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  • Apparently Ali G is upset about the comic-to-film adaption.

    If you're going to criticise the film for not being true to the comic, don't bother with the visuals. The film adaption heartlessly condensed the storyline and either diluted or changed Moore's underlying message. Now if you think Moore's anti-US, anti-Christian, anti-capitalist, neo-anarchist message was unfair and stupid (as I do), then that isn't a problem, but many of Moore's worshippers are naturally going to be upset.

  • I love how these guys completely misunderstood the comic book film dissection take on the story from day 1.

  • They are masked vigilantes dumbasses.

  • Are these guys mental or just tardish?

  • No offense but that first guy seems pretty mean, and i am almost sure that you guys never seen the watchmen comic book.

  • aY ROSTA! SMOKE SUM A DAT WEED AH! BOMBLA CLOT ROSTA!

    seriously though I think you guys are smoking weed with your analysis

  • llmao

  • i know what your saying about the costumes and i agree, however despite the fact that Night-owls costume is really super flashy, it doesn't take away from what watchmen is as a comic, and watchmen as a movie is a different thing entirely. when watchmen was released in the 80s it was a critique of the superhero genre AT THAT TIME. so take watchmen as a film NOW, and look at the costumes and every one is riled up because they look like todays superheroes. think!!!! that is the point!

  • Did you not read the comic? Comedian looks exactly the same in the comic as he does in the trailers that I have seen. So that means that you are questions the original drawings of the the watchmen? If I am correct, you took no part in the creation of the Watchmen so why are you trying to 'dis' the its characters? Plus, is there really nothing else that you could be doing instead of sitting on your ass, bitching about a movie/book?

  • also it makes perfect sense for nite owl to have a good looking suit. He has a fukn Owlship and hoverboards for christ sakes. Thats the whole point about DAN YOU DOUCHEBAGS! Hollis was a regular dude, but Dan is meant to be this and thats why he is so afraid of it yet loves its so much. Stop bashing Snyder because he obviously "gets" watchmen more than you two do.

  • these guys don't do research anything well. I stopped watching at the Comedian comments. They obviously didn't read the novel, because they say "Comedian looks like a vigilante..." ummm yeah. and then they say "look at his uniform it should be all mashed together" LOOK BACK AT THE NOVEL ASSHOLES! his uniform in the movie is exactly the same as the novel.

  • Film and books, Comics & Graphic novels, are too different mediums.

    And can't be done on the same level.

    Just give the film it's chance when it comes out.

    Then everyone can start their rant.

  • my opinion about you guys at talkbackworld is that you dont know how to do anything else besides bicker and complain about upcoming movies. By making highly anticipated movies look like crap, you will attract alot of viewers. It doesnt matter what the movie is, you guys just want to find a way to make it look horrible. Kind of like the lone critic who gave The Dark Knight a bad score because alot more peopel would read his review.

  • Skedoosh. have you read the novel? trust me. they're not complaining to get attention, They're complaining because they're pissed that they're fucking up the characters. I, personaly, Am especially pissed At what they did To Osymandias. Let's just say His appearance In the novel had an important role in the story.

  • I have read the novel many times, and I too, am not exactly happy with Ozymandias, but I do understand the choices that were made when making his costume. His costume has does not have an important role int he story, it has an important role to his character. But I think they really emphasized the whole egyptian warrior theme,the molded abs and nipples were the way armor was back then, and his cape is very, very bright in the new trailer. In fact,he looks nothign like this photo in new shots.

  • really? *whew* Good. There are also a couple other things I'm worried about though. Like the mars scene, the scene with the comedian and Murdoc, and what I'm most worried about, how they're gonna pull off the Backstories of Each and every character in a 2, maybe 3 hour film without Half-assing it. :( they may be a bit hard on the film, But they have a point. This could be a complete Disaster.

  • i like ur accent

  • the commentary is so funny but probably true. I would have preferred a different director. Should still be good though.

  • the commentary was hilarious. what a disaster. why didn't you guys edit the bickering and the copy and paste shit?

  • holy shit the comedian looks psycho

  • Have you read the novel? He is psycho lol

    and he's kind of an ass

  • you guys may be fans of the comic but you don't seem to know much about film. while it may turn out to be a letdown - which i hope it isn't - it won't be for any of the reasons you mentioned.

    Steve Spielberg??... PLEASE!!!- he'd get it sooo wrong. Indy 4 was shit!!

    Terry Gilliam might have done a good job on watchmen but after making shit like The Brothers Grimm, i doubt it.

    Zack is the man. Dawn of the dead was really well made as was 300

  • you can't down a director based on 1 bad movie......

  • Indy 4 wasn't really Spielberg's fault, the acting wasn't awful, but the script was, which is Georges fault.

  • yeah seriously. I enjoyed Indy 4 a little bit, but i totally understand why so many people hate it. But I think the problem was that Lucas tried to hard to convert everything to the 1950's era by including Aliens and nuclear bombs. But the action sequences were classic Indy and Harrison Ford was as good as ever.

  • Why was I alerted by email that this was a reply to my post?

  • Love Silk Spectre, her alone will attract new fans to the Watchmen. Rorschach is chillingly close to the novel, while Nite Owl has been given a much needed redesign showing his comparisim to Batman which was the intention. Comedian looks ace but not sure about Ozzy, bit too similar to Nite Owl with the body armour and Goode is too young and light weight to portray Veidt.

  • The reason Snyder is doing the costumes in this way is to comment on the disconstruction of super hero movies when the comic commented on the disconstruction of super hero comics. Hence why Ozy looks like he is from Batman & Robin,why Nite Owl has high tech armour to comment on Batman's cloth and spandex cloths in the comic to high tech armour in the movies.Silk Spectre costume comments on superhero woman into movies how they are made to look sexier with tighter clothes.

  • you guys never really cut to the chase...

  • i really wanted to think that you guys knew what you were doing. but unfortunatley i've seen better videos. you guys blew

  • This was such a clusterfuck to listen to.

  • guys! you're digging too deep. Way too deep. This is going to be a movie, not the final word on the graphic novel. Your concerns over the 'Comedian' are unfounded. Your concerns over the 'Night Owl' are unfounded. I'll address the ladder.... You say the 'Night Owl' is a regular guy in a costume.... that is wrong... Read the book again. The 'Night Owl' can take down an entire group of thugs, he's not a wimp or a regular guy, he is known for his gadgets and detailed costumes... sorry I saw this.

  • gnovel is good but man still overhyped specialy the movie.

  • what a waste of time

  • You talk too much, LOOSER. Just show us the pics and SHUT UP!! Some people think there sooooooooo important! SHUT UP, SHUT UP!!!!!!!!!

  • it's spelled loser... just one 'O' just trying to help, but if you must, say something about a person you dont know... say it in a negative light, hell, say something about my mother, maybe that you had sex with her, or that you do it on a regular basis, I care not.

  • The Comedian wore SEVERAL COSTUMES in the comic and in the scenes I've seen from this movie! This is his Battle Costume, which is different from the one he wore in the "Crimebusters Meeting" scene which you commentators are ATTEMPTING to talk about! Why focus on this one as though this is the only costume he'll wear in the movie? Also, Nite Owl's costume is SUPPOSE to resemble Batman's, as it did in the comic, and while Nite Owl ATTEMPTED an exoskeleton ala Iron Man, we didn't see him wear it!

  • I personally trust this script in David Hayter's hands, and the whole movie in Zack Snyder's. Definitely more than I would any other writer-director duo.

  • Metal...GEAR!?

  • jesus christ shut the fuck up! it's a movie!

  • i like watchmen more then any other super hero comics because its very different in a way...and plus its more realisticly gruel in a way because in other super hero comics theres not rape or child molesters or more gore and shit...watchmen gives it a more realistic view of how ugly that what criminals can do. cant wait for the movie...its going to be the best super hero movie.

  • Jesus guys decide what your going to say before you start talking!!!!

  • WTF are people talking about? I just read the Watchman Series and the trailer and look of it is really close to the comics and the story is faithful.

  • I don't see the problem here. The Comedian looks just like he did in the comics. And if they're taking his character from David Hayter's script, he'll be fine.

  • wow, guys seriously, REHERSE WHAT UR GUNA SAY. U SPENT OVER 5 MINS ON ONE PIC AND AT LEAST 3 MINS OR MORE IN TOTAL ARGUING AMONGST URSELVES ABOUT WAT U SHUD DO, WATS RIGHT AND WATS WRONG!!!

  • Well if Snyder plays the heroes like straight heroes (just like he did in 300) Alan is gonna be sick to the core - and Snyder will have TOTALLY missed the point.

  • Alan's gonna hate this film, as much or even more than the others. I can Feel it... I mean They just keep getting it wrong.

  • what is the song at the beginning, please ?

  • it makes sense-character wise

  • I am just amazed that they wasted this much energy on pictures. But to make matters worse they wasted my time. They like to talk like Snyder never read the graphic novel. If anything, i admire zach for making the movie. for making 300 and to make it sell when everybody told him that it wouldn't work. Really, grow up you stupid, ignorant geeks. I am a fan of the book and i trust the movie will be just as good.

  • Yeah. Night Owl pretty much looks like Batman.

  • thats sort of the point

  • Zack Snyder was interviewed recently and had this to say about fan reactions to the costumes - "if you think the fact that Ozy's costume has nipples is a mistake or that we don't understand the design, then it's like to me that's crazy. It's just you really need to pay more attention to what we're doing".does anyone understand what he's trying to say here? Is he making the costumes deliberately bad? Why? - has anyone seen just how AWFUL the Minutemen photo is? What's the agenda?

  • Dude, the guy on this sounds like such a bitch! "If it's not a big deal, why did you search for it on youtube?" ...Because I heard that David Hayter did the screenplay, thats why!

    And, everyone's right; wait to see it first! Based on the trailers, I thought Stardust (unrelated movie of course) was gonna be shit when I was forced to watch it... But it kicked ass! "Dont judge a book..."

  • Dude, Stardust was based off a novel written by NEIL GAIMAN. Yeah, the guy who did Sandman.

  • Ahh, I had no clue

  • You shouldn't watch the movie if you're oh so obviously going to be insulted by it.

    Look,the comic was a once off work of art.

    No film by any director is ever going to surpass the world created by Moore,Gibbons and Higgins.I left out Mills because I'm not sure of his input,probably political or historical.Anyway,you should look forward to the movie as a hollywood tribute,nothing more.

    Don't blame Snyder,It's just the nature of comic-movie crossovers.I'm hoping it will be a

    worthy tribute though.

  • Bicth! Bitch! non of u have seen the movie

    notin is wrong with the costumes, they look advance at the same time outdated in terms of their design. Night Owl looks like batman(when batman was first introduced)because he was design off batman and another old superhero. The Comdedian is a crazy A-moral warhead M-fucker his picture is fitting

  • Yes modern looks would be appropriate... IF THE NOVEL AND THE MOVIE WEREN'T SET IN THE EIGHTIES!

  • Fucked up accent.

  • Dumbasses.

  • Yea, from what I understand the makers of the movie are dead set on making an adaptation that Moore actually likes (not gonna happen cuz he won't watch it) so thats good news. I'm just afraid that Moore's stuff is so literary that no film could could contain it. V came close in some ways. Frank Millers stuff works well on screen because its cinematically inspired anyway. I'm not sure how Watchmen will work outside the confines of a comic page.

  • dude v was terrible in that respect, it left out ALL mentions of anarchism save for that one horrible scene where the vandal screams "ANARCHY IN THE UK!" which is exactly the kind of impression of anarchy moore was trying to drive people away from

  • Oh dear god. Why would you even make this?

  • you guys are wack ........... shut the hell up you dont know what the comedian is doing there....your bad shut up

  • "yawn" stop this is a waste of time.

  • why the fuck does night owl look like batman? its not right!!!

  • lol I know

  • that's a really, really stupid question

    are you sure you read Watchmen?

    or anything at all?

    next thing, you might even notice the similarites between Manhattan/Ozymandias and Superman

    but i think you need to graduate middle-school first

  • Nite Owl= Tony Stark/Escalation

  • I dont why I bothered to waste my time listening to this shit. These guys are making judgements on the characters and come to all these conclulsions of how theyll be portrayed based on some advanced photos. Nothing but speculation. Come back and argue after youve seen the film.

  • I get the feeling these two never read the Watchmen or how they were taken from the Charlton Heroes. I think we need to boycott any vids by folks who wanna talk about comic book movies and dont read the books.

  • Little unfair dont ya think'?. If you didint know what Watchmen was about an looked at a single pic of Comedian smiling in the comic book' you could say "Looks like a crazy guy" give the actor benefit o the doubt coz you aint seen him acting yet. Plus' how can you say costume wrong for Night-Owl coz hes an "Ordinary guy"?, he built a flippin floating owl ship for c^#ps sake!.LoL.

  • Plus spandex on an overweight, middle-aged guy would totally put it into farce territory...though Alan Moore might've wanted it that way.

  • Wearas turning him into Batman works?

  • As far as i know, Alan Moore wrote Watchmen as an indictment on the superhero genre in the 80s. Maybe Snyder's using the overstylized costumes as his own case against the superhero movie genre...it might work or it may be another LXG fiasco, i don't know.

    What i do know is that Snyder's overanalyzing an already intellectual story that was already perfect when it came out in 1986.

    If he messes it up,well....

  • I think probably Moore would dispute that Watchmen was a complete indictment of the superhero genre of course there was awhile when he regretted ever having created Watchmen

    because of the way that alot of other comics creators borrowed from the surface elements of Watchmen and The Dark Knight Returns with none of Moore or Miller's insights and instead

    just gave us grim and gritty superhero comics.

  • Spot on,mate..i think i read that somewhere during the 90s. Alan Moore was asked if the Watchmen contributed to the rising tide of "extreme" comics and he said something along those lines. My opinion though was that grim and gritty superhero comics entirely missed the point on what Alan Moore (and in a sense,Frank Miller.) were trying to convey as storytellers.

  • Yeah, I was getting into a lot of really cheesy comics that drew their ideas from Watchmen but didn't have the same potency or subtlety that Moore is so good at.

    Thank God for the Sandman

  • it was NOT written as an indictment or parody...a satire, maybe

    Watchmen is an example of deconstruction/post-modernism; in fact, it may be the definitive ( and certainly the most imitated ) example

    by the way, this will NOT be another LXG

    of that much, i'm sure

    also by the way, these guys commenting have got almost everything wrong

  • Yeah these douchebags are just looking for a reason to bitch. The movie may turn out to miss a lot of the subtext but may still be a good movie and then...guess what you still have Watchmen to read.

  • If you dont mind being exploited by hollywood go on by your ticked when it comes out.

  • Only I can judge what is fair value for me. For me to pay to see a movie in no way constitutes exploitation. It is a fair exchange of values that simply do not involve you or your infantile opinions.

  • sure....

    They might not be exploiting u. Because obviously your on another level as far as intellegence than the average movie goer. But in general, Yes hollywood execs are exploiting comic book fans.

  • Why are you bothering to argue with this guy? Look at the way he started his argument. He is obviously not worth it. Save your typing.

  • Sci-fi fan wannabe terrorists are so cute. They make me want to declare jihad.

  • im tired of hearing this negative shit. comedian is EXACTLY the way he looked in the comic. if snyder changed the look..fanboys freak..he keeps them the same...fanboys freak. but your right about one thing tjialpha, some fans probably do have to be told whats good and bad. but if the studios dont do it, you seem perfectly happy to! its like you want it to be bad so all your negativity will be validated

  • And the Phsntom-Of-Hope said that people do respect this? after seeing this? was he kidding or was he serious?

  • You need to go on super hero hype forums, or any forum other than the talkback world forum. You will be AMAZED at the dogged support of this film. It is astonishing. Dare you try and oppose the film on there and watch yourself get burned up. I have little faith in fandom these days. The studios are right, maybe fans really have no idea what is good or bad. They need to be told by the studio.

  • Whatever would we do without the great and wise studios? I have no faith whatsoever in Hollywood to do justice to any of Moore's work, I've been on the Comicon forum

    the Diamond International forum, Newsarama, Neil Gaiman's forum and several other forums. Not one of them are 100% behind this film.

  • Yeah man, some people can't just accept that this film is in the wrong hands and has already started on a terrible foot with Snydes, a 2hr running time single movie AND a cast of average to crappy actors with what look like action costumes of the modern era.

  • I actually think the cast is fairly good. I'd rather have this current cast as opposed to Celebrities.

  • I'm on page 5 of chapter 5 of watchmen and I even realize that making these costumes too advance will take away from the movie Watchmen. They are normal people and that fact I gaurantee you has and will completely illude snydes when making his decisions while filming watchmen.

  • I'm on page 5 of chapter 5 of watchmen and I even realize that making these costumes too advance will take away from the movie Watchmen. They are normal people and that fact I gaurantee you has and will completely illude snydes when making his decisions while filming watchmen.

  • I like how they made ozy

  • LMAO Ozymandias was bullied into wearing the costume hahahaha

  • the ozymandias picture is horrific...

  • Yeah, the images look too pretty.

  • That one character has got the nipples on the suit ha ha.

    Great talk back =)

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