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[islamfalse]

Muhammed had so many women in his bed and yet muslims consider him to be a true prophet of God.Jesus was the only one who was sinless he is the one we ought to follow.

[naliakbar]

@islamfalse Why dont you follow Jesus then? Are you making a concious effort to NEVER have any woman in your bed (if you are a woman then to not have any man in your bed)?

[dwarriorwithin]

@islamfalse Solomon was a prophet according to your bible. How many wives and concubines did he have in 1 Kings 11:1-3?? So you don't believe him to be a prophet because of your theory??

[Dhalsim06]

Thanks for posting this. I look forward to watching him debate William Lane Craig this weekend

[jefeisdguard]

This video is funny!

Sorry, didnt bother to go into it entirely.

This video begins by stating: Is "Jesus a Man, Myth or God" is interesting!

There is archaeological proof the BIBLE Jesus exists.

But NOT so for the quran Jesus!

Islam & quran have taken it upon themselves to "reinvent" Jesus.

They doNOT like what the bible declares & even calls it corrupt & created a religion to try & validate Islam through mendacious & uncorroborated evidence.

Jesus spoke as a baby, in the quran? Yeah?

Prove it.

[naliakbar]

moses split the sea Jesus died and lived again according to the bible proove it., it is so redicilious when i get questions like this, because it shows the hypocracy of individuals like yourself.

you know full well you cannot proove a miracle happened in the past yet you ask that it is prooven.

that is why Allah sent the Quran as the miracle of Muhamamad(saw) because it can be prooven to the end of time ALLAHU AKBAR (God is great)

You proove one of the 2 miracles then we will proove

[jefeisdguard]

@naliakbar

There is archaeological evidence that chariots remains have been found in the sea bed. To this day more evidence is being collected. Jesus had hundreds of witnesses but ADD to the fact that there is historical evidence including but NOT only the Dead Sea Scrolls but by secular historians Jesus did in fact die by crucifixion.

Unfortunately YOU believe a lie from a liar, Muhammad. He had NO witnesses he talked with an angel. Biblically, YOU have been warned about Gabriel

Gal 1:8

[naliakbar]

Sir, just as we drive cars into rivers today so to people drove chariots into rivers and seas, as for your hundred of withnesses, can you please provide one of them that saw jesus raised from the dead, because i am certain you are not going to tell me it is in the bible or some christian writing because that is what you are against as islamic proofs.

I dont believe in a lie, i believe as moses, jesus and all prophets believe "THERE IS ONE GOD NO PARTNERS"

[jefeisdguard]

@naliakbar No, thats the stringent beliefs of Islam What? "THERE IS ONE GOD NO PARTNERS" There is much OT/NT evidence pointing to the plurality of God. Which of the 3s can we NOT see in Exodus 33:20? Which of the 3 can we see & Abraham too? Which of the 3 is an unforgivable sin if blasphemed? You know the answers & there4 know the Trinity is real. Jesus referred to both often in the NT Genesis even calls out to the plurality by saying "US" not "I". ElohIM is plural NOT singular

[naliakbar]

Nice Attempt to deviate the topic, why is this the common christian tactic?

You claimed that muslims cant proove the miracle of jesus speaking as a baby, to which i said you CANNOT proove that moses split the sea or Jesus died and was raised again using your corrupt concept of prooving God's truth, now you are talking about trinity, when did we bring this up? proove based on your standard what you want me to proove that is all i am asking obviously you cant do it.

[jefeisdguard]

@naliakbar

Sorry, naliakbar, it doesnt work again & again & again.

You repeat " You claimed that muslims cant proove the miracle of jesus speaking as a baby, to which i said you CANNOT proove that moses split the sea or Jesus died and was raised again"

For all that you have NOTHING!

When I can easily go to other topics YOU STILL HAVE NOTHING!

In denial, are we?

My freind, again, Islam has ZERO ZIP NADA NOTHING inasfar as evidence OF ANY KIND(!) it existed beyond 1,400 yrs ago! Nothing.

[naliakbar]

The point is you bring up an arguement and when it is disected you run to another topic, typical christian methodolgy, im asking you to provide evidence based on what you said on miracles i accept happen but cannot be prooven, instead of admitting that the proof cannot be provided except the scripture you change the topic, and then attempt to redicule me for pointing out this fact, nice try but it wont work. admit you cant provide evidence because it is a miracle of the past then we move on.

[jefeisdguard]

@naliakbar

Miracles?

Can you even prove 'allah' is a god? Is good? Has any power? Has enough oomph, to make things happen?

Forget about your make believe quran, it is a moot subject here.

Prove allah or your god, Muhammad make miracles NOW(!), in their name alone!

Jesus, on the other hand, STILL TO THIS DAY MAKES MIRACLES HAPPEN THRU-OUT THE WORLD!

Islam offers endless ENDLESS VIOLENCE of such dehumanizing nature one cant help but call it Satanic & evil in nature. There is ur proof.

[naliakbar]

again you blind christian, please open your eyes.

i am not going to sit here and change the topic until you ADMIT you cannot produce the proof you require of muslims for miracles.

You want proof that Jesus spoke from the cradle as the quran said, that is what you started off saying, i say i cant produce it just as you cant produce any proof of any of the miracles of jesus and moses, admit you ask for something you yourself cannot do then we look at the other subjects ONE AT A TIME

[jefeisdguard]

@naliakbar

Now as for the witnesses, which of the apostles would you like?

Take your pick.

Btw, it doesnt surprise me that YOU doNOT believe in Galatians 1:8

Too bad.

B/c we will be judging all angels in heaven too!

1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?

[naliakbar]

i dont believe Paul to be a messenger of god, so obviously anything that comes from him is rubbish as far as i am concerned. so why would i waste my time on it?

[jefeisdguard]

@naliakbar

Why should anyone believe Islam when you dont believe in Paul?

That is a stalemate!

But guess what?

You have NOTHING, again!

[naliakbar]

because PAUL was not a prophet of god

also why would i believe a man that states:

"But be it so, I did not burden you nevertheless, being crafty, I CAUGHT YOU WITH GUILE." 2 CORINTHIANS 12:16

which in other words means, so what if i lied to you the end justifies the means, how can i possibly trust such a person?

but again one topic at a time, because i see you running to something else already before this topic is discussed, so back to miracles proove it or admit it!

[jefeisdguard]

Re: 2Cor12:16

Ever hear of the expression: takes a thief to know & catch a thrief!?

Paul, when he was named Saul, was a crafty fellow. Paul was NOT taken in by their guile & trickery b/c he himself KNEW did this, once!. Simply, we call it experience. Islam calls it selective verse searching & incorrect interpretation. NO thought or brainwork whatsoever USED in their attempts & endeavors to besmirch Paul & Jesus. Just more Islamic propaganda & disinformation making ALL muslims look, silly.

[naliakbar]

14Now I am ready to visit you for the third time, and I will not be a burden to you, because what I want is not your possessions but you. After all, children should not have to save up for their parents, but parents for their children. 15So I will very gladly spend for you everything I have and expend myself as well. If I love you more, will you love me less?

[naliakbar]

16Be that as it may, I have not been a burden to you. Yet, crafty fellow that I am, I caught you by trickery! 17Did I exploit you through any of the men I sent you? 18I urged Titus to go to you and I sent our brother with him. Titus did not exploit you, did he? Did we not act in the same spirit and follow the same course?

[naliakbar]

What verse am i taking out of context? the entire passage is hims saying that he caught this person Titus by trickery and then asking if Titus was exploited by those that was sent to him, but does not deny that he TRICKED Titus into belief

[sheptropremix]

didn't i hear paul say he used to rob from a church from the bible or am I speaking BS

[naliakbar]

I dont know of the reference if you can get it to me that would be great.

[sheptropremix]

Corinthians 2 11:8 I robbed other churches by receiving support from them so as to serve you.

[naliakbar]

Thank you soo much for the information i will add it battle chest.

[NoShadowOfDoubt]

"Paul" Saul was a bounty hunter, hunted Christians and sent them to Rome to be executed. A modern Jew who didn't commit to Jewish laws he consumed wine and ate swine, Paul's writings add up to 7/8 or 3/4 of the N.T. What he has wrote contradicts with Jesus. In today's standards, his vision of Jesus that he only saw can only be described as hallucinations.

[msiddiqui135]

That is the reason many christian intellectuals say that the real founder of christian religion is actually Paul. The best example given is by Micheal hart in worlds most influential list. which states Prophet Muhammed (PBUH) as no1 and Jesus (PBUH) as no3. The reason for Jesus to be no 3 is mainly because the credit for christianity is given equally to jesus and Paul.

[architectdawood]

I agree, Its hard to have another Deedat, No one can match him in his approach and wisdom and grasp of the whole inter faith dialogue. We all bear witness that he did his job with upmost honesty and strenght, and now would be in heavenly delight with his lord, Aameen.

[onemuslimvoice]

I miss sheik deedat :( May Allah grant him paradise inshallah we learned a lot from him!

[hawk08ht]

so true brother, he really was a great man.

ameen, (for ur duaa)