horrible documentary, / apply the same rationale with the Nazi's regiment of concentration camps,basically the same thing, its just the difference in the death scale and the groups targeted. Lastly think about the soldiers environment, they are miles away from home, they just got out high school and are drafted away to fight for an idea that their government is imposing to another country. How can they rebel or refuse when the military at that time had much power enough to control their actions
Real men stand by the Consititution and resist the elite bankers and sleazy mega control-freaks whether they stand behind the Democrats, Republicans, Nazis, Progressives or Communists. We are all given free will and the duty to develop our character, our bravery.
The idea was to wipe out the communists, it was found out later they attacked the wrong village and only 3 communists lived there. Not even active communists. And Americans wonder why they get slated.
Calley is innocent , I intervied a sergent that had been with his squad shortly after he was charged. It was procdedure that if the squad went out, they were going to
kill somebody. Calley had a choice he could wind up dead with the Vietnams in
ditch or come back with the squad. He had no other choice.Wars are not won by
giving your life for your country, they are won by getting some other dam fool
to give his life for his country. Calley did the right thing
They systematically destroyed any village and killed all people - including babies for "humanitarian reasons" because they could not leave them alone among the death families. This was the result of a US anti-Vietnam war verteran conference I saw in a 16mm film where blood young veterans under tears tried to explain how military leaders (against official rules) psychologically tricked the young newcomers to be prepared for such killings.
@lovelyigorilla your a fucking moron thats a disgrace to humanity. If you have no compassion for innocent human life, you dont belong in this planet. Women and children tortured & killed and you think they deserve it? And by you using the word cook shows that your probably an uneducated redneck hillbilly trailer trash thats racist like your parents
@envanje You are a fucking idiot.A whole village was slaughtered, there were no men at all of fighting age, babies were killed, adolescent girls were raped and killed, animals were killed, homes were burned, half a thousand innocent villagers died that day, for no reason, how dare you relate that to collateral damage. Also the situation in Afghnaistan is exactly the same, people aren't less sensitive now, the American government and dicks like you have some illusion that they are doing good.
@envanje you're probably a redneck hillbilly trailer trash with that mentality of yours. I feel sorry for uneducated fuckheads like you who has no compassion for human life.
@FullBloodedHmoob Americans don't hate asians, I'm sure some do, but that 0.01% that do don't make up the entire country's population. That is a gross overgenrelisation. Also this had nothing to do with racism for asians. This was caused because these men were confused, scared, depressed and angry, they had been tormented by an unseen enemy, their commanders ordered them to kill everybody in that village and that is what they did. I am in no way trying to justify this massacre.
@PrivateJoker17 U are trying to justify this massacre with all the above excuses. Ya, ya. They are so sacred of little kids that they need to fire a few rounds into their bodies to make sure they are dead. They are so depressed that their penises could still erect to rape the girls. They are obviously enjoying themselves. That Calley even made sure that little boy that tried to run away from the ditch was shot so that he could not testify against them.
@awc321 They weren't enjoying themselves you ignorant dick, you have no fucking idea. I was in no way trying to justify it. You have no fucking idea though.
@PrivateJoker17 I am not a dick; I'm not obsessed with sex; I don't rape. I have better idea waht happened than you thought because I read the description of how they did it. Some tried to shoot a baby, he missed, he laughed and tried again. They were fucking enjoying it: they were fucking some of the girls they caught.
@PrivateJoker17 So u claimed. Then I am really appalled that u did not come across the description on how the execution was carried out. How Calley shot a boy who struggled out of a ditch. Maybe u chose to ignore it.
@awc321 I know all of it, I have read, heard amnd discovered every horrifying detail. But you can't judge all of theose men, most were only seventeen to twenty years old. They had been continuosly attacked by an unseen enemy. Their friends were killed over and over again and they were confused as to how this was happening. They had received orders to kill everybody in that village no matter who they were. A lot of them chose not to do it. A lot of them had been threatened with death if they didn
@PrivateJoker17 What a joke and bloody excuse ! They are threatened with dead if they did not obey orders ?! U made the US army sound like a dictator's army. Don't forget u are a democracy. U want to argue that the US military order the soldiers to rape women? The soldiers are so fightened and confused that they threw aside their weapons and took off their pants to rape ? They are seriously threatened by a child that they need to kill him when he was running away from them ? Oh, come on.
@awc321 I am not talking about every soldier, these crimes can never be justified, but not all of these people commited the acts you are speaking of. Also (don't think of this as an excuse) those soldiers at the time did not consider the Vietnamese people to be people and thus didn't treat them as such. War does this to a person's mind, if you have not expereienced it, you will never know.
@PrivateJoker17 war doesn't cause any of the atrocities that was described in the my lai massacre. Thats all inhuman no matter where you've been . They deserve to die for what they did period.
@awc321 cont, didn't carry it out, most of the ones who did, did so while suffering and once they'd killed once, their minds shut down and their bodies continued commiting these atrocoties. A lot killed some people because they had been threatened if they wouldn't do so. They killed these people while crying. All of the people who did carry out this horrific crime have now either commited suicide or are still suffering to an extreme extent after what they have done.
@PrivateJoker17 A lot of people who committed the crimes are never punished. Calley apologised and he expected to be paid $10000 to be interviewed by the press.
@awc321 I do believe Calley and some others deserved a much larger punishment. No less than life in prison. Calley ended up being a scapegoat the army could blame though and he did not receive what he deserved.
@PrivateJoker17 I don't believe those guys were forced to carry out orders. Ever since when US troops so obedient. I don't think he was a scape goat. Neither did they accidentally kill the children. The kids they killed posed not threat to them. They did to vent their hatred. Hersh described a scene where after the rampage, the soldiers were eating besides a ditch and a kid managed to survive and crawl out of the ditch. In cold blood, Calley shot him. To silence him, maybe.
@awc321 You simply can't understand what I am trying to say to you. Also men like Calley did threaten soldiers with death if they did not kill those villagers. The acts you are describing are true. Most of these men however were good people. I will reiterate, war does this to the mind and you have no idea unless you have experienced it.
@awc321 Also it was never a matter of silencing people, they weren't trying to cover up what they did; and another thing it is widely believed by many people that Calley was indeed a scapegoat. I never said they accidentally killed the children. You are trying to shock me with factst I am already aware of and I never said to you that this massacre was right, could be justified or should be forgiven. You don't however understand what I am trying to say.
@PrivateJoker17 I do. U don't understand me.I was talking about silencing the little boy who ran out of the ditch, not the rest. Tell me then, why didn't Calley let him off ? I never accused you of saying the massacre was right. I am just saying they are not just forced to carry out orders to massacre the village as u believed.
@awc321 The boy wasn't killed to silence him, they had killed half a thousand people already, the boy meant nothing to Calley. Also Calley was the only person out of everyone involved who got any sort of punishment whatsoever. Lastly they were ordered to kill everybody in that village. Look further into this.
@PrivateJoker17 Then why did he kill the boy then ? Obeying orders ? Ever since when they were so obedient. I seriously doubt US military would give such order although they would definitely turn a blind eye if they did kill innocents.
@awc321 First of all you need to work on your english skills. Why did he kill the other hundred people he killed, do you really have to ask why he killed that boy? Also the order was given, look it up.
@PrivateJoker17 Not at all. The US military would not be so stupid to give such an order that would incriminate them in the end. Anyway, C company was indeed so enthusiastic to obey such an order to the letter.
@awc321 Cont, I'm sorry I'm too tired at the moment to really express what I want to, I'll continue the conversation when I'm more awakem, but I suggest you watch some of the interviews in 'Four Hours In My Lai' and read up on the people who carried out this massacre before claiming that they enjoyed themselves.
@PrivateJoker17 I did. I read how they mutilated the dead, cutting open a pregnant woman to take out an unborn baby, cutting off genitals of the dead as trophies.
@BlackLabelForLife Peterjoker was 'condemning' envajie for something envajie never did: justufying the massacre using the term 'collateral damage'. U r teh one who should re-read all comments. In any case, neither did I accuse Peterjoker of justifying the massacre. I claimed that he was finding excuses that were not backed by facts for the actions of Charlie coy. In fact, what seymour hersh described in his book pointed to many sadistic men in Charlie coy.
A war against guerillas/insurgents is all but impossible to win. It is frustrating and heartbraking for those involved, and can all too easily lead to this type of criminal attrociity.
Its good to see the US learned its lesson after Vietnam tho........
@andrew12494 GOD!! 'Retarded?'!! They are not fuckin 'Retarded'. The retard is the kid who lives down the road playing with his dick in front of his sister! They are FUCKIN' MONSTERS!
US atrocities in Vietnam war? Study the "My Lai Massacre".
'He fired at it [the baby] with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.'
"Peers Inquiry: Report of the Department of the Army Review of the Preliminary Investigations into the My Lai Incident".
Vietnam vets deserve NO respect, also google "William Calley" convicted US war criminal
horrible documentary, / apply the same rationale with the Nazi's regiment of concentration camps,basically the same thing, its just the difference in the death scale and the groups targeted. Lastly think about the soldiers environment, they are miles away from home, they just got out high school and are drafted away to fight for an idea that their government is imposing to another country. How can they rebel or refuse when the military at that time had much power enough to control their actions
ttfnist 3 weeks ago
Real men stand by the Consititution and resist the elite bankers and sleazy mega control-freaks whether they stand behind the Democrats, Republicans, Nazis, Progressives or Communists. We are all given free will and the duty to develop our character, our bravery.
pkpapers 1 month ago
The idea was to wipe out the communists, it was found out later they attacked the wrong village and only 3 communists lived there. Not even active communists. And Americans wonder why they get slated.
Sophieehelen5 1 month ago
If i ever see William calley in my lifetime i will kill him for his crimes against humanatity.
Tyrik73 3 months ago
@Tyrik73 He lives about an hour away from my house, if ever see him ill spit in his face.
THEBURNINGTIGERS 2 months ago
Bad lidership on part of the stupid officers!
GUALLACOL 3 months ago
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Calley is innocent , I intervied a sergent that had been with his squad shortly after he was charged. It was procdedure that if the squad went out, they were going to
kill somebody. Calley had a choice he could wind up dead with the Vietnams in
ditch or come back with the squad. He had no other choice.Wars are not won by
giving your life for your country, they are won by getting some other dam fool
to give his life for his country. Calley did the right thing
af17463368 5 months ago
9/11 was a lovely response.LOL.
dparr100 5 months ago
My Lai was no accident ! The opposite was right !
They systematically destroyed any village and killed all people - including babies for "humanitarian reasons" because they could not leave them alone among the death families. This was the result of a US anti-Vietnam war verteran conference I saw in a 16mm film where blood young veterans under tears tried to explain how military leaders (against official rules) psychologically tricked the young newcomers to be prepared for such killings.
edgar0001 7 months ago
bunch leftist hippies need to shut the fuck up....
jwdude51 7 months ago
@jwdude51 Bunch of dumbass rednecks need to get an education...
Seita1223 7 months ago
American people are weak through apathy. They deserve what is coming to them next.
diramonsky 7 months ago
was this wrong? yes. however, is this a part of war throughout history? yes. too bad, that's what goes on in war.
DiveBum18 8 months ago
you guys came to our country massacred our innocent people and still don't want to admit it... What kind of man are u people??
easterndragon9x 9 months ago 2
Big soldiers YEH,dont listen to all the shite,war isnt pretty-wake up!!!!!!!!! These fannies betrayed the military code but you do reap what you sow
and sometimes the reward is crap
0686drummy 9 months ago
the gooks deserved it
lovelyigorilla 10 months ago
@lovelyigorilla pussy
beefy69 10 months ago
@lovelyigorilla typical bone head
aerlingling 10 months ago
@lovelyigorilla your a fucking moron thats a disgrace to humanity. If you have no compassion for innocent human life, you dont belong in this planet. Women and children tortured & killed and you think they deserve it? And by you using the word cook shows that your probably an uneducated redneck hillbilly trailer trash thats racist like your parents
ColDwight 7 months ago
@lovelyigorilla No, they didn't give me a logical argument as to why civilians deserve to die...or fuck off
Seita1223 7 months ago
Do you get annoyed about the commentator voice? YES......
pscottyxx 1 year ago 4
No men in the village? Why not? Was it an enemy village?
bethpage89 1 year ago
good choice of music for the vid love me some ideoteque
JoshTheAngryViewer 1 year ago
AMERICA = The most evil terrorist nation on earth
Yet they have the nerves to say " GOD BLESS AMERICA"
Why the fuck would god bless a terrorist nation full of fat, lazy, rude, disgusting, racist rednecks?.
FullBloodedHmoob 1 year ago
Probably the term "collateral damage" was not yet invented.
It is said for every taliban militant 10 civilians are killed by drones in Afghanistan but yes, in 1968 people were more sensitive as they are now.
envanje 1 year ago
@envanje You are a fucking idiot.A whole village was slaughtered, there were no men at all of fighting age, babies were killed, adolescent girls were raped and killed, animals were killed, homes were burned, half a thousand innocent villagers died that day, for no reason, how dare you relate that to collateral damage. Also the situation in Afghnaistan is exactly the same, people aren't less sensitive now, the American government and dicks like you have some illusion that they are doing good.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17
Your reaction reminds me that I must make sure the irony in my comments to be more obvious.
Sorry my friend, sometimes I like to know how people react on abject statements.
envanje 1 year ago
@envanje Haha okay thank you
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@envanje The nazis also had an illusion that they were doing good.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17
I'm pleased to hear from you that the nazis were not different as anyone else.
You should read my statement as ironical.
Though what I said about the sensitivity of people, well, maybe that's less as it was back in 1968.
envanje 1 year ago
@envanje are you serious you fucking moron?
ColDwight 7 months ago
@ColDwight Yes I'm serious you dumbass asshole !
envanje 7 months ago
@envanje you're probably a redneck hillbilly trailer trash with that mentality of yours. I feel sorry for uneducated fuckheads like you who has no compassion for human life.
ColDwight 7 months ago
@ColDwight yeah I'm a redneck hillbilly trailer trash and that's why my mentality is a lot better as yours sicko nogood !
envanje 7 months ago
america hate asians, they still do today, im asian american, i know!
FullBloodedHmoob 1 year ago
@FullBloodedHmoob Americans don't hate asians, I'm sure some do, but that 0.01% that do don't make up the entire country's population. That is a gross overgenrelisation. Also this had nothing to do with racism for asians. This was caused because these men were confused, scared, depressed and angry, they had been tormented by an unseen enemy, their commanders ordered them to kill everybody in that village and that is what they did. I am in no way trying to justify this massacre.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 U are trying to justify this massacre with all the above excuses. Ya, ya. They are so sacred of little kids that they need to fire a few rounds into their bodies to make sure they are dead. They are so depressed that their penises could still erect to rape the girls. They are obviously enjoying themselves. That Calley even made sure that little boy that tried to run away from the ditch was shot so that he could not testify against them.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 They weren't enjoying themselves you ignorant dick, you have no fucking idea. I was in no way trying to justify it. You have no fucking idea though.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 I am not a dick; I'm not obsessed with sex; I don't rape. I have better idea waht happened than you thought because I read the description of how they did it. Some tried to shoot a baby, he missed, he laughed and tried again. They were fucking enjoying it: they were fucking some of the girls they caught.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 I have been researching this massacre for well over a year, I didn't merely read a description on a youtube video.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 So u claimed. Then I am really appalled that u did not come across the description on how the execution was carried out. How Calley shot a boy who struggled out of a ditch. Maybe u chose to ignore it.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 I know all of it, I have read, heard amnd discovered every horrifying detail. But you can't judge all of theose men, most were only seventeen to twenty years old. They had been continuosly attacked by an unseen enemy. Their friends were killed over and over again and they were confused as to how this was happening. They had received orders to kill everybody in that village no matter who they were. A lot of them chose not to do it. A lot of them had been threatened with death if they didn
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 What a joke and bloody excuse ! They are threatened with dead if they did not obey orders ?! U made the US army sound like a dictator's army. Don't forget u are a democracy. U want to argue that the US military order the soldiers to rape women? The soldiers are so fightened and confused that they threw aside their weapons and took off their pants to rape ? They are seriously threatened by a child that they need to kill him when he was running away from them ? Oh, come on.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 I am not talking about every soldier, these crimes can never be justified, but not all of these people commited the acts you are speaking of. Also (don't think of this as an excuse) those soldiers at the time did not consider the Vietnamese people to be people and thus didn't treat them as such. War does this to a person's mind, if you have not expereienced it, you will never know.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 war doesn't cause any of the atrocities that was described in the my lai massacre. Thats all inhuman no matter where you've been . They deserve to die for what they did period.
ColDwight 7 months ago
@awc321 cont, didn't carry it out, most of the ones who did, did so while suffering and once they'd killed once, their minds shut down and their bodies continued commiting these atrocoties. A lot killed some people because they had been threatened if they wouldn't do so. They killed these people while crying. All of the people who did carry out this horrific crime have now either commited suicide or are still suffering to an extreme extent after what they have done.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 A lot of people who committed the crimes are never punished. Calley apologised and he expected to be paid $10000 to be interviewed by the press.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 I do believe Calley and some others deserved a much larger punishment. No less than life in prison. Calley ended up being a scapegoat the army could blame though and he did not receive what he deserved.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 I don't believe those guys were forced to carry out orders. Ever since when US troops so obedient. I don't think he was a scape goat. Neither did they accidentally kill the children. The kids they killed posed not threat to them. They did to vent their hatred. Hersh described a scene where after the rampage, the soldiers were eating besides a ditch and a kid managed to survive and crawl out of the ditch. In cold blood, Calley shot him. To silence him, maybe.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 You simply can't understand what I am trying to say to you. Also men like Calley did threaten soldiers with death if they did not kill those villagers. The acts you are describing are true. Most of these men however were good people. I will reiterate, war does this to the mind and you have no idea unless you have experienced it.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@awc321 Also it was never a matter of silencing people, they weren't trying to cover up what they did; and another thing it is widely believed by many people that Calley was indeed a scapegoat. I never said they accidentally killed the children. You are trying to shock me with factst I am already aware of and I never said to you that this massacre was right, could be justified or should be forgiven. You don't however understand what I am trying to say.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 I do. U don't understand me.I was talking about silencing the little boy who ran out of the ditch, not the rest. Tell me then, why didn't Calley let him off ? I never accused you of saying the massacre was right. I am just saying they are not just forced to carry out orders to massacre the village as u believed.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 The boy wasn't killed to silence him, they had killed half a thousand people already, the boy meant nothing to Calley. Also Calley was the only person out of everyone involved who got any sort of punishment whatsoever. Lastly they were ordered to kill everybody in that village. Look further into this.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 Then why did he kill the boy then ? Obeying orders ? Ever since when they were so obedient. I seriously doubt US military would give such order although they would definitely turn a blind eye if they did kill innocents.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 First of all you need to work on your english skills. Why did he kill the other hundred people he killed, do you really have to ask why he killed that boy? Also the order was given, look it up.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@awc321 You know very litle about this massacre, this much is obvious
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 No, no, no. I have every good knowledge of this event and I can tell what is a lie from what is the truth.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 That was a lie, you were not aware that it was an order, one of the most well known facts about the massacre.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 Not at all. The US military would not be so stupid to give such an order that would incriminate them in the end. Anyway, C company was indeed so enthusiastic to obey such an order to the letter.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 Look it up then, fuck, type it in to google and look it up. It is simple.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 I have Seymour Hersh as my source. U can find his interview with Democracy Now on youtube.
awc321 1 year ago
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@awc321 I'm ending this conversation, if you won't take your time to look up a basic fact, there is no point in continuing.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@awc321 Cont, I'm sorry I'm too tired at the moment to really express what I want to, I'll continue the conversation when I'm more awakem, but I suggest you watch some of the interviews in 'Four Hours In My Lai' and read up on the people who carried out this massacre before claiming that they enjoyed themselves.
PrivateJoker17 1 year ago
@PrivateJoker17 I did. I read how they mutilated the dead, cutting open a pregnant woman to take out an unborn baby, cutting off genitals of the dead as trophies.
awc321 1 year ago
@awc321 the guy you are commenting on just had a go at someone for justifying it look at his first comment on this vid you cunt
BlackLabelForLife 8 months ago
@BlackLabelForLife Peterjoker was 'condemning' envajie for something envajie never did: justufying the massacre using the term 'collateral damage'. U r teh one who should re-read all comments. In any case, neither did I accuse Peterjoker of justifying the massacre. I claimed that he was finding excuses that were not backed by facts for the actions of Charlie coy. In fact, what seymour hersh described in his book pointed to many sadistic men in Charlie coy.
awc321 8 months ago
Fucking Tragic.
Jonny13Blaze 1 year ago
A war against guerillas/insurgents is all but impossible to win. It is frustrating and heartbraking for those involved, and can all too easily lead to this type of criminal attrociity.
Its good to see the US learned its lesson after Vietnam tho........
crocfme 1 year ago
Hippies were a vast help during the VN War.
Tien1185 1 year ago
Whoever participated in this shit is fucking retarded.
andrew12494 1 year ago 6
@andrew12494 GOD!! 'Retarded?'!! They are not fuckin 'Retarded'. The retard is the kid who lives down the road playing with his dick in front of his sister! They are FUCKIN' MONSTERS!
thevisamaster 8 months ago
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US atrocities in Vietnam war? Study the "My Lai Massacre".
'He fired at it [the baby] with a .45. He missed. We all laughed. He got up three or four feet closer and missed again. We laughed. Then he got up right on top and plugged him.'
"Peers Inquiry: Report of the Department of the Army Review of the Preliminary Investigations into the My Lai Incident".
Vietnam vets deserve NO respect, also google "William Calley" convicted US war criminal
Guevaristas 1 year ago
Absolutely horrendous....Mankind is so cruel...I hate it
hbliquid32 1 year ago
This is fucking dog shit.
stolencorpse 1 year ago 7
@stolencorpse you american arsoles killing women an children very bravr
del8181 1 year ago
chúng nó "không coi người Việt là người nữa"-một cựu binh đã nói.Cái đám tay sai này đáng chết cả ngàn lần
ctenar1970 2 years ago
It is forbidden to kill; therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets. - Voltaire.
beancube2008 2 years ago