Stinger Performance Project Bolt On 2.3 Turbo 4 Mustang

[bbsombs]

can the Stinger PIMP CPU work with any cam profile?? im looking at an Lunati cam "flat tappet" just wondering how the cpu will work with it and how it will idle

[StingerPerformance]

@bbsombs Yes, it will work with any cam profile. This is because it's completely configurable for any configuration. You'd have much better luck making power with a roller cam from BoPort though. Dyno testing shows their cams make MUCH more power than any other off the shelf options for the 2.3T.

[tcranger88]

hey what clutch you running?

[StingerPerformance]

@tcranger88 I believe it was using a Clutchnet "red" pressure plate and 3 puk solid disc in these vids. This seemed to be about it's tq holding limit as it would give up after 20 passes or so.

[brannon86svo]

i have been on your site a few times, i want to make 300 whp and 350 wtq, any suggestions for what parts to buy?

[StingerPerformance]

@brannon86svo Yes, there are some pretty good guidelines on the FAQ page of our site "Mods for X HP" section. That would be a good start. Once you get a good idea from that, you can email us for additional questions.

[AllanXRLTS3]

holy... dude how many aftermarket parts did u put in that thing, my dads manual 2.3 can't do 0-60 iunder 10 secs maybe 15-20

[StingerPerformance]

@AllanXRLTS3 All the mods are listed at the beginning of the video...being turbocharged is the biggest mod.

[StingerPerformance]

@AllanXRLTS3 All the mods are listed at the beginning of the video...being turbocharged is the biggest mod.

[Kawasakiforlife7]

you runnin a intercooler on that?

[StingerPerformance]

@Kawasakiforlife7 Yes

[MrTcandela08]

wow...very nice looking notch! I have a 2.3 Ranger and this is my dream car these engines have so much potential I love them.

[gutedrummer1]

I demand more videos!!! I bought an 84 SVO a couple years ago and it came with a 2.5 block cleaned prepped (oil return drilled) for turbo including having the cylinders ringed. I got rid of the SVO but I kept the block. I was wondering if you thought it would be worth it to build that 2.5?

[StingerPerformance]

"Worth" isn't something I can decide for you. The 2.3 is just a stroked 2.3 though so it's got just as much potential (or a bit more). Just make sure you have good rods and forged pistons.

[gutedrummer1]

@StingerPerformance I suppose I could have worded that differently. Yeah I guess my main question was if the 2.5 was a good block to use compared to the 2.3 but you've basically answered my question. Thanks! P.S. More videos! :P

[StingerPerformance]

The cylinder walls are a little thinner than the turbo era 2.3's so you'll want to avoid an overbore of more than .020 or so max. The smaller the bore the better. We've got more videos on here (6 total I believe) and there are some others on our Tech Forum. There are also other videos under our other username 2300gearjammer on here.

[pschar31]

how much torque are you whacking that T5 with?

[StingerPerformance]

400 lb/ft or so at the wheels so 450+ at the trans.

[crownv80]

NICE CAR ! just bought a wrecked turbo coupe with low mileage ; less than 40,000 correct miles ! . got to find something to put it in !

[lrfag]

how much is it to add the turbo on to a 2.3? because i would like to add sum power on my mustang but not do an engine swap b/c it only has 25k on it

[StingerPerformance]

You'll be limited severely by the stock engine because it's got cast pistons and higher compression than the turbo engine...wouldn't be safe to run more than 10psi or so which will only make about 150rwhp. Cost will be 2-3 times more than swapping in a complete 2.3 turbo engine.

[StingerPerformance]

On our site, there is a 91-93 turbo swap guide, frequently asked questions, tech forum, etc. which contains all the info you would need to complete this swap.

[lvlik9]

I have a 93 mustang coupe with the 2.3 engine in it...how much work will I need to do to put a turbo on it...I know I will have to put forged pistons in it but if I can get a manifold,turbo,and computer from a donor car,how much more work will I need to do...I just looking for low 13's or better....

[StingerPerformance]

The cheap/easy method is to drop in a complete factory turbo engine along with the turbo ecu, air meter, coil, injectors, etc. Using your engine and rebuilding it and purchasing the items individually doubles or triples the cost of the conversion. You can find much more detailed information about this on our site

[StingerPerformance]

Our web address is posted in the video description on the top right as well as on the video itself. They won't let me type it here for some reason.

[clarks971]

What kind of stall are you using on your transmission? Or is it a stick?

[StingerPerformance]

T5 5 Speed, leaving at 6000 or so.

[clarks971]

what are you using for a head gasket??? nice ride. I keep blowing my head gasket

[StingerPerformance]

It's a Felpro 1035 head gasket. Headgaskets typically blow from an inproper tune that causes detonation (which will also blow the 1035 gasket). The actual boost pressure does not blow headgaskets. A combination of a proper tune, stock headgasket, and proper headbolt torque/torque sequence is enough to support 380+hp when done properly.

[TPena92]

What happen to your website? Im trying to by a Dual 3in Exhuast for a merkur xr

[StingerPerformance]

The server went down and took a few days to fix, it's been back up since Thursday evening.

[StingerPerformance]

Cost for complete engine without nitrous is around $3000, with nitrous is about $1500. It is an american iron 2.3 SOHC 8v engine found in Thunderbirds, Mustangs, Merkurs, and Cougars in 83-89.

[lions66666]

that is an american 4 cylinder motor in that car right no japanese 4 cylinder 2.3 motor

[lions66666]

how much money does it cost to build a motor like this one that you have

[onlydarkguard8]

wait indiana!

[onlydarkguard8]

where is this taken at?

[StingerPerformance]

World Ford Challenge at Gateway International Raceway.

[duba87]

good shit represent 2.3...

[magnificent10304]

Man an excellent run, the 99 stang musta broke or somethin cuz he was nowhere to be found, an you left him at the line. I always love to see a 2.3 represent an you definetly did. big ups

[StingerPerformance]

The 99 didn't break, he ran a 12.2x if I remember right...

[magnificent10304]

so what's your best E.T cuz if he didn't break down your SVO is really really fast

[StingerPerformance]

It is announced at the end of the vid that the run was a 10.89@124.5 mph

It's not an SVO though, it's a 87 notch Mustang with a turbo engine swapped in.

[Andy1396003]

what kind of power are you putting out?.. i would like to build something like that for my 2.3 pinto... its 1974 so no smog...:)

[StingerPerformance]

It's about 430hp to the wheels in this video. Aiming for 500-550hp this year.

[magnificent10304]

shit i could care less if it's an SVO, it's badass, have ya eva thought about pinks all out?? i think you would make history an make people remember these motors

[StingerPerformance]

We have considered Pinks all out, just haven't done it yet.

[1bdog23]

What engine management are you using?

[StingerPerformance]

In this video it was an 87-88 Turbo Coupe ECU with a chip and converted to Mass-air (90mm Lightning maf). Now it is running a Megasquirt system.

[GigaDonk]

very fast nigger. Good job.

[vittupersesaatana]

Is that 2.3 engine same as in early model Mustang from beginning of 80's? Based on Pinto?

[StingerPerformance]

Yes, same basic engine, though 79-82 version was carb not efi. This is the 83-89 efi version found in Mustang SVO's, Thunderbird Turbo Coupes, Merkur XR4Ti's (all turbo from the factory), as well as the non-turbo version in 79-93 Mustangs, Ranger pickups, etc.

[vittupersesaatana]

Ok, thanks for the info. I have had in my mind to build quite powerful Mustang, have thought about early 80's 2.3L turbo or then GT-HO 5.0 V8 and turbocharge it.What would you think, which one would be better basis to start a project if goal is near 600BHP? 5.0 sure has better brakes etc. ready but I suppose at least original pistons wouldn't stand much boost and n/a is not option right now to me.

[StingerPerformance]

-Stock 5.0 blocks crack @ 500-600hp so an aftermarket block to start your build with, then aftermarket crank, rods, pistons, & some alum heads. There are plenty of builds to copy to get to your hp #.

-Stock 2.3 block and crank has been pushed beyond 800rwhp without issue. Rods & pistons would be needed, then an Esslinger head, cam, etc. to get there. There aren't too many 600+hp 2.3's (I can think of a handful) so you cant copy a "typical" setup to get 600hp, though it's doable.

[vittupersesaatana]

Have kinda addicted to boost after few turbo-Saabs but getting tired of wheelspins. That your car jumps from line like rabbit, seems very interesting after FWD :).

[twotone87]

you trying to catch up to huber?lol

[StingerPerformance]

I don't think we've got the funds for that...or at least the desire to put that much money into it. The car is certified to go 9.99 so that's our next goal.

[3foxstangs]

those of you wandering what kind of software to use..... megasquirt. its a stand alone speed density ecu that you can usually get for less than $500. and if you can convert a mustang to t-bird ecu you can wire this your self and all you need to do is tune it and run any injectors you want with complete street ability

[StingerPerformance]

Megasquirt isn't software, it's hardware, nor can you run a maf with it. It is a good standalone system though.

[qmiler88]

what size Throttle body is on there? I am getting my car ready for the holset.  Thanks Shannon, I think I am going to go with MS.

[StingerPerformance]

It's a 95 GT throttle body...65mm. Someone just came out with a "plug in" MS system over on TF...I think it's $599.

[generalgruesbeck]

Only one word describes this - SWEET!

Next - I want it! (3 words)

[qmiler88]

Nice work Shannon, what type of fuel management software are you using for the 75ln injectos and lightning maf? How streetable is the setup, and was that run using a full exhaust or just DP. THanks. My notch is going to look that like that black one, I can't wait!

[StingerPerformance]

Currently we are using a J3 port adapter and PCMX software to run the injectors and maf. It "can" be plenty streetable, though we haven't dialed it in for that just yet. We installed those parts about a shortly before the above run was made and only had time to get a rough tune. It was rich at idle, lean under boost, but somehow it stayed together the whole weekend. That run is made with an open downpipe.

[twotone87]

sweet jesus man that car is getting fast.

got any video of the new setup? Oh this is 4bangen from stangnet.

[StingerPerformance]

This is a vid of the "new" setup...ported head, essy cam, 27psi, no nitrous, and a 90mm lightning maf. I think it will go 10.60's just dialing in the tune...then it's time for a larger turbo and more boost.

[twotone87]

you ever gona put the bottle back on it?

[StingerPerformance]

The bottle and such is still installed and ready to use at any moment. We don't plan to use it though unless it goes like 10.40's and we just want to make a 9 second glory run...the nitrous just is not consistent enough to use every round of a race...

[twotone87]

cool, I am about to put a 100shot on my bird with a ported head and bigger valves.