that's interesting....i will share it on my FB. and i am very against to CI myself...when will they open their eyes that CI is not cure or a miracle for Deaf to hear?
It will take us long time to erase people's false hope and brainwash that CI is not a cure. Dr. Pisoni, said that "CI does not help to restore normal hearing sounds". I guess we keep on vlogging, blogging, writing letters to Parents of Deaf children and whatnot..
I noticed he is 8 months old and I haven't seen him holding up his head. He arched his back in another video (I hear that usually mean something). The child look worn out. I feel bad for the boy and I think the media should have left him alone.. They may not want to update a video because he probably have medical condition.
I just realized, since he was born hearing, it may not be a hoax. He may already have the skills. But it still take awhile to adjust to CI because it can sound like a donald duck and such.
It's not about his abililty to hear the sounds. It's about the MSM (Mainstreamed Media) which gave everyone a misinterpretion that it was a miracle. Miracle means cure and he became normal hearing person. That part is hoax.
Don't you think its too much for 8 months old baby to handle 2 CIs right after he recovered from fatal illness, spinal meningitis? I tried to add you on my friend list but couldnt because you didn't develop your own Youtube channel? you plan to?
I'm sure he heard something, but it doesn't mean he can equal sounds to his mama's voice. I don't think he can develop that skill yet. I highly doubt he would laugh if no one was making a facial expression. I mean, look his mom's surprised look when he got activated.
@Sazzydeafgurl true, all babies are like that even I did use surprised looks with my friend's deaf babies, they laughed. My heart goes to Jonathan because I am little worried. We havent see him recently. He must be 3 years old by now. I hope he is not like another child I saw who experiences balance problem, drooling. Yes 2 CIs on him, lost hearing to spinal meningitis just like Jonathan. =/
Just saw trailer movie of Idiocracy! Yes yes yes exactly.. I say that that! That's how we have been enslaved by govt. and live with little to none purposes. Good analogy, you!
I just love how you say! Yeah, they're pompous clowns. Beautiful said! They're not only pompous clown, but also accomplice to murder attempts if they knew, because CI industries knew perfectly well that in few cases, operation on babies do kill them. They're murderers and lynch mobsters to protect them. What a sad and scary folly! They have zero rights to gamble with our life. No justice, no peace. I have to shoot them for our defense, but I don't, because I just want to live
I agree with you, they have zero rights to own and maniplate Deaf people's body... I have been on CI vlogs to erase and stamp out their false images of us. On Jonathan's vlog, I am trying to put fires out... planting new beautiful trees there. I pray and hope for Jonathan's well being.
Almost 2 millions, that's becuz ABC, CBS, AGBell, GMA reached to large audiences and asked everyone to go on Jonathan's vlog... dirty trick, why get everyone to pay attention, becuz of ab2072 is around the corner? Tsk tsk! We don't see 3 yrs later Jonathan boy here..
May I have your permission to post it at ASLRocks or you do it. I feel the people over there will be appericate to see your good vlog. I respinded yours via video.
You look beautiful with nice tunic top (love tunic tops myself)! \o/
Yes, obviously, when I watched it made me humiliating because they think we are that stupid? We know what to take us to look up at mothers - visual, of course. Oh dear. When will humiliation feeling end?
I will look further into those links after work (I am on lunch break but not enough time!)
@allisonpeace oh thanks dear, right , when will it ever end? Its the society where stereotyping and prejudges need to end! One classic example, the mother told me she had to get her son a CI becuz someone said he might become a peddler. Peddler? Oh please... we got to do a lot of work ahead..
Beautiful job, aguaboo! Somebody sent me that link and asked what do I think of that....I reacted quickly and said Jonathan simply reacted to his mom's facial expressions, not hearing her voices. Babies do use their eyes and hands to follow things, etc because that is the first thing they do before they learn how to talk.
You good response... know what? AGBell website made it announcement on their front page that Jonathan was on GMA! Oh pls,,, where can we see a physical evidence of 3 yrs old Jonathan today?
I went thru like him, after I recovered at 2, I was like sick puppy, so fragile and took me long time (6 to 8 mos) to eat, walk and potty trained again. I feel like Jonathan struck me with pains and grieves. Being Deaf is beautiful thing!
Most of the activation videos on youtube show initial shock or the child is scared and even crying. I think this is the first one that I have seen the baby smile. Who knows if it was the actual first reaction, who knows if it was even on? All about framing, the baby smiles so the video goes viral. Why not show one of the terrified babies?
Don't you think its too much for 8 mos old Jonathan to handle? He was diagnosised with spinal meningitis, a fatal illness. He overcame and got well, then CI right away? By now he is 3 yrs old, I'd like to see his current development, I notice on 2nd or 3rd vlog, I assume its was father who had to hold Jonathan's head? Was it becuz of poor balance? I know most 8 mos old babies can sit up and move head on their own.
@aguabo Yup! He has been thru more than he should. My point is that this particular video has been so well known simply because he's smiling. If you look at the babies who show confused look during activation they don't have near the hits that this one does. SAD really. People need to know that it may not be as exciting for the baby to hear for the first time, it can be scary for them. Time to wake people up. Your message is crystal clear.
@aguabo I also have to add... how did it end up on GMA? AGBELL sent it to them? If so, like I said... framing. AGBELL wants parents to see this "miracle". You are trying to reframe. Where is he now??? Great question, hope GMA sees your video.
Good question, I first saw it coming on AOL front page then its gone like wildfires. I received GMA's email asking me for Jonathan's parents contact info. My sister in law saw that on CBS, I was like gee! what's the rush? Why use 2 yrs old video which CIs become like ancient technology, many are looking into stem cells becuz they knew CIs do not work. I just send jonathan's parents an email asking abt his health status. Sounds not good.
recieved the daily quote from Charles Fink this morning, then saw your vlog. WOW, such a coincidence! here's the quote, "The organization of American society is an interlocking system of semi-monopolies notoriously venal, an electorate notoriously unenlightened, misled by a mass media notoriously phony" - paul goodman
Paul Goodman, one of actors? Good thought-provoking quoation of the day. Yea how coincidence... I've stopped watching those biased news, I keep myself updated through Russia Today news, TVLink and websites without "Big Brothers"
Good preliminary discussion of the video. Still more we can do.
Was this video recently re-released or shown on GMA? If so, what about a letter-writing campaign to GMA to get them to do a follow-up story or show the other side?
It was shown on GMA, AGbell website, CBS and AOL using the link to youtube video, we didn't see any follow up story on Jonathan's.
Two things I'd like to see how it shld happen. 1) Bring another 3 years old Deaf child using bilingual skills 2). Bring 3 yrs old Jonathan on the show. We can compare both kids. We can do letter-writing campaign but will GMA agree?
I agree with you on this...I felt the same thing when I first saw their video, baby looking at his mother is ALL visual, as it's so obvious...people were fooled about baby hearing sound for first time, it's sad! And interestingly enough to know that they haven't updated on their son in over 2 years! (Disregard my other comments as it's not correct, so please disapprove it, thanks Michelle).
When I held my friend's Deaf baby, he looked at me smiling, the same thing becuz I was using face expression. I knew all babies react like that, its not because of hear.
If u find any recent video of Jonathan, then please to share it with us. Thanks for ur comment.
(Cont ...) Fast forward to approx 10 years old, we learned he was pretty behind with eduction, since he went to private school with non-certified interpreter. Ouch! We tried to encourage them to attend deaf school, but they thought the boy would receive better education from the private school. Nope, they thought failed. They didn't want to listen from our own standpoints what we thought the best for that boy. Hearing people always think they knew better than deaf people. Egoism, them.
Its been 10 yrs and his parents still resist to your idea of organic cure?! Now see what they have caused, harm is done. He lost his altruism becuz he has to do things to please them, that's so wrong. You and I are living proof, we know what's best for those Deaf children. Being educated is more important than learning how to hear and speak becuz all do not have the same skills, same idea as art skill.
My wife used to babysit the deaf boy who happened to have CI. First, he was born hearing, then lost his hearing due to high fever. A little later, his parent decided to put CI in him. We did not meet him until he was approx 2 years old, and my wife was hired to babysit him so he could learn ASL, and at the same time we were curious what kind of result he received.
I've stopped owning a TV long time just for that exact reason; although it wasn't about deafness, the biased media is out there. True freedom of speech in media doesn't exist anymore. Living in Europe just makes it more obvious how biased USA is! It's really a sad thing to witness firsthand. What I do nowadays is to always cross check if I want to know a certain info, even from other countries and make my educated guess. I applaud you for bringing this up! Hope more ppl open their eyes to this!
@indumamoon true. many freedom lovers in USA stop subscribing cable & newspapers, so biased and maniplating like how Bush brainwashed us on axis thing. I just returned from Europe. Agree w/ u. They put truths in open. Now why do CBS, GMA and AOL continue to brainwashing ignorant parents. My big ? is, where is 3 yrs old Jonathan? hiding?
This is why I hate to watch some TV news because there are full of crapola in many ways. There are always full of bias. Medical or AGBELL or Audiologist are not a GOD or JESUS.. SO BE IT! CI companies are severe mental illness people make people to believe CI s so cure and miracle. They actually damage those Deaf babies/ children s body properties that is a violation Deaf babies/children s rights to be protected. They have no right to invade their life.
You say it all. For your information, more and more people are waking up. They don't want CIs but keep eyes on stem cell... I see its happening in medical industry now. CIs are about to become ancient technology and history. We have to focus on organic cure, the natural ways.
@aguabo Why bother to have stem cell as well as we born deaf as is.. There is a reason for us to live in this Mother Nature world. No one can change us anything like that. Just leave us alone as is. We all are human beings. No one can fix anybody who born with something that they dont have. Lets us have our diversity to accept any kind of people in this world. That what it should be done. I m so sick of people who become more hatred for being so different from them. Jeez!
So whats the plan? How can we fight? Be individuals and mind our own business and be on a journey until death being inactive and not bother with unity starting a movement? What is stopping us? Fear? Why do Deaf people stop other Deaf people? Hearing people are winning, and Deafhood will never florish and grow without Minority Protection and Human Rights! Deaf Americans, and Deaf folks in other countries should do something now!
I already have a huge plan... 3 people are interested so far. I need more takers from Los Angeles area. I'm not going to be sitting duck to let the higher officials to put oppression at us. I have no fear, what abt you guys?
that's interesting....i will share it on my FB. and i am very against to CI myself...when will they open their eyes that CI is not cure or a miracle for Deaf to hear?
lilbluesmiley 1 year ago
@lilbluesmiley
It will take us long time to erase people's false hope and brainwash that CI is not a cure. Dr. Pisoni, said that "CI does not help to restore normal hearing sounds". I guess we keep on vlogging, blogging, writing letters to Parents of Deaf children and whatnot..
aguabo 1 year ago
I noticed he is 8 months old and I haven't seen him holding up his head. He arched his back in another video (I hear that usually mean something). The child look worn out. I feel bad for the boy and I think the media should have left him alone.. They may not want to update a video because he probably have medical condition.
Sazzydeafgurl 1 year ago
I just realized, since he was born hearing, it may not be a hoax. He may already have the skills. But it still take awhile to adjust to CI because it can sound like a donald duck and such.
Sazzydeafgurl 1 year ago
@Sazzydeafgurl
It's not about his abililty to hear the sounds. It's about the MSM (Mainstreamed Media) which gave everyone a misinterpretion that it was a miracle. Miracle means cure and he became normal hearing person. That part is hoax.
Don't you think its too much for 8 months old baby to handle 2 CIs right after he recovered from fatal illness, spinal meningitis? I tried to add you on my friend list but couldnt because you didn't develop your own Youtube channel? you plan to?
aguabo 1 year ago
@aguabo yes I agree with you. CI is not a miracle or a cure. And yes, it alittle too much for the child to bare after recovering Spinal meningitis
I do have youtube channel. It is just set to private.
Sazzydeafgurl 1 year ago
@Sazzydeafgurl
oh the reason I wanted to add you on friends list so I do not have to approve your comment at every time. I understand... no problem..
aguabo 1 year ago
I'm sure he heard something, but it doesn't mean he can equal sounds to his mama's voice. I don't think he can develop that skill yet. I highly doubt he would laugh if no one was making a facial expression. I mean, look his mom's surprised look when he got activated.
Sazzydeafgurl 1 year ago
@Sazzydeafgurl true, all babies are like that even I did use surprised looks with my friend's deaf babies, they laughed. My heart goes to Jonathan because I am little worried. We havent see him recently. He must be 3 years old by now. I hope he is not like another child I saw who experiences balance problem, drooling. Yes 2 CIs on him, lost hearing to spinal meningitis just like Jonathan. =/
aguabo 1 year ago
I will say this here as I have said it else where,, a cochlear implant is not a cure, it is nothing but a bandaid job ,...
CloggieIllinois 1 year ago
@CloggieIllinois
A huge bandaid job... Cloggie? You avid user of crocs or clog shoes? =D
aguabo 1 year ago
@aguabo
Will send u a private message eplaining my name LOL
CloggieIllinois 1 year ago
@CloggieIllinois
Hi Cloggie! got your email... I get it now! smiles =D
aguabo 1 year ago
Kudos to you, aguabo! This is definitely PURE & organic speech!
ASLFuel 1 year ago
@ASLFuel
Right on. What's not to love about going ORGANIC? =D
aguabo 1 year ago
(SCOFFS) at IronTeeth27 who removed his comment. He said, "Grandstanding Ovation!" Thank you and I love these beautiful roses. @>---- cheers =D
aguabo 1 year ago
*chuckling* Have you ever seen the movie 'Idiocracy"? It is just exactly like that with the deaf and CI to us. Kudos to you.
Parropia 1 year ago
@Parropia
Just saw trailer movie of Idiocracy! Yes yes yes exactly.. I say that that! That's how we have been enslaved by govt. and live with little to none purposes. Good analogy, you!
=D
BUMP!
aguabo 1 year ago
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IronTeeth27 1 year ago
I just love how you say! Yeah, they're pompous clowns. Beautiful said! They're not only pompous clown, but also accomplice to murder attempts if they knew, because CI industries knew perfectly well that in few cases, operation on babies do kill them. They're murderers and lynch mobsters to protect them. What a sad and scary folly! They have zero rights to gamble with our life. No justice, no peace. I have to shoot them for our defense, but I don't, because I just want to live
Salticid68 1 year ago
@Salticid68
I agree with you, they have zero rights to own and maniplate Deaf people's body... I have been on CI vlogs to erase and stamp out their false images of us. On Jonathan's vlog, I am trying to put fires out... planting new beautiful trees there. I pray and hope for Jonathan's well being.
aguabo 1 year ago
whoaa see Jonathan's vlog near 1.9 millions views only two years ago!
heeheeluck 1 year ago
@heeheeluck
Almost 2 millions, that's becuz ABC, CBS, AGBell, GMA reached to large audiences and asked everyone to go on Jonathan's vlog... dirty trick, why get everyone to pay attention, becuz of ab2072 is around the corner? Tsk tsk! We don't see 3 yrs later Jonathan boy here..
aguabo 1 year ago
May I have your permission to post it at ASLRocks or you do it. I feel the people over there will be appericate to see your good vlog. I respinded yours via video.
Ardizz3 1 year ago
thats good one !! :)
bearpax52 1 year ago
@bearpax52
BUMP! :D
aguabo 1 year ago
Hi Michelle!
You look beautiful with nice tunic top (love tunic tops myself)! \o/
Yes, obviously, when I watched it made me humiliating because they think we are that stupid? We know what to take us to look up at mothers - visual, of course. Oh dear. When will humiliation feeling end?
I will look further into those links after work (I am on lunch break but not enough time!)
Thanks for this vlog - very worthwhile vlog!
Kathryn
allisonpeace 1 year ago
@allisonpeace oh thanks dear, right , when will it ever end? Its the society where stereotyping and prejudges need to end! One classic example, the mother told me she had to get her son a CI becuz someone said he might become a peddler. Peddler? Oh please... we got to do a lot of work ahead..
aguabo 1 year ago
@aguabo
For that reason, Peddler? *thud*
allisonpeace 1 year ago
Beautiful job, aguaboo! Somebody sent me that link and asked what do I think of that....I reacted quickly and said Jonathan simply reacted to his mom's facial expressions, not hearing her voices. Babies do use their eyes and hands to follow things, etc because that is the first thing they do before they learn how to talk.
The parents need a huge wake up call!
InsaneMisha 1 year ago
@InsaneMisha
You good response... know what? AGBell website made it announcement on their front page that Jonathan was on GMA! Oh pls,,, where can we see a physical evidence of 3 yrs old Jonathan today?
I went thru like him, after I recovered at 2, I was like sick puppy, so fragile and took me long time (6 to 8 mos) to eat, walk and potty trained again. I feel like Jonathan struck me with pains and grieves. Being Deaf is beautiful thing!
aguabo 1 year ago
Most of the activation videos on youtube show initial shock or the child is scared and even crying. I think this is the first one that I have seen the baby smile. Who knows if it was the actual first reaction, who knows if it was even on? All about framing, the baby smiles so the video goes viral. Why not show one of the terrified babies?
REBE258 1 year ago
@REBE258
Don't you think its too much for 8 mos old Jonathan to handle? He was diagnosised with spinal meningitis, a fatal illness. He overcame and got well, then CI right away? By now he is 3 yrs old, I'd like to see his current development, I notice on 2nd or 3rd vlog, I assume its was father who had to hold Jonathan's head? Was it becuz of poor balance? I know most 8 mos old babies can sit up and move head on their own.
aguabo 1 year ago
@aguabo Yup! He has been thru more than he should. My point is that this particular video has been so well known simply because he's smiling. If you look at the babies who show confused look during activation they don't have near the hits that this one does. SAD really. People need to know that it may not be as exciting for the baby to hear for the first time, it can be scary for them. Time to wake people up. Your message is crystal clear.
REBE258 1 year ago
@aguabo I also have to add... how did it end up on GMA? AGBELL sent it to them? If so, like I said... framing. AGBELL wants parents to see this "miracle". You are trying to reframe. Where is he now??? Great question, hope GMA sees your video.
REBE258 1 year ago
@REBE258
Good question, I first saw it coming on AOL front page then its gone like wildfires. I received GMA's email asking me for Jonathan's parents contact info. My sister in law saw that on CBS, I was like gee! what's the rush? Why use 2 yrs old video which CIs become like ancient technology, many are looking into stem cells becuz they knew CIs do not work. I just send jonathan's parents an email asking abt his health status. Sounds not good.
aguabo 1 year ago
recieved the daily quote from Charles Fink this morning, then saw your vlog. WOW, such a coincidence! here's the quote, "The organization of American society is an interlocking system of semi-monopolies notoriously venal, an electorate notoriously unenlightened, misled by a mass media notoriously phony" - paul goodman
ASLKimber 1 year ago
@ASLKimber
Paul Goodman, one of actors? Good thought-provoking quoation of the day. Yea how coincidence... I've stopped watching those biased news, I keep myself updated through Russia Today news, TVLink and websites without "Big Brothers"
aguabo 1 year ago
Good preliminary discussion of the video. Still more we can do.
Was this video recently re-released or shown on GMA? If so, what about a letter-writing campaign to GMA to get them to do a follow-up story or show the other side?
DrDonGCSUS 1 year ago
@DrDonGCSUS
It was shown on GMA, AGbell website, CBS and AOL using the link to youtube video, we didn't see any follow up story on Jonathan's.
Two things I'd like to see how it shld happen. 1) Bring another 3 years old Deaf child using bilingual skills 2). Bring 3 yrs old Jonathan on the show. We can compare both kids. We can do letter-writing campaign but will GMA agree?
aguabo 1 year ago
I agree with you on this...I felt the same thing when I first saw their video, baby looking at his mother is ALL visual, as it's so obvious...people were fooled about baby hearing sound for first time, it's sad! And interestingly enough to know that they haven't updated on their son in over 2 years! (Disregard my other comments as it's not correct, so please disapprove it, thanks Michelle).
DeafPoet2 1 year ago
@DeafPoet2
When I held my friend's Deaf baby, he looked at me smiling, the same thing becuz I was using face expression. I knew all babies react like that, its not because of hear.
If u find any recent video of Jonathan, then please to share it with us. Thanks for ur comment.
aguabo 1 year ago
Sorry for length of my comments ... good vlog, you.
rachadw 1 year ago
(Cont ...) Fast forward to approx 10 years old, we learned he was pretty behind with eduction, since he went to private school with non-certified interpreter. Ouch! We tried to encourage them to attend deaf school, but they thought the boy would receive better education from the private school. Nope, they thought failed. They didn't want to listen from our own standpoints what we thought the best for that boy. Hearing people always think they knew better than deaf people. Egoism, them.
rachadw 1 year ago
@rachadw
Its been 10 yrs and his parents still resist to your idea of organic cure?! Now see what they have caused, harm is done. He lost his altruism becuz he has to do things to please them, that's so wrong. You and I are living proof, we know what's best for those Deaf children. Being educated is more important than learning how to hear and speak becuz all do not have the same skills, same idea as art skill.
aguabo 1 year ago
My wife used to babysit the deaf boy who happened to have CI. First, he was born hearing, then lost his hearing due to high fever. A little later, his parent decided to put CI in him. We did not meet him until he was approx 2 years old, and my wife was hired to babysit him so he could learn ASL, and at the same time we were curious what kind of result he received.
rachadw 1 year ago
Time to formula "A-ASL-TEAM" right away & now! ~WS ~
Willowspinners 1 year ago
@Willowspinners
Right on! I need more takers from Los Angeles area, are u here in CA?
aguabo 1 year ago
I've stopped owning a TV long time just for that exact reason; although it wasn't about deafness, the biased media is out there. True freedom of speech in media doesn't exist anymore. Living in Europe just makes it more obvious how biased USA is! It's really a sad thing to witness firsthand. What I do nowadays is to always cross check if I want to know a certain info, even from other countries and make my educated guess. I applaud you for bringing this up! Hope more ppl open their eyes to this!
indumamoon 1 year ago
@indumamoon true. many freedom lovers in USA stop subscribing cable & newspapers, so biased and maniplating like how Bush brainwashed us on axis thing. I just returned from Europe. Agree w/ u. They put truths in open. Now why do CBS, GMA and AOL continue to brainwashing ignorant parents. My big ? is, where is 3 yrs old Jonathan? hiding?
aguabo 1 year ago
This is why I hate to watch some TV news because there are full of crapola in many ways. There are always full of bias. Medical or AGBELL or Audiologist are not a GOD or JESUS.. SO BE IT! CI companies are severe mental illness people make people to believe CI s so cure and miracle. They actually damage those Deaf babies/ children s body properties that is a violation Deaf babies/children s rights to be protected. They have no right to invade their life.
DeafSweetMind 1 year ago
@DeafSweetMind
You say it all. For your information, more and more people are waking up. They don't want CIs but keep eyes on stem cell... I see its happening in medical industry now. CIs are about to become ancient technology and history. We have to focus on organic cure, the natural ways.
aguabo 1 year ago
@aguabo Why bother to have stem cell as well as we born deaf as is.. There is a reason for us to live in this Mother Nature world. No one can change us anything like that. Just leave us alone as is. We all are human beings. No one can fix anybody who born with something that they dont have. Lets us have our diversity to accept any kind of people in this world. That what it should be done. I m so sick of people who become more hatred for being so different from them. Jeez!
DeafSweetMind 1 year ago
THANK YOU SO MUCH!
DeafSweetMind 1 year ago
I found video link on youtube:
watch?v=ZDD7Ohs5tAk
I'm completed disgusted about that many people likes about 5,288 likes compared to 48 dislike for that video. What the blatant lie that offend me!
vikingscool 1 year ago
I agree with you! :) I am sick about this hoax/propaganda news, thanks for wonderful vlog!
vikingscool 1 year ago
@vikingscool
Its all about money and maniplation, MSM are into that, there is no fair and balanced and I don't think we are living in democracy.
aguabo 1 year ago
@aguabo Yes! You are correct! I say to you, "Money is full root of evil with crap things!"
vikingscool 1 year ago
So whats the plan? How can we fight? Be individuals and mind our own business and be on a journey until death being inactive and not bother with unity starting a movement? What is stopping us? Fear? Why do Deaf people stop other Deaf people? Hearing people are winning, and Deafhood will never florish and grow without Minority Protection and Human Rights! Deaf Americans, and Deaf folks in other countries should do something now!
Bunjer 1 year ago
@Bunjer
I already have a huge plan... 3 people are interested so far. I need more takers from Los Angeles area. I'm not going to be sitting duck to let the higher officials to put oppression at us. I have no fear, what abt you guys?
aguabo 1 year ago