One correction--That 5 million 400 thousand also included post war examples. You forgot to mention International Harvester and Harrington Richardson-both made Garands, but only post war. Springfield also made some post war examples.
funny how soldiers said screw this m1 give me my 1903. then they said screw this m16 give me an m14. when the m16 is replaced how many soldiers will say screw this thing give me and m16. but one thing all generations of soldiers have in common is that "basic training was a lot tougher in my day" and "we had values and respected our elders"
Just a heads-up: there is one chrome garand like in the video for sale on gunbroker right now, price around $10.000 if I remember correctly... (no, I am not the seller nor am I advertising anything)
This rifle should still be considered FAR superior to the M16/M4. However it lacks the high capacity detachable magazines required by the majority of modern soldiers who cant hit their targets.
@eifersucht2 well said if i had a choice id probably march into battle with the m1 garand for sure, semi auto fire out of a 30-06 would put the fear of god into the enemy compared to the gay little 5.56
I want an M1 garand but if i need to get it i need to pay for the weapon to bee non-shoting mode so i cant use it... because i don`t got an weapon premision :P
@skarsboo You need permission to buy it? I would encourage taking a safety course or shadowing those who know how to handle firearms before buying one, but where I live (New Hampshire, USA) I just go in, pay for it, and all I have to do is pass an FBI background check proving I'm not a felon or terrorist... Then I walk out of the store with my gun THE SAME DAY.
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you notice how they move over the leaking gas port and the leaking gasket that made the rifle work , and the hole in the rifle stock for the key you had to have at all times , most are lot to day there in dead soldiers pockets laying to rust
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notice how .if you cant dispell what i say but enter in to calling names that speaks a lot for you . try reading up on the rifle and less name calling
What? I dispell EVERYTHING you say everytime, I always give detailed, technical and precise reasons as to why you're wrong, and YOU need to read up on the rifle, since you constantly make up fictional flaws about it with EVERY M1 video you post on, everyone marks you down because everyone knows its all BS. People see my expertise on weapons and my education with them, and often PM me wondering why you post such crap, I tell them, that some people are just uptight uninformed know-it-alls.
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lone wolf all you do is call names like moran and other bs . try reading up on what you say you know and thats nothing if you did know any thing you would want to know why the gas leak and the star key to tighten the gas port , you thought the stock was solid wood like your head , no it has a place for the cleaning ror and the star key , why because it leaked got it leaked . now add that to your wood head
No, you werent making sense with your poor english, you made it sound like the stock was where the gas piston was. And once the piston cap is tightened, it will not leak, and it will not come loose, it has to be forcebly unscewed, the solid steel piton cap is over an inch long, once its screwed in, it isnt going anywhere, you make it sound like every M1 leakes gas like no tomorrow, and its piston cap is somehow ALWAYS loose, what makes you think EVERY M1 has the SAME EXACT part LOOSE?
And why would I need to "read up" on rifles that I've owned for 30 years?, I know everything about the rifle, inside and out, I've restored hundreds of M1s over the years, I've built dozens of M1s from every nut, spring, screw,bolt and barrel.
It's funny when someone like you comes along thinking they know everything, like the gas piston always leaking (which it does NOT). I mean your gas piston theroy is foolish, its like going around saying every car on earth has its gas cap broken off!!
I've also talked to a few WWII veterans aswell as at least 2 dozen other gun professionals and experts recently about your theroy about the gas piston star key being "loose" all the time, and they always say that it never lost any gas, because they SCREWED IT ON after field stripping it, once its screwed on, the ONLY way it will come out, or even become LOOSE, is to unscrew it, which takes quite a bit of finger and hand muscles, its NOT going to just "COME OUT", that theroy is just ridiculous.
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lonewolf had to many bb guns to speak on the m1 rifle .if you read his many post he cant say the same thing 2 times wiih out calling names that to me is a child at the compuer trying to look like a war hero . that to me knows nothing of war let alone a riffle that was in a war
It seems pretty silly that you're the ONLY one that speaks of this "epic fatal flaw' with the M1 rifle, nobody else on earth mentions it, no manuals ever say anything about it being a problem, no veterans ever reported a problem with it, no gun expert ever even mentions any sort of problem with the gas piston cap, NOTHING. YOU are the ONLY ONE who claims its a "huge" problem. I'm afraid reality vs YOUR reality is quite different.
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fire power of the m1 carbine and the carbine was a clip fed system i know im a vet and that m1 rifle in training camps leaked and in battle . just think for a moment and ssk your self what would happen if the gas port and gasket leaked ? your dead friend dead as a duck that is a major flaw in that rifle covered by the star key that in battle if you lost it your dead again so that is a major flaw and belive me you have not talked to many if you dont know that
I'm petty sure you'd know if the gas port cap was loose, since it would hiss when you shot, you'd notice it, then you'd make a quick tighten, and you're good to go, you would not "die", and yes I've spoken with many WWII and Korean war veterans, and gun experts, all say that it will not kill you, nor will it explose, or anything, if it isnt all the way on, it will make a loud hissing sound when you shoot, I know because I've shot one of my M1 rifles with the gas piston cap loosened.
When I shot my M1 with the key loosened, all that happened was a loud sudden hiss, and a small cloud of pressure, however the rifle fired JUST FINE, only a small drop in muzzle velocity, so that pretty much disproves your theroy.
And Carbines were not meant as frontline weapons, they only had an effective range of 50 yards, had poor penetration, and mild accuracy, Carbines are personal defence weapons, not rifles, and not meant for heavy combat. Garands and Carbines arent in the same catagory
hello i have been having problems with my m1 garand. From time to time it has been "slam firing" i guess ud call it, fully automatic, un controlled fire. I keep it clean and have taken it apart a good 2 or 3 times and everything obvious seems to be alright. i have been running federal 150 gr powershok ammunition throught it, maybe its over pressure but im not sure. your imput is appreciated thanks
Yeah typically slam firing is caued by over pressure, it can result in 3 or 4 shots being fired automatically with no control, this is a dangerous situation. I think taking it to a local gunsmith would be the smart thing to do they'll identify the cause right there.
thanks for your imput, i knew it wasnt good its done it 2 or 3 times and i havent shot it since haha unexpected automatic fire out of a 30-06 is enough to knock your socks off!
The reason your Garand is slam firing is because of the commercial bullets. You need to use military like the CMP Greeks or try the new Hornady special load for Garand. I believe Federal also makes a load for Garand. The other choice is hand load. Now the reason why it slam fires is because the military bullets use a harder style primer than commercial. The Garand loads the bullets with quite a bit of pressure and the firing pin can make contact as it locks in, so a weak primer can cause trouble
Another thing to realize is commercial rounds use a different style of powder that can cause your operation rod to bend. The military used a slower burning powder. You can do some searching and it will tell you what primer and powders can be used safely in the Garand.
@michsteve09 thanks very much man, i just got a whole reloading kit. when i get some 30-06 dies at least i can start experimenting with different loads and see what works best, ill make sure i get some slow burning powder for it, and do u know what brand of primers i should be looking into?
@lliamcoombs If the action has been slamming forward at a very hard rate. My best guess is to switch ammo and use American Eagle speacily made Garand ammo it may help to stop the slam firing. hope this helped
@theotherhomer thanks for the reply, i bought a lee reloading set a while ago and ive been running my handloads through it with the 30-06 factory crimp dies and cci 250 pimers, ive been loading them at the minimal load for 30-06 in the lee loading book and it has been working fantastic, ive probably put over 100 of my handloads through it without a single jam or slamfire its been great!
@theotherhomer I doubt that changing the ammo will help. First, check the firing pin tang for damage. I would then check the firing pin for excess protrusion. Slam firing is a VERY dangerous condition in the M1.
yeah the m1 wasn't designed to use commercial ammo which is hotter/ higher pressure which, as well as inducing slam fires, can also bend the operating rod. 1. buy surplus ammo its cheaper than commercial too ps. make sure its ammo with "non-corrosive" primers 2. buy commercial ammo manufactured specifically for the m1 or 3. buy an adjustable gas valve then u can set yr gun to work safely with all commercial ammo u can get them for $40 but dont shoot anything over 180 gr the gun is not meant to.
There are a lot of options. You can get vintage ones that were used in the war, or one of the 'new' ones made by Springfield from 2002-2007. I personally will probably get a newer one since I want to shoot it a lot.
It probably costs too much to make, but its still a rifle well worthy of combat, after firing M-4s M-16s M-14s, MP-5s. and have owned a Garand since I was 18, the M-1 can still easily hold it's own in modern combat. Just because its an older rifle, everyone seems to think its inferior, 8 shots of .30-06 is more than capable of doing untold amounts of damage, far more than the tiny 5.56mm, the .30 cal has better range power, penetration, and flat trajectory, so its easier to hit targets at range
Fulton Armory actually makes brand-new Garands and they're reputed to be excellent (though very expensive.) If you want a "new" Garand which still has some history, pick up a CMP Special. USGI parts all re-parkerized, new stock and new barrel. I have one and it's a wonderful rifle, shoots and feels like it would've coming straight out of Springfield in 1942.
The Mondragon was an automatic rifle, or technically a LMG, not a general issue semi-auto gas operated battle rifle, the Mondragon was issued like the B.A.R. was.
If you say you "rape ass" with this gun of Call of Duty, be my guest. Go shoot one for real then I'll come over and slap you on your sore shoulder and say "Hows it going of Call of Duty?"
The kick on an M1 isn't that bad...the weight of the rifle and the gas action really really cuts down on recoil. Slightly worse than a .410 shot gun shell.
I know that but that one was for all the weak nerds that use COD as a fucking encyclopedia. Don't get me wrong its a great game but it just doesn't compare to the real thing.
automobile accident? It was NO accident, HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO DIED IN THE CRASH! It was planned because Russia was scared America would find out what they really wanted. Patton was right. But Patton rocked and so does the gerand!
I just learned about CMP today and I'm already filling out the forms! I can't believe I almost paid $1500 from a dealer, what a rip! Should have my Garand in a couple of months or so. I really wish they'd offer .45's and M14's as well. Inexplicably, most of these pieces of history seem destined to become scrap when millions of Americans would gladly pay to own them.
I think the .45's are unavailable because we still have them in armories because they are still used by us on the battlefield even today (although not in the numbers as before). The M14 will probably never be offered to the public as is, the only people selling real US Military M14's is the Fulton Armory. We are still using the M14, the service academies and military academies (like mine) use M14's, and because of the selective rate of fire, it will always be classified as a machine gun.
I'm saving up to buy form the CMP as well. An M1 from the CMP is my next purchase! I'm just going to buy a Springfield Armory M1A, it may not have the military history of a real M14, but it will be brand new (not used and abused condition), and won't be worn down either. The Fulton Armory has a complicated and gov't-approved de-selector switching process that allows them to sell old M14's, but they are the only ones I know of that sell them
Since .30-06 ammunition is no longer stocked by DoD, M1 Rifles are useless so are better off sold, but M14s can use 7.62x51mm that is standard issue ammunition.
I have heard several accounts of M14 rifles mothballed since Vietnam being dusted off for service in Iraq/Afghanistan only now as a designated marksman's rifle, usually after some modifications such as advanced scope and/or new stock.
I was thinking on a remote army base, if a soldier uses an M1 Garand for whatever reason then the quartermaster probably will not be able to provide .30-06 ammunition for range practice and deployment. They would only stock 5.56mm and 7.62mm rifle calibres.
However that is not an issue for civilians as the open market can support distribution of many different calibres, including .30-06.
yeah you're right, i just looked it up because i thought 30-06 was nato standard, but it turns out they went with a cartrige that is ALMOST the same, but not. Are there any nato standard rounds that are actually american in orgin? 9mm,5.56, 7.62, is .50cal considered nato standard?
There is a modification that involves changing the barrel of this rifle to accommodate the 7.62 x 51MM cartridge, also known as the 7.62 NATO round. This would increase its utility as a battle rifle, perhaps not in the United States, but for third world countries.
I spoke to former Phillipine Army soldier who had used one of these rifles in an engagement with the Moros of Mindanao during the 1970's. They were inclined to engage PI troops using M-16's but hesitated against M1 equipped units.
Thanks for the info, I didn't consider conversion. I just googled it to find the ever-industrious US Navy actually used M1 rifles converted to 7.62NATO. They were fed from 20 round M14 magazines but did you catch whether the Philippine models were the same?
Though I've always had a fondness for en-block clips from the logistic advantage of reduced overall ammo weight while being the quickest way to reload when firing prone. But real soldiering probably prefers the benefits of box magazines.
My apologies. I do not believe that the PI models were converted to the 7.62. They are the same WW2/Korea stock that was arsenal refinished and restocked in Uncle Sam's Arms Pantry. As another aside, the U.S. sold all their tooling to the Italians, who made Beretta M-1's (which are highly prized collector's items). They made the Beretta BM-59 and the BM-62 chambered in 7.62. These rifles are purported to be higher in quality than the counterpart M-14, which is also a Garand derivative.
The 5.56 fragments though, creating un-healible would cavities.
Of course you really can't compare an intermediate cartridge to a full sized rifle cartridge.
Personally I don't see why we don't just go back to battle rifles. Update the FAL, G3, or M14 and we would be set. The intermediate cartridge was really for closer combat and rapid fire (StG 44), but I think with the invention of the battle rifle, there are little advantages to the assault rifle.
the m-14 was a great rifle you could hit somebody at 800 yards in a trained hands and it gave a solution to a million dollar answer with a thousand dollar solution
Filipino Christian militias in the southern Philippines still use them to defend their farms, homes, and families from Muslim intruders, as well as still in service with the government forces as a reserve-issue weapon.
its a goverment owned store filled with surplus weapons like the garand,carbean,1903, and cheap 30-06 ammo.CMP stands for civlian marksmanship program you can by online but you have to be a member fill some paper work and if you buy a rifle you have to wait 60 to 90 days ammo is like 1 to 2 weeks
fuck this gun is such a beauty... sadly it's banned in austria :( without any reason... normally we can own semi auto rifles. but they say this gun can be made to a fully auto rifle just too easy. dunno if this is true.
The M1 itself may not be real easy to convert to full auto, but I would recommend that you look up the M-14. That is essentially a M-1 that has been converted to use a 20 round detachable box magazine, a little less wood, and a screw on the gas cylinder that could be turned to convert it from full auto to semi-auto. The U.S. army still uses the M-14, but it's now more commonly known as the M-21.
man i got to shoot this rifle yesterday at the range and it was awesome. the concussion was pretty strong from 10 feet away. i am going to buy one as soon as i can.
If you know what your doing and you adjust your windage correctly,you can reach fairly far. My personal best was 7/8 rounds on a 24/72 silhouette target at 300yards.I did fairly well,Ive had alot of time with the Garand.Mine was an original Korean War era Garand given to my Great Uncle by an American Officer for his quartly service, my great uncle was wounded and detailed to be the officers "secretary". Pretty neat. It was stolen a couple months ago and recovered in a drainage pipe.Thanks thugs!
The Garand was recovered like I had said before. In a drainage pipe/ditch not to far from my house. They ditched the bulky items and took mostly pistols and a few letters from kin dating back from the Civil War all the way to Vietnam. Its truly sickening man. I honestly cried because it was so much of my families history you know? I think the crooks thought it was Tax info or something to steal m identity, im not sure. It was in a leather breifcase. I dont think Ill get them back.
link? what shop? i'd love to get my hands on one, even deac'ied' just for display. semi automatic rifles are like rocking horse shit here, arent they outlawed?
btw this presentation piece looks stunning all chromed up!
it still is used but more as a ceremonial weapon.But you don't know rebel or para-military force somewhere in the world may still use them, as the Thompson was used by rebels in Bosnia in the 90's,it is a possibility.
b way more than 25k, a one of a kind, b was ment to be presented to someone. ya can make a replica but the history that that particular rifle has atached to it cant be copied
That hoop is usually on fire since the its the wife. I've checked out CMP and I'm glad I am a member of a local gun club that has service rifle competitions. I was about to shell out three times as much if it didn't mention my next wish to a fellow shooter. Thanks dreiband for the advice. No one can go wrong with CMP.
You need to fill that empty space, sierrareloader! You can get an M1 from the CMP very easily, at a reasonable price. Just jump through a few hoops, not hard if you're a shooter.
One correction--That 5 million 400 thousand also included post war examples. You forgot to mention International Harvester and Harrington Richardson-both made Garands, but only post war. Springfield also made some post war examples.
GordonTurnerpark 9 months ago
i thought it was a 30-06
colemcgill13 11 months ago
@colemcgill13 it is:p
planb1532190 4 months ago
funny how soldiers said screw this m1 give me my 1903. then they said screw this m16 give me an m14. when the m16 is replaced how many soldiers will say screw this thing give me and m16. but one thing all generations of soldiers have in common is that "basic training was a lot tougher in my day" and "we had values and respected our elders"
jimbobsports 1 year ago
The M-1 is a great weapon. I had fired one at a rifle range and it was 100 % accurate
with the open sights. W.W. two was won with this soldiers weapon. JosephObe
JosephObe 1 year ago
Damn, I need that pic of the chrome Garand in hi-res.
DankWin 1 year ago
Chrome looks nice but i think good old fashioned pakerized metal is much more attractive
ArmyInfantry91 1 year ago
Just a heads-up: there is one chrome garand like in the video for sale on gunbroker right now, price around $10.000 if I remember correctly... (no, I am not the seller nor am I advertising anything)
Revesvett 1 year ago
@Revesvett I'll take two then:)
alenleroc 1 year ago
I wonder if it has been shot? Very nice
guysmalley 1 year ago
This rifle should still be considered FAR superior to the M16/M4. However it lacks the high capacity detachable magazines required by the majority of modern soldiers who cant hit their targets.
eifersucht2 1 year ago
In terms of stopping power, range, accuracy-at-range and penetration, its superior.
LoneWolf051 1 year ago
@eifersucht2 well said if i had a choice id probably march into battle with the m1 garand for sure, semi auto fire out of a 30-06 would put the fear of god into the enemy compared to the gay little 5.56
lliamcoombs 1 year ago 4
@lliamcoombs You really don't know your ass from a hole in the ground do you?
GordonTurnerpark 9 months ago
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wyomingmach 1 year ago
Wonder what one of the Chrome presentations Garands would be valued at ?! Beautiful...........
ridutche 1 year ago 7
yaa i wouldnt mind havin 1 of them
bbjb713 1 year ago
I want an M1 garand but if i need to get it i need to pay for the weapon to bee non-shoting mode so i cant use it... because i don`t got an weapon premision :P
skarsboo 2 years ago
You need to have an FFL, which requires you to be 21 and older.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
@skarsboo You need permission to buy it? I would encourage taking a safety course or shadowing those who know how to handle firearms before buying one, but where I live (New Hampshire, USA) I just go in, pay for it, and all I have to do is pass an FBI background check proving I'm not a felon or terrorist... Then I walk out of the store with my gun THE SAME DAY.
RichfromNH 1 year ago
@RichfromNH Remember no offense Usa is alot of criminals and psychos :P Some ! :P
skarsboo 1 year ago
Oh, they did a background check to make certain I'm not crazy or a felon but I could get it the same day. I'm also over 21...
RichfromNH 1 year ago
Lucky, here in California, it takes weeks to get any firearm, and even then they have to be under a certain ammo capacity, and cannot be full auto.
LoneWolf051 1 year ago
@RichfromNH so can you and everyone else... you aren't special
imustbebored2behere 1 year ago
Me want!
KingKoodles 2 years ago 2
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you notice how they move over the leaking gas port and the leaking gasket that made the rifle work , and the hole in the rifle stock for the key you had to have at all times , most are lot to day there in dead soldiers pockets laying to rust
merbenzgill 2 years ago
Quit spamming fake info you moron, and for god's sake learn to speak English.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
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notice how .if you cant dispell what i say but enter in to calling names that speaks a lot for you . try reading up on the rifle and less name calling
merbenzgill 2 years ago
What? I dispell EVERYTHING you say everytime, I always give detailed, technical and precise reasons as to why you're wrong, and YOU need to read up on the rifle, since you constantly make up fictional flaws about it with EVERY M1 video you post on, everyone marks you down because everyone knows its all BS. People see my expertise on weapons and my education with them, and often PM me wondering why you post such crap, I tell them, that some people are just uptight uninformed know-it-alls.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
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lone wolf all you do is call names like moran and other bs . try reading up on what you say you know and thats nothing if you did know any thing you would want to know why the gas leak and the star key to tighten the gas port , you thought the stock was solid wood like your head , no it has a place for the cleaning ror and the star key , why because it leaked got it leaked . now add that to your wood head
merbenzgill 2 years ago
No, you werent making sense with your poor english, you made it sound like the stock was where the gas piston was. And once the piston cap is tightened, it will not leak, and it will not come loose, it has to be forcebly unscewed, the solid steel piton cap is over an inch long, once its screwed in, it isnt going anywhere, you make it sound like every M1 leakes gas like no tomorrow, and its piston cap is somehow ALWAYS loose, what makes you think EVERY M1 has the SAME EXACT part LOOSE?
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
And why would I need to "read up" on rifles that I've owned for 30 years?, I know everything about the rifle, inside and out, I've restored hundreds of M1s over the years, I've built dozens of M1s from every nut, spring, screw,bolt and barrel.
It's funny when someone like you comes along thinking they know everything, like the gas piston always leaking (which it does NOT). I mean your gas piston theroy is foolish, its like going around saying every car on earth has its gas cap broken off!!
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
I've also talked to a few WWII veterans aswell as at least 2 dozen other gun professionals and experts recently about your theroy about the gas piston star key being "loose" all the time, and they always say that it never lost any gas, because they SCREWED IT ON after field stripping it, once its screwed on, the ONLY way it will come out, or even become LOOSE, is to unscrew it, which takes quite a bit of finger and hand muscles, its NOT going to just "COME OUT", that theroy is just ridiculous.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
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lonewolf had to many bb guns to speak on the m1 rifle .if you read his many post he cant say the same thing 2 times wiih out calling names that to me is a child at the compuer trying to look like a war hero . that to me knows nothing of war let alone a riffle that was in a war
merbenzgill 2 years ago
It seems pretty silly that you're the ONLY one that speaks of this "epic fatal flaw' with the M1 rifle, nobody else on earth mentions it, no manuals ever say anything about it being a problem, no veterans ever reported a problem with it, no gun expert ever even mentions any sort of problem with the gas piston cap, NOTHING. YOU are the ONLY ONE who claims its a "huge" problem. I'm afraid reality vs YOUR reality is quite different.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
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fire power of the m1 carbine and the carbine was a clip fed system i know im a vet and that m1 rifle in training camps leaked and in battle . just think for a moment and ssk your self what would happen if the gas port and gasket leaked ? your dead friend dead as a duck that is a major flaw in that rifle covered by the star key that in battle if you lost it your dead again so that is a major flaw and belive me you have not talked to many if you dont know that
merbenzgill 2 years ago
I'm petty sure you'd know if the gas port cap was loose, since it would hiss when you shot, you'd notice it, then you'd make a quick tighten, and you're good to go, you would not "die", and yes I've spoken with many WWII and Korean war veterans, and gun experts, all say that it will not kill you, nor will it explose, or anything, if it isnt all the way on, it will make a loud hissing sound when you shoot, I know because I've shot one of my M1 rifles with the gas piston cap loosened.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
When I shot my M1 with the key loosened, all that happened was a loud sudden hiss, and a small cloud of pressure, however the rifle fired JUST FINE, only a small drop in muzzle velocity, so that pretty much disproves your theroy.
And Carbines were not meant as frontline weapons, they only had an effective range of 50 yards, had poor penetration, and mild accuracy, Carbines are personal defence weapons, not rifles, and not meant for heavy combat. Garands and Carbines arent in the same catagory
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
hello i have been having problems with my m1 garand. From time to time it has been "slam firing" i guess ud call it, fully automatic, un controlled fire. I keep it clean and have taken it apart a good 2 or 3 times and everything obvious seems to be alright. i have been running federal 150 gr powershok ammunition throught it, maybe its over pressure but im not sure. your imput is appreciated thanks
lliamcoombs 2 years ago 3
Yeah typically slam firing is caued by over pressure, it can result in 3 or 4 shots being fired automatically with no control, this is a dangerous situation. I think taking it to a local gunsmith would be the smart thing to do they'll identify the cause right there.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
thanks for your imput, i knew it wasnt good its done it 2 or 3 times and i havent shot it since haha unexpected automatic fire out of a 30-06 is enough to knock your socks off!
lliamcoombs 2 years ago
Huh, yeah, suddenly you have a BAR instead of an M1!, well your welcome though.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
The reason your Garand is slam firing is because of the commercial bullets. You need to use military like the CMP Greeks or try the new Hornady special load for Garand. I believe Federal also makes a load for Garand. The other choice is hand load. Now the reason why it slam fires is because the military bullets use a harder style primer than commercial. The Garand loads the bullets with quite a bit of pressure and the firing pin can make contact as it locks in, so a weak primer can cause trouble
michsteve09 2 years ago
Another thing to realize is commercial rounds use a different style of powder that can cause your operation rod to bend. The military used a slower burning powder. You can do some searching and it will tell you what primer and powders can be used safely in the Garand.
michsteve09 2 years ago
@michsteve09 thanks very much man, i just got a whole reloading kit. when i get some 30-06 dies at least i can start experimenting with different loads and see what works best, ill make sure i get some slow burning powder for it, and do u know what brand of primers i should be looking into?
lliamcoombs 2 years ago
@lliamcoombs If the action has been slamming forward at a very hard rate. My best guess is to switch ammo and use American Eagle speacily made Garand ammo it may help to stop the slam firing. hope this helped
theotherhomer 1 year ago
@theotherhomer thanks for the reply, i bought a lee reloading set a while ago and ive been running my handloads through it with the 30-06 factory crimp dies and cci 250 pimers, ive been loading them at the minimal load for 30-06 in the lee loading book and it has been working fantastic, ive probably put over 100 of my handloads through it without a single jam or slamfire its been great!
lliamcoombs 1 year ago
@theotherhomer I doubt that changing the ammo will help. First, check the firing pin tang for damage. I would then check the firing pin for excess protrusion. Slam firing is a VERY dangerous condition in the M1.
2020skip 7 months ago
yeah the m1 wasn't designed to use commercial ammo which is hotter/ higher pressure which, as well as inducing slam fires, can also bend the operating rod. 1. buy surplus ammo its cheaper than commercial too ps. make sure its ammo with "non-corrosive" primers 2. buy commercial ammo manufactured specifically for the m1 or 3. buy an adjustable gas valve then u can set yr gun to work safely with all commercial ammo u can get them for $40 but dont shoot anything over 180 gr the gun is not meant to.
bbjb713 1 year ago
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gunnykid 2 years ago
Proud to be Canadian.
BonhommeHero 2 years ago
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tatterhead56 2 years ago
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tatterhead56 2 years ago
@tatterhead56
that's a nice way to represent Americans....
guibin 2 years ago
i know
tatterhead56 2 years ago
You should be :D
marintoss 2 years ago
What a beautifully designed rifle. I have to buy myself an M1 Garand at some point.
sucklava 2 years ago 2
There are a lot of options. You can get vintage ones that were used in the war, or one of the 'new' ones made by Springfield from 2002-2007. I personally will probably get a newer one since I want to shoot it a lot.
CrystalHunter1989 2 years ago
The original Springfield Armory is gone but Winchester is still active. I have no idea why the stopped producing the rifle.
VinnyS914 2 years ago
It probably costs too much to make, but its still a rifle well worthy of combat, after firing M-4s M-16s M-14s, MP-5s. and have owned a Garand since I was 18, the M-1 can still easily hold it's own in modern combat. Just because its an older rifle, everyone seems to think its inferior, 8 shots of .30-06 is more than capable of doing untold amounts of damage, far more than the tiny 5.56mm, the .30 cal has better range power, penetration, and flat trajectory, so its easier to hit targets at range
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
Yeah. But if Auto Ordnance can bringback the M1 Carbine they should have a Garand. It'd be worth it to me.
VinnyS914 2 years ago
Fulton Armory actually makes brand-new Garands and they're reputed to be excellent (though very expensive.) If you want a "new" Garand which still has some history, pick up a CMP Special. USGI parts all re-parkerized, new stock and new barrel. I have one and it's a wonderful rifle, shoots and feels like it would've coming straight out of Springfield in 1942.
hibob841 2 years ago
Thanks. Guy at the range I go to said they had new Garands I just didn't believe him at first.
VinnyS914 2 years ago
Do you have a vintage one or one of the newer ones?
CrystalHunter1989 2 years ago
It was my grandfather's in WWII.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
Hold on to that piece of history!
CrystalHunter1989 2 years ago
You bet I will.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
its not winchester its a springfield
evilmatt346 2 years ago 3
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Hehe! There were semi auto rifles better that the Garand already in 1897. If you know the Mondragon rifle you know hwat I am talking about.
JSLegoMaster 2 years ago
The Mondragon was an automatic rifle, or technically a LMG, not a general issue semi-auto gas operated battle rifle, the Mondragon was issued like the B.A.R. was.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
Haha, dam wrong. It was available as LMG with 100 rd drum mag but also as semi auto.
JSLegoMaster 2 years ago
Were talking about the first general issue gas operated clip fed semi auto battle rifle.
LoneWolf051 2 years ago
Ever heard about the Mauser fliegerkarbiner M1915?
JSLegoMaster 2 years ago
Yep, but was far outdated in time for WWII.
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JSLegoMaster 2 years ago
yes the original version of the kar98k
knight06699 2 years ago
o ok legomaster
funnyforyou69 2 years ago
Love the Garand especially that on in Chrome. This weapon has a great part in the history of the free world.
6914223841 2 years ago 2
one of the greatest rifles of all time
killerproduction1976 2 years ago 2
If you say you "rape ass" with this gun of Call of Duty, be my guest. Go shoot one for real then I'll come over and slap you on your sore shoulder and say "Hows it going of Call of Duty?"
zimpiko28 2 years ago 2
The kick on an M1 isn't that bad...the weight of the rifle and the gas action really really cuts down on recoil. Slightly worse than a .410 shot gun shell.
staticmud13 2 years ago
I know that but that one was for all the weak nerds that use COD as a fucking encyclopedia. Don't get me wrong its a great game but it just doesn't compare to the real thing.
zimpiko28 2 years ago
ha i know....i hate people that think just because they've shot it in a game they've shot it for real.
staticmud13 2 years ago 8
looks mint condition nice!!!
laxkid922 2 years ago
I LOVE THAT GUN
13recreation 2 years ago 3
automobile accident? It was NO accident, HE WAS THE ONLY ONE WHO DIED IN THE CRASH! It was planned because Russia was scared America would find out what they really wanted. Patton was right. But Patton rocked and so does the gerand!
crazycuntryboy2 2 years ago
beautiful rifle
SurfAddict999 2 years ago 4
My dad just bought a m1911 from 1944, 2000 € :O
EvilClownChannel 2 years ago
To think that the British army almost adopted this just before World War 2.
I'm a Lee Enfield fan (you have to be in no-semi-auto-UK) but still I'd say the M1 is the epitome of classic rifle design.
Treblaine 2 years ago
the winchester is beautifull!
XpumperXD 2 years ago
I just learned about CMP today and I'm already filling out the forms! I can't believe I almost paid $1500 from a dealer, what a rip! Should have my Garand in a couple of months or so. I really wish they'd offer .45's and M14's as well. Inexplicably, most of these pieces of history seem destined to become scrap when millions of Americans would gladly pay to own them.
reidnez 2 years ago
I think the .45's are unavailable because we still have them in armories because they are still used by us on the battlefield even today (although not in the numbers as before). The M14 will probably never be offered to the public as is, the only people selling real US Military M14's is the Fulton Armory. We are still using the M14, the service academies and military academies (like mine) use M14's, and because of the selective rate of fire, it will always be classified as a machine gun.
armormaster 2 years ago
I'm saving up to buy form the CMP as well. An M1 from the CMP is my next purchase! I'm just going to buy a Springfield Armory M1A, it may not have the military history of a real M14, but it will be brand new (not used and abused condition), and won't be worn down either. The Fulton Armory has a complicated and gov't-approved de-selector switching process that allows them to sell old M14's, but they are the only ones I know of that sell them
But anyway, that's a nice Winchester, nice vid!
armormaster 2 years ago
Since .30-06 ammunition is no longer stocked by DoD, M1 Rifles are useless so are better off sold, but M14s can use 7.62x51mm that is standard issue ammunition.
I have heard several accounts of M14 rifles mothballed since Vietnam being dusted off for service in Iraq/Afghanistan only now as a designated marksman's rifle, usually after some modifications such as advanced scope and/or new stock.
Treblaine 2 years ago
The ammunition might not be stocked anymore but most m1 owners reload their own ammunition now a days.
kpak44wh 2 years ago
I was thinking on a remote army base, if a soldier uses an M1 Garand for whatever reason then the quartermaster probably will not be able to provide .30-06 ammunition for range practice and deployment. They would only stock 5.56mm and 7.62mm rifle calibres.
However that is not an issue for civilians as the open market can support distribution of many different calibres, including .30-06.
Treblaine 2 years ago
yeah you're right, i just looked it up because i thought 30-06 was nato standard, but it turns out they went with a cartrige that is ALMOST the same, but not. Are there any nato standard rounds that are actually american in orgin? 9mm,5.56, 7.62, is .50cal considered nato standard?
PRussell303 2 years ago
There is a modification that involves changing the barrel of this rifle to accommodate the 7.62 x 51MM cartridge, also known as the 7.62 NATO round. This would increase its utility as a battle rifle, perhaps not in the United States, but for third world countries.
I spoke to former Phillipine Army soldier who had used one of these rifles in an engagement with the Moros of Mindanao during the 1970's. They were inclined to engage PI troops using M-16's but hesitated against M1 equipped units.
catman351 2 years ago
Thanks for the info, I didn't consider conversion. I just googled it to find the ever-industrious US Navy actually used M1 rifles converted to 7.62NATO. They were fed from 20 round M14 magazines but did you catch whether the Philippine models were the same?
Though I've always had a fondness for en-block clips from the logistic advantage of reduced overall ammo weight while being the quickest way to reload when firing prone. But real soldiering probably prefers the benefits of box magazines.
Treblaine 2 years ago
Hi:
My apologies. I do not believe that the PI models were converted to the 7.62. They are the same WW2/Korea stock that was arsenal refinished and restocked in Uncle Sam's Arms Pantry. As another aside, the U.S. sold all their tooling to the Italians, who made Beretta M-1's (which are highly prized collector's items). They made the Beretta BM-59 and the BM-62 chambered in 7.62. These rifles are purported to be higher in quality than the counterpart M-14, which is also a Garand derivative.
catman351 2 years ago
heaver rounds 30-06 going head to the 223 no contest
gunnykid 2 years ago
Oh yeah!
catman351 2 years ago
The 5.56 fragments though, creating un-healible would cavities.
Of course you really can't compare an intermediate cartridge to a full sized rifle cartridge.
Personally I don't see why we don't just go back to battle rifles. Update the FAL, G3, or M14 and we would be set. The intermediate cartridge was really for closer combat and rapid fire (StG 44), but I think with the invention of the battle rifle, there are little advantages to the assault rifle.
MurderSoul216 2 years ago
the m-14 was a great rifle you could hit somebody at 800 yards in a trained hands and it gave a solution to a million dollar answer with a thousand dollar solution
gunnykid 2 years ago
While I do the the M14 (Garand with external mags), I believe the FAL was the superior weapon of that era.
MurderSoul216 2 years ago
30-06 best all round cartridge ever invented.
BigDumbJerk 2 years ago
Filipino Christian militias in the southern Philippines still use them to defend their farms, homes, and families from Muslim intruders, as well as still in service with the government forces as a reserve-issue weapon.
It's been 60 years, and still kickin' ass.
purpleravenstar 2 years ago
yesterday was my 15th birthday and my dad gave me my grandfathers m1 garand, man i love it!
ShaneThompson94 3 years ago
ur fucking lying
lettermen14 3 years ago
fuck you no im not,!
ShaneThompson94 3 years ago
Damn that's the shit.
DEANaLEAN 3 years ago
i know its aweswome, i never thought my dad would of given it to me till i was at least 18, :)
ShaneThompson94 2 years ago
go shoot it...
blair91234 2 years ago
me and my dad are as soon as possible, but we need to buy some 30.06 bullets, i have two clips my grandfather used in the war, :) its aweosme
ShaneThompson94 2 years ago
are you a member of the cmp
gunnykid 2 years ago
no, what is the cmp?
ShaneThompson94 2 years ago
its a goverment owned store filled with surplus weapons like the garand,carbean,1903, and cheap 30-06 ammo.CMP stands for civlian marksmanship program you can by online but you have to be a member fill some paper work and if you buy a rifle you have to wait 60 to 90 days ammo is like 1 to 2 weeks
gunnykid 2 years ago
ok, i might look into that! thanks :)
ShaneThompson94 2 years ago
lucky i got a 22 revolver im buying a garand from the cmp in alabama
gunnykid 2 years ago
thats kickass
SKATEFREAKO54 3 years ago
I love my 1944 Springfield Armory built Garand.
BrynMawrYamBag 3 years ago
Thank you Mr Garrison for this informative commentary
Harry42 3 years ago
Jeez, if they didnt say that was chrome plated I'd almost think it was a render, man that thing is a beauty.
DieUMuslim 3 years ago
My friend Dj has a M1 Garand Rifle.
Nickpooch 3 years ago
faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaascinating...
IrishSpirit3 3 years ago
Best rifle of WWII and Korea!!!
TriggerJunkie 3 years ago 3
This IS! the greatest Battle Implement! XD!~
rancid753 3 years ago 3
Mbond18, what country are you in? If you are an American, you might be able to purchase one from the Civilian Marksmanship Program.
If you are not an American, unfortunately, this does not apply.
SergeantC2 3 years ago
fuck this gun is such a beauty... sadly it's banned in austria :( without any reason... normally we can own semi auto rifles. but they say this gun can be made to a fully auto rifle just too easy. dunno if this is true.
Wiggling 3 years ago
The M1 itself may not be real easy to convert to full auto, but I would recommend that you look up the M-14. That is essentially a M-1 that has been converted to use a 20 round detachable box magazine, a little less wood, and a screw on the gas cylinder that could be turned to convert it from full auto to semi-auto. The U.S. army still uses the M-14, but it's now more commonly known as the M-21.
panzerrat 3 years ago
Wasnt the garand a 30-06? My friends dad has a couple and he said it fired a 30-06
weaponsman5000 3 years ago
yes it is .30-06 but that was the standard .30 caliber ammunition used by the army during ww2 so they just called it .30 caliber.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
i really want one of those!!
barnett682 3 years ago
this shit was in medal of honor heroes its fucking awesome
woweevids 3 years ago 2
Got to love the Garand.
captianmeints 3 years ago 2
That's a damn beautiful rifle.
NewKokujinOptions 3 years ago 2
I want a Garand. That is my favorite WWII gun. I am only 19, but my great grandfather fought in WWII. I wish I Could get one..haha
MBond18 3 years ago
great pice of history..
blackmondae 3 years ago
I love my Garand too, I wouldnt trade it for anything in the world :)
LegacyForce 3 years ago
I love my Garand, its my favorite gun to fire. Mine was made in 44 and I still use it to hunt deer to this day. Great Rifle!
minuteman3 3 years ago
that is a good weapon
felixbullot 3 years ago
the m1 garand was built by more than just winchester and springfield they also were built by harrington and richards, and International Harvester
apyle90 3 years ago 3
can you two pls stop arguing?? Thanks!
my a/c is broken! omg. im on cam too lol! tu
403212 3 years ago
Is the man narrating this that creepy megachurch minister who got busted buying meth and male hookers? Sounds like him.
RMBowden 3 years ago
no se que poner, solo que bonito, que bonito, junto con la Thompson, el Kar 98 aleman, la MP40 alemana son los simbolos mas conocidos de la WWII
NFARS 3 years ago
anywhere we can go to get more info and pics on the presentation piece, god damn it looks amazing
falloutdude222 3 years ago
it was developed by springfield, not winchester
srednaslenoloc 3 years ago
They were manufactured by several companies, Winchester included. Mine is a Winchester make.
Badco99 3 years ago
man i got to shoot this rifle yesterday at the range and it was awesome. the concussion was pretty strong from 10 feet away. i am going to buy one as soon as i can.
disturbedone5009 3 years ago
OK, gun buffs. What kind of groups do these rifles shoot at 100 yds from the bench?
dogterd 3 years ago
If you know what your doing and you adjust your windage correctly,you can reach fairly far. My personal best was 7/8 rounds on a 24/72 silhouette target at 300yards.I did fairly well,Ive had alot of time with the Garand.Mine was an original Korean War era Garand given to my Great Uncle by an American Officer for his quartly service, my great uncle was wounded and detailed to be the officers "secretary". Pretty neat. It was stolen a couple months ago and recovered in a drainage pipe.Thanks thugs!
IBleedRedWhiteNBlue 3 years ago
so hows the gun recovery going...
letshavewhat1111 3 years ago
The Garand was recovered like I had said before. In a drainage pipe/ditch not to far from my house. They ditched the bulky items and took mostly pistols and a few letters from kin dating back from the Civil War all the way to Vietnam. Its truly sickening man. I honestly cried because it was so much of my families history you know? I think the crooks thought it was Tax info or something to steal m identity, im not sure. It was in a leather breifcase. I dont think Ill get them back.
IBleedRedWhiteNBlue 3 years ago
Falloutdude222. Rebel gunworks. Brisbane
deanp09 3 years ago
thanks mate
falloutdude222 3 years ago
A gunshop in Australia has one for sale at the moment. Winchester made, unused in original grease $4950 ausd.
deanp09 3 years ago
link? what shop? i'd love to get my hands on one, even deac'ied' just for display. semi automatic rifles are like rocking horse shit here, arent they outlawed?
btw this presentation piece looks stunning all chromed up!
falloutdude222 3 years ago
a really great weapon
Lyricoholic 3 years ago
WWI or WWII? its from WWI right?
Netinterspace 3 years ago
WWII
Netinterspace 3 years ago
i agree with southern 661
con7361 3 years ago
the M1 should still be used today. round bout the easiest rifle to reload in history. great power. great accuracy. great look.
Southern661 3 years ago 4
it still is used but more as a ceremonial weapon.But you don't know rebel or para-military force somewhere in the world may still use them, as the Thompson was used by rebels in Bosnia in the 90's,it is a possibility.
colbertLOTR91 3 years ago
his name is properly pernounced GARE-UND, rhyming with errand
mistabluntz 3 years ago
what a beautiful rifle!!!!
salvadormuniz 3 years ago
i never new patton died in europe in a car accident
wesleytj 3 years ago
nore me i knew he died in 1945
extreamgamer101 3 years ago
That Chrome Winchester must be worth $25,000 and up!
ridutche 3 years ago
b way more than 25k, a one of a kind, b was ment to be presented to someone. ya can make a replica but the history that that particular rifle has atached to it cant be copied
trentj81 3 years ago
There is three guns i just love: M1 Garand, M16, and Tommygun.
VenWom 3 years ago
I already have a tommy gun replica. All I need is a garand and I'm good. PS... check out the marushin airsoft m1.
HolyDiverII757 3 years ago
I will.
VenWom 3 years ago
I like this gun !
Corsicatitude 3 years ago
it is worth more then 1000 and i have one from world war 2
silentdeath26 3 years ago
it costs more than an m4 o_o
luzac159 3 years ago
Beautiful rifle!:)
damhun 3 years ago 2
That hoop is usually on fire since the its the wife. I've checked out CMP and I'm glad I am a member of a local gun club that has service rifle competitions. I was about to shell out three times as much if it didn't mention my next wish to a fellow shooter. Thanks dreiband for the advice. No one can go wrong with CMP.
sierrareloader 3 years ago
You need to fill that empty space, sierrareloader! You can get an M1 from the CMP very easily, at a reasonable price. Just jump through a few hoops, not hard if you're a shooter.
dreiband 3 years ago