They had a claustrophobic inmate whose visit got canceled 3 days before visiting day. The Screws (guards) still dragged him out to the holding cells (a plain small square room with absolutely no windows or ventilation) knowing he had no visitors.
I was there on a 1 hour visit.
He kicked and screamed from his claustrophobia yelling he had no visitors and wanted to go back to his cell, That only lasted for 5 minutes before 3 screws went in and "sorted" him out.
The guards are generally unhelpful and socially inept. They make things as hard as they can and enjoy the power to control and manipulate prisoners. Your rights as a prisoner are nil. You do as you are told when you are told. Violence within prisons is endemic and little to nothing is done to rehabiliate prisoners from this method of conflict resolution. The people that get out are given very little and find they have gained nothing in terms of skills while inside. Its a revolving door policy.
@montyscooter1965 Sounds like you were a visitor coming to see an inmate.
Don't mistake the "power to control" with assertiveness. Prisoners are well known for being given an inch and taking a mile.
As for rehabilitation you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. There are programmes and courses in prison but 90% of the inmates will only do they because it looks good when they apply for parole not because they want to better themselves in the community.
@MrLightblack Sounds like you make assumptions, which they say is the mother all fuck ups. This shows your lack of insight and understanding and context of what I wrote. As for the "prisoners" being led to water idiomatic metaphor; any person would rebel against being treated in a disrepectful, dehumainsing manner. I'd say a lot of High Court Judges, or anyone who appreciates being treated with respect and common decency, would get right lippy inside. Perhaps you should take a course or two.
@montyscooter1965 haha no assumptions made on my behalf how about your comments? I have personal experiences being in corrections. I agree with a lot of what happens inside the wire but then I also disagree with a lot of the talk that happens outside the wire by the average Joe Bloggs.
You stereotype all prisoners as being treated like shit but that is far from the truth.
As for the "horse and water" metaphor that was also a broad generalisation to my experiences.
@MrLightblack As for your deduction that "inmates will only do they (sic) b/c..." I really would like you to think for a minute and stop generalising. Do some research and read some books; Walters, R. and Bradley, T., (2006) Introduction to Criminological Thought, for a start. Life is complex and people even more so. People have histories and primary functions that drive behavioural outcomes. A small percentage of people are evil and/or insane but most are not.
@montyscooter1965 You tell me to not generalise and yet you say " Violence within prisons is endemic and little to nothing is done to rehabiliate prisoners from this method of conflict resolution." how is that not a generalisation?
I'll even use the example of stopping smoking in prisons as an initiative that was taken by Corrections to reduce the "stand overs" amongst the prisoners.
All well and good you read a book about it kudos now go see what it is like inside.
This is no more than a publicity fluff piece. The amount of food he was given was HUGE. The prisoners do not just sit in their cells all day. All the jobs around the prision; cooking, laundry, cleaning, growing food, food prep, etc, are done by prisoners. Guards open and close doors and don't lift a finger. They get 'paid' well below minimum wage and the serious violent prisoners don't get these jobs.
@MrLightblack Wow! This is an amazing piece of deductive reasoning. Your algorithmic model must have been complex to adduce such pure mathmatical simplicity. So in a word, yes. Being incarcerated is better than being shot in a quarry; being housed and treated humanely is better than being housed and treated inhumanely. To put it very simply; some of these imates have learnt some very bad lessons in life and priosn is a very good opportunity to teach them some good ones.
I think prisons are horrible because you spend the whole day in your cell doing nothing, being cramped up in your cell and you have to live in smelly cell room just because you are a criminal in that prison!
They had a claustrophobic inmate whose visit got canceled 3 days before visiting day. The Screws (guards) still dragged him out to the holding cells (a plain small square room with absolutely no windows or ventilation) knowing he had no visitors.
I was there on a 1 hour visit.
He kicked and screamed from his claustrophobia yelling he had no visitors and wanted to go back to his cell, That only lasted for 5 minutes before 3 screws went in and "sorted" him out.
JJchingy 5 months ago
The guards are generally unhelpful and socially inept. They make things as hard as they can and enjoy the power to control and manipulate prisoners. Your rights as a prisoner are nil. You do as you are told when you are told. Violence within prisons is endemic and little to nothing is done to rehabiliate prisoners from this method of conflict resolution. The people that get out are given very little and find they have gained nothing in terms of skills while inside. Its a revolving door policy.
montyscooter1965 6 months ago
@montyscooter1965 Sounds like you were a visitor coming to see an inmate.
Don't mistake the "power to control" with assertiveness. Prisoners are well known for being given an inch and taking a mile.
As for rehabilitation you can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink. There are programmes and courses in prison but 90% of the inmates will only do they because it looks good when they apply for parole not because they want to better themselves in the community.
MrLightblack 3 months ago
@MrLightblack Sounds like you make assumptions, which they say is the mother all fuck ups. This shows your lack of insight and understanding and context of what I wrote. As for the "prisoners" being led to water idiomatic metaphor; any person would rebel against being treated in a disrepectful, dehumainsing manner. I'd say a lot of High Court Judges, or anyone who appreciates being treated with respect and common decency, would get right lippy inside. Perhaps you should take a course or two.
montyscooter1965 3 months ago
@montyscooter1965 haha no assumptions made on my behalf how about your comments? I have personal experiences being in corrections. I agree with a lot of what happens inside the wire but then I also disagree with a lot of the talk that happens outside the wire by the average Joe Bloggs.
You stereotype all prisoners as being treated like shit but that is far from the truth.
As for the "horse and water" metaphor that was also a broad generalisation to my experiences.
MrLightblack 3 months ago
@MrLightblack As for your deduction that "inmates will only do they (sic) b/c..." I really would like you to think for a minute and stop generalising. Do some research and read some books; Walters, R. and Bradley, T., (2006) Introduction to Criminological Thought, for a start. Life is complex and people even more so. People have histories and primary functions that drive behavioural outcomes. A small percentage of people are evil and/or insane but most are not.
montyscooter1965 3 months ago
@montyscooter1965 You tell me to not generalise and yet you say " Violence within prisons is endemic and little to nothing is done to rehabiliate prisoners from this method of conflict resolution." how is that not a generalisation?
I'll even use the example of stopping smoking in prisons as an initiative that was taken by Corrections to reduce the "stand overs" amongst the prisoners.
All well and good you read a book about it kudos now go see what it is like inside.
MrLightblack 3 months ago
This is no more than a publicity fluff piece. The amount of food he was given was HUGE. The prisoners do not just sit in their cells all day. All the jobs around the prision; cooking, laundry, cleaning, growing food, food prep, etc, are done by prisoners. Guards open and close doors and don't lift a finger. They get 'paid' well below minimum wage and the serious violent prisoners don't get these jobs.
montyscooter1965 6 months ago
@montyscooter1965 45c an hour is better than working in a Nike sweat shop on 2c
MrLightblack 3 months ago
@MrLightblack Wow! This is an amazing piece of deductive reasoning. Your algorithmic model must have been complex to adduce such pure mathmatical simplicity. So in a word, yes. Being incarcerated is better than being shot in a quarry; being housed and treated humanely is better than being housed and treated inhumanely. To put it very simply; some of these imates have learnt some very bad lessons in life and priosn is a very good opportunity to teach them some good ones.
montyscooter1965 3 months ago
I think prisons are horrible because you spend the whole day in your cell doing nothing, being cramped up in your cell and you have to live in smelly cell room just because you are a criminal in that prison!
coolsladen 7 months ago
@coolsladen hahaha Ummm..... YEA.... prison is not supposed to be a nice place to go. people go there for a reason.
asinclair0 6 months ago
@coolsladen So prisoners should be sent to disney land to do their sentence?
MrLightblack 3 months ago
This prison is similar to San Quentin State Prison in San Quentin in Marin County near San Francisco, California, USA
coolsladen 7 months ago
FREE NAMZ TNC
LAYLOAOTEAROA 8 months ago
those arent paint stains
nick0wnsu 8 months ago
thats bloody luxury compared to aus
SuperPhatblunt 9 months ago
dumb more
like segregation
FTW332 10 months ago
thanks for that :). FREE JOE
AaliyahAC 1 year ago
looks like they already been touch..hahaha
FARQPIG 1 year ago
thanks - interesting insight.
littlejordi1 1 year ago
That was very interesting to watch. Thanks for making it.
FrostfoxFilms 1 year ago