@tf2weekly he didn't say that. just that their toolsets are nonexclusi today i succeeded in rolling sushi to the size of a burrito. i'm now struggling with the ethical ramifications of revealing the secret of the "sushito" to the world. is it merely western excess meets eastern cuisine? can military conflict between mexico and japan be avoided while restaurant rights are negotiated? or perhaps this is the germination of 2012 consciousness evolution? lots to ponder...e.
Watchmen was unwatchable. Mark Kermode was right when he said it was all style and no substance. It was just all wrong in it's execution. From casting to the music used. Nothing worked that made this look anything more than another Hollywood abomination. Kudos for the integrity of Alan Moore for turning down what would have been a ton of cash and his desire to disassociate himself from these travesities of his COMIC BOOKS. Yes,he refers to them as comic book and not "graphic novels"
I seriously want to know what he thinks of watchmen. sadly, the only ones I read about are he refuses to watch the film. I really want to know what he thinks though =.=
To say comic books are the greatest art form is one of the most absurd thing any artist will hear. They would laugh in your face. Alan Moore is so pretentious.
@Gunsmith42HACKERPRO And yet the film is so rigidly faithful to the book (in places) that it ceases to have any identity of its own. Every time Snyder simply recreated a tableau or series of panels from the book in his film, my only thought was "wow, I wish I was reading this instead of being forced to watch it right now."
And ironically, those moments were the only ones where the film almost worked.
It may be a tad hyperbolic to say this, but I feel Moore has done for comics what Shakespeare did for theatre or what Welles did for film. Which, is take fertile medium to a level nobody thought possible. I certainly hold "Watchmen" with the same regard as "Hamlet" or "Citizen Kane".
@TheCrimsonNutcase how does he know what hes talking about ??? hes completely right Snyder shouldn't have made it, it was a good movie just a not a good watchmen movie
@cactusjack67 Well that's just opinions. The fact that people bitch about films like Watchmen just proves the fact that fanboys will never be happy. The film was almost identical, visually and in feel. The only thing that was off was Ozymandias. The film that Snyder made was the best thing we could have got... you have read the other scripts right? People should be greatful with what we got.
@user696969 When you see this comment, go out to your local book store and pick up the Watchmen, its fantastic. I am not really a comic fan, but the watchmen is something everyone should read. Especially if you liked the film, which the book is a million times better then.
A good way to judge the mind set of Zack Snyder is to listen to him on a commentary track. Absolutely no thoughts on characters emotions or motivations. Just 'that was cgi, that shot is cgi, that looks cool and blah blah blah. He sure aint got much to say about the humnan condition .
why did sell the rights to his comics to movie makers if he didn't want them made into movies? Still he is a good comic book author for all that's worth...
@echster He didn't sell the rights, they were implicit, little do most artists especially in that era and of that age know, in the contracts you have to sign in order to actually get anything published and get paid for the work you want to do in a capitalist system. Not to mention, it is really hard to get anything anywhere without going through the corporate wealth interests, which is a very coercive dynamic, and not a matter of conscious or free choice.
Fuckin sucks that he doesn't have the rights to his comics, otherwise these crappy adaptions of his comics wouldn't have been made. When I start my career as a comic creator, I'm gonna take careful precautions so that I keep the rights to my works and away from Hollywood's grubby, dirty little hands.
Am I the only person on Earth that thinks the "Watchmen" film was totally UNfaithful to the graphic novel? Yes, visually it fetishized the source material, but it made a number of what seem to be strategically placed alterations that undermined the meaning of the novel, much in the same way that Hollywood changed the meaning of the "Wizard of Oz" from its source material. Of course, I'm probably a more paranoid person than Alan Moore is so take that with a grain of salt. Hehe! TY 4 reading.
@TheNameOfMyAccount nope i got the same impression. The movie is a Shell ,it reassembles the original material, but its essence , the soul of the story if you will is not there. And i am not talking about the changing of the ending, no, its the tone of the scenes , the acting( from mediocre to disgusting), and the context which is totally left of. If you see the movie you can t figure what makes this characeters behave as they do. Only on the surface.
@TheNameOfMyAccount On the other hand the Graphic novel , or comiics provide you of elements to understand them, not completly , they are complex but to care for them. Znyder s direction was flat, he goes for long battle sequences, sfx, photography, he lacks pacing. Well the sad part of this is this wont be filmed again. Maybe it souldnt have beeen filmed at all. Be well.
well alan moore is my top 3 writes besdies stan the man lee and warren alan moore jr ellis and i feel sorry about his movies from hell okay strike 1 lxg strike 2 because tom saywer wasnt in the gns and hollywood had put him in to play love internest v for vennda was the only good alan moore adpaton ever watchmen was good but the ending sucked for 2 reasons one doc manhanttan was the blamed and no giant squid strike 3 my boyyyyyyyyyyyy
@allthatisandeverwas Or get Richard Linklater to rotoscope the whole thing a la Scanner Darkly, which condensed and beautifully represented the novel it was based on.
He kind of unfairly represented the Watchmen movie by choosing that clip.
Watchmen was surprisingly good, and very faithful to the material. A damn sight better than any of the other Moore adaptations. Sure, the graphic novel is easily better, but the film didn't anger me!
It's true. Those films didn't even come close to what they were as graphic novels. Although I don't blame the filmmakers for trying. Once you read something that beautiful, you'd want to share it with the world. Alan Moore is one of the rare artists capable of creating such rich narratives with surprising believability and depth. Now to be able to successfully translate that into the film medium, we'll need a filmmaker who's as good at his craft as Alan Moore is with his.
Sorry to be a kill joy fellas, but I really believe that Watchmen deserved a more intelligent and adult realization. It wasn't a terrible movie by any means. But it is fundamentally un-Watchmen. Again, I didn't hate it, objectively speaking. But if you're going to spend $200 mil to make Watchmen, make the film of the decade. It really could have been something incredibly special, considering how right it got the two hardest characters: Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan.
I do however see that fact that hollywood has been over-run with ballbag movies such as Transformers 2 and is an over-used form of 'entertainment. Films can be the most beautiful forms of entertainment ever and not just jibberish.
I respect Alan Moore for his writing, it is incredibly clever but his philosophy on films as a whole has been blinded because his novels were visually realised in a way he saw inadequate. I love the Watchmen film (the ultimate cut most of all).
@Needham90 I think you're missing the forest for the trees here. He wasn't dissing filmmaking in general, he was dissing mainstream filmmaking aggressively adapting certain novels that weren't designed to be films but shouldn't be films. Watchmen movie is done and you love it so why bother making this rant? It's like you guys are trying to twist his arm into your liking & if so then that's disturbing.
To say movies spoon-feed what all books contain is not true any way. Take films such as The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (another film based on a book). That film is visual poetry and was absolutely beautiful to watch. What Alan Moore needs to do is realise that not all films are spoon-feeding trash like he says and also that graphic novels do exactly the same to books. Some stories are best written, some graphically and some visually, even both written and visualised.
(Also, The Assassination of Jesse James is not just visually stunning, it is also one of the most poetic, most brilliantly acted, beautifully written films of this decade - if not the best)
If I can be brutally honest for just one moment. Alan Moore states that films 'spoon-feed' what graphic novels and books contain. That can also be stated for Graphic novels on books. I mean Take Watchmen for instance, the only descriptive writing came from Rorschach al the rest came from Dave Gibbons' drawings. Comparing Rorschach's descriptions to the descriptions in The Road you can instantly see that graphic novels spoon-feed descriptive writing through visions.
@Needham90 Not quite, comics are a different art form, thay are not books , and not paintings or drawings, but a blend or mix of both. So most of the artwork with no captions or balloons on a comic book has a story a plot behind it. What i share of what you say is that the arts , all of them feed upon each other, and the culture on which they are created, thay have a common nuclueous. Be well
i am glad gilliham and greengrass (ooh if i wobble the camera constantly it makes it look like its real) never made this film. I think the film was pretty good especially when you think how bad it could have been.
I loved the end of this cause the lady's all, "OOOOOOH, but it looks like FUN!! teehee!" And the guy's thinking, "Dammit woman, you don't understand! Zach Snyder shouldn't be doing this!!"
Alan Moore is one of the best minds of the past century. I wish people didn't give him so much shit for his disapproving of movie adaptations/ his religion/ his beard.
I read V for Vendetta and it was great!Then I watched the movie.......it was waaay off. I looked for his name in the credits and didnt see it. I understand why he has made that choice to remove his name and refuse the money.
I was thinking about other comic movies and they all are off too.
no, he worships Glycon (a snake god)- although he admits he doesn't actually believe in the existence of Glycon, he simply follows the idea of the god... he's an odd fellow.
all time and he was right from hell ehhh lxg stuck because of tom sawyer v for vendda good and watchmen good but the ending wasn't great to the graphic novel you should read the book twice to see what's going on
Britanic? BRITANIC? You get the name of the nationality wrong, yet still think you're allowed to pass comment on the accents? And yes, that's right, accents - the plural. There's more than one BRITISH accent.
Also, pronounce the letter "i" correctly. Go on. And chances are, by the standards of thousands of others, you've pronounced it wrong. It can be pronounced "ay", "eye", "ah" or your maligned "aoy".
@lordhaku well you might be rigth because i am from canada and speak french loll so i find it funny loll but stil in hannah spearit mouth it sound like sugar
loll and personaly she is the most perfect girl hever any ways anyways the fact is that english and french from the old country is so nice loll compare to the american and canadian one loll
Wasn't aware you're not a native English speaker. Apologies - I was just feeling, as I said, a bit grouchy at the time, and am the sort of fanboy who will always rush to the defence of Alan Moore.
@amartinez97 ok i just learn something here ... because in french it does mean something else and for (lol)whe use (mdr) mort de rire ....anyways thanks for that take care
Absolutely. I love the opening credits. It was slow paced but it set the mood right. Plus the song by Bob Dylan fits the theme perfectly. I actually think Watchmen is the best comic book adaptation of Alan Moore so far. Although the movie cut down a few pieces from the source material but in the end, I think it turned out quite alright.
the bulk of the movie was ok.. but the ending? the totally changed it and therefore changed everything, they changed so many key parts of the story. it might be the best adaptation thus far but thats not saying much. it was far from the graphic novel.
I too think that in Watchmen the director actually respected Alan Moore's work enough to leave it unchanged as much as possible in a major cinematic production. The end was a compromise which was weaker then the original, but at least it didn't water down on the central premises.
Unlike the movie adaptation of V. In which the directors just weren't able to share Moore's very intelligent analysis of fascism and the mechanisms that make it work. So they just added a silly conspiracy.
@profane1972 he may have respected alan's work, but he clearly didn't respect alan, himself, because if he did, he wouldn't have stopped production when alan said tried to stop them from making the movie at all.
Ugh, I wish I never saw the Watchmen movie...I really wish Fox won the lawsuit...I mean I say it opening day, and I came home, and flipped through the comic book, only to find that Zack did the unthinkable.
He actually SOILED the book. It was a good month or two before I could feel good about it again. =[
I honestly think that Moore's work shouldn't be made into movies. I thought that Watchmen was a good movie, but only because I made a good decision to read the book first then see the movie. Mainstream audiences don't understand how good Moore's work is because they're too desensitized by violence(why Watchmen was panned by some people) or they have little to no imagination(why LGX was an awful idea from the start)
yeah this argument is void... I went to see this without knowing anything about it before other than that it was a comic-book adaption... and it's still my favorite movie of the year
Yeah, I didn't meet many people who liked the movie that much. Who read the comic or anything you know. They complained, mostly, about Dr. Manhattan's dick, and how long the movie is. Which I agree with the length, the dick part, I really couldn't care less about. But honestly, I still think they didn't get the movie perfect, and they just rushed it out to coincide with the success over the Dark Knight.
i read the comic when it came out and when i heard that a watchmen movie came out i was really thinking it was gonna blow but i have to say it was good
I mean don't get me wrong I totally understand Alan Moores point and I feel sorry for him in a way, but I really think that the host in the end of the video is a real idiot... I am a huge movie fan, I love good movies, deep movies, that make me think...Watchmen wasn't the most groundbreaking but It made me think, I think it was a really good movie and Zack Snyder made it incredibly well IMO. And considering that that host is giving up his opinion BEFORE the movies was released is driving me nuts
If the Bearnies had been in it then, maybe, the film's narrative would have had more meaning. This could have been done in the director's cut or better yet they could've taken out the horrible scene where Nite Owl and Laurie are breaking Rorschach out of prison and Nite Owl beats up like fifty people! That scene was way too long.
however he shouldnt been too harsh to say he will be spitting venom at the film and the director very harsh to some one who seems to worship you even if he is naive and stupid.
Alan Moore shoudn't be too harsh, he sees Zack Zynder as some evil money grabbing idea coporate exploiter, when he is just a stupid exited fan. Watchmen did not work and couldn't of worked as a film it was far too long yet the plot parts at the same time felt compressed, the themes could not be adapted in as well as any other literature techniques,
The movie wasn't THAT bad. Infact, it was brilliant. But it pales in comparison to the novel, and their are very movies out their right now that don't.
I feel sorry for Alan Moore, but I loved the Watchmen film. I think Alan Moore needs to realise that NO adaption out there is 100% perfect, they can never be.
But in my personal opinion, I thought Watchmen atm is the best comic adaption out there, and one of the greatest films I've seen.
@MrGre3n66 I couldnt agree more. This is the thing. You cannot adapt ANY book/novel 100%. Reason being, everyone has a different experience when reading something for the 1st time.
Watchmen is by far, the best comic to film adaptation Ive ever seen. It literally is scene for scene.
It doesn't have to be 100% perfect but it would greatly help if they can keep faithful to the original piece as much as possible. I mean, why bother adapting a fine graphic novel if you're going to change/remove key elements?
@MrGre3n66 You gotta give him credit for sticking to his ideals though. Most people, offered the amount of money they offered him, would've have broke and taken and started spewing out comics for the soul purpose to be turned into a movie. Like he said in another interview, comics have become more of story boards for Hollywood than a different medium for amazing story telling and literature.
@MrGre3n66 Not only is it a vapid translation of the comic, but it is an utterly stupid and infantile movie on its own. If you think that it in any way accurately represents any meaningful aspect of the original material, you do not understand or appreciate the original material.
Snyder did a good job considering how impossible it was to even make Watchmen into a movie. The portrayal of Dr. Manhattan was damn near perfect for cinema (non-linear time) and I thought that would be the first screw up. I still think he screwed up Rorschach and the S.Q.U.I.D. scene.
He did it horribly. Just as larsreal9 said, Zack Snyder is horrible with plot. He's really good at making a visually impacting movie, as well as doing action, but unless he has a co director, I don't think we'll see an impacting plot from him unless it's from a different writer which he goes as far as he can to try and duplicate, simular to what he did with watchmen.
I think Snyder did make the plot interesting, but I was glad that he focused less on plot, and more on creating a visceral experience of sound, visual, and imagery. Which added some emotional weight to the film, and actually manage to capture some of the depth of the graphic.
The worst part of him taking up watchmen, being an action director more than anything, is that he changed the original book of being a great psychological impactor of a book, to an action thriller. He cut scenes of the plot for more action and money shots.
You might be more correct in saying "Snyder did a good job on considering he is Snyder."
Fact is Zack Snyder's a god-awful storyteller, it was obvious from the turd known as 300. And yeah, DOTD (remake) was okay but just barely imo. Zack's good with visuals, which is what made the Rorschach's story and Dr Manhattan's so cool.
Seriously, man, I didn't, but I'm not that huge into Miller. I loved Dark Knight Returns and Year One and one of the Sin Cities but I'm not that into him, I'm glad too, because that dude has gone apeshit insane, read All Star Batman and Robin. haha
Watchmen when it came out back in 1986-1987 changed my life along with my understanding of what the comicbook could achieve as an artform and literature.
I've seen lots of films read lots of comics since then but nothing has really impacted me the way Watchmen did.
Indeed, good enough for the common lot that have a low IQ and not enough imagination to sit still and enjoy literature, but rather enjoy special effects and redundant dialogue.
That is not to say that I do not accept adaptations, Kurosawa and Kubrick did excellent works from literary sources to name some good directors.
I do not like movies that go for effects and crete an impression on teenagers, rather than an aesthetics or at least be similar in regard to content (philosophically, satire, religious, etc.) to the original work.
Still I must admit that Alan Moore is too close-minded regarding cinema.
That's why the comic lot couldn't enjoy Snyder's vision. He actually created an intelligent, sophisticated, and philosophical superhero film that defies all expectations. He stayed faithful to Moore's book, and created his best film to date. And many people will not appreciate it now, because they it's "Transformers 2." It's actually very intelligent, and different. People will not always appreciate something that is different, and goes against the norm.
If he didn't want them to be movies, respect his fucking request. Thats like your mother telling you shes going to make a movie about you. If you don't want it to made she should respect your wishes. but she says i helped make you even though your dad doesn't want the movie to be made.
That one commentator was stupidly smug when he said that "he didn't want people that weren't smart enough to appreciate comics to suddenly wake up and start enjoying them". Kind of an ironic, self-defeating elitism....
Alan moore is a Genius.. but he needs 2 step back and realize that another artist interpreting his work is obviously never going 2 b the same. he shouldn't b such an asshole if he already knows the outcome of his opinion. Plus i thought watchmen was an excellent piece of cinema, there wasn't second in that film where i didn't enjoy it. Lastly, what's with that douche bag Englishmen at the end of this... he's giving the english people a rep. ^_^ Peace and Luv.
alan moore is incredibly immature. he won't even give the movie a chance because he's so self centered. he acts like he did EVERYTHING on the book. dave gibbons and john higgins both saw it and liked it!
Zack Snyder made the best adaptation I have ever seen. Alan Moore takes him self way to serious. Watchmen was amazing, but it is just a book. The movie was great. That guy is full of shit.
Mark Kermode is a douche. Watchmen was really sensitive about action and was kinda rare. It really took the time to enfold the comic book on the silver screen. I think the movie was pure bliss and did justice to the source.
It couldn't be done better, Alan Moore is not a god, so everything can be turned into a movie when its done right by the people who do care for the source material.
I admit it would be terrible to see a successful story you have created being watered down and butchered by someone else, but I personally think he is a bit too nihilistic against the entire topic. Why not co-operating with the movie studies to ensure the quality of the film? Why not being a executive producer?
From hell was alright, leage of extraordinary gentleman just a popcorn flick, V for Vendetta rocked and Watchmen was just pure genious. It can work when the right people work on it.
The only "dig" at Repubs I can remember from the book was the idea of Nixon repealing the 2 term limit and remaining President for life. It was a rather mild and esoteric parody of popular belief that Repubs are manipulative totalitarians bent on world domination.
Anyway, to the subject. I will agree that many of Moore's works have been butchered by the movie industry. Many people's have, but I personally enjoyed Watchman and thought Snyder did a good job capturing the essences of the novel.
Holy hell I was about to say exact same thing, I hate Mark Kermode so goddamn much its unbelievable.
However, I don't remember any inane snipes at republicans enraging me in the comic. Care to remind me (out of curiosity, really)? That said I don't very much think I'd like to be around Alan Moore for an extended period of time.
Film did a damn fine job IMO, only gripe i had was having read the comic very recently beforehand, and knowing the plot, which is pretty unavoidable.
Mark Kermode is such an insufferable putz. If I'd known he was on this clip, I wouldn't have watched it - he's a tremendously pretentious idiot, and only occasionally gets his reviews right by random luck.
The Watchmen movie was not like the graphic book - the comic was filled with inane snipes at Republicans and the like. The movie was much better than Moore's own pretentious nonsense.
Although I think that alan moore is a great comic book writer. I'm getting a little bit fed up with his attitude towards film versions of his work. I thought that the film version of watchmen was awesome and he should be proud just like neil gaiman was with the film adaptation of his book coraline.
I read so much about this film before it arrived and the idea that squidy wasn't there made sense to me. Especially considering Snyder's explanation for it's deletion from the story... then BANG!! As I was watching and loving the film up to that part I realised that he has missed the point. We read comics because they are fantastic and I believe this is the one element Watchmen the film missed. It became too real and missed out on the fantastic. It was the WOW moment the film needed and missed.
The show is BBC's The Culture Show, and the reviewer is the excellent Mark Kermode, the presenter is the slightly annoying Lauren Laverne.
If you're not familiar with Kermode's work, I envy you, as he has a vast reportoire of fantastically accurate, acerbic, and substantive reviews up on youtube. Search for the 'kermodeandmayo' channel.
I'm not sure what it was. it was on quite late at night and i was just channel flicking which is why i missed the beginning. sorry, that is no help whatsoever is it!
It's OK, but I liked that the guy was being stern with the movie version (just because it was a welcome change of pace with from the other reviews I read). Wanted to know more of his opinions to see if he's just generally a sourpuss or if he had a real stake in seeing Watchmen treated well (can't please everyone, though).
Alan Moore can't just say no, he is the creater but he doesn't own the rights to the comics. The comic company owns all of the rights and can legally do whatever they want with them without asking him. That is why he is so pissed off.
i think that people have a hard time understanding that films are not comic books. because i hear people say that a lot, but people still complain about a movie not doing a comic book justice. of course it's not going to do it justice, books are books, movies are movies. they're not the same, so you can't do the same things with them. just look for the entertainment aspect of it, i enjoyed the watchmen movie, and i LOVE the comic. but i look at them seperately.
He's a huge admirer of the comic. He's saying he didn;t think the film was all that good because it was so busy emulating the look and tone of the comic that it left out a lot of the underlying themes.
I had maybe...one problem with the movie, and that was the poor telling of Rorchach's backstory. They completely left out his actual origin and thus his mask went totally unexplained. I think they attempted to tell the same/similar story ina different medium and so things like the freighter just don't work in movie setting. I would have put up with a longer film for them to fit more in, but I like the movie and think some fans need to grow up and stop being demanding twats.
what an ass. as if these directors and actors actively went about trying to fuck him over and ruin his work. these people did their best, and came out with some decent stuff at times.
in any case, he has to understand that movies are a COLLABORATIVE process. get over his god complex, off his ass, and collaborate if he wants it to be good!!
don't just sit around while they make your work and complain when it doesn't fit your vision!!!
have you seen the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Even if it was a terrible adaptation of the comic, it was a horrible film period.
I think Moore is a bit of a diva about this who Hollywood situation. But I can understand why he thinks his best works are unfilmable.
Watchmen kind of proved it. The film didn't have any of the subtext or psychological effect the comic had. It wasa good attempt, but because of the nature of film it couldn't do half of what the comic did for readers.
@tf2weekly he didn't say that. just that their toolsets are nonexclusi today i succeeded in rolling sushi to the size of a burrito. i'm now struggling with the ethical ramifications of revealing the secret of the "sushito" to the world. is it merely western excess meets eastern cuisine? can military conflict between mexico and japan be avoided while restaurant rights are negotiated? or perhaps this is the germination of 2012 consciousness evolution? lots to ponder...e.
dreadz2dreadz 2 weeks ago
Watchmen was unwatchable. Mark Kermode was right when he said it was all style and no substance. It was just all wrong in it's execution. From casting to the music used. Nothing worked that made this look anything more than another Hollywood abomination. Kudos for the integrity of Alan Moore for turning down what would have been a ton of cash and his desire to disassociate himself from these travesities of his COMIC BOOKS. Yes,he refers to them as comic book and not "graphic novels"
madahad9 2 weeks ago
I LIKED IT! GRRRRR.
Jesus shes fucking annoying.
BrianMagnumFilms 3 weeks ago
I seriously want to know what he thinks of watchmen. sadly, the only ones I read about are he refuses to watch the film. I really want to know what he thinks though =.=
jcudal32 2 months ago
To say comic books are the greatest art form is one of the most absurd thing any artist will hear. They would laugh in your face. Alan Moore is so pretentious.
tf2weekly 3 months ago
There is a good reason Alan Moore would have never made it as a screenwriter. The superfluous.
tf2weekly 3 months ago
Where's the Jonathan Ross interview pulled from? Anyone know?
smokingm0nkeys 3 months ago
There all good films but there just bad adaptations.
MrWiLDAPEMAN 4 months ago
Wonder what Alan thinks of the Watchmen film, how they have translated his story?
reasland 5 months ago
@Gunsmith42HACKERPRO And yet the film is so rigidly faithful to the book (in places) that it ceases to have any identity of its own. Every time Snyder simply recreated a tableau or series of panels from the book in his film, my only thought was "wow, I wish I was reading this instead of being forced to watch it right now."
And ironically, those moments were the only ones where the film almost worked.
togio100 5 months ago
I love that about him. He makes them real. You would have violent deaths. The heroes wouldnt be invincible.
VaanBeast226 5 months ago
Zack Snyder is a director who needs a punch in a face. Simple as that.
jdkjkjdkjdks 7 months ago
It may be a tad hyperbolic to say this, but I feel Moore has done for comics what Shakespeare did for theatre or what Welles did for film. Which, is take fertile medium to a level nobody thought possible. I certainly hold "Watchmen" with the same regard as "Hamlet" or "Citizen Kane".
Jkfilms7 7 months ago 2
Just noticed that Aphex Twin is the background music. Great Choice!!!
TagoMago7 7 months ago
'those people' what?
bert096 8 months ago
What's that woman doing outside the kitchen?
stfwho 8 months ago
@stfwho i don't like this woman, but you take you and your opinion to hell
LongJonBronze 8 months ago
@LongJonBronze what are you doing on youtube when you should be making a man a sammich?
stfwho 8 months ago
@stfwho ok, i don't know the point of this comment is but just so there's no confusion I'm a man
LongJonBronze 8 months ago
THAT BITCH AT THE END DOSENT KNOW WHAT THE FUCK SHES TALKING ABOUT
cactusjack67 8 months ago 3
@cactusjack67 More like the dude doesn't know what he's talking about.
TheCrimsonNutcase 4 months ago
@TheCrimsonNutcase how does he know what hes talking about ??? hes completely right Snyder shouldn't have made it, it was a good movie just a not a good watchmen movie
cactusjack67 4 months ago
@cactusjack67 Well that's just opinions. The fact that people bitch about films like Watchmen just proves the fact that fanboys will never be happy. The film was almost identical, visually and in feel. The only thing that was off was Ozymandias. The film that Snyder made was the best thing we could have got... you have read the other scripts right? People should be greatful with what we got.
TheCrimsonNutcase 3 months ago
I liked both the movie AND the book. I think they both offered their own pros and cons.
rockslideproductions 9 months ago 2
Northampton creates a genius.........i hate this place , maybe i should just embrace the shittiness, and greatness will come
skisunshine 10 months ago
i thought V was pretty good, wonder if he liked watchmen?, i've never read any of his stuff.........but he seems intelligent
user696969 10 months ago
@user696969 When you see this comment, go out to your local book store and pick up the Watchmen, its fantastic. I am not really a comic fan, but the watchmen is something everyone should read. Especially if you liked the film, which the book is a million times better then.
charlieJH401 10 months ago
The guy decrying style over substance hadn't considered his hair-do.
bobbygnosis 11 months ago 3
A good way to judge the mind set of Zack Snyder is to listen to him on a commentary track. Absolutely no thoughts on characters emotions or motivations. Just 'that was cgi, that shot is cgi, that looks cool and blah blah blah. He sure aint got much to say about the humnan condition .
Slackjaw69 11 months ago
I would give anything just to kiss his hand
spazmodicrapealarm 1 year ago
why did sell the rights to his comics to movie makers if he didn't want them made into movies? Still he is a good comic book author for all that's worth...
echster 1 year ago
@echster He didn't sell the rights, they were implicit, little do most artists especially in that era and of that age know, in the contracts you have to sign in order to actually get anything published and get paid for the work you want to do in a capitalist system. Not to mention, it is really hard to get anything anywhere without going through the corporate wealth interests, which is a very coercive dynamic, and not a matter of conscious or free choice.
NodrogTrax 1 year ago
bollocks he's patrick moore's nephew...
Chronosaur 1 year ago
zack synder is a box office minded hack, just a thrill seeker scarving off comic books
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kikokikomoyerre 1 year ago
7:44 .........Bitch...
HeatLegs 1 year ago 3
Fuckin sucks that he doesn't have the rights to his comics, otherwise these crappy adaptions of his comics wouldn't have been made. When I start my career as a comic creator, I'm gonna take careful precautions so that I keep the rights to my works and away from Hollywood's grubby, dirty little hands.
HeatLegs 1 year ago 4
Brilliant man.
FeelOfFriction 1 year ago
His rings... they make him look like he has talons xD
HelloThar9 1 year ago
Aphex Twin soundtrack
chairpersonmeow 1 year ago
Oh my God, I wanted to punch that bitch out at the end.
Jcolinsol 1 year ago 24
@Jcolinsol god yes, how was she going to finish that sentence? "obviously those people..."
papercutpictures 5 months ago
@Jcolinsol Nowt wrong with Lauren Laverne...she's pretty funny usually :P
ZachBobBob 3 weeks ago
lol oh ya I forgot that Jonathan Ross was a comic geek.
ValhallaAwaitsU 1 year ago
Am I the only person on Earth that thinks the "Watchmen" film was totally UNfaithful to the graphic novel? Yes, visually it fetishized the source material, but it made a number of what seem to be strategically placed alterations that undermined the meaning of the novel, much in the same way that Hollywood changed the meaning of the "Wizard of Oz" from its source material. Of course, I'm probably a more paranoid person than Alan Moore is so take that with a grain of salt. Hehe! TY 4 reading.
TheNameOfMyAccount 1 year ago 2
@TheNameOfMyAccount nope i got the same impression. The movie is a Shell ,it reassembles the original material, but its essence , the soul of the story if you will is not there. And i am not talking about the changing of the ending, no, its the tone of the scenes , the acting( from mediocre to disgusting), and the context which is totally left of. If you see the movie you can t figure what makes this characeters behave as they do. Only on the surface.
TheVetoSkreeemer 1 year ago 2
@TheNameOfMyAccount On the other hand the Graphic novel , or comiics provide you of elements to understand them, not completly , they are complex but to care for them. Znyder s direction was flat, he goes for long battle sequences, sfx, photography, he lacks pacing. Well the sad part of this is this wont be filmed again. Maybe it souldnt have beeen filmed at all. Be well.
TheVetoSkreeemer 1 year ago
Patrick Moore is Alan Moore's uncle?!
seanankerr 1 year ago
well alan moore is my top 3 writes besdies stan the man lee and warren alan moore jr ellis and i feel sorry about his movies from hell okay strike 1 lxg strike 2 because tom saywer wasnt in the gns and hollywood had put him in to play love internest v for vennda was the only good alan moore adpaton ever watchmen was good but the ending sucked for 2 reasons one doc manhanttan was the blamed and no giant squid strike 3 my boyyyyyyyyyyyy
antdaman1983 1 year ago
I've got a novel (zing!) idea: why don't they get David Lynch to direct the next Alan Moore adaptation and see who can out-mindfuck whom?
allthatisandeverwas 1 year ago 13
@allthatisandeverwas Or get Richard Linklater to rotoscope the whole thing a la Scanner Darkly, which condensed and beautifully represented the novel it was based on.
allthatisandeverwas 1 year ago
@allthatisandeverwas That sounds like a great idea
Yarnball82 2 months ago
He kind of unfairly represented the Watchmen movie by choosing that clip.
Watchmen was surprisingly good, and very faithful to the material. A damn sight better than any of the other Moore adaptations. Sure, the graphic novel is easily better, but the film didn't anger me!
ska2808 1 year ago
Wow so he really is Patrick Moore's nephew aka The Gamesmaster
octagon79 1 year ago
It's true. Those films didn't even come close to what they were as graphic novels. Although I don't blame the filmmakers for trying. Once you read something that beautiful, you'd want to share it with the world. Alan Moore is one of the rare artists capable of creating such rich narratives with surprising believability and depth. Now to be able to successfully translate that into the film medium, we'll need a filmmaker who's as good at his craft as Alan Moore is with his.
akosipuyat 1 year ago 4
Sorry to be a kill joy fellas, but I really believe that Watchmen deserved a more intelligent and adult realization. It wasn't a terrible movie by any means. But it is fundamentally un-Watchmen. Again, I didn't hate it, objectively speaking. But if you're going to spend $200 mil to make Watchmen, make the film of the decade. It really could have been something incredibly special, considering how right it got the two hardest characters: Rorschach and Dr. Manhattan.
TheNameOfMyAccount 1 year ago
I do however see that fact that hollywood has been over-run with ballbag movies such as Transformers 2 and is an over-used form of 'entertainment. Films can be the most beautiful forms of entertainment ever and not just jibberish.
I respect Alan Moore for his writing, it is incredibly clever but his philosophy on films as a whole has been blinded because his novels were visually realised in a way he saw inadequate. I love the Watchmen film (the ultimate cut most of all).
Rant over :)
Needham90 1 year ago
@Needham90 I think you're missing the forest for the trees here. He wasn't dissing filmmaking in general, he was dissing mainstream filmmaking aggressively adapting certain novels that weren't designed to be films but shouldn't be films. Watchmen movie is done and you love it so why bother making this rant? It's like you guys are trying to twist his arm into your liking & if so then that's disturbing.
Diakron79 9 months ago
To say movies spoon-feed what all books contain is not true any way. Take films such as The Assassination of Jesse James by the Coward Robert Ford (another film based on a book). That film is visual poetry and was absolutely beautiful to watch. What Alan Moore needs to do is realise that not all films are spoon-feeding trash like he says and also that graphic novels do exactly the same to books. Some stories are best written, some graphically and some visually, even both written and visualised.
Needham90 1 year ago
@Needham90
(Also, The Assassination of Jesse James is not just visually stunning, it is also one of the most poetic, most brilliantly acted, beautifully written films of this decade - if not the best)
Needham90 1 year ago
If I can be brutally honest for just one moment. Alan Moore states that films 'spoon-feed' what graphic novels and books contain. That can also be stated for Graphic novels on books. I mean Take Watchmen for instance, the only descriptive writing came from Rorschach al the rest came from Dave Gibbons' drawings. Comparing Rorschach's descriptions to the descriptions in The Road you can instantly see that graphic novels spoon-feed descriptive writing through visions.
Needham90 1 year ago
@Needham90 Not quite, comics are a different art form, thay are not books , and not paintings or drawings, but a blend or mix of both. So most of the artwork with no captions or balloons on a comic book has a story a plot behind it. What i share of what you say is that the arts , all of them feed upon each other, and the culture on which they are created, thay have a common nuclueous. Be well
TheVetoSkreeemer 1 year ago 3
What did Alan say at 4:49?
Knockwoody 1 year ago
i am glad gilliham and greengrass (ooh if i wobble the camera constantly it makes it look like its real) never made this film. I think the film was pretty good especially when you think how bad it could have been.
firekind1980 1 year ago
I am a movie lover and i really think that they need to STOP making Alan Moore's comic's into movies.
coolarman 1 year ago
Dude, he has a big head! Its probably because he has such a big brain.
cheeseleader09 1 year ago
if alan moore doesn't like his book being movies why sell the rights to it ?
and two words
buzz
cut
lol
SNB222 1 year ago
The lady at the end doesn't seem very bright...
-_-"
JokerishDish 1 year ago
I loved the end of this cause the lady's all, "OOOOOOH, but it looks like FUN!! teehee!" And the guy's thinking, "Dammit woman, you don't understand! Zach Snyder shouldn't be doing this!!"
loiuse44 1 year ago 3
Alan Moore is one of the best minds of the past century. I wish people didn't give him so much shit for his disapproving of movie adaptations/ his religion/ his beard.
josswhedon692 1 year ago 3
@josswhedon692 That's because they're thugs & losers w/ no will, moral, creativity, or talent. Hence the fan-fics.
Diakron79 9 months ago
Alan Moore is king!
MyMelancholyDodo 1 year ago
Alan Moore is the William Blake of our time. Love them both!!!!!!!!!! Keep rocking in the free world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
PeterRoeder31 1 year ago 12
I read V for Vendetta and it was great!Then I watched the movie.......it was waaay off. I looked for his name in the credits and didnt see it. I understand why he has made that choice to remove his name and refuse the money.
I was thinking about other comic movies and they all are off too.
Fuck Hollywood.
davidsquall351 2 years ago 5
Up Northampton! My fucking birthplace!
FreakBoi2008 2 years ago
now that was the first time I saw alan moore and I have to say maaaaaaan he looks just.......
I mean you dont think hes in a satanicgroup or something right?
55batmanandjoker 2 years ago
@55batmanandjoker
no, he worships Glycon (a snake god)- although he admits he doesn't actually believe in the existence of Glycon, he simply follows the idea of the god... he's an odd fellow.
FreakBoi2008 2 years ago
Y do peple bitch about long movies i get annoyed when a movie i pay to see is only and hour and a half or two hours long
aloster101 2 years ago
alan moore is the man numo uno stan lee
numbo two and warren ellis numbo tres
the best was vfv
antdaman1983 2 years ago
just like batman he is the greast writer of
all time and he was right from hell ehhh lxg stuck because of tom sawyer v for vendda good and watchmen good but the ending wasn't great to the graphic novel you should read the book twice to see what's going on
antdaman1983 2 years ago
1:47 = super creepy
Policestate2000 2 years ago
britanic accent get on my nerve a lots lolll
aoy.... not aoy loll ' i ' ... i hate brit accent lolll its like french from france and french fro canada loll you see my point loll
GHOSTTOYS 2 years ago
Britanic? BRITANIC? You get the name of the nationality wrong, yet still think you're allowed to pass comment on the accents? And yes, that's right, accents - the plural. There's more than one BRITISH accent.
Also, pronounce the letter "i" correctly. Go on. And chances are, by the standards of thousands of others, you've pronounced it wrong. It can be pronounced "ay", "eye", "ah" or your maligned "aoy".
In short, I'm grouchy and you're a pillock.
lordhaku 1 year ago 3
@lordhaku well you might be rigth because i am from canada and speak french loll so i find it funny loll but stil in hannah spearit mouth it sound like sugar
loll and personaly she is the most perfect girl hever any ways anyways the fact is that english and french from the old country is so nice loll compare to the american and canadian one loll
GHOSTTOYS 1 year ago
Wasn't aware you're not a native English speaker. Apologies - I was just feeling, as I said, a bit grouchy at the time, and am the sort of fanboy who will always rush to the defence of Alan Moore.
lordhaku 1 year ago
@lordhaku hey no prob dude i love allan moore lolll hehehe
GHOSTTOYS 1 year ago
@GHOSTTOYS are you trying to over use the term lol? (which means laughing out loud if you dont know)
amartinez97 1 year ago
@amartinez97 ok i just learn something here ... because in french it does mean something else and for (lol)whe use (mdr) mort de rire ....anyways thanks for that take care
GHOSTTOYS 1 year ago
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ElegeantFencer 1 year ago
watchmen is unfilmable, but the movie was a decent attempt. it did have awesome opening credits
maxrutc09 2 years ago 2
Absolutely. I love the opening credits. It was slow paced but it set the mood right. Plus the song by Bob Dylan fits the theme perfectly. I actually think Watchmen is the best comic book adaptation of Alan Moore so far. Although the movie cut down a few pieces from the source material but in the end, I think it turned out quite alright.
krisfrosz133 2 years ago 4
the bulk of the movie was ok.. but the ending? the totally changed it and therefore changed everything, they changed so many key parts of the story. it might be the best adaptation thus far but thats not saying much. it was far from the graphic novel.
Seawaffle2021 2 years ago
I too think that in Watchmen the director actually respected Alan Moore's work enough to leave it unchanged as much as possible in a major cinematic production. The end was a compromise which was weaker then the original, but at least it didn't water down on the central premises.
Unlike the movie adaptation of V. In which the directors just weren't able to share Moore's very intelligent analysis of fascism and the mechanisms that make it work. So they just added a silly conspiracy.
profane1972 2 years ago
@profane1972 he may have respected alan's work, but he clearly didn't respect alan, himself, because if he did, he wouldn't have stopped production when alan said tried to stop them from making the movie at all.
FreakBoi2008 2 years ago
It was fine.. until the ending... night owl! What happened to you?
seansalvador1 2 years ago
Ugh, I wish I never saw the Watchmen movie...I really wish Fox won the lawsuit...I mean I say it opening day, and I came home, and flipped through the comic book, only to find that Zack did the unthinkable.
He actually SOILED the book. It was a good month or two before I could feel good about it again. =[
drunkdonutboy 2 years ago
National treasure, Lauren? He's a world treasure...
allaboutdmagic 2 years ago
Sasquatch sighting! he writes comic books!
uthetube09 2 years ago
I honestly think that Moore's work shouldn't be made into movies. I thought that Watchmen was a good movie, but only because I made a good decision to read the book first then see the movie. Mainstream audiences don't understand how good Moore's work is because they're too desensitized by violence(why Watchmen was panned by some people) or they have little to no imagination(why LGX was an awful idea from the start)
BLACKMAGICMETALMAN12 2 years ago 4
yeah this argument is void... I went to see this without knowing anything about it before other than that it was a comic-book adaption... and it's still my favorite movie of the year
strappinggermanlad 2 years ago
Yeah, I didn't meet many people who liked the movie that much. Who read the comic or anything you know. They complained, mostly, about Dr. Manhattan's dick, and how long the movie is. Which I agree with the length, the dick part, I really couldn't care less about. But honestly, I still think they didn't get the movie perfect, and they just rushed it out to coincide with the success over the Dark Knight.
BLACKMAGICMETALMAN12 2 years ago
last part could be kinda true... still the best movie in recent years to me (even though DK was more polished, and I love that movie as well)
strappinggermanlad 2 years ago
Yeah, I've never met anybody who hated the Dark Knight. Like, I saw people dress up as the Joker, who never would in a Billion years.
BLACKMAGICMETALMAN12 2 years ago
Well I feel a bit like Neil Gaiman in regards to 'The Dark Knight' when he commented that he enjoyed
Heath Ledger's Joker but he also wished that it could have been "a shorter sharper and smarter film"
cha5 2 years ago
i read the comic when it came out and when i heard that a watchmen movie came out i was really thinking it was gonna blow but i have to say it was good
mute754 2 years ago
Everybody here who is defending the films either didn't read the book or missed all of the deeper levels of the books that didn't translate to film.
TheAxel999 2 years ago
A film can only offer so much
I actually liked the film
But I wasn't expecting it to be like reading the novel
Edward306 2 years ago
There was little emphasis on religon, and he idea of a god in the movie, which I found in almost every scene with Dr. Manhattan in the book.
The movie should've tried to at least speak about these deeper leavels of thought, rather than make the book seem like a simple murder mystery.
symboitesRul3 2 years ago
watchmen movie was a crap covered in hair.
the0last0thing 2 years ago
Hey i like V for Vendetta lol
crispybacon100 2 years ago
Yeah I liked it too lol but that's probably because I haven't read the comic yet.
Red23791 2 years ago
I mean don't get me wrong I totally understand Alan Moores point and I feel sorry for him in a way, but I really think that the host in the end of the video is a real idiot... I am a huge movie fan, I love good movies, deep movies, that make me think...Watchmen wasn't the most groundbreaking but It made me think, I think it was a really good movie and Zack Snyder made it incredibly well IMO. And considering that that host is giving up his opinion BEFORE the movies was released is driving me nuts
parizak 2 years ago 2
allow me to disagree, I totally agreed with the host. It doesn't do the book justice and no film can.
TheAxel999 2 years ago
If the Bearnies had been in it then, maybe, the film's narrative would have had more meaning. This could have been done in the director's cut or better yet they could've taken out the horrible scene where Nite Owl and Laurie are breaking Rorschach out of prison and Nite Owl beats up like fifty people! That scene was way too long.
hazelWSD 2 years ago
though Zack Zynder is a bad director so he can critisized
rehanabey 2 years ago
however he shouldnt been too harsh to say he will be spitting venom at the film and the director very harsh to some one who seems to worship you even if he is naive and stupid.
rehanabey 2 years ago
Alan Moore shoudn't be too harsh, he sees Zack Zynder as some evil money grabbing idea coporate exploiter, when he is just a stupid exited fan. Watchmen did not work and couldn't of worked as a film it was far too long yet the plot parts at the same time felt compressed, the themes could not be adapted in as well as any other literature techniques,
rehanabey 2 years ago
The movie wasn't THAT bad. Infact, it was brilliant. But it pales in comparison to the novel, and their are very movies out their right now that don't.
Cocarat206 2 years ago
I feel sorry for Alan Moore, but I loved the Watchmen film. I think Alan Moore needs to realise that NO adaption out there is 100% perfect, they can never be.
But in my personal opinion, I thought Watchmen atm is the best comic adaption out there, and one of the greatest films I've seen.
MrGre3n66 2 years ago 14
@MrGre3n66 to me its one of the best movies of the decade very underappreciated better then avatar definitly
fixitluis 1 year ago 2
@MrGre3n66 I couldnt agree more. This is the thing. You cannot adapt ANY book/novel 100%. Reason being, everyone has a different experience when reading something for the 1st time.
Watchmen is by far, the best comic to film adaptation Ive ever seen. It literally is scene for scene.
jamesthemod 1 year ago
@MrGre3n66
It doesn't have to be 100% perfect but it would greatly help if they can keep faithful to the original piece as much as possible. I mean, why bother adapting a fine graphic novel if you're going to change/remove key elements?
L0rdFlashheart 1 year ago
@MrGre3n66 You gotta give him credit for sticking to his ideals though. Most people, offered the amount of money they offered him, would've have broke and taken and started spewing out comics for the soul purpose to be turned into a movie. Like he said in another interview, comics have become more of story boards for Hollywood than a different medium for amazing story telling and literature.
vigil 1 year ago
@MrGre3n66 Not only is it a vapid translation of the comic, but it is an utterly stupid and infantile movie on its own. If you think that it in any way accurately represents any meaningful aspect of the original material, you do not understand or appreciate the original material.
NodrogTrax 1 year ago
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@MrGre3n66 you need to watch movie films mate, watchmen was terrible
MrE5785 11 months ago
Snyder did a good job considering how impossible it was to even make Watchmen into a movie. The portrayal of Dr. Manhattan was damn near perfect for cinema (non-linear time) and I thought that would be the first screw up. I still think he screwed up Rorschach and the S.Q.U.I.D. scene.
DodgerRiley 2 years ago
He did it horribly. Just as larsreal9 said, Zack Snyder is horrible with plot. He's really good at making a visually impacting movie, as well as doing action, but unless he has a co director, I don't think we'll see an impacting plot from him unless it's from a different writer which he goes as far as he can to try and duplicate, simular to what he did with watchmen.
Lib3r4t3 2 years ago
I think Snyder did make the plot interesting, but I was glad that he focused less on plot, and more on creating a visceral experience of sound, visual, and imagery. Which added some emotional weight to the film, and actually manage to capture some of the depth of the graphic.
Transformers217 2 years ago
The worst part of him taking up watchmen, being an action director more than anything, is that he changed the original book of being a great psychological impactor of a book, to an action thriller. He cut scenes of the plot for more action and money shots.
You might be more correct in saying "Snyder did a good job on considering he is Snyder."
Lib3r4t3 2 years ago 2
Yeah, you definitely hit the nail on the head.
DodgerRiley 2 years ago
Fact is Zack Snyder's a god-awful storyteller, it was obvious from the turd known as 300. And yeah, DOTD (remake) was okay but just barely imo. Zack's good with visuals, which is what made the Rorschach's story and Dr Manhattan's so cool.
larsreal9 2 years ago
But have you read 300? Its kinda a turd if you ask me...
Cocarat206 2 years ago
Seriously, man, I didn't, but I'm not that huge into Miller. I loved Dark Knight Returns and Year One and one of the Sin Cities but I'm not that into him, I'm glad too, because that dude has gone apeshit insane, read All Star Batman and Robin. haha
larsreal9 2 years ago
Watchmen when it came out back in 1986-1987 changed my life along with my understanding of what the comicbook could achieve as an artform and literature.
I've seen lots of films read lots of comics since then but nothing has really impacted me the way Watchmen did.
cha5 2 years ago
alan moore is by far my favorite comic writer. V and watchmen were the best things i ever read
Fredzo28 2 years ago 2
Zack Snyder make good entertainment movies.
Indeed, good enough for the common lot that have a low IQ and not enough imagination to sit still and enjoy literature, but rather enjoy special effects and redundant dialogue.
comicfan88 2 years ago
That is not to say that I do not accept adaptations, Kurosawa and Kubrick did excellent works from literary sources to name some good directors.
I do not like movies that go for effects and crete an impression on teenagers, rather than an aesthetics or at least be similar in regard to content (philosophically, satire, religious, etc.) to the original work.
Still I must admit that Alan Moore is too close-minded regarding cinema.
comicfan88 2 years ago
That's why the comic lot couldn't enjoy Snyder's vision. He actually created an intelligent, sophisticated, and philosophical superhero film that defies all expectations. He stayed faithful to Moore's book, and created his best film to date. And many people will not appreciate it now, because they it's "Transformers 2." It's actually very intelligent, and different. People will not always appreciate something that is different, and goes against the norm.
Transformers217 2 years ago
If he didn't want them to be movies, respect his fucking request. Thats like your mother telling you shes going to make a movie about you. If you don't want it to made she should respect your wishes. but she says i helped make you even though your dad doesn't want the movie to be made.
youngace187 2 years ago
That one commentator was stupidly smug when he said that "he didn't want people that weren't smart enough to appreciate comics to suddenly wake up and start enjoying them". Kind of an ironic, self-defeating elitism....
OrmEmber 2 years ago
i thought the same thing
lingojac 2 years ago
He does have a point though. lol
Transformers217 2 years ago
Alan moore is a Genius.. but he needs 2 step back and realize that another artist interpreting his work is obviously never going 2 b the same. he shouldn't b such an asshole if he already knows the outcome of his opinion. Plus i thought watchmen was an excellent piece of cinema, there wasn't second in that film where i didn't enjoy it. Lastly, what's with that douche bag Englishmen at the end of this... he's giving the english people a rep. ^_^ Peace and Luv.
Kachanjour 2 years ago 2
I agree. To me, he's a genius. But an ignorant genius. ;)
Transformers217 2 years ago
alan moore is incredibly immature. he won't even give the movie a chance because he's so self centered. he acts like he did EVERYTHING on the book. dave gibbons and john higgins both saw it and liked it!
TubedUp909Part3 2 years ago
I thought the movie was excellent. It defied expectations, and Snyder is truly growing as a filmmaker. :)
Transformers217 2 years ago
Zack Snyder made the best adaptation I have ever seen. Alan Moore takes him self way to serious. Watchmen was amazing, but it is just a book. The movie was great. That guy is full of shit.
swingline180 2 years ago 5
What the hell is that stuff on his fingers?
flipdirector 2 years ago
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bobbymendez 2 years ago
Oh, and by the way,
Mark Kermode is a douche. Watchmen was really sensitive about action and was kinda rare. It really took the time to enfold the comic book on the silver screen. I think the movie was pure bliss and did justice to the source.
It couldn't be done better, Alan Moore is not a god, so everything can be turned into a movie when its done right by the people who do care for the source material.
Movie of the year 2009, IMO.
Anophathalm 2 years ago
I admit it would be terrible to see a successful story you have created being watered down and butchered by someone else, but I personally think he is a bit too nihilistic against the entire topic. Why not co-operating with the movie studies to ensure the quality of the film? Why not being a executive producer?
From hell was alright, leage of extraordinary gentleman just a popcorn flick, V for Vendetta rocked and Watchmen was just pure genious. It can work when the right people work on it.
Anophathalm 2 years ago
The only "dig" at Repubs I can remember from the book was the idea of Nixon repealing the 2 term limit and remaining President for life. It was a rather mild and esoteric parody of popular belief that Repubs are manipulative totalitarians bent on world domination.
Anyway, to the subject. I will agree that many of Moore's works have been butchered by the movie industry. Many people's have, but I personally enjoyed Watchman and thought Snyder did a good job capturing the essences of the novel.
z7zyn 2 years ago
Holy hell I was about to say exact same thing, I hate Mark Kermode so goddamn much its unbelievable.
However, I don't remember any inane snipes at republicans enraging me in the comic. Care to remind me (out of curiosity, really)? That said I don't very much think I'd like to be around Alan Moore for an extended period of time.
Film did a damn fine job IMO, only gripe i had was having read the comic very recently beforehand, and knowing the plot, which is pretty unavoidable.
CyberDeadly 2 years ago
Oh Lord.
Mark Kermode is such an insufferable putz. If I'd known he was on this clip, I wouldn't have watched it - he's a tremendously pretentious idiot, and only occasionally gets his reviews right by random luck.
The Watchmen movie was not like the graphic book - the comic was filled with inane snipes at Republicans and the like. The movie was much better than Moore's own pretentious nonsense.
Oh I'm so bloody sick of these "art" people.
DrCruel 2 years ago
Although I think that alan moore is a great comic book writer. I'm getting a little bit fed up with his attitude towards film versions of his work. I thought that the film version of watchmen was awesome and he should be proud just like neil gaiman was with the film adaptation of his book coraline.
pixargod 2 years ago
I read so much about this film before it arrived and the idea that squidy wasn't there made sense to me. Especially considering Snyder's explanation for it's deletion from the story... then BANG!! As I was watching and loving the film up to that part I realised that he has missed the point. We read comics because they are fantastic and I believe this is the one element Watchmen the film missed. It became too real and missed out on the fantastic. It was the WOW moment the film needed and missed.
gerantgerant 2 years ago
that last guy's comment on watchmen was spot-on, exactly what i was thinking.
the movie's got style, but no substance
fqwgads 2 years ago
sure... but what do you expect from a 3 hour movie?
dzfz2100 2 years ago
The show is BBC's The Culture Show, and the reviewer is the excellent Mark Kermode, the presenter is the slightly annoying Lauren Laverne.
If you're not familiar with Kermode's work, I envy you, as he has a vast reportoire of fantastically accurate, acerbic, and substantive reviews up on youtube. Search for the 'kermodeandmayo' channel.
flim86 2 years ago
What show was this featured on and who were the two chatting at the end? I'm assuming it's not a production of Heyuguys :)
nutherefurlong 2 years ago
you'd assume right! :)
I'm not sure what it was. it was on quite late at night and i was just channel flicking which is why i missed the beginning. sorry, that is no help whatsoever is it!
heyuguysblog 2 years ago
It's OK, but I liked that the guy was being stern with the movie version (just because it was a welcome change of pace with from the other reviews I read). Wanted to know more of his opinions to see if he's just generally a sourpuss or if he had a real stake in seeing Watchmen treated well (can't please everyone, though).
nutherefurlong 2 years ago
It's up to him whether he wants to release his material to film. Alan, you can always say no.
studiosguignol 2 years ago
he doesnt own it
phdecora 2 years ago 4
Alan Moore can't just say no, he is the creater but he doesn't own the rights to the comics. The comic company owns all of the rights and can legally do whatever they want with them without asking him. That is why he is so pissed off.
yody94 2 years ago 8
I can certainly agree with the end comments on the Watchmen film, I didn't see it simply because Zach Synder is all flash and no substance.
Crashtest517 2 years ago
i think that people have a hard time understanding that films are not comic books. because i hear people say that a lot, but people still complain about a movie not doing a comic book justice. of course it's not going to do it justice, books are books, movies are movies. they're not the same, so you can't do the same things with them. just look for the entertainment aspect of it, i enjoyed the watchmen movie, and i LOVE the comic. but i look at them seperately.
saxamaphone729 2 years ago 3
The stroke off with the wanna-be elvis hair-do is a shallow fool ...
"nothing" behind the watchmen!?
Do you know ANYTHING about philosophy?
earthheavenharmonics 2 years ago 3
what are you talking about?
He's a huge admirer of the comic. He's saying he didn;t think the film was all that good because it was so busy emulating the look and tone of the comic that it left out a lot of the underlying themes.
togio100 2 years ago
'Closet megalomaniac'
I like that... yet more wisdom from the mouth of Alan Moore
hansvalen 2 years ago
I had maybe...one problem with the movie, and that was the poor telling of Rorchach's backstory. They completely left out his actual origin and thus his mask went totally unexplained. I think they attempted to tell the same/similar story ina different medium and so things like the freighter just don't work in movie setting. I would have put up with a longer film for them to fit more in, but I like the movie and think some fans need to grow up and stop being demanding twats.
moonlitesymphony 2 years ago
what a bunch of rusty dildos...stop watching the shitty blockbuster pap that dribbles out of hollywoods cavernous ass and go read a comic
carrom24 2 years ago
what an ass. as if these directors and actors actively went about trying to fuck him over and ruin his work. these people did their best, and came out with some decent stuff at times.
in any case, he has to understand that movies are a COLLABORATIVE process. get over his god complex, off his ass, and collaborate if he wants it to be good!!
don't just sit around while they make your work and complain when it doesn't fit your vision!!!
drunkiguana 2 years ago
have you seen the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen? Even if it was a terrible adaptation of the comic, it was a horrible film period.
I think Moore is a bit of a diva about this who Hollywood situation. But I can understand why he thinks his best works are unfilmable.
Watchmen kind of proved it. The film didn't have any of the subtext or psychological effect the comic had. It wasa good attempt, but because of the nature of film it couldn't do half of what the comic did for readers.
togio100 2 years ago