Why do Scientologists INSIST ON DENYING XENU?

[Chilldudeski]

The words religion and cult are interchangeable.

[4444colin]

The Interviewer is disgustingly rude. He needs to learn poise and control. 

[jnycnuk]

An Internal Revenue Service ruling in 1967 stripped Scientology's mother church of its tax-exempt status. A federal court ruled in 1971 that Hubbard's medical claims were bogus and that E-meter auditing could no longer be called a scientific treatment. Hubbard responded by going fully religious, seeking First Amendment protection for Scientology's strange rites. His counselors started sporting clerical collars. Chapels were built, franchises became "missions,"

[myownruin187]

@PariahEarth} sense u've allowed them to

Convince u of this nothing short if a cult, is there a chance u can, oh i dont know suck my space joystick and swallow some Xenu juice and maybe i'll probe u in ur anus alittle and ofcourse we can do this wile whatching The Passion of the Christ!! Hhmm what do u say, what r my chances!? ;-) come on be a be a pal, i"ll dress up capt kirk if u like but thats it!

[humzon]

XENUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

[PariahEarth]

THE PURPOSE OF THE XENU STORY IS TO DETER ALL MATERIALISTS. We are powerful magical beings dont be brain washed into thinking that this is fiction. WE ARE THE CREATORS. LEAVE YOUR MATERIALS BEHIND AND BECOME ONE WITH THE CREATOR. ETERNAL HAPPINESS AWAITS YOU.

[bulseye111]

@PariahEarth shut the fuck up troll

[StopSpamming1]

People believe in talking snakes and ants or flying horses - so why not Xenu?

[Scientologee]

They insist on denying Xenu because they know it is official bullshit, and that if this idea was universally explored and talked about, then the jig would be up. The fucked up thing is that David Miscavige is taking Xenu out of the texts.....so that new scientologists wont see it anymore.

[Archie54able]

this cult is a science fiction movie and it's hypnotised members live that science fiction dream ....lol

[Archie54able]

cults usually have secrets codes but this one not anymore ....lol

[poopjuice0]

well, ANOTHER thing scientologists don't realize is that the hawaiian volcanoes, 77 million years ago, did not exist. The oldest hawaiian volcano is approximately 11 million years old. Even if they're older, there is a 66 million year margin of error. This is according to the Department of Geology and Geophysics at the University of Hawaii. Professionals and PhD's with scientific evidence to support their claims and their research. What do ya got to say to that RON?

[joereece86]

I am Xenu!! I will consume all of your SOULS!!

[8bobthebuilder]

Why scientologists deny Xenu: coz to learn about Xenu you gotta pay money, so if you walk to someone and haven't paid they can't tell you didly-squat and have probably been sworn to secrecy not to divulge...

[Sketto8]

Tommy and David should commit homocide.

[boi187]

"to the supreme RULAAAH"

[Zalrok1]

Unlike many cults in the 1950s, it's members haven't commited mass suicide in the past 50 odd years since the cults creation. I totally wish that everyone would leave all at once and Tommy and David would suicide/homicide. That would make me happy. Plus that sort of sounds like doing a Hiltler.

[stayjit1]

Any religion that denies it's own creation myth is not a religion at all, it's a cult.

[coralin378]

wow the scientologists recorded in so many of the videos are rude. They always like to interrupt and they have that obnoxious way of denying any valid point brought up. "I don't know what you're talking about." What bullshit.

[Robstailey]

billy sheehan was a wicked bassist

[dakotagerman1]

Cult of $cientology is just crawling with reptilians who are liars and deceivers.

[TheBlueWhale011]

The fact that people (some quite intelligent and well-educated) would believe in $cientology and Xenu proves the sophisticated and powerful nature of mind-control and brainwashing.

[danwarb1]

They're told to say you've never heard of it, that it's 'privileged' information that might send us ordinary people crazy. They either believe it, or they're trying really hard to accept it since they've paid a lot of money to reach level 3.

[juggalopenguin1134]

idgaf about his beliefs or cult/religon whatever you want to say, Billy sheehan is a badass bass player. that's all i care about

[joetri10]

its a shame they deny it :/.. Because when i saw a show about this cult, it made me sick but then they brought up Xenu and i do admit, i pissed myself laughing..

[SkyBlueAugust]

LOL!  Crazy! Poor Katie Holmes!

[SvenTviking]

Hubbard told people he was going to make lots of money by inventing a religion. And he did! And yet people still fall for it.

And "Xenu! Its like a star trek name, totally lame. Why couldn't he be called Trevor or Dave?oh, wait a minute, Gene Roodenberry was a Scientologist!

[abby495]

So did L Ron Hubbard make this up I know he's a scifi writer but what an interesting story line...an alien mind control implant...interesting.

[caseyrainer]

what is OT-3, OT-8, etc?

[JackD413]

@caseyrainer It's their ranking system -- rofl

[mantisfistvideos]

@caseyrainer levels of scientology, the more you pay the higher you go, ot iii is the xenu story and ot 8 is a letter from Lronious (L ron hubbard) saying all reliongs are false and him and Buddha are going to fight to save us all

[Psy0psAgent]

@caseyrainer operating thetan - level 8

[benjwgarner]

Either because they're not OT III yet, or if they are, they're worried it will give you pneumonia if you hear it or they know that it's so batshit insane that it will make people dislike the CoS.

[opensourcethong]

@benjwgarner i think a lot of Scientologists genuinely believe that telling people who haven't achieved OTIII yet about Xenu will give them pneumonia. L. Ron Hubbard made them believe that as a way of stopping them from speaking about it cos' he knew full well it'd be bad PR for them if they talked freely about all the crackpot stuff they believe in

[BobCassidy]

Maybe at OT9 they say the whole Xenu story is a load of crap and thats why they deny it!!

[CandyCaneCrucifix]

bad liars.

[RustinWilsonWasAMan]

if christ is a mind controll implant then maybe the pope is xenu in human form omg omg hahahahaha crazy scientologists never disopoint

[bapyou]

Beethoven for the win!

[DonMega187]

why they deny it? that's cos even they recognize how unbelievably stupid it sounds and it ridicules them hahaha

[globe255]

Why do people pay thousands of dollars to see some crap? They do it because they are brainwashed, thats it!

[BigSovietPanda]

supreme RULLA!

[monkeymohawk4U]

DID ANYONE ELSE NOTICE EPIC FAIL GUY!!???

[GermanChocolateCake]

You know, at least those scientologists were fairly civil in their responses. A pleasant surprise really. I guess I'm too used to the attack dog behavior we usually see.

[SEANMiXBOYLA]

wow there realy are stupid man theese ppl must be on one great drug wow!!!!!

[04carrolld]

how do you join anominas? (cant spell xD)

[Steve7508]

They save up the stuff about Xenu until after you've spent a shitload of money and you're too deeply involved and indoctrinated to back out. That's why they hate people mentioning it - out of that context you can see it for the bullshit it really is.

[Obamaownswhitesnow]

@Steve7508 I completely agree w/you on that.

[abelkadabel]

Holly crap. Hubbard must have liked some strong,strong drugzzz.

I will will start my own church :Shitology. I will introduce it to my deciples

and grow a strong innercircle of peopl and feel supreme as human beings.

Start next week in Hollywood.(probably I will succeed,I´m sorry to say).

[Averagegamer100]

@abelkadabel He was actually on drugs for at least his last few years.

[jt55106]

Wait wait wait ,,, So you people that are posting this shyt  at one time believed it ?

[jimmah1967]

Little known fact-Xenu comes from the planet Coultis.

[lesliekwan80]

Talking shit about scientology is all fine 'n dandy ... try talking shit about Christianity. Suddenly it becomes taboo ... and disrespectful of people's beliefs.

Religion/Cults are bullshit.

[Angus1966]

A jew is always a jew. What are they really up to ?

[iamanonwearelegion]

A lot of people get minor details in the Xenu story wrong, It was 75 million years. Some people also think that the aliens were not executed here on earth, and south park believes they were dumped in the volcano, it was actualy around the volcano.

These details are important to know because when you bring it up, the more detials you have wrong the less they are afraid their secret is out. Listen to L Rons lecture, get the details right.

[ToryMagoo44]

Amazing how they flat out LIE, but here is the truth: They *have* to lie, it's a "High Crime" for them to ever, in any way, discuss ANY of the Confidential materials (OT 3 on up, which of course includes Xenu). Even I fought critics using Xenu, until I thankfully woke up and LEFT Scientology, forever. However, that IS the confidential, hand written material re OT 3.

It's sad to hear them lie through their teeth, but I understand they have no choice, while "in". My best :) TLC.

[ToryMagoo44]

3:50 4:00, 4:15+ That's me, Tory pointing out one more "OT" Lying through his teeth.

To anyone lurking: Bail while you can!

It's SO much better out here! :)

Tory/Magoo

[xenuisot3]

totally wacko

[tupacole]

fuckin lunatics.

[micap20078]

the only part That i argee with is jesus was created for mind control

however there are other elements of it that sound like a familar story...

[Nguli34689]

If true, then why don't the scientologists debunk the Xenu mythos as vigorously as their critics?

[ButtersStotch7000]

I love how the Xenu story was exposed in the 90's, but Scientologists under OT3 still know nothing about it.

[seansalvador1]

Why do they say they've never heard of it? Even when they've been asked about it before, saying they've never heard of it is just mendacious

[2009Together]

Grown adults of Scientology do you actually believe in Xenu and body aliens that have infested your body......Wooooooooooooo that is some shallow shit !

[noblewulfff]

@2009Together why dont you idiots get it! cant you see that the xenu story is the same story told in the bible about lucifer falling from heaven which is too is the same story written in stone by the summerians talking about the reptilian gods, every god damn culture has a story similar, how can u not see this

[TheFingerbuns]

@noblewulfff

How does that resemble buddhism at all?

[noblewulfff]

@TheFingerbuns dont worry bout it in the next 10 years youll see

[TheFingerbuns]

@noblewulfff

How so?

[iamitchey]

I have often wondered, is it possible Scientology now teaches a different story when you reach OT3?

[finchparade]

hahahaha what kind of derailed fuckbag could possibly believe in scientology?

[rade1809]

Tom Cruise...

I think that says it all

[FeralRat]

@finchparade Thing is, they try to keep it secret so they can rope people in before the crazy stuff gets thrown in. It's like a slow desensitization to the weirdness.

[DonMega187]

@FeralRat my thoughts exactly. it's so obvious u know

[CrowServo3000]

@finchparade scientology is proof you can convince people of anything

[Obamaownswhitesnow]

@finchparade Apparently there are millions of lonely souls, full of ignorance and willing to PAY their asses just to hear all this extraterrestrial BULLSHIT.

[DonMega187]

@Obamaownswhitesnow the real world is one scary place, millions want an escape, even if it leads them to the looneybin / nuthouse.

[Obamaownswhitesnow]

@DonMega187 Agree.

[Obamaownswhitesnow]

@finchparade Apparently many of them.

[DonMega187]

@finchparade tom cruise does lmao

[WilAzzamEdison]

@finchparade some of it is true .. the development part.. but yeah really..LOL Scientology is Evil right??? Hug me biotch

[Robstailey]

@finchparade celebrities. fascists. idiots.

[pvtread]

@finchparade TOM CRUISE

[AximKK92]

@finchparade or any religion at all...

[PariahEarth]

@finchparade

THROUGH HATE YOU ARE UNDONE.. WE ARE ONE PEOPLE. ESCAPE THE PARIAH. ITS TIME FOR US TO JOIN THE UNIVERSE. LIFE EXISTS OUTSIDE OF THE PHYSICAL WORLD.

[finchparade]

@PariahEarth haha dumb shit, you don´t have to pay for salvation.

[Icemangqx]

Man when doing a documentary don't use words like lulz or owned. I know you would like to send a message but I feel the subtitle narration is biased. Other then that I thought this was alright. I don't support Scientology in anyway.

[sixstringpsyco]

Just coincidence that Steve Vai booted him out of the band right after this?????

[DeathereX]

By the way, the church of scientology has now released a commercial on OT 3, and that is because scientology has grown to a point where they are not hiding facts anymore because of the gradient that now has increased. in other words, COS believes now that so many people know what scientology really is, so they now can release some higher gradient as to OT materials.

You can probably find it easily, it was sent out to all scientologists about 3 weeks ago!

[DeathereX]

I'm sorry. it seems like I explained myself in the wrong way. what i tried to say what that I agreed when I read the introduction of one of the ideas in dianetics, I did read through it and agreed after reading it through aswell, but I had a sensation where I just knew that it was true before I was done reading it because it fits to my previous ideas on the subject.

[hangover71]

trianed to  LIE....!!

[DeathereX]

well i must agree, i dont want criminals or sick people in this world, but i suppose homosexuality is a somewhat unnatural condition, like a genderconfusion. I've havent ever read anything in scientology that I didnt agree with, its even extreme that I already agreed before reading the stuff. Scientology is great, but if there are people doing criminal acts in scientology, there are people who have their eyes open and they will be declared sp's.

[p3ppyhar3]

you agreed before you even read the stuff?....so you are admitting you blindly followed something? Like a sheep or lemming? What about Xenu trapped in his electronic trap after he blew up the thetans with an H-bomb in the volcanos? you agree with that? oh wait that is OT3 and if you hear that information you have solved a part of your implant...oops sorry...according to LRON you now have pneumonia and will die soon...do you agree with that?

[DeathereX]

who are you to say whats reality? there are different universes, and if they feel that being a scientologist is the game they want to play in this universe, then it should be their choice, you are not authority over reality.

[DeathereX]

well i agree with you but theres no way to stop scientology.

[tryss]

there is no way to stop homelessness either but if we can bring a single scientologist to reality then by all means we should.

[DeathereX]

why is it so important, let them believe in xenu if they want, find something better to do than bashing religions.

[11Jamie11]

It's important because people continue to get sucked into this sick web, drained of their money, life-time, energy, relationships, and everything else, and then attacked and in a few cases even killed when they try to warn others. Do you have any compassion for innocent people getting destroyed by a machine like that? If so, then help prevent it by exposing Lie-entology.

Of course people can believe what they want. But they can't be allowed to destroy others because of it.

[tryss]

it's important because people need to know about the dangers decades ago we did not have the internet to discuss scientology as we are right now. you have a point with a freedom of thought but scientology is much more than that

[pedrofcuk]

excuse me! scientology advocates doing away with criminals, gays, sick people, anyone who doesn't want scientology and anyone who disagrees with them, DON'T call it a religion, it is not.

[Ubertastic]

Its a cult

[doobedoo22]

Scientologists are the biggest losers on planet Earth today.

[analyzingfunny]

The biggest LIYING-ist LOOSERS on the planet today!!

[saynotocults]

"Where do you get your information from?" The same pre-programmed response from every $cilon. And they say they're not brainwashed.

[annonbanana]

Today Tonight Exposes Scientology Cult's Xenu Doctrines:

watch?v=LeKEkED2T9o

[youtert]

Hole shit dude, don't fuck with an OT 8! They'l l zap you with their mind rays!

[youtert]

See, they already reached out through the Internet and fucked up my spelling abilities!

[GetTheCans]

Ah my head asplode!

[Obamaownswhitesnow]

@youtert haaaaaaaaaaaaaahahahahaha!

[soulinite]

lol, Hail Xenu!

[jdtrickster4]

watch?v=oR2b4_z5JZw

Hear Hubbard talk about Xenu in his own voice too.

As a side note, notice how similar Xenu is to -xeno, as in xenophobic: Suffering from xenophobia, a fear or hatred of strangers or foreigners.

[KenshinKunsinagi]

xeno means outsider. Xenomorph, Xenophile, etc. Just cause Xenu sounds like xeno doesn't mean its connected to xenophobe.

[jdtrickster4]

I said "notice how similar Xenu is to -xeno," as in xenophobic: Suffering from xenophobia, a fear or hatred of strangers or foreigners.

* xen- xeno-

Ancient Greek "xénos," foreign, of a stranger

1. Having to do with foreigners: xenophobia

2. From a foreign place: xenolith

3. Alternative form of xen-

Xenu's only connected with L Ron's mind & $cn. Neither of us knows if it was or not connected to xenophobe but with what I know of him, it's possible it was a subconscious Freudian slip.

[jdtrickster4]

Xenu is Christianity's Satan...the Devil made me do it. Upper level $ciLentologists "KNOW" Xenu causes all manner of evil or aberrated things to happen here on this planet - at least for those who FULLY BUY this crap. If one suffers from bursitis of the elbow, there's a disembodied spirit who's causing this, see?

As for who'd take God's place who created it ALL, well, LRH says he's $ciLentology's SOURCE & claimed 'it' was SENIOR TO LIFE cause it handled ALL the factors of life- you do the math.

[ab1tchslap]

Well if Xenu is made up, then, what do scientologists believe?

[jdtrickster4]

Xenu is made up alright, ab...by sci-fi writer eLCONBlubbard for his fake religion that uses psychological processes & practices psychiatry without a license so it needs 2b "cloaked" as a religion. Scygoons is either a bold-faced liar or doesn't know if he hasn't reached the level. ASK HIM! If he's OT3, he KNOWS Xenu exists. Go to the ex-scn kids site, they have good simple answers to this & other questions. Look up eLron's handwritten notes on the net or ask me, I was in for almost 30 yrs!

[ab1tchslap]

You were a scientologist for 30 years?

[jdtrickster4]

Well, I was public & was off and on. I guess I always had doubts about one thing or another but from the time I got in, in 1978 till 2004 when I started to read stuff on the net from critics, yes, 26 yrs. But I first encountered a $cientologist book seller on the streets in '74 at which time I dissuaded another friend of mine from getting the Dn book, then got him in 4 yrs later. Amazing, huh?! I never experienced a lot of the worst of $cn but in retrospect, I always saw the potential for harm.

[laserofjustice]

Imagine spending many years of your life and just about all the money you have (and don't have) "going up the bridge"...to find that the higher level secrets are based on bad Sci-Fi, you'd deny it! $cientology is an embarassment now, a very expensive one.

[jdtrickster4]

The real reason it's denied is because those who've done the level or higher ones, have been bonded against revealing THE SECRET(s)! If they do they're not only breaking this but are also expelled from the 'church' which in turns makes them SPs and cannot ever see nor speak to their family members who are in $ciLentology. For the majority who have not attained this level, as it costs hundreds of thousands of USDs to get there, they simply have TRULY never heard of Xenu. (cont'd)

[jdtrickster4]

The reason -according to $ciLentology- is people will get extremely ill & even die if they find out about Xenu before they're ready. Of course, the REAL REASON is who in their right mind would continue with this farce if they knew from the start, see? Once you achieve Clear, you do 2 quick steps OT1 & 2 & you're ready for the WALL OF FIRE= (OT3) [Braze yourself!] :) It's so secretive, you can't even discuss it with your own wife if she was on the level too. They just don't want ppl talking. ;)

[stategos]

Because Xenu is kept SECRET from them for the first 10 or 20 years in Scientology. Most Scientologists indeed don't know that Xenu exists in Hubbard's writings.

[FreedomToResearch]

Deceptiontology is all about deception for $

[Riply043]

I believe that Co$ denies the XENU story because they are doing their best to distance themselves from Hubbard. LRH has become an embarassment for them and comedy routines about XENU are commonplace material now on TV.

It`s too late...the cat is out of the bag and

all the "distance" in the world can`t put Humpty Dumpty back together again.

[Yobachi2007]

Common place on TV? Where? What TV shows have done comedy tv about Xenu? Maybe on the internet, but I haven't seen it on T.V outside of the one South Park episode.

[BentSlightly]

From what I have seen there is more than one way up the bridge. I don't believe staff are revealed the Xenu thing.