People believe in "gods" because they are simple minded, scared of what might happen if they go against the religion.
@MichaelJordon1 You sure have!! That is why everyone is their own god, everyones' moral code is correct because it's theirs & they are god & it's a real god eat god world out there. Do you know how foolish you sound. Yes, the Roman Catholic church set those holidays over pagan festivals to try to draw more people to the church as opposed to the festivals. It does provide fools like you who don't think we know some material to make a "talking ass" of yourself!!!
We agree about pagan beliefs were later inculcated by the Catholic church. However, God is FACT based on Laws of Thermodynamics, WMAP data verifies the universe had a beginning, accelerating expansion of the universe shows the oscillating (eternal) universe is false, and ultimately that people know God exists as revelation is given. The proof is having a relationship with God. Your bias keeps you from finding reality.
Thats not proof retard. Eyewitnesses arent eyewitnesses if they didnt exist. There is absolutly no proof that there was a jesus christ. There is no proof that there is a god, there is no proof that any religion is real. If you think so you need to look up the definition of proof. Just because someone wrote down that they saw something doesnt mean they actually saw it. I can say I had brunch with an alagator and fucked a monkey, doesnt make it true.
I DONT SEE WHY IGNORANT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME! "HAH I FOUND AN OLD ASS ROCK AND JEWELERY HOLDER, THEREFORE JESUS IS REAL! FUCK YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS!"
Nahhhh broseph, see things like that dont fly in my airspace. When your ass tells me what is right and wrong and whos feelings i should hurt, then fuck you. This video right here.., what your basically doing is trying to shove christianity down our throats with your so called "Evidence" and thats a sin in itself. You know what i thi
Sir, what this video does is show the disconnect between what the quran claims about Jesus in contrast with the NT. This is the great disconnect between the two faiths. Archaeological evidence supports the NT but not even 1 archaeological item has been uncovered to support the claims in the quran. Therefore, blind faith required to believe the quran. That is the fact.
Nobody shoves Christian faith down a Muslims throat.
@DCNEPTUNE Thanks for sharing your biased viewpoint since you have no data to support it. Archaelogical evidence supports that both Muhammad and Jesus existed. The disconnect is that the Koran proclaims that Jesus did NOT die on the cross. But no archaeological evidence has been uncovered to support that viewpoint. In contrast, scholars have studied the evidence and verified it. The calculations are correct based on the scholarly book referenced in the video.
Oh look Jerusalem is mentioned a biblical place the story must be true.
HA HA HA, New York exists therefore Superman is real, Japan is a real place so Godzilla is true. Wake Up.
What archeological evidence, I have never seen any and I look very hard.
There is a lot of nonsensical claims that have been debunked and there are various conclusions that have been drawn that a 7 year old can tell are not close to logical or supported in any way.
Since there are over 160 items that correlate to the story line in the books, we calculate that the evidence supports that the Apostle Paul traveled the roads as written in the book of Acts @ 99.9% confidence level. IF no correlation exists (text and to archaeological discoveries), then we would coclude that the book of Acts is fictional.
A good example of a "holy book" that is fiction based is the book of Mormon. Not even 1 archaeological item has been found to support the storyline.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Well you got it right about Jerusalem and many other sites verified by scholars and archaeologists. But the evidence is more than the existence of the cities, which includes titles of governing people, practice of Roman law, presence of synagogues in specific cities and not in others etc (a large list of items).
In contrast, the book of Mormon has no evidence for even 1 city, the evidence of horses prior to Christopher Columbus. So BOM is verified to be fiction.
saul of tarsus in the bible never met jesus in person.
There is NO Archeological evidence that supports Christianity.
If you want to go with the story as written, Caiaphas was to see Jesus (actually the correct translation is "Joshua") return real soon in person. He lived and died and "Jesus" never returned. Christians ignore the bible and say a time is not given, when it clearly is 'a false prophet at best.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Try watching(if you dare) Archeology: Digging for the Truth of the Bible. It turned an Atheist to a believer.
There is all kinds of archeological evidence. But for those who will not believe under any circumstances, Jesus showing you the holes in his hands & his feet would not be enough. Those are truly blind. As Jesus said "None are so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE". OPEN MINDED!! Yeah right!!
We don't ignore 1 tittle of the Bible. Jesus Saves!!!
@wayinoutreach I have made an effort but 20min was all I could take. As expected NOTHING but, I think or in my opinion by Don Patton who questionably has a Geology degree and an MA in something PHD is a secret as I and apparently others can not find anything. Polite Enquiries to the relevant creationist cult clubs has met with silence. He quotes Wyatt who is not recognised by any archeological body and is in fact considered a joke he is either a con man or certifiably insane. Nothing again.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Actually, He is very much alive & He sits at the right hand of God. That's the beauty of it all. And He did all that for us!
And I am going to let you research that all on your own if you are really curious. You never know, you may discover more than you thought & you might even gain some faith. I love researching the Bible, from all angles & science & archeology have helped so much. Even Hubble helps. Check out the Hebrew Mazzaroth. I find that facinating & God did it!!!
When archaeological items correlate to biblical stories, then the Bible becomes a viable faith.
In regards to the idea that Jesus said he would return in 1 generation, please explain Luke 21:20-24. The final verse takes in the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70 and is fulfilled when the Jewish people gained control of Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. Verse 24b takes in 1897 years for that specific prophecy.
Please take the time to actually read and THINK about those 4 verses before reponding.
Viable faith remember Faith is belief without evidence. Which by the way by its very definition atheism can not be a faith. In fact atheism is all about no faith, no belief in deities, like you, I just go one more.
You should read 21:all of it. Failed prediction and an address to the currently living on what to expect and at 32: 32 “Truly I tell you, THIS GENERATION will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. DO I NEED EXPLAIN - READ IT
What is faith to people who observe spiritual events?
For example, if you were Matthew the tax collector, who witnessed miracles, Jesus' death and resurrection, then how do you define faith for Matthew, the witness?
Or since I have observed the evidence of spiritual beings at work with 4 other people, how do you define faith for people that witness supernatural events?
Most modern critical scholarship concludes that Luke used the Gospel of Mark for his chronology and a hypothetical sayings source Q document for many of Jesus' teachings. Luke may also have drawn from independent written records. Not a witness.
@VideoAudioDisco09 Luke wrote the book of Acts as an observer. Hemer's scholarly work shows archaeological data correlating to the texts at the 99.9% confidence level.
Luke's gospel 1:1-3 shows that Luke interviewed the original eyewitnesses. This is supported in the book of Acts since Luke went to Jerusalem with Paul (99.9% confidence level in that trip based on data). Paul knew Peter and James, the brother of Jesus. Archaeological data correlates to the texts.
@TwoAngelsVision Very good....wow there are some real wierdos commenting. Sad. DCNeptune needs a saviour like Jesus more than most. His Mohammed was a murdering pedophile with 13 wives. Not a prophet. Not even one Muslim can agree with what he really said as there was NO evidence, just what was written about Muhammed 5 generations later!
@GoodyBob Thanks for your support. I find interesting that Atheist bias blinds them to the point that they ignore data. The scientific world view is based on data. No Atheist has answered how the universe can begin if all that exists is the natural world. And the fact that all natural things decay (laws of thermo). For this viewpoint, I have only witnessed unintelligible answers. No thought whatsoever! It is credible that we will observe supernatural events in this universe. I have witnessed it
I missed it. Please point out what archeological evidence establishes that anyone looked in Jesus' eyes. That someone existed does not prove they were within a hundred miles of the event that day.
So whoever made up the story included actual people in it. Is there any archological evidence that these people were not a hundred miles away that day?
@Puck2442 Scholars and archaeologists have examined the data. The correlation to the book of Acts is at the 99.9% confidence level. The book of Acts correlation has no correlation to the people who looked into Jesus on that day. But it does make the Christian faith viable. Archaeological finds do verify people existed, who according to Biblical texts, were present with Jesus on that day.
I find that you view your subjective OPINION of greater value than data?
Yes, the data indicates these people were real but reports of their actions on any given date has zero archaeological evidence supporting it. That any of them were within a hundred miles of Jesus that day is OPINION.with no evidence whatsoever.
Were I to claim JFK was at my birthday party last year, historical evidence of the reality of JFK would not change the fact that my story was false.
Where is the evidence they were eyewitness' to anything?
Video correct, thanks, but these posters are so way wrong & misled! There are over 50 proven records of Jesus OUTSIDE the Bible even & written by most who were enemies w/nothing to gain = HISTORY. see Sir William Ramsay, the famous EX-atheist set out to prove Luke & Acts wrong. After yrs. of digs he proved Luke correct to the smallest detail! He said Luke was the best historian! And many others like Ramsay are not skeptics anymore as their archaeology & PROVEN history proved most correct.
There is still no contemporary record of the life of Jesus during his supposed lifetime. No mention at all, which is odd considering that if Jesus were attracting thousands of followers the Roman and Jewish scholars of the time would have certainly recorded it, especially the Romans, who were ever vigilant to troublemakers stirring up rebellion. Listing known historical figures such as Pontius Pilate as evidence of the existence of Jesus proves nothing.
The greatest issue with your viewpoint is that there are more than 300 archaeological items correlating to events in Acts. This calculates to a correlation at the 99.9% confidence level.
The Alexander ossuary can be dated by a coin dated to AD 42. Crosses are on many of the ossuary and some inscribed "Yeshua" in Hebrew. Yeshua's name is inscribed on ossuary very early.
To know Jesus can be proven in our time by personal relationship. next post
You don't believ Jesus acctually died on the stake/cross do you.
What with all the scholars, which you seem to like when theyy support your veiw.
Say this was not so including many theologins and christian schoarls whom have the honesty to go with the evidence.
It may not have been a deliberate lie, it could have been a mistake to think he was dead. (assuming the story is true, which it could be, they executed many criminals).
I was in a Bible study where a spiritual being came out of a psychic and caused a bird to squawk frantically and to beat its wings to distract from teaching. Five people in the room witnessed the event, making it objective evidence of the spiritual world.
Over 6-months, the bird never did anything but sit in its cage. That night was beyond unusual. Your worldview is false.
Evidence abounds and you choose to ignore it based on faulty assumptions.
Your EMOTIONAL RELIGION has you totally brainwashed and it is obvious you are so narrow minded, you don't accept anyone's viewpoint.
I have reference credible scholarly works that detail archaeological evidence and permit mathematical calculations. I also show the relevance of laws of thermodynamics. Why did not respond to the scientific perspective?
@TwoAngelsVision Christianity is brainwashing. How else can you get so many people to believe in something that has NO evidence. ITs like worshiping the easter bunny or tooth fairy, oh almost forgot santa claus.
@lespauls61 Sorry dude, the easter bunny, santa claus and tooth fairy are not in the
Bible. You've got your wires crossed and can't think straight.
At the end of the 19th century, scholars questioned Acts credibility for Greek Titles of local magistrates. Since then, more than 30 items were uncovered. Thus, a single correlation was shown credible between Scripture and ancient artifacts. These finds establish a credible correlation with more than 300 documented.
Perhaps I do get emotional, it is 2010 and with the evidence available I really think this would be over. So mankind can put superstitious nonsence behind it and move on.
Scholars argue and disagree, Archeologically there is no doubt places exsisited and certain events took place however because this was clearly padded out as a story of religious activity that does not make the narative true. In fact scholars have uncovered more invention the harder they looks.
@solinvictus39 The anti-Christian viewpoint has no evidence to verify that Jesus did not exist or that Christian faith is based on myth.
An good example of a myth based faith is the book of Mormon BOM. No archaelogical evidence has been found. DNA tests verify the BOM is false. Claims in the BOM supports Indians have Jewish blood.
Also, what quantity of written material survived 2000 years? Less than 0.01%. The finds to date means there is much more to Christ than your poor assumptions.
1) What scientific evidence do you have to support the claim that mormon holy book is myth?
2) you said, "The anti-Christian viewpoint has no evidence to verify that Jesus did not exist or that Christian faith is based on myth." What scientific evidence do you have for the christian viewpoint supporting that christian faith is not based on myth? Understand, the bible is NOT scientific evidence to support such a claim. That being said, where's your evidence?
Regarding BOM and scientific evidence. To begin, BOM storyline is that Jewish people came to the American continent in the 6th century BCE. They brought horses, swords, created coins, etc.
Problem is that no archaeological evidence has been found to support the storylilne. No pre-columbian horse remains exist in the American continents. No coins, etc...
DNA tests of native Indians reveal no relationship to Jewish descendents. DNA verifies the storyline in BOM is mythic.
@TwoAngelsVision "Problem is that no archaeological evidence has been found to support the storylilne. " What archaeological evidence has been found to support the storyline of Jesus Christ rising from the dead?
@99minerkc It's funny because you still have NOT provided a shed of empirical evidence yet you expect people to embrace your extraordinary claims by faith! No thanks, not interested!
@99minerkc Unlike the BOM, the storyline of Acts has more than 300 unique finds correlating to the texts. If Acts were mythic, nothing would have been uncovered. This is a beginning point.
Specific Local Knowledge required the authors to be on site:
We shall list examples exclusively from Acts 13-28, which are concerned
with Paul' s travels, and lend themselves to the supposition
that Luke possessed intimate knowledge of local circumstances.
Details on the pages cited from "The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History" can be catalogued and analyzed.
The details of historic artifacts do not prove the spiritual stories in the Bible to be true. But they make the Bible a viable faith. [the contrast with BOM is absolutely no archaeological finds to support the storyline].
Since less than 0.1% of ancient history remains, more than 300 finds is extraordinary to establish a credible storyline.
In regards to archaeological evidence supporting Jesus' resurrection, we rely on the storyline of the Bible having a correlation to the archaeological evidence. And it is credible to ask, "Why did Saul of Tarsus, a persecutor of early Christians, do a 180° change to become a Christian?
In Acts, Saul's conversion story is given. How much faith is required to believe such stories?
Since the physical side of Acts is credible at the 99.9% confidence level, a small amount of faith is needed.
@TwoAngelsVision The bible is not evidence is it a book of stories from non witness sources of which has been constantly re-written over the centuries and stories changed to make it sound good.
I have already presented that Laws of Thermo.. support the universe cannot have a natural source. And ask, "Since thermodynamic laws do not explain the origin of the universe, should we expect to observe supernatural events in this universe?"
Saul of Tarsus conversion story is credible based on the thermodynamics premise.
Can people seeking spiritual truth have a Saul of Tarsus conversion? Thus, I write of spiritual observations observed with others present.
Since less than 0.1% of ancient artifacts remain, finding over 300 with a 99.9% correlation to Acts is astounding, which makes Christian faith viable.
Due to such a good correlation between Acts and artifacts, a key find is the Gallio Inscription dated to ~ AD 51. The find is key since dating events in Acts can be done. And the biography of Apostle Paul germane to Pauline texts is established. This also establishes WHEN pauline epistles were written. 1 Corinthians written ~AD 54. next
1 Corinthians 15:3 supports that Paul and the early day Christians accepted Jesus' resurrection from the very beginning (~30 to 34 AD). The history of Paul is given in Galatians 1 and 2 that supports this viewpoint based on archaeological data correlating to Acts. [Paul converted by ~32 to 37 AD]
The viewpoint that the resurrection was established late in the 1st century is challenged by the artifacts that correlate to biblical texts at the 99.9% confidence level.
@TwoAngelsVision That just means they believed in a story they did not witness anything. This is not evidence. There is NO archeological or historical evidence that indicates a jesus or a crucifixtion
@TwoAngelsVision Wrong the bible is not considered reliable evidence. Just because someone "accepted the story doesnt mean jack. ANd there is NO archeological evidence to support anything jesus related in the bible NOTHING.
Regarding Christian faith, the storyline in the book of Acts has substantial archaeological data verifying the physical stories did occur. For example, the travels of the Apostle Paul. Correlation between the texts and archaeological data correlates at the 99.9% confidence level.
This does not proove the Christian faith to be true. But it makes Christian faith VIABLE.
IF NO archaelogical data correlated to Acts, then the Atheist viewpoint that Jesus is a myth would be viable.
To truly start at the beginning of this evidence, the laws of thermodynamics verify the universe will end in cold/heat death. Natural words are not able to sustain themselves.
The source of the universe cannot be subject to the laws of thermodynamics.
Therefore, it is logical that the source is above natural law. Laws of Thermodynamics support that the source must be above natural law, therefore, Supernatural.
This does not proove that God exists. But it is logical to ask "NEXT THREAD"
It is logical to ask, "Since the laws of thermodynamics support that a natural source of the universe is unlikely, should humans expect to OBSERVE supernatural events in this universe?"
Therefore, the atheist worldview is not very credible.
When people observe supernatural events, there is scientific foundation in the laws of thermodynamics that support their observations are credible.
If you attempt to photograph lightning with a camera, the probability of snapping a photo of lightning is very low.
The same is true of supernatural events. It is highly improbable that such events can be photographed. That does not mean they do not occur as Atheists assume.
On this site, I have discussed the observation of a bird squawking incessantly and beating its wings to distract from teaching the Bible. All I hear is emotional *?% from atheists.
What is the difference between photographing lightning versus spiritual events?
Time between the events is a big factor.
Being at the right place at the right time would be relevant to both lightning and spiritual events. If you want to observe, you have to be in the right place. THINK ABOUT IT.
Atheists assume they are correct, In reality, you haven't a clue.
@solinvictus39 People did write about Jesus. There are the accepted gospels and later false gospels that write of Jesus. Just because they are the Bible you choose to be biased and ignore what is written?
The video infers this question, "Is the book of Acts credible?"
Archaeologists and scholars find a direct correlation to the texts, making it viable. In contrast, the book of Mormon storyline has no evidence to date. Therefore, we logically conclude the BOM is fiction. not so with the Bible
@99minerkc Actually, there are scholarly books and I have documented them. There are also scholarly videos that have the viewpoint of those who conclude that Christian faith is viable. The opposing viewpoint has no evidence to verify that Jesus did not exist or that Christian faith is based on myth.
An good example of a myth based faith is the book of Mormon BOM. No archaelogical evidence has been found. DNA tests verify the BOM is false. Claims in the BOM supports Indians have Jewish blood.
I don't think you can expect any evidence there is none.
This vid has no actual archeological evidence supporting the biblical myths.
Only support of historical characters existence, these are mutually exclusive but I don't think the author has a clue. Just bang on with the Rhetoric.
@99minerkc I referenced a scholarly book. Will you take time to study that book?
Or will your assumptions continue to lead your astray?
The book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History.
Overall, there are more than 300 physical items that correlate to the texts of Acts at the 99.9% confidence level. To take your viewpoint requires basing your views at 0.01% confidence level.
Objective evidence is available for scholars to study, like it or not.
@TwoAngelsVision Objective evidence? What is objective evidence ie who determines that it's objective? Are you saying that "empirical" evidence is available to scholars, is so, what makes you think I wouldn't like it? LOOK, I AM SIMPLY LOOKING FOR EMPIRICAL(SCIENTIFIC)evidence of supporting that Jesus rose from the death and talked to humans before ascending to heaven! I don't doubt his existence and death! So far NOBODY on planet earth has come up with scientific(empirical)evidence(cont)
(cont here)to support such an event! I do believe that if he existed, Jesus Christ died and stayed dead! IF YOU HAVE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that jesus rose again, yes, I will take time to read it!!
Laws of Thermodynamics support that the universe must have a non-natural source. If the Atheist worldview is correct, only the natural world exists.
But the universe is destined for cold death or hot death. The universe cannot sustain itself. How did it begin?
The source of the universe cannot be controlled or subject to the laws of thermodynamics. Therefore, Source is above natural law. We deduce the source must be SUPERNATURAL.
This is so far beyond STUPID, I'm not even going to waste my time.
IveHearted1 1 day ago
I condemn false prophets, I condemn the effort to take away the power of rational decision, to drain people of their free will - and a hell of a lot of money in the bargain. Religions vary in their degree of idiocy, but I reject them all. For most people, religion is nothing more than a substitute for a malfunctioning brain.
Gene Roddenberry
Religion is not merely the opium of the masses, it's the cyanide.
Tom Robbins
VideoAudioDisco09 1 month ago
To sum up:
1. The cosmos is a gigantic flywheel making 10,000 revolutions a minute.
2. Man is a sick fly taking a dizzy ride on it.
3. Religion is the theory that the wheel was designed and set spinning to give him a ride.
Henry Mencken
The fact that a believer is happier than a skeptic is no more to the point than the fact that a drunken man is happier than a sober one. The happiness of credulity is a cheap and dangerous quality.
Bernard Shaw
VideoAudioDisco09 1 month ago
Atheism is essentially based on your inability to explain how the universe came to be and is supposedly scientific? You claim atheists have debunked the laws of thermodynamics?
Laws of thermodynamics have never been refuted. Entropy steadily increases with every chemical reaction.
Science and religion go together and thermodynamics strongly infer the source of the universe will not be controlled by the laws of thermodynamics. (strongly infers the source is eternal). You get an F in logic
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
I gave you the definition.
Atheism is the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.
Now the seperate issue of science, have you considered entropic effect of life itself. biological life we know of is dependent on the fact that our planet is in a "border" condition allowing the conversion of massive amounts of ordered solar energy being vented into entropic heat. In terms of the second law, biological life is an inconsequential side effect.
VideoAudioDisco09 1 month ago
@TwoAngelsVision
Atheism is essentially based on your inability to explain how the universe.
You are so uninformed, religion rose specifically to explain the unknown.
Considering what was unknown at the time you are left with some real problems to explain. I guess thats why we have appologetics.
Explain thermodynamics in miricles please, I would love to hear that one.
VideoAudioDisco09 1 month ago
Try and get the basics right like what is Atheism.
"Atheism is, in a broad sense, the rejection of belief in the existence of deities.[1] In a narrower sense, atheism is specifically the position that there are no deities.[2][3] Most inclusively, atheism is simply the absence of belief that any deities exist"
Thats it nothing more or less. So blahing on about science etc has nothing to do with Atheism as such. Ironically using science is what debunks the magic in the bible and its invention
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
To all your responses and wild claims.
No one knows how the universe began but it was not magic.
Seriously Atheist assumptions, you mean scientific.
The thermodynamics crap you peddle is long debunked.
Science does not explain everything, Religion explains nothing but mans gullibility.
Daniels prophecy was not about Jesus. Well accepted by scholars.
Been to Nazareth, Try Disneyland next you can see the actual home of Mickey mouse.
Nothing but special pleading and not knowing. FAIL
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 For every "natural" chemical reaction, entropy increases, ALWAYS. No one has debunked the laws of thermodynamics. Atheist viewpoint is obviously not based on science. You also claim you don't have to explain. Really?
Brainless responses are all I have seen in your emotion filled position.
Laws of thermo require us to logical ask, "SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERVE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS OR SPIRITUAL BEINGS IN THIS UNIVERSE?"
You have only shown emotion in your repsonse. HMMMMM!
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
Saul Of tarsus... aka PAUL, never MET jesus nor claimed to meet jesus, so you fallacial arguement that Saul wouldn't have been fooled by a lookalike (which is a bad arguement anyway, he didnt have a look alike) because Paul never saw him in the first place. MOOT POINT. FAULTY LOGIC. Jesus is a composite character. You are superstitious and silly. Why do atheists know your own religion better than you. Drop faith and get a hooker.
riotseedco 2 months ago
@riotseedco
Based on Laws of thermodynamics, the universe is not able to sustain itself.No Atheist has ever explained how the universe was created based on the presupposition that only the natural world exists, even though scientific data verifies all natural things degrade
Logic requires we ask, "SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERVE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS IN THIS UNIVERSE?
Correlation between Texts in Acts and archaeological evidence at the 99.9 confidence level refutes your opinion. Got DATA?
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision - Well it's easy enough to make a youtube video and claim you have data, I'd like to see what 'credible' scientists who were not biased by your particular faith had to say about such findings. As for your thermodynamics argument, why don't you try talking to a physicist or astrophysicist, or both, because it seems wrong somehow. Oh I know, you said the universe can't sustain itself because of thermodynamics? FALSE. .. more
UPplRSick 1 month ago
@TwoAngelsVision - Since the laws of thermodynamics were based on observation and empirical evidence, meaning they DESCRIBE THE UNIVERSE, these laws could not describe a universe that would be unable to sustain itself. If the universe were unable to sustain itself, these 'laws' wouldn't exist. Your logic is completely faulty and there is nothing in thermodynamics that says a god is required to sustain the universe. That is your faulty interpretation. ...MORE
UPplRSick 1 month ago
@riotseedco Based on the correlation between Acts and archaeological data at the 99.9% confidence level, your viewpoint (baseless opinion) has only 0.01% confidence level.
How can a person know there is a spiritual reality?
Jesus said, "Seek and you will find!"
People with intellect search and have found. We have experienced the presence of God despite your falacious assumptions about ultimate reality. Archaeological data provides a solid foundation for those experiences. You have 0 data
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@riotseedco Actually, the presentation is for Muslims since the quran claims that Jesus had a look alike. Archaeological evidence from 1972, analyzed by a German scholar verifies the quran is the product of human manipulation.
search youtube "koran 70 years and puin" to find, only 3 minutes.
The hadith reveal that the qur'an under Caliph Uthman created a single quran version, then legislated that all non-conforming qur'ans be burned with fire. Archaeological finds verify the truth.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
# Joshua ben Ananias (Ananius) was known for prophecy (e.g., destruction of the Temple) and preached the “end of times” until his death at Roman hands in 68/69 A.D.
# Joshua ben Saphat was a Galilean who led the Zealot revolt in Tiberias. Just before the city fell to Vespasian’s Legionnaires he fled north to Tarichea on the Sea of Galilee.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Dead Sea scrolls verify that Jewish people living at that time accepted Daniel as a prophet. Since Daniel's prophecy of the 70 weeks predicts the destruction of Jerusalem and the Zealots had the book of Daniel, your viewpoint is essential more skewing of reality.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
# Joshua ben Stada was a Nazorean in 80 BC, who studied under a famous religious man, formed his own group, had disciples named Matthew and Thaddeus, was betrayed and killed at Passover. from Galilee , mother’s name was Mary.
# Joshua ben Sirach, the reputed author of the Book of Sirach (part of the Old Testament Apocrypha), who combined Jewish “wisdom” literature with Homeric-style heroes.
# Joshua ben Gamala rebel and “peace activist” who was put to death during the first Jewish rebellion.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
I am an atheist i do not have to explain anything, I in essence don’t have a view.
Atheism is a rejection of any of the God hypotheses proposed by different peoples.
It is up to you to provide proof or evidence for your claims, which you cannot. You just regurgitate christian apologetics and a raft of argument fallacies.
1000 year s ago you would be arguing I can not explain where lightning comes from.
Now we’re getting down to the last little gaps for your god to hide in aren’t we. FAIL
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
Since you truly don't have a foundation based on your false assumption that you don't have to explain how the universe began in light of the fact that all natural things decay, you obviously don't have a credible foundation.
The logical question to ask based on the laws of thermo is required: SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERVE SUPERNATURAL EVENTS OR SPIRITUAL BEINGS IN THIS UNIVERSE?
I have already presented evidence where more than 1 person observed the effects of a spiritual being.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 It is your assumption that science explains everything. Truth is "Science and religion elucidate each other"
You have not even attempted to explain how a natural world that decays can create another universe. Again, your BELIEF that you don't have to explain explicitly shows Atheism is unintelligible. You live life based on your false assumptions.
Christians at the same time and place observed the effects of a spiritual being, which answers the question i posed earlier!
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Finally, your belief that brain studies account for spiritual experiences is shown to be another false assumption based on the fact that people observed the effects of a spiritual being at work as a deceiver. This is objective evidence for people who witnessed that event.
If you want to go down that path, then you MUST EXPLAIN "how a decaying natural universe can create another universe. The only known / observed universe can not even sustain itself.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
As this twit is so keen on Archeological evidence, I suppose he has seen the evidence that Nazareth never exsisted when Jesus was alive. Bet he never mentions that.
Sad they have so little and it gets less and less, it is like watching a dog chase its tale, you think they will get warn out eventually. The rest of the world moves on.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 I have been in Nazareth and was on the place where people opposed to Jesus would have pushed him from a cliff (ref: Luke 4:14-30). Very credible.
You only base your false worldview on the opinions of Atheist authors. Recent archaeological finds verify Nazareth was a small town at the time of Jesus. You really don't have anything to stand upon with your quote from another Atheist. Do more research.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
I see when you are not regurgitating empty Apologetic rhetoric, full of futile attempts at refuting anything that questions your faith, like truth and reality. You use fallacies with false or questionable presupposition it is an utter failure. It is not worth demolishing each one as they are self defeating anyway.
Yet you find problems with the Qur'an which is based on the same framework as the bible and its “revelation”.
The failure of the Quran is just as the failure of the Bible.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
Based on your inability to logically answer how the universe began based on the laws of thermodynamics, I begin to understand that your regurgitation of Atheist propaganda is normal. You cannot answer the question.
Biased Atheist minds are not able to answer the scientific question. You choose to ignore it and provide no supporting evidence for your view. The laws of thermodynamics and the WMAP data verify that you are simply biased and not interested in finding truth.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
No one knows how the universe begun, how wouls I therefore know.
However we know there was a sudden expansion of space-time.
The laws of thermodynamics are all well intact and none broken.
Do not confuse Atheism with Science they are not the same. Many Atheists have no scientific knowledge at all, don't need it BS is BS don't need science to seee that.
However when scintific claims are made it is used to debunk the lies.
You ever provide proof of God?
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
You still have not explained how the universe began based on Atheist assumptions that are contrary to scientific fact.
Fact 1: All natural things decay and will die cold death
Fact 2: If all that exists is natural, how can the universe begin based on fact 1?
Science and religion go together, especially laws of thermodynamics that verify the Atheist world view cannot account for the universe.
You even admit you don't know!
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
I am working on a science-religion interface webpage. It will begin with scientific fact. It will logically compare different religions and show how it is feasible to differentiate what religions are proven to be false as compared to religions that are viable.
If you read what Atheists promote as truth based on science, it becomes apparent that they are unintelligble on spiritual issues or how science relates to the spiritual. I leave their posts as examples of what is true ignorance.
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision I don't know that Daniel claimed Gabriel as his source. The reason that the Qur'an does not shine is that it is not a revelation from God through Gabriel. It is internally inconsistent, externally inconsistent, and generally unreliable.
matrixlone 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision The earliest manuscripts date more than two centuries after the supposed original and the people who were said to have memorized the sayings of Muhammad died in a war long before anything was written down. There is no reason that they could not have written it down during Muhammad's life. I find the Qur'an to be unreliable in many facets.
LNC
matrixlone 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
I am completely ignorant of the sprit so please tell me,
What is a spirit, where is it located, what does it look like, does it have any effect in the real world. Love to know because otherwise I have no idea what you are talking about...again.
Or are you just a troll, as I see all of what you claim has been debunked and a little research on your part would enlighten you to this.
VideoAudioDisco09 2 months ago
A bell curve of people with varying beliefs would have atheists in one of the tails of the distribution. ON the opposing tail would be those who KNOW God, and many would classify them as mystics.
Atheists attempt to convince people based on their lack of spiritual knowledge. Essentially, it is a joke to listen to an atheist, who claims to know the spiritual truth but has no idea.
Mystics or Spirit-filled humans are knowledgeable on the subject. Listen to those who know truth!
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
If you take the time to study and truly investigate, you will find there is a spiritual reality. I studied in-depth for decades. Then God anointed me with a deep personal relationship. God is awesome.
Jesus is the real deal.
I had an out of body experience while fully awake. And the Lord spoke to me about the book of Revelation. I felt my soul without a NDE.
A religion without supernatural events is not the source. Only the Bible is filled with miracles. Think about it.
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
Atheist worldview is based on poor assumptions, like it or not.
No Atheist has answered how a natural universe can be created if all that exists is natural.
Hubble Space Telescope verifies the universe was created. Only 1 universe is observed.
Accelerated expansion of universe destroys oscillating universe.
Laws of Thermo supports that the supernatural is required.
Expect to observe the supernatural, like it or not.
I am an observer along with others at the same time and location
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
Multitudes of people know that God exists.
Attempts to make spiritual experiences appear to be false do not answer some of these experiences.
I was in a Bible study of Acts 16:16-19 fortuneteller. I taught that true psychics are spiritually possessed. A psychic was in the Bible study that night and the demon came out. Five people witness the being as it attempted to distract from the teaching. It made a bird squawk loudly and flap its wings.
Witnesses calculates to 97.5% confidence level.
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
This is not agaisnt the 9th commandment(the video)?
Lie is a sin.
There is no archeological proof that Jesus ever existed.
LowresTV 3 months ago
@LowresTV
In reality, the video does not state "PROVE". It is apparent that you are not oriented to details of what is being stated. Very simply, there are archaelogical finds that correlate to biblical texts. And this evidence makes the Christian faith viable. In contrast, the book of Mormon has not archaelogical findings. Therefore, it is based on fiction. The biblical word view is credible based on archaeological data and the fact that people can know God personally. God is FACT!
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision You are righ about the mormons. Is clearly man made. But for me the Christianity is also "man made" howvwver there are some posiive aspects on it. But my opinion, religion or similar "spiritual" expressions are a result of a process in wicbr men, having already reached good organized society , created religion. iT is interesthing because was out first attempt to explain the world. But god is not a fact. YOU may beliece in it, based in some sort of auto created rules.
LowresTV 3 months ago
@LowresTV If Jesus were a myth, then no archaeological evidence would be found. And we would be in agreement. However, the data brings your worldview into question. Also, no Atheist has explained how the universe is created if all that exists is natural based on laws of thermodynamics. Science, physical evidence, logic, and ultimately - personal experiences with God, bring the Atheist worldview into question. Not just subjective experiences since I have witnessed with others the same event.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision Again...what archeological finds are tou talking about? As long as I know,there is NO PHYSICAL EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER aBOUT Jesus. Christ is not a name, is a title. May not refer to Jesus.
LowresTV 2 months ago
If you really want to debunk the use of archaeological data, I suggest you study Colin Hemer's, The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History.There are 162 items cited on pages 109-158.
Earlist archaeological reference to Jesus in general is ignored. A burial cave with a coin dated to AD 42 in which was found the ossuary of Alexander, the son of Simon of Cyrene. Some of the ossuaries have crosses inscribed on them. Another cave has Yeshua inscribed on ossuaries, citing Jesus' name.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
Here is a reference: "The Earliest Records of Christianity" by E.L. Sukenik, written in 1947 about discoveries ~ 1942 cave with such records.
Includes a house church at Pompei, Italy, buried by volcano in August AD 79 with a preserved cross. Review of this find reminds me of similar settings you find in small Christian churches around the world.
That find supports Paul traveled the roads as described in the book of Acts, which I have calculated to be at the 99.9% CL based on data.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision Thanks...keep up your good works!!! I'm so very tired of the un-researched new-age atheists with their proven wrong zeitgeist garbage & any & all conspiracy theory junk, as well as the brainwashed glazed eyed Muslims repeating the lies & historically wrong twists that they have been taught like clones. Sad & sick.
GoodyBob 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision Archeological finds...name one, recognized by real archeologists.
LowresTV 2 months ago
@LowresTV I have several in the video. However, unless an Archaeologist is an Atheist or Minialist, you probably simply choose to ignore the finding. For example, Caiaphas ossuary is accepted as real. There were no issues with its finding in 1990. It is ornate. And the body remains inside fit the person.
Pontius Pilate inscription is accepted as real. Only recently have I found biased Atheist archaeologist question it. It only shows bias.
In Hemer's book, there are 163 items listed.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@LowresTV To have a correlation to the book of Acts, the item must correlate to the texts in the book of Acts. All 163 fit that criteria. And the finds are varied and are accepted by all archaeologists. It is an in-depth study by a true scholar. The list is on pages 109 - 158 in Hemer's book, "The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History". Ignoring all biases, the author concludes the book of Acts was written about AD 62, based on data, not opinion or bias.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
What a ridiculous Narration!!! Jesus was a historical Figure!!! He was crucified and his Name was Yehoshua or Yashua! This Dude here is another fanatical Christian trying to prove stuff that simply cannot be proven. The Ossuaries are no proof for anything connected with Jesus!
BluesHarp60 3 months ago
Archaeological evidence correlates to biblical texts, making Christian faith viable.
No Atheist has been able to answer how universe came to be, based the laws of thermodynamics. IF all that existed were natural, than the source is also natural. But nature only degrades to lower levels. If the source is natural and degrades, how can the universe begin?
Therefore, "Should we expect to observe supernatural events or spiritual beings?"
Many have observed, despite your ignorance.
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
@BluesHarp60 Right.
LowresTV 2 months ago
Eyewitnesses of Superman & Godzilla battle verified by Archaeological Evidence.
Just as credible.
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 An extremely biased and ill conceived comment since there really is no archaeological evidence for you supposed selected subject. Biased minds are really not interested in finding ultimate reality. Just promoting your mindless viewpoint in this case.
To date, no Atheist as explained how the universe was created (WMAP data) based on the laws of thermodynamics. If all that exists is the natural world and all natural things decay, how could the universe begin?
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
No people who are dumb make up rubbish to fill the gaps.
TwoAngelsVision-your English "sucks" please read your stupid comments. What natural laws are you talking about?
GIVE ME SOLD PROOF that you have actually seen "god" in your home.
NO PROOF=no "god", that's an easy answer.
You sound like a dumb ass, quoting silly linductions based upon theories that are so out of this world, that I believe Aliens would come down to Earth before any "god", and then where is your theory.
MichaelJordon1 9 months ago
Atheists support their viewpoint with the "make believe" gap (as opposed to God of the gaps). Blind faith to be a atheist.
For example, thermodynamics data shows the universe can't sustain itself. IF only natural laws apply, then our universe could not birth another universe. Same applies to the source of our universe. The source of the universe cannot be controlled by laws of decay. The source must be above natural law. Therefore, supernatural is a logical induction based on nature.
TwoAngelsVision 9 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
Please Atheists don't support a veiw point and many have different view on many things.
They simple do not subscribe to any "faith" or deity.
-no evidence or credible reason to accept any magic filled story
-continued debunking of authorship
-the ability to read the bible themselves, thus exposing hypocracy, contradiction and error. Showing a composite document that has evolved based on theological doctrine.
-the explaining of natural events by peer reviewed science
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 and i'm an theist who wonders why they watched this video. lol
hippiefreak66 8 months ago
@hippiefreak66
Combatting. Igorance, lies, The risk of theocractic dictatorship.
Understanding how misinformation is proliferated to convince the gulible.
Of Course -- when good people do nothing evil will prosper. Religion is a wolf in a lambs skin and definately Evil.
Thats Why.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 this is why i go straight to testimonial evidence of christ showing personal revelations to his followers exactly the way the father in the bible speaks i have some in my playlist as well
matrixlone 8 months ago
@matrixlone
Yes but "testimonial evidence " is rife accross all religions, all religions have ultimate proof they are the right one. Lookin from outside they can not all be right, even within religion there are differing sects which can not all be right. When it comes to "Miricles" no statistical difference between religions or non belief.
So you really go looking for specific support for your belief, no matter what you believe you will always find some "Testomonial" support.
-More-
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 mkay how much time do you actually spend on studying the other religions and theyre gods? and can you tell me the differences in each one and which other god gives theyre prophets dreams and visions and when they die actually show them secret things?
matrixlone 8 months ago
@matrixlone
I don't spen enough time studying other religions but I do.
They are structured differenctly but the after death experience is exactly what they expect.
Have you bothered researching it.?
Just look up after death experience and change the religion at the end. they all have stories.
When traumatised or Oxygen starved the brain does what it does.
If you electro stimulate an area of the brain you can induce a religious vision, what does that tell you.
Drugs work to - delusion.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 give me your sources please
matrixlone 8 months ago
@matrixlone
It is in the brain. Sources ? Do you care won't you just denigh the evidence.
It is no secret there is plenty of experiments, research and studies that indicate a neurological mechinism for spirituality just look them up and read.
-Studies have clearly shown a relationship between religious experience and temporal lobe epilepsy.
-Magnetic field test induced an experience in over 80% of test subjects.
-Magic Mushrooms also.
-Direct stimulation during surgery also.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 no not all im very open to learning more so long as i have time to know more about my god and yes my evidence is very realiable i am familiar with my god on a personal level try to understand that please no drugs needed alright no offense
matrixlone 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Your viewpoint is nixed by groups of observers of spiritual/supernatural events. If you're intellectually honest, you have to dig deeper rather than simply positing your biased viewpoint with misinformation.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
What occurs at death is only 1 reason for religion. More relevant, people experience God today and sometimes there are many people present that observe an event. This makes the event objective evidence among those present. I have been in groups of people (eg 5 people) that witnessed spiritual beings at work. In this case, a psychic was in the Bible study and the demonic being caused a bird to squawk incessantly to distract from the teaching, which came from Acts 16:16-19. psychics are possessed.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@matrixlone I have spent hundred of hours studying Islam. specifically, the Book of Daniel and the Qur'an based on the fact that each book claims to have the same source, the Archangel Gabriel. IF the source is the same spiritual being, then both books should have the same position. But, they are diametrically opposed views, meaning one is a deceiver and the other is potentially credible.
I have scientifically dated the 70 weeks prophecy. Daniel shines but the Qur'an does not. Why?
TwoAngelsVision 3 months ago
@matrixlone
Unfortunately Neuro-Science is slowley uncovering the sources of these hallucination and we know prayer does not work. The same group hysteria is used in Rock concerts, big sales conventions and was used at the nuremberg rally y Hitler. Recent MIR showed someone speaking in toungs showed reduced activity in the frontal lobe where basically reality is processed, he was quite sure he was not in control he was right but it was not god.
The bible was invented and is not a source.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 oh god mkay look up angelica zambrano because what she saw was no dream or vision because she was actually dead and before she died god confirmed to her when she would die so she can see the things she saw and theres others also i dont hear anything about santa claus walking them through hell and heaven also some didnt even believe in christ or god dont act like i have to be some kinda expert to know how god works you can read the book of daniel nice try though
matrixlone 8 months ago
@matrixlone
You don't buy this do you? There are as many Hoax threads. That creates some very amusing questions. many people have this experience, many do not. Means nothing.
Children who died and recovered have reported being in hell with monsters that look like Pokemon creatures.
Hindus would see Vishnu
Some say nothing
Is it true she starved herself for a time before the loss of reallity.
Look up Cargo-Cults give insite to humans wish to believe and cultural indoctrination.
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 prove to me shes a hoax and ill admit i was wrong
matrixlone 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Why haven't you explained how the universe came to be if all that exists is natural based on the laws of thermodynamics. All natural things are decaying. So if all that exists is natural, then no universe could be created.
For the universe to exist, the source will not be subject to natural law. The source must be ABOVE natural law (therefore - supernatural). The inference is strong and requires us to ask, Should we observe supernatural events in this universe?
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@hippiefreak66 Because there is evidence that shows the Christian faith to be viable. For example, the book of Mormon storyline has no archaeological finds. Therefore, it is logical to conclude it is fiction. Not so with the Biblical storyline with suffcient correlating evidence to conclude that the mission trips in the book of Acts did occur at the 99.9% confidence level. That means you have only 0.01% confidence in your biased statement. Not very credible at 0.01% CL.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
The source of the universe cannot be controlled by laws of decay. The source must be above natural law. Therefore, supernatural is a logical induction based on nature.
Must it..........
Thats like saying a cat is a mouse because it has a tail and whiskers - a logical induction based on nature.
Do you ever think or are just so embattled defending the indefencable against the rising tide of reality and knowledge. Sigh.........
VideoAudioDisco09 8 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Truth is, your cat mouse analogy simply ignores the fact that all things decay. The WMAP data establishes the universe was created 13.8 billion years ago. And all stars are decaying. Given time, all stars will burn out. Since you are an Atheist and ASSUME that only the natural world is reality, please explain how only the natural world (only capable of decay and degradation), can create a universe?
Can you only give a pathetic - irrelevant analogy?
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09
Your answer is based on circular reasoning. You have failed to explain how the universe began if all that exists is natural & thermodynamic laws verify all natural things degrade.
Intellectually honest people conclude that the Atheist worldview is non-credible.
Logically, the source would not be decaying. Moreover, it is logical & necessary to ask, "SHOULD WE EXPECT TO OBSERV SUPERNATURAL OR SPIRITUAL EVENTS IN THIS UNIVERSE?"
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
TwoAngelsVision-please tell me where to find the so called evidence you speak about. You talk about Archaeological Evidence-from where did this come?
Archaeological Evidence is hard factual evidence, a piece of bone, a ruin, a plate, or drawings. Not some book that has been "doctored" and translated so many times that there can be no truth. How can you make such false statements, the Koran is just part of a religion, who says it ain't true.
MichaelJordon1 9 months ago
Actually, I wonder if you viewed the videos. Archaeological data is documented extensively in multitudes of books. I used archaeological data from Dr. Colin Hemer that shows a correlation between the discoveries and the book of Acts at the 99.9% confidence level.
Has the Bible been changed?
Scholars have detailed analysis and written books that supports the Christian faith is on solid ground. The NT is ~99.5% accurate with no theological viewpoint in question.
TwoAngelsVision 9 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
i don't know where you get this stuff but it is not from credible authors and research.
I can see that with 99.999999% accuracy.
I do agree a good part of the bible has some truth, after all places exsisted most characters exsisted and it was around these things the myths, magic and new religion was born, based on a jew who had no intention of creating a new religion (if jesus even exsisted-its in question) but the story was hijacked, turned into a roman myth and here we are.
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
I calculated based on data from a scholarly book. I reviewed the data 5 times in-depth. The calculation is based on the assumption that the Bible is false and therefore, we should find 0 evidence to support it. The calculation uses the Chi-square test of independence from the worldview that we should not find even 1 item to support the texts. The correlation at the 99.9% confidence level is based on 162 correlations to 165 issues. This verifies Paul traveled the roads as a missionary.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
wayinoutreach-reading through your personnel comments regarding my intelligence only confirms that you have NO-EVIDENCE that Jesus or God exists.
I asked ANYONE if they had proof that Jesus or God existed, you confirmed that the Catholic church used PAGAN festivals to "gain" more people to their religion.
Please don't insult my intelligence with your brain-washed theories.
People believe in "gods" because they are simple minded, scared of what might happen if they go against the religion.
MichaelJordon1 9 months ago
This guy talking is a fool!
All christainity is a modification of religions, Easter is a PAGAN festival, so is CHRISTMAS.
There is no hard evidence that the bilbe of Jesus or God exist! The is FACT!!!
So to say the Koran is wrong is just another stupid statement, if there is a god, WE make him in our image!
UNLESS you have ever seen these alledged people stop your LIES!!!
MichaelJordon1 9 months ago
@MichaelJordon1 You sure have!! That is why everyone is their own god, everyones' moral code is correct because it's theirs & they are god & it's a real god eat god world out there. Do you know how foolish you sound. Yes, the Roman Catholic church set those holidays over pagan festivals to try to draw more people to the church as opposed to the festivals. It does provide fools like you who don't think we know some material to make a "talking ass" of yourself!!!
wayinoutreach 9 months ago
We agree about pagan beliefs were later inculcated by the Catholic church. However, God is FACT based on Laws of Thermodynamics, WMAP data verifies the universe had a beginning, accelerating expansion of the universe shows the oscillating (eternal) universe is false, and ultimately that people know God exists as revelation is given. The proof is having a relationship with God. Your bias keeps you from finding reality.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
Thats not proof retard. Eyewitnesses arent eyewitnesses if they didnt exist. There is absolutly no proof that there was a jesus christ. There is no proof that there is a god, there is no proof that any religion is real. If you think so you need to look up the definition of proof. Just because someone wrote down that they saw something doesnt mean they actually saw it. I can say I had brunch with an alagator and fucked a monkey, doesnt make it true.
WhatWeAllLove 9 months ago
I DONT SEE WHY IGNORANT PEOPLE HAVE TO BE RIGHT ALL THE TIME! "HAH I FOUND AN OLD ASS ROCK AND JEWELERY HOLDER, THEREFORE JESUS IS REAL! FUCK YOUR MUSLIM FRIENDS!"
Nahhhh broseph, see things like that dont fly in my airspace. When your ass tells me what is right and wrong and whos feelings i should hurt, then fuck you. This video right here.., what your basically doing is trying to shove christianity down our throats with your so called "Evidence" and thats a sin in itself. You know what i thi
DCNEPTUNE 10 months ago
Sir, what this video does is show the disconnect between what the quran claims about Jesus in contrast with the NT. This is the great disconnect between the two faiths. Archaeological evidence supports the NT but not even 1 archaeological item has been uncovered to support the claims in the quran. Therefore, blind faith required to believe the quran. That is the fact.
Nobody shoves Christian faith down a Muslims throat.
This is not proof. It is evidence.
TwoAngelsVision 9 months ago
@DCNEPTUNE Thanks for sharing your biased viewpoint since you have no data to support it. Archaelogical evidence supports that both Muhammad and Jesus existed. The disconnect is that the Koran proclaims that Jesus did NOT die on the cross. But no archaeological evidence has been uncovered to support that viewpoint. In contrast, scholars have studied the evidence and verified it. The calculations are correct based on the scholarly book referenced in the video.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
You, sir, are a tool.
ChaosTheorite 11 months ago
Oh look Jerusalem is mentioned a biblical place the story must be true.
HA HA HA, New York exists therefore Superman is real, Japan is a real place so Godzilla is true. Wake Up.
What archeological evidence, I have never seen any and I look very hard.
There is a lot of nonsensical claims that have been debunked and there are various conclusions that have been drawn that a 7 year old can tell are not close to logical or supported in any way.
If Christians believe in truth why do the lie.
VideoAudioDisco09 11 months ago
Since there are over 160 items that correlate to the story line in the books, we calculate that the evidence supports that the Apostle Paul traveled the roads as written in the book of Acts @ 99.9% confidence level. IF no correlation exists (text and to archaeological discoveries), then we would coclude that the book of Acts is fictional.
A good example of a "holy book" that is fiction based is the book of Mormon. Not even 1 archaeological item has been found to support the storyline.
TwoAngelsVision 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Well you got it right about Jerusalem and many other sites verified by scholars and archaeologists. But the evidence is more than the existence of the cities, which includes titles of governing people, practice of Roman law, presence of synagogues in specific cities and not in others etc (a large list of items).
In contrast, the book of Mormon has no evidence for even 1 city, the evidence of horses prior to Christopher Columbus. So BOM is verified to be fiction.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
The Bible is not a historical source!
It is a fictional story book.
saul of tarsus in the bible never met jesus in person.
There is NO Archeological evidence that supports Christianity.
If you want to go with the story as written, Caiaphas was to see Jesus (actually the correct translation is "Joshua") return real soon in person. He lived and died and "Jesus" never returned. Christians ignore the bible and say a time is not given, when it clearly is 'a false prophet at best.
VideoAudioDisco09 11 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Try watching(if you dare) Archeology: Digging for the Truth of the Bible. It turned an Atheist to a believer.
There is all kinds of archeological evidence. But for those who will not believe under any circumstances, Jesus showing you the holes in his hands & his feet would not be enough. Those are truly blind. As Jesus said "None are so blind as those who WILL NOT SEE". OPEN MINDED!! Yeah right!!
We don't ignore 1 tittle of the Bible. Jesus Saves!!!
wayinoutreach 9 months ago
@wayinoutreach I have made an effort but 20min was all I could take. As expected NOTHING but, I think or in my opinion by Don Patton who questionably has a Geology degree and an MA in something PHD is a secret as I and apparently others can not find anything. Polite Enquiries to the relevant creationist cult clubs has met with silence. He quotes Wyatt who is not recognised by any archeological body and is in fact considered a joke he is either a con man or certifiably insane. Nothing again.
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Sorry, what have you been trying? I can't stay on this thing all the time. REFRESH!!
wayinoutreach 9 months ago
@wayinoutreach
Well he is long dead and gone so who cares.
The holes would not be in his hands at all, and I think you know that.
What witness outside the bible story is there? Even then I accept he was executed for sidition by the Romans.
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Actually, He is very much alive & He sits at the right hand of God. That's the beauty of it all. And He did all that for us!
And I am going to let you research that all on your own if you are really curious. You never know, you may discover more than you thought & you might even gain some faith. I love researching the Bible, from all angles & science & archeology have helped so much. Even Hubble helps. Check out the Hebrew Mazzaroth. I find that facinating & God did it!!!
wayinoutreach 9 months ago
When archaeological items correlate to biblical stories, then the Bible becomes a viable faith.
In regards to the idea that Jesus said he would return in 1 generation, please explain Luke 21:20-24. The final verse takes in the destruction of Jerusalem in AD70 and is fulfilled when the Jewish people gained control of Jerusalem on June 7, 1967. Verse 24b takes in 1897 years for that specific prophecy.
Please take the time to actually read and THINK about those 4 verses before reponding.
TwoAngelsVision 9 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
Viable faith remember Faith is belief without evidence. Which by the way by its very definition atheism can not be a faith. In fact atheism is all about no faith, no belief in deities, like you, I just go one more.
You should read 21:all of it. Failed prediction and an address to the currently living on what to expect and at 32: 32 “Truly I tell you, THIS GENERATION will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. DO I NEED EXPLAIN - READ IT
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Your definition of faith is biased.
What is faith to people who observe spiritual events?
For example, if you were Matthew the tax collector, who witnessed miracles, Jesus' death and resurrection, then how do you define faith for Matthew, the witness?
Or since I have observed the evidence of spiritual beings at work with 4 other people, how do you define faith for people that witness supernatural events?
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision
Luke - the author is simply unknown
Most modern critical scholarship concludes that Luke used the Gospel of Mark for his chronology and a hypothetical sayings source Q document for many of Jesus' teachings. Luke may also have drawn from independent written records. Not a witness.
VideoAudioDisco09 9 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Luke wrote the book of Acts as an observer. Hemer's scholarly work shows archaeological data correlating to the texts at the 99.9% confidence level.
Luke's gospel 1:1-3 shows that Luke interviewed the original eyewitnesses. This is supported in the book of Acts since Luke went to Jerusalem with Paul (99.9% confidence level in that trip based on data). Paul knew Peter and James, the brother of Jesus. Archaeological data correlates to the texts.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@TwoAngelsVision Very good....wow there are some real wierdos commenting. Sad. DCNeptune needs a saviour like Jesus more than most. His Mohammed was a murdering pedophile with 13 wives. Not a prophet. Not even one Muslim can agree with what he really said as there was NO evidence, just what was written about Muhammed 5 generations later!
GoodyBob 7 months ago
@GoodyBob Thanks for your support. I find interesting that Atheist bias blinds them to the point that they ignore data. The scientific world view is based on data. No Atheist has answered how the universe can begin if all that exists is the natural world. And the fact that all natural things decay (laws of thermo). For this viewpoint, I have only witnessed unintelligible answers. No thought whatsoever! It is credible that we will observe supernatural events in this universe. I have witnessed it
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 The book of Acts is a storyline. Is it true or false?
Archaeological evidence found by archaeologist and investigated by scholars shows a direct correlation to the texts at the 99.9% confidence level.
Are you so biased that you choose to ignore actual data?
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
It's all true I waz fucking there what a fucking blast we all got pissed and had sing song
mickkky77 11 months ago
Listening to the sound of the narrator's voice, I'm half expecting him to start talking about manbearpig at any moment.
TheChohr 1 year ago 4
I missed it. Please point out what archeological evidence establishes that anyone looked in Jesus' eyes. That someone existed does not prove they were within a hundred miles of the event that day.
So whoever made up the story included actual people in it. Is there any archological evidence that these people were not a hundred miles away that day?
You are bearing false witness.
You will go to hell
Puck2442 1 year ago
@Puck2442 Scholars and archaeologists have examined the data. The correlation to the book of Acts is at the 99.9% confidence level. The book of Acts correlation has no correlation to the people who looked into Jesus on that day. But it does make the Christian faith viable. Archaeological finds do verify people existed, who according to Biblical texts, were present with Jesus on that day.
I find that you view your subjective OPINION of greater value than data?
Most people prefer data.
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
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@TwoAngelsVision
Yes, the data indicates these people were real but reports of their actions on any given date has zero archaeological evidence supporting it. That any of them were within a hundred miles of Jesus that day is OPINION.with no evidence whatsoever.
Were I to claim JFK was at my birthday party last year, historical evidence of the reality of JFK would not change the fact that my story was false.
Where is the evidence they were eyewitness' to anything?
Puck2442 2 months ago
Video correct, thanks, but these posters are so way wrong & misled! There are over 50 proven records of Jesus OUTSIDE the Bible even & written by most who were enemies w/nothing to gain = HISTORY. see Sir William Ramsay, the famous EX-atheist set out to prove Luke & Acts wrong. After yrs. of digs he proved Luke correct to the smallest detail! He said Luke was the best historian! And many others like Ramsay are not skeptics anymore as their archaeology & PROVEN history proved most correct.
GoodyBob 1 year ago
Dude your delusonal!
viagro1980 1 year ago
There is still no contemporary record of the life of Jesus during his supposed lifetime. No mention at all, which is odd considering that if Jesus were attracting thousands of followers the Roman and Jewish scholars of the time would have certainly recorded it, especially the Romans, who were ever vigilant to troublemakers stirring up rebellion. Listing known historical figures such as Pontius Pilate as evidence of the existence of Jesus proves nothing.
solinvictus39 1 year ago
@solinvictus39 This is simply your opinion.
The greatest issue with your viewpoint is that there are more than 300 archaeological items correlating to events in Acts. This calculates to a correlation at the 99.9% confidence level.
The Alexander ossuary can be dated by a coin dated to AD 42. Crosses are on many of the ossuary and some inscribed "Yeshua" in Hebrew. Yeshua's name is inscribed on ossuary very early.
To know Jesus can be proven in our time by personal relationship. next post
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
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VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision
The fact that-
The fact that the fish was the symbol until the cross was adobted in the 600's
Another of thoes Pagan sybols and stories that could not be displaced from the social cultural psychie, so was adopted and portraed as christian.
"The word 'cross' was later substituted for the word 'stake' in the rewriting of the Christian text "
This does not concern you.
VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision
You don't believ Jesus acctually died on the stake/cross do you.
What with all the scholars, which you seem to like when theyy support your veiw.
Say this was not so including many theologins and christian schoarls whom have the honesty to go with the evidence.
It may not have been a deliberate lie, it could have been a mistake to think he was dead. (assuming the story is true, which it could be, they executed many criminals).
Usually took 3daysbut Jesus 6 or 9 hours?
VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision
WELL DONE.
So your evidence is "they found the body" or at least where the bones were kept after the corps rotted." I agree,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
@solinvictus39
I was in a Bible study where a spiritual being came out of a psychic and caused a bird to squawk frantically and to beat its wings to distract from teaching. Five people in the room witnessed the event, making it objective evidence of the spiritual world.
Over 6-months, the bird never did anything but sit in its cage. That night was beyond unusual. Your worldview is false.
Evidence abounds and you choose to ignore it based on faulty assumptions.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision
A birdy spits the dummy one night and this is your objective evidence.
Superman flew over new york, new york exists, therefor superman is real.
I am interested in real evidence, make no assumptions that cant be tested and proved.
The faulty assumption is God Exists from there you simply want to believe and see it - Delusion.
Faith small or great is "a strong belief in a supernatural power or powers".
This is the same claim to absolute truth and accuracy as all religions make.
VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
Why are you so emotional in your responses to me?
Your EMOTIONAL RELIGION has you totally brainwashed and it is obvious you are so narrow minded, you don't accept anyone's viewpoint.
I have reference credible scholarly works that detail archaeological evidence and permit mathematical calculations. I also show the relevance of laws of thermodynamics. Why did not respond to the scientific perspective?
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision Christianity is brainwashing. How else can you get so many people to believe in something that has NO evidence. ITs like worshiping the easter bunny or tooth fairy, oh almost forgot santa claus.
lespauls61 1 year ago
@lespauls61 Sorry dude, the easter bunny, santa claus and tooth fairy are not in the
Bible. You've got your wires crossed and can't think straight.
At the end of the 19th century, scholars questioned Acts credibility for Greek Titles of local magistrates. Since then, more than 30 items were uncovered. Thus, a single correlation was shown credible between Scripture and ancient artifacts. These finds establish a credible correlation with more than 300 documented.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision
Perhaps I do get emotional, it is 2010 and with the evidence available I really think this would be over. So mankind can put superstitious nonsence behind it and move on.
Scholars argue and disagree, Archeologically there is no doubt places exsisited and certain events took place however because this was clearly padded out as a story of religious activity that does not make the narative true. In fact scholars have uncovered more invention the harder they looks.
VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
@solinvictus39 The anti-Christian viewpoint has no evidence to verify that Jesus did not exist or that Christian faith is based on myth.
An good example of a myth based faith is the book of Mormon BOM. No archaelogical evidence has been found. DNA tests verify the BOM is false. Claims in the BOM supports Indians have Jewish blood.
Also, what quantity of written material survived 2000 years? Less than 0.01%. The finds to date means there is much more to Christ than your poor assumptions.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision Two thing:
1) What scientific evidence do you have to support the claim that mormon holy book is myth?
2) you said, "The anti-Christian viewpoint has no evidence to verify that Jesus did not exist or that Christian faith is based on myth." What scientific evidence do you have for the christian viewpoint supporting that christian faith is not based on myth? Understand, the bible is NOT scientific evidence to support such a claim. That being said, where's your evidence?
99minerkc 1 year ago
Regarding BOM and scientific evidence. To begin, BOM storyline is that Jewish people came to the American continent in the 6th century BCE. They brought horses, swords, created coins, etc.
Problem is that no archaeological evidence has been found to support the storylilne. No pre-columbian horse remains exist in the American continents. No coins, etc...
DNA tests of native Indians reveal no relationship to Jewish descendents. DNA verifies the storyline in BOM is mythic.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision "Problem is that no archaeological evidence has been found to support the storylilne. " What archaeological evidence has been found to support the storyline of Jesus Christ rising from the dead?
99minerkc 1 year ago
@99minerkc It's funny because you still have NOT provided a shed of empirical evidence yet you expect people to embrace your extraordinary claims by faith! No thanks, not interested!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@99minerkc Unlike the BOM, the storyline of Acts has more than 300 unique finds correlating to the texts. If Acts were mythic, nothing would have been uncovered. This is a beginning point.
Specific Local Knowledge required the authors to be on site:
We shall list examples exclusively from Acts 13-28, which are concerned
with Paul' s travels, and lend themselves to the supposition
that Luke possessed intimate knowledge of local circumstances.
The info pages 108 to 175.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
Details on the pages cited from "The Book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History" can be catalogued and analyzed.
The details of historic artifacts do not prove the spiritual stories in the Bible to be true. But they make the Bible a viable faith. [the contrast with BOM is absolutely no archaeological finds to support the storyline].
Since less than 0.1% of ancient history remains, more than 300 finds is extraordinary to establish a credible storyline.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
In regards to archaeological evidence supporting Jesus' resurrection, we rely on the storyline of the Bible having a correlation to the archaeological evidence. And it is credible to ask, "Why did Saul of Tarsus, a persecutor of early Christians, do a 180° change to become a Christian?
In Acts, Saul's conversion story is given. How much faith is required to believe such stories?
Since the physical side of Acts is credible at the 99.9% confidence level, a small amount of faith is needed.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision AGAIN, I ASKED FOR 'EMPIRICAL' evidence and you FAILED to provide any!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision The bible is not evidence is it a book of stories from non witness sources of which has been constantly re-written over the centuries and stories changed to make it sound good.
lespauls61 1 year ago
I have already presented that Laws of Thermo.. support the universe cannot have a natural source. And ask, "Since thermodynamic laws do not explain the origin of the universe, should we expect to observe supernatural events in this universe?"
Saul of Tarsus conversion story is credible based on the thermodynamics premise.
Can people seeking spiritual truth have a Saul of Tarsus conversion? Thus, I write of spiritual observations observed with others present.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision Dude your messed up I suggest you seek help fast.
lespauls61 1 year ago
Since less than 0.1% of ancient artifacts remain, finding over 300 with a 99.9% correlation to Acts is astounding, which makes Christian faith viable.
Due to such a good correlation between Acts and artifacts, a key find is the Gallio Inscription dated to ~ AD 51. The find is key since dating events in Acts can be done. And the biography of Apostle Paul germane to Pauline texts is established. This also establishes WHEN pauline epistles were written. 1 Corinthians written ~AD 54. next
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
1 Corinthians 15:3 supports that Paul and the early day Christians accepted Jesus' resurrection from the very beginning (~30 to 34 AD). The history of Paul is given in Galatians 1 and 2 that supports this viewpoint based on archaeological data correlating to Acts. [Paul converted by ~32 to 37 AD]
The viewpoint that the resurrection was established late in the 1st century is challenged by the artifacts that correlate to biblical texts at the 99.9% confidence level.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision That just means they believed in a story they did not witness anything. This is not evidence. There is NO archeological or historical evidence that indicates a jesus or a crucifixtion
lespauls61 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision Wrong the bible is not considered reliable evidence. Just because someone "accepted the story doesnt mean jack. ANd there is NO archeological evidence to support anything jesus related in the bible NOTHING.
lespauls61 1 year ago
Regarding Christian faith, the storyline in the book of Acts has substantial archaeological data verifying the physical stories did occur. For example, the travels of the Apostle Paul. Correlation between the texts and archaeological data correlates at the 99.9% confidence level.
This does not proove the Christian faith to be true. But it makes Christian faith VIABLE.
IF NO archaelogical data correlated to Acts, then the Atheist viewpoint that Jesus is a myth would be viable.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
To truly start at the beginning of this evidence, the laws of thermodynamics verify the universe will end in cold/heat death. Natural words are not able to sustain themselves.
The source of the universe cannot be subject to the laws of thermodynamics.
Therefore, it is logical that the source is above natural law. Laws of Thermodynamics support that the source must be above natural law, therefore, Supernatural.
This does not proove that God exists. But it is logical to ask "NEXT THREAD"
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
Continued from Laws of Thermo:
It is logical to ask, "Since the laws of thermodynamics support that a natural source of the universe is unlikely, should humans expect to OBSERVE supernatural events in this universe?"
Therefore, the atheist worldview is not very credible.
When people observe supernatural events, there is scientific foundation in the laws of thermodynamics that support their observations are credible.
NEXT THREAD
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
If you attempt to photograph lightning with a camera, the probability of snapping a photo of lightning is very low.
The same is true of supernatural events. It is highly improbable that such events can be photographed. That does not mean they do not occur as Atheists assume.
On this site, I have discussed the observation of a bird squawking incessantly and beating its wings to distract from teaching the Bible. All I hear is emotional *?% from atheists.
Observation is a facet of science
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
What is the difference between photographing lightning versus spiritual events?
Time between the events is a big factor.
Being at the right place at the right time would be relevant to both lightning and spiritual events. If you want to observe, you have to be in the right place. THINK ABOUT IT.
Atheists assume they are correct, In reality, you haven't a clue.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@solinvictus39 People did write about Jesus. There are the accepted gospels and later false gospels that write of Jesus. Just because they are the Bible you choose to be biased and ignore what is written?
The video infers this question, "Is the book of Acts credible?"
Archaeologists and scholars find a direct correlation to the texts, making it viable. In contrast, the book of Mormon storyline has no evidence to date. Therefore, we logically conclude the BOM is fiction. not so with the Bible
TwoAngelsVision 2 months ago
If this was all true it would have been broadcast via the mainstream news or at the least fox news!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@99minerkc Actually, there are scholarly books and I have documented them. There are also scholarly videos that have the viewpoint of those who conclude that Christian faith is viable. The opposing viewpoint has no evidence to verify that Jesus did not exist or that Christian faith is based on myth.
An good example of a myth based faith is the book of Mormon BOM. No archaelogical evidence has been found. DNA tests verify the BOM is false. Claims in the BOM supports Indians have Jewish blood.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision I want emirical evidence not opinion or personal experience as they mean nothing to me!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision WHERE'S THE EVIDENCE? So far you have presented no evidence!
99minerkc 1 year ago
@99minerkc
I don't think you can expect any evidence there is none.
This vid has no actual archeological evidence supporting the biblical myths.
Only support of historical characters existence, these are mutually exclusive but I don't think the author has a clue. Just bang on with the Rhetoric.
VideoAudioDisco09 1 year ago
@VideoAudioDisco09 Ok, thanks for the comment! :-)
99minerkc 1 year ago
@99minerkc I referenced a scholarly book. Will you take time to study that book?
Or will your assumptions continue to lead your astray?
The book of Acts in the Setting of Hellenistic History.
Overall, there are more than 300 physical items that correlate to the texts of Acts at the 99.9% confidence level. To take your viewpoint requires basing your views at 0.01% confidence level.
Objective evidence is available for scholars to study, like it or not.
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TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago
@TwoAngelsVision Objective evidence? What is objective evidence ie who determines that it's objective? Are you saying that "empirical" evidence is available to scholars, is so, what makes you think I wouldn't like it? LOOK, I AM SIMPLY LOOKING FOR EMPIRICAL(SCIENTIFIC)evidence of supporting that Jesus rose from the death and talked to humans before ascending to heaven! I don't doubt his existence and death! So far NOBODY on planet earth has come up with scientific(empirical)evidence(cont)
99minerkc 1 year ago
(cont here)to support such an event! I do believe that if he existed, Jesus Christ died and stayed dead! IF YOU HAVE SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE that jesus rose again, yes, I will take time to read it!!
99minerkc 1 year ago
Laws of Thermodynamics support that the universe must have a non-natural source. If the Atheist worldview is correct, only the natural world exists.
But the universe is destined for cold death or hot death. The universe cannot sustain itself. How did it begin?
The source of the universe cannot be controlled or subject to the laws of thermodynamics. Therefore, Source is above natural law. We deduce the source must be SUPERNATURAL.
Your assumptions are very poor.
TwoAngelsVision 1 year ago