thanks for the satosfyingly relevant comment, mate. bloody fucking right! your intuitive insights are evident tyou stay thoroughly read and knowing yp to date of U.S. political news and stories.
i invite you to return anytime to respond to these Social Darwinist Christo-Fascist Anarcho-Capitalist Flat Earther tinfoil hat shit klicker rednecks.
Thanks, FoxMulder...I think you are the person who posted the 1934 coup video that clued me in on that...where would we be without the internet? I, and most no one in the US, had ever heard of that!! Something they conveniently forgot to teach us in school..like the atrocities committed in the name of the US...in the past AND today. For the benefit of our slavemasters, the CORPORATION.
Just as in 1934, the corporate elite are behind this crap.
Back then, a corpor. cabal along with the KKK manipulated WW I vets, who believed they were being denied bonuses by govt, into plotting a coup against FDR, cause his New Deal might have given jobs to blacks !egad! and they hated his attempts to regulate the corps.
The healthcare industry is manipulating the current crop of loonies.
Thanks, Bob..I wish some tv station would report on the 1934 coup attempt...maybe that would wake up some teabaggers..oops, what am I saying? It would have to be their ONLY station, Cluster Fox...and we know that ain't gonna happen
I've never defended any of those people. I don't defend people simply based on party affiliation.
That's pretty funny you added "Hollywood" in there. All us liberal elites stick together, right? Because everyone knows there are no wealthy republicans. They're strictly the party of the working class. What a joke.
Where were these rubes and their asinine protests when Bush signed Medicare part D? Thumbs up their assholes, probably.
They're so ignorant they would prefer for their tax money to be put DIRECTLY into the pockets of the richest people in America. Look what that did for the country.
If you're too stupid to have even a rudimentary grasp of the issue in question, stay at home and watch Fox News. That's what it's there for.
it's fear of crazy paranoid Flat Earther ignorant Redneck delusional conspiracy anti-government fear-mongers like you.
the fact is all Liberals support 2nd Amendment. nearly all Liberals I know, love guns. some of them are collectors and hunt. you wouldn't find many Liberals afraid of gun owners since gun ownership is common among us Liberals as well.
we're just smart how we handle guns. we know it doesn't mean it's okay to take guns everywhere.
this channel and my closest friends' channels have been surveilled and monitered by the FBI and Secret Service with our complete consent and approval for several months.
spoken like a loyal goose-stepping Nazi Fascist capitalist Party member. Seig Heil said the Nazis, German Liberty from the parasites sapping off of us, evil taxes by the Jews, economic crisis by evil Jewish Bankers and Socialists and Communists, "Inferior" Sick people, degenerate Immigrants and Labor Unions!
spoken like a loyal goose-stepping Nazi Fascist capitalist Party member. Seig Heil said the Nazis, German Liberty from the parasites sapping off of us, evil taxes by the Jews, economic crisis by evil Jewish Bankers and Socialists and Communists, "Inferior" Sick people, degenerate Immigrants and Labor Unions!
Does that mean every other country in the first world is run by nazis, then? American has socialized education, public works and a ton of other things. I guess that means America is socialist country!
Also, read up on the difference between national socialism, socialism, and communism. Hitler despised socialists and communists and had many of them executed as political prisoners.
but Far Right militias should fear retaliation massacre by counter forces.
sad time for deranged paranoid militias.
WE refuse to let history repeat from 1927-1933 Germany, as Nazis seized power.
We were there to stop it so Hitler failed by 1944.
this time, We're here NOW, AHEAD OF TIME, to stop Far Right militias, before history is changed toward Nazi Fascist Anarcho-Capitalist oppression like Germany.
WE see beyond, within patterns to stop Darkness oozing across the world again.
you cannot comprehend the forces against you + among US, to stop you.
forces in place beyond just U.S. + International Intel agencies + security keeping on eye on your groups + militias. but other groups you know nothing of.
WE will not tell you what these are. except one is VARCA. GI JOE comes to mind except very different.
but WE are quite ready for your Far Right militia.
you have nothing to fear of a "governt take over" or "power grab" from US.
. . . but . . . MINORITES, the Working Class POOR, the ELDERLY living LONG lives, IMMIGRANTS and other deserving EQUAL American HUMAN BEINGS will enjoy this High Quality cheap PUBLIC HEALTHCARE too!
but WE will keep YOU alive, healthy and happy too!
oh and btw . . . you will NOT stop us from getting Public Healthcare!
not only will WE WIN Public Healthcare, to keep alive the Sick, Chronically Ill, Disabled, "weak Genetically Inferior" (as you'd call them), YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE, alive and well, to enjoy this great High Quality cheap Healthcare, enjoying fantastic, fulfilling, worthwhile LONG lives, with Public Health, using YOUR TAXES partly to fund it, if you're millionaire or billionaire . . . but . . .
would you be man enough not just to defend me + others at a townhall or any public place, against violent extremists groups on Left but defend me + others even against Far Right Neo-Nazi or Libertarian militia guys trying to assault or kill us or Democratic officials for wanting to speak or civilly protest our Liberal views, if we didnt do anything against you?
would you team up with us against these attackers + not just us women but help the Liberal guys too for the sake of what's right?
i'd fight for your right to speak anywhere anytime + to protest outside or outside nearby doors to the townhall.
but not defend your right to yelling inside to disrupt civil public townhall meetings.
i'd defend your right to civilly ask questions or say what you think, without yelling it, when picked to speak, like everybody else.
i'd defend your right to hold protest signs in audience in townhall but not yelling or noise to drown out te speakers or others' right to speak + questions.
Freikorp WWI war veterans turned angry Nazi Militia groups + Nazi SA "protesters" were activated to ignite a fake astroturf revolution, funded by wealthiest German extreme Anarcho-Capitalists, wealthy families + companies, to seize power from German Social Democratic governt in 1933.
but WE have the perspective of seeing this time from beyond the threshold of time.
WE see the flow of time + events from outside. WE know the patterns + corridors of the ripples of time.
some may not be Racist, Nazi, Astroturf or Terrorist.
But it started out as AstroTurf + plenty of your "protesters" ARE these Racists, Neo-Nazis, Libertarian Tinfoil Hat Alex Jones Glenn Beck Timothy McVeigh Anti-governt conspiracy dipshit groups. 2/3.
now they have genuine people like you scared of things that arent true, joining them.
wow.... 2 minutes of nonstop "You work for us" and "hear our voice" and then they wonder why they closed the doors! lol!
Here's a hint: They closed the doors because all you were doing was yelling non-stop and trying to disrupt a meeting where people were /talking/ and /discussing/ an issue.
If these people wanted to talk and discuss the issue, that would be one thing, but just being disruptive doesn't help anybody.
FrieKorps + SA Nazi militia did exactly the strategy that these Protesters are using, in 1926-1933 Germany to disrupt civil public discussions by German Democrats, Labor Union leaders + Liberal parliament senators speaking publicly to tell what they're doing to alleviate economic crisis + provide financial relief to citizens. FrieKorps + SA brutally attacked Democrats, Liberals + Labor Union people,those years + murdered thousands even before Hitler seized power from German Liberal Democrats.
look up "Germany post World War I", "Freikorps", "SA Nazis", "Reichstag" + "German Democrats". you'll find additional weapons to use against them. knowledge + history is power. learning from history is extremely powerful. it can make or break how the path by which the future unfolds.
FrieKorp + SA were financed by wealthiest German Aristocrats, corporate CEOs, business execs, largest industry magnates + "racial genetically pure" "true" "Aryan" Germans with no Jewish or other "Inferior" blood. they financed them to disrupt German Liberals + Democrats from accomplishing policies + agendas.
FrieKorp + SA Nazi followers were told by German Aristocrats + Nazis that all Democrats + Liberals are Communist, Socialist + Jews in an evil Conspiracy + they must be stopped or killed.
1926-33, all German Liberals + Democrats were supported essentially by Intellectuals, Artists, college students, urban people, professors, professionals, doctors, scientists, Disabled,Catholics labor unions, minorities, Jews, active military + some veterans.
The NAZIS, Conservatives + other Far Right Capitalist Fascists were supported only by the wealthiest Germans, non-Jew German Business + Bankers + angry Rural ignorant Racist German "Rednecks", farmers + angry military veterans (FrieKorp)
Thanks but i already have a career. you're not my employer. i don't like your benefits package.
"You work for us!" is supposed to tell congress people that they work for the People.
but "You work for us!" sounds like what Private Health Insurance monopolies are saying to Democrats to remind them that they better bow to their dominance as Healthcare providers + use you as their mouthpiece or messenger of their threat to Democrats.
very Free Market Anarchy (Fascist) of you to use that script.
there are Theocratic REPUBLICS with a Supreme Religious Leader dictator with limited or no LIBERTY or DEMOCRACY but WITH Free Market CAPITALISM, like Saudi Arabia + other Islamic Republics.
do you need a longer seminar on Political Science 101?
likewise the way the Nazis took over, Nazis used same tactics as these Fake protesters, in the 1920's and early 1930's Germany, protesting against Labor Unions and German Democrats, who were in power until 1933.
Nazi "Brownshirt" assholes disrupted public activity and brutalized people prior to helping Hitler seize Authoritarian dictatorship from German Democrats.
Nazis were funded by the Wealthiest Few Right-wing, top industry corporate lobbyists and investors just like THESE Protesters!
i'm no "fucking nutter". but you're a misinformed wackadoodle.
i know the history + details of early 20th century a great deal better than you.
i have studied it deeply with history major friends + my close friend, a Historian. some family friends have grandparents from Germany at that time. they told of us. trust me, i know what is + isnt like these protesters. yes i can compare them to FreiKorps + SA Nazi militia + followers disrupting public Labor Union meetings in Germany in 1927-1932.
This country will continue to make it without socialized medicine. They only want to add another option, with cheaper premiums, much like medicare and the VA. You are one of the one's that didn't realize medicare and the VA were government ran, aren't you? Did you know that medicare has 1-3% overhead, while private insurance is 15-25%. Are you thinking yet? You do realize that for the millions uninsured, if they go to the hospital ALL taxpayers will be paing for it? Talk about delusional.
You are wrong my friend maybe in a perfect world with no hidden agenda's you might be right.you ever been to the VA I have, they want to push out private ins,Yes they charge wayyyyy tooo much your right,making mney hand over fist but, they should make the ins comp, take on the rest of the un insured and the gov should pick up the tab.group dicount! Get rid of all illegals including the ones in jail we pay 40 grand a year for .close the border. and you will have the money to pay for it!
FUCK OFF, Free Market Fascist Nazi Authoritarian kraut!
you're a Social Darwinist, for "Survival of the Genetically Fittest + Healthiest" + Prejudice against the Sick + Chronically Ill YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE, who need High quality Public Healthcare badly!
you want them to DIE OFF! your Inhuman Predatory mind sees them as "Genetically Inferior", "Weak Parasites", "waste of money + space" on the "Free Market", the way Nazis killed off Disabled + Sick people thru German Nazi Capitalism.
The Healthy don't have to worry about Healthcare but YOUNG SINGLE people with Chronic illness, by no fault of theirs, require in ethical moral society.
your way is Anti-American, Anti-Democratic, Nazi Free Market Capitalist Predatory, let the "Weak Inferiors" DIE OFF so "Superior Strong" get it all. You're despicable defense of Wealthiest Anglo-Germanic-Norman "Pure" "Survival of the Fittest". only "Predatory Strong successful" deserve good health + life!
You don't pay attention much, do you? Show us the part of the bill that is going to make the eldely die. Sorry, NOT ANYWHERE in the bill is there a such thing, ONLY they mention the coverage includes the cost of a living will. That is it! Maybe you are thrilled that your insurance premiums will be going up again next year, but the majoity are not. It is fine if you want to get all your information from fox news, but do your integrity a favor and research the truth first. And you call us stupid?
sorry for any insults on your spelling. i appreciate your courtesy and polite civility. but i have read and heard every conspiracy theory and conspiracy notion. i used to believe some of it.
then i opened my eyes and escaped the tyranny of my mind stuck in the hell of paranoia, fear and cynicism of the world. it only lasted a year but i stayed a Liberal somehow thru it all.
strange. it was a Liberal version of conspiracy delusion. you can't tell me anything i haven't heard or considered before
the electrical storms in your head are making you see animated creatures dancing. you delusional tinfoil hat dipshit!
Healthy people don't have to worry about it so much but people with illnesses chronic or otherwise, by no fault of theirs, require it as the ethical moral way of a Democratic society.
your way is Anti-American, Anti-Democratic, in defense of the Wealthiest Few Anglo-Germanic-Norman "Pure" "Survival of the Fittest and Healthiest" "the Strong over the Weak" Nazi way.
i see you can't contemplate beyond the paranoid rage, batshit conspiracy lunacy and false assumptions and delusions in the swirling stupidity of your Twilight Zone Disneyland NASCAR Redneck Unreality reality.
so who funds you? Blue Cross - Blue Shield? Aetna? Pfizer? Bayer?
the electrical storms in your head you disrupting your brain,dumbass.
hi, Insurance lobbyist. you have a good healthy day now. bye!
No, moron, they underestimate utter ignorance, instability and mentally challenged appaplectic among us.
you're so appaplecticly enraged because . . . well nobody really knows. it's so Twilight Zone lunatic.
oh you're confused with misplaced rage because a Black President makes your head explode. the horror! You want "your (Whites Only) Country" back, dagnabbit!
"Scientology 101"? wtf? jaw-droppingly dumb.
you mean "Statistics 101"? Scientology is this crazy ass religion . . . nevermind.
These are like the nutters on the Sidewalk to Nowhere vids from the McCain campaign. This isn't public discourse, it's disorderly conduct and they should have been hauled out of there by the police.
Any anarchist on a corporate made computer, on a globalist communications network, using energy acquired from a massive energy conglomerate is a joke. I used to believe I was "anarchist" but then i grew up and accepted that collectivism was the best form of social structure; one that inherently benefits members of its communities. Though I don't believe we'll have true collectivism, at least I'll settle with America truly embodying the need to benefit all peoples of the world
i am not a Collectivist or Socialist. but i like your ideas and thanks for the comments. we don't agree since i'm a Liberal and Social Democrat and i want Keynesian mixed economic regulated Free Market Capitalism like they have in France and Germany and Britain.
but i'd rather have a drink with a Communist or Socialist than a Right-winger. because i like to gravitate toward fellow Intellectuals and not dipshit tinfoil hat Rednecks.
Maybe if they put on black masks and destroyed some private property the left would think more of these protesters. The fact is, these protests are organized by regular citizens. The anti-war rallies, on the other hand, were organized by the Stalinist group ANSWER.
Nice personal insult. These protestors are organized citizens, just like any other grievance group in America. They are outraged at what their government is doing. Compare them to the anti-war protests, organized by the Stalinist ANSWER, featuring black masked anarchists destroying private property. It seems to me these protestors are behaving in a far more civil manner than their counterparts on the left.
The modern "anarchists" are really just Marxists, only they distrust the state. They prefer a local variety of totalitarianism. And of course both groups have a common enemy - democratic capitalism.
Why should I put on a mask? I am proud of what I believe in and I don't need to break any laws to express myself.
Contrary to all your stereotypes, I live in a giant city, I don't work for a giant corporation, and I am educated.
It doesn't take a brave man to insult someone over the internet.
wtf? do you even know what a Stalinist is? how it differs from other Communists like Trotskyist, Leninist, Council or Maoist? how it differs from various kinds of Socialism and various kinds of Capitalism either Laissez-Faire Gold Standard Capitalism or Keynesian regulated mixed economic Free Market Capitalism or De-regulated Capitalism even? the historyies of how each devloped and their relevance?
take classes on History and Political Science before saying astoundingly deranged and lunatic!
well said, Rodeo. you sound like a REAL Texan rodeo Cowboy, Clint Eastwood style. Hehe.
i don't think that these Rednecks represent genuine Texan ways. i know tons of intelligent Texans, don't worry. i'm assuming you're Texan because of the rodeo name. sorry. but i mean it in a good way.
Thanks Fox. I'm not a Texan however, nor am I as cool as Clint. I just hate to see a long overdue debate about a serious subject derailed by spoliators without a clue as to the subject.
Bunch of inbred fucking tea bagging jackasses. We need to move all these right wing morons to Texas and force the state to secede from the US. I'm so sick and tired of these imbecile conservatives dumbing down the country.
A clear majority of Americans -- 72 percent -- support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans.
Read The Rubicon. This type of event became quite common at the forum. Civility between citizens declined to open air conflict and shoutdowns near the final 100 years before a monarchy was installed by Octavius.
likewise the way the Nazis took over, Nazis used same tactics as these Fake protesters, in the 1920's and early 1930's Germany, protesting against Labor Unions and German Democrats, who were in power until 1933.
Nazi "Brownshirt" assholes disrupted public activity and brutalized people prior to helping Hitler seize Authoritarian dictatorship from German Democrats.
Nazis were funded by the Wealthiest Few Right-wing, top industry corporate lobbyists and investors just like THESE Protesters!
Wasn't it just recently that the leader of the conservative family values party, Rush Limbaugh, called liberals a bunch of brown shirts? He mumbles, they listen, so if he said it it must be true. And they call us sheep, very funny stuff.
Forked tongue spin its all the same and the very greedy are still using the same tactics to keep control. How many of those protesters know that the first slaves to reach the good ole USA were white? How many of them had their ancestors convert to Christianity because the religious leaders of the time said you cant enslave Christians?
It is too easy to spin the truth and get others to do the bidding for the rich. Shutting down a meeting is not democracy in action! Debate honest debate is. Stop coming into the situation with the thought that you must win not matter what and debate! Yes your voice needs to be heard but you are brainwashed! You need to be deprogrammed. You need to think for yourself! God or the Great Spirit however you wish to say it gave you the ability to think start thinking!
SHUT THE FUCK UP, morons
615Deathdealer 1 year ago
@615Deathdealer
who are you talking to?
FoxMulderXFOxx 1 year ago
@FoxMulderXFOxx The teabaggers
615Deathdealer 1 year ago
i "hear your voices" but you ain't sayin' anything intelligent!
unixd0rk 1 year ago
@unixd0rk
what comment are you responding to? what are you saying?
FoxMulderXFOxx 1 year ago
Fukkkkkkkkkkkkk Ron Paul!
GypsyKing7 2 years ago
Looking on from the UK this seems crazy.
stupid people, right wing propaganda, inequality as a banner.
Ron Paul is the worst part of the corp lobby
He even says he wants doctor 'rights' not to treat poor people.
He wants the poor literally die in pain and agony.
Notice how he always dresses things up so they can be read both ways.
what about the right to a dying person to pain relief ?
Ron Paul is even against human dignity in death.
He is the nastiest part of the elites, corp and oil lobby.
marsCubed 2 years ago
thanks for the satosfyingly relevant comment, mate. bloody fucking right! your intuitive insights are evident tyou stay thoroughly read and knowing yp to date of U.S. political news and stories.
i invite you to return anytime to respond to these Social Darwinist Christo-Fascist Anarcho-Capitalist Flat Earther tinfoil hat shit klicker rednecks.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
Thanks, FoxMulder...I think you are the person who posted the 1934 coup video that clued me in on that...where would we be without the internet? I, and most no one in the US, had ever heard of that!! Something they conveniently forgot to teach us in school..like the atrocities committed in the name of the US...in the past AND today. For the benefit of our slavemasters, the CORPORATION.
zenbrenzz 2 years ago
Good New Healthcare Bill passes U.S. House
Yea-220 Ney-215
BUBBASIMS 2 years ago
Just as in 1934, the corporate elite are behind this crap.
Back then, a corpor. cabal along with the KKK manipulated WW I vets, who believed they were being denied bonuses by govt, into plotting a coup against FDR, cause his New Deal might have given jobs to blacks !egad! and they hated his attempts to regulate the corps.
The healthcare industry is manipulating the current crop of loonies.
zenbrenzz 2 years ago
How we forget such recent history.
AtomicBobBomb 2 years ago
Thanks, Bob..I wish some tv station would report on the 1934 coup attempt...maybe that would wake up some teabaggers..oops, what am I saying? It would have to be their ONLY station, Cluster Fox...and we know that ain't gonna happen
zenbrenzz 2 years ago
Zen Brenzz, thank you for your pleasing comments. ;-j
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
I've never defended any of those people. I don't defend people simply based on party affiliation.
That's pretty funny you added "Hollywood" in there. All us liberal elites stick together, right? Because everyone knows there are no wealthy republicans. They're strictly the party of the working class. What a joke.
VesusSheist 2 years ago
Where were these rubes and their asinine protests when Bush signed Medicare part D? Thumbs up their assholes, probably.
They're so ignorant they would prefer for their tax money to be put DIRECTLY into the pockets of the richest people in America. Look what that did for the country.
If you're too stupid to have even a rudimentary grasp of the issue in question, stay at home and watch Fox News. That's what it's there for.
VesusSheist 2 years ago
That was directed at StoogeWatcher
granulorhoek 2 years ago
Now the liberal fascists are whining about disruption? Aren't these the same Dumbocrats who defended CodePink?
And why is the left totally silent on fake doctors Roxana Mayer and Sheila Leavitt and all those Obama plants?
StoogeWatcher 2 years ago
who told you they are Obama plants? Glenn Beck?
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
it's not fear of 2nd Amendment, nutjob.
it's fear of crazy paranoid Flat Earther ignorant Redneck delusional conspiracy anti-government fear-mongers like you.
the fact is all Liberals support 2nd Amendment. nearly all Liberals I know, love guns. some of them are collectors and hunt. you wouldn't find many Liberals afraid of gun owners since gun ownership is common among us Liberals as well.
we're just smart how we handle guns. we know it doesn't mean it's okay to take guns everywhere.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
this channel and my closest friends' channels have been surveilled and monitered by the FBI and Secret Service with our complete consent and approval for several months.
watch what you say, shithead.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
spoken like a loyal goose-stepping Nazi Fascist capitalist Party member. Seig Heil said the Nazis, German Liberty from the parasites sapping off of us, evil taxes by the Jews, economic crisis by evil Jewish Bankers and Socialists and Communists, "Inferior" Sick people, degenerate Immigrants and Labor Unions!
Nazis are the party for you!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
spoken like a loyal goose-stepping Nazi Fascist capitalist Party member. Seig Heil said the Nazis, German Liberty from the parasites sapping off of us, evil taxes by the Jews, economic crisis by evil Jewish Bankers and Socialists and Communists, "Inferior" Sick people, degenerate Immigrants and Labor Unions!
Nazis are the party for you!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
So was the the Soviet Union
Thedayrecker 2 years ago
You're an idiot.
Does that mean every other country in the first world is run by nazis, then? American has socialized education, public works and a ton of other things. I guess that means America is socialist country!
Also, read up on the difference between national socialism, socialism, and communism. Hitler despised socialists and communists and had many of them executed as political prisoners.
NaturalGrace 2 years ago
"Four legs good, two legs bad"
This is how democracy dies. Drowned out by morons who don't know anything
Thedayrecker 2 years ago
but Far Right militias should fear retaliation massacre by counter forces.
sad time for deranged paranoid militias.
WE refuse to let history repeat from 1927-1933 Germany, as Nazis seized power.
We were there to stop it so Hitler failed by 1944.
this time, We're here NOW, AHEAD OF TIME, to stop Far Right militias, before history is changed toward Nazi Fascist Anarcho-Capitalist oppression like Germany.
WE see beyond, within patterns to stop Darkness oozing across the world again.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
we'll stop your fake revolution.
you cannot comprehend the forces against you + among US, to stop you.
forces in place beyond just U.S. + International Intel agencies + security keeping on eye on your groups + militias. but other groups you know nothing of.
WE will not tell you what these are. except one is VARCA. GI JOE comes to mind except very different.
but WE are quite ready for your Far Right militia.
you have nothing to fear of a "governt take over" or "power grab" from US.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
. . . but . . . MINORITES, the Working Class POOR, the ELDERLY living LONG lives, IMMIGRANTS and other deserving EQUAL American HUMAN BEINGS will enjoy this High Quality cheap PUBLIC HEALTHCARE too!
but WE will keep YOU alive, healthy and happy too!
but WE will STOP your fake revolution!
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
oh and btw . . . you will NOT stop us from getting Public Healthcare!
not only will WE WIN Public Healthcare, to keep alive the Sick, Chronically Ill, Disabled, "weak Genetically Inferior" (as you'd call them), YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE, alive and well, to enjoy this great High Quality cheap Healthcare, enjoying fantastic, fulfilling, worthwhile LONG lives, with Public Health, using YOUR TAXES partly to fund it, if you're millionaire or billionaire . . . but . . .
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
would you be man enough not just to defend me + others at a townhall or any public place, against violent extremists groups on Left but defend me + others even against Far Right Neo-Nazi or Libertarian militia guys trying to assault or kill us or Democratic officials for wanting to speak or civilly protest our Liberal views, if we didnt do anything against you?
would you team up with us against these attackers + not just us women but help the Liberal guys too for the sake of what's right?
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
i'd fight for your right to speak anywhere anytime + to protest outside or outside nearby doors to the townhall.
but not defend your right to yelling inside to disrupt civil public townhall meetings.
i'd defend your right to civilly ask questions or say what you think, without yelling it, when picked to speak, like everybody else.
i'd defend your right to hold protest signs in audience in townhall but not yelling or noise to drown out te speakers or others' right to speak + questions.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
We see + will stop your kind from any coup against U.S. government.
WE are unseen + beyond reproach.
think you suffer a power grab?
you're wrong.
it is YOUR KIND planning a power grab. We know what's going to happen.
You'll try.
but you will fail, this time + every attempt in your future.
we will, at every moment in near future, stop you.
too many millions of lives of sick people cured, are at stake, who grow up to become great people. too many times ahead to allow them to be lost.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
Freikorp WWI war veterans turned angry Nazi Militia groups + Nazi SA "protesters" were activated to ignite a fake astroturf revolution, funded by wealthiest German extreme Anarcho-Capitalists, wealthy families + companies, to seize power from German Social Democratic governt in 1933.
but WE have the perspective of seeing this time from beyond the threshold of time.
WE see the flow of time + events from outside. WE know the patterns + corridors of the ripples of time.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
you havent awoken a "sleeping giant".
but awakened Far Right militia groups.
you activated dangerous Far Right Neo-Nazi militia groups + BlackWater Inc. private paramilitary to get involved supporting you, violently.
exactly what happened in Germany 1927-1932. Freikorp + SA Far Right Nazi militia.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
some may not be Racist, Nazi, Astroturf or Terrorist.
But it started out as AstroTurf + plenty of your "protesters" ARE these Racists, Neo-Nazis, Libertarian Tinfoil Hat Alex Jones Glenn Beck Timothy McVeigh Anti-governt conspiracy dipshit groups. 2/3.
now they have genuine people like you scared of things that arent true, joining them.
there is no "sleeping giant" awakened.
you know history so poorly.
you are doomed to repeat it.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
you know little of history.
you allow yourself to be bent toward turbulent eddy in the river of time instead of fighting it.
you're fearful, paranoid + weak, failing to understand complex realities around you + refuse to use your mind to see thru distortions.
you just dont get it. but your lack of knowledge is in a time we cant change.
but WE WILL CHANGE what we can to stop your forces of darkness, slime of humanity Fascist revolution from marching across the face of the world again.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
Man... and I feel sorry for that cop at the end too.
velcroboy60000 2 years ago
wow.... 2 minutes of nonstop "You work for us" and "hear our voice" and then they wonder why they closed the doors! lol!
Here's a hint: They closed the doors because all you were doing was yelling non-stop and trying to disrupt a meeting where people were /talking/ and /discussing/ an issue.
If these people wanted to talk and discuss the issue, that would be one thing, but just being disruptive doesn't help anybody.
velcroboy60000 2 years ago
FrieKorps + SA Nazi militia did exactly the strategy that these Protesters are using, in 1926-1933 Germany to disrupt civil public discussions by German Democrats, Labor Union leaders + Liberal parliament senators speaking publicly to tell what they're doing to alleviate economic crisis + provide financial relief to citizens. FrieKorps + SA brutally attacked Democrats, Liberals + Labor Union people,those years + murdered thousands even before Hitler seized power from German Liberal Democrats.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
Yikes... alright, you've made your point.
velcroboy60000 2 years ago
why "Yikes!" ? you didnt like my comments?
i gave you very useful historical information you can use against these protesters.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
look up "Germany post World War I", "Freikorps", "SA Nazis", "Reichstag" + "German Democrats". you'll find additional weapons to use against them. knowledge + history is power. learning from history is extremely powerful. it can make or break how the path by which the future unfolds.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
FrieKorp + SA were financed by wealthiest German Aristocrats, corporate CEOs, business execs, largest industry magnates + "racial genetically pure" "true" "Aryan" Germans with no Jewish or other "Inferior" blood. they financed them to disrupt German Liberals + Democrats from accomplishing policies + agendas.
FrieKorp + SA Nazi followers were told by German Aristocrats + Nazis that all Democrats + Liberals are Communist, Socialist + Jews in an evil Conspiracy + they must be stopped or killed.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
1926-33, all German Liberals + Democrats were supported essentially by Intellectuals, Artists, college students, urban people, professors, professionals, doctors, scientists, Disabled,Catholics labor unions, minorities, Jews, active military + some veterans.
The NAZIS, Conservatives + other Far Right Capitalist Fascists were supported only by the wealthiest Germans, non-Jew German Business + Bankers + angry Rural ignorant Racist German "Rednecks", farmers + angry military veterans (FrieKorp)
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
Thanks but i already have a career. you're not my employer. i don't like your benefits package.
"You work for us!" is supposed to tell congress people that they work for the People.
but "You work for us!" sounds like what Private Health Insurance monopolies are saying to Democrats to remind them that they better bow to their dominance as Healthcare providers + use you as their mouthpiece or messenger of their threat to Democrats.
very Free Market Anarchy (Fascist) of you to use that script.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
It IS WRONG to want to hurt them with deadly weapons!
it's okay to wish you could beat the shit out of them but no permanent damage. but even that'd be unwise.
they can be removed for disorderly conduct, if security sees coodinated assault, hijacking + intimidation of a civil venue so security kicks them out.
it's okay to tell them, "shut up, ask a question or leave". they're victims too, of ignorance + disinformation. they dont deserve severe punishment.
friendly persuasion, if they listen!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
there are Theocratic REPUBLICS with a Supreme Religious Leader dictator with limited or no LIBERTY or DEMOCRACY but WITH Free Market CAPITALISM, like Saudi Arabia + other Islamic Republics.
do you need a longer seminar on Political Science 101?
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
there were REPUBLICS with NO LIBERTY or DEMOCRACY but WITH Free Market CAPITALISM. they were Fascist (Capitalist Anarchy) Dictatorship.
. . . like Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy, Hirohito's Japan in 1920's-1940's + Augusto Pinochet's Chile, in 1970's.
they were Far Right Capitalist Anarchy Dictatorships with NO LIBERTY but still very FREE MARKET.
there were Communist, Socialist + Marxist Republics in USSR + Eastern Bloc. U-nited S-oviet S-ocialist R-EPUBLIC.
Asian Communist REPUBLICS today.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
WE, the People of the U.S. of America are defined as a "Liberal Representative Constitutional Democratic Republic".
a REPUBLIC only because we had the American Revolutionary War, kicked British Royalist ass + said "suck on it" to King George of Britain.
Yes, the U.S. is properly classified as DEMOCRATIC.
this means a REPUBLIC can exist without LIBERTY + when it does, it's a DICTATORSHIP, even if it has Free Market Capitalism!
but that Capitalism is always Far Right Fascism!
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
You're WRONG, dumbass!
We are only a "Republic" in the very generic sense.
any kind of government that is .. . NOT a Monarchy . . . with a ruling Royal family by "Divine Right" "bloodlines", is a Republic.
EVERY country with no MONARCHY is a REPUBLIC even with NO LIBERTY or Constitution!
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
likewise the way the Nazis took over, Nazis used same tactics as these Fake protesters, in the 1920's and early 1930's Germany, protesting against Labor Unions and German Democrats, who were in power until 1933.
Nazi "Brownshirt" assholes disrupted public activity and brutalized people prior to helping Hitler seize Authoritarian dictatorship from German Democrats.
Nazis were funded by the Wealthiest Few Right-wing, top industry corporate lobbyists and investors just like THESE Protesters!
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago 2
You are a fucking nutter you know that right?
You shouldn't compare these people to how Nazi's operated because it wasn't the same.
SourceCode2006 2 years ago
i'm no "fucking nutter". but you're a misinformed wackadoodle.
i know the history + details of early 20th century a great deal better than you.
i have studied it deeply with history major friends + my close friend, a Historian. some family friends have grandparents from Germany at that time. they told of us. trust me, i know what is + isnt like these protesters. yes i can compare them to FreiKorps + SA Nazi militia + followers disrupting public Labor Union meetings in Germany in 1927-1932.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
This country will continue to make it without socialized medicine. They only want to add another option, with cheaper premiums, much like medicare and the VA. You are one of the one's that didn't realize medicare and the VA were government ran, aren't you? Did you know that medicare has 1-3% overhead, while private insurance is 15-25%. Are you thinking yet? You do realize that for the millions uninsured, if they go to the hospital ALL taxpayers will be paing for it? Talk about delusional.
DisturbedInOhio 2 years ago 2
You are wrong my friend maybe in a perfect world with no hidden agenda's you might be right.you ever been to the VA I have, they want to push out private ins,Yes they charge wayyyyy tooo much your right,making mney hand over fist but, they should make the ins comp, take on the rest of the un insured and the gov should pick up the tab.group dicount! Get rid of all illegals including the ones in jail we pay 40 grand a year for .close the border. and you will have the money to pay for it!
MrHr1207 2 years ago
FUCK OFF, Free Market Fascist Nazi Authoritarian kraut!
you're a Social Darwinist, for "Survival of the Genetically Fittest + Healthiest" + Prejudice against the Sick + Chronically Ill YOUNG SINGLE PEOPLE, who need High quality Public Healthcare badly!
you want them to DIE OFF! your Inhuman Predatory mind sees them as "Genetically Inferior", "Weak Parasites", "waste of money + space" on the "Free Market", the way Nazis killed off Disabled + Sick people thru German Nazi Capitalism.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
The Healthy don't have to worry about Healthcare but YOUNG SINGLE people with Chronic illness, by no fault of theirs, require in ethical moral society.
your way is Anti-American, Anti-Democratic, Nazi Free Market Capitalist Predatory, let the "Weak Inferiors" DIE OFF so "Superior Strong" get it all. You're despicable defense of Wealthiest Anglo-Germanic-Norman "Pure" "Survival of the Fittest". only "Predatory Strong successful" deserve good health + life!
"Strong dominate the Weak" Nazi way.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago
You don't pay attention much, do you? Show us the part of the bill that is going to make the eldely die. Sorry, NOT ANYWHERE in the bill is there a such thing, ONLY they mention the coverage includes the cost of a living will. That is it! Maybe you are thrilled that your insurance premiums will be going up again next year, but the majoity are not. It is fine if you want to get all your information from fox news, but do your integrity a favor and research the truth first. And you call us stupid?
DisturbedInOhio 2 years ago 2
sorry for any insults on your spelling. i appreciate your courtesy and polite civility. but i have read and heard every conspiracy theory and conspiracy notion. i used to believe some of it.
then i opened my eyes and escaped the tyranny of my mind stuck in the hell of paranoia, fear and cynicism of the world. it only lasted a year but i stayed a Liberal somehow thru it all.
strange. it was a Liberal version of conspiracy delusion. you can't tell me anything i haven't heard or considered before
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
the electrical storms in your head are making you see animated creatures dancing. you delusional tinfoil hat dipshit!
Healthy people don't have to worry about it so much but people with illnesses chronic or otherwise, by no fault of theirs, require it as the ethical moral way of a Democratic society.
your way is Anti-American, Anti-Democratic, in defense of the Wealthiest Few Anglo-Germanic-Norman "Pure" "Survival of the Fittest and Healthiest" "the Strong over the Weak" Nazi way.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
i see you can't contemplate beyond the paranoid rage, batshit conspiracy lunacy and false assumptions and delusions in the swirling stupidity of your Twilight Zone Disneyland NASCAR Redneck Unreality reality.
so who funds you? Blue Cross - Blue Shield? Aetna? Pfizer? Bayer?
the electrical storms in your head you disrupting your brain,dumbass.
hi, Insurance lobbyist. you have a good healthy day now. bye!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
before you compare anybody to Nazis, learn Accurate HISTORY of what Nazis were, their political and economic system and what they did!
They were Right-wing Free Market Capitalist Anarchy Fascist Plutocrat Social Darwinists.
they had CAPITALIST DIctatorship with Free Market, De-regulation of business,Privatization of nearly everything publicly owned by government.
FASCIST Dictatorship = Right-wing Capitalism
SOCIALIST Dictatorship = Left-wing Collectivism
they're polar opposite, dumbass!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
SEIU is going down? really? with you leading what army or militia, you brain dead Right-wing Libertarian Nazi Fascist Social Darwinist Racist fucker?
you aren't leading anything but Jack and Shuit.
and Jack left town.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
No, moron, they underestimate utter ignorance, instability and mentally challenged appaplectic among us.
you're so appaplecticly enraged because . . . well nobody really knows. it's so Twilight Zone lunatic.
oh you're confused with misplaced rage because a Black President makes your head explode. the horror! You want "your (Whites Only) Country" back, dagnabbit!
"Scientology 101"? wtf? jaw-droppingly dumb.
you mean "Statistics 101"? Scientology is this crazy ass religion . . . nevermind.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
These are like the nutters on the Sidewalk to Nowhere vids from the McCain campaign. This isn't public discourse, it's disorderly conduct and they should have been hauled out of there by the police.
MeMeMe413 2 years ago 2
where is the pepper spray when you need it
tank1229 2 years ago 2
i like your comment. Hehe. how about tazers?
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
These people are to stupid to know that medicare is a government run health care program. Maybe they should be arguing aginst it too.
Caribman75 2 years ago 3
Any anarchist on a corporate made computer, on a globalist communications network, using energy acquired from a massive energy conglomerate is a joke. I used to believe I was "anarchist" but then i grew up and accepted that collectivism was the best form of social structure; one that inherently benefits members of its communities. Though I don't believe we'll have true collectivism, at least I'll settle with America truly embodying the need to benefit all peoples of the world
badreligion 2 years ago 3
i am not a Collectivist or Socialist. but i like your ideas and thanks for the comments. we don't agree since i'm a Liberal and Social Democrat and i want Keynesian mixed economic regulated Free Market Capitalism like they have in France and Germany and Britain.
but i'd rather have a drink with a Communist or Socialist than a Right-winger. because i like to gravitate toward fellow Intellectuals and not dipshit tinfoil hat Rednecks.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
Warning] obama is sending out the thugs to these town hall meetings to oppress the real peoples voices don't let them! United We Stand!
MrHr1207 2 years ago
FUCK OFF, Right-wing Social Darwinist Libertarian Neo-Nazi!
You're PREJUDICE against Sick People who need Public Healthcare.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
Maybe if they put on black masks and destroyed some private property the left would think more of these protesters. The fact is, these protests are organized by regular citizens. The anti-war rallies, on the other hand, were organized by the Stalinist group ANSWER.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
THESE PROTESTS COME FROM:
- Insurance Co. Funding
- Big Pharma
- Fox News
The people that show up at them are generally already on government health care, are GOP shills, and don't want any type of civil discourse.
Maybe if these people presented an educated argument the entire country wouldn't be LAUGHING IN THEIR FACES RIGHT NOW!
You lost the presidency, the senate, and the congress - so sit back and enjoy the ride like we had to through bush sr and bush jr.
Asshole.
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SourceCode2006 2 years ago 2
Nice personal insult. These protestors are organized citizens, just like any other grievance group in America. They are outraged at what their government is doing. Compare them to the anti-war protests, organized by the Stalinist ANSWER, featuring black masked anarchists destroying private property. It seems to me these protestors are behaving in a far more civil manner than their counterparts on the left.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
Why don't you put on a black mask and go do some shit. It's not like we don't have room for more fucking morons in our prison systems.
Anarchists are liberals now? Gee Jeff, have you been drinking paint thinner or are you just this stupid?
SourceCode2006 2 years ago 3
The modern "anarchists" are really just Marxists, only they distrust the state. They prefer a local variety of totalitarianism. And of course both groups have a common enemy - democratic capitalism.
Why should I put on a mask? I am proud of what I believe in and I don't need to break any laws to express myself.
Contrary to all your stereotypes, I live in a giant city, I don't work for a giant corporation, and I am educated.
It doesn't take a brave man to insult someone over the internet.
jeffmagic32 2 years ago
Nobody for Barack Obama or any Liberals are "Marxist", douchebag!
"Democratic Capitalism"?
the two are NOT mutually exclusive compatible or inseparable. you're so dense i can't even scratch the surface without a power chisel.
Capitalism is provided by government. we had Democracy 100 yrs without Capitalism, before it arrived 1890's.
Democracy has several forms. Capitalism too.
Capitalism existed without Democracy, several times like Nazi Germany, Fascist Italy and Pinochet's Chile.
IrishShannonTomato 2 years ago 2
very well done! Thanks for the important information! Everybody read the comment. Thanks for the comment!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
wtf? do you even know what a Stalinist is? how it differs from other Communists like Trotskyist, Leninist, Council or Maoist? how it differs from various kinds of Socialism and various kinds of Capitalism either Laissez-Faire Gold Standard Capitalism or Keynesian regulated mixed economic Free Market Capitalism or De-regulated Capitalism even? the historyies of how each devloped and their relevance?
take classes on History and Political Science before saying astoundingly deranged and lunatic!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
Bunch of shills.
You can fool some of the people some of the time, but you can't fool me even one damn time.
Where do you think the millions of dollars the insurance companies paid out to fight this went?
TheRodeoX 2 years ago 4
well said, Rodeo. you sound like a REAL Texan rodeo Cowboy, Clint Eastwood style. Hehe.
i don't think that these Rednecks represent genuine Texan ways. i know tons of intelligent Texans, don't worry. i'm assuming you're Texan because of the rodeo name. sorry. but i mean it in a good way.
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
Thanks Fox. I'm not a Texan however, nor am I as cool as Clint. I just hate to see a long overdue debate about a serious subject derailed by spoliators without a clue as to the subject.
TheRodeoX 2 years ago
Tea bagger are fat and stupid..
Balldez 2 years ago 3
Bunch of inbred fucking tea bagging jackasses. We need to move all these right wing morons to Texas and force the state to secede from the US. I'm so sick and tired of these imbecile conservatives dumbing down the country.
Gark50 2 years ago
A clear majority of Americans -- 72 percent -- support a government-sponsored health care plan to compete with private insurers, a new CBS News/New York Times poll finds. Most also think the government would do a better job than private industry at keeping down costs and believe that the government should guarantee health care for all Americans.
knixphan 2 years ago 2
Read The Rubicon. This type of event became quite common at the forum. Civility between citizens declined to open air conflict and shoutdowns near the final 100 years before a monarchy was installed by Octavius.
MattMiller2157 2 years ago 2
likewise the way the Nazis took over, Nazis used same tactics as these Fake protesters, in the 1920's and early 1930's Germany, protesting against Labor Unions and German Democrats, who were in power until 1933.
Nazi "Brownshirt" assholes disrupted public activity and brutalized people prior to helping Hitler seize Authoritarian dictatorship from German Democrats.
Nazis were funded by the Wealthiest Few Right-wing, top industry corporate lobbyists and investors just like THESE Protesters!
FoxMulderXFOxx 2 years ago
Wasn't it just recently that the leader of the conservative family values party, Rush Limbaugh, called liberals a bunch of brown shirts? He mumbles, they listen, so if he said it it must be true. And they call us sheep, very funny stuff.
DisturbedInOhio 2 years ago 2
Forked tongue spin its all the same and the very greedy are still using the same tactics to keep control. How many of those protesters know that the first slaves to reach the good ole USA were white? How many of them had their ancestors convert to Christianity because the religious leaders of the time said you cant enslave Christians?
patrickintx 2 years ago 4
It is too easy to spin the truth and get others to do the bidding for the rich. Shutting down a meeting is not democracy in action! Debate honest debate is. Stop coming into the situation with the thought that you must win not matter what and debate! Yes your voice needs to be heard but you are brainwashed! You need to be deprogrammed. You need to think for yourself! God or the Great Spirit however you wish to say it gave you the ability to think start thinking!
patrickintx 2 years ago 4