Beethoven Sym. 3 "Eroica" II. Marcia funebre part 1 Wiener KammerOrchester

[AZoje]

i dont know anything about classical music,

can anyone recommend me about similar music to this one ?

thanks!

[SyntheticParanoia]

EXIT. I know where it is

[carlosdiaz50]

toda la obra de este genio es enorme y magistral, pero este movimiento conmueve el alma y el corazon de todo el genero humano

[MrPainfulTruth]

A very interesting and genuine approach to this overly used and trivialised masterpiece. Thank you for the beautiful moment. I am glad you didnt perform it the same way we already heard a houndred times. After all the instruments are not "original" either, its called evolution and L.v.B. would have liked it.

[jearaernesto]

Uma beleza de paixão e eloquência de um momento único funebre que se tem de adorar e sentir com toda a emoção até as lagrimas .

Uma interpretação sublime e apaixonantemente bela

[toogoodbw]

@michaelchewitt without critics professional musicians would sound like crap. So let people tell musicians they sound like crap so that way they'll stay sharp and sound good.

[violinista53]

@toogoodbw You fancy yourself a music critic? You're quite full of yourself. After 17 years I think I might have an idea what sounds good and what doesn't. If I feel the need I can record myself (the only objective "critic"). But that's not always necessary, because we are harsher on ourselves than you frankly could ever be. Anyone can say "You sound like crap"; it requires no actual thinking.

Sorry to everyone else for having to get my hands dirty there. This is a lovely video.

[toogoodbw]

@violinista53 I'll take it you are a professional violinist? I agree that after you have been playing for 17 years you are qualified to critique yourself. Can a first year student objectively evaluate themselves? I think that sometimes outside perspective is important. Perhaps Beethoven would not have progressed through the "simple is beautiful" stage of his composition if it were not for critics. I have been playing for 17 years as well and "you sound like crap" was an affectation.

[toogoodbw]

lolz. obo getting into it.

[geberotisabi]

unsycronized...

[musicalcoffeedreams]

I'm not entering into the tempo debate (I really just enjoyed this performance)

What I will say is, why can't more places have exit signs written in cursive fonts? :)

[bazingaShelly]

I've heard thousands of interpretations of the 3rd Symphony and other works by Beethoven, and this interpretation of Marcia funebre is now number ONE on my list! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

Although others have complained it's too slow, I agree with one person who says it's better too slow than fast. It's a funeral march, not a polka, for goodness' sake! And thanks to this tempo all the beauty, sublimity and solemnity of this piece are revealed in full! Thank you, Mr Laycock! I truly enjoy it!!!

[amber69babe]

Dear M. Laycock,

If it wasn't for your symphony i would never have enjoyed this musical Piece this much!

Thank you sooooo much!

Sincerely, Amber =)

[plyboard9]

Dear Mr. Laycock,

I love your interpretation of the Funeral March. I've been listening along with a score and I just weep inside over it. I did not notice the intended tempo marking, but I love your attention to every single musical moment. Each gesture is filled with honour.  When the cellos have the "esspressivo decres." (2:17) and then sustains into the chord on "sf" in the upper strings it is complete sorrow.

thinking to myself: who can't hear the line (at 7:03 on)

Thank you!

[marlamuse]

@plyboard9 Thank you for your heartfelt comments, I am very touched to know this music has reached you so deeply. Sincerely, Mark Laycock

[epsylonfilms]

Ich liebe es einfach nur.

[oboistru]

So slow :-((

[nicolasnebout1]

Dear Mr. Laycock,

I must say I totally agree with "puestony" about the tempo of the march. We can't feel the ligne, the phrase, if it's too slow. And it would feel much more natural at 80, or should I say 40, as it's written 2/4 (or even 20, one bit far a bar !). That makes complete sense when you come to the fugue, where you are actually quite at 80 for the eight note ! And that's very nice, it hold the tension so much. But why not doing this tempo from the beginning ?

Warmest wishes,

NN

[McQuackor]

"So he is no more than a common mortal! Now, too, he will tread under foot all the rights of man, indulge only his ambition; now he will think himself superior to all men, become a tyrant!"

It's sad to see that a brilliant masterpiece of this magnitude was dedicated to one of history's biggest hypocrites, under the delusion of one of history's greatest heroes.

I think this symphony is the only good thing that came out of Napoleon's political existence.

[MrLewek]

do you remember "Eroica" of Andrzej Munk ? I know, its the movie (,,,)

[KliProductions]

I like it so much! BRAVO and Bravissimo!

Bracha Waldman.

[puestony]

Does that sound like a funeral march to you Mr. Laycock? I doesn't to me... If Beethoven's metronome marking was respected it would make more sense. Eight note=80 not 50. That way the string triplets would actually sound like the drums do in a funeral march.

[marlamuse]

It's a fair question, and in order to respond I must do so in 9 different postings that follow because of the number of words allowed.

[marlamuse]

1) All music is subject to interpretation, and any performer's interpretation is based on all they have learned about a composer's life, works, what the world was like when they wrote, and what the world - and music - was like before and after they lived; filtered through the performer's specific set of intelligences and sensitivities, all shaped by the profundity of the interpreter's own life experiences and wisdom garnered in the number of years they have lived.

[marlamuse]

2) A conductor's role, in my opinion, is to render to the listener the depth, breadth, and spirit of the music while remaining true to the composer's intent. The composer of course gives guidelines with use of words and metronome markings for tempi that come the closest to describing how the music sounds within the composer's soul, as well as dynamic markings, etc.

[marlamuse]

2a) There are some conductors who feel that the music is not served unless every detail is attended to exactly and without any derivation whatsoever from what the composer wrote as we know it

[marlamuse]

2b) (in that case, we would never hear a high Bb on the flute in the "Eroica", as that note was note available on that instrument in Beethoven's time, therefore the flute would never be able to play completely the main melody of the first movement; nor any other high Bb, i.e. in the Scherzo of the Ninth Symphony). In my experience, those interpretations often put the music underlying the notes second place to the notes themselves, and the forest is lost for the trees.

[marlamuse]

2c) With regard to strict adherence to a metronome marking, I would prefer to err in the eyes of some in order to bring forth to the best of my ability the music that I sense lies beneath.

[marlamuse]

3) I have only witnessed first-hand one funeral cortege replete with muffled drum of a great statesman, that of John F. Kennedy (I mention this because of the Eroica's original dedication to Napoleon). As a young boy, that spectacle made an indelible impression no doubt.

[marlamuse]

3a) My recollection is that the tempo of that cortege, like the tempo to the funeral march of the Mahler Fifth Symphony (which we would not have without the March Funebre of the "Eroica" Symphony), and the emotion that accompanied that tempo was more appropriate to a marking of 50 rather than 80.

[marlamuse]

4) Imagine for a moment Gounod's Funeral March for a Marionette: at 50 it becomes absurd as the depth of the music does not permit such a slow tempo; however, the greatness of Beethoven's March Funebre allows it to be examined from many different angles and viewpoints.

[marlamuse]

5) So to answer your question: yes it does. However, if my interpretation does not sit right with you, I respect that and I know that there are many other interpretations of the work that you will find to be more satisfying. That's one of the many beautiful and glorious aspects of the great art we have to treasure, and through which we have the opportunity to be moved, enlightened, edified and confirmed. With all best wishes, Mark Laycock

[JangoDepp]

molto bello questo brano