i'm heart broken can you help haha j/k. "ask and thou shall receive, seek and thou shall find". this band is great and most other bands are great also. we the HMONG ppl are great that's why we all over the world. we speak almost every language on this planet but not not every person on this planet speaks HMONG. GOD bless. Keep up th great work. i am HMONG and will always be. so stop hatin'. keep the peace. take care of yourself and your family.
I absolutely agree with "apie07" on her/his comment. Christian or not, you should listen to a healthy christian song when you're heart broken because it heals the soul. Dont go listening to a nonchristian song that break your heart even more and then it may even drive you to do stupid things. God bless.
it's not bad taste...it's perfect taste. Any kind of song can go with any kind of music as long as the singer is talented. Broaden your perspective in music before you judge and say it's not good.
Lee Xiong the lead singer of this band always have spiritual meanings in his songs even before he created Holy Thunder. He used to be a screamo lead singer in this band called "Howl" and his lyrics were really spiritual in both Godlike/Satanic way. This guy is a gifted musician.
I am not a christian but I absolutely love this song. I think that there are too many songs that are about love, heart breaks. It's enough. I think that this is very nice song. I think for those who are heart broken should listen to songs like this instead of those mob siab songs, it makes it worst. You need some songs like this to better the soul. I love it.
Wow! Nice! I think the first Hmong Christian band was Stone Plantation I saw by mpdrep001, but this one's great, too. Like to see some live performance. God bless, keep it up.
Wow! Nice! I think the Hmong MPD band Stone Plantation by mpdrep001 was the first Hmong rock band I've ever seen but this one is great, too! Keep it up! God bless!
This is one point why we fight. We fight for sh!t... Not for importants, but for sh!t... I don't give a shit if you a christian or shaman. We're hmong so STFU. Believe what what the fuck you want to believe and stop the hate. Even if you believe that having sex is against your religious or believes, thats your own decision to believe. Shouldn't bother anyone at all. If anything another person do and it bothers you then you must be a dumb mutherfucker.
god didn't give them talent they learn it them selves by hard work gods a fake bu im not tryn to hate because i believe in my religion stay true to my HMONG people
Other HMONG people who believe in other religion other than SHAMEN ur a fake HMONG get out n stop being HMONG because u r not true HMONG
@TsoTauRaum93 Brother, not to get into a argument or so..but from my experience..the Hmong traditional way are similar to the Christian in the old time.here a clue.the bible if you haven't read..has to 2 parts..1st.. they call Old testament and 2nd New Testament.
Ex.
Hmong sacrifices animal for what ever the problems...People in the bible sacrifices animal as well for their sin...asking forgiveness from God. Hmong story about the flood. Bible has that. 1st man and women. Bible has that.
@sakeness I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said "If you want to be a real Hmong". I should have said "If you are a real Hmong, please don't speak English then".
God made man small and the universe big to say something about Himself. And He says it for us to learn and enjoy-namely, that He is infinitely great and powerful, wise, and beautiful. Glory to His name!
Why is it that on all Christian music youtube videos, there's ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS an argument about whether or not Jesus Christ exists? It's completely ridiculous. Praise God if you wish, if not then don't leave a rude comment. -Have a blessed day.
You mentioned about your opinions/knowledge.. I understand that one is obligated to one's opinions. I wasn't trying to be offensive here. I was just informing and answering, again. I don't know if you went study Bible- I was just correcting you on that study Bible isn't just for young teens- I can only know what you've told me.
You called me being hypocritical. But, make sure, you know how to use that term before you use it. Same thing with contradiction. I'm going to say it again. I've not contradict myself or make myself a hypocritical person. I assume, from your writings that you have read the (whole) Bible, so, you should know more than I do. You didn't even take a look what I've said. You just jumped into conclusion, assuming from your own "backlash" (?). I was just feeding off some information that you asked me.
You called me being hypocritical. But, make sure, you know how to use that term before you use it. Same thing with contradiction. I'm going to say it again. I've not contradict myself or make myself a hypocritical person. I assume, from your writings that you have read the (whole) Bible, so, you should know more than I do. You didn't even take a look what I've said. You just jumped into conclusion, assuming from your own "backlash" (?). I was just feeding off some information that you asked me.
Something I have learned (after being married), I was told, you DO NOT put out your angers on someone if they DID NOT reference your name. Even in the WORK FIELD, you have no rights to attack (verbally) someone even though they didn't mentioned your name. Unless, you just come from a broken environment or something, then, it's common. I still don't get it, why you're so upset at me when I was just informing you. I wasn't trying to be argumentive towards this conversation that we are having.
But.. You said you read the Bible. Then you should know that that came from the Bible. That Christians will always be picked on. Like I have said, I haven't read the whole Bible, but I do know that it's in the scripture. You should know more than I do. ;-)
@sakeness here u go again, still as hypocritical as ever. if u hadn't notice time and time again, I backlash in return becuz im offended by ur so called "perfect christian comments toward non christians. and ur right, christians do get pick on just as much as u christians called us non christians as "lost sheeps." perhaps u should read the new testament in the book of John. it's a wonderful book on who god really is and who true christians are.
@Sundincubus Haha. Thank you, I am flabbergasted at your comment on my comments being "perfect Christian comments". I never knew that my comments were "perfect Christian", although I do fall short. :-) I'm sorry, but, you claimed that Christians picked on non Christians as "Lost Sheep" (no 's') - do you often hear that? Haha. I am amazed that you heard that because I haven't heard it yet from where I am from. I don't even think many people heard of that, yet.
@Sundincubus I'm kind of confused on your reference about the Book of John. I read it when I was back in middle school. The Book of John proclaims the wonderful Good News of Jesus Christ and addresses to all the people of the world and reveals the glorious truth of Jesus Christ.
@sakeness continue4: now, in response to christians judging other religions or person: it is not the responsibility for a christian to judge. God says in Luke 6:37, "judge not, and u will not be judge: condemn not, and u will not be condemn; forgive, and u will be forgiven." "true christians" out to live by the word of God before they say or do anything. being a true christians doesnt make them better or perfect by any means. Im the first 2 say that cuz i know where i am at and what I do...
@Sundincubus I don't believe I've said Christians have the rights to judge other religions or person. In your defense, you're saying that it's not Christians job to judge, so, does that make it the same for others, too? Only Christians can not judge because the Bible say so? We know that it is innated in every person. One tries ones best just not to be too judgmental.
@sakeness continue from comment #4:...and im not even close to being what god wants me to be. just becuz a person isnt some1 of a christian faith that doesnt mean they dont believe in God. aside from being atheist, any non christians of their own religions believe in God. only that they have their own way of interpreting God thru their beliefs.
@Sundincubus No one is close to what God needs them to be. Everyone tries their best to be what he needs them to be. Remember, I did not claim myself to be perfect.
@sakeness continue5: In all, whether u believe I've read/went bible studying that's up to u. I could careless. if ur some1 with an open-mind and are curious to know my personal knowlege/opinions on why I believe Christianity and Shamanism has it's flaws and benefits, then perhaps I just might consider. However, if ur some1 who's in it for what some would say, "my god is better then ur god, and everything u say or do is wrong," then make this my last comment. -and good day 2 u.
@Sundincubus Honestly, I don't even know why you kept on thinking that I am thinking myself more superior than anyone. I NEVER said anything bad about anyone here (you kept on mentioning Non-Christians, I don't believe I did). My intentions weren't to BACKLASH or whatever you mean. I was just letting you know that. You called it contradiction, but, make sure you know that you, yourself, aren't contradicting then you're story will stay true. You tend to go back and forth with your story(ies).
@sakeness if I made it seem as im directing my attacks on u when I say "you christians," then u might have misunderstood me. this whole time that we argued I was refering the person who first made those remarks about non christians as lost sheeps. everytime when I said "you" i meant that person and those like him/her. and yes, ur right. maybe we both are hypocritical/contradictive . so let's leave it at that. and by the way, u also ask about pple calling me lost sheep; and the answer is yes!
@Sundincubus When you said you, you mean "you". If you're not isolating one person by his or herself, then you need to say "one"; so, in the future, you won't get people to misunderstand you. Argued? I wasn't, maybe, that's what you believed. I can tell from your responses, you didn't sound too happy. I wasn't contradicting myself or hypocritizing myself to begin with. I guess, some of my words were kept and some were left out.
@Sundincubus Lastly, sometimes people had to lie to make their statements true. *shrug Don't know why but does happen often. I did ask do you hear the term lost sheep often being used by Christians because you claimed to hear. I didn't ask if you were called a lost sheep. Hm. I think I can see the mistake here now. Remember, read all and know what's going on before responding. One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it.
@sakeness LOL ur so right when u say, "One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it." and the same can be said about u. what did u think i meant when i say ur comments are hypocritical? here u are preaching to me about why i have no right to criticize some1 bcuz my name wasnt mentioned. funny thing is i was criticizing some1 else. did i criticize u? no i didnt. last i check it was u who attack me first so u think about that.
@Sundincubus Whoever you are. I didn't attack you at the beginning. I think you need to go back and reread my comments. They are only for the goods. Since you were so upset at the term "Lost Sheep" I said that if you read the Bible then you will understand what it means. Obviously, some people who read the Bible, still don't understand what "it" intentionally need. I can't believe that after all of this, and you are still claiming that I was attacking you.
@sakeness But, I do assumme that you meant "teens". So, remember, teens are at the age where they are "growing/maturing". They are not the wisest people who people will seek advices from. But, they may know how to deal with their own peers better than anyone else (this doesn't go out to all). As one grows older, one becomes more wise. Teens are teens but they will eventually maturate.
@sakeness One can't say "Jimmy is a Christian, he needs to start acting like one or be one" and another one "Johnny isn't a Christian, he can do whatever he wants or likes". I mean, come on, this is like playing a childish game here. For EXAMPLE ONLY: "Teacher said that you were being bad because you didn't throw away your trash; but, I am not being bad even though I didn't throw away my trash". It makes no sense at all.
@sakeness Why are you going to point your finger at the Hmong Christian teens? Why not point at all people? Are they the only ones who have flaws? Again, it doesn't make sense. Everyone has their flaws, whether if the person is a religious person or not. Period. It just takes time to know what is right or wrong (or should I say the norm?) OR maturate.
@sakeness maybe i should retrace ur comments. but then again u should also retrace my comments too. did I say christian teens have flaws? no i didnt. what I've said in my comments about my christian teens are just bits n peaces of it. However, i did say, thru my personal experiences attending sunday study and personal interpretations of the bible vs Shamanism it has led me to believe in my personal opinion both christianity and shamanism have its flaws and benefits. what's so hard about it?
@Sundincubus By all means, Lady. You already DID trace my comments or so to say, quoted me. I requoted what you and I had said only. I make sure I correct them. I don't know why you can't see that you that. Again, go back and read ALL my comments, I don't mind at all. You misunderstood me from the beginnig because you didn't read my comments carefully only.
@Sundincubus Your response should have been answered by my previous comments. I'm not going to answer them again because even if I do, something always comes up. Personal interpretations of the Bible-not a good idea. I used to think my personal interpretation of the Bible is the same interpretation as what it means but it wasn't. Because back then, I had the same attitude as you, being egocentric on certain matters; but, I have learned, not all things are what I expected.
@Sundincubus I wasn't trying to attack you. I didn't even say that you were attacking me. I didn't even point my finger at you for being the bad person here. Remember, you called me being "hypocritical as ever" and you admitted that the reason you backlash in return was and I quoted "becuz im offended by ur so called "perfect christian comments toward non christians".
@Sundincubus Thank you for turning my words back at me because that just shows me that you are a very stubborn person (the quote "One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it"). I can tell you this, I think before I write this, why? Because I don't want to put myself in the hot seat (which I am, probably). Ha. I make sure I choose my words carefully and "how" I should use/say them.
@Sundincubus You mentioned about criticism. Again, I didn't say that you can't criticize people. My quote that you requoted me "One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it" read it CAREFULLY and tell me what it means. It means, for example, if my mother-in-law say, at a party, that there's this one nyab who is so lazy and doesn't do much but my mother-in-law couldn't put a name on that person.
This is for the mother-in-law example: So should I say "WTF, I am not F* lazy, B*!" NO! I should just listen and say "Maybe that's just rumors, we don't live with them and we don't know them well." Now, what you are saying is that I am telling you that you can't criticize--go back and read it again (the quote).
@Sundincubus No no no no no no no no. I was not referring to you when I said "Sometimes people had to lie". Did you not see the word "people"? I didn't say "you". And, I do see you have an attitude, too. I can't believe that after my super long comments and you still don't get what my intentions are for. Of course, I don't know if what you've said to me is all true, but I take your words for it.
@Sundincubus You said "it's something I experience growing up with my hmong christian teens. some of our pple dont know how to be a christian. they only know how to be what a hmong christian is". To be honest, I kind of got lost at what you're trying to say here. Because you went off tangent here. So, if you get a chance, maybe you can rephrase that then maybe I'll understand it better. Maybe, I can imply it, but, then again, I don't want my implication to be wrong from yours.
@sakeness reply #2: when u say, sometimes people lie"...u must be refering to me becuz i dont see anybody else ur writing to here. if u got something to say, say it. dont act all innocent and candy-coating everything. when pple do that it just made them more of a hypocrite. whether u believe me or not that's ur opinion. it's something I experience growing up with my hmong christian teens. some of our pple dont know how to be a christian. they only know how to be what a hmong christian is.
@Sundincubus Again, I was informing and answering you from the start. I wasn't trying to be superior than you, again. I just found it kind of funny that you mentioned things that I did not and you just assumed that I've said them. For example, a prosecutor can't put a defendant on trial if he/she doesn't have concrete evidence to withhold that defendant accountable for it.
It's not how Christians behave, it's already the norm for other people to pick on them. It's true that Christianity is one of those religion that will always be picked on. I'm not misconducting myself. I'm just presenting you the fact. Just like in America, racial discriminations are still here. Now, why is it all right when someone mentioned racial discriminations, however, isn't considered bad behavior; but, mentioning what I've mentioned is considered bad behavior?
Either way, I'm glad you mentioned "God Bless". Because, remember that story you told me about the drug dealers, why they carry crosses and are active at church. Then, why do people say God Bless? But, then bash on Him and his children.
@sakeness continue3: and when I say, "God bless," I didnt say it like what 1 christian would say to another christian. I was only being nice. and if being nice has some how offended u then i guess not even god can appease u.
@Sundincubus :-) I'm glad you pointed that out, because you did asked me about those drug dealers. I, honestly, can't answer that, but you did with your response. I never said I was offended too, again. :-)
I am definitely a sinner day by day. I never claimed to be perfect. Only He is perfect. I was born as a sinner and will always be one. I think you must have forgotten that during your Bible schooling. But, wait, you have already read the Bible; so, you probably know that but just forgotten to mention that. ;-) I don't need to explain that part to you. But, you still implied that quote (from that person) as if only non-believers are sinners.
In your arguments before, you specifically named a group multiple times. Have you not noticed that you mainly talked about "Christians" being here and there? I told you before, I've never bashed at your religion. All I heard from you was "Christians here and Christians there" (their flaws). What about your flaws?
@sakeness continue2: if ur able to just turn the other cheek when people talk down upon a whole group then i'd say ur a bigger person then i am; which brings up my next question, if ur the bigger person and are not easily offened by others with their comments and eventough, those comments is not directed toward u or pointing at u, why are we even having this discussion in the first place then? talk about contradiction..
OMG. i love the music..the vocal was great. but it could use a little bit more strength to match the rock music. btw, loved the lyrics even though it included tht religious part. i respect tht.=)
In closing of my opinion, I have never practice either the New Religion or the Old Hmong Practice since I was a teenager. Never do anything with religion and I am living free like the bird flying in the air. Don't have to worry about God or Dab. But for those who believe in those 2 religions they either Ua Neeb ib xyoos 2-3 zaug thov Dab or thov Vajtswv tsis txawj tsum. That's so WRONG!!!!! WHY STICK those STUPID THINGS IN YOUR HEAD? They are none sense stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@911XFILE Obviously from your comments, you don't believe either one of them. But, you tend to slander Christianity mostly. I don't know if you have seen miracles before, but, people had -through Christ and his apostles, we know so. I think if you get yourself more educated in religion then maybe you will understand why people choose to follow one or more religion. Remember, this country was build through freedom of religion because the pilgrims were being prosecuted back in the old country. ;-)
For those Hmong people who believe in Christian, they are so outrageous, because they can't eat those Old Hmong practice's food. Foods have nothing to do with religion. That's so stupid!!!!!! Not that I am believing the Old Hmong Practice. These things turned me away from religion, doesn't matter what kind of Religions. They all fake. If I am offend anyone in here, please don't response I will not read your comment. Thank you. God bless nobody!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who care, God is nothing. The rule of thumb is try to do the best you can while you still alive. Thanks for Mom and Dad for giving you a life not God, because God is not real. But, your daddy and mommy is real alright.
Only those who weak mind believe in religion, because they can't stand alone to fight the odd and unknown that may sometimes come in their ways. I am 100% believe that religion is a form of mind controlling substance. Nobody has ever returned from heaven to tell us that god exist. Don't waste time serving God, because God can never help you.
@xSuperDeeXx LOL maybe ur right, those who believe in ur lord jesus christ- even those who committed horrible act/crimes and yet has some how became a christianize while they're serving time in prison will get to go to heaven. and those who hadnt even hurt a fly will go to hell..all becuz they dont believe in ur jesus christ. that my friend is a religion im proud not to be part of. if im in hell so be it. at least im not with all those child molester/rapist/killers in ur so-called heaven.LOL
Love this song! Love the sound of the instruments. May God bless the group in composing His words into songs to praise Him! Continue to do God's works for your reward will be the life in eternity. We need great singer and great band to reach the world. May God bless you!
@xSuperDeeXx LOL "Lost sheeps" u say. I respect all religions but when some1 like yourself ignorantly slam/labeled my beliefs as being nothing more than a lost animal aka savages then I have an obligation to disrespect u in return. So, becuz u called yourself a christian does that make u more civilize/better than us? dont make me laugh. people like u make christianity look bad.
@Sundincubus - Hey, I don't know what "beliefs" you believe and I don't know if you have taken any religion courses, too. Also, if you DO read the Bible, then you will understand what "Lost Sheep" (Have you not heard of idioms?) is or where it came from. You mentioned that you are someone who respects all religions. Just because someone disrespect you that you should disrespect that person back. For example, you mother yells at you infront of your friends, are you going to disrespect her?
@sakeness to answer ur question, my family is shamanism and yes, I attended sunday schools when I was a teen from 5th to 7th grade. even if i dont believe in it I still want to learn what it's about. I've read the bible and yes, the bible did mention of any1 who doesnt believe in the name of christ is labeled as a lost sheep. However, the bible also taught about respecting others who chooses not to believe. it's about tolerance.
@Sundincubus I'm glad that you took your time to learn. I just want to point out that you mentioned that if someone disrepects you (religion) then you will disrespect them back. You can say that you kind of got out of hand when you heard "Lost Sheep". Now, and you just got done explaining to me what Lost Sheep was. Why put so much anger into it? Instead of trying to retaliate one another, one should just say "Thank you, I appreciate your opinion". Since you're talking about "tolerance".
@sakeness when some1 esp. people who're deeply religious glorify themselves by saying their path is the right path and any non believers are just ignorant lost souls aka lost sheep/savages. christians use the term "lost sheep" to candy-coat their harsh criticizing of any non believers. we all know this is the true intent behind why christians fought muslims for centuries...and why they sent missionaries all over the world...-"to tame savages/make them become civilize."
@Sundincubus Um.. I think you got your fact wrong. Just want to let you know that. You mentioned that you went Bible schooling. Well, I think when you went there, you probably didnt learn much then, just based on your response. You still don't know what Lost Sheep means. You get it mixed up with savages, etc.. Using it wrong. I thought you knew, but, now, I know you don't know what it is. You pretty much indirectly/directly implied your response to Christians. I understand.
@sakeness maybe it's u who misunderstood. bible study is a sunday session for teens to attend church and read the bible with extra physical ed on the side. I never said anything about doing research. AND YES, I'VE READ THE BIBLE. so, if I have different views then my beliefs are wrong? So typical of u chrisitians. there's nothing any1 of christian faith have said that will shock me. u people seem to know it all.
@sakeness continue from last comment:..and whats this u keep saying about needing2 read the bible to understand where/why things are here and there?" dont even go there. we're not debating over evolution vs creation. we're talking about non believers AKA "lost sheeps" vs believers who seem2 know it all. and like u said, im wrong regardless becuz i dont share the same belief u do.in my view every religion has its flaws and im happy to say christianity is a religion im proud not 2b in that's all.
@Sundincubus Don't worried. I have come across many people who have said they read the Bible, but, still don't get the gists of it. Sorry, I never pointed out that Christians know it all, it's YOUR words - not mines. We don't go around saying we know it all. It's YOU who THINKS we do. Bible study isn't just for teens, miss. I never told you to do a research. I told you to get your facts right before you start to say things. Haven't your mother/father/friends/teachers/coaches taught you that?
@Sundincubus The only time you will be wrong in my eyes if you don't understand people and where they are coming from. I never slandered, not even once, at your religion. And, look at you, you did more than twice (my religion). Now, am I the bad person here? If so, then, I apologize. People are always talking about Christians (in a bad way) here and there, but, they don't realize that many organizations were created by these (Christians) that helped and will help many people who are in need.
@Sundincubus Since you understood that every religion has its flaws then you should be more understanding of others. I'm pretty sure, if I were to say something bad about your religion, you wouldn't be too happy about it. Because, you probably can not tolerate the bs that people have to say about your religion. For example, I'm at home, someone comes and yells at me and tells me I'm a bunch of bs because of my religion. What would I say? Thank you.
@sakeness and if u know about understanding and backlashing then why are we even having this conversation? do u not know i backlash at that some1 becuz he descriminately put a non christian like me down. and I quote," look at all these lost sheep and their comments. it's our job to bring them to the right path." and that was being nice ok. but what he's really saying is: "look at all these sinners/savages. becuz our way is the right way we must free them from their ignorants/sins."
@sakeness continue from last comment: now, let me ask u, is this anyway to behave like christians do? by putting people down with their belief and when people backlash then it's "oh, im being bully and ostracize for bringing the good lord to show them the right path." listen, becuz this lazy atheist idiot 911XFILE bad mouthing religions dont assume im like that becuz though, im shamanism..im neither on both sides. im idenpendent and know both sides got its flaws. hope u understand. -god bless
@Sundincubus When that person said that, he/she didn't named you. I'm pretty sure, that's your implication of what he/she said about that quote. Remember, you read the Bible. You should know who are the sinners. But, you don't. That surprises me that you don't know who they are when you said that you read the Bible.
@sakeness continue 1: and even if that person didnt named me, is it obvious what he/she's trying to say? it's not what was said, it's the content in which the word was said that's offensive. for instance, if a bunch of opinions made by others in here saying christians are this christians are that, are u not obligated to voice ur opinions in return becuz u feel their comments were wrong? or are u just gonna turn the other chin becuz they didnt' named u therefore, it's not directed toward u?
@Sundincubus Like I have told 911XFILE, since he said he have also read the Bible. Then he should know that Christians will always be judged in a bad way. People will always pick on Christians, trying to bring out their (Christians) flaws and hide their flaws. You read the Bible, you should know that, too. There's nothing that will surprise you, yet. Since, you know that, why be a part of that bully group.
@sakeness continue from last comment..and the reason I disrespect them back is becuz throughout my years of attending bible school I find certain aspect of christianity to be so contradictory. let me give u 1 example, there're those I know that are the biggest gangbangers/drug dealers/runaways...who're all fire-up on sundays but remain an invisible christian for the rest of the week. selling drugs/gangbanging..and some even wears crosses on their chest to represent their loyalty to christ.
@Sundincubus You are those many people who just based the Bible/Christians just on one or few scriptures. You need to read the whole Bible to understand where/why things are here and there. Please don't tell me that you have read it all, too. Even I have not read the whole Bible. Someone who reads it and studies the Words would know what's behind it. I'm sorry to say this but, you need to check your facts first then make your assumptions.
@Sundincubus Also, I replied to 911XFILE. If you want, you can ask him for my response. I'm sure he's a good guy who can forward my response to you; so, you can read what I have said to him. ;-). Now, don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be superior here, I just want people to hear/see what I have to say. That's all.
hmmm. .. . i think they can go bigger if they dont sing about jesus lol liked the begining also. . but then. .. ahhh. .. the rest of the song. . not so much haha
To all hmong people. December 21st, 2012 is the day the son of man comes to reaps the harvest the seeds he'd sown 2000 years ago. Those who don't have the name of the father aand the son marked on their foreheads will be cut down and destroyed, only those who have will remained on earth. Please tell everyones to go to church now to repent for their sins while there is still times left. If you don't be;ieve me, check out saint Malachy's prophecies; Benedict the 16 is the last pope we have
Forget all the negative comments that are left here but only focus on God. Your music is not meant for mankind but for God. My pastor had a very good sermon on how our people are and how we forgot that we have come onto the promise land by God's will. He brought us here by other believers who had strong faith in him and that they may allow us to go back and save our people who are being prosecuted.
Don't matter as long they're dedicated to Jesus. Remember there are Christian Rap, Hip Hop, Country, Rock, Alternative, Emo, R&B, and etc. Everyone sings according to their beliefs. We can't just all have regular music. Christian Music is a very inspriational to a lot of Christian people. If sum of ya can't listen to Christian music, oh well, you just have to live with it. AMEN!
The music and song sounds good, yeah until the jesus thing, but thats okay, cuz everyone has their own belief. They can sing about anything they want, but seriously, if they want to make money for their album, they do have too and really need to stop singing about it!!! ... People get quite offended...lol
@REPLYASURFAN What's wrong with the Jesus part? Obviously you are not listening to the lyrics! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life! Rock on Holy Thunder and keep praising God for He is Good!
don't be angry my Hmong brothers and sisters. we need to love one another regardless of what choices one has made. that's our gift of free will. what you choose is yours to choose. but search for the truth and the truth will set you free. Don't let the love end with you. God bless our Hmong people.
Ok my honest opinion here... I really really like the band. The bass player, keyboard, drummer, and especially the shredder guitarist. But let's be true, can we here some boy friend, girl friend rock songs too? Absolutely nothing against Christian Rock but sometimes relationship depression gets in our way and we would need to releave by listening to other topics. Just my opinion... Rock on Holy Thunder!
this band is hecka bad ass man.. hella love thhem just as good as American.
mikov2525 1 month ago
hey@PvangEntertainment where can i get to buy there song?
kuvhlubkoj559 1 month ago
zoo nraug dhau zog,hahaha
xai103 3 months ago
I mean from which state.
kseahtoo1500 3 months ago
เพลงนี้เพราะมาก ซึ้งๆๆๆๆๆๆๆๆๆ
MySunee 4 months ago
Anyone know Where this band from?
kseahtoo1500 4 months ago
@kseahtoo1500 We are from Thailand
Lee19811000 3 months ago
nice songs..holy thunder . love the guitar cords
BboyNoLover 4 months ago
nice songs..holy thunder
BboyNoLover 4 months ago
if anything happens to you listen christian music or read gods words, i believe that'll clear your mind.
maiyayang1 4 months ago
Nice Band, Laib Laus follower* GOod* Why they broke like this
lonelyskyg09 4 months ago
i'm heart broken can you help haha j/k. "ask and thou shall receive, seek and thou shall find". this band is great and most other bands are great also. we the HMONG ppl are great that's why we all over the world. we speak almost every language on this planet but not not every person on this planet speaks HMONG. GOD bless. Keep up th great work. i am HMONG and will always be. so stop hatin'. keep the peace. take care of yourself and your family.
MrPaoxiong 5 months ago
i swear all christians are gifted with a talent
retuber123 7 months ago
I absolutely agree with "apie07" on her/his comment. Christian or not, you should listen to a healthy christian song when you're heart broken because it heals the soul. Dont go listening to a nonchristian song that break your heart even more and then it may even drive you to do stupid things. God bless.
Hmonglady1 7 months ago
the singing does not goes well with the music. bad taste.
ncukuvtus 7 months ago
@ncukuvtus
it's not bad taste...it's perfect taste. Any kind of song can go with any kind of music as long as the singer is talented. Broaden your perspective in music before you judge and say it's not good.
Aulora817 4 months ago
love the "TRUE" wording in this song..... keep up the good work, and share the Lord message.....
summerchaJohn316 8 months ago
I'm not trying to hate but why do Hmong people always come up with corny ass band name holy thunder lol come on you can do better
cypressst3708 8 months ago
Lee Xiong the lead singer of this band always have spiritual meanings in his songs even before he created Holy Thunder. He used to be a screamo lead singer in this band called "Howl" and his lyrics were really spiritual in both Godlike/Satanic way. This guy is a gifted musician.
daoyinyang 9 months ago
I am not a christian but I absolutely love this song. I think that there are too many songs that are about love, heart breaks. It's enough. I think that this is very nice song. I think for those who are heart broken should listen to songs like this instead of those mob siab songs, it makes it worst. You need some songs like this to better the soul. I love it.
apie07 9 months ago 4
Dude enough arguing aha this song is tight! That's all I care about :)
juneyang1 10 months ago
Isn't that the guitarist of Lais Laus? Lais Laus broke up or what?
ChangGang 11 months ago
@ChangGang Laib laus got better musicians playing in his band now.
daoyinyang 10 months ago
Wow! Nice! I think the first Hmong Christian band was Stone Plantation I saw by mpdrep001, but this one's great, too. Like to see some live performance. God bless, keep it up.
moxeyist 11 months ago
Wow! Nice! I think the Hmong MPD band Stone Plantation by mpdrep001 was the first Hmong rock band I've ever seen but this one is great, too! Keep it up! God bless!
moxeyist 11 months ago
Ua tsaug rua mej mog, ua vaajtswv tsaug mej txujkev hu nkauj hab txhawj zuj..zaaj nkauj zoo kawg le...
lexie2011ful 11 months ago
hello, i love the music you guys played... how do i go about buying your CD
chuethoj79 11 months ago
thought i drop by and shout out that we are back... Come and check out our demos.
Thanks,
PZ
Phantomzone4 1 year ago
i don't mind others being christian, as long as respect is still shown, i'll show the same back, thats all that matters, Nice day =)
peterlauj222 1 year ago
This is one point why we fight. We fight for sh!t... Not for importants, but for sh!t... I don't give a shit if you a christian or shaman. We're hmong so STFU. Believe what what the fuck you want to believe and stop the hate. Even if you believe that having sex is against your religious or believes, thats your own decision to believe. Shouldn't bother anyone at all. If anything another person do and it bothers you then you must be a dumb mutherfucker.
hangc10 1 year ago
people like you the reason why we hmong don't have a country always gotta HATE!!!!
fengfuechi 1 year ago
people like you that's why we don't have a country always gotta HATE!!!!!
fengfuechi 1 year ago
god didn't give them talent they learn it them selves by hard work gods a fake bu im not tryn to hate because i believe in my religion stay true to my HMONG people
Other HMONG people who believe in other religion other than SHAMEN ur a fake HMONG get out n stop being HMONG because u r not true HMONG
TsoTauRaum93 1 year ago
@TsoTauRaum93 Please define what true Hmong is, if you could. It's Shaman, not Shamen.
sakeness 1 year ago
@TsoTauRaum93 Brother, not to get into a argument or so..but from my experience..the Hmong traditional way are similar to the Christian in the old time.here a clue.the bible if you haven't read..has to 2 parts..1st.. they call Old testament and 2nd New Testament.
Ex.
Hmong sacrifices animal for what ever the problems...People in the bible sacrifices animal as well for their sin...asking forgiveness from God. Hmong story about the flood. Bible has that. 1st man and women. Bible has that.
jlinek 1 year ago
F U K y all hmong christian..dont mean shit stupid ass..be a real hmong FKER..
jeanpaulvang 1 year ago
@jeanpaulvang Sorry, who are you to judge what a real Hmong is? If you want to be a real Hmong, please don't speak English then.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness I'm sorry, I shouldn't have said "If you want to be a real Hmong". I should have said "If you are a real Hmong, please don't speak English then".
sakeness 1 year ago
God made man small and the universe big to say something about Himself. And He says it for us to learn and enjoy-namely, that He is infinitely great and powerful, wise, and beautiful. Glory to His name!
nchaiv 1 year ago
god bless!
1SwtCouple 1 year ago
Hey Brothers, Great job! Though I don't understand a word you say in this song, I could worship with you in spirit. KEEP IT UP!!!
kaoonlapionz 1 year ago
Why is it that on all Christian music youtube videos, there's ALWAYS, ALWAYS, ALWAYS an argument about whether or not Jesus Christ exists? It's completely ridiculous. Praise God if you wish, if not then don't leave a rude comment. -Have a blessed day.
SuperSarahlina 1 year ago 17
@SuperSarahlina After i read your comment i fell in love with it
daoyinyang 11 months ago
@SuperSarahlina
Amen to that. God loves us.
Lucaslo120 5 months ago
@SuperSarahlina TRUE
mouavangpao 4 months ago
OMG 5/5 for the song! but try some love songs :D
liskiddo 1 year ago
awesome!
legomiegos 1 year ago
For the believers: continue to rock on and believe.
For the non believers: continue to listen, if not the lyrics atleast the music.
Great music & lyrics all around. Thanks for the song!
phoenixrogue25 1 year ago
Good shit fellas...way to throw it down for the hmong rockers....i'm loving it.
Keep it up!
hmongcanadian 1 year ago
very good
HmongGuitarPlayer 1 year ago
It's all right. I understand you. I'm kind of getting tired anyways. Lol.
sakeness 1 year ago
You mentioned about your opinions/knowledge.. I understand that one is obligated to one's opinions. I wasn't trying to be offensive here. I was just informing and answering, again. I don't know if you went study Bible- I was just correcting you on that study Bible isn't just for young teens- I can only know what you've told me.
sakeness 1 year ago
You called me being hypocritical. But, make sure, you know how to use that term before you use it. Same thing with contradiction. I'm going to say it again. I've not contradict myself or make myself a hypocritical person. I assume, from your writings that you have read the (whole) Bible, so, you should know more than I do. You didn't even take a look what I've said. You just jumped into conclusion, assuming from your own "backlash" (?). I was just feeding off some information that you asked me.
sakeness 1 year ago
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You called me being hypocritical. But, make sure, you know how to use that term before you use it. Same thing with contradiction. I'm going to say it again. I've not contradict myself or make myself a hypocritical person. I assume, from your writings that you have read the (whole) Bible, so, you should know more than I do. You didn't even take a look what I've said. You just jumped into conclusion, assuming from your own "backlash" (?). I was just feeding off some information that you asked me.
sakeness 1 year ago
Something I have learned (after being married), I was told, you DO NOT put out your angers on someone if they DID NOT reference your name. Even in the WORK FIELD, you have no rights to attack (verbally) someone even though they didn't mentioned your name. Unless, you just come from a broken environment or something, then, it's common. I still don't get it, why you're so upset at me when I was just informing you. I wasn't trying to be argumentive towards this conversation that we are having.
sakeness 1 year ago
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where is this band based out from?
rcaraska 1 year ago
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rcaraska 1 year ago
But.. You said you read the Bible. Then you should know that that came from the Bible. That Christians will always be picked on. Like I have said, I haven't read the whole Bible, but I do know that it's in the scripture. You should know more than I do. ;-)
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness here u go again, still as hypocritical as ever. if u hadn't notice time and time again, I backlash in return becuz im offended by ur so called "perfect christian comments toward non christians. and ur right, christians do get pick on just as much as u christians called us non christians as "lost sheeps." perhaps u should read the new testament in the book of John. it's a wonderful book on who god really is and who true christians are.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Haha. Thank you, I am flabbergasted at your comment on my comments being "perfect Christian comments". I never knew that my comments were "perfect Christian", although I do fall short. :-) I'm sorry, but, you claimed that Christians picked on non Christians as "Lost Sheep" (no 's') - do you often hear that? Haha. I am amazed that you heard that because I haven't heard it yet from where I am from. I don't even think many people heard of that, yet.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus I'm kind of confused on your reference about the Book of John. I read it when I was back in middle school. The Book of John proclaims the wonderful Good News of Jesus Christ and addresses to all the people of the world and reveals the glorious truth of Jesus Christ.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue4: now, in response to christians judging other religions or person: it is not the responsibility for a christian to judge. God says in Luke 6:37, "judge not, and u will not be judge: condemn not, and u will not be condemn; forgive, and u will be forgiven." "true christians" out to live by the word of God before they say or do anything. being a true christians doesnt make them better or perfect by any means. Im the first 2 say that cuz i know where i am at and what I do...
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus I don't believe I've said Christians have the rights to judge other religions or person. In your defense, you're saying that it's not Christians job to judge, so, does that make it the same for others, too? Only Christians can not judge because the Bible say so? We know that it is innated in every person. One tries ones best just not to be too judgmental.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue from comment #4:...and im not even close to being what god wants me to be. just becuz a person isnt some1 of a christian faith that doesnt mean they dont believe in God. aside from being atheist, any non christians of their own religions believe in God. only that they have their own way of interpreting God thru their beliefs.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus No one is close to what God needs them to be. Everyone tries their best to be what he needs them to be. Remember, I did not claim myself to be perfect.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue5: In all, whether u believe I've read/went bible studying that's up to u. I could careless. if ur some1 with an open-mind and are curious to know my personal knowlege/opinions on why I believe Christianity and Shamanism has it's flaws and benefits, then perhaps I just might consider. However, if ur some1 who's in it for what some would say, "my god is better then ur god, and everything u say or do is wrong," then make this my last comment. -and good day 2 u.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Honestly, I don't even know why you kept on thinking that I am thinking myself more superior than anyone. I NEVER said anything bad about anyone here (you kept on mentioning Non-Christians, I don't believe I did). My intentions weren't to BACKLASH or whatever you mean. I was just letting you know that. You called it contradiction, but, make sure you know that you, yourself, aren't contradicting then you're story will stay true. You tend to go back and forth with your story(ies).
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness if I made it seem as im directing my attacks on u when I say "you christians," then u might have misunderstood me. this whole time that we argued I was refering the person who first made those remarks about non christians as lost sheeps. everytime when I said "you" i meant that person and those like him/her. and yes, ur right. maybe we both are hypocritical/contradictive . so let's leave it at that. and by the way, u also ask about pple calling me lost sheep; and the answer is yes!
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus When you said you, you mean "you". If you're not isolating one person by his or herself, then you need to say "one"; so, in the future, you won't get people to misunderstand you. Argued? I wasn't, maybe, that's what you believed. I can tell from your responses, you didn't sound too happy. I wasn't contradicting myself or hypocritizing myself to begin with. I guess, some of my words were kept and some were left out.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Lastly, sometimes people had to lie to make their statements true. *shrug Don't know why but does happen often. I did ask do you hear the term lost sheep often being used by Christians because you claimed to hear. I didn't ask if you were called a lost sheep. Hm. I think I can see the mistake here now. Remember, read all and know what's going on before responding. One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness LOL ur so right when u say, "One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it." and the same can be said about u. what did u think i meant when i say ur comments are hypocritical? here u are preaching to me about why i have no right to criticize some1 bcuz my name wasnt mentioned. funny thing is i was criticizing some1 else. did i criticize u? no i didnt. last i check it was u who attack me first so u think about that.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Whoever you are. I didn't attack you at the beginning. I think you need to go back and reread my comments. They are only for the goods. Since you were so upset at the term "Lost Sheep" I said that if you read the Bible then you will understand what it means. Obviously, some people who read the Bible, still don't understand what "it" intentionally need. I can't believe that after all of this, and you are still claiming that I was attacking you.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness But, I do assumme that you meant "teens". So, remember, teens are at the age where they are "growing/maturing". They are not the wisest people who people will seek advices from. But, they may know how to deal with their own peers better than anyone else (this doesn't go out to all). As one grows older, one becomes more wise. Teens are teens but they will eventually maturate.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness One can't say "Jimmy is a Christian, he needs to start acting like one or be one" and another one "Johnny isn't a Christian, he can do whatever he wants or likes". I mean, come on, this is like playing a childish game here. For EXAMPLE ONLY: "Teacher said that you were being bad because you didn't throw away your trash; but, I am not being bad even though I didn't throw away my trash". It makes no sense at all.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness Why are you going to point your finger at the Hmong Christian teens? Why not point at all people? Are they the only ones who have flaws? Again, it doesn't make sense. Everyone has their flaws, whether if the person is a religious person or not. Period. It just takes time to know what is right or wrong (or should I say the norm?) OR maturate.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness maybe i should retrace ur comments. but then again u should also retrace my comments too. did I say christian teens have flaws? no i didnt. what I've said in my comments about my christian teens are just bits n peaces of it. However, i did say, thru my personal experiences attending sunday study and personal interpretations of the bible vs Shamanism it has led me to believe in my personal opinion both christianity and shamanism have its flaws and benefits. what's so hard about it?
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus By all means, Lady. You already DID trace my comments or so to say, quoted me. I requoted what you and I had said only. I make sure I correct them. I don't know why you can't see that you that. Again, go back and read ALL my comments, I don't mind at all. You misunderstood me from the beginnig because you didn't read my comments carefully only.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Your response should have been answered by my previous comments. I'm not going to answer them again because even if I do, something always comes up. Personal interpretations of the Bible-not a good idea. I used to think my personal interpretation of the Bible is the same interpretation as what it means but it wasn't. Because back then, I had the same attitude as you, being egocentric on certain matters; but, I have learned, not all things are what I expected.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Thank you for your comments, I appreciated. This was a great journey. :-)
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus I wasn't trying to attack you. I didn't even say that you were attacking me. I didn't even point my finger at you for being the bad person here. Remember, you called me being "hypocritical as ever" and you admitted that the reason you backlash in return was and I quoted "becuz im offended by ur so called "perfect christian comments toward non christians".
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Thank you for turning my words back at me because that just shows me that you are a very stubborn person (the quote "One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it"). I can tell you this, I think before I write this, why? Because I don't want to put myself in the hot seat (which I am, probably). Ha. I make sure I choose my words carefully and "how" I should use/say them.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus You mentioned about criticism. Again, I didn't say that you can't criticize people. My quote that you requoted me "One thinks before one speaks/writes. If your name wasn't mentioned, then you can't do anything about it" read it CAREFULLY and tell me what it means. It means, for example, if my mother-in-law say, at a party, that there's this one nyab who is so lazy and doesn't do much but my mother-in-law couldn't put a name on that person.
sakeness 1 year ago
This is for the mother-in-law example: So should I say "WTF, I am not F* lazy, B*!" NO! I should just listen and say "Maybe that's just rumors, we don't live with them and we don't know them well." Now, what you are saying is that I am telling you that you can't criticize--go back and read it again (the quote).
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus No no no no no no no no. I was not referring to you when I said "Sometimes people had to lie". Did you not see the word "people"? I didn't say "you". And, I do see you have an attitude, too. I can't believe that after my super long comments and you still don't get what my intentions are for. Of course, I don't know if what you've said to me is all true, but I take your words for it.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus You said "it's something I experience growing up with my hmong christian teens. some of our pple dont know how to be a christian. they only know how to be what a hmong christian is". To be honest, I kind of got lost at what you're trying to say here. Because you went off tangent here. So, if you get a chance, maybe you can rephrase that then maybe I'll understand it better. Maybe, I can imply it, but, then again, I don't want my implication to be wrong from yours.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness reply #2: when u say, sometimes people lie"...u must be refering to me becuz i dont see anybody else ur writing to here. if u got something to say, say it. dont act all innocent and candy-coating everything. when pple do that it just made them more of a hypocrite. whether u believe me or not that's ur opinion. it's something I experience growing up with my hmong christian teens. some of our pple dont know how to be a christian. they only know how to be what a hmong christian is.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Again, I was informing and answering you from the start. I wasn't trying to be superior than you, again. I just found it kind of funny that you mentioned things that I did not and you just assumed that I've said them. For example, a prosecutor can't put a defendant on trial if he/she doesn't have concrete evidence to withhold that defendant accountable for it.
sakeness 1 year ago
It's not how Christians behave, it's already the norm for other people to pick on them. It's true that Christianity is one of those religion that will always be picked on. I'm not misconducting myself. I'm just presenting you the fact. Just like in America, racial discriminations are still here. Now, why is it all right when someone mentioned racial discriminations, however, isn't considered bad behavior; but, mentioning what I've mentioned is considered bad behavior?
sakeness 1 year ago
Either way, I'm glad you mentioned "God Bless". Because, remember that story you told me about the drug dealers, why they carry crosses and are active at church. Then, why do people say God Bless? But, then bash on Him and his children.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue3: and when I say, "God bless," I didnt say it like what 1 christian would say to another christian. I was only being nice. and if being nice has some how offended u then i guess not even god can appease u.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus :-) I'm glad you pointed that out, because you did asked me about those drug dealers. I, honestly, can't answer that, but you did with your response. I never said I was offended too, again. :-)
sakeness 1 year ago
I am definitely a sinner day by day. I never claimed to be perfect. Only He is perfect. I was born as a sinner and will always be one. I think you must have forgotten that during your Bible schooling. But, wait, you have already read the Bible; so, you probably know that but just forgotten to mention that. ;-) I don't need to explain that part to you. But, you still implied that quote (from that person) as if only non-believers are sinners.
sakeness 1 year ago
In your arguments before, you specifically named a group multiple times. Have you not noticed that you mainly talked about "Christians" being here and there? I told you before, I've never bashed at your religion. All I heard from you was "Christians here and Christians there" (their flaws). What about your flaws?
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue2: if ur able to just turn the other cheek when people talk down upon a whole group then i'd say ur a bigger person then i am; which brings up my next question, if ur the bigger person and are not easily offened by others with their comments and eventough, those comments is not directed toward u or pointing at u, why are we even having this discussion in the first place then? talk about contradiction..
Sundincubus 1 year ago
OMG. i love the music..the vocal was great. but it could use a little bit more strength to match the rock music. btw, loved the lyrics even though it included tht religious part. i respect tht.=)
chaihlubmaivhnub 1 year ago
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chaihlubmaivhnub 1 year ago
wow nice song.....
Maiv29 1 year ago
Try to sing another song without Jesus.. :)
sing at the same way ur band did now...
but jst change the Jesus, heee..
but this is still grat!!! keep it up...
hmong9 1 year ago
hahahahah their hair looks shooped
hardboiled89 1 year ago
Yeah !!! Great Job !
Greetings and Blessings from Germany ....
huenny 1 year ago
i listen to the devils music and gods music cause they rock!!!
visualkeirockstar 1 year ago
Amazing! Praise the Lord! Great job guys! ;)
Gorgeouscece 1 year ago
In closing of my opinion, I have never practice either the New Religion or the Old Hmong Practice since I was a teenager. Never do anything with religion and I am living free like the bird flying in the air. Don't have to worry about God or Dab. But for those who believe in those 2 religions they either Ua Neeb ib xyoos 2-3 zaug thov Dab or thov Vajtswv tsis txawj tsum. That's so WRONG!!!!! WHY STICK those STUPID THINGS IN YOUR HEAD? They are none sense stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
911XFILE 1 year ago
@911XFILE Obviously from your comments, you don't believe either one of them. But, you tend to slander Christianity mostly. I don't know if you have seen miracles before, but, people had -through Christ and his apostles, we know so. I think if you get yourself more educated in religion then maybe you will understand why people choose to follow one or more religion. Remember, this country was build through freedom of religion because the pilgrims were being prosecuted back in the old country. ;-)
sakeness 1 year ago
For those Hmong people who believe in Christian, they are so outrageous, because they can't eat those Old Hmong practice's food. Foods have nothing to do with religion. That's so stupid!!!!!! Not that I am believing the Old Hmong Practice. These things turned me away from religion, doesn't matter what kind of Religions. They all fake. If I am offend anyone in here, please don't response I will not read your comment. Thank you. God bless nobody!!!!!!!!!!!!
911XFILE 1 year ago
Who care, God is nothing. The rule of thumb is try to do the best you can while you still alive. Thanks for Mom and Dad for giving you a life not God, because God is not real. But, your daddy and mommy is real alright.
911XFILE 1 year ago
Only those who weak mind believe in religion, because they can't stand alone to fight the odd and unknown that may sometimes come in their ways. I am 100% believe that religion is a form of mind controlling substance. Nobody has ever returned from heaven to tell us that god exist. Don't waste time serving God, because God can never help you.
911XFILE 1 year ago
Nice song and voice
hmongstar1000 1 year ago
Nice song and voice
hmongstar1000 1 year ago
@xSuperDeeXx LOL maybe ur right, those who believe in ur lord jesus christ- even those who committed horrible act/crimes and yet has some how became a christianize while they're serving time in prison will get to go to heaven. and those who hadnt even hurt a fly will go to hell..all becuz they dont believe in ur jesus christ. that my friend is a religion im proud not to be part of. if im in hell so be it. at least im not with all those child molester/rapist/killers in ur so-called heaven.LOL
Sundincubus 1 year ago
Love this song! Love the sound of the instruments. May God bless the group in composing His words into songs to praise Him! Continue to do God's works for your reward will be the life in eternity. We need great singer and great band to reach the world. May God bless you!
npheevmuas 1 year ago
look at these lost Sheeps on yur comment and it is our job as Christians to bring them to the right path
xSuperDeeXx 1 year ago
@xSuperDeeXx LOL "Lost sheeps" u say. I respect all religions but when some1 like yourself ignorantly slam/labeled my beliefs as being nothing more than a lost animal aka savages then I have an obligation to disrespect u in return. So, becuz u called yourself a christian does that make u more civilize/better than us? dont make me laugh. people like u make christianity look bad.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus - Hey, I don't know what "beliefs" you believe and I don't know if you have taken any religion courses, too. Also, if you DO read the Bible, then you will understand what "Lost Sheep" (Have you not heard of idioms?) is or where it came from. You mentioned that you are someone who respects all religions. Just because someone disrespect you that you should disrespect that person back. For example, you mother yells at you infront of your friends, are you going to disrespect her?
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness to answer ur question, my family is shamanism and yes, I attended sunday schools when I was a teen from 5th to 7th grade. even if i dont believe in it I still want to learn what it's about. I've read the bible and yes, the bible did mention of any1 who doesnt believe in the name of christ is labeled as a lost sheep. However, the bible also taught about respecting others who chooses not to believe. it's about tolerance.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus I'm glad that you took your time to learn. I just want to point out that you mentioned that if someone disrepects you (religion) then you will disrespect them back. You can say that you kind of got out of hand when you heard "Lost Sheep". Now, and you just got done explaining to me what Lost Sheep was. Why put so much anger into it? Instead of trying to retaliate one another, one should just say "Thank you, I appreciate your opinion". Since you're talking about "tolerance".
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness when some1 esp. people who're deeply religious glorify themselves by saying their path is the right path and any non believers are just ignorant lost souls aka lost sheep/savages. christians use the term "lost sheep" to candy-coat their harsh criticizing of any non believers. we all know this is the true intent behind why christians fought muslims for centuries...and why they sent missionaries all over the world...-"to tame savages/make them become civilize."
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Um.. I think you got your fact wrong. Just want to let you know that. You mentioned that you went Bible schooling. Well, I think when you went there, you probably didnt learn much then, just based on your response. You still don't know what Lost Sheep means. You get it mixed up with savages, etc.. Using it wrong. I thought you knew, but, now, I know you don't know what it is. You pretty much indirectly/directly implied your response to Christians. I understand.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness maybe it's u who misunderstood. bible study is a sunday session for teens to attend church and read the bible with extra physical ed on the side. I never said anything about doing research. AND YES, I'VE READ THE BIBLE. so, if I have different views then my beliefs are wrong? So typical of u chrisitians. there's nothing any1 of christian faith have said that will shock me. u people seem to know it all.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@sakeness continue from last comment:..and whats this u keep saying about needing2 read the bible to understand where/why things are here and there?" dont even go there. we're not debating over evolution vs creation. we're talking about non believers AKA "lost sheeps" vs believers who seem2 know it all. and like u said, im wrong regardless becuz i dont share the same belief u do.in my view every religion has its flaws and im happy to say christianity is a religion im proud not 2b in that's all.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Don't worried. I have come across many people who have said they read the Bible, but, still don't get the gists of it. Sorry, I never pointed out that Christians know it all, it's YOUR words - not mines. We don't go around saying we know it all. It's YOU who THINKS we do. Bible study isn't just for teens, miss. I never told you to do a research. I told you to get your facts right before you start to say things. Haven't your mother/father/friends/teachers/coaches taught you that?
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus The only time you will be wrong in my eyes if you don't understand people and where they are coming from. I never slandered, not even once, at your religion. And, look at you, you did more than twice (my religion). Now, am I the bad person here? If so, then, I apologize. People are always talking about Christians (in a bad way) here and there, but, they don't realize that many organizations were created by these (Christians) that helped and will help many people who are in need.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Since you understood that every religion has its flaws then you should be more understanding of others. I'm pretty sure, if I were to say something bad about your religion, you wouldn't be too happy about it. Because, you probably can not tolerate the bs that people have to say about your religion. For example, I'm at home, someone comes and yells at me and tells me I'm a bunch of bs because of my religion. What would I say? Thank you.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness and if u know about understanding and backlashing then why are we even having this conversation? do u not know i backlash at that some1 becuz he descriminately put a non christian like me down. and I quote," look at all these lost sheep and their comments. it's our job to bring them to the right path." and that was being nice ok. but what he's really saying is: "look at all these sinners/savages. becuz our way is the right way we must free them from their ignorants/sins."
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@sakeness continue from last comment: now, let me ask u, is this anyway to behave like christians do? by putting people down with their belief and when people backlash then it's "oh, im being bully and ostracize for bringing the good lord to show them the right path." listen, becuz this lazy atheist idiot 911XFILE bad mouthing religions dont assume im like that becuz though, im shamanism..im neither on both sides. im idenpendent and know both sides got its flaws. hope u understand. -god bless
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus When that person said that, he/she didn't named you. I'm pretty sure, that's your implication of what he/she said about that quote. Remember, you read the Bible. You should know who are the sinners. But, you don't. That surprises me that you don't know who they are when you said that you read the Bible.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue 1: and even if that person didnt named me, is it obvious what he/she's trying to say? it's not what was said, it's the content in which the word was said that's offensive. for instance, if a bunch of opinions made by others in here saying christians are this christians are that, are u not obligated to voice ur opinions in return becuz u feel their comments were wrong? or are u just gonna turn the other chin becuz they didnt' named u therefore, it's not directed toward u?
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Like I have told 911XFILE, since he said he have also read the Bible. Then he should know that Christians will always be judged in a bad way. People will always pick on Christians, trying to bring out their (Christians) flaws and hide their flaws. You read the Bible, you should know that, too. There's nothing that will surprise you, yet. Since, you know that, why be a part of that bully group.
sakeness 1 year ago
@sakeness continue from last comment..and the reason I disrespect them back is becuz throughout my years of attending bible school I find certain aspect of christianity to be so contradictory. let me give u 1 example, there're those I know that are the biggest gangbangers/drug dealers/runaways...who're all fire-up on sundays but remain an invisible christian for the rest of the week. selling drugs/gangbanging..and some even wears crosses on their chest to represent their loyalty to christ.
Sundincubus 1 year ago
@Sundincubus You are those many people who just based the Bible/Christians just on one or few scriptures. You need to read the whole Bible to understand where/why things are here and there. Please don't tell me that you have read it all, too. Even I have not read the whole Bible. Someone who reads it and studies the Words would know what's behind it. I'm sorry to say this but, you need to check your facts first then make your assumptions.
sakeness 1 year ago
@Sundincubus Also, I replied to 911XFILE. If you want, you can ask him for my response. I'm sure he's a good guy who can forward my response to you; so, you can read what I have said to him. ;-). Now, don't get me wrong, I am not trying to be superior here, I just want people to hear/see what I have to say. That's all.
sakeness 1 year ago
Nice job! Hmong Christian music has changed a lot in the last 10 years! :) Thank you for uploading! :)
P0Jntxoog 1 year ago
Ua tsaug rau Vajtswv vim nws txojkev hlub. Praise God. Thanks for posting. Let all the glory be to God.
AlexanderKoobtsheej 1 year ago
hmmm. .. . i think they can go bigger if they dont sing about jesus lol liked the begining also. . but then. .. ahhh. .. the rest of the song. . not so much haha
xyoojboi2 1 year ago
To all hmong people. December 21st, 2012 is the day the son of man comes to reaps the harvest the seeds he'd sown 2000 years ago. Those who don't have the name of the father aand the son marked on their foreheads will be cut down and destroyed, only those who have will remained on earth. Please tell everyones to go to church now to repent for their sins while there is still times left. If you don't be;ieve me, check out saint Malachy's prophecies; Benedict the 16 is the last pope we have
thelostsheep2012 1 year ago
Forget all the negative comments that are left here but only focus on God. Your music is not meant for mankind but for God. My pastor had a very good sermon on how our people are and how we forgot that we have come onto the promise land by God's will. He brought us here by other believers who had strong faith in him and that they may allow us to go back and save our people who are being prosecuted.
Zero22005 1 year ago
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Zero22005 1 year ago
Amazing! Praise the LORD. God bless you guys, HE has given you guys a talent!
HISangelicwings91 1 year ago
regardless of faith, i still love the song. it's full of passion, meaning, and depth. the drums, vocal, and guitars are awesome. well done!
honeexiong 1 year ago 5
Nice music and have a good vocal.............bad thing is not about love.........just about christ........hahahahah
FiReFlyYaNg 1 year ago
ya sing good and i dont hate on christ
cheenou 1 year ago 2
haleluya!!!!!!!!!
you guys rock!!!! keep it up!!!!!!
This song is so true, screw those people down there except those who believe
keresa2010 1 year ago
we get it Jesus is the way
maycee29Lee 1 year ago
if the music goes a little bit faster than they are, it would be a 5star song. i give this one 3 1/2
nasvwj 1 year ago
I thought they look kinda like Laib Laus :)
anac0nda 1 year ago
Praise God, brothers.
ntsawslislauj 1 year ago
nice song, keep up the good work. hope to hear more good songs from you guys
monxiong 1 year ago
This band shuld be renamed 'holy guacamole' haha
ninjadood 1 year ago
Don't matter as long they're dedicated to Jesus. Remember there are Christian Rap, Hip Hop, Country, Rock, Alternative, Emo, R&B, and etc. Everyone sings according to their beliefs. We can't just all have regular music. Christian Music is a very inspriational to a lot of Christian people. If sum of ya can't listen to Christian music, oh well, you just have to live with it. AMEN!
Nice Song.
pitherra 1 year ago
They are Christain Band. You get the "Holy" part. Great job guys. Keep praising the Lord. Rau siab hu ntxiv kom peb tus Vajtswv tau ntsej muag.
SouaSade 1 year ago
my jesus? wtfukk? im not hating but this song is a turn off.. hahaha.. i guess that is why hey are called "HOLY THUNDER" ahahahahaah
MrBabeeNai 1 year ago
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meanstar 1 year ago
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meanstar 1 year ago
The music and song sounds good, yeah until the jesus thing, but thats okay, cuz everyone has their own belief. They can sing about anything they want, but seriously, if they want to make money for their album, they do have too and really need to stop singing about it!!! ... People get quite offended...lol
NKAUJTHAI 1 year ago
Great job! I love the song! God bless!
monie0627 1 year ago
song is fking great til i see the christain part lmao hahahaha that part just ruined it but they can never beat laib laus..
jwareti12 1 year ago
i like the song until the jesus part
then i faint.
my smile fade away.
REPLYASURFAN 2 years ago
@REPLYASURFAN What's wrong with the Jesus part? Obviously you are not listening to the lyrics! Jesus is the way, the truth and the life! Rock on Holy Thunder and keep praising God for He is Good!
phoojywg417 1 year ago
You guys rock! Would love to see you guys on HmongTunes. com so we can purchase your songs.
cyang91 2 years ago
Christian rock.. Now that is funny.... hahahahhahahahahah
3766401 2 years ago
This is awesome!!! It doesn't matter what the lyric is saying. It's how you feel about it.
Meshele029 2 years ago
i like this song. ^_^
there should be alot more hmong music like this out there.
thojmee 2 years ago
don't be angry my Hmong brothers and sisters. we need to love one another regardless of what choices one has made. that's our gift of free will. what you choose is yours to choose. but search for the truth and the truth will set you free. Don't let the love end with you. God bless our Hmong people.
crdbrdbox 2 years ago
Ok my honest opinion here... I really really like the band. The bass player, keyboard, drummer, and especially the shredder guitarist. But let's be true, can we here some boy friend, girl friend rock songs too? Absolutely nothing against Christian Rock but sometimes relationship depression gets in our way and we would need to releave by listening to other topics. Just my opinion... Rock on Holy Thunder!
bigdyang07 2 years ago
players from laib laus....
AZBOF209 2 years ago