Chinese are not Tibetans. OK ? Tibetans are not Chinese. OK ?
Tibet is not China. OK ? China is not Tibet. OK ? Well why do Chinese occupy Tibet since 1950 ? How would it be if Tibetans were ruling China ? So , Chinese, get out of Tibet. You are univited guests ! My country Holland once was occupied by Germans. They are gone now. We Dutch are masters in our own country again. Germans are our friends now.So, how can Chinese become friends of the Tibetans ? What do you think ........
the british still carries certain level of colonist master level of animosity towards china. before worl war2, the great british empire extented from sun rise to sun down. now, it is yelling at china for colonizacation. what about its best friend usa. half of usa is from mexico, but bbc never even used a word of colonization on usa. why? because they are amigos.
your arguments about the killings of millions of people around the world by different nations is correct. It was WRONG then and it is WRONG now! We cannot undo history, but we can change our current & future behaviors.
Interesting. China borrowed this trick from the former South-African government. First take their land, then tell the world how the economic position of the run over country has improved (for those who collaborate or betray their landsman) and then make those who want their country back criminals. Spice this up by creating a HAN loving clique heavy indoctrinated by a communist education. The finishing touch is to veto out all those in UN who are in favor of human rights. Et voila!
You don't know your self but don't worry one day China will be a better place and when that day comes I won't say I told you so, i'll embrace as a fellow member of society. I can only hope you will as mature and understanding when the PRC falls from power and a democracy can flourish. By the way I'm won't be checking any more comments from you any more so please don't reply to me any more.
To tell you the truth I only commented to you video because I had time to kill between classes and I found your video amusing. I know you are incapable of doing any harm to me in any shape or form and I have much more thing to be grateful then you so I should be ashamed picking on you like a child. I'm sorry.
but it only seems to me that when people speak against your side on this issue people usually end up imprisoned, tortured, and if they resist pledging allegiance to your country they'll be killed. I find that disturbing but I'm sure you wouldn't know anything about that because the PRC doesn't educate students on things like that. It's not your fault and my argument is not with you, at the end of the day you are human with the same frailties as me and so I don't take offense to your words at all
Hey I honestly apologies for offending you. It's obvious you took my words to heart and seem immensely offended, I didn't mean to make you cry. I didn't know you could be so sensitive and heart broken to words that are only offering facts that are documented in countries with freedom of speech. I think it's good that middle school students such as yourself are active and wish to speak out on behalf of your beliefs it's just I think maybe after a college education you should do things like this.
seriously i have to go to class now and i suggest you do the same. You know something along the lines of English reading and comprehension or something like that. Good luck once again!
to Tenzidawa1{seriously i have to go to class now and i suggest you do the same. You know something along the lines of English reading and comprehension or something like that} if your english is not good ,u can study hard and then improve it ,, but if u've been brain washed too deep and u can't see what the truth is,now that is sad!! it doesn't matter how hard u study it won't be able to help u to see between right and wrong!! because education doesn't teach u how to see the truth!
to Tenzidawa2 ,,,if one learn the truth in the morning ,one would never regret dying the same evening...I'll suggest you to be a gentleman cultivates your self virtuously and works earnestly,,,good luck once again :-)
to Tenzidawa,,, hey one last thing I'm gonna mention it here though,,, please go to any book shop in uk,us or euro and buy the latest world map and see where tibet is,,,,until u've seen the new world map if u still can't accept the fact still trying to evilized china and living in yesterday then be my guest,,hope u enjoy my comment and hope u can understand my english, please forgive my poor english, if there's any spelling or sentence had mistakes,,,god bless u
well i'm done ruining you for today, but seriously though all jokes aside i say this with the up most compassion for you and your future "good luck in school" BYE GOOD BYE BUDDY MY, HAVE NICELY DAY!
to Tenzidawa,,{well i'm done ruining you for today, but seriously though all jokes aside i say this with the up most compassion for you and your future "good luck in school } that's rite this is what u were after, say bad thing and look down on people who don't speak good english to ruin people day in order to make your self feel better!! I see ,, u know what ?your jokes is not funny but u are so funny,,to ruin people day and correct english actually make u feel good?!ha ha HAVE A NICE LIFE,,
You wouldn't be surprised if the mayor of London was from York, would you?
That one single sentence had three mistakes alone, wow. I'm not even going to explain how you messed that up. Oh my god it took 7 messages to correct your stupidity, and you even erased one of them, and i had a good joke in that one. Don't be bitter and grow up (starting with your writing skills). Then you may have some right to correct BBC. No i don't human rights (no pun intended) i mean right amongst the educated.
For like the third maybe fourth time now, and only 2 minutes into the video you happen to spell china in all caps and it's funny because even youtube's spell checker isn't telling me to capitalize the c, so i won't. But you still shouldn't spell china in all caps. Also take the s out of "part of" china or say "both parts of".
And finally yess the last sentence! I am so happy i'm almost done with this, but depressed i even began doing to this. Damn it i ran out of space to type again! I hate you
Why are the people in Tibet allowed a "foreign" leader?
i think that's what you meant to say.... It's so painful to read this because your english actually gets worse as you continue reading. It's like your propaganda makes less sense as you keep pulling loads out your rectum that you brain becomes less and less useful resulting in you become dumber and dumber. Even i feel dumber reading this, why am i proof reading this!
to Tenzidawa1{if u think tibetan culture and civilisation been destroyed by chinese then u should travel to tibet and see,,,or if u think tibet should be independent and dalai lama should be the king of tibet then let me ask u shouldn't the white american all go back to europe and give the land back to native american??? shouldn't the white australians all go back to europe and give the land back to the Aborigines??shouldn't israel give it back to arabians??
to Tenzidawa2,,, European were masscare95% of the Native Americans that's about 25million ,culture and civilisation were destroyed by the europeans from16th century to 17th century and took away they land ,,,and today u have 30million native american in the world,, why didn't u say anything about it?why didn't u tell the europeans go back to europe return the land back to the native americans?
You cannot justify 1 wrong with another wrong. Common now man, chinese are know for their sensible philosophy, not for their idiocy. Plz dont insult chinese peoples intellegence by bringing up such dumm argument.
to weRfreAkZ,,,actually long before beijing olympic I already know CNN,BBC and some other western media are not reliable and often told negative view in asia ,like malaysia,thailand,india,burma, afgan, russia and more ,, this time to china is not a new thing at all,,,,this bbc,cnn oftenly used controversy and propaganda to represent asians and asia countries as diabolical,,,
to weRfreAkZ,,,, PRC has done far more for the Tibetans than any other government/leader (dalai lama) in the entire Tibetan history and that is truth,,,PRC they are not prefect the Chinese know but we mustnt forget rome was not build in one day,,, china had a very sad history in the last 2century,,,right now china look forward to meet the world,,so just try to understand and accept it ,,,dont hate china or Chinese coz they are your brothers and sisters they are your future too,,
to Tenzidawa3,,during the european colonization in afica from 16th to 18th everyday hundred of thousand black people were killed, torture, rape,slavery and steal their good back to europe and america,,shouldn't the white people return all the treasure they steal from the black people ?during second world war japanese invaded most of the countries in asia, everyday hundred of thousand of people died, it 's caused the Humanities worst disaster of all time,but japanese are still denial the truth
to Tenzidawa4,,,japanese are damn proud of them self because they Pretended to not to see the truth
and tried to hide the lies, disguise them self Through living in denial !! it's absolutely disgusting ,,, well if u think chinese or china are the most evil nation in the world,, well be my guest,,,,,
That animosity chinese have against japan, is the same animosity tibetans have against PRC. China is doing excatly the same thing to Tibet . I think fate of tibetan should be solely left to tibetans, and have the tibetans living in Tibet vote on what they want, without any interference from the government or the Han Chinese.
1,to weRfreAkZ ,,,First Sino-Japanese War of 18941895,ceded the islands of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu to Japan,,,August 14, 1900. eight nation alliance Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Russia the United Kingdom, and the United States , 450 million taels of silver were to be paid as indemnity over a course of 39 years to the eight nations involved US$6.653 billion today ,,and forced to sign 12 unequal treaty,,,,,
2,to weRfreAkZ ,,,The May Fourth Movement ,in Beijing on May 4, 1919 , the return to China of the territory and rights of Shandong, which Japan had taken from Germany during World War I.,,,,The May Fourth Movement ,in Beijing on May 4, 1919 , the return to China of the territory and rights of Shandong, which Japan had taken from Germany during World War I.,,, Nanking Massacre December 13, 1937,,, 300,000 Chinese were mass murdered,,
3,to weRfreAkZ,, Comfort women,, the Japanese government denies legal liability for the creation and maintenance of the system of comfort stations and comfort women used during World War II., according to the Japanese government, individual comfort women dont deserve compensation,,,,
4,to weRfreAkZ, The conflict lasted for 8 years,1 month, and 3 days(measured from 1937 to 1945).The Chinese casualties were 3.22 million soldiers, 9.13 million civilians were collateral damage, and another 8.4 million were non-military casualties, at least 2.7 million civilians died during the "kill all, loot all, burn all" japs even deny that a widespread, systematic massacre occurred at all ! after 72 years japs government still didn't issue any offical apologize to chinese and those victims?
5,to weRfreAkZ,,,prior to 1959, 95% of Tibetans lived in 'feudal serfdom',[2] and cite cases of abuse and cruelty in the traditional Tibetan system,, Before the democratic reform, education was monopolized by monasteries and more than 95 percent of Tibetans were illiterate
6,to weRfreAkZ,,Nowadays, illiteracy among adults under the age of 50 has fallen to below 2.4 percent.,,, The economy has moved forward in leaps and bounds. From 1959 to 2008, Tibet's GDP increased from 174 million yuan to 39.591 billion yuan, an increase of 65 times when accounting for inflation, an annual growth rate of 8.9 percent.
7,to weRfreAkZ,,,, Tibetan population has seen a rapid growth in the past 50 years, and according to national census figures ethnic Tibetans account for more than 95 percent of the region's population. The region's birth rate has been above the national average since 1970 because of a lenient family planning policy. Eighty percent of Tibetan farmers and herdsmen are free to have as many children as they want. Only urban Tibetans have to follow a two-child family planning policy.
you suck at english, spelling, and sentence structure. You should correct a 2nd grade reading comprehension book before you go correcting a BBC documentary. Where did you learn English any way? from Jacky Chan?
You know what i'm not ready to correct that last sentence yet, becuase i have to get this off of my chest. If China wants to create propaganda at least cover you tracks of BS by at least leaving it in charge with someone who has an education! ok now i'm ready YOU LUCKY SO ARE!
to Tenzidawa 1,,{you suck at english, spelling, and sentence structure. You should correct a 2nd grade reading comprehension book before you go correcting a BBC documentary. Where did you learn English any way? from Jacky Chan? } u seens so frustrated with his english but ironically u can understand all the things that he was trying to say !!,,,and I think his english is prefectly fine as long as people can understand ,that's about it coz we are not having english lesson here haha are we ??
to Tenzidawa2 {where did you learn english anyway?from jacky chan?} jackie chan english may not be that good or have an american or british accent that's coz he's wasn't born in those countries and english is wasn't his first langguege and he's not an english teacher!! but at least he manage to make english langguege movies in hollywood and speak only english in the movie!! does any hollywood actors or actresses can come to any asia countries to make an asian movie and speak their langguege??
"it must be embarrassing for BBC" not " it must be embarrassed for BBC"
(by the way it way there is irony there, just thought i'd mention that)
"where it has been a province for China"
Not "where has been a province of CHINA"
ok the last sentence is so bad i have to do it on another post...........this must be so embarrassing for Chinese people, you really shot your self in the foot with this one.
to Tenzidawa ,,{this must be so embarrassing for Chinese people, you really shot your self in the foot with this one.} langguege is a tools for people to communicate not to show off,,,, for those who think langguege is a tools for them to show off then you really shot your self in the foot with this one. .
And no i don't mean just loosing your job and if you have any kind of educational document saying you completed any level of school it should be burned to light a cigarette so i can smoke it to help relieve the immense amount of stress you have caused. Ok now i'm going to proof read your errors YOU ENGLISH BAD GUY SPEAKINGER!
Ok after No. 3 i'm done with this, i don't have time to correct a child's show and tell project. You butchered the English language so bad that if you are a Chinese pencil pusher in an office of a basement payed only in the form of crackers and a water fountain, you still deserve to be fired.
to Tenzidawa ,,{Ok after No. 3 i'm done with this, i don't have time to correct a child's show and tell project.} perhaps no one ever expect u to do that ??! {You butchered the English language so bad that if you are a Chinese pencil pusher in an office of a basement payed only in the form of crackers and a water fountain, you still deserve to be fired.} what is it got to do to u what people does and if he deserve to be fired?? don't u think u're a bit overreacting?and bossy??
No. Nooooooo it clearly said in English, which you don't seem too fluent in, that 20% of the male population of Tibet were monks, first off.
I also want to ask are you sure those images of Tibetans tortures were not by Chinese? I mean it's not the much of a stretch of the imagination that they could be, i'm just asking.
Once again NO a majority of Tibetans were not slaves (pay attention) they were nomads and farmers.
You already have three fails with the little message alone and this video is 8 minutes long. I'm sorry but your attempt fails miserably and you should be ashamed for misrepresenting China's image in such a comedic and back firing way. Do your self a favor and finish school before you go off running your mouth amongst adults. Good luck in school
to Tenzidaw{ Do your self a favor n finish school before u go off running your mouth amongst adults.Good luck in school }no offend so do u mean if people who's not good in english or not as good as u are not allowed to share their comments here or not allowed to speak??english to many out there it's their first language,second,third or even none at least they've tried, in fact many english speaker can only speak english,,yes your english may be good but definitely not your point of view
I'm only 45 seconds into this video i'm already offended by the butchering of the english language and lack of education trying to provide intelligence.
No. 1 it's not "broadcast a "documentary"" for two reasons.... Broadcasted because it is past tense and you don't have to quote "documentary" why did you do that?
No. 2 it's not "one side story" it's "one sided story"
No. 3 it's not "As it always do to china" it's "As it has always done to china" and yes i know I didn't capitalize china
to Tenzidawa,, {I'm only 45 seconds into this video i'm already offended by the butchering of the english language and lack of education trying to provide intelligence} only 45 second u're already offended by the english?!it seens like u're more interested to prove that your english is better then others but not tibet.I
think voiletli
is trying to share his point of view and tell people what he think and feel about the BBC documentary ,,, but it's not having english lesson here thanks mate,,
this is really what the chinese are taught in schools. they really believe this. they dont even know the cultural genocide and the mass extermination of people in china during the cultural revolution. its like if polpot of cambodia except 100 times greater. this is our number 1 trading partner and holder of our debt china owns us as well. what is a poor serf to do. might makes right and writes the history.
we need more video like this to tell the world what we are actually thinking ,, I am not even expecting the world to believe this or not but at least letting people out there to know that it is not only the british and american are living in this world and many of us are also living in the same world too, the asians,aficans,russians,australian,, and more,god bless you
lies, half truths, mis information sounds like what they teach in china comi schools. why dont u fucken interview the poor who escaped who were part of the serf class. some may say life was hard. but it is much worse. from the destruction of chinas rich culture 2 the destruction of another. worse then hitler at least the germans have shame of what there people did. chinese today no shame. did the same to its own people killed millions. mao's little demons see genoside as virtue.I have been there
just to add to what Perrypang had to say 83 commissioners no matter how big is not enough to contradict BBC's opinion on how untouched Tibet's population of over 6 million was at the time. In fact it proves that to have a post in Tibet for over 200 years and to only have 83 people working there it proves there was not much happening to begin with. I'm sorry violetli but your attempt to prove BBC wrong failed and now you look stupid for every person that reads this. Good luck in school
Viceroy of India: Chinese suzerainty over Tibet is a constitutional fiction...a political affectation which has only been maintained because of its convenience to both parties. ... As a matter of fact, the two Chinese (ie, Manchu) Ambans at Lhasa are there not as Viceroys, but as Ambassadors.
[Papers CD 1920, No.66, GoI to IO, 8 Jan. 1903. India Office Library]
in fact, this had been the case since the end of the 18th century.
2. Ms Dhondup Chodon, "Life in the Red Flag People's Commune" I belong to what the Chinese now term as serfs of Tibet. ... There were 6 of us in the family. ... My home was a double-storeyed building with a walled compound. On the
ground floor we used to keep our animals. We had 4 yaks, 27 sheep and goats, 2 donkeys and a land-holding of 4.5 khel (0.37 hectares). ... We never had any difficulty earning our livelihood. There was not a single beggar in our area.
3. will it suprise you to know the mayor of london must be a citizen of london while there are no restrictions on the birthplace of the DL.
kham and amdo are undeniably parts fo tibet, not china.
4. the 5th DL and Manchu Emperor
bestowed unprecedented high complimentary titles upon each other
and the ch-yn relationship was reaffirmed. The Chinese Govt refers only to the honorific title given by Shunzi to DL, but leaves out any mention of the similar honorific title granted by DL to Shunzi.
4. Chinese propaganda infers that it was this deed by the Manchu Emperor Shunzi which conferred the legal right to the Dalai Lama to rule Tibet. This interpretation intentionally misses the point of the event, namely that titles were exchanged by two sovereign leaders. If the Dalai Lama was dependent on his imperial title for the exercise of his authority, then so was the Manchu Emperor dependent on the title granted by the Dalai Lama for the exercise of his authority.
typo, that last '4' should have been 4-5 together
6. these rights were no longer practiced tho the chinese penchant for 'death by a 1,000 cuts' continued to flourish up into the cultural revolution.
7. were those photos taken in modern serflord state cpc china, inc.? who cares about the peasants? certainly not cpc party officials. CASS, Chinese Academy of the CPC and RCSC: 90% of china's wealthiest, 2,932 out of 3,220 yuan billionaires, are children of senior party officials.
As the Canadian Legation, Chungking, China advised Ottawa in 1944: there is no doubt that official China is determined to swallow Sinkiang, Tibet, Outer Mongolia, Kansu and Sikang, no matter what the people living in those regions may feel about the matter. The Legation added: The Chinese do not see that the attempt to compel the Tibetans to allow themselves and their country to be incorporated as an integral part of China is most definitely an act of aggression.
You bend the truth to fit the facts. The number of Tibetans killed by the Han Chinese is over a million. Oh yes! The Tibetans have such a great live under Communist rule! Their religion taken away, 6000 of their temples blown up, their land stolen, their natural recources stolen to boost Chinese economy (just like Mao planned it), nature destroyed, Han Chinese imported by tens of thousands. Oh what joy!! The Tibetans must be so happy!!
voiletli. u get my support. hang on mate. not everyone is the west is as brainwashed. some of us can still make up fair evaluations. i love China. and am a big Tibet fan. and the only problem is the coverage this area gets. Unfair, Unjust and Untrue to a population of more than 1.5 billion. A modern-era-of-Hollywood-polished-hypocrite-spirituality in the sad sad west (to those reading, what u doing here anyway? haven't u got something u wanna shop for? go and spend)
This is video is a load of shit, these chinese are destroing one of the worlds heritage and future. If any of you have a little idea what is in Tibet and the values of these people that would be GREAT. The holy mount Kailash is there and this is where is the answer of our exitence and future. Yes It is a piramid just like the ones in th Americas and Egypt and and the largest on found in Bosna and may are yet to be found. We are just getting the answers people open your eyes
Same old shit. Chinese trying to relieve their inner sense of guilt and shame by pointing to the old system in Tibet. All this in an effort to rationalize and justify invasion, occupation, murder, torture, looting, outright stealing, intentional movement of Han-Chinese into Tibetan territories, renaming of streets, erecting Chinese monument to lie about Tibet's history, destruction of thousands of monasteries, limits on monks and nuns, etc. The list goes on and on. Tibetans are not Chinese!
Some stupid westerners like you have no brain to understand that china contains 56 ethnics. Han chinese is not the only ethnic. There are 55 others, including zang(Tibetan, live in Xizang,Qinghai and Sichuan), Mongolian who live mainly in Inter Mogolia, Hui who are mainly Islamic and live in Xinjiang and also the one you mentioned Manchu who ruled china when your drug dealer ancestors first met Chinese. Check with your great great great father if Manchu are chinese,U pathetic.
you pathetic chinese.. who were brain washed by their own govt with fake history. Use your common sense the whole world agrees on one pt and your govt is persistant on thier views. One of truth that you mentioned that dalai lama was born in quinghai which is called amdo but dalai lama doesnt speak chinese.. the china is also ruled by non chinese which is manchu, which is actually part of mongolian tribes. What if mongol comes and says historically china is part of mongol.. would you agree that??
WOW...your general ignorance is astonishing. Please try to learn something about the history of China and the cultural and ethnic composition of the Chinese population before making a fool of yourself in public.
Also, just out of curiosity, how do you define "the whole world?" Does it include Alaska and Hawaii, or just the lower 48?
There is no policy that force Han migrate to there. and there is no killing of Tibetan people happening now. I have been there for a month in 2004, all i have seen were friendly and wonderful people who considered them as Chinese Tibetan. Why ruin 7 million Tibetan people's life in China because of the 0.05 million Tibetan refugees who are manipulated by politicians? If everyone in Tibet hates Hans, those 5% hans in Tibet region will never survive.
The Tibetan population is around 92% in Tibet now, and the figure has been all above 90% after 1950'. If you dont belive that, go there and account yourself. Tibetan people receive free 9 year education, 80% free medical service and can have more than one kids, all of which are better than Han chinese people in the rest of China (from a documentary called 'a year in Tibet' made by BBC).
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Yeah..thanks man. Now I feel totally at peace with China human rights record. I mean, Tibet has long been a place for suffering, so what are we to do. Good Job!!
Oh, by the way, what do you think China is going to do with the 30,000 Tibetans it has arrested and which are rotting away in some Chinese prison right now?? I dunno..maybe they'll given them the death penalty along with the other 10,000 people they have put to death since 2000. More than the rest of the world combined, 7 times over.
Chinese should send 30.000 Tibetans to the US. people will love them, give them human rights and if they still not happy, dont want to work, just kill a few americans (easy job for them) then they get a single room in the jail and the rest US tax payers will give them a nice rest of their lives. Be careful with which state they choose though, some of the states in the US do have death penalty...
That is one idea...but I have another. How about China stops killing the Tibetans. Stops its policy of forced migration of Han Chinese into Tibet (now Tibetans are a minority in their own homeland). If you really think Tibet belongs to China, then give them the human rights that all Chinese ppl deserve.
Obviously you now nothing about Xizang(tibet), which,I understand, is not your fault. However it is really a shame that you keep showing off your ignorance and brain-less. Shut up or go back to do some real homework!
rainmaker102, please do some research on Ethnic Chinese's rights in China. I think you'll be surprised to learn that contrary to popular Western belief, ethnic minorities in China, of which Tibetans are one of 55, enjoy MORE rights and privileges than the Han Chinese.
no matter Chinese media or westen media, at list they have one thing in common..They only report what they intend to report,tell ppl what goverment want ppl to konw.
That '17 point agreement' kindly offered Dalai Lama and other monks, nobles a life long guaranteed pension scheme paid by Chinese government for the exchage of them giving their land to all the slaves, who are 95% of Tibet population and all illiterate. By the mean time, tibet receives a high autonomous right still by Dalai Lama. So that you know, the majority of Tibetan were happy, even Dalai Lama joyfully accept the new position as the vice president of National People's Congress there after.
Tibet was liberated from a theocratic regime led by you beloved Dalai Lama. It gets the chance to claimed its 'independent'(to whoever) only because the World War and its civil war. But because of the fact that it was a inhuman theocratic regime, not a single country in the world acknowledge 'Tibet' as a country. And one will be very suprised if it can be listed in the United Nations for the sake of the 'human rights'.
Its the ugly British who stage the "Tibet Independence" in 1912 and then colonised her later, but nobody recognised it. See how Tibetans they killed in 1903/04.
IF Tibet was part of China there was no need for the 17 point agreement which was forced upon the Tibetan deligation to sign in China in 1951 - then China announced to the world that 'Tibet was liberated' (from who!!!)?
It is only after the Japanese invasion in World War Two and civil war between Kuomintang and Communist Party, did the new Chinese government have the power and time to fight with Tibet which declared independence one-sidedly with the support of British India. However, neither Republic of China (1912-1949) nor People's Republic of China (1949-present) renounced its claim to the sovereignty of Tibet.
Honestly at the begining, I think it's stupid to forbide western jounalist during the riots.
After seeing all those "indepent, free, fair" media "shows", I turned out to support the Chinese goverment.They don't deserve there! They only report what they intend to report.
By the way, be careful to use "all over the world". On the other hand,It does tell how your "independent" medias manipulate the news. Study History, Not Media!
Tibet, I hate this english name. I now will call its chinse name xizang.
Xizang has been part of china undoubtly since the Qing Dynasty for over 200 years. Isn't that long enough ? How long is USA's history? According to the Legislation Law, Tibet is a part of China.
Rich Cluture? Do you mean feudalism? theocracy ?90% illiterate? If you call removal those "destroy", I approve this kind of "Distory". Don't you ever learn the dark age in European?
Hi, Bran-washed guy, Have you ever been to Tibet?? Have you seen people's life in Tibet? how do you define 'Independent media'?? How do you know they are 'Independent'?? Because they call themselves? or because you have been taught in School??
Tibet has atleast 1300 years of independance.China & Tibet ended almost 200 years of fighting with a treaty engraved on 3 stone pillars.The treaty reads in part:Tibet & China shall keep the country and fronters of which they now possess. CHINA DOES NOT OWN TIBET. THEY BRUTALY DESTROYED A RICH CULTURE - FOR WHAT?
Well done, BBC lately has prooved itself completely lost their objectivity whenever it comes to issues concerning China. From just showing negative sides of China to use unconfirmed source of information on purpose just so they can manipulate the public voice.
BBC supporter, can't you just try to hear some other voices? Its time to start trying some things instead of just throwing your hands in the air and dismissing the other side as brainwashed, indoctrinated or oppressed. There's life out there folks, try making contact
There are no arguements for Tibet to be occupied by China. Try not to invent them.
wuhwuh 1 month ago
Chinese are not Tibetans. OK ? Tibetans are not Chinese. OK ?
Tibet is not China. OK ? China is not Tibet. OK ? Well why do Chinese occupy Tibet since 1950 ? How would it be if Tibetans were ruling China ? So , Chinese, get out of Tibet. You are univited guests ! My country Holland once was occupied by Germans. They are gone now. We Dutch are masters in our own country again. Germans are our friends now.So, how can Chinese become friends of the Tibetans ? What do you think ........
wuhwuh 1 month ago
不管怎么说,中共的垮台只是时间的问题。中共倒了西藏新疆等非中华地区都能圆满独立!
stagea3776 9 months ago
闭嘴!西藏从来不是中国!很不幸1951年被中国侵略!我看到此视频,我只能佩服中国人的造谣制造能力!
stagea3776 9 months ago
@stagea3776 We were together from 1200s a.c.
chimak3d 2 months ago
the british still carries certain level of colonist master level of animosity towards china. before worl war2, the great british empire extented from sun rise to sun down. now, it is yelling at china for colonizacation. what about its best friend usa. half of usa is from mexico, but bbc never even used a word of colonization on usa. why? because they are amigos.
eastern2western 9 months ago
also, if i didn't know better, the end of this video almost sounds like a threat!
"Move your butt away from Chinese INTERNAL Affairs !!!!"
& if there is an "implied" threat, China is worse that it was 100 years ago!
jerrysdog 1 year ago
@Tenzidawa @pangcheetat1980
your arguments about the killings of millions of people around the world by different nations is correct. It was WRONG then and it is WRONG now! We cannot undo history, but we can change our current & future behaviors.
the US needs to get out of the middle east, now!
China needs to get out of Tibet, now!
Israel need to stop occupying Palestine, now!
ALL other occupiers need to stop, now!
it is ALL about greed & power & money.
Where is the humanity in us all?
jerrysdog 1 year ago
@jerrysdog Why US people dont get out US? and give back the land to native Indians.
chimak3d 2 months ago
@chimak3d I am Native American!
jerrysdog 2 weeks ago
Interesting. China borrowed this trick from the former South-African government. First take their land, then tell the world how the economic position of the run over country has improved (for those who collaborate or betray their landsman) and then make those who want their country back criminals. Spice this up by creating a HAN loving clique heavy indoctrinated by a communist education. The finishing touch is to veto out all those in UN who are in favor of human rights. Et voila!
IFTPOT 1 year ago
You don't know your self but don't worry one day China will be a better place and when that day comes I won't say I told you so, i'll embrace as a fellow member of society. I can only hope you will as mature and understanding when the PRC falls from power and a democracy can flourish. By the way I'm won't be checking any more comments from you any more so please don't reply to me any more.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
To tell you the truth I only commented to you video because I had time to kill between classes and I found your video amusing. I know you are incapable of doing any harm to me in any shape or form and I have much more thing to be grateful then you so I should be ashamed picking on you like a child. I'm sorry.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
but it only seems to me that when people speak against your side on this issue people usually end up imprisoned, tortured, and if they resist pledging allegiance to your country they'll be killed. I find that disturbing but I'm sure you wouldn't know anything about that because the PRC doesn't educate students on things like that. It's not your fault and my argument is not with you, at the end of the day you are human with the same frailties as me and so I don't take offense to your words at all
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
Hey I honestly apologies for offending you. It's obvious you took my words to heart and seem immensely offended, I didn't mean to make you cry. I didn't know you could be so sensitive and heart broken to words that are only offering facts that are documented in countries with freedom of speech. I think it's good that middle school students such as yourself are active and wish to speak out on behalf of your beliefs it's just I think maybe after a college education you should do things like this.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
seriously i have to go to class now and i suggest you do the same. You know something along the lines of English reading and comprehension or something like that. Good luck once again!
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa1{seriously i have to go to class now and i suggest you do the same. You know something along the lines of English reading and comprehension or something like that} if your english is not good ,u can study hard and then improve it ,, but if u've been brain washed too deep and u can't see what the truth is,now that is sad!! it doesn't matter how hard u study it won't be able to help u to see between right and wrong!! because education doesn't teach u how to see the truth!
perrypang 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa2 ,,,if one learn the truth in the morning ,one would never regret dying the same evening...I'll suggest you to be a gentleman cultivates your self virtuously and works earnestly,,,good luck once again :-)
perrypang 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa,,, hey one last thing I'm gonna mention it here though,,, please go to any book shop in uk,us or euro and buy the latest world map and see where tibet is,,,,until u've seen the new world map if u still can't accept the fact still trying to evilized china and living in yesterday then be my guest,,hope u enjoy my comment and hope u can understand my english, please forgive my poor english, if there's any spelling or sentence had mistakes,,,god bless u
perrypang 2 years ago
well i'm done ruining you for today, but seriously though all jokes aside i say this with the up most compassion for you and your future "good luck in school" BYE GOOD BYE BUDDY MY, HAVE NICELY DAY!
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa,,{well i'm done ruining you for today, but seriously though all jokes aside i say this with the up most compassion for you and your future "good luck in school } that's rite this is what u were after, say bad thing and look down on people who don't speak good english to ruin people day in order to make your self feel better!! I see ,, u know what ?your jokes is not funny but u are so funny,,to ruin people day and correct english actually make u feel good?!ha ha HAVE A NICE LIFE,,
perrypang 2 years ago
You wouldn't be surprised if the mayor of London was from York, would you?
That one single sentence had three mistakes alone, wow. I'm not even going to explain how you messed that up. Oh my god it took 7 messages to correct your stupidity, and you even erased one of them, and i had a good joke in that one. Don't be bitter and grow up (starting with your writing skills). Then you may have some right to correct BBC. No i don't human rights (no pun intended) i mean right amongst the educated.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
For like the third maybe fourth time now, and only 2 minutes into the video you happen to spell china in all caps and it's funny because even youtube's spell checker isn't telling me to capitalize the c, so i won't. But you still shouldn't spell china in all caps. Also take the s out of "part of" china or say "both parts of".
And finally yess the last sentence! I am so happy i'm almost done with this, but depressed i even began doing to this. Damn it i ran out of space to type again! I hate you
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
Why people in Tibet allowed a "foreign" leader?
?
Why are the people in Tibet allowed a "foreign" leader?
i think that's what you meant to say.... It's so painful to read this because your english actually gets worse as you continue reading. It's like your propaganda makes less sense as you keep pulling loads out your rectum that you brain becomes less and less useful resulting in you become dumber and dumber. Even i feel dumber reading this, why am i proof reading this!
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa1{if u think tibetan culture and civilisation been destroyed by chinese then u should travel to tibet and see,,,or if u think tibet should be independent and dalai lama should be the king of tibet then let me ask u shouldn't the white american all go back to europe and give the land back to native american??? shouldn't the white australians all go back to europe and give the land back to the Aborigines??shouldn't israel give it back to arabians??
perrypang 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa2,,, European were masscare95% of the Native Americans that's about 25million ,culture and civilisation were destroyed by the europeans from16th century to 17th century and took away they land ,,,and today u have 30million native american in the world,, why didn't u say anything about it?why didn't u tell the europeans go back to europe return the land back to the native americans?
perrypang 2 years ago
You cannot justify 1 wrong with another wrong. Common now man, chinese are know for their sensible philosophy, not for their idiocy. Plz dont insult chinese peoples intellegence by bringing up such dumm argument.
weRfreAkZ 1 year ago
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pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
to weRfreAkZ,,,actually long before beijing olympic I already know CNN,BBC and some other western media are not reliable and often told negative view in asia ,like malaysia,thailand,india,burma, afgan, russia and more ,, this time to china is not a new thing at all,,,,this bbc,cnn oftenly used controversy and propaganda to represent asians and asia countries as diabolical,,,
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
to weRfreAkZ,,,, PRC has done far more for the Tibetans than any other government/leader (dalai lama) in the entire Tibetan history and that is truth,,,PRC they are not prefect the Chinese know but we mustnt forget rome was not build in one day,,, china had a very sad history in the last 2century,,,right now china look forward to meet the world,,so just try to understand and accept it ,,,dont hate china or Chinese coz they are your brothers and sisters they are your future too,,
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
to Tenzidawa3,,during the european colonization in afica from 16th to 18th everyday hundred of thousand black people were killed, torture, rape,slavery and steal their good back to europe and america,,shouldn't the white people return all the treasure they steal from the black people ?during second world war japanese invaded most of the countries in asia, everyday hundred of thousand of people died, it 's caused the Humanities worst disaster of all time,but japanese are still denial the truth
perrypang 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa4,,,japanese are damn proud of them self because they Pretended to not to see the truth
and tried to hide the lies, disguise them self Through living in denial !! it's absolutely disgusting ,,, well if u think chinese or china are the most evil nation in the world,, well be my guest,,,,,
perrypang 2 years ago
That animosity chinese have against japan, is the same animosity tibetans have against PRC. China is doing excatly the same thing to Tibet . I think fate of tibetan should be solely left to tibetans, and have the tibetans living in Tibet vote on what they want, without any interference from the government or the Han Chinese.
weRfreAkZ 1 year ago
1,to weRfreAkZ ,,,First Sino-Japanese War of 18941895,ceded the islands of Taiwan (Formosa) and Penghu to Japan,,,August 14, 1900. eight nation alliance Austria-Hungary, France, Germany, Italy, Russia the United Kingdom, and the United States , 450 million taels of silver were to be paid as indemnity over a course of 39 years to the eight nations involved US$6.653 billion today ,,and forced to sign 12 unequal treaty,,,,,
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
2,to weRfreAkZ ,,,The May Fourth Movement ,in Beijing on May 4, 1919 , the return to China of the territory and rights of Shandong, which Japan had taken from Germany during World War I.,,,,The May Fourth Movement ,in Beijing on May 4, 1919 , the return to China of the territory and rights of Shandong, which Japan had taken from Germany during World War I.,,, Nanking Massacre December 13, 1937,,, 300,000 Chinese were mass murdered,,
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
3,to weRfreAkZ,, Comfort women,, the Japanese government denies legal liability for the creation and maintenance of the system of comfort stations and comfort women used during World War II., according to the Japanese government, individual comfort women dont deserve compensation,,,,
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
4,to weRfreAkZ, The conflict lasted for 8 years,1 month, and 3 days(measured from 1937 to 1945).The Chinese casualties were 3.22 million soldiers, 9.13 million civilians were collateral damage, and another 8.4 million were non-military casualties, at least 2.7 million civilians died during the "kill all, loot all, burn all" japs even deny that a widespread, systematic massacre occurred at all ! after 72 years japs government still didn't issue any offical apologize to chinese and those victims?
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
5,to weRfreAkZ,,,prior to 1959, 95% of Tibetans lived in 'feudal serfdom',[2] and cite cases of abuse and cruelty in the traditional Tibetan system,, Before the democratic reform, education was monopolized by monasteries and more than 95 percent of Tibetans were illiterate
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
6,to weRfreAkZ,,Nowadays, illiteracy among adults under the age of 50 has fallen to below 2.4 percent.,,, The economy has moved forward in leaps and bounds. From 1959 to 2008, Tibet's GDP increased from 174 million yuan to 39.591 billion yuan, an increase of 65 times when accounting for inflation, an annual growth rate of 8.9 percent.
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
7,to weRfreAkZ,,,, Tibetan population has seen a rapid growth in the past 50 years, and according to national census figures ethnic Tibetans account for more than 95 percent of the region's population. The region's birth rate has been above the national average since 1970 because of a lenient family planning policy. Eighty percent of Tibetan farmers and herdsmen are free to have as many children as they want. Only urban Tibetans have to follow a two-child family planning policy.
pangcheetat1980 1 year ago
you suck at english, spelling, and sentence structure. You should correct a 2nd grade reading comprehension book before you go correcting a BBC documentary. Where did you learn English any way? from Jacky Chan?
You know what i'm not ready to correct that last sentence yet, becuase i have to get this off of my chest. If China wants to create propaganda at least cover you tracks of BS by at least leaving it in charge with someone who has an education! ok now i'm ready YOU LUCKY SO ARE!
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa 1,,{you suck at english, spelling, and sentence structure. You should correct a 2nd grade reading comprehension book before you go correcting a BBC documentary. Where did you learn English any way? from Jacky Chan? } u seens so frustrated with his english but ironically u can understand all the things that he was trying to say !!,,,and I think his english is prefectly fine as long as people can understand ,that's about it coz we are not having english lesson here haha are we ??
perrypang 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa2 {where did you learn english anyway?from jacky chan?} jackie chan english may not be that good or have an american or british accent that's coz he's wasn't born in those countries and english is wasn't his first langguege and he's not an english teacher!! but at least he manage to make english langguege movies in hollywood and speak only english in the movie!! does any hollywood actors or actresses can come to any asia countries to make an asian movie and speak their langguege??
perrypang 2 years ago
"organizationally from" not "original from"
" in the far east" not the "in far more east"
"it must be embarrassing for BBC" not " it must be embarrassed for BBC"
(by the way it way there is irony there, just thought i'd mention that)
"where it has been a province for China"
Not "where has been a province of CHINA"
ok the last sentence is so bad i have to do it on another post...........this must be so embarrassing for Chinese people, you really shot your self in the foot with this one.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
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to Tenzidawa ,,{this must be so embarrassing for Chinese people, you really shot your self in the foot with this one.} langguege is a tools for people to communicate not to show off,,,, for those who think langguege is a tools for them to show off then you really shot your self in the foot with this one. .
perrypang 2 years ago
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And no i don't mean just loosing your job and if you have any kind of educational document saying you completed any level of school it should be burned to light a cigarette so i can smoke it to help relieve the immense amount of stress you have caused. Ok now i'm going to proof read your errors YOU ENGLISH BAD GUY SPEAKINGER!
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
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Tenzidawa 2 years ago
Ok after No. 3 i'm done with this, i don't have time to correct a child's show and tell project. You butchered the English language so bad that if you are a Chinese pencil pusher in an office of a basement payed only in the form of crackers and a water fountain, you still deserve to be fired.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa ,,{Ok after No. 3 i'm done with this, i don't have time to correct a child's show and tell project.} perhaps no one ever expect u to do that ??! {You butchered the English language so bad that if you are a Chinese pencil pusher in an office of a basement payed only in the form of crackers and a water fountain, you still deserve to be fired.} what is it got to do to u what people does and if he deserve to be fired?? don't u think u're a bit overreacting?and bossy??
perrypang 2 years ago
No. Nooooooo it clearly said in English, which you don't seem too fluent in, that 20% of the male population of Tibet were monks, first off.
I also want to ask are you sure those images of Tibetans tortures were not by Chinese? I mean it's not the much of a stretch of the imagination that they could be, i'm just asking.
Once again NO a majority of Tibetans were not slaves (pay attention) they were nomads and farmers.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
Plus why do you call them miserable slaves? your bad English made it seem as if you were being disrespectful to them rather then in respects to them.
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
You already have three fails with the little message alone and this video is 8 minutes long. I'm sorry but your attempt fails miserably and you should be ashamed for misrepresenting China's image in such a comedic and back firing way. Do your self a favor and finish school before you go off running your mouth amongst adults. Good luck in school
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
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to Tenzidaw{ Do your self a favor n finish school before u go off running your mouth amongst adults.Good luck in school }no offend so do u mean if people who's not good in english or not as good as u are not allowed to share their comments here or not allowed to speak??english to many out there it's their first language,second,third or even none at least they've tried, in fact many english speaker can only speak english,,yes your english may be good but definitely not your point of view
perrypang 2 years ago
I'm only 45 seconds into this video i'm already offended by the butchering of the english language and lack of education trying to provide intelligence.
No. 1 it's not "broadcast a "documentary"" for two reasons.... Broadcasted because it is past tense and you don't have to quote "documentary" why did you do that?
No. 2 it's not "one side story" it's "one sided story"
No. 3 it's not "As it always do to china" it's "As it has always done to china" and yes i know I didn't capitalize china
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
to Tenzidawa,, {I'm only 45 seconds into this video i'm already offended by the butchering of the english language and lack of education trying to provide intelligence} only 45 second u're already offended by the english?!it seens like u're more interested to prove that your english is better then others but not tibet.I
think voiletli
is trying to share his point of view and tell people what he think and feel about the BBC documentary ,,, but it's not having english lesson here thanks mate,,
perrypang 2 years ago
this is really what the chinese are taught in schools. they really believe this. they dont even know the cultural genocide and the mass extermination of people in china during the cultural revolution. its like if polpot of cambodia except 100 times greater. this is our number 1 trading partner and holder of our debt china owns us as well. what is a poor serf to do. might makes right and writes the history.
maxdonte1 2 years ago
3{from the destruction of chinas rich culture 2 the destruction of another. worse then hitler at
least the germans have shame of what there people did. chinese today no shame. did the? same to its
own people killed millions. mao's little demon see genoside as virtue.I have been there}
hitler wanted to conquer the world same as the japs many civilian were used experimentation
to vivisection and that was racist and evil,japs are still denial the history! it's different can't compare to mao
perrypang 2 years ago
4{this's really what the chinese r taught in school. they really believe? this. they dont even know the cultural genocide
and the mass extermination of people in china during the cultural revolution.}firstly I'm not from china and yes I do believe this
the bbc,cnn are support by the government used as a tools to brainwash people and evilized others countries in order to maintain
they influences to others,chinese do know the cultural genocide and the mass extermination of people in china-
perrypang 2 years ago
5]during the cultural revolution was unpleaseant but
that's happened to everywhere even in europe,america,asia,,china because of it history and huge population that's why during
the cultural evolution what mao did even it was unpleasant but sometime it was necessary but only if u try to understand
why mao and his team were done and in fact to many he's a hero!
I aint telling u what's right or wrong but I'm hoping u can try to understand a bit more and accept a bit more,,coz we are family
perrypang 2 years ago
we need more video like this to tell the world what we are actually thinking ,, I am not even expecting the world to believe this or not but at least letting people out there to know that it is not only the british and american are living in this world and many of us are also living in the same world too, the asians,aficans,russians,australian,, and more,god bless you
perrypang 2 years ago
lies, half truths, mis information sounds like what they teach in china comi schools. why dont u fucken interview the poor who escaped who were part of the serf class. some may say life was hard. but it is much worse. from the destruction of chinas rich culture 2 the destruction of another. worse then hitler at least the germans have shame of what there people did. chinese today no shame. did the same to its own people killed millions. mao's little demons see genoside as virtue.I have been there
maxdonte1 2 years ago
1{lies, half truths, mis information sounds like what they teach in china comi schools.
why dont u fucken interview the poor who escaped who were part of the serf class.
some may say life was hard. but it is much worse}history is no lies,or half truths but medie does
that's why we have try to understand and accept it becauce each countries taught
history differently but some how we still taught to know what was happening in the past,,,,
perrypang 2 years ago
just to add to what Perrypang had to say 83 commissioners no matter how big is not enough to contradict BBC's opinion on how untouched Tibet's population of over 6 million was at the time. In fact it proves that to have a post in Tibet for over 200 years and to only have 83 people working there it proves there was not much happening to begin with. I'm sorry violetli but your attempt to prove BBC wrong failed and now you look stupid for every person that reads this. Good luck in school
Tenzidawa 2 years ago
2}my grand are those who were escaped from china during that period as well as many other people
and they do know what was happening in china in the past it was hard but it was
same as everywhere else, the chinese know the communism party is not perfect but
perhaps is the only party can lead to country for the moment,,my grand they went back to china and they said to me
china it's changing and getting better,,,........
perrypang 2 years ago
Fake story CCP Version :))
HumanRightsVideosTib 2 years ago
Right out of the gate this video starts off with lies.
iamlumin 2 years ago 3
1. Lord Curzon, the
Viceroy of India: Chinese suzerainty over Tibet is a constitutional fiction...a political affectation which has only been maintained because of its convenience to both parties. ... As a matter of fact, the two Chinese (ie, Manchu) Ambans at Lhasa are there not as Viceroys, but as Ambassadors.
[Papers CD 1920, No.66, GoI to IO, 8 Jan. 1903. India Office Library]
in fact, this had been the case since the end of the 18th century.
mispistoleros 2 years ago 2
2. Ms Dhondup Chodon, "Life in the Red Flag People's Commune" I belong to what the Chinese now term as serfs of Tibet. ... There were 6 of us in the family. ... My home was a double-storeyed building with a walled compound. On the
ground floor we used to keep our animals. We had 4 yaks, 27 sheep and goats, 2 donkeys and a land-holding of 4.5 khel (0.37 hectares). ... We never had any difficulty earning our livelihood. There was not a single beggar in our area.
mispistoleros 2 years ago 3
3. will it suprise you to know the mayor of london must be a citizen of london while there are no restrictions on the birthplace of the DL.
kham and amdo are undeniably parts fo tibet, not china.
4. the 5th DL and Manchu Emperor
bestowed unprecedented high complimentary titles upon each other
and the ch-yn relationship was reaffirmed. The Chinese Govt refers only to the honorific title given by Shunzi to DL, but leaves out any mention of the similar honorific title granted by DL to Shunzi.
mispistoleros 2 years ago
4. Chinese propaganda infers that it was this deed by the Manchu Emperor Shunzi which conferred the legal right to the Dalai Lama to rule Tibet. This interpretation intentionally misses the point of the event, namely that titles were exchanged by two sovereign leaders. If the Dalai Lama was dependent on his imperial title for the exercise of his authority, then so was the Manchu Emperor dependent on the title granted by the Dalai Lama for the exercise of his authority.
mispistoleros 2 years ago
typo, that last '4' should have been 4-5 together
6. these rights were no longer practiced tho the chinese penchant for 'death by a 1,000 cuts' continued to flourish up into the cultural revolution.
7. were those photos taken in modern serflord state cpc china, inc.? who cares about the peasants? certainly not cpc party officials. CASS, Chinese Academy of the CPC and RCSC: 90% of china's wealthiest, 2,932 out of 3,220 yuan billionaires, are children of senior party officials.
mispistoleros 2 years ago
As the Canadian Legation, Chungking, China advised Ottawa in 1944: there is no doubt that official China is determined to swallow Sinkiang, Tibet, Outer Mongolia, Kansu and Sikang, no matter what the people living in those regions may feel about the matter. The Legation added: The Chinese do not see that the attempt to compel the Tibetans to allow themselves and their country to be incorporated as an integral part of China is most definitely an act of aggression.
mispistoleros 2 years ago
fake story...........!this video
TheTimure 2 years ago 2
this is a joke...
Unorthodox101 2 years ago
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Unorthodox101 2 years ago
make some videos about Xinjiang/east turkestan!
Mongolia and Tibet were originally not part of China if you go back enough it was later on in history they got absorbed into the Ching/manchu dynasty.
Fuck England
Uberaoshi 2 years ago
ACYF-propaganda, sad the internet there is censored so they cant see other information.
By the way how many millions of poor people starved to death in Maos "great step forward"
danishjimbo2000 3 years ago
Chinese shit !
linuxva 3 years ago
don't be ignorant
Uberaoshi 2 years ago
You bend the truth to fit the facts. The number of Tibetans killed by the Han Chinese is over a million. Oh yes! The Tibetans have such a great live under Communist rule! Their religion taken away, 6000 of their temples blown up, their land stolen, their natural recources stolen to boost Chinese economy (just like Mao planned it), nature destroyed, Han Chinese imported by tens of thousands. Oh what joy!! The Tibetans must be so happy!!
IFTPOT 3 years ago
voiletli. u get my support. hang on mate. not everyone is the west is as brainwashed. some of us can still make up fair evaluations. i love China. and am a big Tibet fan. and the only problem is the coverage this area gets. Unfair, Unjust and Untrue to a population of more than 1.5 billion. A modern-era-of-Hollywood-polished-hypocrite-spirituality in the sad sad west (to those reading, what u doing here anyway? haven't u got something u wanna shop for? go and spend)
RocketZZZ 3 years ago
This is video is a load of shit, these chinese are destroing one of the worlds heritage and future. If any of you have a little idea what is in Tibet and the values of these people that would be GREAT. The holy mount Kailash is there and this is where is the answer of our exitence and future. Yes It is a piramid just like the ones in th Americas and Egypt and and the largest on found in Bosna and may are yet to be found. We are just getting the answers people open your eyes
hristostoev 3 years ago
Same old shit. Chinese trying to relieve their inner sense of guilt and shame by pointing to the old system in Tibet. All this in an effort to rationalize and justify invasion, occupation, murder, torture, looting, outright stealing, intentional movement of Han-Chinese into Tibetan territories, renaming of streets, erecting Chinese monument to lie about Tibet's history, destruction of thousands of monasteries, limits on monks and nuns, etc. The list goes on and on. Tibetans are not Chinese!
iamlumin 3 years ago 2
To pedromendezo:
Some stupid westerners like you have no brain to understand that china contains 56 ethnics. Han chinese is not the only ethnic. There are 55 others, including zang(Tibetan, live in Xizang,Qinghai and Sichuan), Mongolian who live mainly in Inter Mogolia, Hui who are mainly Islamic and live in Xinjiang and also the one you mentioned Manchu who ruled china when your drug dealer ancestors first met Chinese. Check with your great great great father if Manchu are chinese,U pathetic.
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago
you pathetic chinese.. who were brain washed by their own govt with fake history. Use your common sense the whole world agrees on one pt and your govt is persistant on thier views. One of truth that you mentioned that dalai lama was born in quinghai which is called amdo but dalai lama doesnt speak chinese.. the china is also ruled by non chinese which is manchu, which is actually part of mongolian tribes. What if mongol comes and says historically china is part of mongol.. would you agree that??
pedromendezo 3 years ago
WOW...your general ignorance is astonishing. Please try to learn something about the history of China and the cultural and ethnic composition of the Chinese population before making a fool of yourself in public.
Also, just out of curiosity, how do you define "the whole world?" Does it include Alaska and Hawaii, or just the lower 48?
joe23521 3 years ago
Well done! BBC is appearing its character of hypocrite to make up a touchingful but fictitious story in order to earn its own dirty interest.
liqiang3031 3 years ago
There is no policy that force Han migrate to there. and there is no killing of Tibetan people happening now. I have been there for a month in 2004, all i have seen were friendly and wonderful people who considered them as Chinese Tibetan. Why ruin 7 million Tibetan people's life in China because of the 0.05 million Tibetan refugees who are manipulated by politicians? If everyone in Tibet hates Hans, those 5% hans in Tibet region will never survive.
ijustknow99 3 years ago
The Tibetan population is around 92% in Tibet now, and the figure has been all above 90% after 1950'. If you dont belive that, go there and account yourself. Tibetan people receive free 9 year education, 80% free medical service and can have more than one kids, all of which are better than Han chinese people in the rest of China (from a documentary called 'a year in Tibet' made by BBC).
ijustknow99 3 years ago
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Yeah..thanks man. Now I feel totally at peace with China human rights record. I mean, Tibet has long been a place for suffering, so what are we to do. Good Job!!
Oh, by the way, what do you think China is going to do with the 30,000 Tibetans it has arrested and which are rotting away in some Chinese prison right now?? I dunno..maybe they'll given them the death penalty along with the other 10,000 people they have put to death since 2000. More than the rest of the world combined, 7 times over.
rainmaker102 3 years ago
I do suggest you to go to see a psyco docotr.
Are you dreaming these numbers?
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago 5
Chinese should send 30.000 Tibetans to the US. people will love them, give them human rights and if they still not happy, dont want to work, just kill a few americans (easy job for them) then they get a single room in the jail and the rest US tax payers will give them a nice rest of their lives. Be careful with which state they choose though, some of the states in the US do have death penalty...
ijustknow99 3 years ago
That is one idea...but I have another. How about China stops killing the Tibetans. Stops its policy of forced migration of Han Chinese into Tibet (now Tibetans are a minority in their own homeland). If you really think Tibet belongs to China, then give them the human rights that all Chinese ppl deserve.
rainmaker102 3 years ago
Obviously you now nothing about Xizang(tibet), which,I understand, is not your fault. However it is really a shame that you keep showing off your ignorance and brain-less. Shut up or go back to do some real homework!
Seriously!
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago
For rainmaker102
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago
rainmaker102, please do some research on Ethnic Chinese's rights in China. I think you'll be surprised to learn that contrary to popular Western belief, ethnic minorities in China, of which Tibetans are one of 55, enjoy MORE rights and privileges than the Han Chinese.
joe23521 3 years ago
no matter Chinese media or westen media, at list they have one thing in common..They only report what they intend to report,tell ppl what goverment want ppl to konw.
coolbaby008 3 years ago 2
That '17 point agreement' kindly offered Dalai Lama and other monks, nobles a life long guaranteed pension scheme paid by Chinese government for the exchage of them giving their land to all the slaves, who are 95% of Tibet population and all illiterate. By the mean time, tibet receives a high autonomous right still by Dalai Lama. So that you know, the majority of Tibetan were happy, even Dalai Lama joyfully accept the new position as the vice president of National People's Congress there after.
ijustknow99 3 years ago
Tibet was liberated from a theocratic regime led by you beloved Dalai Lama. It gets the chance to claimed its 'independent'(to whoever) only because the World War and its civil war. But because of the fact that it was a inhuman theocratic regime, not a single country in the world acknowledge 'Tibet' as a country. And one will be very suprised if it can be listed in the United Nations for the sake of the 'human rights'.
ijustknow99 3 years ago
Its the ugly British who stage the "Tibet Independence" in 1912 and then colonised her later, but nobody recognised it. See how Tibetans they killed in 1903/04.
paulpkho 3 years ago
IF Tibet was part of China there was no need for the 17 point agreement which was forced upon the Tibetan deligation to sign in China in 1951 - then China announced to the world that 'Tibet was liberated' (from who!!!)?
mindness08 3 years ago
It is only after the Japanese invasion in World War Two and civil war between Kuomintang and Communist Party, did the new Chinese government have the power and time to fight with Tibet which declared independence one-sidedly with the support of British India. However, neither Republic of China (1912-1949) nor People's Republic of China (1949-present) renounced its claim to the sovereignty of Tibet.
wenf200 3 years ago
Repulic of China has never renounced sovereignty to Mongolia and Russian Republic of Tuva either. I don't think China want those lands back
Maaguaa 3 years ago
Indepentent Media?
Don't be too Naive.
Honestly at the begining, I think it's stupid to forbide western jounalist during the riots.
After seeing all those "indepent, free, fair" media "shows", I turned out to support the Chinese goverment.They don't deserve there! They only report what they intend to report.
By the way, be careful to use "all over the world". On the other hand,It does tell how your "independent" medias manipulate the news. Study History, Not Media!
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago
Tibet, I hate this english name. I now will call its chinse name xizang.
Xizang has been part of china undoubtly since the Qing Dynasty for over 200 years. Isn't that long enough ? How long is USA's history? According to the Legislation Law, Tibet is a part of China.
Rich Cluture? Do you mean feudalism? theocracy ?90% illiterate? If you call removal those "destroy", I approve this kind of "Distory". Don't you ever learn the dark age in European?
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago
point taken, thankyou - yongxuanxuan
mindness08 3 years ago
why is independant media not allowed inside Tibet?
Why is the Independance of Tibet and surrounding CONVERSATION imprisonable in Tibet?
Its not just the BBC or England its a world-wide feeling - look at protests all over the world!
If you want the truth to be told, and have nothing to be ashamed of - let independant media into the country to tell the real story.
mindness08 3 years ago
Hi, Bran-washed guy, Have you ever been to Tibet?? Have you seen people's life in Tibet? how do you define 'Independent media'?? How do you know they are 'Independent'?? Because they call themselves? or because you have been taught in School??
sqianglan 3 years ago
Tibet has atleast 1300 years of independance.China & Tibet ended almost 200 years of fighting with a treaty engraved on 3 stone pillars.The treaty reads in part:Tibet & China shall keep the country and fronters of which they now possess. CHINA DOES NOT OWN TIBET. THEY BRUTALY DESTROYED A RICH CULTURE - FOR WHAT?
mindness08 3 years ago
Thanks to the author for telling the truth of history.
BBC is already a JOKE for the Chinese people. The more they lie, the more jokes we can laugh at.
speakercn 3 years ago
brainwashed chinese - dont believe everything you were tought at school - do some real research and get real!
mindness08 3 years ago
biased BBC
h2so463 3 years ago
brain-washed chinese! dont believe just what your comunist government teach you at school..
WAKE UP!
mindness08 3 years ago
Be constructive, show evidence instead. Don't just accuse others "brainwashed" while yourself acts like brainwashed somehow.
yongxuanxuan 3 years ago
point taken, thankyou
mindness08 3 years ago
who are you to judge us?
gdkid2004 3 years ago
Good job! Welcome to see this video!
cooler126126 3 years ago
This is true story about Xi Zang
powerliu 3 years ago
nice vidoe
atomo84 3 years ago
hope put on bbc and correct their audiences!!!!!
baigui2008 3 years ago
Bravo! a Master piece!
yakumi85 3 years ago
Well done, BBC lately has prooved itself completely lost their objectivity whenever it comes to issues concerning China. From just showing negative sides of China to use unconfirmed source of information on purpose just so they can manipulate the public voice.
ijustknow99 3 years ago 4
某些西方人和媒体患有严重的选择性失明。。。。
对此我深表同情
xxnn007 3 years ago 5
BBC and their audience are idiots, go watch "the biggest loser", you fuckin bloodly brainless moron
hatamanabu 3 years ago 3
nice job
hatamanabu 3 years ago 2
BBC supporter, can't you just try to hear some other voices? Its time to start trying some things instead of just throwing your hands in the air and dismissing the other side as brainwashed, indoctrinated or oppressed. There's life out there folks, try making contact
awmbf 3 years ago 3