ah but sadly its not just Americans. Many science deniars here in Canada too. I think degeneration has begun, people have indeed become sheeple. the belief in gods, science denial, all signs of degeneration I think.
Your "mountain of peer reviewed " evidence has been shown to be manipulated and edited in order to support the theory of AGW. The editors of the peer reviewed journals have been shown to be either intimidated into excluding evidence of equal quality or acting as a willing accomplice to only allowing the false data to be put forward. "Facts are facts" so tell me asshole, how about the fact that YOUR facts are based on lies and deceptions.
@drreedindeed, please tell me that when you say the evidence has been "shown to be manipulated" that you are NOT referring to "climate-gate?" Please tell me you have something more to bring to this "debate," (something more than just inanely referring to science as "lies.") What you offer is nothing more than a pathetic attempt at an ad hominem against science. Grow up little man.
he says this to the man who's seeing 5 women at once because WOMEN have comitment issues far worse than I do. Substituting a personal attack in place of argument? I guess I'm just as guilty calling you ignorant but still.
you want to know my biggest question? What is up with all of these fucking morons who everytime the tempature drops 10 degrees declare it's all a sham. How ignorant can you be? A WEEK! A WEEK IS A GREAT BIG FANTASTIC SAMPLE! WE CAN FORECAST THE NEXT 50 FUCKING YEARS FROM THIS! WOOHA IM A FUCKING GENIUS!
Yea that has always annoyed me... like, you'll have one kind-of-cold day in May, and all of a sudden everyone's like, "pffft, global warming my ass, it's 40 in May! Idiots!"... lol
I understand what you mean, but I think that we have to try for change for the sake of it, not to make ourselves feel better. I also think that its a bit harsh to wish that on their kids- I dont think that anyone is responsible for (or deserving of reward for) something that their ancestors/ parents/ family do. But the rest I agree with.
It doesn't matter to me, no. Not when it comes to issues that deal in facts. That's the whole point. The scientific method isn't about opinion. Opinion only goes so far, and then it's a matter of empiricism. People can either choose to believe what the facts say, or they cannot. For those who choose to ignore the data, I simply say "begone."
I've debated with many climate-change skeptics. Maybe they're not all the same. But do you know what one thing I've noticed as a universal amongst them? They rely on rhetoric. They base their arguments on politics and semantics and greatly ignore the facts. It's "liberal this! and liberal that!" I don't care about that. I want to hear the FACTS which support the case against man-made climate change.
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Jesus would have cast these CO2 tricksters from the lands. Usury is usury. Fraud is fraud. This past week has set NEW cold temperature records. Its fucking freezing in T.O. All my plants are dead or dying. We need more CO2 in the air to increase the green abundance on Earth. Were does your food chain begin? Most likely it begins with a plant that thrives in CO2 enriched environments. When you double the atmospheric CO2, the plants can more then double in size. It's true. Look it up!!
It's not just about plants. There are many other factors involved. You are somewhat right about this though, that's the whole point of a greenhouse. But a greenhouse is an isolated ecosphere. We're talking about the Earth here; where not just plants, but millions of other species rely upon a steady climate with steady CO2 levels. No one is trying to say that a rise in CO2 will cause life on Earth to vanish, that's not the point. The point is that our civilization is dependent upon the climate.
So, when the temp rises, insect populations explode at a seemingly exponential rate. Many will tell you this is BAD. Just like the pine beetle situation. No its not bad!! More insects mean more food in the food chain. Insects eat insects, plants eat insects, some mammals eat insects, etc. Every environmental niche or microclimate will be fully exploited by any and all creatures that are interacting with it. No need to try and control every facet of the natural world.
only an idiot thinks a few weeks of cold weather establishes a global pattern large enough to totally undo scientific consensus. It's fucking freezing in T.O. It's called a cold front. Try measuring T.O over the course of the last 100 years. When you get back to us with those results we'll talk. Your sample period is WAY Too limited to have ANY meaning.
''Don't blame me I tried'' - This is my new motto!
It does get frustrating confronting all the idiots. I don't have too much of capacity to handle it that well so I'm hanging with people that I more-less agree with.
Yea, sounds like a good strategy. Every once in a while I'll take on a healthy debate, if I think it's worth it. But that's a rare occasion. People would much rather talk AT you than with you. Thanks for commenting.
ah but sadly its not just Americans. Many science deniars here in Canada too. I think degeneration has begun, people have indeed become sheeple. the belief in gods, science denial, all signs of degeneration I think.
inglefud 1 year ago
Your "mountain of peer reviewed " evidence has been shown to be manipulated and edited in order to support the theory of AGW. The editors of the peer reviewed journals have been shown to be either intimidated into excluding evidence of equal quality or acting as a willing accomplice to only allowing the false data to be put forward. "Facts are facts" so tell me asshole, how about the fact that YOUR facts are based on lies and deceptions.
drreedindeed 1 year ago
@drreedindeed, please tell me that when you say the evidence has been "shown to be manipulated" that you are NOT referring to "climate-gate?" Please tell me you have something more to bring to this "debate," (something more than just inanely referring to science as "lies.") What you offer is nothing more than a pathetic attempt at an ad hominem against science. Grow up little man.
xx13moons 1 year ago
@xx13moons climategate was manipulated. just google climategate and mediamatters
Fireinthedawn 1 year ago
oh and fuck that! They're going to be responsible for the misery of MY genetic legacy.
Fireinthedawn 2 years ago
Your genetic legacy self evidently leaves much to be desired.
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
he says this to the man who's seeing 5 women at once because WOMEN have comitment issues far worse than I do. Substituting a personal attack in place of argument? I guess I'm just as guilty calling you ignorant but still.
Fireinthedawn 2 years ago
you want to know my biggest question? What is up with all of these fucking morons who everytime the tempature drops 10 degrees declare it's all a sham. How ignorant can you be? A WEEK! A WEEK IS A GREAT BIG FANTASTIC SAMPLE! WE CAN FORECAST THE NEXT 50 FUCKING YEARS FROM THIS! WOOHA IM A FUCKING GENIUS!
...the level of ignorance is profound.
Fireinthedawn 2 years ago
Record cold temps. RECORD.
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
Yea that has always annoyed me... like, you'll have one kind-of-cold day in May, and all of a sudden everyone's like, "pffft, global warming my ass, it's 40 in May! Idiots!"... lol
xx13moons 2 years ago
I understand what you mean, but I think that we have to try for change for the sake of it, not to make ourselves feel better. I also think that its a bit harsh to wish that on their kids- I dont think that anyone is responsible for (or deserving of reward for) something that their ancestors/ parents/ family do. But the rest I agree with.
cubanoafuego 2 years ago
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The sky is only purple for those climate change crusaders that have been warring their sunglasses for so long they have forgot the sky is blue.
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
Climate Gate is a fact. Peak Oil is a fact. What facts do you speak of?
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
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You say you support debate and somehow at the same time say everyones opinion doesnt matter. LMAO
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
It doesn't matter to me, no. Not when it comes to issues that deal in facts. That's the whole point. The scientific method isn't about opinion. Opinion only goes so far, and then it's a matter of empiricism. People can either choose to believe what the facts say, or they cannot. For those who choose to ignore the data, I simply say "begone."
xx13moons 2 years ago
I've debated with many climate-change skeptics. Maybe they're not all the same. But do you know what one thing I've noticed as a universal amongst them? They rely on rhetoric. They base their arguments on politics and semantics and greatly ignore the facts. It's "liberal this! and liberal that!" I don't care about that. I want to hear the FACTS which support the case against man-made climate change.
xx13moons 2 years ago
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Jesus would have cast these CO2 tricksters from the lands. Usury is usury. Fraud is fraud. This past week has set NEW cold temperature records. Its fucking freezing in T.O. All my plants are dead or dying. We need more CO2 in the air to increase the green abundance on Earth. Were does your food chain begin? Most likely it begins with a plant that thrives in CO2 enriched environments. When you double the atmospheric CO2, the plants can more then double in size. It's true. Look it up!!
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
It's not just about plants. There are many other factors involved. You are somewhat right about this though, that's the whole point of a greenhouse. But a greenhouse is an isolated ecosphere. We're talking about the Earth here; where not just plants, but millions of other species rely upon a steady climate with steady CO2 levels. No one is trying to say that a rise in CO2 will cause life on Earth to vanish, that's not the point. The point is that our civilization is dependent upon the climate.
xx13moons 2 years ago
So, when the temp rises, insect populations explode at a seemingly exponential rate. Many will tell you this is BAD. Just like the pine beetle situation. No its not bad!! More insects mean more food in the food chain. Insects eat insects, plants eat insects, some mammals eat insects, etc. Every environmental niche or microclimate will be fully exploited by any and all creatures that are interacting with it. No need to try and control every facet of the natural world.
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
only an idiot thinks a few weeks of cold weather establishes a global pattern large enough to totally undo scientific consensus. It's fucking freezing in T.O. It's called a cold front. Try measuring T.O over the course of the last 100 years. When you get back to us with those results we'll talk. Your sample period is WAY Too limited to have ANY meaning.
Fireinthedawn 2 years ago
Odiously my point was not that its cold in Toronto in December, but that we are still setting records for cold temps.
HowToChangeTheWorld 2 years ago
"America, FUCK YEAH!"
greenhell666 2 years ago
''Don't blame me I tried'' - This is my new motto!
It does get frustrating confronting all the idiots. I don't have too much of capacity to handle it that well so I'm hanging with people that I more-less agree with.
organdva 2 years ago 2
Yea, sounds like a good strategy. Every once in a while I'll take on a healthy debate, if I think it's worth it. But that's a rare occasion. People would much rather talk AT you than with you. Thanks for commenting.
xx13moons 2 years ago