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  • Ben out = oh noooo , he was awesome

    John fired = shit !!!!!!!! what happened ?

    Rocky out = HOLY SHIT , AND NOW ?

    Evanescence 2011 = ADELE DOWNN

  • He says "I started tne band when I was 14" as if that entitles him to turning up, but guess what Ben...YOU left the band. You can't leave the responsibility behind yet expect to take some of the glory. You make the decision and then you should live with the consequences.

  • Screw you man!! Omg he is soo bitter!

  • Rocky wasn't fired. He quit. This is how crap gets started.

  • i want ben back!!!! 

  • Ben made amy, now ben is making carly, Scrub you!! amy lee, Ben moody is the master mind here!

  • @EVaplynHD nope Carly and her group have been sacked by universal republic

  • @kaarankin69 true. except you need to tell the whole story. they were only signed for a debut album. The buzz about them didnt promote record sells cuz it was too small at the time... UR dropped them prematurely in my opinion... they are amazing artists and i have a feeling some other label will pick them up and profit greatly for it

  • @Darkpyro0988 i doubt that another company will sign them alot of people don't like them because of the fact that they trying to reinvent EV but of course there are 3 ex members i believe Ben moody should just be the lead singer and change the bands name and drop carly Ben moody isnt a bad singer. IF they do this then ill start listening to them

  • @EVaplynHD LOL . ben didnt make amy . If ben was AS amazing as you make him sounds .. when he left the band evanescence would be nothing. That didnt happen . Amy lee is VERY talented ... Shit if she has a solo album i bet you it would sell millions .

  • @Riotmix Have you heard any of Evanescence's new material? No you haven't that's right. That's because it wasn't just Ben Moody writing the music it was Moody, John LeCompt, and Rocky Gray. Why do you think the music stayed the same just lost its edge when Moody left? Because LeCompt and Gray, while still being good musicians, couldn't hold Evanescence up while Amy Lee was busy show boating. Now they are all in We Are The Fallen and their music is superb while Evanescence is new-album-less.

  • @Darkpyro0988 There is no more we are the fallen. made one album and failed miserably Carly just sucks Ben should just be the lead singer and change the bands name. If you think Ben was such a great writer why don't he write other stuff on EVs fallen album the whole album was about suicide and depression while the 2nd album was much more creative. BTW john and rocky never wrote a music in the fallen album they weren't even in EV during their production

  • @Darkpyro0988 Yes, i actually have. I own the CD and also saw them at the sound academy . Evanescence is number ONE on the billbords top 200 . Amy lee has been writting music since she was young and still is, Moody was not the source of all their lyrics Also, you mentioned john and rocky and ben but didnt mention amy .. amy was the CO writter of all the albums. Fallen, the open door and the new self titled album . You need to be legit when you argue with me.. i know my shit when it comes to EV.

  • @Darkpyro0988 Some might say evanescence lost its edge .. SOME. Everyones oppinon changes but its BULLSHIT when all the moody fans symobolize moody as the soul reason why evanscence gained its fans. Personally, i couldnt give a shit about moody or rocky or john .. I originally listen to evanescence because of amy lee and i garinty you if she even decided to go solo she will sell out arenas. I didnt hear of " we are the fallen " since last fucking week bro .. SO AMAZING and bairley ne 1 knows em.

  • @EVaplynHD LOL . Ben didnt make moody . With amys voice, even if ben was never apart of her life she is bound to get discoverd . FACTS state evanescence is still very much a successfull band .ben writes good lyrics , thats nothing to argue but fallen was Co writen with amy so they both own some of the glory. Hes bitter, look at the way he talks compired to amy .. i still havent found one video where amy says or acts how he did in the video above. Its called growing up and moving on.

  • @Riotmix

    This video is over half a decade old.

  • @EVaplynHD didnt make amy **

  • Well yeah he deserved the Grammy as well so they give everyone a Grammy they don't share joint custody of their ONE Grammy.. :p

    Glad they won but sucks they seem to hate each other.

  • if amy Lee was the one that left EV in 2003 the band will be buried.. because who will replace amy lee?? your not gonna have avril lavigne replacing EV

  • ok , shut up moody

  • i can't believe they said that because of you sounded like an evanescence song...i don't know how....kelly clarkson wrote those lyrics. ben moody and david hodges helped produce it, but it doesn't sound like evanescence in anyway....

  • didn't quite get. does ben have his grammy for the fallen or no?

  • Ben needed to leave. It was better for the band. Evanescence wouldn't have last with Ben and Amy working together. Terry is a great guitarist anyways. Very different than Ben. Style and influences are different. Terry has more of a metal/numetal influences. Which I understand why some fans don't like the new style. but it still has mostly Amy's influence in it still. Evanescence will survive as long as Amy is motivated.

  • Ben Moody, Great songwriter

  • It's so sad how awesome bands like these split up. :P

  • Umm.. he's not a member of evanescence anymore, and the grammy went to evanescence. So why is he upset? He has another band, and shouldn't be like this, it's kind of childish

  • To be honest i was listening to bring me to life for the music not the lyrics or the singing and i saw ben moody with long hair and it peaked my curiosity so i watched it and when i see comments that say Amy Lee is a godess it pisses me off because she clearly isnt shes just an average singer/song writer.

  • lol my names thatfatplumber for a joke because i like mario im not fat and the fact that you take that much affence to a joke about an over rated average bullshiter is pathetic Evanescence fucking suck LISTEN TO THE FUCKING MUSIC the first album was good not great but the second album sucked ass and you can believe what you want man its your liberty but seriously climb out her ass kid.

  • lol the songs have gotten worse man out of all the songs from the open door in my appinion only a few stood out from the average bullshit that is Amy Lee.

  • lol Amy Lee sucks live and anybody who thinks other wise need's to climb out her fat fucking ass.

  • @ThatFatPlumber You suck, and obviously don't know something good when you hear it...

  • @ThatFatPlumber Clearly you havent seen her live. I recently went to her show at the sound academy .. Amazing . She improved SO much than previous shows ive went too and honestly the other ones were really good . Her voice is amazing and the only reason it sounds bad on youtube is because in most shows the drum and gutiar and bass and vice versa get their own micraphones therefor that all togather over powers her voice .

  • ..you'll make better music then.

    

  • Ive always said that one shouldnt let personal views or tabloid of an artist get in the way of their music and enjoy their creation for what it is. But theres just something about Ben that rubs me the wrong way. I didnt like him from the start of Fallen and I'm not sure I want to hear any more of his music because of that. You do deserve that award. Thanks for helping bring Amy to the world but I bid you a fucking adieu. Grow some balls, get some hair on that chest, and bury the hatchet already.

  • @MariYvette85

    dude, chill. I'm not saying she's fat.

    Yes, she's a beautiful singer. I was just agreeing with him that she got a little heavy but also informing him that she lost the weight.

  • Honestly Ben is good with songs and doing many things in the music industry but doing that just for glory is messed up. I love Amy she is talented and know her faults she knows that is wasnt just Bens fault either. But leaving after getting what he wants was just uncalled for. I'm sure he knows his faults as well. Just an my thoughts, i wish them both luck. And dang it they must come out with their new album! Me want music T.T

  • I am amazed................SELLING OUT???

    What do all of you do everyday when you go to your jobs to try and make a living??

    Are all of your Jobs your own creations..........I sincerely doubt it.

    Ben Moody writes music.......A true artist can work in many different media and excel.

    Obviously, if Ben Moody can go from Evanescence to Celine Dion to Avril Livine to Kelly Clarkson to Chris Daughtry and have all of them wanting his work and creating some big songs, that is amazing !!

  • david hodges is back!

  • If he wrote the music, then he deserves to be there, fuck anyone who says otherwise.

  • @TheKatIsBackAgain He co-wrote fallen . Its one thing to be bitter over something that is compleatly owned by you but when you sit there and you write with more than one person you should not be bitter . He had every right to be there thats for sure but ben seems to always think he deserves more than he has .. which is pathetic .

  • @Riotmix

    Because you wouldn't be bitter if something you put your blood sweat and tears into was having the credit taken by others that did nothing?

    This was 7 years ago. I can't find a single shred of evidence that he's actually a bitter person. Should people simply switch off who they are and sweep it under the rug because it's an uncomfortable topic? How about you go read some of his more recent releases so you understand his perspective a bit better. He's not bitter about it.

  • Ben sounds so bitter....=p

  • It was only childish of you, you're the fanatic here, who ignored all my points with platitudes and anecdotal claims. The truth is, Ben added the dark atmosphere to the songs, hence why the second album was much more melodic and included way more ballads. You can't see that Hallow because you aren't using perspective. Truce? this was never an argument, it was one rational person(me) trying to explain things to a fanatic, you.

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  • The point is Hallow, that you aren't really disproving my point, that fangirls like you don't use any clarity. You hang on some twisted view you have of me and try and make it fact. No one said Moody was a genius, but you have this weird idea that I did. So let me clarify, he isn't and your a hypocrite for bashing a producer to which I'm sure you bobbed your head to his and Amy's songs.

    So he's a bad guy now that he's left the band? cmon even you can't be that stupid.

  • Wow I just realized you're 28...using childish tactics and cursing up a windstorm...here I thought I was discussing something with a child. It's pretty sad that an adult is reduced to a blubbering fan girl. It's horrible to think there are fanatics like you of every age.

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  • @PrisonCipher OMG! Once again, the only one using childish tactis is YOU! So buh bye lil bug in my eye! Plz waltz off like the loser you are!! And ur what? 25? So don't go there! Ur no spring chicken urself! HA! Don't get it twisted!! All b/c Im a fan of Evs and NOT ur preoius Moody DOESN'T make me a hypocrite!! My original POV! You can view my prof all ya want! Maybe you can stfu already seeing that I am a huge fan of this veeery worthy band!! Take it all for what it is and GET OVER URSELF!!

  • @hallo so then move on. Why stay here and play tit for tat ? Don't praise yourself as mature when you aren't exactly acting like a rational person. And stop with the whole

    "precious moody" angle, I already said I wasn't a fan of his, only that I enjoyed what he did in the first album. You're trying to twist my point around, don't play that card. And no I'm not attacking all the fans, just ones like you who are deluded and over zealous.

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  • @hallow, now your focusing on how many friends I have? Are you really 28? because I think I'm discussing something with a kid. Keep in mind that its just Youtube for me, so I understand how this might be "life" for you, but isn't for me. Having more friends than someone does not a discussion make. Then again I'm getting messaged from a girl who even after a year of a comment, still can't let things go...

    I think you're the lonely one here, if indeed you want to play those cards. Either way sad

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  • @hallo, actually I realized you were obsessed when you just couldn't let go, and that you used poorly drawn out assumptions. I knew right around there this would equate you cursing like a child and using cheap comebacks over generalizations. I didn't even have to play the female card, you already did for me.

    And I enjoy youtube as much as anyone else, I just know when to let go of the mouse and step outside. Funny thing is, I'm sure we would get along just in RL. The web makes fools of us all.

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  • @hallo, I never said you were mad, just that you curse like a child with a tantrum which tends to make me ignore a statement. You keep bringing up that I'm lonely when you're here doing the same thing...failed logic dummy. Don't assume you're right based off of what you might think.

    Thats called delusion. You aren't right because you havent used any evidence, and that small amount in which you did, I disproved.

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  • @hallo, actually I stated my point several times now, you just aren't typing back about that. How many times do I have to call you a hypocrite before you address that matter? Or merely just accept it. The female card is expected its par for the course. Its also one of the reasons you're irrational, fanatical and delusional.

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  • @hall, actually I've accepted that what we are doing here is sad and ridiculous. The point here is that you throw out platitudes like "lonely" and don't see that you're doing the same thing. If I'm a desperate bitch, than you're a over zealous attention whore. We can wear the masks if it helps you better understand that you are indeed a hypocrite.

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  • @hall actually, I never said you were a hypocrite for liking a band, but instead for attacking a band member that left, for no reason what so ever. Keep in mind that you probably still love songs from Fallen that he more than likely produced exclusively. My point is that you're a hypocrite for hating him now, but I'm sure you enjoyed his tunes before he left.

    So you can keep with the name calling, it doesn't take away anything, nor does it add anything intelligent.

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  • @hallow, it really didn't till I realized you were using failed logic and cursing up a windstorm trying to prove a point that isn't there, while making up false claims. That is usually the tactic of a 12 year old. Keep in mind that you throw out plenty of platitudes that don't have anything to do with the original topic.

    Don't point at me for deviating from a topic when all you do is use false information and curse. Original Point

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  • @hallo again, You assumed I like Ben Moody, wrong. I never posted that. Secondly you assumed that I said Eva's second album was a pure ballad album, never said that, merely that they had more melodic/ballad song on said album. Moody left and it got a little softer my original point.

    And telling me to stfu is the definition of a strawman argument so lets not go there. You can be on your way or keep going at this. I enjoy making you look like a fanatic who needs to ease off.

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  • @hallow "hey fucker"? really? If thats the game you wish to play, Hey cunt!, I already knew you were a fanatic, its just sad that people like you exist. Instead of having a conversation you throw out platitudes that have nothing to do with the original point at hand.

    Power hungry? nah I just use logical thinking, I know its hard to comprehend being a fanatic and female.

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  • @hall, I already made my point , you're a hypocrite for attacking Ben Moody on a point that made no sense, and you're a fanatic, how is that hard to follow? You also lack clarity, thinking ability, and suffer from using illogical reasoning.

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  • @hallo Actually you are, because I'm sure you were bobbing your head to many of the songs on her first albums were you not? So to hate a band member because he left is the purest definition of hypocrite. And at this point what does it matter? My point of view isn't a POV its a fact. You are indeed a hypocrite. Seriously though, sad is how we are flooding this video with comments, when you could have just inboxed me....

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  • @hallo, right so now you're saying you knew Eva through the open door? So then what made you look for this vid in the beginning? If you know about them, it isn't because of ToD its because of Fallen, which had more mainstream coverage than ToD. Nice try though.

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  • @hallo besides repeating what I state, explain to me how I'm a hypocrite? How did I say something and do something completely opposite? Unlike you who has admitted that you are a fanatic and that you are illogical.

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  • @cargadoscarajos Neither of them were kicked out. Get your facts straight. Ben left, because if he didn't leave te band would die. And David left too, because he was worried he led the band in a Christian direction.

  • I do believe that Amy is the secret of evanescence success

  • @kaify12 I agree! Amy H. Lee is the best! EVANESCENCE ROX!

  • whoa, amy's face at 1:15? when did she get so fat?

  • @TheVieasaur

    she lost that weight now.

    and I know. don't know how she got so heavy. No offense.

  • @MasakoXer is terry still in the band?

  • @jessica56786789

    yeah he is.

  • omg now i know why i was so obsessed with that kelly clarkson song!

    it was evanesence! ^^

    i always wondered why i would like a pop song like that so much

    guess i know now

  • I prefer the Open Door to Fallen. Ben moody admitted he mistreated Amy (a real ev fan would know this, it's on evthreads and evboard) I love both albums, and Amy said herself she changed the sound in The open door because they all wanted something completely different to Fallen

  • 0.45 David and ben? O.o

  • lol did ben moody wear a wig or did he grow his hair out in that video?

  • @familyghosthaunting no it was a wig he also brought a cane he didn't need either.

    He just wanted to show the world what an idiot he is.

  • okay I would also be angry if I would have been kicked outta a band like Evanescence.

  • How many of you want to bet WATF won't last 10 years! I'm serious. THEY WONT.

  • @TheREALnorp I second that! :))

  • and I wonder...

    how is it even possible that Ben could say 'I started the band' ?!?!?!

    YES he started the band, but he would have made just a shyt of it if it wasn't for Amy!

    they started it TOGETHER, and yes I agree that the Grammy was THEIRS but now that he's not in the band anymore it should be with Amy, the real star, and not an extra like Ben! he's just too childish to recognize it! That was SO fucking wrong! D:<

  • Wow, that makes me sad. Amy Lee and Ben Moody used to be such good friends! I'd never heard this interview until today, and now I know whose side I'm on. AMY LEE'S! While We Are the Fallen does sort of have the old Evanescence sound to it, and I do listen to them on occassion, Evanescence will always be the best. No question about it.

  • All of the musicians that have been a part of Evanescence are incredibly talented, it's just sad to see people who were once close friends could be so bitter towards one another.

  • that ben dude, is a fucking dick.

  • Terry's riffs are so much better and Fallen's sound was made by Amy not by Ben because now Ben at Watf made songs a lot of different from Fallen's.

    Amy+Terry FTW!

  • @TheEtoimos ..amy herself said at the grammys that her and ben wrote ALL of FALLEN together..its not a coincidence that Fallen sold 14 mill and the open door only sold 5. The sound changed after FALLEN,,any evanescence fan will tell you that...its still good music..the point is BEN created the band and AMY tried to take over so he left

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  • Evanescence is way better off without him. We the fans bid you fucking adue Ben Moody. He's nothing without Amy's voice and he's too bitter to admitt that he was kicked out of the band because he's not good enough for them. Good luck being a sell out and making music for pop sensations Ben, i'm gonna love seeing how many friends you have by the end of this pathetic career (y).

    AMY AND TERRY,

    you are the fucking best.

    Never stop making music.

  • @gothikvampiress101 you people are idiots..BEN CREATED THE BAND,,there is no EVANESCANCE WITHOUT HIM..you people wouldnt have shit to talk about.. I love AMY but you people are brainwashed to worship leadsingers and discredit the backround musicians..a band is a band because everybody needs to work together as ONE..they should all deserve equal credit..lets face it AMY let the fame get to her, and became a control freak bitch..no wonder shes the only one left...

    i still love her 2 death

  • @gothikvampiress101 lol do you know anything about Ben?

    Amy herself admitted that Ben leaving was the best thing for the band. Ben had undiagnosed Bi-Polar disorder, and he and Amy were in a relationship, which was becoming increasingly dysfunctional, to the point where they were no longer on the same tour bus, and their relationship trouble was going to tear the band apart, so he left, it was the best thing for all of them.

    Don't get me wrong, I LOVE Amy, but get ur facts straight

  • @gothikvampiress101 You said it girl! I just wish there was more people like you and the seven others that supported your comment! ^-^

  • @gothikvampiress101 lol...hes making a living with writing songs...that is actually very cool , its his work...and its not selling out

  • @gothikvampiress101 Fucking adieu.

  • its only an evanescenses song if amy fuckin sings it

  • okay....because of you sounded nothing like an evanescence song...wtf?

  • dont know bout you guys but im waitin 4 the day wen they all perform together again n there will b no solitude n they hugs each other n everything bad memories got burned.waitin 4 d happy ending love u amy love you ben love you john ,terrry,tim,n best friend rocky rocx ..luv u guys hope you come back home

  • if you have seen some stage perfomance of evanescence you will know that beside amy all of them(ben ,john tim terry, especially rocky) al r so dedicated wen they performs ..they r d best synchronised band 4ever .. wat hurts me n many of u tht v lost a legendry band .:,(

  • i really love amy but more then amy i luv music n she is d godess of d music 4 me .but its not fair tht v have 2 say some nonsence 2 other members of evanesnce they r equally telanted i know amy can alone hava power 2 run evanecence i too posted like u guys but i guess amy too never say this things 2 there members .if u dont belive it see her facebook my twitter account is @crow_darkangel

  • Ugh...

  • Why the fuck did ben have long hair?

  • I would love to hear Amy Lee sing a cover of 'Because of You'

    :D

  • Well. Ben seems bitter to LeCopmt too. So he had a problem with the whole band probably. The band doesn't need selfish people to be great. And Gray was NOT fired

  • 0:34 omg she so Hot=)

  • someone's a little moody lol

  • Amy Lee Perfect .... Ben Fucking

    Evanescence Brazil Day 08.11.09 Perfect ;)

  • shut the fuck up idiot

  • Evanescence still stands! And "We Are The Fallen" might just should like the album "Fallen" from Evanescence, but nothing can defeat "The Open Door" Ben Moody, your words are sh!t in this interview. You're asshole crew and Carly won't get so far, not writhing the same songs over and over. You guys will never mature like Amy, Terry and Tim. Ef off, haters............

  • another fuckin dumbshit ev fan....dude shut the fuck and piss off. guarantee your punk ass that WATF are gonna OWN ev VERY soon. have fun with your new 'electro pop' ev record jackass

  • @dergru the twitvid's for ev have more views than we are the fallen has sold albums. ouchy watf hasn't done so well so far =(

  • @dergru O really? "own" Evanescence what with like two, maybe three songs? LMAO! We Are The Fallen, they sing old Ev songs n e ways, sooo lame! And does it really take like seven months after their one hit wonder song "Bury Me Alive" comes out to make a vid? Ha! Even so, WATF is exactly what it is! "They are the fallen" and they will fall all the way down to nowhere land, b/c of their nasty selves!! Yet somehow, we all still remember the name "Amy Lee" B/c its EVANESCENCE FOREVER!...

  • @hallowgurl55 WATF is a fucking name Ben want to say that he is the Fallen (album) but we can see that the Fallen's sound is made by Amy because now Ben without her makes shit.

  • @TheEtoimos :)!!

  • @ToddLovett09 My sentiments exactly friend! EVANESCENCE FOREVER!!....

  • man FUCK ben moody!!!!!!!!

  • man FUCK YOU BITCH

  • @iLOVEChihuahuas123 well all amy has to do is sell more than 20,000 copies and she's beat them. yeah yeah they've only been out for less than a month. But their cd sucks I am very dissapointed and their numbers are falling fast. Carly's voice and lyrics are nowhere near Amy. Ben would have done better trying to get celine dion, kelly clarkson or avril lavigne in his new band.

  • Duche bags, they are in this band now called "We Are the Fallen" and they have almost the same style that Amy Lee sings. They teamed up with Carly Smithson who looks, Dresses and Sings just like Amy Lee

  • i disagree with the "sings just like Amy Lee" part. Carly forces too much her voice, and it's painful to listen to her singing. Watch this video: Evanescence - the truth. It's really good. (it's very long but it's worth it) you'll see the contrast b/w Amy & CArly.

  • 1 - learn how to spell

    2 - shut the fuck up u judgmental piece of shit

  • Fired? I thought they chose to leave.

  • I think Moody and Grey left and LeCompt was the only one who was actually fired

  • i think you're right

  • Ben: .l.

  • without ben moody evanescence is not the same thing

  • they dont need ben mooody

  • @hasgar01 That's true! Now EVANESCENCE IS SO MUCH BETTER!!

  • @adr14ntr Now thats a diffrent way of thinking my friend! Great choice of words! And its how I feel about this situation at hand as well! And now the band is def sooo much better! Cant wait for their new album!

  • oh thats real fucking mature ben! bid her fucking adue? but u took the grammy n e ways! typical male ego shyte!! you are an asshole ben! i used to think that john and rocky were kewl too. but now, i see them all as the three assholes! i def think they are seeking individual fame! they are immature and piggish and its fucking disgusting!! you guys are morons!EVANESCENCE forever! xoxo to AMY HARTZLER/LEE and TERRY BALSAMO, for all ur hard work!! you guys are fucking awesome!! GOO EVANESCENCE!!

  • @hallowgurl55 I worked with John and Phil Taylor, not too far from the truth

  • @hallowgurl55 and tim mccord

  • @coul4597 Opsss! My bad all and Tim McCord too....

  • @hallowgurl55 Lets not for get will.

  • @RavenEvanescence Oppsss again! Mos def not forget either one of the Wills in Evanescence, for there are two Wills @coul5497 And as for me, its no more forgettin Tim MCcord n e more either! lol But n e ways, I heard that Will "Science" Hunt is one helluva musician! Works well with Amy and with the rest of Ev crew/members. And so it is proof that working with Amy is not hard or thaat difficult!! *smiles...*waves...

  • @hallow I like to think they're all egocentric assholes, Amy included. Rock and roll isn't about being mature, as the beatles and Led Zep have proven. Ultimately, I miss the good songs Moody and Amy produced. All ego aside they made great songs. After he left Eva became a ballad band, which was nice for two songs, but the entire album was filled with it.

    WATF has the sound of old school Eva, so if you don't like them you're just a hypocrite.

  • @PrisonCipher Firstly ur a dumb ass, you make no sense whatsoever! Comparing pop rock/classic rock roles to a goth rock/metal rock bands!? Secondly ur A MORON and clearly DON'T know what a hypocrite is! AND, assuming that I judge WATF AND Ben Moody, soley b/c of the "old school" Eva sound. Thirdly, WATF has no real solid sound, like the "old school Eva" sounds to them (exception to their one song "Bury me Alive") You like the fakes and the pansies and I like the strong and the noble! *waves*

  • @PrisonCipher Hhm?? And, maybe ur right on about the maturity thing in bands (asides of their neat lil titles here) Regardless of what you and how many others feel about RocknRoll and maturity here, it sure damn wouldn't hurt to show "some maturity" and act as a person/people and not like a bunch of pigs sweating for more sop like Rocky John and Ben Moody! Evanescence's' song "Sweet Sacrifice" sure doesnt sound to me like a ballad! I DONT think you even know what that word "ballad" means either!

  • @hallow ok first, you need to relax and understand that you aren't in the band so you need to stop blindly defending them as if they pay your rent. Secondly, the open door was a strong ballad album, yes you can pick a few hard tempo songs but the ballads outweigh the hard rock. As I said, people can like it, but it wasn't the Eva we were introduced to in Fallen.

    Fakes, and Pansies is what the rock business is all about, show me a strong and noble band that hasn't replaced one member...I'll wait

  • @PrisonCipher WOW! Ur def a MORON! My rent or me NOT being in the band Evanescence, has nothing to do with my own opinions about my fav band! So why don't you take ur own advice and chill out and NOT comment back to me about my income which is probably more than ur lil $0.25 rent to ur mummy! I'm allowed to express in my obvious dislike of Ben Moody or even Carly Smithson!! Just so you know, Im not JUST talking about RockNRoll in general! So go and see a therapis already for further options!

  • @PrisonCipher And, so called "blindly defending" a well worthy band, I greatly and obviously appreciate over one plea from you to "relax" is nothing! And guess what else dumb fuck? No fans I know of get paid to be fans and defend their fav band dumb ass! Maybe you should pay me for handling all ur/this stupidity!! And lastly, idk why ppls like you stay in ur dillusions about this other supposed Evanescence? Evanescence IS STILL EVANESCENCE!! There is NO NEED FOR A RE-INTRODUCTION!

  • @PrisonCipher BTW Within Temptation, another great band I know of, NEVER replaced a band member, at leaste to my knowledge and at leaste not in the way this pansy Moody did! So there ya go dummy! As far as band replacements go! Peace biotch! Be gone!

  • @hallow, Within Temptation - Former members- Ivar de Graaf

    Martijn Westerholt

    Michiel Papenhove

    Jelle Bakker

    Ciro Palma

    Dennis Leeflang

    Richard Willemse

    Stephen van Haestregt

    My point made. And stop with the name calling, its childish. Can we atleast act above 12? Ultimately it doesn't matter, band mates come and go, sometimes its an ego thing, sometimes its a personal issue. At this point , it seems like you're nuthugging on Moody just to hate.

  • @PrisonCipher Once again can you take ur OWN FUCKING ADVICE? And stop acting childish your damn self!! I also said "to my knowledge" so let this rest! And ur right its ur POV NOTHING of what I said or anything else! It doesnt matter what you say anymore b/c ur soo way off base here it's not even kewl!! This isnt a dick contest PrisonCipher!! Let it go already!! DAMN!! Get a therapist!! P.S I do hate Moody and even so more now b/c of ppl like YOU! G/L trying to win n e Evanescence fan over! LOL

  • @hallow And yes, to your knowledge you are incorrect, hence making your statement in accurate. I was just addressing that point in your comment. If anyone is way off base, its the person assuming things on behalf without any evidence to back up the claims. How old are you? These look like tactics of a 12 yr old. Regardless my point was that Ben Moody was the reason for many songs on the first album which even fans like you love.

    Eva is different now, its a given. - Original Point.

  • @PrisonCipher U MORON! Firstly, calling me a hypocrite for NOT liking Been Moody, then retorting about my income or how Im NOT in the band Evanescence? If anything ur a loser with too much time on ur hands and need to stop arguing about ur POVs ONLY and learn to argue correctly! Once again WAAY OFF BASE HERE!! Evanescence IS STILL EVANESCENCE!! POINT BLANK! Even without ur precious Moody!! Thats my POV! Ur a lil lost puppy without ur Been Moody who needs a permanant home in a mental institution!

  • @PrisonCipher AND just b/c Im calling you out on ur shit dont go crying about things you luv to make up to argue back about! Maybe you should check urself into a hospital! Ur not so brilliant comebacks as I can tell age has nothing to do with ur foolishness and tactics!! If so ur what a nine year old school gurl?! I have my facts dumb fuck! But u calling Ev a ballad band!? Not too smart and what do you suppose I should call ppls like urself but what you really are? MORONS AND DUMB FUCKS!!

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  • @PrisonCipher Its a no brainer Ev is diff now Amy wanted it that way dumb ass! Ur stating the obvious!! Yes, I wasn't well off assuming about W/T and the band replacements thing BUT, I did say "to my knowledge". Over all you ARE still going off the course, which you say, ur original point was that Ev is diff now no matter what! It's a stupid thing to say dumb fuck!! All I wanted to say before I removed the last post.

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  • @hallo I suppose we are both playing devils advocate, and no one is really the "bigger man", so I'm gonna step aside, because my points you didn't understand nor did you try be anything but a zealot. Opinions are fine, but you tried to pass them off as fact = fail.

    You can write back if you want or discuss this via inbox either way, a few words of advice; It's just a rock band, they don't pay your rent, enjoy all kinds of music, but be objective. Don't come off as a one dimensional fangirl.

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  • @PrisonCipher And, I can say the same thing about ur dumbness, that all you do is come to Ev channels and piss all over Evanescence b/c "Been" Moody is ur king God Man! Too bad hes not in Evanescence anymore! So go and cry ur sorrows away and retort to Been Moody how much you need him back! Cuz it aint gonna happen sooo LOL Seems like that's ur personal issue MORON!! So don't take it out on me! And, I see alot of ppls bitching about Ev but seems like ur more in crisis here! LOL THERAPY!!

  • @hallo, I'm not the one with an issue here, you still are just assuming I'm taking a "piss" at Eva which I'm not, and that I somehow consider Moody a "god" which I don't. You need to grow up alittle, even if just for this discussion. No one said Eva sucked or that they're bad. I stated that they aren't the same after he left, which is by all means, a fact.

    Funny though, how a girl with an Eva background on her page and with the name Hallowgurl is talking about therapy. Stop projecting.

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