Como si a la conciencia se le agotasen sus fuerzas y su llama se extinguiese lenta y sabiamente resignada, así es como lo que estuvo vivo, se desintegra, muere o se transforma. Gracias Mahler por permanecer con nosotros en vuestra música.
I'm having trouble enjoying this symphony compared with his 2, 5, 6 or 8. It reminds me of what Hanslick said of Bruckner: "dismal longwindedness", almost like Schoenberg in its tunelessness.
@11000001100000 I don't think it's meant to be 'enjoyed' as such. Considering what Mahler had gone through and was still going through, I've always seen this symphony and particularly it's ending as embodying the painful numbness experienced after something incredibly traumatic; the ending is utterly devoid of 'tune' for a reason. Just my interpretation.
"Et donc je me retiens et ravale l'appel/ d'obscurs sanglots. Ah, de qui pouvons-nous donc/ avoir besoin ? Ni d'anges, ni d'humains,/ et les bêtes ingénieuses voient déjà bien/ que nous ne sommes pas si confiants que cela sous nos toits/ dans l'univers expliqué. Peut-être qu'il nous reste/ quelque arbre sur la pente, où nous pourrions chaque jour/ le revoir ; il nous reste la route d'hier/ et la fidélité mal élevée d'une habitude/ qui s'est bien plu chez nous et n'est pas repartie."
He used to be the director of the Orchestre de Radio France. But I think he held that position for a brief while. Now, he's the Principal Conductor of the Seoul Phiharmonic Orchestra.
I am sorry to say, but he has been the director of the Orchestre de Radio France since his return in 2000 and still is. I saw him conduct the orchestra several times this year and my colleagues work with him throughout the year. If you don't believe me, check the internet.
what gets me is how many classical music afficionados with a broad taste have still not yet come to discover this symphony, which is undoubtedly one of the greatest ever symphonic works, if not the greatest.
I find this performance to be halfway between the indulgence of bernstein and the otherworldly distance of abbado which is perfect for my taste, I do find definately though that the YouTubes sound qaulity does not quite do this extraordinary performance justice...yet
i think the most beautiful part is not necessarily how beautiful the piece is, dont get me wrong this is probably the most heart-wrenching piece for me to listen to, but also the fact that the crowd was so pulled in to the music that there was a good 15-20 seconds of dead silence after the orchestra cut out. excellent excellent.
Segundo Schoenberg,a nona sinfonia de Mahler foi a obra mais gloriosa escrita por ele.Sem duvida,admiravel e rica orquestração,profundo sentimento de aceitação da morte,antecipa a musica dodecafonica em alguns trechos,cheia de sons murumurantes,como num sonho.Obra eterna,por excelencia.
I have heard this symphony twice in concert. The audience destroyed the last movement both times. First time due to loud coughing at the quietest parts, and the second, a lady's cell phone at the ending quiet section, then a man clapping very loudly right at the end (unlike here where the audience waited for the conductor). I am going to the NY phil in June (have tickets to two concerts) to see if I can hear this without audience "participation" - Because I love this piece!
i think he is best in mahler, debussy and messian
KYUNGILNAM 1 month ago
great !
pela4350 9 months ago
Como si a la conciencia se le agotasen sus fuerzas y su llama se extinguiese lenta y sabiamente resignada, así es como lo que estuvo vivo, se desintegra, muere o se transforma. Gracias Mahler por permanecer con nosotros en vuestra música.
osobucopao 1 year ago
I'm having trouble enjoying this symphony compared with his 2, 5, 6 or 8. It reminds me of what Hanslick said of Bruckner: "dismal longwindedness", almost like Schoenberg in its tunelessness.
11000001100000 2 years ago
@11000001100000 I don't think it's meant to be 'enjoyed' as such. Considering what Mahler had gone through and was still going through, I've always seen this symphony and particularly it's ending as embodying the painful numbness experienced after something incredibly traumatic; the ending is utterly devoid of 'tune' for a reason. Just my interpretation.
Shostasymphony 1 year ago
"Et donc je me retiens et ravale l'appel/ d'obscurs sanglots. Ah, de qui pouvons-nous donc/ avoir besoin ? Ni d'anges, ni d'humains,/ et les bêtes ingénieuses voient déjà bien/ que nous ne sommes pas si confiants que cela sous nos toits/ dans l'univers expliqué. Peut-être qu'il nous reste/ quelque arbre sur la pente, où nous pourrions chaque jour/ le revoir ; il nous reste la route d'hier/ et la fidélité mal élevée d'une habitude/ qui s'est bien plu chez nous et n'est pas repartie."
MrRaph87 2 years ago
Rainer-Maria Rilke : "Elégies de Duino, I." (extr.)
MrRaph87 2 years ago
@MrRaph87 - C'est ce que me disais. Il y a une correspondance forte entre Mahler, Rilke et T.S.Eliott
CHASTAGNOL55 7 months ago
bye.
lumarelumare 2 years ago
Bravo!!! Bravo Maestro Chung! Such a great joy to hear your impressive interpretation!
violench 2 years ago 2
Myung-Whun Chung is the music director of the Seoul Philharmonic in South Korea, I believe.
rankfrankrank 2 years ago 2
No, he is the director of the Orchestre de Radio France in Paris and has been so since 2000.
papillondeparis84 2 years ago
He used to be the director of the Orchestre de Radio France. But I think he held that position for a brief while. Now, he's the Principal Conductor of the Seoul Phiharmonic Orchestra.
rankfrankrank 2 years ago 2
I am sorry to say, but he has been the director of the Orchestre de Radio France since his return in 2000 and still is. I saw him conduct the orchestra several times this year and my colleagues work with him throughout the year. If you don't believe me, check the internet.
papillondeparis84 2 years ago 2
No, I believe you. I just thought he resigned. Thank you for the correction
rankfrankrank 2 years ago
He is a chief conductor of both Radio France and the Seoul Philharmonic.
czechmusic 2 years ago
@czechmusic
TS Eliott?
CHASTAGNOL55 7 months ago
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
This is the way the world ends
Not with a bang but a whimper.
yiyang522 3 years ago 19
@yiyang522
T.S.Eliott. Exactly. Regards from Europe
CHASTAGNOL55 7 months ago
what gets me is how many classical music afficionados with a broad taste have still not yet come to discover this symphony, which is undoubtedly one of the greatest ever symphonic works, if not the greatest.
I find this performance to be halfway between the indulgence of bernstein and the otherworldly distance of abbado which is perfect for my taste, I do find definately though that the YouTubes sound qaulity does not quite do this extraordinary performance justice...yet
Hexachloraphine 3 years ago 8
It´s amazing the way the huge sound mass fades away. This is not music. This is philosophy for the ears.
ANFeuerstahl 3 years ago 3
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Redwizard918 3 years ago
this Tokyo orchestra is impressive.
watch out Berlin
Hexachloraphine 3 years ago 2
i think the most beautiful part is not necessarily how beautiful the piece is, dont get me wrong this is probably the most heart-wrenching piece for me to listen to, but also the fact that the crowd was so pulled in to the music that there was a good 15-20 seconds of dead silence after the orchestra cut out. excellent excellent.
pianomatteo 3 years ago 2
Maestro Chung
LucaYune 3 years ago 7
1:38 That trumpet player looks like Al Hirt!
TheSanityInspector 3 years ago 4
i love love love this symphony <3
twiggymunchkin 3 years ago 2
Segundo Schoenberg,a nona sinfonia de Mahler foi a obra mais gloriosa escrita por ele.Sem duvida,admiravel e rica orquestração,profundo sentimento de aceitação da morte,antecipa a musica dodecafonica em alguns trechos,cheia de sons murumurantes,como num sonho.Obra eterna,por excelencia.
NaylaZim 3 years ago
Agreed. It wasn't until Gorecki's Third Symphony that anything like this, in terms of power and mood, was composed.
TheSanityInspector 3 years ago
Myung-Whun Chung is a great conductor.
maestra21 3 years ago 14
Reminds me of Carlo Maria Giulini......
Music2Die4 3 years ago 2
I have heard this symphony twice in concert. The audience destroyed the last movement both times. First time due to loud coughing at the quietest parts, and the second, a lady's cell phone at the ending quiet section, then a man clapping very loudly right at the end (unlike here where the audience waited for the conductor). I am going to the NY phil in June (have tickets to two concerts) to see if I can hear this without audience "participation" - Because I love this piece!
subnor100 3 years ago 5