Relic Release a statement that it was a combined ending
The IG and Eldar Won, with Ghorgutz making off with Crull's head.
The IG got their titan back, the eldar and IG vanquished the Necrons, and Ghorgutz got himself a shiny new head for his pointy stick. EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
This is the canon ending of that mission. To all people who say it was the Eldar, first of all, a piece of wargear in Retribution confirms it, and second of all, you never actually SEE Taldeer die. It's very possible that she escaped the attack and left.
I'm not arguing that the Eldar didn't deserve that; arrogant buggers that they are. But the Farseer did say something hauntingly true in the greater picture - without the Eldar, the Imperium might well face its doom. Both races need each other, even if they pretend not to
In the Dawn of War novels, Taldeer appears aboard the Imperial Navy's flagship, alive after the Necrons are defeated. She asks for Gabriel Angelos, who negotiates a truce with the Eldar. As a result, he later travels to Arcadia and takes a weapon that they claim can destroy the Necrons permanently. The Eldar say thanks, and leave.
Meanwhile, Gen. Sturnn and his men are commended and are busy cleaning up the remnants of the Orks - and are busy being badass and readying for the next campaign.
@NicholasGeschke In the novels yes, however in the games it doesnt go like that Orks were victorious in WA which is later proven in DC where space marines rise as victor which leads to a disaster of Imperium in SS where none of the 3 imperial factions stood victorious.
I just love how Taldeer thinks that only the Eldar can defeat the Necrons. HA! Apparently she's never been on the receiving end of a Baneblade or a Basilisk firestorm.
Guys, in WH40K there's no such extremes as good or evil. Well, Chaos and Dark Eldar are extremely evil that's true, but the Imperium is more like a wrongly developed society, since they worship the Emperor as a god (which was the reason of why the Emperor disliked the Word Bearers). The Imperium hate xenos because most of them (mostly the eldar) turned against them. Eldar are not really evil, they are arrogant and clinging to their past where they were the coolest guys. Necrons are just serve.
@xxlCortez Emperor is really almost godlike, his psychic powers help A LOT to hold chaos gods in their dimension. If he would be reborn, his psychic powers would be unmatched in the universe. They have strong anti heretic policy becouse they don't want another "horus heresy" to happen and i just disagree about their hatred for all aliens. They could be much stronger if they united than to be at war with everyone.
@ultraboy222 Well, if you look better, you'll see that xenos are pretty untrustworthy and during a war it's very hard to trust a race that much. The only civilized races they can negotiate with are the eldar and tau. Eldar are despite everyone I think even more than the Imperium, but they don't have any moral or honor, so they are willing to ally with them if their interests requires it (my own opinion that they should extinct when the universe don't need them anymore).
@xxlCortez Tau would be a better choice since they respect life but their Greater Good is also against the Imperium (since it's an unification UNDER the Tau). And they spread it slyly, so this alliance could threaten with rebellion. What I really don't appreciate is fighting among the factions of the Imperium like they did on Kronus and Kaurava. Now that's really don't make any sense.
@xxlCortez Tt does if you read the tau codex the reason why the black templars attacked them was because the tau were insighting revoults on imperium controled worlds. They use diplomacy as a weapon and there for cant be trusted. and they have a past that would make korn proud
@xxlCortez :) yeah but and in the love of tinkering with chaos artifacts i dont know sounds like a mixed blessing could end up with another dark eldar or necron race :O dumdumdum.............................................
In DOW 2, the Eldar try and sacrafice an entire populated Imperial System to save a single craftworld from the Tyranids instead of trying to work together with us to kill it. Through it all we kill BOTH them AND most of the Hivefleet. Fuck the Eldar and their sparkly weapons.
No. No, you're missing the fucking point. They're all evil. In Warhammer, you get to choose between two sides. The assholes who will just kill or enslave you, and the assholes who will warp your soul and feed you to their Gods. There is no good side or bad side; they are all bad, and you are bad for suggesting there's a tangible difference. Shut the fuck up.
@TashMcPyro There is good and evil in wh40k universe. Chaos is evil and there is nothing else to say here(Killing for joy and other bad things for no reason). Most of the other races are good in their way since most of them have a reason to keep fighting(exept necrons and orks). Of course the no xeno policy is kinda stupid in the imperium and eldars thinking that everyone is a mindless savage is bad too.
@ultraboy222 the further you are from Imperial eyes the more likely you are to use Xeno's, some Guard Commander's used Blood Axe Orks as mercenaries, some commander's trade with Tau.
@GeneralSturnn The only wrong thing i see about the imperium is that they hate all alien life other than human. Space Marines even hate ogryns and other "mutants" like them "If my Marines are ordered to serve alongside these tainted half-animals, they shall do so. But upon their return they shall be quarantined and purified by every means in our Apothecarion." Carab Culn lol.
@ultraboy222 Their treat toward mutants is a bit narrow minded thinking, but since mutation is one of the main symbol of the warp and chaos, I can understand their prejudice. When I played the first DOW game and I knew nothing about the Warhammer Universe I considered the Imperium as an Empire which fallen back to the Dark Ages. But when I saw Chaos I realized that they perhaps are that extremes with reason.
@ultraboy222 Well, when just about EVERY Aliens wants nothing more than the Imperium's destruction(Orks don't care, Nids are just hungry, so they don't count) Tau WANT ALL Humans to join them and everyone to join them, Eldar would gladly sacrifice a billion Humans, and the Tau attack Imperial worlds antagonizing them into attacking the Tau.
@GeneralSturnn That is true but Imperium doesn't want any kind of peace with them. Just total destruction of xeno life. They could make a pact with the tau easy but eldar are just arrogant and they wouldnt try to join "savages". Others don't count as you said(tyranids,orcs,necrons).
@ultraboy222 Oh, the Imperium as tried being friends with Tau before(like "you odn't shoot me I don't shoot you go it?" kind of friendship, but the Tau don't want that, the reason the Damocles Gulf Crusade was called was because the Tau kept taking Imperial worlds.
How do you get this cinematic? Is there something special I have to do? I'm just familiar with the one that the eldars succeed in teleporting back behind the phsker wall.
@PaladinsOfKrieg was playing dawn of war 2 retribution. the shield of sturnn dropped for me on imperial guard mode. states he led them to retrieve the titan so it is canon. apparently taldeer must of escaped off screen and survived in the dark crusade only to get killed by the blood ravens. alexanders mission to hunt her down would be her objective in winter assault that has you wipe out some guard to relocate their
Slaanesh was created by the Eldar's own depravity. They brought their doom upon themselves long ago. I don't see why anyone should declare them "Innocent" considering that.
I'm sure Sturnn thought the loss of the xeno Eldar was not a loss at all, but it seems that he shows some degree of respect for the doomed, Xeno or not.
Sturn gives such fantastic speeches which fits really well with the camera shots and animations ran. This I feel was one of the most cinematic dawn of wars, even compared to the new ones. However it is also one of the shortest..but a decent trade off I feel for such awe inspiring speeches, voice acting and general set up.
Oh, and big has some fucking great taste in music!
At least Sturnn gives them a fitting send off. If the Eldar get through the gate first, fucking Taldeer doesnt even acknowledge the sacrifice of the Imperial Guard, she just monologs about the Eldar's place in the Galaxy and leaves them to rot, never even addressing us once.
@Dynaphus Both sides have their reasons for using deception and fighting, the Eldar are trying their best to not be wiped out by their enemies and save their souls from Slaanesh's grip, while the Imperials fight for the Emperor and to save the Titan so xenos and other heretic scum cannot use it to their own advantage. It's war and in war good people die on both sides of the conflict. Oceans are filled with blood in the name of one belief or another.
@Dynaphus I think it not to be so black and white. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it true that a vast majority of humans do not even make a psychic presence strong enough for the demons of the warp to notice after death? The Eldar on the other hand are different. I'd kill humans to escape eternal torment, especially if they didn't face the same fate.
@Colluctor Eldar had their chance in unitying all planets under them, but they have failed.... We shall not follow the same footsteps... (speech from someone in a warhammer book ive once read)
@Dynaphus Very true. Just take a look st what happens if the Eldar reach the gate first. They don't even acknowledge the Imperial Guard as Orks and Chaos troops swarm them. Oh, and the killing billions of humans to save one Eldar? They'll do that to save one Eldar that'll be born 3,000 years in the future. Yeah. Hypocritical scum.
I highly fucking doubt that this bitch farseer by technical standards did this to Sturnm. After all, she had to have survived to be in Dark Crusade, meaning that the Imperial Guard failed here, which is complete bullshit.
@ntat8 Nah, according to one of the books (name escapes me) when Angelos arrives there he finds the IG in control and the farseer in their custody, somehow she survived, but she escapes and the story goes on.
Hah. I respect the General a lot. He shows some regret for the eldar's situation, and that's a lot more than they deserve. Eh I wish eldar would just die out like they are supposed to. Every bit of lore that involves them bores me to sleep with their angry emo attitude and their little sob stories that are supposed to bring sympathy when in reality they brought in on themselves. So to correct the General, "Die well, die unwell, just fucking die, all of ya.".
someone show me evidence where the imperium destroyed a planet unreasonably that wasn't either heavily argued upon after words or was caused by an outside force they always have a good reason people who hate the imperium just don't read deep enough into their reasoning, also u know who trusted the orks and eldar the squats and guess what they got pretty much completely destroyed by the orks and the eldar ignored their pleas for help
I love Imperial gaurds armed with little more then a rifle and the moral they can muster against impossible odds they hold the line! FOR THE IMPERIUM!!
@hunterfly70 ehm mate, have you played mssion 4 of winter assault order side? the eldar objectives are to kill humans and destroy a human base so they can relocate their, making it easier for them to complete their objectives and use humans as a shield against orcks/chaos. taldeer goes so far as to tell her troops to cleanse the human vermin presence. eldar are complete backstabbers
the imperial guard side does not have the humans attack the eldar at all in the objectives. however
@Tommonius Don't forget that the Eldar probably could have gone around the Imperial base, but it wouldn't have been as convenient. The Guard were just trying to get to the gate.
@Tommonius Well, to be fair, the Eldar are on the brink of extinction, not that I support them, or condone what they did, but still, in times like theirs, I wouldn't wonder why the Eldar did what they did.
@Replican815 true maybe, but in all the games the imperials inflict heavy fatalities on the eldar, you would think they would learn their damn lesson. i mean they got farseers that can predict the future but because they think to much of their own power, make mistakes and get owned hard.
ah well they will all be dead (as soon as people stop collecting their models :P )
@Tommonius Ha ha, so true. They are too overconfident, because they've been around since ancient times, not before the Necrons though, and have the second most advanced tech in the galaxy... perhaps the Tau are almost on par with them, though.
@igilistr ehm sorry but your wrong there. the 40k universe is not a game for closet racists/nazis.
it is about a universe consumed by mistrust and war, the imperim does shady things but they have a tendency to hold their hands up and say yea using exterminatus on this planet sucks but its better the taint does not spread to yet another planet, where as the so called "good" race the tau began expanding its borders similar to nazi germany and do their best to justify their wars on the greater good
@Tommonius Did i say domethunk like this, man? Creators of WH40k realy uses this states and events as inspiration for Imperium.
And I'M NOT FAN OF IMPERIUM. How many times must i say this? They was only inspiration for my ME-fanfic (i was workin on some kind of ME:mirror-universe).
@Rykanable Excpet not at all. If you want 40k Nazis look at the Imperium. They destroy entire planets simply because they THINK that it might be tainted. They execute anyone who questions their logic stating that it's heresy. The Imperium is the true Nazi of the Warhammer world.
@Arkaeya lol the eldar never did this look up graz rakall thrukka or sumtin but long story short they HELPED an ork become powerful so he would fight the imperium and the greatest farseer ever killed millions of humans to save ten-thousand eldar
@cunroth This is true, but they're also on the edge of extinction. And it wasn't that they wanted him to attack the Imperium. It was that they tipped the balance of the ork clans in the favor of one who had no interest in attacking the Eldar. Not to mention the Imperium is pretty much nothing but a bunch of xeno-phobic assholes. The eldar may have their moments, but they still don't slaughter bollions of innocents just because they think the planet is tainted.
@Arkaeya No? Play DOW2 and say that again. I'm not gonna deny that the Imperium are xenophobes or assholes, in fact, that's mostly part of their charm. What's the eldar's charm? Dying? Oh please. But whatever, you like the emo space elves, good for you, but don't try to make them into some shining monument of virtue, they are severely fucked up, and the situation they are in is their very own fault. And as much as you claim you do, you don't know shit about WH40k, so shut the hell up.
@hellmagefire Except not at all. You're the one who doesn't know shit about WH40k. Yes the Eldar's situation is their own fault but unlike the Imperium they're actually trying to deal with the god they created. I never said that they were a shining monument but they are far more humane than the Imperium. Yes, they do throw away thousands of human lives but they do it for a greater cause. And the Imperium is far more fucked up than the eldar. They kill innocents because of sheer paranoia .
@Arkaeya. Even if you didn't know shit about WH you'd still for an opinion by at least playing their games, I'm not gonna say reading their fluff books, Eldar are the biggest idiots in the goddamn world. Perhaps the imperium might be cruel, but they aren't messed up, manipulative scumbags like the eldar, who treat humans like pests but when it gets tough they run to them and ask nonchalantly for help after attacking them ,expecting sympathy because, aww, they are dying. Emo race for emo people.
@Arkaeya And if you did know shit about WH40k you'd know that heresy or corruption lead to big fucking disasters, kind of like the birth of a chaos god, or at least a demon, if you can take the hint, that's why there are so feared and dealt with swiftly. And I'm not trying to make excuses for them, in fact I like them because they are what they are, unlike you who are sobbing here about the poor eldar going extinct and how it's ok to attempt genocide because that somehow gives them the right.
@hellmagefire You really need to work on your social issues. Not did I insult you, yet you call me emo and say I don't know shit about what I'm talking about. If anything it's you who doesn't know what you're talking about. Whenever someone begins to lose an argument they always revert to insulting the other person, which you already done several times. And the Imperium isn't messed up? During the "Great Crusade" they slaughtered entire planets of humans simply because of difference in opinions.
@Arkaeya That's not an insult. It's simply an observation. Like calling the pig, a pig. So spare me the hurt feelings routine. And given that the great crusade strengthened the human species, the worlds that fell would have taken it in the face eventually, if not from the orks then certainly from your little emo space elves. So cut the crap, eldar are what's left of a civilization whose decadence created an universal evil. So whatever crap they are in, cannot be justified by any means.
@hellmagefire Except that's not an observation. Just because I like the Eldar doesn't mean I'm emo. And yeah the Great Crusade "strengthened" the human race. Strengthened it so much that it caused half of the Emperors warriors to turn to chaos. So if that's your idea of strengthening then yes, it did. And yes they can be justified by their actions. The Horus Heresy series talks of several points where the eldar tried to warn the Imperium of Horus' betrayal, yet they were ignored.
@Arkaeya Well you are the one sobbing for their unfortunate times. But anyway, the Great Crusade basically unified the imperium, there were heretics then just as there are in the current timeline and space marines still turn to chaos, corrupted, that's why the imperium is so paranoid, obviously with good reason. And if the Eldar wouldn't be such backstabbing, manipulative sods, the imperium might have even listened to them about Horus.
@hellmagefire Again you fail to understand basic reason. Just because I'm arguing a different point of view doesn't mean that I'm sobbing. And the Imperium was unified before the Great Crusade. All the Great Crusade was is the conquering of planets and slaughtering of entire civilizations simply because they wouldn't abandon their faith and join the emperor. And no marine had ever turned traitor before the Imperium got greedy and felt the need to conquer the galaxy.
@firelord699 Yes, but the Great Crusade wasn't meant to find them. Finding them was just a bonus. The Great Crusade was meant to "bring the light of the emperor to every corner of the galaxy."
@Arkaeya the imperium is a lie and the high lords of terra have ordered the iqustion to kill the only thing that can bring the emporer back the sensi BUT might not need them if the star child fully developes so i say all the space mariens kill the lords of terra and take control of the imperium so that the truth can be seen lol i wish this would happen cuase if it did it would be epic to know that they had the same idea for story as me
If anyone is going to kill the lords of terra it will probably be the custodians. All they have to do is call the lords a direct threat to the emperor and off their heads go. In theory with the 40k lore though, the worship of the emperor would give him great strength in the warp enhancing his already great psychic abilities. No direct evidence but trillions of humans, the things that made 3 of 4 chaos gods, cheering for the emperor must have some effect.
@Arkaeya Damnit, must have been a cover up! Wouldn't want to be telling the public and even enemies that they were planning to depend on the primarches.
@Arkaeya Comparing the Imperium to the Nazis is the most common stupidity said about it. Don't compare ruining billions of lives because of a bunch of Chaos Worshippers (which is a REAL and DIRE threat to mankind) with the dellusions of a madman who just wanted to exterminate an ethnic group because he felt like it.
@Eobryne Again though you fail to see the fact that the eldar are on the edge of exinction. They're the last of their kind. Meanwhile, humanity inhabits thousands upon thousands of planets, with billions on each planet. Not to mention that the eldar actually do more in combating the forces of chaos than the Imperium does. The Imperium only fights chaos when it has to, whereas the eldar have willing gone to fight the forces of chaos and craftworld Ulthwe is stationed at the eye of terror.
@Arkaeya I repeat so you can understand better: The Imperium are not nazis. They don't kill people by exterminatus or for heresy just for a dellusion of a madman leader. The threat is REAL. Just ONE person may, by mistake for reading the wrong book, saying the wrong words, or simply being in the wrong place, doom an entire sector by summoning daemons or be possessed. Innocent die so that humanity may live. Eldar are just cruel, cold hearted extremists,The Fall speaks enough about them.And clear.
@Eobryne And you need to actually read the entire conversation before you jump in and start assuming you know what you're talking about. The conversation was about how the Imperium were the 40k race that was the closest to being nazis. And the Eldar aren't just cruel. They're on the brink of destruction and trying to survive. Since you know nothing about the Imperium I'd suggest reading up on their history. They would execute people simply for believing that there may be an afterlife out there.
@igilistr hmm ancient rome the one bastion of philosophy and science in the ancient world, hmm the spanish inquisition were the ones who went crazy and killed people, and hey communism that's cool better than shitty capitalism so yeah pretty cool
@unit529 Imperial Guard and Space Marines belong to the same race:Humans.Therefore,they are friendly to each other untill,say....the commanders have conflicting orders from the high command or something like that.
eldar are assholes sturnn wanted to save them but he didnt want to risk the life of his men taldeer leaves without hesitation see the difference asshole warhero asshole warhero
haha i really hope this is canon, a lot of people say eldar canon ending cause she shows up in another expansion but still no proof, it could be a hybrid ending snd sturnn lives.
I note she isnt acting high and mighty now when during their mission the eldar break the damn treaty with the imperials and attack 1 of their bases, and Sturnn if he could save them without loosing his men probarbly would, but in eldar ending she makes a speech on how great she is and ignores imperials dieing
@ValkyrieCaine i read the novel, canon imperial guard win and have the titan, the blood ravens are passing by the system and visit the planet, the farseer escaped death offscreen and is hunted by the imperium for attacking them in her side of mission 4
@Rykanable well the novel is debatable but it is not stated wither way, its the 1 dawn of war without clear ending. taldeer did not have to win in order to escape alive, if she had been locked out of the titan shield she could of escaped off screen as she was not shown killed. dark crusade does not proove guard win winter assault though, lukas alexander has orders to hunt her down for her betrayel in WA but thats about it
To those who thinks Sturn shows regret, very small regret, for allowing Taldeer to die, let me ask this. Would Sturn actually save the xenos if there was a way to keep all of his men alive and not compromise his mission?
La musica aggiunta di sottonfondo è bellissima...aggiunge un forte impatto emotivo di sacrificio ed onore...da dov'è stata presa ? Non mi sembra che sia quella di base di WA....
@canpitt Well, the Necrons can still defeat the IG even with an Imperator Titan, for if they would releas there true power the Tomb Stalker, then 1 Imperator Titan will not do.
@Kemonokami dude :| sturrn is badass and better then the eldar bcuz if the eldar win they boast about it and when the guard wins sturrn shows respect to them and wishes them good luck...thats why sturrn is BADASS!!!!
@Kemonokami He Deserve the biggest glory the Emperor could give him.
When Taldeer leaves him alone, she is very selfles. Sturnn showed respect even to xenos. He made good point, live of his soldiers are far more important than Eldar.
If you think about it IG had a better chance of fighting of the necrons then eldar because (i know that you can recharge the stone) but howmany times could they use the stone. they used it once and it was useless while ig fired away with the titan guns
@Tomahaukka Showing they aren't wise, just stuck-ups. Why should the IG trust them, when they have prooven to be trustunworthy, and when the IG can't trust them?
@indendunklenschatten the eldar are wise theres nothing you could do to stop that, and there only stuck up becuase they know so much, there minds are constantly at danger, no wonder there gunna be sly. huumans are pretty much worthless.
Agreed. The Eldar need to understand that we humans don't take too kindly to being doublecrossed. If they want the Imperium to trust and help them, they need to earn our trust and do things for us even if it threatens their short term interests.......
The Tau, Eldar and humans are out for the same goal, so they should finally stop bitching around, trust each other and join forces. They could defeat the evil ones in no time.
I know that, it would be handy for all three races if they teamed up. I'm merely saying that the Eldar need to stop backstabbing others so much. That's why the Imperium doesn't trust them and backstabs them in return because they expect the Eldar to do it to them given how they've treated humans in the past.
@indendunklenschatten yeah, but the humans (imperium) doesnt trust the eldar bcuz the eldar trick the huamsn everytime and i dont know how the imperium thinks about the TAU...maybe if they leave eachothers religion alone the tau and humans would be one badass army
@indendunklenschatten i think the tau would like to comprimises but i dont know if the inquistion wants peace, bcuz the tau r heretics and whatsoever..BUT F*CK YEAH THEY WOULD BE UNSTOPABLE !!!!
Heretics... I know, that's what the INQUISITION keeps on saying. The Emperorer never said anything like that. Why should he. So, as for my opinion, I think that the Inquisition is just like the Christian church was back then: an institution just looking out for their own benefit, and to achieve that goal, the lie, lie, lie, lie, and fucking lie. So fuck the Inquisition, join the Tau and defeat the evil.
Relic Release a statement that it was a combined ending
The IG and Eldar Won, with Ghorgutz making off with Crull's head.
The IG got their titan back, the eldar and IG vanquished the Necrons, and Ghorgutz got himself a shiny new head for his pointy stick. EVERYBODY'S HAPPY.
Except crull, but nobody cares about crull.
Rilurio 2 days ago
@Rilurio No, everybody loves Crull, but only so far as he's in the pantheon of loud, incompetent DoW chaos lords
Bale: SIINDRIIIIIIII
Crull: YAY FOR THE BLOOD GOD
Carron: Metul Bawkses
Eliphas: *facepalm*
EmpperorIng 19 hours ago
This is the canon ending of that mission. To all people who say it was the Eldar, first of all, a piece of wargear in Retribution confirms it, and second of all, you never actually SEE Taldeer die. It's very possible that she escaped the attack and left.
NoiseMarines 3 days ago
Was the Tallarn and Biel-tan eldar alliance the only one where they both didn't stab each other in the back?
Tarik360 4 days ago
I'm not arguing that the Eldar didn't deserve that; arrogant buggers that they are. But the Farseer did say something hauntingly true in the greater picture - without the Eldar, the Imperium might well face its doom. Both races need each other, even if they pretend not to
insideous57 2 weeks ago
In the Dawn of War novels, Taldeer appears aboard the Imperial Navy's flagship, alive after the Necrons are defeated. She asks for Gabriel Angelos, who negotiates a truce with the Eldar. As a result, he later travels to Arcadia and takes a weapon that they claim can destroy the Necrons permanently. The Eldar say thanks, and leave.
Meanwhile, Gen. Sturnn and his men are commended and are busy cleaning up the remnants of the Orks - and are busy being badass and readying for the next campaign.
NicholasGeschke 1 month ago
@NicholasGeschke In the novels yes, however in the games it doesnt go like that Orks were victorious in WA which is later proven in DC where space marines rise as victor which leads to a disaster of Imperium in SS where none of the 3 imperial factions stood victorious.
XmjfanforeverX 2 weeks ago
@XmjfanforeverX That's not true. If the Orks won in Winter Assault, then Taldeer would have been dead.
NoiseMarines 3 days ago
I just love how Taldeer thinks that only the Eldar can defeat the Necrons. HA! Apparently she's never been on the receiving end of a Baneblade or a Basilisk firestorm.
lordj15987 1 month ago
@lordj15987 Hahahah Amen Brother! For the Imperium!!
themathewman1 1 month ago
Why is the music sad? I was very happy to see the Eldar get trapped and sliced to ribbons when I got to this part of the game.
PaladinofCadia 1 month ago 4
Guys, in WH40K there's no such extremes as good or evil. Well, Chaos and Dark Eldar are extremely evil that's true, but the Imperium is more like a wrongly developed society, since they worship the Emperor as a god (which was the reason of why the Emperor disliked the Word Bearers). The Imperium hate xenos because most of them (mostly the eldar) turned against them. Eldar are not really evil, they are arrogant and clinging to their past where they were the coolest guys. Necrons are just serve.
xxlCortez 2 months ago
@xxlCortez Emperor is really almost godlike, his psychic powers help A LOT to hold chaos gods in their dimension. If he would be reborn, his psychic powers would be unmatched in the universe. They have strong anti heretic policy becouse they don't want another "horus heresy" to happen and i just disagree about their hatred for all aliens. They could be much stronger if they united than to be at war with everyone.
ultraboy222 2 months ago
@ultraboy222 Well, if you look better, you'll see that xenos are pretty untrustworthy and during a war it's very hard to trust a race that much. The only civilized races they can negotiate with are the eldar and tau. Eldar are despite everyone I think even more than the Imperium, but they don't have any moral or honor, so they are willing to ally with them if their interests requires it (my own opinion that they should extinct when the universe don't need them anymore).
xxlCortez 2 months ago
@xxlCortez Tau would be a better choice since they respect life but their Greater Good is also against the Imperium (since it's an unification UNDER the Tau). And they spread it slyly, so this alliance could threaten with rebellion. What I really don't appreciate is fighting among the factions of the Imperium like they did on Kronus and Kaurava. Now that's really don't make any sense.
xxlCortez 2 months ago
@xxlCortez Tt does if you read the tau codex the reason why the black templars attacked them was because the tau were insighting revoults on imperium controled worlds. They use diplomacy as a weapon and there for cant be trusted. and they have a past that would make korn proud
dagonofthedepths 2 months ago
@dagonofthedepths Humans had a past like that before the Emperor and they are older race than the Tau. Don't forget that:D
xxlCortez 2 months ago
@xxlCortez :) yeah but and in the love of tinkering with chaos artifacts i dont know sounds like a mixed blessing could end up with another dark eldar or necron race :O dumdumdum.............................................
dagonofthedepths 2 months ago
In DOW 2, the Eldar try and sacrafice an entire populated Imperial System to save a single craftworld from the Tyranids instead of trying to work together with us to kill it. Through it all we kill BOTH them AND most of the Hivefleet. Fuck the Eldar and their sparkly weapons.
gstofkin 2 months ago
The 4 best tricksters in WH40k:
1) Any Eldar Farseer. Really, just pick one. Any one.
2) Tzeentch.
3) SSSSSIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNDDDDDRRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIII!!
4) CCCCCCCCRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEDDDDDDDDDDD!!
IAmTheStig320 2 months ago
@IAmTheStig320 Number one should be Eldrad.
Wildcat425B 2 months ago
@Wildcat425B He sorta did if you didn't notice.
GeneralSturnn 2 months ago
"Without us you face your doom!"
"Eldar, the Cadian 412th have faced doom before, we bested it then and we will best it today, die well"
Shows you Imperials have more confidence in themselves than the Eldar who think the only reason they win is because it's fate instead of luck.
GeneralSturnn 2 months ago
"Wah wah wah, the Imperium is evil."
"No, the Eldar are evil."
No. No, you're missing the fucking point. They're all evil. In Warhammer, you get to choose between two sides. The assholes who will just kill or enslave you, and the assholes who will warp your soul and feed you to their Gods. There is no good side or bad side; they are all bad, and you are bad for suggesting there's a tangible difference. Shut the fuck up.
TashMcPyro 2 months ago
@TashMcPyro There is good and evil in wh40k universe. Chaos is evil and there is nothing else to say here(Killing for joy and other bad things for no reason). Most of the other races are good in their way since most of them have a reason to keep fighting(exept necrons and orks). Of course the no xeno policy is kinda stupid in the imperium and eldars thinking that everyone is a mindless savage is bad too.
ultraboy222 2 months ago
@ultraboy222 the further you are from Imperial eyes the more likely you are to use Xeno's, some Guard Commander's used Blood Axe Orks as mercenaries, some commander's trade with Tau.
GeneralSturnn 2 months ago
@GeneralSturnn The only wrong thing i see about the imperium is that they hate all alien life other than human. Space Marines even hate ogryns and other "mutants" like them "If my Marines are ordered to serve alongside these tainted half-animals, they shall do so. But upon their return they shall be quarantined and purified by every means in our Apothecarion." Carab Culn lol.
ultraboy222 2 months ago
@ultraboy222 Their treat toward mutants is a bit narrow minded thinking, but since mutation is one of the main symbol of the warp and chaos, I can understand their prejudice. When I played the first DOW game and I knew nothing about the Warhammer Universe I considered the Imperium as an Empire which fallen back to the Dark Ages. But when I saw Chaos I realized that they perhaps are that extremes with reason.
xxlCortez 2 months ago
@ultraboy222 Well, when just about EVERY Aliens wants nothing more than the Imperium's destruction(Orks don't care, Nids are just hungry, so they don't count) Tau WANT ALL Humans to join them and everyone to join them, Eldar would gladly sacrifice a billion Humans, and the Tau attack Imperial worlds antagonizing them into attacking the Tau.
GeneralSturnn 2 months ago
@GeneralSturnn That is true but Imperium doesn't want any kind of peace with them. Just total destruction of xeno life. They could make a pact with the tau easy but eldar are just arrogant and they wouldnt try to join "savages". Others don't count as you said(tyranids,orcs,necrons).
ultraboy222 1 month ago
@ultraboy222 Oh, the Imperium as tried being friends with Tau before(like "you odn't shoot me I don't shoot you go it?" kind of friendship, but the Tau don't want that, the reason the Damocles Gulf Crusade was called was because the Tau kept taking Imperial worlds.
GeneralSturnn 1 month ago
If you think Sturnn is bad for doing this, the Eldar do the exact same thing, and don't even consider helping the humans.
Colddirector 2 months ago
How do you get this cinematic? Is there something special I have to do? I'm just familiar with the one that the eldars succeed in teleporting back behind the phsker wall.
Heyoguy135 2 months ago
@PaladinsOfKrieg was playing dawn of war 2 retribution. the shield of sturnn dropped for me on imperial guard mode. states he led them to retrieve the titan so it is canon. apparently taldeer must of escaped off screen and survived in the dark crusade only to get killed by the blood ravens. alexanders mission to hunt her down would be her objective in winter assault that has you wipe out some guard to relocate their
Tommonius 3 months ago
@Tommonius Yes, IG win in winter assault. Taldeer is incapacitated but is later recovered by I think the Biel-Tan craftworld.
mcz1945 2 months ago
It really says a lot when this is the least offensive betrayal out of the four factions.
Qwepir 4 months ago
1:00
That Karskin dosent seem any diffrent after being banged by a machine
Thenoobiestmaniacs 4 months ago
Slaanesh was created by the Eldar's own depravity. They brought their doom upon themselves long ago. I don't see why anyone should declare them "Innocent" considering that.
Dynaphus 4 months ago
I'm sure Sturnn thought the loss of the xeno Eldar was not a loss at all, but it seems that he shows some degree of respect for the doomed, Xeno or not.
50033836 6 months ago
General sturn is one badass
Zero19941000 6 months ago
That lone guardman standing at the gate looked at the eldar and thought
"NoooooOOo! Dont kill the sexy ones!"
TheHazmate 7 months ago
@TheHazmate Heretic!!!
Heranara 4 months ago
@Heranara I shall report to my local commissar at once!
Problem is he is constantly rubbing the captives ears...
TheHazmate 4 months ago
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@TheHazmate Heretic!!!
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TheHazmate 7 months ago
Sturn gives such fantastic speeches which fits really well with the camera shots and animations ran. This I feel was one of the most cinematic dawn of wars, even compared to the new ones. However it is also one of the shortest..but a decent trade off I feel for such awe inspiring speeches, voice acting and general set up.
Oh, and big has some fucking great taste in music!
Sulvuss 7 months ago 4
At least Sturnn gives them a fitting send off. If the Eldar get through the gate first, fucking Taldeer doesnt even acknowledge the sacrifice of the Imperial Guard, she just monologs about the Eldar's place in the Galaxy and leaves them to rot, never even addressing us once.
7399Fya 7 months ago 35
@7399Fya
Although they dont actually die in that version.
VlogsWLawson 3 weeks ago
@7399Fya i was just about to say the same when i read ur comment, anyway, thats the very truth
RedeemerNDestroyer 1 day ago
You know, it's curious. A few people here cry out that the Imperium is Corrupt, and bastards for leaving the Eldar to die?
Yet to the Eldar, ALL Humanity, including the moaners, are nothing more then scum. They would still consider us expendable.
I for one am glad the Guard left the Eldar to die.
The Eldar do the same MUCH more often, causing the deaths of billions of humans to save one of their own.
They disgust me.
Dynaphus 7 months ago 60
@Dynaphus Both sides have their reasons for using deception and fighting, the Eldar are trying their best to not be wiped out by their enemies and save their souls from Slaanesh's grip, while the Imperials fight for the Emperor and to save the Titan so xenos and other heretic scum cannot use it to their own advantage. It's war and in war good people die on both sides of the conflict. Oceans are filled with blood in the name of one belief or another.
BlackDeathViral03 7 months ago 3
@BlackDeathViral03 "Innocence dies so that Humanity may live"
GeneralSturnn 7 months ago
@Dynaphus I think it not to be so black and white. Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't it true that a vast majority of humans do not even make a psychic presence strong enough for the demons of the warp to notice after death? The Eldar on the other hand are different. I'd kill humans to escape eternal torment, especially if they didn't face the same fate.
Colluctor 6 months ago
@Colluctor Eldar had their chance in unitying all planets under them, but they have failed.... We shall not follow the same footsteps... (speech from someone in a warhammer book ive once read)
thelittlemind 4 months ago
@Dynaphus Very true. Just take a look st what happens if the Eldar reach the gate first. They don't even acknowledge the Imperial Guard as Orks and Chaos troops swarm them. Oh, and the killing billions of humans to save one Eldar? They'll do that to save one Eldar that'll be born 3,000 years in the future. Yeah. Hypocritical scum.
BlackIce3190 6 months ago
@Dynaphus In fact, the wars in Armageddon were caused BY the Eldar.
lukegreen37 4 months ago
@Dynaphus Well said Commisar Dynaphus
ShaunCarlin 1 month ago
@Dynaphus there not real uknow
lookcallumrox 1 week ago
"Without us you face your doom!"
"Eldar, the Cadian 412th have faced doom before, we bested it then and we will best it today"
shows you how much faith Humanity puts in itself compared to the Eldar.
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SentinelSoldier115 8 months ago
I highly fucking doubt that this bitch farseer by technical standards did this to Sturnm. After all, she had to have survived to be in Dark Crusade, meaning that the Imperial Guard failed here, which is complete bullshit.
ntat8 8 months ago
@ntat8 Nah, according to one of the books (name escapes me) when Angelos arrives there he finds the IG in control and the farseer in their custody, somehow she survived, but she escapes and the story goes on.
hellmagefire 8 months ago
FUCK THE ELDAR!!!IMPERIUM OF MAN FOREVER!!!
FutCaBolovanul 9 months ago
@FutCaBolovanul YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
mcz1945 8 months ago
Hah. I respect the General a lot. He shows some regret for the eldar's situation, and that's a lot more than they deserve. Eh I wish eldar would just die out like they are supposed to. Every bit of lore that involves them bores me to sleep with their angry emo attitude and their little sob stories that are supposed to bring sympathy when in reality they brought in on themselves. So to correct the General, "Die well, die unwell, just fucking die, all of ya.".
hellmagefire 9 months ago
someone show me evidence where the imperium destroyed a planet unreasonably that wasn't either heavily argued upon after words or was caused by an outside force they always have a good reason people who hate the imperium just don't read deep enough into their reasoning, also u know who trusted the orks and eldar the squats and guess what they got pretty much completely destroyed by the orks and the eldar ignored their pleas for help
cunroth 10 months ago
I love Imperial gaurds armed with little more then a rifle and the moral they can muster against impossible odds they hold the line! FOR THE IMPERIUM!!
SkyInHeritor 10 months ago
wow. this was such a dick move. i hated Sturnn after this.
phatmonk6195 10 months ago
@phatmonk6195 The Eldar did the same thing. That's not a dick move, that's pretty standard for WH40k.
Rykanable 10 months ago
True Grit!
JC203981 10 months ago
ELDAR! die well...
Boubikos108 10 months ago
Wish there were more imperial guard commanders as awesome as stern...
sadly, badass guard commanders that last more than a century are kind of hard to come by :(
ThePrimarchvulkan 1 year ago
Imperial guards are retards. At least space marines be friended Eldar on the last mission.
hunterfly70 1 year ago
@hunterfly70 ehm mate, have you played mssion 4 of winter assault order side? the eldar objectives are to kill humans and destroy a human base so they can relocate their, making it easier for them to complete their objectives and use humans as a shield against orcks/chaos. taldeer goes so far as to tell her troops to cleanse the human vermin presence. eldar are complete backstabbers
the imperial guard side does not have the humans attack the eldar at all in the objectives. however
Tommonius 1 year ago 42
@Tommonius Don't forget that the Eldar probably could have gone around the Imperial base, but it wouldn't have been as convenient. The Guard were just trying to get to the gate.
numb3rc 11 months ago
@Tommonius Well, to be fair, the Eldar are on the brink of extinction, not that I support them, or condone what they did, but still, in times like theirs, I wouldn't wonder why the Eldar did what they did.
Replican815 9 months ago
@Replican815 true maybe, but in all the games the imperials inflict heavy fatalities on the eldar, you would think they would learn their damn lesson. i mean they got farseers that can predict the future but because they think to much of their own power, make mistakes and get owned hard.
ah well they will all be dead (as soon as people stop collecting their models :P )
Tommonius 9 months ago
@Tommonius Ha ha, so true. They are too overconfident, because they've been around since ancient times, not before the Necrons though, and have the second most advanced tech in the galaxy... perhaps the Tau are almost on par with them, though.
Replican815 9 months ago
@hunterfly70 The Eldar are not to be trusted. They proved that in DoW, and they proved in WA.
Rykanable 11 months ago
lol @ 1:00 a stormboy gets knocked through the shield, gets up, and goes back through it...
Miidgi 1 year ago
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TehVirtual 1 year ago
I know that Eldar are not niecest people in the (dark)Galaxy, but that was one of THE BIGEST DOUGHBAGS THING EVA.
Besides, i'm not big fan of Imperium (SM,SB, IG, Inqiz.). I realy dont like this naci-rasist-xenofobic-religion psychos.
igilistr 1 year ago
@igilistr Can you really blame them? The other races are not different in any kind. Well, 'cept for the Orks. They just want a good fight.
And Eldar are the biggest nazis in DoW anyway.
Rykanable 11 months ago
@Rykanable One of the sources for Imperium was Nazi germany. Alog with Ancient Rome, Medievil, Inquizition and Sovet Union. Awsome things, isn't?
Besides, I'm still not fan of Space nacis...sory, Imperium.
Mass Effect 4ever
igilistr 11 months ago
@igilistr ehm sorry but your wrong there. the 40k universe is not a game for closet racists/nazis.
it is about a universe consumed by mistrust and war, the imperim does shady things but they have a tendency to hold their hands up and say yea using exterminatus on this planet sucks but its better the taint does not spread to yet another planet, where as the so called "good" race the tau began expanding its borders similar to nazi germany and do their best to justify their wars on the greater good
Tommonius 11 months ago
@Tommonius Did i say domethunk like this, man? Creators of WH40k realy uses this states and events as inspiration for Imperium.
And I'M NOT FAN OF IMPERIUM. How many times must i say this? They was only inspiration for my ME-fanfic (i was workin on some kind of ME:mirror-universe).
igilistr 11 months ago
@igilistr I know of the sources for the Imperium in WH40K. Still, if you are looking for real Nazis in WH40K, look at the Eldar. Seriously.
Rykanable 11 months ago
@Rykanable Excpet not at all. If you want 40k Nazis look at the Imperium. They destroy entire planets simply because they THINK that it might be tainted. They execute anyone who questions their logic stating that it's heresy. The Imperium is the true Nazi of the Warhammer world.
Arkaeya 11 months ago
@Arkaeya lol the eldar never did this look up graz rakall thrukka or sumtin but long story short they HELPED an ork become powerful so he would fight the imperium and the greatest farseer ever killed millions of humans to save ten-thousand eldar
cunroth 10 months ago
@cunroth This is true, but they're also on the edge of extinction. And it wasn't that they wanted him to attack the Imperium. It was that they tipped the balance of the ork clans in the favor of one who had no interest in attacking the Eldar. Not to mention the Imperium is pretty much nothing but a bunch of xeno-phobic assholes. The eldar may have their moments, but they still don't slaughter bollions of innocents just because they think the planet is tainted.
Arkaeya 10 months ago
@Arkaeya the eldar would gladly sacrifice an entire sector of humans for a mere thousand of themsleves. It is stated in DOW2.
munguntulga 9 months ago
@Arkaeya No, they just make the Orks slay BILLIONS of innocents just to save their asses. Armageddon wars 2nd and 3rd.
Eobryne 9 months ago
@Arkaeya They're too weak and coward to do it by themselves. That's all. They're even more manipulative and "xeno-phobic" assholes like any other.
Eobryne 9 months ago
@Arkaeya No? Play DOW2 and say that again. I'm not gonna deny that the Imperium are xenophobes or assholes, in fact, that's mostly part of their charm. What's the eldar's charm? Dying? Oh please. But whatever, you like the emo space elves, good for you, but don't try to make them into some shining monument of virtue, they are severely fucked up, and the situation they are in is their very own fault. And as much as you claim you do, you don't know shit about WH40k, so shut the hell up.
hellmagefire 9 months ago
@hellmagefire Except not at all. You're the one who doesn't know shit about WH40k. Yes the Eldar's situation is their own fault but unlike the Imperium they're actually trying to deal with the god they created. I never said that they were a shining monument but they are far more humane than the Imperium. Yes, they do throw away thousands of human lives but they do it for a greater cause. And the Imperium is far more fucked up than the eldar. They kill innocents because of sheer paranoia .
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@Arkaeya. Even if you didn't know shit about WH you'd still for an opinion by at least playing their games, I'm not gonna say reading their fluff books, Eldar are the biggest idiots in the goddamn world. Perhaps the imperium might be cruel, but they aren't messed up, manipulative scumbags like the eldar, who treat humans like pests but when it gets tough they run to them and ask nonchalantly for help after attacking them ,expecting sympathy because, aww, they are dying. Emo race for emo people.
hellmagefire 9 months ago
@Arkaeya And if you did know shit about WH40k you'd know that heresy or corruption lead to big fucking disasters, kind of like the birth of a chaos god, or at least a demon, if you can take the hint, that's why there are so feared and dealt with swiftly. And I'm not trying to make excuses for them, in fact I like them because they are what they are, unlike you who are sobbing here about the poor eldar going extinct and how it's ok to attempt genocide because that somehow gives them the right.
hellmagefire 9 months ago
@hellmagefire You really need to work on your social issues. Not did I insult you, yet you call me emo and say I don't know shit about what I'm talking about. If anything it's you who doesn't know what you're talking about. Whenever someone begins to lose an argument they always revert to insulting the other person, which you already done several times. And the Imperium isn't messed up? During the "Great Crusade" they slaughtered entire planets of humans simply because of difference in opinions.
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@Arkaeya That's not an insult. It's simply an observation. Like calling the pig, a pig. So spare me the hurt feelings routine. And given that the great crusade strengthened the human species, the worlds that fell would have taken it in the face eventually, if not from the orks then certainly from your little emo space elves. So cut the crap, eldar are what's left of a civilization whose decadence created an universal evil. So whatever crap they are in, cannot be justified by any means.
hellmagefire 9 months ago
@hellmagefire Except that's not an observation. Just because I like the Eldar doesn't mean I'm emo. And yeah the Great Crusade "strengthened" the human race. Strengthened it so much that it caused half of the Emperors warriors to turn to chaos. So if that's your idea of strengthening then yes, it did. And yes they can be justified by their actions. The Horus Heresy series talks of several points where the eldar tried to warn the Imperium of Horus' betrayal, yet they were ignored.
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@Arkaeya Well you are the one sobbing for their unfortunate times. But anyway, the Great Crusade basically unified the imperium, there were heretics then just as there are in the current timeline and space marines still turn to chaos, corrupted, that's why the imperium is so paranoid, obviously with good reason. And if the Eldar wouldn't be such backstabbing, manipulative sods, the imperium might have even listened to them about Horus.
hellmagefire 9 months ago
@hellmagefire Again you fail to understand basic reason. Just because I'm arguing a different point of view doesn't mean that I'm sobbing. And the Imperium was unified before the Great Crusade. All the Great Crusade was is the conquering of planets and slaughtering of entire civilizations simply because they wouldn't abandon their faith and join the emperor. And no marine had ever turned traitor before the Imperium got greedy and felt the need to conquer the galaxy.
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@Arkaeya You forgot the whole "searching for the missing primarches"
firelord699 9 months ago
@firelord699 Yes, but the Great Crusade wasn't meant to find them. Finding them was just a bonus. The Great Crusade was meant to "bring the light of the emperor to every corner of the galaxy."
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@Arkaeya the imperium is a lie and the high lords of terra have ordered the iqustion to kill the only thing that can bring the emporer back the sensi BUT might not need them if the star child fully developes so i say all the space mariens kill the lords of terra and take control of the imperium so that the truth can be seen lol i wish this would happen cuase if it did it would be epic to know that they had the same idea for story as me
DarkOne57s 9 months ago
@DarkOne57s
If anyone is going to kill the lords of terra it will probably be the custodians. All they have to do is call the lords a direct threat to the emperor and off their heads go. In theory with the 40k lore though, the worship of the emperor would give him great strength in the warp enhancing his already great psychic abilities. No direct evidence but trillions of humans, the things that made 3 of 4 chaos gods, cheering for the emperor must have some effect.
FedorovAvtomat 7 months ago
@Arkaeya Damnit, must have been a cover up! Wouldn't want to be telling the public and even enemies that they were planning to depend on the primarches.
firelord699 9 months ago
@Arkaeya Comparing the Imperium to the Nazis is the most common stupidity said about it. Don't compare ruining billions of lives because of a bunch of Chaos Worshippers (which is a REAL and DIRE threat to mankind) with the dellusions of a madman who just wanted to exterminate an ethnic group because he felt like it.
Eobryne 9 months ago
@Eobryne Again though you fail to see the fact that the eldar are on the edge of exinction. They're the last of their kind. Meanwhile, humanity inhabits thousands upon thousands of planets, with billions on each planet. Not to mention that the eldar actually do more in combating the forces of chaos than the Imperium does. The Imperium only fights chaos when it has to, whereas the eldar have willing gone to fight the forces of chaos and craftworld Ulthwe is stationed at the eye of terror.
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@Arkaeya I repeat so you can understand better: The Imperium are not nazis. They don't kill people by exterminatus or for heresy just for a dellusion of a madman leader. The threat is REAL. Just ONE person may, by mistake for reading the wrong book, saying the wrong words, or simply being in the wrong place, doom an entire sector by summoning daemons or be possessed. Innocent die so that humanity may live. Eldar are just cruel, cold hearted extremists,The Fall speaks enough about them.And clear.
Eobryne 9 months ago
@Eobryne And you need to actually read the entire conversation before you jump in and start assuming you know what you're talking about. The conversation was about how the Imperium were the 40k race that was the closest to being nazis. And the Eldar aren't just cruel. They're on the brink of destruction and trying to survive. Since you know nothing about the Imperium I'd suggest reading up on their history. They would execute people simply for believing that there may be an afterlife out there.
Arkaeya 9 months ago
@igilistr hmm ancient rome the one bastion of philosophy and science in the ancient world, hmm the spanish inquisition were the ones who went crazy and killed people, and hey communism that's cool better than shitty capitalism so yeah pretty cool
cunroth 10 months ago
d i e w e l l y o u m o t h e r f u c k e r s!
eljimador225 1 year ago 43
LOL AT 59th second you see a chaos space marine fly through that portal thingie.
serioushamster 1 year ago
for the guard
Commisar1000 1 year ago
i noticed there is a land raider and a champlain amoung the guardsmen... wth? ive NEVER seen guardsmen and Spess Marines not kill eachother before.
unit529 1 year ago
@unit529 Imperial Guard and Space Marines belong to the same race:Humans.Therefore,they are friendly to each other untill,say....the commanders have conflicting orders from the high command or something like that.
Andri474 1 year ago
@Andri474 hmm nice try...but chaos are humans too:)) IG and SM belongs to emperorand fight for imperium of man:)
Mishai87 1 year ago
d i e w e l l !
Mendisal 1 year ago
eldar are assholes sturnn wanted to save them but he didnt want to risk the life of his men taldeer leaves without hesitation see the difference asshole warhero asshole warhero
hank500thecool 1 year ago
haha i really hope this is canon, a lot of people say eldar canon ending cause she shows up in another expansion but still no proof, it could be a hybrid ending snd sturnn lives.
I note she isnt acting high and mighty now when during their mission the eldar break the damn treaty with the imperials and attack 1 of their bases, and Sturnn if he could save them without loosing his men probarbly would, but in eldar ending she makes a speech on how great she is and ignores imperials dieing
DIE ELDAR!
Tommonius 1 year ago
@Tommonius guard win. talder just gets raped and barly survives.
wicNKWD37 1 year ago
@wicNKWD37 canonically Eldar win though other details are not fixed
ValkyrieCaine 1 year ago
@ValkyrieCaine hmm strange.
wicNKWD37 1 year ago
@ValkyrieCaine i read the novel, canon imperial guard win and have the titan, the blood ravens are passing by the system and visit the planet, the farseer escaped death offscreen and is hunted by the imperium for attacking them in her side of mission 4
FOR THE EMPEROR
Tommonius 1 year ago
@wicNKWD37 saw the novel, yes guard win WOOOOO
Tommonius 1 year ago
@Tommonius Which novel? You mean the NON-canon Bloodravens novel? Yeah, that's not canon. IG wins here regardless, as seen in DC.
Rykanable 11 months ago
@Rykanable well the novel is debatable but it is not stated wither way, its the 1 dawn of war without clear ending. taldeer did not have to win in order to escape alive, if she had been locked out of the titan shield she could of escaped off screen as she was not shown killed. dark crusade does not proove guard win winter assault though, lukas alexander has orders to hunt her down for her betrayel in WA but thats about it
Tommonius 11 months ago
only one word: epic^^
spacemarinehero123 1 year ago
@spacemarinehero123 TRULY EPIC
Mendisal 1 year ago
Sturnn manliest man in wh4k.
romanov77 1 year ago
@romanov77 The Dude is the God of MASCULINITY!!
Selenagomezbigfanguy 1 year ago
I was the IG, hate the eldar
zeshleman 1 year ago
Fuck you Sturn! Ilike Eldar!
kratos3111 1 year ago
can you send me the music track please, I cant fined it.
lordgluzman 1 year ago
@lordgluzman PM me your email.
BigDickCheney 1 year ago
@BigDickCheney
Did you get it?
lordgluzman 1 year ago
@BigDickCheney could you sent it to me too .?please
MultiNaxx 1 year ago
How many times humanity has faced their doom and still survived from it ?
frustratedgamerguy 1 year ago
To those who thinks Sturn shows regret, very small regret, for allowing Taldeer to die, let me ask this. Would Sturn actually save the xenos if there was a way to keep all of his men alive and not compromise his mission?
Zkingz17 1 year ago
general sturn is a smart man to betray the eldar
dickmann1231 1 year ago
@dickmann1231 To betray someone, you must trust them.
deadlykeybord 1 year ago
I just don't get why the Taldeer don't just teleports trough the damn gate...
toorajii111111111111 1 year ago
@toorajii111111111111
somthing to do with the physic barrier
mOnK27640 1 year ago
great song
bugbait1 1 year ago
Ad ogni modo la musica di sottofondo è : Indigo Prophercy - 11 (Angelo Badalamenti & Normand Co)
Complimenti all'autore che è riuscito ad inseirirla senza sovrapporre i dialoghi originali.
Kaserkin 1 year ago
La musica aggiunta di sottonfondo è bellissima...aggiunge un forte impatto emotivo di sacrificio ed onore...da dov'è stata presa ? Non mi sembra che sia quella di base di WA....
Kaserkin 1 year ago
Ig is not to weak to face necrons bring baneblades kasrikans and basilks also orgryns and lemon russes
TheOwie15 1 year ago
Eldar, the Cadian 412th have faced doom before. We bested it then, and we will best it today! Die well!
The fools! Necrons are more then just doom for them! The IG is too weak to fight the necrons!
Warhiji 1 year ago
@Warhiji Not when there's an Imperator Titan on their side :)
canpitt 1 year ago
@canpitt Well, the Necrons can still defeat the IG even with an Imperator Titan, for if they would releas there true power the Tomb Stalker, then 1 Imperator Titan will not do.
Warhiji 1 year ago
ummmmmm sturnn should have helped them it is so depressing wit the song
warriorfar9 1 year ago
"Only fools believe that the enemy of my enemy is my friend." And Sturnn is right they`re Xenos after all. For the emperor !
Sensorghosts 1 year ago
lol that taldeer british voice in w.a. :D
minvydaaas454 1 year ago
oh come on relic bring strurnn back!!
gohtutnobz 1 year ago
1:02 One of the units went partially throught the gate.
bluemoon692 1 year ago
"Only fools believe that the enemy of the enemy is my friend?" And you just let the Eldar die?
Sternn, you DESERVE to get your soul sucked out, right after you stop sandpapering your throat.
Kemonokami 1 year ago
@Kemonokami dude :| sturrn is badass and better then the eldar bcuz if the eldar win they boast about it and when the guard wins sturrn shows respect to them and wishes them good luck...thats why sturrn is BADASS!!!!
commisarbenno 1 year ago
@Kemonokami He Deserve the biggest glory the Emperor could give him.
When Taldeer leaves him alone, she is very selfles. Sturnn showed respect even to xenos. He made good point, live of his soldiers are far more important than Eldar.
Sruba4 1 year ago
only one conclusion: HUMANS RUUUULE
Petroskaixeropsomi 1 year ago
If you think about it IG had a better chance of fighting of the necrons then eldar because (i know that you can recharge the stone) but howmany times could they use the stone. they used it once and it was useless while ig fired away with the titan guns
thelittlemind 1 year ago
@thelittlemind
Yeah. The IG are tough and durable PLUS they have the numbers to hold their own against the Necrons as well as the firepower to do so.
girlgarde 1 year ago
EPIC
OJODEHIELO 1 year ago
I find it strange that the Eldar are naïve enough to trust Imperial forces to be their allies, despite all their wisdom.
Tomahaukka 1 year ago
@Tomahaukka Showing they aren't wise, just stuck-ups. Why should the IG trust them, when they have prooven to be trustunworthy, and when the IG can't trust them?
indendunklenschatten 1 year ago
@indendunklenschatten the eldar are wise theres nothing you could do to stop that, and there only stuck up becuase they know so much, there minds are constantly at danger, no wonder there gunna be sly. huumans are pretty much worthless.
yttihp11 1 year ago
@indendunklenschatten
Agreed. The Eldar need to understand that we humans don't take too kindly to being doublecrossed. If they want the Imperium to trust and help them, they need to earn our trust and do things for us even if it threatens their short term interests.......
girlgarde 1 year ago
@girlgarde
The Tau, Eldar and humans are out for the same goal, so they should finally stop bitching around, trust each other and join forces. They could defeat the evil ones in no time.
indendunklenschatten 1 year ago
@indendunklenschatten
I know that, it would be handy for all three races if they teamed up. I'm merely saying that the Eldar need to stop backstabbing others so much. That's why the Imperium doesn't trust them and backstabs them in return because they expect the Eldar to do it to them given how they've treated humans in the past.
girlgarde 1 year ago
@indendunklenschatten yeah, but the humans (imperium) doesnt trust the eldar bcuz the eldar trick the huamsn everytime and i dont know how the imperium thinks about the TAU...maybe if they leave eachothers religion alone the tau and humans would be one badass army
commisarbenno 1 year ago
@commisarbenno
They'd be unstopable...
indendunklenschatten 1 year ago
@indendunklenschatten i think the tau would like to comprimises but i dont know if the inquistion wants peace, bcuz the tau r heretics and whatsoever..BUT F*CK YEAH THEY WOULD BE UNSTOPABLE !!!!
commisarbenno 1 year ago
@commisarbenno
Heretics... I know, that's what the INQUISITION keeps on saying. The Emperorer never said anything like that. Why should he. So, as for my opinion, I think that the Inquisition is just like the Christian church was back then: an institution just looking out for their own benefit, and to achieve that goal, the lie, lie, lie, lie, and fucking lie. So fuck the Inquisition, join the Tau and defeat the evil.
indendunklenschatten 1 year ago