You may want to see "Inception", there´s a similar pattern there....we don´t know for sure what´s real or not, those type of movies play with that notion and enhance it.
@fedea82 I was just about to say something very similar! Inception seems more brain-as-psyche-centered (die in dream, you just meta-awaken) whereas the Matrix is always bodily-self projections--whether program or brain generated--within the virtual architectonic. In latter case theres no time dilation/contract'n in moving between levels, but presumably theres still dreaming in both (reality & matrix). So, Matrix seems 'it-from-bit' centered.
Phenomenal consciousness remains a mystery in both. Could Matrix/Real be virtual to each other? Sort of...what with the whole 'phone booth uploading' and all--i see no prob with traveling from matrix->reality through a chair of some sort since since one's matrix brain is not a brain & info can travel via hard lines. But, back to Inception--what is LIMBO...still some questions about that. Hows that work? Howd he get younger body guards? what if u die in LIMBO? And after that?
I forget who said these words: When I look out of the window, all that I see I can describe mathmatically. It's not like we live in a mathematical world; it's like the world /is/ maths.
Another way to conceptualise it is (imperfectly) to imagine an inflating bubble ... but not in 3 dimensions; it has no true end point but a 'skin' of infinity. It is this skin where information is worked mathematically and everything 'inside' the skin is kind of a holographic creation of the 'skin program'.
Your tri-cameral revolutionary thought again. I can relate, I hated the sequels too. Buncha monotheist pablum for the conditioning apparatus. Hume, Nietzsche and Locke building back doors for the human who is "more human than human". If the matrix were full of revolutionary politics, certain programs would fight to be jacked into being jacked into the matrix. Here's a need for certain bots ITRW to aid Zion? It's a nice robots back to viral "tools" scenario. I'm thinking to my host self, BRB.
I would have liked it if he found out that the "real world" with the squids was part of another matrix, a matrix embedded in a matrix if you will. :)
trick0171 4 weeks ago
You may want to see "Inception", there´s a similar pattern there....we don´t know for sure what´s real or not, those type of movies play with that notion and enhance it.
fedea82 1 month ago
@fedea82 I was just about to say something very similar! Inception seems more brain-as-psyche-centered (die in dream, you just meta-awaken) whereas the Matrix is always bodily-self projections--whether program or brain generated--within the virtual architectonic. In latter case theres no time dilation/contract'n in moving between levels, but presumably theres still dreaming in both (reality & matrix). So, Matrix seems 'it-from-bit' centered.
emblemOFbeing 1 month ago
Phenomenal consciousness remains a mystery in both. Could Matrix/Real be virtual to each other? Sort of...what with the whole 'phone booth uploading' and all--i see no prob with traveling from matrix->reality through a chair of some sort since since one's matrix brain is not a brain & info can travel via hard lines. But, back to Inception--what is LIMBO...still some questions about that. Hows that work? Howd he get younger body guards? what if u die in LIMBO? And after that?
emblemOFbeing 1 month ago
how comes you dont like the sequels?
SkidRowRadio 1 month ago
I can't see you!
canucks117 1 month ago
mother of god
Refreshernoob 1 month ago
have you seen "synecdoche, new york"? i think it would be very relevant to your interests.
WeirdUniverse 1 month ago
that would create an infinite loop?
wonderpope 1 month ago
I forget who said these words: When I look out of the window, all that I see I can describe mathmatically. It's not like we live in a mathematical world; it's like the world /is/ maths.
Another way to conceptualise it is (imperfectly) to imagine an inflating bubble ... but not in 3 dimensions; it has no true end point but a 'skin' of infinity. It is this skin where information is worked mathematically and everything 'inside' the skin is kind of a holographic creation of the 'skin program'.
fuckoverload 1 month ago
Matriception
Ioganstone 1 month ago
Have you ever seen the movie The 13th Floor?
I think you'd like it. A lot.
fuckoverload 1 month ago
Id be one of those who when they take me out of the matrix saying, "put me back in!"
SatiricalStewie 1 month ago
@SatiricalStewie or some combinations of those words that makes a real sentence
SatiricalStewie 1 month ago
@SatiricalStewie make* its a bad day
SatiricalStewie 1 month ago
Your tri-cameral revolutionary thought again. I can relate, I hated the sequels too. Buncha monotheist pablum for the conditioning apparatus. Hume, Nietzsche and Locke building back doors for the human who is "more human than human". If the matrix were full of revolutionary politics, certain programs would fight to be jacked into being jacked into the matrix. Here's a need for certain bots ITRW to aid Zion? It's a nice robots back to viral "tools" scenario. I'm thinking to my host self, BRB.
kern0099 1 month ago
Interesting... Yeah I wish the "real world" in the Matrix sequels would have been edited out about 90% ...or maybe 92 :)
YTCBM 1 month ago