@downshift83 I've saved up a little over $7000 for a cbr 600rr and iv wanted one for so long....however im only 16 so i mean would you consider that a contributing factor, or should i wait till im older?....im only asking cause you seem to know bikes well along with having one....
Someone starting on a 250r will (most likely) become a more confident, comfortable rider in the long run, as opposed to someone who started out on an r1, always conscience of not jerking a twist of the throttle. That's just my opinion.
i agree with you, its all about having respect for the bike when your choosing. if you plan on getting a 1000cc bike and the only thing on your mind is popping wheels and speeding on your first bike your going to eventually kill yourself.but i started off with an r1 and im still alive because of the respect i have my bike! but im not saying i dont like to speed either lol
I just got my first bike, I really wanted a Ninja 250r at first, then realised I would get bored of it in the long run, Keeping with the super sport type, I wanted a CBR600, but then the insurance was too much for my age (19) so I got a CB500, great condition £800 I'm the second owner, So I can improve on my Honda CB 500 then move up to the super-sports :D
I started off on a 1986 Yamaha Fazer 700. Anyone can handle a big CC bike as long as you aren't dumb with it. Any bike can seriously hurt you if you are stupid on it. If you can control the throttle and brakes you can start off on any motorcycle.
I am looking at a Ninja 500R as a first bike but the 250R has been really tempting me because the fuel economy but I would rather have a more capable bike then something thats only good on gas.
@jordancanadian I'm being serious , Yamaha tzr 125... Maybe you should look it up?They are 33 BHP standard but you can get a special edition one which has 39 BHP and brembo brakes...
@ScottiesVlog hey man, Im in the same position, but its 33bhp in the UK, and to be honest you will never get stopped and checked... unless you wreck it into someone they will never know you have more than 33bhp...
I just got a honda CB500, I think its 44bhp, I could get a restriction kit for it, But im not going to, there is no way that they can check it at the side of the road and unless they have a good reason to make you get it DINO tested, your fine.
I bought a Suzuki GS500f as my first bike when i was 19. I've had it for a year and a half now and i still love it. i know it doesnt have that power in the straights but i can keep up with my buddies in the mountains pretty easily. i now own a yamaha vstar 1100. i also paid for both of them and paid for maintenance, tires, insurance and eveerything. you respect stuff more also regardless of age if you spend your own money on it and not have your parents do everything for you
my first bike was a cbr 600 f4, the reason i got it was bc it was only 800 bucks needed some work.. but now its a fun bike after i installed a 520 conversion, and jumped up 6 teeth n the back
thanx for wasting my 8 minutes douche. you said nothing important but to respect the bike, which is common fucking sense, and i still have no idea which bike i should get.
I've been riding bicycles my whole life, from mountain biking to high speed road biking (30-45mph on canyon roads) so I figure this ought to make a difference in what motorcycle I start with? The Ninja 250r might be a tad small and I'm afraid I will want a bigger bike not long after I get it, so any suggestions?
@xkakashix12 have you ridden dirt bikes or four wheelers. the only help you will get from biking like myself is reaction time and counter steering. clutch control and idiocracy cause most accidents
Depends a lot on the person, as you mentioned. For smaller people, a 250 sport bike will likely be a good starting point. For larger people, a 250 is too small.
I ride dualsports, so my first bike was a KLR650. I'm stupid enough that I would have killed myself on a 600cc sport bike.
my first bike was a dual sport suzuki dr350 with 425 big bore and aftermarket pipe it has alot of power and for me felt like it was fast ran about 90mph on the highway looking trying to get me a gsx-r750 older style since im a big guy.
My first was a Ninja500. Great bike to get rid of the initial fear factor of riding for the first time, and also to take your license test etc. It has enough power for around town but after a month or two I realized how slow and outdated it is. Upgrading over the winter with no complaints. Motorcycling is wicked fun. Peace
bought a 600cc sport bike for my first bike it was the best thing for me cause i took it easy the first bit and learned how to ride and i can keep it for awhile and not get bored with it after a month
my first was and still is the Honda CB600F Hornet and i think it's perfect for beginners as it has been for me for the last 3 years (no serious crashes)! i've kinda outgrown it by now but if i started on 250 or 125 i think in 3 months i would have been seriously bored with it. Trust me...the Hornet is the best beginner bike out there and tons of fun even after many miles and years of riding! Just respect the bike and you'll be fine!
A good first bike should be affordable and easy to control, with low weight, comfortable ergonomics and with low horsepower output. If the beginner rider prefers cruisers, I'd suggest a stroked big block 606ci Boss Hoss with an aftermarket nitrous injection system. If the rider prefers sportbikes, I'd suggest an early 90's Yamaha YZR500 or maybe a Top Fuel Drag Bike. As far as dirtbikes go, a beginner cannot go wrong with a Honda CR500 or a 760 Maico.
u are soo right im a girl & my first bike is a 250 ninja that ive had for 2 years & i hate it! lol its to slow & no power. also sounds like shit even with a slip on.
I agree, I started on a 6 and have had no issue. But that was after doing my homework and coming in with the mindset that I want to learn to ride. And by that I mean control the bike not just wheelie and try to pick up chicks. The 250 is great but isn't for everyone. Make your choice based on your level of responsibility/desire. I could've started on a liter, but I knew it wasn't a good idea for me. I've seen others do it though. Ultimately it's throttle control and respect for the bike.
Thanks for taking the time to vlog about this topic. Imo the most important thing is, like you said, "have a plan". Taking the time out to think before buying a bike provides the opportunity for someone to cover all the aspects besides just learning how to ride the dang thing.
The first bike I ever rode was my dad's Yamaha V-max. Only first and second gear around a parking lot but piece of cake! I'm just itching to get a 600 of my own sometime in the near future.
Firstly great vids downshift and real entertaining to watch ;-)
I recently passed my test and what gave me the get up and go to pass it even more was that i looked at and fancied the suzuki gsx 650f, ok not a sport bike but a good GROWN UP learner Bike that has some power but its something that i can grow with for a while.A 250 never crossed my mind at all as i did not want to be like the rest im not saying that's a bad thing but just my preference.
I agree with not starting a on a 250cc... the first time you take that on the highway and have to crank 10k rpm just to sustain 70mph in 6th gear, you get the feeling "hey, this has to be easier..." And then when you pull up to your bike shop in your 250 and park it next to the local clubs' superbikes, a part of you just wants to get something bigger.
So yeah. Start with something bigger... i dunno, some twin 600cc would do fine.
a 600 you can learn quickly on but doubtful someone will out grow it quickly good advice here the only reason i would recommend a 250 is for someone like my wife and that is only because she can not reach the ground on anything else she has to lean to one side and tip toe that side just to touch and she is not comfortable and that is what I think it is all about is being comfortable on your bike
people say not to listen to ds but I have to say he makes a very good point make a plan for what it will be used for my first bike which I still own is a yzf600r I bought it with a rebuilt salvage title no it is not a race replica but it has more than enough power to keep up with the super sport 600 class I have not laid it down nor out road myself on it just be smart and it can be done also agree a liter bike is not a good starter but I did not want a 250 due to out growing it I mean hell
I bought a GSXR750 for my first bike. Id never ridden anything but a dirt bike and a quad up until that point. I did fine. Doesnt mean its a good idea to start out that big, but if you respect the power and take the time to learn proper technique you SHOULD be fine. Granted, starting out on a 250CC or 500CC bike is a better choice because you can spend more time learning proper technique over worrying about the power, but its all personal preference I guess
@krazcrip Suuuure spend thousands of dollars on a 600cc bike and then have it go down in value fast when you drop the bike. Better to buy a 250cc and learn how to take curves without stress than getting 600cc and then try not to crash by over rolling on the throttle.
I agree with a fair few of your points, but I'd really not recommend getting a super sport to start off on. I ride a Kawasaki ninja 250, and I think it has plenty of power, sure, in a year or two I'll upgrade, but for now, I love it! I ride it hard, but treat it well. But of course, this is only my opinion.
@krazcrip you think i could start off on a 600? i have a dirtbike and ive riden a harley once before...do you think it would be too much or you think i would be able to handle it? (and considering it would be my first bike i would obviously be pretty safe and not go crazy on anything i get)
I started riding my 07 ZX6R a week ago and all I needed was 2 days of BRC course. At first I was paranoid of dropping it because it is a very heavy bike, but then I grew in to it and now i enjoy riding to work and just cruising around town.
My cousin got a 650R like 4 months ago and he has put like 4k miles on it already and is bored as hell with it I can ride circles around him. I would get a pure sportbike and stay away a sportcruiser if you like twisties at all
I started on a gsxr750 also great bike, took a year off and today I just made my last payment on an 07 zzr600. I think you need to take a good looks at the kinda person you are, if you are gonna drive a new bike off the showroom floor and try to do wheelies on the way home you should start on a 250 but if your a sane person starting on any 750 or less sportbike is no prob.
@DubsIV yeah I agree 1000% personally I learn to ride on a 100cc off road bike, and I learned a lot. I still have a dirt bike but a 250 cc now I agree with your comment about "smaller bike" ..... not long ago I seen a new rider on a 1000cc, was scary they would hit the brakes pretty hard every time they took a corner, they were afraid to lean into corners ..... One of these days they will hit the brake a little too hard and land on their as just hope they don't get hurt too bad...
mummy and daddy bought me a new bike.. but i'm only 16.. and i actually have a job getting $450 a month.. I'm just hoping they dont ask me to pay them back haah.
@tyler9603 hey man same here lol except I'm on the ninja still. Had to have a parent cosign just cause I didnt hhave credit yet. Always paying more than the minimum and hoping by the end of the year I can pay it off. And a gsxr 600 is what I'm wanting to. What year is yours?
@FabrezeFRESH any thing under 1000 is pussy shit! going to track is pussy shit! starting on a 600 is pussy shit! if you saying people might kill them self by starting on a 600 or a 1000 you so retarded cuz it's possible to die with a 125!
start with what u like, no mater how noob you are! just get bicycle to learn how to balance your self and not fuckin fall like a bitch. and stop training people like a fuckin pussy! heh..I never bought and never would buy 600. 600 is 1000 wonna be!
@FabrezeFRESH dude i started on a 750 and only laid it down once and it wasnt even my fault i had a passenger lie to me and said she knew what she was doing
I think the best option is a trial bike(250),becouse of a new rider usually don´t have much money so this kind of bikes are a nice option for novice.Are cheap,light,and if U crash... part are not usually very expensive,...Then you can buy a new bigger one with the certainty of leading a good base.
@Auzea thanks greatly appreciated.! Can't wait to ride Been wanting to ride ever since I could walk now I'm of age.! Unfortunatly I've had a set back nd can't ride till next year :(
i got my first bike in 2005 when i was 20. i went with a brand new ninja 250. i had my dad cosign with me on the loan and paid it off just shy of 2 years by making triple the minimum payments. that gave me excellent credit to get a loan for the GSXR600 I would get a year after paying off the 250. riding the 250 for three years was a great learning experience (i only dropped it once while i was still learning) and made getting the 600 that much sweeter (never dropped it once)
and i am 17 nearly 18, i own a 150 cc yamaha R-15, and i respect it probably more than anything else i have, or don't have, thing is one factor i think you forgot to mention (cud see only upto 6 min. 13 sec.) is the amount of indulgence you have, a lot of people buy bikes for flash, and end up scraping just enough knowledge to keep it on two wheel, not more, and definitely not less, that is another factor which i think decides the kind of bike you should buy :)
@rahuljainification I dont want to talk too much shit... about "respecting" a 150cc-cuz that's not the direction i want to go... anyway that exactly how i started-and learned along the way, bike's get scratched up- unfortunatly it's the game we play. Thankfuly there is a thing called "natual selection"...dont tell anyone...but thankfully it prevents said person from buying annother bike.=)KTRSD
@downshift83 yeah, i live in india, and we don't have 600 ccs available, and the true performance bikes have a 100% excise duty, so a litre class sports bike costs. $ 32,000 on-road, and for india, two-wheeler segment is more about commuting than what it should be about, indulgence. Hence my bike is the best available sports bike. hence my respect. :P :D
i don't know if u will consider it important or not, but in your speech there are too many gaps, please try to be more fluent as that will make it easier to grasp it if it remains in a flow.
well i did several things u mentioned wrong when i bought my first bike. 1st thing i did wrong was buy a used bike not knowing the condition and not knowing much about bikes. ( a month after getting the bike it seized up) 2nd thing wrong was getting a CBR1000 at 16 years old. and 3rd was underestimating the power of it.
I first planned on buying a Suzuki SV650S. Didn't trust myself with the power from the 1000's, and thought the SV's V-twin would make up for a lot of the low/mid-torque you sacrifice with a 600cc.
I ended up buying a '00Triumph Daytona 955i that my uncle was selling, and I don't regret it at all!As you said: as long as you have respect for your bike, and the power it has, it's no problem. It scared me a bit at first, but I've gotten used to it now, and I'm having a blast on it!
I live in BC, Canada and when I first got my L (learners) @ age of 16 (im 18 now) I learned and rode my dads vstar 650 cruiser for a while. Then after a year of not riding I moved on to buy my own bike which I currently ride 2007 GSXR 600. To be honest it has all the power I ever will need. Unless your really nervous for your first bike you shouldnt bother with a 250. Learning on a 600 shouldnt be that hard and defenitly know your limits and later explore it when your ready.
It has nothing to do with the engine volume, but the poweroutput.
Also if you've taken the "intermediate licence" (allows you to ride bikes with up to 34hp) at the age of 18 (when it's first allowed) you get the "heavy licence" (no powerlimit) automatically after 2 years (when you turn 20).
If you don't take the "intermediate", you have to wait until your 21 to take the "heavy" one.
@IthyStopTakingMyName Everything you say is 100% true. Unfortunately I didn't do that(take intermediate licence) so Ill have to wait until Im 21. (The Norwegian government wants to take everything fun out of our lifes with the gas prices, laws and taxes)
Couldn't agree more with you on the government part.. annoying really. Moving to Sweden gets more and more tempting..
I took the "light licence" when I was 16, and sort of forgot the "intermediate" when I turned 18, was busy taking my car licence, and being a "Russ"..
Taken the "heavy" one now though, feels great to be back on a bike again.
Damn Downie. This Vid was honest, to the point and very truthful. Made a lot of sense and I'm sure a ton of peeps got much from it. Very respectable Vlog. Hmmm Vlog.. we don't see many like this from you ha ha. Your usually entertaining not informing.
im 16 and i ride a ninja 250 09 black of coarse looks the best haha. i have a dirt bike so i know all the gears clutch all that shit anyway its a gooood starter ROAD bike but within 2 months i wanted more power now 5months on i am already saving to get a zx10 next year so start with a 250 then get a 600 3months later it would really help ALOT...and i ride with r1s ducati 1098s and such and they have never seen a rider as good as me on a 250 they go hard if you want them to.
Hey downshift I'm 17 years old 5'7" 155lbs nd wanna start riding. I have no motorcycle experience at all but been in love with bikes since i can remember! Also plan to take the msf course. But n.e ways enough babling. I'm looking into the gsxr 600 and r6. Ik u said just respect the bike nd you'll b fine which I believe I have plenty good since not to Fuck around cause its a dangerous ass hobby! But wat do u suggest in my case considering my age, size, and experience.?
@DirtyDogDalton Comes down to personal preference. Take a MSF course (most don't require you to own a motorcycle). Once done go to dealers and in your cause sit on ALL the 600cc classes, and pick the one you fit the most comfortable on.
@peteninja24 Hey mate, fellow aussie here. Go to bikepoint , you probably already know this but it cant hurt to tell ya anyway, you can find some pretty decent bikes for under 10 grand theese days. Just be sure to either check em out properly or take someone with you that knows a bit about the mechanical side of things on a bike.
i always tell people to go to a dealer and sit on different brands and styles of bikes because what might feel good to you might not feel good to me. I like suzukis, i hate yamaha, they are just to small gor me and i feel very cramped, being a bigger buy suzuki, specificly gsxr's feel custom made for me. mo stiff wrists, sore backs, or numb fingers. Now what size you start with, is all up to you...just be smart and get something you wont outgrow to fast but nothing youll die on asap.
doesnt make sense to buy a 250 ride for a summer say okay that thing sucks its slow i wanna upgrade, take a loss on it then dish out more cash for something better... spend it on something that you'll keep for a bit, at 18 bought a brand new gsxr 600 glad i didnt buy any smaller took it easy for the first couple weeks really learned how to ride now after a bit ill upgrade to a 1000
i started on my friends rebel after the m license class. still deciding between sport and cruiser. no Harley of course. but yea after 3 hours i was red lining that lil rebel and basically had that thing mastered. so it was boring. i know a 250 sport bike would be more challenging but upgrade would be within a year at least.
I agree with the statement that you'll want to upgrade from a 250 nearly right away. My friend started on a ninja 250 and bugs me weekly to ride my bike because I started on a 600. Might be a cheap bike, and accel in the twisties, but when it comes to a night ride on the open freeway, you're really going to get mad when you can't keep up with the speeding we like to do.
i agree, with some brain power you can start on pretty much anything but from what i've seen and experianced and talk racers the general trend is that the ones who started on smaller bikes and worked they're way up are much better riders than the ones who started on big bikes
the best ones are the ones started when they were like 7 on 50cc dirt bikes cuz by the time they're 15-16 so that they could ride on the road they have 8-9 years of experiance already, and 17yr old who get a 600 has 0exp
I dont subscribe to the "respect" thought camp. Many factors, but if you havent grown up riding/powersports stuff and you havent ridden passenger or anything you have NO idea what you are getting into, no matter the size engine. Understanding of the vehicle and how it "goes" is important. You can dump the clutch, grab too much brake, hit a false neutral and still go down because you didnt know what it was like until you actually do it yourself.
Do your research, talk to guys, learn your shit, then decide for yourself what the best bike is. If you base you choice solely off of what some guy on the internet who doesn't know you at all tells you, then maybe you should start on a scooter.
I will say though, that if you want to ride the absolute shit out of your first bike, then start on the smaller side. A bigger, more powerful bike is definitely harder to abuse and toss around when you're not sure what the hell you're doing.
people say its all in your head about being respectfull with it... that goes to shit onces you come into a corner too hot and there is a car on the other side of the road and you hit the gas on a 600 and it spits you off.
I was looking into getting a Ninja 250, but right now I'm actually looking at the DRZ-400 SuperMoto. Fun, reliable, enough power, but not too much power. Perfect for a beginner.
More words from the wise.......good info, my friend. Definitely a bunch of info for first time buyers....never overdue it. Had an acquaintance byt a liter for his first.......thought his balls weighed 50 lbs and was over confident. Wrecked and now paralyzed from the waist down after 2 weeks of owning it. Under powered is always safe until your ready no matter what machine it is.
Couldnt agree more on the respect for the bike part. I started out on a VTR 1000. Very fucking twitchy /torquey bike. Treated it like a baby while i was learning and didnt come off once, infact i didnt come off untill i downgraded to a smaller ( but newer) 600. It's great hearing my thoughts on the matter confirmed by someone else. I brought it up with M13 and the guy told me i was an idiot that got lucky. 11 years with one down and on a smaller bike at that? proves the point.
@Antifaith29 M13 is right, you got lucky with the 1000 cc bike because you ended up going down later on with an even smaller bike that is easier to handle. You didn't actually have the skill that was needed (although you thought you did) which resulted in you crashing the 600 cc bike.
@JacoPastorius99 No he wasnt right, i didnt drop the bike because i was sensable on it. Obviously you either dont ride or havnt been riding for long, pal. There are two kinds of riders, those that have been down and those that are going down. Skill level has nothing to do with it. had you read my post you would have noted id been riding 11 years now with ONE down. Thats a pretty fucking good average imo especialy considering the down was at a track.
@Antifaith29 I have been riding motorcycles for 8 years. The reason everybody will go down is a result of other drivers out there and uncontrolled variables in your situation on the roads, not because everybody will have a little mess up on the twisties (due to lack of skill riding). That little saying doesn't give all riders an excuse for why they messed up and went down, it says that eventually, no matter how good you are, there are things that you cannot control that will cause you to fall.
@JacoPastorius99 As i said, my one down was on a track. No cars on the road , fairly controlled environment, much the same as anyone else racing on a track that goes down. Now, i'm in no way saying im anywhere near as good as the pro riders but hey, they go down in much the same situations i did. Back to my first bike. I rode safe on it because i KNEW i didnt have the skill to push it hard and as such didnt do so untill i had developed the skill to do so. I rode safe and stayed safe. (cont)
@JacoPastorius99 Iuck played no more part in it than had i been riding a smaller bike. At 6'5 and 265 lb the vtr was simply a better fit for me ( and even then it was a little small ) the 600 i race now feels like a fucking toy under me but the comp i ride in is restricted to such. My daily ride is a zx10 theese days. I'm done arguing the point with you , you're entitled to your opinion ofcourse but hey, even the guy making the vid here seems to have the same pov as i do and many others.
if you are like me and only like sports bikes i'd get a older 600. i got an older zx6r and it's perfect coz you can take it easy in low revs but when you get up past 11k it really shifts. i still feel happy with it after 8 months
Factor in INSURANCE cost for a bike before you buy one! New riders might pay as much (or MORE) than the bike payment itself in Insurance Premiums! Get quotes from as many companies as possible using the VIN# off of the prospective bike to avoid any price misquotes!
I was going to upgrade to a Ninja 650R (the Ninja 500's replacement), but found out that it cost MORE (almost $300.00 MORE per Year... In Fact) to insure than the YZF-600R I was also considering!
And anyone no much differnce between the yzf6/1 to say a gixer to a kawi or a cbr/rr comfort gearing faster? Better gas or matenice all would be great help
So i was thinkin sense there high rev bikes a 1000 would last longer? Anyone no what would be best for that. Second of all im pretty tall 6'2 and i was on a buell 1300 and the bike felt so small. For size effin, sweet bike though lots of power. Ino it comes down to prefence for the right bike but what do i guys thinks a good size nothing less then a 600.
Ive been driving a bike for the past 2 years and upgrading to either the 600 to 1000 class. 600 be perfect and 1000 ino i would have to respect it. Lookin at a 2003- a 2008 and either a cbr or kawi. Even the other jap bikes too. the 636 i herd is good. anywaz back to topick id be mostlydoing highway driving. So i was thinkin sense there high rev bikes a 1000 would last longer?
@justkirby902x Supersports are meant to go fast, every 600 would last fine on the highway. It depends what you like, sit on both (whatever brand you choose), then pick. Realize that bikes are meant to be pushed to their limit, and they will all last just about every abuse you put it through. Unless your absolutely killing your engine by shifting wrong,etc.
@dazzelya yea i never knew to think about the gear....im struggling to get good gear. ive dropped this peice of shit helmet i got for free with the bike like 7 times on complete accident. I finally got enough to buy a new one so i got the Icon Variant. gear is the most expensive part of a moto.
i needed a good city bike.. something that i could get around in the city streets, with the trafic and stuff.. but also a bike that could do 120 miles when i go to the high way for a bit of fun =D
Also you can die on a 250 or a 1000, shit you can die by just walking out your house, so don't be sacred to get a bigger bike, but i wouldn't start on a 1000.
@downshift83 I've saved up a little over $7000 for a cbr 600rr and iv wanted one for so long....however im only 16 so i mean would you consider that a contributing factor, or should i wait till im older?....im only asking cause you seem to know bikes well along with having one....
GoldenGirlieLoins 2 hours ago
Someone starting on a 250r will (most likely) become a more confident, comfortable rider in the long run, as opposed to someone who started out on an r1, always conscience of not jerking a twist of the throttle. That's just my opinion.
DonZaloog88 3 hours ago
someone reply to insurance prices for sport bikes compared to supersport
THECODGODZ101 1 day ago
damn dude i just realized your driving around in bremerton! lol
kyleholt11 1 week ago
i agree with you, its all about having respect for the bike when your choosing. if you plan on getting a 1000cc bike and the only thing on your mind is popping wheels and speeding on your first bike your going to eventually kill yourself.but i started off with an r1 and im still alive because of the respect i have my bike! but im not saying i dont like to speed either lol
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i would recommend a suzuki hayabusa for a first bike if you ask me. then work your way up
MARKSALOT559 1 week ago 2
just subscribed, good video ill use this reasoning in my first bike purchase
zombiBinLaden 1 week ago
I just got my first bike, I really wanted a Ninja 250r at first, then realised I would get bored of it in the long run, Keeping with the super sport type, I wanted a CBR600, but then the insurance was too much for my age (19) so I got a CB500, great condition £800 I'm the second owner, So I can improve on my Honda CB 500 then move up to the super-sports :D
wildicepick 1 week ago
wow dude if u took a right of the exit by the high and turnd left at the stop light went down the hill ud pass my apartment complex
MrSwaggtastic96 1 week ago
I started off on a 1986 Yamaha Fazer 700. Anyone can handle a big CC bike as long as you aren't dumb with it. Any bike can seriously hurt you if you are stupid on it. If you can control the throttle and brakes you can start off on any motorcycle.
corystanley1 1 week ago
I am looking at a Ninja 500R as a first bike but the 250R has been really tempting me because the fuel economy but I would rather have a more capable bike then something thats only good on gas.
CalcityAirsoft 2 weeks ago
My first and current bike is a yamaha tzr 125 :D... In the uk I cant get a bike over 30 BHP until Im 21 so I got a 125 with 39 BHP....
ScottiesVlog 2 weeks ago
@ScottiesVlog
yap really a 125 with 39hp grow up man
jordancanadian 2 weeks ago
@jordancanadian I'm being serious , Yamaha tzr 125... Maybe you should look it up?They are 33 BHP standard but you can get a special edition one which has 39 BHP and brembo brakes...
ScottiesVlog 1 week ago
@ScottiesVlog hey man, Im in the same position, but its 33bhp in the UK, and to be honest you will never get stopped and checked... unless you wreck it into someone they will never know you have more than 33bhp...
I just got a honda CB500, I think its 44bhp, I could get a restriction kit for it, But im not going to, there is no way that they can check it at the side of the road and unless they have a good reason to make you get it DINO tested, your fine.
wildicepick 1 week ago
@wildicepick Yeah thats what Im thinking but I don't think they will even bother to check when they find out my bike is only a little 125...
ScottiesVlog 1 week ago
@ScottiesVlog you know you can Ride a 125cc on a CBT right? You don't actually have to do your test? Although a CBT only lasts for 2 years.
wildicepick 1 week ago
@wildicepick I know but my insurance was twice the amount on a CBT...
ScottiesVlog 1 week ago
@ScottiesVlog Ahhh okay, Makes sense! Well good luck and Ride safe!
wildicepick 1 week ago
@wildicepick Thanks mate you too :).
ScottiesVlog 1 week ago
I bought a Suzuki GS500f as my first bike when i was 19. I've had it for a year and a half now and i still love it. i know it doesnt have that power in the straights but i can keep up with my buddies in the mountains pretty easily. i now own a yamaha vstar 1100. i also paid for both of them and paid for maintenance, tires, insurance and eveerything. you respect stuff more also regardless of age if you spend your own money on it and not have your parents do everything for you
DeadbyY3ti 2 weeks ago
im 16 and i respect a bike that i want but dont even have! lol
gatorsrule850 3 weeks ago
Started on a 2002 CB600F (hornet) and it saved my life a couple of times. Cheers
Robs777 1 month ago
my first bike was a cbr 600 f4, the reason i got it was bc it was only 800 bucks needed some work.. but now its a fun bike after i installed a 520 conversion, and jumped up 6 teeth n the back
R3l3ntl3ss89 1 month ago
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kazeboy1 1 month ago
400cc's are good starting bikes in my opinion, good power but not enough to kill yourself :P
DanBarns92 1 month ago
@AnimusStyle Thanx for waiting my 2 min to reply to your dumb ass- cliff notes... Figure it the fvck out...=)
downshift83 2 months ago
thanx for wasting my 8 minutes douche. you said nothing important but to respect the bike, which is common fucking sense, and i still have no idea which bike i should get.
AnimusStyle 2 months ago
@AnimusStyle LOL
danorambo 2 months ago
I'm nearly 18 and I've bought a Honda cbr 600 f sport - just wonderfull to drive
daLoE2703 2 months ago
@daLoE2703 bro is it hard to learn
SkyKnight26 1 month ago
I've been riding bicycles my whole life, from mountain biking to high speed road biking (30-45mph on canyon roads) so I figure this ought to make a difference in what motorcycle I start with? The Ninja 250r might be a tad small and I'm afraid I will want a bigger bike not long after I get it, so any suggestions?
xkakashix12 2 months ago
@xkakashix12 have you ridden dirt bikes or four wheelers. the only help you will get from biking like myself is reaction time and counter steering. clutch control and idiocracy cause most accidents
gokarter57275 3 weeks ago
Depends a lot on the person, as you mentioned. For smaller people, a 250 sport bike will likely be a good starting point. For larger people, a 250 is too small.
I ride dualsports, so my first bike was a KLR650. I'm stupid enough that I would have killed myself on a 600cc sport bike.
dahveed284 2 months ago
my first bike was a dual sport suzuki dr350 with 425 big bore and aftermarket pipe it has alot of power and for me felt like it was fast ran about 90mph on the highway looking trying to get me a gsx-r750 older style since im a big guy.
Tev365 2 months ago
My first was a Ninja500. Great bike to get rid of the initial fear factor of riding for the first time, and also to take your license test etc. It has enough power for around town but after a month or two I realized how slow and outdated it is. Upgrading over the winter with no complaints. Motorcycling is wicked fun. Peace
420FlyByNight 2 months ago
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its cool to start off on a 600. i started off on a Honda 650XL trail.
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its cool to start off on a 600. i started off on a Honda 650XL trail.
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its cool to start off on a 600. i started off on a Honda 650XL trail.
MrTopdogg4 2 months ago in playlist Uploaded videos
its cool to start off on a 600. i started off on a Honda 650XL trail.
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bought a 600cc sport bike for my first bike it was the best thing for me cause i took it easy the first bit and learned how to ride and i can keep it for awhile and not get bored with it after a month
Morpheen999 3 months ago
my first was and still is the Honda CB600F Hornet and i think it's perfect for beginners as it has been for me for the last 3 years (no serious crashes)! i've kinda outgrown it by now but if i started on 250 or 125 i think in 3 months i would have been seriously bored with it. Trust me...the Hornet is the best beginner bike out there and tons of fun even after many miles and years of riding! Just respect the bike and you'll be fine!
alinusu 3 months ago
A good first bike should be affordable and easy to control, with low weight, comfortable ergonomics and with low horsepower output. If the beginner rider prefers cruisers, I'd suggest a stroked big block 606ci Boss Hoss with an aftermarket nitrous injection system. If the rider prefers sportbikes, I'd suggest an early 90's Yamaha YZR500 or maybe a Top Fuel Drag Bike. As far as dirtbikes go, a beginner cannot go wrong with a Honda CR500 or a 760 Maico.
1stGoRide 3 months ago
how old are you?
da9illest821 3 months ago
Just so I can learn to shift a motorcycle
zamuriaz 4 months ago
I'm 15 and for my first bike I'm fixing up a beater bike to learn how to ride before I buy a better one. It's a 1980-1990 Honda 125cc
zamuriaz 4 months ago
u are soo right im a girl & my first bike is a 250 ninja that ive had for 2 years & i hate it! lol its to slow & no power. also sounds like shit even with a slip on.
carrielee333 4 months ago
@carrielee333 lol slip on, on a 250 is a epic fail!
KOSKESH43 3 months ago
I agree, I started on a 6 and have had no issue. But that was after doing my homework and coming in with the mindset that I want to learn to ride. And by that I mean control the bike not just wheelie and try to pick up chicks. The 250 is great but isn't for everyone. Make your choice based on your level of responsibility/desire. I could've started on a liter, but I knew it wasn't a good idea for me. I've seen others do it though. Ultimately it's throttle control and respect for the bike.
chdixn 4 months ago
Thanks for taking the time to vlog about this topic. Imo the most important thing is, like you said, "have a plan". Taking the time out to think before buying a bike provides the opportunity for someone to cover all the aspects besides just learning how to ride the dang thing.
dlinquencious 4 months ago
The first bike I ever rode was my dad's Yamaha V-max. Only first and second gear around a parking lot but piece of cake! I'm just itching to get a 600 of my own sometime in the near future.
bradpoker99 4 months ago
Firstly great vids downshift and real entertaining to watch ;-)
I recently passed my test and what gave me the get up and go to pass it even more was that i looked at and fancied the suzuki gsx 650f, ok not a sport bike but a good GROWN UP learner Bike that has some power but its something that i can grow with for a while.A 250 never crossed my mind at all as i did not want to be like the rest im not saying that's a bad thing but just my preference.
Thumbs up buddy and subscribed with a smile
thatmanfromyorkshire 5 months ago
I agree with not starting a on a 250cc... the first time you take that on the highway and have to crank 10k rpm just to sustain 70mph in 6th gear, you get the feeling "hey, this has to be easier..." And then when you pull up to your bike shop in your 250 and park it next to the local clubs' superbikes, a part of you just wants to get something bigger.
So yeah. Start with something bigger... i dunno, some twin 600cc would do fine.
Likhi 5 months ago
a 600 you can learn quickly on but doubtful someone will out grow it quickly good advice here the only reason i would recommend a 250 is for someone like my wife and that is only because she can not reach the ground on anything else she has to lean to one side and tip toe that side just to touch and she is not comfortable and that is what I think it is all about is being comfortable on your bike
jsleeper81 5 months ago in playlist More videos from downshift83
people say not to listen to ds but I have to say he makes a very good point make a plan for what it will be used for my first bike which I still own is a yzf600r I bought it with a rebuilt salvage title no it is not a race replica but it has more than enough power to keep up with the super sport 600 class I have not laid it down nor out road myself on it just be smart and it can be done also agree a liter bike is not a good starter but I did not want a 250 due to out growing it I mean hell
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I bought a GSXR750 for my first bike. Id never ridden anything but a dirt bike and a quad up until that point. I did fine. Doesnt mean its a good idea to start out that big, but if you respect the power and take the time to learn proper technique you SHOULD be fine. Granted, starting out on a 250CC or 500CC bike is a better choice because you can spend more time learning proper technique over worrying about the power, but its all personal preference I guess
GLPStandard 5 months ago
My first bike was a ninja 650. Pretty fast and fun to ride but still gets almost the gas mileage that the 250 does
letemfall91 5 months ago
my first bike was a Ducati 900ss
xKiNgSx88x 5 months ago in playlist More videos from downshift83
600cc is a great bike to start on if you know self control.
600RRkid12 5 months ago
@krazcrip Suuuure spend thousands of dollars on a 600cc bike and then have it go down in value fast when you drop the bike. Better to buy a 250cc and learn how to take curves without stress than getting 600cc and then try not to crash by over rolling on the throttle.
Anavengertg 5 months ago
I agree with a fair few of your points, but I'd really not recommend getting a super sport to start off on. I ride a Kawasaki ninja 250, and I think it has plenty of power, sure, in a year or two I'll upgrade, but for now, I love it! I ride it hard, but treat it well. But of course, this is only my opinion.
dougaholic 6 months ago
@krazcrip you think i could start off on a 600? i have a dirtbike and ive riden a harley once before...do you think it would be too much or you think i would be able to handle it? (and considering it would be my first bike i would obviously be pretty safe and not go crazy on anything i get)
5NOOPY615 6 months ago
I started riding my 07 ZX6R a week ago and all I needed was 2 days of BRC course. At first I was paranoid of dropping it because it is a very heavy bike, but then I grew in to it and now i enjoy riding to work and just cruising around town.
SuperbD2009 6 months ago
My cousin got a 650R like 4 months ago and he has put like 4k miles on it already and is bored as hell with it I can ride circles around him. I would get a pure sportbike and stay away a sportcruiser if you like twisties at all
73LFord 6 months ago
I started on a gsxr750 also great bike, took a year off and today I just made my last payment on an 07 zzr600. I think you need to take a good looks at the kinda person you are, if you are gonna drive a new bike off the showroom floor and try to do wheelies on the way home you should start on a 250 but if your a sane person starting on any 750 or less sportbike is no prob.
73LFord 6 months ago
2:36 why should i listen to a guy who blows thru stop signs?
lost1n7found 7 months ago
@lost1n7found people blow through stop signs in their cars too =S no cars were coming... has nothing to do with having a motorcycle
blacksBlkS 6 months ago
Ninja 650R is the bike I would like to start on and grow into.
aoshima6566 7 months ago
Are you in Bremerton?
OMFGLAZERGUNPEW 7 months ago
@DubsIV yeah I agree 1000% personally I learn to ride on a 100cc off road bike, and I learned a lot. I still have a dirt bike but a 250 cc now I agree with your comment about "smaller bike" ..... not long ago I seen a new rider on a 1000cc, was scary they would hit the brakes pretty hard every time they took a corner, they were afraid to lean into corners ..... One of these days they will hit the brake a little too hard and land on their as just hope they don't get hurt too bad...
larasa007 7 months ago
mummy and daddy bought me a new bike.. but i'm only 16.. and i actually have a job getting $450 a month.. I'm just hoping they dont ask me to pay them back haah.
TheNoobishGamer 7 months ago
@tyler9603 hey man same here lol except I'm on the ninja still. Had to have a parent cosign just cause I didnt hhave credit yet. Always paying more than the minimum and hoping by the end of the year I can pay it off. And a gsxr 600 is what I'm wanting to. What year is yours?
angus27655 7 months ago
protip: dont take this guy's advice when buying your first bike.
you definately dont want to start out on a 600cc sport bike.
FabrezeFRESH 7 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH I like how you label yourself as a "Pro"...o_O
downshift83 7 months ago 31
@FabrezeFRESH I did and best decision I ever made
Drewballz00 7 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH i started on a gsxr600
Killer31st 6 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH It's his opinion, he can tell us to get a 1000cc as a first bike, does it mean we're going to do it?
"protip": don't take tips from people who can't read the description.
panterask8r14 5 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH your right, we all should start out on a 1300 hayabusa.
TheZoelzer2 4 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH i could teach a noob how to ride on a ducati desmosedici(AKA one of the most unforgiving and expensive bikes ever made)
Its not the bike...its how you go about learning.
MikeW259 4 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH its too late! i already took his advice! and guess what!? im still here! 2007 r6 was my first bike!
mrsmithcolin175 4 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH any thing under 1000 is pussy shit! going to track is pussy shit! starting on a 600 is pussy shit! if you saying people might kill them self by starting on a 600 or a 1000 you so retarded cuz it's possible to die with a 125!
start with what u like, no mater how noob you are! just get bicycle to learn how to balance your self and not fuckin fall like a bitch. and stop training people like a fuckin pussy! heh..I never bought and never would buy 600. 600 is 1000 wonna be!
KOSKESH43 3 months ago
@FabrezeFRESH dude i started on a 750 and only laid it down once and it wasnt even my fault i had a passenger lie to me and said she knew what she was doing
gokarter57275 3 weeks ago
I think the best option is a trial bike(250),becouse of a new rider usually don´t have much money so this kind of bikes are a nice option for novice.Are cheap,light,and if U crash... part are not usually very expensive,...Then you can buy a new bigger one with the certainty of leading a good base.
Ragoboo 7 months ago
how long have you been riding bro? and what kinda bike to you own if you dont mind me asking..
sjmobileelectronics 7 months ago
@Auzea thanks greatly appreciated.! Can't wait to ride Been wanting to ride ever since I could walk now I'm of age.! Unfortunatly I've had a set back nd can't ride till next year :(
DirtyDogDalton 7 months ago
the problem is that a new rider can't know his skill level...
he will probably find his own borders through crashing^^
He4rtRock 7 months ago
busa or bust.
alwaysanthony 7 months ago
YEs bro LOve and respect.
jinultimate 7 months ago
dude i love your streets where you live! their so bike friendly! where is this!?
ZEEK38JACK 7 months ago
I didn't realise that homosexuals got better mileage than heterosexuals. One more plus for that team!
graemelockieable 7 months ago
there is less traffic on these roads than in a North Korean village...
julianppp 7 months ago
i got my first bike in 2005 when i was 20. i went with a brand new ninja 250. i had my dad cosign with me on the loan and paid it off just shy of 2 years by making triple the minimum payments. that gave me excellent credit to get a loan for the GSXR600 I would get a year after paying off the 250. riding the 250 for three years was a great learning experience (i only dropped it once while i was still learning) and made getting the 600 that much sweeter (never dropped it once)
Tyler9603 7 months ago
and i am 17 nearly 18, i own a 150 cc yamaha R-15, and i respect it probably more than anything else i have, or don't have, thing is one factor i think you forgot to mention (cud see only upto 6 min. 13 sec.) is the amount of indulgence you have, a lot of people buy bikes for flash, and end up scraping just enough knowledge to keep it on two wheel, not more, and definitely not less, that is another factor which i think decides the kind of bike you should buy :)
rahuljainification 7 months ago
@rahuljainification I dont want to talk too much shit... about "respecting" a 150cc-cuz that's not the direction i want to go... anyway that exactly how i started-and learned along the way, bike's get scratched up- unfortunatly it's the game we play. Thankfuly there is a thing called "natual selection"...dont tell anyone...but thankfully it prevents said person from buying annother bike.=)KTRSD
downshift83 7 months ago
@downshift83 yeah, i live in india, and we don't have 600 ccs available, and the true performance bikes have a 100% excise duty, so a litre class sports bike costs. $ 32,000 on-road, and for india, two-wheeler segment is more about commuting than what it should be about, indulgence. Hence my bike is the best available sports bike. hence my respect. :P :D
rahuljainification 7 months ago
i don't know if u will consider it important or not, but in your speech there are too many gaps, please try to be more fluent as that will make it easier to grasp it if it remains in a flow.
rahuljainification 7 months ago
honda cbr 125
IIxSmgYxII 7 months ago
you hear that guys if you ride like a fucking homo ull get amazing gas mileage. hahaha very nice
peggysuebadgerlongji 8 months ago
if you ride like a homo ull get a better mileage lol. nice 1 downshift
peggysuebadgerlongji 8 months ago
well i did several things u mentioned wrong when i bought my first bike. 1st thing i did wrong was buy a used bike not knowing the condition and not knowing much about bikes. ( a month after getting the bike it seized up) 2nd thing wrong was getting a CBR1000 at 16 years old. and 3rd was underestimating the power of it.
wisky97 8 months ago
On the topic:
I first planned on buying a Suzuki SV650S. Didn't trust myself with the power from the 1000's, and thought the SV's V-twin would make up for a lot of the low/mid-torque you sacrifice with a 600cc.
I ended up buying a '00Triumph Daytona 955i that my uncle was selling, and I don't regret it at all!As you said: as long as you have respect for your bike, and the power it has, it's no problem. It scared me a bit at first, but I've gotten used to it now, and I'm having a blast on it!
IthyStopTakingMyName 8 months ago
@DubsIV depends on your size. I find smaller bikes a pain in the ass at 6'5.
Antifaith29 8 months ago
what do you like ?
R1
CBR1000RR or
Ducati 1098
BTW good vid
TheCashman007 8 months ago
I live in BC, Canada and when I first got my L (learners) @ age of 16 (im 18 now) I learned and rode my dads vstar 650 cruiser for a while. Then after a year of not riding I moved on to buy my own bike which I currently ride 2007 GSXR 600. To be honest it has all the power I ever will need. Unless your really nervous for your first bike you shouldnt bother with a 250. Learning on a 600 shouldnt be that hard and defenitly know your limits and later explore it when your ready.
GSXraja 8 months ago
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Hex13337 8 months ago
Thanx alot man. This vlog really helped me out.
R6bandit93 8 months ago
In Norway the age limit for a 1000cc is 21
mohalfur 8 months ago
@mohalfur
Not sure that's completely true.
It has nothing to do with the engine volume, but the poweroutput.
Also if you've taken the "intermediate licence" (allows you to ride bikes with up to 34hp) at the age of 18 (when it's first allowed) you get the "heavy licence" (no powerlimit) automatically after 2 years (when you turn 20).
If you don't take the "intermediate", you have to wait until your 21 to take the "heavy" one.
This is atleast what I've found out.
IthyStopTakingMyName 8 months ago
@IthyStopTakingMyName Everything you say is 100% true. Unfortunately I didn't do that(take intermediate licence) so Ill have to wait until Im 21. (The Norwegian government wants to take everything fun out of our lifes with the gas prices, laws and taxes)
mohalfur 8 months ago
@mohalfur
Couldn't agree more with you on the government part.. annoying really. Moving to Sweden gets more and more tempting..
I took the "light licence" when I was 16, and sort of forgot the "intermediate" when I turned 18, was busy taking my car licence, and being a "Russ"..
Taken the "heavy" one now though, feels great to be back on a bike again.
IthyStopTakingMyName 8 months ago
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apollo33 8 months ago
Damn Downie. This Vid was honest, to the point and very truthful. Made a lot of sense and I'm sure a ton of peeps got much from it. Very respectable Vlog. Hmmm Vlog.. we don't see many like this from you ha ha. Your usually entertaining not informing.
SuperDrake79 8 months ago
im 16 and i ride a ninja 250 09 black of coarse looks the best haha. i have a dirt bike so i know all the gears clutch all that shit anyway its a gooood starter ROAD bike but within 2 months i wanted more power now 5months on i am already saving to get a zx10 next year so start with a 250 then get a 600 3months later it would really help ALOT...and i ride with r1s ducati 1098s and such and they have never seen a rider as good as me on a 250 they go hard if you want them to.
saradominswordrule 8 months ago
Hey downshift I'm 17 years old 5'7" 155lbs nd wanna start riding. I have no motorcycle experience at all but been in love with bikes since i can remember! Also plan to take the msf course. But n.e ways enough babling. I'm looking into the gsxr 600 and r6. Ik u said just respect the bike nd you'll b fine which I believe I have plenty good since not to Fuck around cause its a dangerous ass hobby! But wat do u suggest in my case considering my age, size, and experience.?
DirtyDogDalton 8 months ago
@DirtyDogDalton Comes down to personal preference. Take a MSF course (most don't require you to own a motorcycle). Once done go to dealers and in your cause sit on ALL the 600cc classes, and pick the one you fit the most comfortable on.
Auzea 7 months ago
How much does a zx6r go for in the US because in Australia they are 16 to 17 thousand
peteninja24 8 months ago
@peteninja24 Hey mate, fellow aussie here. Go to bikepoint , you probably already know this but it cant hurt to tell ya anyway, you can find some pretty decent bikes for under 10 grand theese days. Just be sure to either check em out properly or take someone with you that knows a bit about the mechanical side of things on a bike.
Stay safe :)
Antifaith29 8 months ago
@peteninja24 Depends on the year. You can find 2010's here for $7,500.
Auzea 7 months ago
i always tell people to go to a dealer and sit on different brands and styles of bikes because what might feel good to you might not feel good to me. I like suzukis, i hate yamaha, they are just to small gor me and i feel very cramped, being a bigger buy suzuki, specificly gsxr's feel custom made for me. mo stiff wrists, sore backs, or numb fingers. Now what size you start with, is all up to you...just be smart and get something you wont outgrow to fast but nothing youll die on asap.
streetpunk99 8 months ago
doesnt make sense to buy a 250 ride for a summer say okay that thing sucks its slow i wanna upgrade, take a loss on it then dish out more cash for something better... spend it on something that you'll keep for a bit, at 18 bought a brand new gsxr 600 glad i didnt buy any smaller took it easy for the first couple weeks really learned how to ride now after a bit ill upgrade to a 1000
Morpheen999 8 months ago
drz
metronorthrr4life 8 months ago
i started on my friends rebel after the m license class. still deciding between sport and cruiser. no Harley of course. but yea after 3 hours i was red lining that lil rebel and basically had that thing mastered. so it was boring. i know a 250 sport bike would be more challenging but upgrade would be within a year at least.
burtonrider316 8 months ago
I agree with the statement that you'll want to upgrade from a 250 nearly right away. My friend started on a ninja 250 and bugs me weekly to ride my bike because I started on a 600. Might be a cheap bike, and accel in the twisties, but when it comes to a night ride on the open freeway, you're really going to get mad when you can't keep up with the speeding we like to do.
Demrush 8 months ago
Very informative vid for new upcoming riders, well done bro!
lampingromeo 8 months ago
i agree, with some brain power you can start on pretty much anything but from what i've seen and experianced and talk racers the general trend is that the ones who started on smaller bikes and worked they're way up are much better riders than the ones who started on big bikes
the best ones are the ones started when they were like 7 on 50cc dirt bikes cuz by the time they're 15-16 so that they could ride on the road they have 8-9 years of experiance already, and 17yr old who get a 600 has 0exp
TheTonicro 8 months ago
I dont subscribe to the "respect" thought camp. Many factors, but if you havent grown up riding/powersports stuff and you havent ridden passenger or anything you have NO idea what you are getting into, no matter the size engine. Understanding of the vehicle and how it "goes" is important. You can dump the clutch, grab too much brake, hit a false neutral and still go down because you didnt know what it was like until you actually do it yourself.
Jmoges 8 months ago
Do your research, talk to guys, learn your shit, then decide for yourself what the best bike is. If you base you choice solely off of what some guy on the internet who doesn't know you at all tells you, then maybe you should start on a scooter.
I will say though, that if you want to ride the absolute shit out of your first bike, then start on the smaller side. A bigger, more powerful bike is definitely harder to abuse and toss around when you're not sure what the hell you're doing.
heartlesspinto 8 months ago
I'm not a homo but I get good gas mileage :( lol
braceyoself777 8 months ago
people say its all in your head about being respectfull with it... that goes to shit onces you come into a corner too hot and there is a car on the other side of the road and you hit the gas on a 600 and it spits you off.
djsfilms1 8 months ago
yeah when i get my bike its either gunna be a honda cbr600rr , ktm 525 exc supermoto , or a yamaha wr450x supermoto.
michaelneedsthis 8 months ago
This is jsut me, but i'd rather start with a 125 even if I ended up shifting bikes in 6 months. Somethigns are better off starting really low.
DChotaz 8 months ago
I was looking into getting a Ninja 250, but right now I'm actually looking at the DRZ-400 SuperMoto. Fun, reliable, enough power, but not too much power. Perfect for a beginner.
iKnollex 8 months ago
All depends on the maturity level too
sk8infreek 8 months ago
More words from the wise.......good info, my friend. Definitely a bunch of info for first time buyers....never overdue it. Had an acquaintance byt a liter for his first.......thought his balls weighed 50 lbs and was over confident. Wrecked and now paralyzed from the waist down after 2 weeks of owning it. Under powered is always safe until your ready no matter what machine it is.
rynoride 8 months ago
Couldnt agree more on the respect for the bike part. I started out on a VTR 1000. Very fucking twitchy /torquey bike. Treated it like a baby while i was learning and didnt come off once, infact i didnt come off untill i downgraded to a smaller ( but newer) 600. It's great hearing my thoughts on the matter confirmed by someone else. I brought it up with M13 and the guy told me i was an idiot that got lucky. 11 years with one down and on a smaller bike at that? proves the point.
Antifaith29 8 months ago
@Antifaith29 M13 is right, you got lucky with the 1000 cc bike because you ended up going down later on with an even smaller bike that is easier to handle. You didn't actually have the skill that was needed (although you thought you did) which resulted in you crashing the 600 cc bike.
JacoPastorius99 8 months ago
@JacoPastorius99 No he wasnt right, i didnt drop the bike because i was sensable on it. Obviously you either dont ride or havnt been riding for long, pal. There are two kinds of riders, those that have been down and those that are going down. Skill level has nothing to do with it. had you read my post you would have noted id been riding 11 years now with ONE down. Thats a pretty fucking good average imo especialy considering the down was at a track.
Antifaith29 8 months ago
@Antifaith29 I have been riding motorcycles for 8 years. The reason everybody will go down is a result of other drivers out there and uncontrolled variables in your situation on the roads, not because everybody will have a little mess up on the twisties (due to lack of skill riding). That little saying doesn't give all riders an excuse for why they messed up and went down, it says that eventually, no matter how good you are, there are things that you cannot control that will cause you to fall.
JacoPastorius99 8 months ago
@JacoPastorius99 As i said, my one down was on a track. No cars on the road , fairly controlled environment, much the same as anyone else racing on a track that goes down. Now, i'm in no way saying im anywhere near as good as the pro riders but hey, they go down in much the same situations i did. Back to my first bike. I rode safe on it because i KNEW i didnt have the skill to push it hard and as such didnt do so untill i had developed the skill to do so. I rode safe and stayed safe. (cont)
Antifaith29 8 months ago
@JacoPastorius99 Iuck played no more part in it than had i been riding a smaller bike. At 6'5 and 265 lb the vtr was simply a better fit for me ( and even then it was a little small ) the 600 i race now feels like a fucking toy under me but the comp i ride in is restricted to such. My daily ride is a zx10 theese days. I'm done arguing the point with you , you're entitled to your opinion ofcourse but hey, even the guy making the vid here seems to have the same pov as i do and many others.
Antifaith29 8 months ago
glad you fixed the sound on the drift camera. sounds good, looks good
yanokid1234 8 months ago
Amazing topic. You must have just seen my 250 vs. 600 vid. Thanks for watching it.
SUPERZOG1 8 months ago
"Ride like a homo and you'll get amazing gas mileage" Can i quote you on that? haha, Anyway, great video , fab, sensible advice.
M3anMachin3 8 months ago
thanks a lot for this vlog!
mawolff23 8 months ago
lol u talk to me on facebook bout lookin at it as a toy or a daily driver. ya idnt think ill be doi canyon runs, idrove thru some, scary. lol.
djkkt52 8 months ago
"or a can am or some fn bull SS" we really laughed out loud.
spartanturtle333 8 months ago
It depends on your ego.
Seth6Strummer 8 months ago
your first motorcycle vid is my favorite. The fact that you talked about respecting the bike was awesome, i think that plays alot into owning a bike.
battlecry75 8 months ago
if you are like me and only like sports bikes i'd get a older 600. i got an older zx6r and it's perfect coz you can take it easy in low revs but when you get up past 11k it really shifts. i still feel happy with it after 8 months
sprinter223 8 months ago
Factor in INSURANCE cost for a bike before you buy one! New riders might pay as much (or MORE) than the bike payment itself in Insurance Premiums! Get quotes from as many companies as possible using the VIN# off of the prospective bike to avoid any price misquotes!
I was going to upgrade to a Ninja 650R (the Ninja 500's replacement), but found out that it cost MORE (almost $300.00 MORE per Year... In Fact) to insure than the YZF-600R I was also considering!
Better Bike 4 Less Ca$h IMHO!
LordTimelord 8 months ago
Ride like a homo and you'll get amazing gas mileage...haha that is funny.
ToastToGo 8 months ago
And anyone no much differnce between the yzf6/1 to say a gixer to a kawi or a cbr/rr comfort gearing faster? Better gas or matenice all would be great help
justkirby902x 8 months ago
So i was thinkin sense there high rev bikes a 1000 would last longer? Anyone no what would be best for that. Second of all im pretty tall 6'2 and i was on a buell 1300 and the bike felt so small. For size effin, sweet bike though lots of power. Ino it comes down to prefence for the right bike but what do i guys thinks a good size nothing less then a 600.
justkirby902x 8 months ago
Ive been driving a bike for the past 2 years and upgrading to either the 600 to 1000 class. 600 be perfect and 1000 ino i would have to respect it. Lookin at a 2003- a 2008 and either a cbr or kawi. Even the other jap bikes too. the 636 i herd is good. anywaz back to topick id be mostlydoing highway driving. So i was thinkin sense there high rev bikes a 1000 would last longer?
justkirby902x 8 months ago
@justkirby902x Supersports are meant to go fast, every 600 would last fine on the highway. It depends what you like, sit on both (whatever brand you choose), then pick. Realize that bikes are meant to be pushed to their limit, and they will all last just about every abuse you put it through. Unless your absolutely killing your engine by shifting wrong,etc.
Auzea 8 months ago
A lot of people forget about the expense of gear.
dazzelya 8 months ago 13
@dazzelya yea i never knew to think about the gear....im struggling to get good gear. ive dropped this peice of shit helmet i got for free with the bike like 7 times on complete accident. I finally got enough to buy a new one so i got the Icon Variant. gear is the most expensive part of a moto.
Birdcage67554 8 months ago
250 ninja
dejosse69 8 months ago
@DubsIV Yes that is very true.
futboleroR10 8 months ago
@DubsIV Exactly, you're only hurting yourself by going big right away. You will learn much faster on a smaller bike.
FuxYoFace 8 months ago
GSX-R 600 SRAD
0MS 8 months ago
Currently saving for a 250 cbr..
thewhitebloke 8 months ago
@thewhitebloke don't.
Originallsounds 8 months ago
i still ride my first bike lol
CB 600 F Hornet
i needed a good city bike.. something that i could get around in the city streets, with the trafic and stuff.. but also a bike that could do 120 miles when i go to the high way for a bit of fun =D
canis002 8 months ago
RESPECT! i like how u said that... cuz thats the truth u have to respect u bike or itll put u on ur ass
hjohns72 8 months ago
i am getting a 08 Aprilia SL 750 Shiver for my first bike i think i can do good with it
brianteague2000 8 months ago
Drz400sm. Im having a blast with it and insurance is 46 a month....im 18 and in Sf bay area.
bestvidsdottk 8 months ago
Also you can die on a 250 or a 1000, shit you can die by just walking out your house, so don't be sacred to get a bigger bike, but i wouldn't start on a 1000.
CaRan17171717 8 months ago