Why shouldn't it be about the oil. We gave them a better life and freedom and opportunity and they are now going to be one of the wealthiest nations in the world! We deserve some of their oil! Their resources that could never be tapped are now coming to fruition! All because of us! They have more gold, oil, gas, minerals than anyone and now they don't kill women for reading and getting educated! We deserve some of their resources. Our men and women died for their freedom and better life!
@badpanda84 No! I can remember for many years cries for help as they slaughtered the women and children and so many were begging for us to stop the atrocities. So many are grateful but the government is so corrupt! Karzi has to go!
@badpanda84 Propaganda badpanda84. Get your facts clear. That is rhetoric. All war has causalities. The largest embassy in the world is in Iraq and only Sadre is the one that wanted us gone. Over 15K contractors will still be there. Obama didn't tell you that. They need our protection from Iran. Over 350K dead people in mass graves and 35K Kurds killed with Sadams chemical warfare on his own people led to the US freeing them and now they will be one of the wealthiest nations in the world!
of course its about oil almost all military activity in the middle east for the past 50 years has been related to oil, and its not only the US that has been involved all the worlds super powers have their hands in the middle east. Its only natural that the world super powers enter a race to obtain or monopolize the worlds natural resources its all about power and control, but my question is in obtaining or monopolizing these resources who is being benefited?
Holyshit. you absolute genius, you've worked out that countries need freedom and oil! Took you a while didn't it. Here are the simple facts: the world now runs on figures percentages and risk management. Invading afghanistan was required to remove a mass murdering sycophant from power. These are bad bad people, responsible for mass graves in afghan pakistan and on every other border their country meets. In return, the savior coalition is often offered oil contracts, which WE NEED.
I see comments saying that Afghanistan doesn't produce any oil. That isn't the issue. The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline is to bring natural gas resources from Turkenistan "through" Afghanistan to Pakistan-India and markets. UNOCAL was negotiating with the Taliban in the 90's for this at the same time Dick Cheney was CEO of Haliburton when it got involved with planning natural gas access in Turkmenistan. Negotiations with Taliban ended but after invasion (after 911) in 2002, pipeline was agreed to.
part2... There was a big focus on getting a Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline even back in the 1990's. Taliban visited Texas at UNOCAL's headquarters. Dick Cheney was CEO of Haliburton which was arranging plans to get drilling in Turkmenistan. This shows a direct involvement of this future Bush vice president in a plan for this Turkmenistan gas and Trans-Afghan pipeline. One major reason for invading Afghanistan (but reason projected into media was the convenient story of Taliban harbouring Bin Laden)
@pugcasso Agreed, in the 1970's the soviets did tests on the most promising oil sites, they reckon at least 100million barrels of oil just in the places they had access to, and this is bearing in mind that this estimate was made assuming the use of a 70's refinery which has a much higher wastage percentage than modern day refineries, so we can probably say around 150 million barrels. The point is that refineries are not all that difficult to build, finding oil is the hard part.
WHY DONT THE AMERICANS GO TO NORTH KOREA? NO OIL? OR THE CORRUPT AFRICAN NATIONS-NOT MIDDLE EAST? CAUSE THERES NO OIL? AMERICANS ARE DUMB FUCKS! THEY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEIR GOVERNMENT TELLS THEM! BRAINWASHED SHEEP! A GREEDY RUTHLESS NATION! LIKE THE BRITISH EMPIRE BEFORE THEM, THIS OIL GREEDY NATION WILL FALL.
@damienbrennan1 "WHY DONT THE AMERICANS GO TO NORTH KOREA? NO OIL?"
Actually they dont invade North Korea ( even after they openly admitted to weapons of mass destructions) because they know they will get there ass kicked.. remeber North Korea has a standing army of 1 million soliders
@applegiant11 -- Of course none of that is relvant -- because just like in Vietnam -- the Americans can kill 10 VC for every one US solider and still lose..
Even if the US has a bigger army that North Korea -- they wont be able to invade North Korea without suffering a large number of casulaties -- and that is a price the US isnt willing to pay
Heroin and Oil is all it is. The terrorists?are you fucking joking? we beat any legitimate terror groups out of there years ago. Now we're just there for our personal gain making it look like we're fighting so we get more funding which in turn leads to the unjust death of american soldiers! The "warlords" are drug lords how the hell do people think they fund their "terrorism" i'm just sick of us playing world police and on top of that being greedy via energy and lying about our motives (drugs).
@don2neptune I never said Afghanistan had no oil. I merely stated the fact that Afghanistan has never PRODUCED any oil...not a single barrel. Afghanistan actually has significant deposits of oil; nothing special, but significant. It's estimated that Afghanistan's oil deposits would rank anywhere from 25th-30th among all countries. That's not terribly impressive and would take decades to develop.
@goldenthroat86 ok i totally agree with u with "Afganistan has never produced a single barell of oil" BUT the pipeline which goes through Afganistan is want they want they want control of !!!!
@don2neptune u got sumet wrong u sed "you're right Afghanistan has zero oil " u meant to say "you're right Afghanistan has PRODUCED zero oil" because they have pipelines which the US want control of it cos its the most cheapest way and best way ! :P stop sticking up for them
Dnt get me wrong if they are there to fight the bad people then that by all means right but for pipelines thats wrong unless they have permission to use it
The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology." - Michael Parenti
well said. Until we realize who is running our country Nothing will change.
Every Citizen must take it upon themselves to understand The Federal Reserve. It is a privately owned bank that overtook our govmrnt in 1913 and is responsible for ruining our currency and enslaving our people.
@justtakeiteasy The Goverment comes from rich "upper "class families that havnt had the normal worry that most Families have had, They have always been rapped in cotton wool, They were born with silver spoons in there mouth and money coming out there ass. And they are greedy and take everything they can.
@justtakeiteasy Doesnt make a difference if you vote or not, The Goverment knows how angry the civilians(Peasants) are about Foreign Policy. But the Goverment is above the Law and they call the shots they dont really understand. And there are countless thousands of civilians who need there benefits to survive and support there families the goverment would be fools to take it away, Crime would go to an all time high.
@justtakeiteasy I have lost alot friends in both Iraq and Afghan most were just too young teens and early 20s! And i have seen 2 Friends come back 1 lost 2 limbs and the other wasnt injured but went on the run for the Army he ended up drinking alot fighting and he lost it, Now hes sectioned and is classed a danger to the Public shows there are only 1 winners in war, The corrupt goverment.
@martynrobin121 it depends how u deal with the military and what happened while u served.... he should of been 100 percent sure what he was getting himself into and the dangers physical and mental
@lvrpatriot01 Thats the thing, Nobody knows what they are getting into, They are brainwashed into thinking Fighting for your country agaist evil terroists, Most are too young to know. They are pawns and puppets for the corrupt goverments of the west, Who drink blood of the innocent civilians for there oil interests, They dont care about civilians, They are helping Israel in genocide and Saudis in the Sunny and Shia conflicts and most of th world, U.S and U.K are behind everything.
@justtakeiteasy Makes no difference really, There will always be fat rich goverment who sit behind desk and hide playing war games while there soldiers are been killed or made mentally ill. Its life and human nature its been going on for Thousands of years but i suppose all nations have the right to defend themselfs. My friend in the Forces lost 2 limbs hes 21 lives in a Council flat with no life and future thats the thanks he got off the goverment and country its a joke.
@justtakeiteasy People will always join the Forces, With the economy going down hill for alot of young people going in the Forces is a good future with good pay and great benefits and the chance to see the world and fight for your "country"(Goverment). The Forces are just puppets for the fat greedy rich pigs who sit behind a desk playing war games.
Russia, China, Iran defeat U.S. in the “pipeline wars”
While the West kills thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan and ravages both countries, Russia, China and Iran are acquiring the crucial energy riches of Central Asia and the Caspian area without firing a shot.
Why do you think the US is so actively pursuing the "war on terror?" It is more rightly called "wars for resources". All the Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, business shows is to what lengths we will go to to secure energy stores. I am waiting to see what lasting good our excursions into countries and arming them or killing them does. How can it make friends with their populace? Really, what is life like now for the average Iraqi? We are bullies like the rest.
Funny how if the west didnt invade afghan they wouldnt of got there oil pipeline and there puppet goverment whitch they had wanted since 1998 they were also planning the invasion of afghan since 1998 years before 9/11 and what the west is doing in the middle-east is just wrong and barbaric
Afghanistan, is one of the world's richest countries, is sitting on mineral and petroleum reserves worth an estimated 3 trillion dollars. mineral deposits are worth a thousand billion dollars -- not a thousand million dollars but a thousand billion
I hate to tell you, but the oil reserves in Afghanistan make up exactly 0% of the world's oil supply. The reason for this is because there is no oil there, in other parts of the middle east there may be, but there's none in Afghanistan.
@Sevenoneight7 Although AFG doesn't have oil, it has 1 Trillion dollars worth of untapped resources. And the OIL / NATURAL GAS is in the CASPIAN SEA , the whole point is to build a pipeline at the Pakistani Karachi Port.
@Sevenoneight7 afghanistan has no oil but western companies could raise it up to 4.5 million barrels a day in about 15 years which makes it 5% of world oil production.
@Sevenoneight7 afghanistan is an untouched place it may be possible that there is a large resources of oil because in Baluchistan there is a large amout of natural gase and other resources same in iran along with oil this is near places to afghanistan.
nobody is better than anybody else.. foreigners jsut want to kill peole so tey cna get their hadns on expadning comerical empires. and gorups liek teht albina want to opress ppl to practice thier fucked up views of religions. and the innocent people. theyre not in this. but they have to live thru it
whats sad is the civilains that live in afghanistan. there lot is either the taliban who opress them, or foreigners who want to isntall a puppet government (via a bloody war that will murder many civilians) that will sell out their country's resources at prices unfair for them.
@Aptitude drug runners? theyre bastards no douibtm but were alot worse. thye stopped the drug trade did hyou know that? after we kciekd em out nwo teh drug trade is as HIGH AS EVER
@Aptitude are u fuked in the head? its israel. as far as im covnered. ameirca is more fo a threat to peace and jsutice then thsoe rag tag isnrugents in paksitan.
you woudl wthink ww2 the nazis, the japs and the tialians and spaniards would ha e tuaght ppl NOT TO FOLLOW ORDERS BLINDLY BUT TO QUESTION THEM. no they havent.
hwo many inncoent ppl have 2 die 4 thier game? n teh sodleirs, i dont fel sorry 4 'em. they chose 2 fite, thye mayb pawns BUT THEY CHOSE 2 B PAWNS. they knew beta, they cuda refused n if they had refused 2 simply follow orders blindly then this wudlt be happenin. teh US govenrment wudnt b able 2 do this w/o soldiers. no doubt they'e bein lied 2, but they got the choice to question their orders. n if they did the research, n quesiton their orders we wudnt hav this problem so its their fault 2.
electrolysis and tesla gravity generators render oil/gas useless and would collapse stock exchanges and capitalism overnight. no need to be in afghanistan atall.
Again, it is not enforcable, the fed income tax is for profits and gains not for wages and labor! It is an illegal tax and that's why I stopped paying it last year. Have you seen the YouTube video Show Me The Law? It's excellent!
@MsTheresaKelly1 Let me stop you at profits and gains. First when you supply someone with time, and they supply you with money, that in and of itself is profit. We have multiple forms of taxation in the united stats. Profit, investment, savings, labor, death, payroll, the list goes on. The income tax, taxes those who make a profit through labor. The capital gains tax, taxes those who make money on investments. The payroll tax, taxes those who employ....
@MsTheresaKelly1 The income tax is stated in the 16th amendment. YES the income tax is unconstitutional, so what did they do, write an amendment. This amendment, to this day still exists, and gives congress the power to levy taxes on income.
The majority of it is about oil however it's also about a full economic takeover of those countries, from pharmasuiticals to electrical power American corporations are there taking over those industries.
What you're saying is true, the point I'm making though is that the Federal Income Tax is an unenforceable tax. You can zero out your W2, and not pay it. SS and Medicare tax are automatically taken out
@MsTheresaKelly1 No the problem is that it IS enforceable. It's the 16th amendment, and it HAS to go. The income tax, taxes you for your production, by that i mean when you work you give up your time, what is the one thing you can never give back, and here comes the fed, to take more and more of your compensation for you time as they can. Our founding fathers are rolling in there graves for the crap we put up with on the federal level.
51% of American income tax dollars go to funding war. Stop paying the federal income tax and we as a nation will put a stop to this war! I stopped paying the federal income tax last year along with many others I know. Stop funding your own oppression!
@MsTheresaKelly1 And all of social security, is payed out, and non goes to a "trust fund," should we stop paying that as well? I think we should have never have involved ourselves in the middle eat. Then again, social security, medicare, Medicaid, are all a crock as well, if you cannot admit that, then you are either naive, an idiot, or misinformed... Our federal government has grown far too big. This has been going on for a century now, time to end it all, and return to our roots.
THE US GLOBAL AGENDA IS ONLY ABOUT OIL, PRIOR TO 9/11, WITH CONTRACTS SIGNED, A FALSE FLAG ATTACK WAS NEEDED TO FORCE THE TALIBANS HAND INTO A BROKEN DEAL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO TAP INTO OIL SUPPLIES FROM THE CASPIAN, NW AFGHANISTAN REGION. ITS ONLY ABOUT OIL,THEN THEIRS IRAQ. YOU NEED TO RESEARCH AND WAKE UP, DONT LET THE POWERS AND CONTROL LIE TO YOU.
Colorado, Utah and Wyoming oil shale is more abundant than ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN OILS COMBINED...
We still have Texas, New Mexico, California, The Gulf Coast, Alaska, Ohio, And you name it we have it...
Fuck off! WE are letting the world deplete it's oil, at our benefit, and will sell you ours at a very high premium. Sorry guys, you lose we win. As always.
@Pumpernickel006900 I was at the gulf coast day 42-48 helping out, where where you? I live in Texas, spent time in Mississippi Louisiana and Florida during that period. What where you doing besides being a douche. You wish death upon someone, for what? idiot...
@asleeperj mh i was just wondering y every american acts like a "douche" saying fuck the world whenever the world criticizes the way ur government acts.. do u really feel like fuck the world, then ud be considered Nazi in Germany... not to mention the racial issues overseas. Ask urself if u would have helped when it only affected Mexico, i say NO !
@Pumpernickel006900 You mean like when we give a TRILLION in aid across the world each year? I'd rather that money be spent here. You mean like after the earthquake in haiti, we sat back and did nothing? NO. I hate the fact that America has an interventionist agenda brought forth by the progressives, and neo-cons, but this i assure you is not my fault. You don't have a leg to stand on, and will continue to be owned by my libertarian perspective.
@asleeperj weird that they "discover" oil in all those states they aid generously... Afghanistan, HAITI, and °1 - Kurdistan, created in the name of the so called "liberterian perspective", accidentally the part of Iraq containing most of its oil desposits!!!!...
the "interventionist agenda" wont intervene in already sucked countries, they sell them weapons, make them multi borrowers and install dictatorships to keep them quiet, u intervene on problems the "progressives" made on their own..
@asleeperj you fukers, dotn look at MONEY lot at percent.percatnage sie you dont give as mucha s other coutnries and u dont give a trillion or anything enar that amount. and you get this money of the suffering of inncoent epople. you know drug companies in mexico force people to work on thier fields, and then ot fo their profits they give some money to charity. thts wat the us is like
Why is bush still alive he should be fucking hanged for what he has don. 9/11, LETTING HIS BROTHER BE THE MAYOR OR CONGRESMAN OF FLORIDA and being in this weird organisation (the organisation is realy hard to find).
just know im american and im disgusted with my government. we should leave the world alone and the american sheeple are completely divided on everything and cluless becuase of all the lies were told, laughable!!
The US also wanted the Heroin trade back in business. There are also Gems to be found in Afghanistan as well. The pipeline was the main reason for the attack however. The Taliban were told give us the pipeline or we attack. So the US attacked. Using 9/11 as the excuse. No Afghans were responsible for 9/11 however.
this war is such bullshit and the reason the media gives us is they have weapons of mass destruction. well thats a bunch of bullshit they dont even have a airforce and they live in caves but you mean to tell me they have weapons of mass destruction. but there are really countries that have weapons of mass destruction like russia germany china possibly korea but why dont we attack them? oh yea they dont have oil. stop the war stop killing innocent people. we have plenty of oil here lets dril
Before the gay nazi zionist cleansing or beautiful children, our world was a much happier place, there is not one reason on earth to harm children, why would anyone forget when we all had jobs and peace on earth, can anyone go back about fifteen years, all this war is gay.
okay...so afghanistan has almost no significant oil reserves. the only oil pipeline even CONSIDERED in afghan was in the 90's, and that project was scrapped before work even began...american contractors have paid the taliban for protection many times before the war...so they arent in our way...if anything the taliban would have profited from an oil pipeline...the war is supporting local ethnic groups to rise up, creating various military factions that would hinder any progress of a pipeline
the taliban dissapeard from power in 2003...so why hadnt work begun on the pipeline then? this is absolute stupidity
you conspiracy fucks are the ignorant ones. you refuse to believe the facts; you make up your own. you talk about things of which you know nothing, and you believe everything you read on the internet and watch on tv..fucking idiots
dude i dont no wat ur talking about r u saying that this war is for oil becuase trust me it is... u can argue all u want... but i have proof.. ill tell u if u comment back
@Spellman5150 ,Type in "USGS projects in afghanistan".Oil Pipelines are just a part of this war. The afghan government are no angels either,60% are druglords. This is allabout bad business,oil and opium.
@Spellman5150. Hamid Karzai, up until the time the US put him into power was advisor and consultant to the oil giant UNOCAL. It was he who negotiated a pipeline deal with the then Afghan Taliban government. This isn't a matter for debate, it's in the public domain if you bother to check it out. If you don't now smell a rat, and are at least curious enough check out the facts, OK go back to sleep.
@Spellman,Russia knew of 15 oil feilds in northern afghanistan since the 60's to the 80's. U.S. Geological Survey and Afghanistan Ministry of Mines and Industry ,worked on a joint program to find how much oil was in northern afghanistan. If this war is to "support ethnic groups to rise up" as you say, then it sure has failed to this day. Oh and tell me the death count between civilians and actual taliban?You will be shocked at the figures.
@Spellman5150 , so I guess your calling USGS liars, for they found a large amount of oil and gas in Northern Afghanistan. Actually the russians origionally found it, yet the land surveys made it clear that there was more than previously estimated.
well then yes i am. the only thing oil and afghanistan have in common is that there was proposed pipeline to travel THROUGH the country. we could have traded oil before the war (U.S. and taliban had good relations). hell if anything, the war has made it (if there was any oil worth getting) harder to get because the war has spawned even MORE tribal groups that are fighting amongst each other. it would have been easier to pay off the few that were there than the now multiple mujahiden and others.
@Spellman5150 yo fukin tool real the cia documetns. the tlaiban refused to have americn troops in afhganitna when striking the deal. they were ok wiht teh deal up untill the point america sed theyw nted thier troops there to secure interests. taliban said no and the cia litelraly said well get our oil 'either with a carpte of bombs or a carpet of gold'.... they refused the peiplen on american terms,
i agree afghanistan is for oil and gas lines, that is why the west is there. look at how blair said he would of gone into iraq if not for wmd? that says it all.
It's not a tribal conflict, but a border dispute fueled by the ruling ethnic group of Pakistan, the Punjabis - who do not live in the border region.
They believe they must fuel this conflict in order to keep the territory of Pakistan intact. The Taliban is a threat to Afghanistan, but it is actually a tool of Pakistan.
Focus on the tribal aspects of Afghanistan will actually help to strengthen the country.
Actually, the Taliban is a Pakistani paramilitary org created to suppress Pashtun and Balochi separatist movements and to keep Afghanistan too weak and unstable to assert renegotiation of the Durand Line. It's not a tribal conflict, but a border dispute fueled by the ruling ethnic group of Pakistan, the Punjabis - who do not live in the border region.
(3) Turkmenistan has only enough gas to supply 4% of Pakistan's needs, while Iran can supply 100% of Pakistan's needs; and
(4) Under TAP, Pakistan would have to pay transportation fees to Afghanistan, while under IPI, it will be collecting transportation fees from India, an obviously more favorable deal.
The TAP pipeline story is a red herring. Pakistan signed the deal with Bridas in 1995 in bad faith, because:
(1) Bhutto knew they would never allow for stability in Afghanistan for reasons connected with the Durand Line and the Punjabi domination of Pakistan;
(2) By 1995, Pakistan had already been in negotiations with Iran and India for the IPI pipeline since 1989, that deal has recently been signed;
to think all of the poor innocent people and soilders that have died for the untouched reasources in afghanistan..... the fact is afghanistan as a nation can not be won through war.. proven fact the americans & english have tried to many times just a shame the public are soo brain washed by BULLSHIT!!! tut tut tut
@nedvedm13 dude i dont feel sory for the sodleirs 2 reaosns.
1`. soldiers had teh choice they cud have researched it, and they shdnt have gone. they know better then to serve and follow roders blidnly. tha nazis taught us that
2. beucase of thier chocie to figh the governemtn can use em to get wat they want. THEY CHOOSE TO BE POLITICAL PAWNS. if tehy chose not to be pawns, wud USA be able to do this? nope. weep for teh civilians
nine eleven was a setup from the government as an EXCUSE to go to these countrys and invade, The start of the new world order, one government, one bank, it'll be hell
Why do people think it is morally reprehensible for a countrys leaders to be concerned about its supply of oil?
Would they really prefer it if their leaders said - I am too morally pure to worry about oil - so the price of petrol is going to quadruple and we will probably run out next month
Our civilisation is dependent on oil - of course politicians give a high priority to its supply. That said it is cheaper to buy oil than invade a country - so its not all about the oil.
Why do people think it is so morally reprehensible for a countrys leaders to be concerned about its supply of oil?
Would they really prefer it if their leaders said - I am too morally pure to worry about oil - so the price of petrol is going to quadruple and we will probably run out next month
Our civilisation is dependent on oil - of course politicians give a high priority to its supply. That said it is cheaper to buy oil than invade a country - so its not all about the oil.
@pclose11 well siad! its nto morally reprehensivle for a countrys leader tot hink a bout oil, its morally rephrensible to murder childeren to make the deal. yes ebucase we cant make the deal peacefully. right
just a little comment if america was so scared about oil a more instable reagion would be mexico the real reason we whent in was due to the complex talban cells operating there which had the abilty to strike at europhe and america why we are still there is we have made it worse and the lawless areas have become a talban are once again and we fear if we leave now thease areas will regain the abilty to strike at america and europhe again
The reason is, because the US can easily take the Mexican oil at a later date and no one else is in position to interfere with that. However several countries can get to the middle east and central Asia easier than we can. Thus the philosophy goes that you get the oil that will be more disputed 1st then go after that which you pretty much control already.
after all its china Russia that invaded iraq killing over a million maybe the same will happen in agfanistan they run gitmo abu Graib so yes in that case they are the crinimals how some americans think the pot calling the kettle dirty yet again
Laugh all you want, US economy is going down fast. China is going up. So your own government is going to kick you out of your house because you can't afford and raise the price so no American can afford it and China's gonna buy it, live in it and laugh at your ignorant and arrogant @ss histerically.
its not just pipeline .....its 5 trillion cubic meter of gas reserves,uranium reserves ,gold reserves,oil and other precious metal reserves in addition to unexplored reserves.....cause these estimates were of soviet union and they never could explore more in afghanistan coz their never got a chance....soviets were willing to spendevery penny to remain there...and the same thing brought these anglo-europeans there...their greed gonna get them screwed....:)....
HA! like we need protecting we need for troops here where we know that we are salf and pertected. not hundreds of miles away....dont get me rong i dont really give a crap about if war is good or bad but i just wish the government would just tell us the truth!
I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!!!!! from the very start i just knew that we was in iraq and Afghanistan for something precious and not only did i think that the US was after land and wiping out a muslim community for oil!. its just another way to conker.the guvernment scare US people into thinking they are at were for all the right resions such as perteting us...
CapnBooBoo (--- THAT is clear as a SUNNY DAY ... 30 trillion DOLLARS ... LOOK AT USA bases around the world ... MOST of them 90% of them are in ARABIAN peninsulla .. OIL KOSOVO BASE is build to guard oil pipeline ...
Iran and Venezuela specifically called off selling oil to the US., these are sanctions againts the United States, ofcourse the US and ISrael will call IRan a terrorists state, its why oil is so expensive, the Iraqi oil now belongs to criminals who want it for the future, to stay rich and have power.
most of the world hates us now because of Bush`s lies about the wars we started,We should just be like the rest of this world and buy our oil instead of killing innocents for it.Would you put one drop of gas in your car if you knew a child got killed in the process of bringing that gas to our country????
@LionHearrt THE US GLOBAL AGENDA IS ONLY ABOUT OIL, PRIOR TO 9/11, WITH CONTRACTS SIGNED, A FALSE FLAG ATTACK WAS NEEDED TO FORCE THE TALIBANS HAND INTO A BROKEN DEAL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO TAP INTO OIL SUPPLIES FROM THE CASPIAN, NW AFGHANISTAN REGION. ITS ONLY ABOUT OIL,THEN THEIRS IRAQ. YOU NEED TO RESEARCH AND WAKE UP, DONT LET THE POWERS AND CONTROL LIE TO YOU.
@2012bringiton No, the global monetary giants are all about funding such wars of aggression. It matters not about oil, it's just convenient right now, because of the demand.
youd have then conclude that the u.s. is not a democracy or fighting for democracy. youre also postulating that increased oil prices here, or economic change in general, validates the violence it takes to maintain this economy. a couple of thousand people deciding the fate of millions.
Yes the U.S. has plenty of its own oil. Also America practices COMMUNISM. Google American Communism and read what we are doing. We are going Against the Constitutions intent.
REad MARX. WE practice COMMUNISM. Think about it. People could afford health care and mortgage payments if they had no income tax. Or only tax the upper upper Class. If someone makes 52,000 a yr let them keep it and so on. But if you make like 1 million then tax them at like 5%. Your income tax goes to pay the interest on the money the FED prints. When it's the up to the congress to create the money, not some 2nd party. INterest FREE
Its amazing how easily americans are brainwashed! The war has nothing to do with terrorism and everything to do with oil!
fognog3 1 week ago
Now that we are out of Iraq, they are going to spend a couple of more years concocting and idea as to why to go to with Iran.
blackbolt75 3 weeks ago
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blackbolt75 3 weeks ago
Why shouldn't it be about the oil. We gave them a better life and freedom and opportunity and they are now going to be one of the wealthiest nations in the world! We deserve some of their oil! Their resources that could never be tapped are now coming to fruition! All because of us! They have more gold, oil, gas, minerals than anyone and now they don't kill women for reading and getting educated! We deserve some of their resources. Our men and women died for their freedom and better life!
VORTEX1155 3 months ago
@VORTEX1155 ". Our men and women died for their freedom and better life!"
If that truely were the case you would think they would be more grateful..
Has it even occured to you that made they didnt what the help from the "US" in the first place..
badpanda84 2 months ago
@badpanda84 No! I can remember for many years cries for help as they slaughtered the women and children and so many were begging for us to stop the atrocities. So many are grateful but the government is so corrupt! Karzi has to go!
VORTEX1155 2 months ago
@VORTEX1155 OK when exactly has Iraq begged for the US to top the atrocities --
Iraq has never asked the US for help.. -- besides the US is the cause of alot of the atrocites that happen in Iraq.
badpanda84 2 months ago
@badpanda84 Propaganda badpanda84. Get your facts clear. That is rhetoric. All war has causalities. The largest embassy in the world is in Iraq and only Sadre is the one that wanted us gone. Over 15K contractors will still be there. Obama didn't tell you that. They need our protection from Iran. Over 350K dead people in mass graves and 35K Kurds killed with Sadams chemical warfare on his own people led to the US freeing them and now they will be one of the wealthiest nations in the world!
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VORTEX1155 3 months ago
of course its about oil almost all military activity in the middle east for the past 50 years has been related to oil, and its not only the US that has been involved all the worlds super powers have their hands in the middle east. Its only natural that the world super powers enter a race to obtain or monopolize the worlds natural resources its all about power and control, but my question is in obtaining or monopolizing these resources who is being benefited?
hai682 3 months ago
Holyshit. you absolute genius, you've worked out that countries need freedom and oil! Took you a while didn't it. Here are the simple facts: the world now runs on figures percentages and risk management. Invading afghanistan was required to remove a mass murdering sycophant from power. These are bad bad people, responsible for mass graves in afghan pakistan and on every other border their country meets. In return, the savior coalition is often offered oil contracts, which WE NEED.
tantorecords 4 months ago
I see comments saying that Afghanistan doesn't produce any oil. That isn't the issue. The Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline is to bring natural gas resources from Turkenistan "through" Afghanistan to Pakistan-India and markets. UNOCAL was negotiating with the Taliban in the 90's for this at the same time Dick Cheney was CEO of Haliburton when it got involved with planning natural gas access in Turkmenistan. Negotiations with Taliban ended but after invasion (after 911) in 2002, pipeline was agreed to.
pugcasso 4 months ago
part2... There was a big focus on getting a Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline even back in the 1990's. Taliban visited Texas at UNOCAL's headquarters. Dick Cheney was CEO of Haliburton which was arranging plans to get drilling in Turkmenistan. This shows a direct involvement of this future Bush vice president in a plan for this Turkmenistan gas and Trans-Afghan pipeline. One major reason for invading Afghanistan (but reason projected into media was the convenient story of Taliban harbouring Bin Laden)
pugcasso 4 months ago
@pugcasso Agreed, in the 1970's the soviets did tests on the most promising oil sites, they reckon at least 100million barrels of oil just in the places they had access to, and this is bearing in mind that this estimate was made assuming the use of a 70's refinery which has a much higher wastage percentage than modern day refineries, so we can probably say around 150 million barrels. The point is that refineries are not all that difficult to build, finding oil is the hard part.
tantorecords 4 months ago
WHY DONT THE AMERICANS GO TO NORTH KOREA? NO OIL? OR THE CORRUPT AFRICAN NATIONS-NOT MIDDLE EAST? CAUSE THERES NO OIL? AMERICANS ARE DUMB FUCKS! THEY BELIEVE EVERYTHING THEIR GOVERNMENT TELLS THEM! BRAINWASHED SHEEP! A GREEDY RUTHLESS NATION! LIKE THE BRITISH EMPIRE BEFORE THEM, THIS OIL GREEDY NATION WILL FALL.
damienbrennan1 4 months ago
@damienbrennan1 "WHY DONT THE AMERICANS GO TO NORTH KOREA? NO OIL?"
Actually they dont invade North Korea ( even after they openly admitted to weapons of mass destructions) because they know they will get there ass kicked.. remeber North Korea has a standing army of 1 million soliders
badpanda84 3 months ago
@badpanda84 you do know america has a larger military than that right>?, plus N koreas airforce is second rate, it isnt even as good as S korea.....
applegiant11 2 months ago
@applegiant11 -- Of course none of that is relvant -- because just like in Vietnam -- the Americans can kill 10 VC for every one US solider and still lose..
Even if the US has a bigger army that North Korea -- they wont be able to invade North Korea without suffering a large number of casulaties -- and that is a price the US isnt willing to pay
badpanda84 2 months ago
Heroin and Oil is all it is. The terrorists?are you fucking joking? we beat any legitimate terror groups out of there years ago. Now we're just there for our personal gain making it look like we're fighting so we get more funding which in turn leads to the unjust death of american soldiers! The "warlords" are drug lords how the hell do people think they fund their "terrorism" i'm just sick of us playing world police and on top of that being greedy via energy and lying about our motives (drugs).
don2neptune 5 months ago
@don2neptune Afghanistan does not now, nor has it ever produced a single barrel of oil. Don't you know that? Such development would take decades.
goldenthroat86 5 months ago in playlist Operation Edelweiß II: Tora! Tora! Bora! (Oil & Raw Opium)
@goldenthroat86 i stand corrected thank you, you're right Afghanistan has zero oil
don2neptune 5 months ago
@don2neptune I never said Afghanistan had no oil. I merely stated the fact that Afghanistan has never PRODUCED any oil...not a single barrel. Afghanistan actually has significant deposits of oil; nothing special, but significant. It's estimated that Afghanistan's oil deposits would rank anywhere from 25th-30th among all countries. That's not terribly impressive and would take decades to develop.
goldenthroat86 5 months ago
@goldenthroat86 ok i totally agree with u with "Afganistan has never produced a single barell of oil" BUT the pipeline which goes through Afganistan is want they want they want control of !!!!
Fighting4PEACE97 5 months ago
@don2neptune u got sumet wrong u sed "you're right Afghanistan has zero oil " u meant to say "you're right Afghanistan has PRODUCED zero oil" because they have pipelines which the US want control of it cos its the most cheapest way and best way ! :P stop sticking up for them
Dnt get me wrong if they are there to fight the bad people then that by all means right but for pipelines thats wrong unless they have permission to use it
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don2neptune 5 months ago
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for that we brazilians give our oil to USA we dont have war stuffs
we lose our oil but we dont care just stay alive is important
omgVirgeMaria 6 months ago
but it remains the old way. restin in search and control thr things yoy need!!!
JustTrash78 6 months ago
Look at The Grand Chessboard /watch?v=t-XIeb879SY this is what its all about.
giptonsilly 6 months ago
FREE OIL
Free oil for the USA
The nation of Iraq raped.... Afghanistan as well
What oil is paid for is paid for in US dollars which are valued at half the face value due to the total mis management of the US economy
The citizens of the USA carry the debt burden and the rest of the world carries the rape of the world by the USA
FREE OIL for the USA
jsf 19 5 2011
hotsatsuma 8 months ago
Afghanistan is not an oil producing country and never has been. It does not now, nor has it ever produced a drop of oil!
goldenthroat86 8 months ago
@goldenthroat86 no, just opium.
rightsman123 8 months ago
@goldenthroat86 Exactly, so the oil there is still there...
CallusDnb 5 months ago
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The enormous gap between what US leaders do in the world and what Americans think their leaders are doing is one of the great propaganda accomplishments of the dominant political mythology." - Michael Parenti
well said. Until we realize who is running our country Nothing will change.
Every Citizen must take it upon themselves to understand The Federal Reserve. It is a privately owned bank that overtook our govmrnt in 1913 and is responsible for ruining our currency and enslaving our people.
mgrealdeals 9 months ago
Im with the terorist ! :)
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pahtai11365 5 months ago
@justtakeiteasy The Goverment comes from rich "upper "class families that havnt had the normal worry that most Families have had, They have always been rapped in cotton wool, They were born with silver spoons in there mouth and money coming out there ass. And they are greedy and take everything they can.
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@justtakeiteasy Doesnt make a difference if you vote or not, The Goverment knows how angry the civilians(Peasants) are about Foreign Policy. But the Goverment is above the Law and they call the shots they dont really understand. And there are countless thousands of civilians who need there benefits to survive and support there families the goverment would be fools to take it away, Crime would go to an all time high.
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@justtakeiteasy I have lost alot friends in both Iraq and Afghan most were just too young teens and early 20s! And i have seen 2 Friends come back 1 lost 2 limbs and the other wasnt injured but went on the run for the Army he ended up drinking alot fighting and he lost it, Now hes sectioned and is classed a danger to the Public shows there are only 1 winners in war, The corrupt goverment.
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@martynrobin121 it depends how u deal with the military and what happened while u served.... he should of been 100 percent sure what he was getting himself into and the dangers physical and mental
lvrpatriot01 10 months ago
@lvrpatriot01 Thats the thing, Nobody knows what they are getting into, They are brainwashed into thinking Fighting for your country agaist evil terroists, Most are too young to know. They are pawns and puppets for the corrupt goverments of the west, Who drink blood of the innocent civilians for there oil interests, They dont care about civilians, They are helping Israel in genocide and Saudis in the Sunny and Shia conflicts and most of th world, U.S and U.K are behind everything.
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@justtakeiteasy Makes no difference really, There will always be fat rich goverment who sit behind desk and hide playing war games while there soldiers are been killed or made mentally ill. Its life and human nature its been going on for Thousands of years but i suppose all nations have the right to defend themselfs. My friend in the Forces lost 2 limbs hes 21 lives in a Council flat with no life and future thats the thanks he got off the goverment and country its a joke.
martynrobin121 10 months ago
@justtakeiteasy People will always join the Forces, With the economy going down hill for alot of young people going in the Forces is a good future with good pay and great benefits and the chance to see the world and fight for your "country"(Goverment). The Forces are just puppets for the fat greedy rich pigs who sit behind a desk playing war games.
martynrobin121 11 months ago
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Russia, China, Iran defeat U.S. in the “pipeline wars”
While the West kills thousands of civilians in Afghanistan and Pakistan and ravages both countries, Russia, China and Iran are acquiring the crucial energy riches of Central Asia and the Caspian area without firing a shot.
...Sucked in USA!
eckyspondoolie 1 year ago
Why do you think the US is so actively pursuing the "war on terror?" It is more rightly called "wars for resources". All the Iraq, Afghanistan, etc, business shows is to what lengths we will go to to secure energy stores. I am waiting to see what lasting good our excursions into countries and arming them or killing them does. How can it make friends with their populace? Really, what is life like now for the average Iraqi? We are bullies like the rest.
jjstoney1 1 year ago
Funny how if the west didnt invade afghan they wouldnt of got there oil pipeline and there puppet goverment whitch they had wanted since 1998 they were also planning the invasion of afghan since 1998 years before 9/11 and what the west is doing in the middle-east is just wrong and barbaric
martynrobin121 1 year ago
Afghanistan, is one of the world's richest countries, is sitting on mineral and petroleum reserves worth an estimated 3 trillion dollars. mineral deposits are worth a thousand billion dollars -- not a thousand million dollars but a thousand billion
peyman3061 1 year ago
THIS COULDA HELPED OUR ECONOMY BAD
ZEROEVILDARKCOOL 1 year ago
I hate to tell you, but the oil reserves in Afghanistan make up exactly 0% of the world's oil supply. The reason for this is because there is no oil there, in other parts of the middle east there may be, but there's none in Afghanistan.
Sevenoneight7 1 year ago
@Sevenoneight7 Although AFG doesn't have oil, it has 1 Trillion dollars worth of untapped resources. And the OIL / NATURAL GAS is in the CASPIAN SEA , the whole point is to build a pipeline at the Pakistani Karachi Port.
AdebillYuden 1 year ago
@Sevenoneight7 afghanistan has no oil but western companies could raise it up to 4.5 million barrels a day in about 15 years which makes it 5% of world oil production.
Khanw000000000t 1 year ago
@Sevenoneight7 afghanistan is an untouched place it may be possible that there is a large resources of oil because in Baluchistan there is a large amout of natural gase and other resources same in iran along with oil this is near places to afghanistan.
salimkhan007 11 months ago
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oil? oil!? who said anything about oil? bitches you cooking?
angleofanarchy 1 year ago
oil? oil!? who said anything about oil? bitches you cooking?
angleofanarchy 1 year ago
nobody is better than anybody else.. foreigners jsut want to kill peole so tey cna get their hadns on expadning comerical empires. and gorups liek teht albina want to opress ppl to practice thier fucked up views of religions. and the innocent people. theyre not in this. but they have to live thru it
veritbo 1 year ago
whats sad is the civilains that live in afghanistan. there lot is either the taliban who opress them, or foreigners who want to isntall a puppet government (via a bloody war that will murder many civilians) that will sell out their country's resources at prices unfair for them.
veritbo 1 year ago
@Aptitude drug runners? theyre bastards no douibtm but were alot worse. thye stopped the drug trade did hyou know that? after we kciekd em out nwo teh drug trade is as HIGH AS EVER
veritbo 1 year ago
@Aptitude are u fuked in the head? its israel. as far as im covnered. ameirca is more fo a threat to peace and jsutice then thsoe rag tag isnrugents in paksitan.
veritbo 1 year ago
how many more children have to die like this?
veritbo 1 year ago
you woudl wthink ww2 the nazis, the japs and the tialians and spaniards would ha e tuaght ppl NOT TO FOLLOW ORDERS BLINDLY BUT TO QUESTION THEM. no they havent.
veritbo 1 year ago
hwo many inncoent ppl have 2 die 4 thier game? n teh sodleirs, i dont fel sorry 4 'em. they chose 2 fite, thye mayb pawns BUT THEY CHOSE 2 B PAWNS. they knew beta, they cuda refused n if they had refused 2 simply follow orders blindly then this wudlt be happenin. teh US govenrment wudnt b able 2 do this w/o soldiers. no doubt they'e bein lied 2, but they got the choice to question their orders. n if they did the research, n quesiton their orders we wudnt hav this problem so its their fault 2.
veritbo 1 year ago
most people in the UK still think they're looking for terrorists in caves.
Y0UTUBERCUL0SIS 1 year ago
electrolysis and tesla gravity generators render oil/gas useless and would collapse stock exchanges and capitalism overnight. no need to be in afghanistan atall.
sexybritgent 1 year ago
@sexybritgent
but, if you were a market trader, you'd sell yesterday's tomatos, before putting today's on the shelf, in order to maximize proffits
Y0UTUBERCUL0SIS 1 year ago
@sexybritgent
but, if you were a market trader, you'd sell yesterday's tomatos, before putting today's on the shelf, in order to maximize proffits
Y0UTUBERCUL0SIS 1 year ago
@asleeperj
Again, it is not enforcable, the fed income tax is for profits and gains not for wages and labor! It is an illegal tax and that's why I stopped paying it last year. Have you seen the YouTube video Show Me The Law? It's excellent!
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
@MsTheresaKelly1 Let me stop you at profits and gains. First when you supply someone with time, and they supply you with money, that in and of itself is profit. We have multiple forms of taxation in the united stats. Profit, investment, savings, labor, death, payroll, the list goes on. The income tax, taxes those who make a profit through labor. The capital gains tax, taxes those who make money on investments. The payroll tax, taxes those who employ....
asleeperj 1 year ago
@MsTheresaKelly1 The income tax is stated in the 16th amendment. YES the income tax is unconstitutional, so what did they do, write an amendment. This amendment, to this day still exists, and gives congress the power to levy taxes on income.
asleeperj 1 year ago
Excuse the typo
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
@2012bringiton
The majority of it is about oil however it's also about a full economic takeover of those countries, from pharmasuiticals to electrical power American corporations are there taking over those industries.
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
@asleeperj
What you're saying is true, the point I'm making though is that the Federal Income Tax is an unenforceable tax. You can zero out your W2, and not pay it. SS and Medicare tax are automatically taken out
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
@MsTheresaKelly1 No the problem is that it IS enforceable. It's the 16th amendment, and it HAS to go. The income tax, taxes you for your production, by that i mean when you work you give up your time, what is the one thing you can never give back, and here comes the fed, to take more and more of your compensation for you time as they can. Our founding fathers are rolling in there graves for the crap we put up with on the federal level.
asleeperj 1 year ago
51% of American income tax dollars go to funding war. Stop paying the federal income tax and we as a nation will put a stop to this war! I stopped paying the federal income tax last year along with many others I know. Stop funding your own oppression!
MsTheresaKelly1 1 year ago
@MsTheresaKelly1 Have fun in prison, moron.
battleax86 1 year ago
@MsTheresaKelly1 And all of social security, is payed out, and non goes to a "trust fund," should we stop paying that as well? I think we should have never have involved ourselves in the middle eat. Then again, social security, medicare, Medicaid, are all a crock as well, if you cannot admit that, then you are either naive, an idiot, or misinformed... Our federal government has grown far too big. This has been going on for a century now, time to end it all, and return to our roots.
asleeperj 1 year ago
@MsTheresaKelly1 tell the soldiers to sotp follwong orders blidnly.
veritbo 1 year ago
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THE US GLOBAL AGENDA IS ONLY ABOUT OIL, PRIOR TO 9/11, WITH CONTRACTS SIGNED, A FALSE FLAG ATTACK WAS NEEDED TO FORCE THE TALIBANS HAND INTO A BROKEN DEAL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO TAP INTO OIL SUPPLIES FROM THE CASPIAN, NW AFGHANISTAN REGION. ITS ONLY ABOUT OIL,THEN THEIRS IRAQ. YOU NEED TO RESEARCH AND WAKE UP, DONT LET THE POWERS AND CONTROL LIE TO YOU.
2012bringiton 1 year ago
Todays news.... ! OIL IN AFGHANISTAN !!!
Seriously FUCK those US WAR MONGERS !
lieberat 1 year ago
I'm with the 'terrorists'..
sucram7979 1 year ago
oh yeah? Who would control the silk road then? Russia? Get real we saw that already and what a miserable failure that was.
sundancekid122 1 year ago
Ya gotta Boost the Volume on these...I can HARDLY HEAR THE SOUNDTRACK
Hodson2000 1 year ago
Colorado, Utah and Wyoming oil shale is more abundant than ALL OF THE MIDDLE EASTERN OILS COMBINED...
We still have Texas, New Mexico, California, The Gulf Coast, Alaska, Ohio, And you name it we have it...
Fuck off! WE are letting the world deplete it's oil, at our benefit, and will sell you ours at a very high premium. Sorry guys, you lose we win. As always.
asleeperj 1 year ago
@asleeperj I hope u die soon, f.e. drowned in the gulf of mexico covered in oil something like that. I bet your fucking broke anyways
Pumpernickel006900 1 year ago
@Pumpernickel006900 I was at the gulf coast day 42-48 helping out, where where you? I live in Texas, spent time in Mississippi Louisiana and Florida during that period. What where you doing besides being a douche. You wish death upon someone, for what? idiot...
asleeperj 1 year ago 2
@asleeperj mh i was just wondering y every american acts like a "douche" saying fuck the world whenever the world criticizes the way ur government acts.. do u really feel like fuck the world, then ud be considered Nazi in Germany... not to mention the racial issues overseas. Ask urself if u would have helped when it only affected Mexico, i say NO !
Pumpernickel006900 1 year ago
@Pumpernickel006900 ..whether u would have helped
Pumpernickel006900 1 year ago
@Pumpernickel006900 You mean like when we give a TRILLION in aid across the world each year? I'd rather that money be spent here. You mean like after the earthquake in haiti, we sat back and did nothing? NO. I hate the fact that America has an interventionist agenda brought forth by the progressives, and neo-cons, but this i assure you is not my fault. You don't have a leg to stand on, and will continue to be owned by my libertarian perspective.
asleeperj 1 year ago
@asleeperj weird that they "discover" oil in all those states they aid generously... Afghanistan, HAITI, and °1 - Kurdistan, created in the name of the so called "liberterian perspective", accidentally the part of Iraq containing most of its oil desposits!!!!...
the "interventionist agenda" wont intervene in already sucked countries, they sell them weapons, make them multi borrowers and install dictatorships to keep them quiet, u intervene on problems the "progressives" made on their own..
Pumpernickel006900 1 year ago
@Pumpernickel006900 how could G.W.Bush no about weapons of mass destruction in Iraque..? Papa kept the bills :DD
Pumpernickel006900 1 year ago
@Pumpernickel006900 hmm. Not much to argue with here.
asleeperj 1 year ago
@asleeperj you fukers, dotn look at MONEY lot at percent.percatnage sie you dont give as mucha s other coutnries and u dont give a trillion or anything enar that amount. and you get this money of the suffering of inncoent epople. you know drug companies in mexico force people to work on thier fields, and then ot fo their profits they give some money to charity. thts wat the us is like
veritbo 1 year ago
Why is bush still alive he should be fucking hanged for what he has don. 9/11, LETTING HIS BROTHER BE THE MAYOR OR CONGRESMAN OF FLORIDA and being in this weird organisation (the organisation is realy hard to find).
122boxer 1 year ago
just know im american and im disgusted with my government. we should leave the world alone and the american sheeple are completely divided on everything and cluless becuase of all the lies were told, laughable!!
yourallstoopid 1 year ago
The US also wanted the Heroin trade back in business. There are also Gems to be found in Afghanistan as well. The pipeline was the main reason for the attack however. The Taliban were told give us the pipeline or we attack. So the US attacked. Using 9/11 as the excuse. No Afghans were responsible for 9/11 however.
Shadowbear1955 1 year ago
this war is such bullshit and the reason the media gives us is they have weapons of mass destruction. well thats a bunch of bullshit they dont even have a airforce and they live in caves but you mean to tell me they have weapons of mass destruction. but there are really countries that have weapons of mass destruction like russia germany china possibly korea but why dont we attack them? oh yea they dont have oil. stop the war stop killing innocent people. we have plenty of oil here lets dril
lakaiguy17 1 year ago
Before the gay nazi zionist cleansing or beautiful children, our world was a much happier place, there is not one reason on earth to harm children, why would anyone forget when we all had jobs and peace on earth, can anyone go back about fifteen years, all this war is gay.
badattitude77769 2 years ago
okay...so afghanistan has almost no significant oil reserves. the only oil pipeline even CONSIDERED in afghan was in the 90's, and that project was scrapped before work even began...american contractors have paid the taliban for protection many times before the war...so they arent in our way...if anything the taliban would have profited from an oil pipeline...the war is supporting local ethnic groups to rise up, creating various military factions that would hinder any progress of a pipeline
Spellman5150 2 years ago
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the taliban dissapeard from power in 2003...so why hadnt work begun on the pipeline then? this is absolute stupidity
you conspiracy fucks are the ignorant ones. you refuse to believe the facts; you make up your own. you talk about things of which you know nothing, and you believe everything you read on the internet and watch on tv..fucking idiots
Spellman5150 2 years ago
dude i dont no wat ur talking about r u saying that this war is for oil becuase trust me it is... u can argue all u want... but i have proof.. ill tell u if u comment back
MHaQuE32 2 years ago
HAHA show me the proof you dumb fuck
Spellman5150 1 year ago
@Spellman5150 ,Type in "USGS projects in afghanistan".Oil Pipelines are just a part of this war. The afghan government are no angels either,60% are druglords. This is allabout bad business,oil and opium.
LIONOFTHEBRAVE 1 year ago
@Spellman5150 Maybe you would like to ask them yourself.Oil and Natural Gas
C. J. Wandrey
Project Chief, Oil and Gas Resource Assessment of Afghanistan
MS 939, DFC
Denver, CO 80225
Voice: (303) 236-5341
Email: cwandrey @ usgs . gov
LIONOFTHEBRAVE 1 year ago
so what do you believe it is going on in afghanistan? Because people is dying there.
engellul 2 years ago
@Spellman5150. Hamid Karzai, up until the time the US put him into power was advisor and consultant to the oil giant UNOCAL. It was he who negotiated a pipeline deal with the then Afghan Taliban government. This isn't a matter for debate, it's in the public domain if you bother to check it out. If you don't now smell a rat, and are at least curious enough check out the facts, OK go back to sleep.
archdeaconj 1 year ago
@Spellman,Russia knew of 15 oil feilds in northern afghanistan since the 60's to the 80's. U.S. Geological Survey and Afghanistan Ministry of Mines and Industry ,worked on a joint program to find how much oil was in northern afghanistan. If this war is to "support ethnic groups to rise up" as you say, then it sure has failed to this day. Oh and tell me the death count between civilians and actual taliban?You will be shocked at the figures.
ANTIRACIST2012 1 year ago
@Spellman5150 , so I guess your calling USGS liars, for they found a large amount of oil and gas in Northern Afghanistan. Actually the russians origionally found it, yet the land surveys made it clear that there was more than previously estimated.
LIONOFTHEBRAVE 1 year ago
well then yes i am. the only thing oil and afghanistan have in common is that there was proposed pipeline to travel THROUGH the country. we could have traded oil before the war (U.S. and taliban had good relations). hell if anything, the war has made it (if there was any oil worth getting) harder to get because the war has spawned even MORE tribal groups that are fighting amongst each other. it would have been easier to pay off the few that were there than the now multiple mujahiden and others.
Spellman5150 1 year ago
@Spellman5150 yo fukin tool real the cia documetns. the tlaiban refused to have americn troops in afhganitna when striking the deal. they were ok wiht teh deal up untill the point america sed theyw nted thier troops there to secure interests. taliban said no and the cia litelraly said well get our oil 'either with a carpte of bombs or a carpet of gold'.... they refused the peiplen on american terms,
veritbo 1 year ago
never the oil but more to do with selling weapons
uzpower 2 years ago
i agree afghanistan is for oil and gas lines, that is why the west is there. look at how blair said he would of gone into iraq if not for wmd? that says it all.
sexybritgent 2 years ago
It's not a tribal conflict, but a border dispute fueled by the ruling ethnic group of Pakistan, the Punjabis - who do not live in the border region.
They believe they must fuel this conflict in order to keep the territory of Pakistan intact. The Taliban is a threat to Afghanistan, but it is actually a tool of Pakistan.
Focus on the tribal aspects of Afghanistan will actually help to strengthen the country.
arianndarien 2 years ago
@Aptitude
Actually, the Taliban is a Pakistani paramilitary org created to suppress Pashtun and Balochi separatist movements and to keep Afghanistan too weak and unstable to assert renegotiation of the Durand Line. It's not a tribal conflict, but a border dispute fueled by the ruling ethnic group of Pakistan, the Punjabis - who do not live in the border region.
arianndarien 2 years ago
For a better understanding of Afghanistan and Pakistan, check out CONFLICT OF INTEREST- Patterns in Chaose, Parts 1, 2 and 3.
arianndarien 2 years ago
(3) Turkmenistan has only enough gas to supply 4% of Pakistan's needs, while Iran can supply 100% of Pakistan's needs; and
(4) Under TAP, Pakistan would have to pay transportation fees to Afghanistan, while under IPI, it will be collecting transportation fees from India, an obviously more favorable deal.
arianndarien 2 years ago
The TAP pipeline story is a red herring. Pakistan signed the deal with Bridas in 1995 in bad faith, because:
(1) Bhutto knew they would never allow for stability in Afghanistan for reasons connected with the Durand Line and the Punjabi domination of Pakistan;
(2) By 1995, Pakistan had already been in negotiations with Iran and India for the IPI pipeline since 1989, that deal has recently been signed;
arianndarien 2 years ago
real oil prices havent gone up , your money is becoming worthless. Take the hamburger out of your fat throat and try to see the correlation
dave997 2 years ago 2
Groovy. So when are my gas prices going down?
waiting. waiting. still waiting...
FeelingCalled 2 years ago
better have some fucking oil.
Omega3chimp 2 years ago
to think all of the poor innocent people and soilders that have died for the untouched reasources in afghanistan..... the fact is afghanistan as a nation can not be won through war.. proven fact the americans & english have tried to many times just a shame the public are soo brain washed by BULLSHIT!!! tut tut tut
nedvedm13 2 years ago
@nedvedm13 dude i dont feel sory for the sodleirs 2 reaosns.
1`. soldiers had teh choice they cud have researched it, and they shdnt have gone. they know better then to serve and follow roders blidnly. tha nazis taught us that
2. beucase of thier chocie to figh the governemtn can use em to get wat they want. THEY CHOOSE TO BE POLITICAL PAWNS. if tehy chose not to be pawns, wud USA be able to do this? nope. weep for teh civilians
veritbo 1 year ago
Three words Weed Opium Oil
tubeshok 2 years ago
why are we in Afghanistan... two words... NINE ELEVEN
tigersruhl84 2 years ago
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benabicha123 2 years ago
No, that was the con that fulled us into to going. Real reason:control of heroin and oil
MrKondee 2 years ago
nine eleven was a setup from the government as an EXCUSE to go to these countrys and invade, The start of the new world order, one government, one bank, it'll be hell
nintendocrew 2 years ago 2
We're in Afghanistan because of poppy fields.
EpicDude86 2 years ago 2
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Why do people think it is morally reprehensible for a countrys leaders to be concerned about its supply of oil?
Would they really prefer it if their leaders said - I am too morally pure to worry about oil - so the price of petrol is going to quadruple and we will probably run out next month
Our civilisation is dependent on oil - of course politicians give a high priority to its supply. That said it is cheaper to buy oil than invade a country - so its not all about the oil.
AlanTTT3 2 years ago
Why do people think it is so morally reprehensible for a countrys leaders to be concerned about its supply of oil?
Would they really prefer it if their leaders said - I am too morally pure to worry about oil - so the price of petrol is going to quadruple and we will probably run out next month
Our civilisation is dependent on oil - of course politicians give a high priority to its supply. That said it is cheaper to buy oil than invade a country - so its not all about the oil.
AlanTTT3 2 years ago
'Why do people think it is so morally reprehensible for a countrys leaders to be concerned about its supply of oil?'
It isn't worth paying blood for oil.
pclose11 2 years ago
@pclose11 well siad! its nto morally reprehensivle for a countrys leader tot hink a bout oil, its morally rephrensible to murder childeren to make the deal. yes ebucase we cant make the deal peacefully. right
veritbo 1 year ago
just a little comment if america was so scared about oil a more instable reagion would be mexico the real reason we whent in was due to the complex talban cells operating there which had the abilty to strike at europhe and america why we are still there is we have made it worse and the lawless areas have become a talban are once again and we fear if we leave now thease areas will regain the abilty to strike at america and europhe again
womba000 2 years ago
The reason is, because the US can easily take the Mexican oil at a later date and no one else is in position to interfere with that. However several countries can get to the middle east and central Asia easier than we can. Thus the philosophy goes that you get the oil that will be more disputed 1st then go after that which you pretty much control already.
Pavier68 2 years ago 2
as for the UK unfortunately the gov seems to always follow america against most people wishes sad that
polygamous1 2 years ago 2
BTW, after all the death and destruction, anyone who expects 99c gasoline is too dumb to live.
defundthewar 2 years ago
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trevfrank 2 years ago
I support China and Russia! Not USA/UK/Israel war criminals.
sacopenapa 3 years ago 2
after all its china Russia that invaded iraq killing over a million maybe the same will happen in agfanistan they run gitmo abu Graib so yes in that case they are the crinimals how some americans think the pot calling the kettle dirty yet again
polygamous1 2 years ago
And China & Russia is like angels then... You know what ppl do to survive?
Jockesse 2 years ago
@sacopenapa They are all war criminals, and if you can't see it, you're not better than the rest of us.
superdog797 1 year ago
@sacopenapa
>SUPPORT CHINA AND RUSSIA!
SO YOUR SOLUTION TO CORRUPTION IS TO SUPPORT THE WORST OF THE WORST. 10/10
ZEROEVILDARKCOOL 1 year ago
Be sure to check out some of the high paying oil industry jobs available at Oilcareer com
carlyt666 3 years ago
master25
china would dominate america.. have you seen their technology? its not even funny
if it came down though, i bet china would tell america to f off and get out of afghanistan
Skylineownage 3 years ago
lol.. retard where are you from
china is a cheap shit
ragman2008 3 years ago
obviously you dont know your stuff. they are the most advanced country.
Skylineownage 3 years ago
no no no
if you don't know, then dont educate me
ragman2008 3 years ago
Laugh all you want, US economy is going down fast. China is going up. So your own government is going to kick you out of your house because you can't afford and raise the price so no American can afford it and China's gonna buy it, live in it and laugh at your ignorant and arrogant @ss histerically.
MrGarysun 3 years ago 4
lol....
wake up to the things happening to this world
still in deep slumber?
ragman2008 3 years ago
its not just pipeline .....its 5 trillion cubic meter of gas reserves,uranium reserves ,gold reserves,oil and other precious metal reserves in addition to unexplored reserves.....cause these estimates were of soviet union and they never could explore more in afghanistan coz their never got a chance....soviets were willing to spendevery penny to remain there...and the same thing brought these anglo-europeans there...their greed gonna get them screwed....:)....
leotakesleo 3 years ago
HA! like we need protecting we need for troops here where we know that we are salf and pertected. not hundreds of miles away....dont get me rong i dont really give a crap about if war is good or bad but i just wish the government would just tell us the truth!
fleetyboi 3 years ago
I KNEW IT ALL ALONG!!!!! from the very start i just knew that we was in iraq and Afghanistan for something precious and not only did i think that the US was after land and wiping out a muslim community for oil!. its just another way to conker.the guvernment scare US people into thinking they are at were for all the right resions such as perteting us...
fleetyboi 3 years ago
fleetyboi, Someone posting a video was all it took to cement your beliefs????
discoveramericanow 3 years ago
i may have taken things abit too far :S
fleetyboi 3 years ago
CapnBooBoo (--- THAT is clear as a SUNNY DAY ... 30 trillion DOLLARS ... LOOK AT USA bases around the world ... MOST of them 90% of them are in ARABIAN peninsulla .. OIL KOSOVO BASE is build to guard oil pipeline ...
aviomaster 3 years ago
--- WITH todays price of a BARREL of OIL 134$ and IRAQI reserves under ground = to 30 trillion DOLLARS ... IS that worth FIGHTING FOR .
aviomaster 3 years ago
Iran and Venezuela specifically called off selling oil to the US., these are sanctions againts the United States, ofcourse the US and ISrael will call IRan a terrorists state, its why oil is so expensive, the Iraqi oil now belongs to criminals who want it for the future, to stay rich and have power.
CapnBooBoo 3 years ago
@aviomaster at teh cost of fucking mruderin chuildren? NO
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JUDYTHANA 3 years ago
well US troops are hunted like dogs in iraq, afghanistan,it wont work in the long term.
an1792 3 years ago 2
I don't believe Neocons to be so patriotic to wage war for sake of ordinary American to get cheep oil.
Neo-Zion rascals are power hungry,they would do any thing to keep control on state power.
People in ME generally blame Jew,Don't get it wrong as Jews suffer hardships as well.
good example to compare is Murdoch vs Conrad Black, one is in heaven other is in cell.
Fixhist 3 years ago
most of the world hates us now because of Bush`s lies about the wars we started,We should just be like the rest of this world and buy our oil instead of killing innocents for it.Would you put one drop of gas in your car if you knew a child got killed in the process of bringing that gas to our country????
setanta333 3 years ago 4
@setanta333 very well said. :)
veritbo 1 year ago
All Asian countries should unite to fight America.
LionHearrt 3 years ago 8
surrrre, but you'd get slaughtered....
mike123212 3 years ago
russa and china alone would crush usa excellent idea od asia figthing against fucking americans
master25 3 years ago
@LionHearrt And Lose? What would be the point?
asleeperj 1 year ago
@LionHearrt THE US GLOBAL AGENDA IS ONLY ABOUT OIL, PRIOR TO 9/11, WITH CONTRACTS SIGNED, A FALSE FLAG ATTACK WAS NEEDED TO FORCE THE TALIBANS HAND INTO A BROKEN DEAL, WHICH WOULD ALLOW ACCESS TO TAP INTO OIL SUPPLIES FROM THE CASPIAN, NW AFGHANISTAN REGION. ITS ONLY ABOUT OIL,THEN THEIRS IRAQ. YOU NEED TO RESEARCH AND WAKE UP, DONT LET THE POWERS AND CONTROL LIE TO YOU.
2012bringiton 1 year ago
@2012bringiton No, the global monetary giants are all about funding such wars of aggression. It matters not about oil, it's just convenient right now, because of the demand.
asleeperj 1 year ago
Yeah but i am sure green tea helps dissolve them. I drink about 15 cups a day and no problems.
JoeTube27 4 years ago
youd have then conclude that the u.s. is not a democracy or fighting for democracy. youre also postulating that increased oil prices here, or economic change in general, validates the violence it takes to maintain this economy. a couple of thousand people deciding the fate of millions.
pretty fascist, mom.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago 2
Yes the U.S. has plenty of its own oil. Also America practices COMMUNISM. Google American Communism and read what we are doing. We are going Against the Constitutions intent.
JoeTube27 4 years ago
our oil production peaked in the 1970's. we couldnt support our self for very long, under a year, i think?
read marx, then tell me we have a communist state.
are you talking about a progressive income tax making us communist, or some such nonsense?
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago
REad MARX. WE practice COMMUNISM. Think about it. People could afford health care and mortgage payments if they had no income tax. Or only tax the upper upper Class. If someone makes 52,000 a yr let them keep it and so on. But if you make like 1 million then tax them at like 5%. Your income tax goes to pay the interest on the money the FED prints. When it's the up to the congress to create the money, not some 2nd party. INterest FREE
JoeTube27 4 years ago
i agree that monetary policy is a scam, but if i paid no income taxwhich i dont) i still dont have enough money for healthcare. thats all.
4ourthofjuly 4 years ago 2
explain. if so you r such a small small %