I have no passion about the bible. It is what it is. A book written by a less intelligent earlier generation of modern man who couldn't logically explain the world around them. What does get me passionate is people using it and it's history of parents teaching children it is a real thing to do something for themselves.
you are saying the same thing I am, only I recognize that people DO treasure the bible so I use it to awaken them. Once they make the connection in their minds that the etymology of Holy Bible just means Health Book then they look at it in a different manner.
jfreedom2 said... "I don't and I discourage people from being a part of religion."
So then why reference a christian bible or mention Jesus for that matter. Unless you are using it instead to reach your ends. Which makes you even more of a charlatan.
sandar2020, do you notice the passion with which you write? You have a lot of emotion related to the bible and religion. That passion blinds you to what value there is in the book. You are just as blind as those who believe it is the word of some deity.
The bible sits on my table I read it often. There is nothing in it that is as useful for modern man other than a literary piece. Modern science (medical and psychological)and secular gatherings offers for more therapeutic value. Hey I love you to man... I'm not angry I feel disappointment and sadness for you and people like you. I am fearful of the damage to future generations that fall prey to people like you. What you are sensing, if I might coin a phrase here...is "passionate pity".
I reference the bible to build a bridge between the old language of health (bible) and the modern language of science. Their goal was the same thing (although some religions people corrupt that goal) which is to help people be healthy.
jfreedom2... the point is...Organized or start your own sect what difference does it make. You are pushing a multi thousand year old book written by men with an agenda and presented to their followers as a divine work.
You exploit the weak moments of individuals to give your self importance. The happiness and love everyone needs can be found in themselves and a communal support system. They just need the tools. You just want to convince people the only way they can find inner peace is to do it your way and only your way.
Oh and... I love you man... I love everybody... Though I am sad for you and your boxed in thoughts but... Hey love is important... Keep up the brain washing campaign... I love that too.
Man you look sooo stoned which explains a lot. That was just a joke... Seriously though everything you talk about of finding inner peace can be achieved with out the non sense of organized religion. I for one won't be joining your organization. Cause I am already there. With out diluting myself.
sandar2020, where do you get the idea that I have anything to do with organized religion? I don't and I discourage people from being a part of religion.
You are a snake oil sales man. Why not offer them the tools with out a hook or catch. People reading this should also read the posts on your other video posts as well as here.
In politics, a Liberal is not one who is "liberal with his love." A Liberal is one who is liberal with OTHER PEOPLE'S money. They believe in the ethics of Robin Hood. They believe in punishing ability for being ability and rewarding incompetence for being incompetence. And they believe in using FORCE and VIOLENCE (through taxation) to accomplish those ends. Doesn't sound like a very loving philosophy to me.
RussellsParadox, what you call political liberals I call Left Wing Conservatives; they are not really liberal they just hate different things then Right Wing Conservatives.
Ah, so you're a *classical* liberal... *breaths sigh of relief* Good. Nowadays, you'd be called a Libertarian, or an Objectivist, or an Anarchist, or something like that. And yes, I agree, the two major parties, the Demicans and the Republicrats, are essentially identical.
Unfortunately for me I'm an artist, so I need my pain to create art otherwise, I'll be just like everyone else- a bunch of joy seeking imbeciles. So I'll assume my position in the very highest of cultures vs. the mob mentality. According to Schopenhauer: no one could be a Beethoven, or his contemporary counterpart Charlie Parker.
JFreedom, I really enjoyed the video, especially the part about "expanding your definition of self." When my understanding of love touched on that issue a while back, it really changed how I saw the world. I believe it's both one of the most powerful components of love, and also the most commonly neglected component.
Dirtclan, you claim that what JFreedom is saying here is "common sense to the rest of us." Apparently you haven't really wrapped your mind around the common sense he touches on in this video. If you had, you wouldn't be verbally attacking someone who isn't imposing anything on anyone besides love.
Your words are those of someone who is acting out of fear, not love. Maybe you should watch his video again.
dirtclan, sorry you are so unhappy and illiterate. I suspect you meant to write PREDATOR, since PREDITOR is not a word. I would suggest that you not watch my videos, they seem to really upset you, but you do not want to be woken up (upset) from your slumber. Awake people recognize that appreciation, joy and love feel better than hate.
Ahhh the misspelling of a word. An opportunity to define. If so fact so - I am now illiterate. How "Zen" of you Qui Chang. Happiness is for people like you, a product to be sold through books tapes and seminars. You are the Mr Haney of Green Acres. If someone is looking for an artifact of the soul, you have it for sale. What word define people like you? Oh yes, now I know how to spell it - PREDATOR.
In short Mr jfreedom, (name by design) You are a charlton, a man who sells wares with clever packaging but the box is always empty. Your Jaxson Bear monotone manner of speak screams - PREDITOR !
"What do you want from me?" You present yourself as unchallengeable, pretentiousness defines you. Do you believe if you speak as a sage to an audience, and I happen to be in that audience, that I do not have the same privileges as you?
You live in a bubble that you know is clear. Your folly is your assumption that what you see looking out is what others see looking in. I see a man who has spent time and money learning the art of indoctrination and now seeks to cash in on it.
When we were children in the back woods of a local park we imagined that we had discovered unknown territory. We played there in what we thought was our own private world. This is how I see you. A delusional person who thinks he is the discover of that which turns out to be common sense to all of us. If only you could just be Zen Master Alpha Male of the primate clan. If only...
"...I...I...I..." Fear - fight or flight. "contract"? Flight. Love? A bond that draws two or more people together for procreation or mutual promotion. You teach about you, you are legend in your own mind. Biology need not be taught when we are constantly experiencing it.
I have no passion about the bible. It is what it is. A book written by a less intelligent earlier generation of modern man who couldn't logically explain the world around them. What does get me passionate is people using it and it's history of parents teaching children it is a real thing to do something for themselves.
sandar2020 4 years ago
you are saying the same thing I am, only I recognize that people DO treasure the bible so I use it to awaken them. Once they make the connection in their minds that the etymology of Holy Bible just means Health Book then they look at it in a different manner.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
Okay got ya.
sandar2020 4 years ago
jfreedom2 said... "I don't and I discourage people from being a part of religion."
So then why reference a christian bible or mention Jesus for that matter. Unless you are using it instead to reach your ends. Which makes you even more of a charlatan.
sandar2020 4 years ago
sandar2020, do you notice the passion with which you write? You have a lot of emotion related to the bible and religion. That passion blinds you to what value there is in the book. You are just as blind as those who believe it is the word of some deity.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
The bible sits on my table I read it often. There is nothing in it that is as useful for modern man other than a literary piece. Modern science (medical and psychological)and secular gatherings offers for more therapeutic value. Hey I love you to man... I'm not angry I feel disappointment and sadness for you and people like you. I am fearful of the damage to future generations that fall prey to people like you. What you are sensing, if I might coin a phrase here...is "passionate pity".
sandar2020 4 years ago
I reference the bible to build a bridge between the old language of health (bible) and the modern language of science. Their goal was the same thing (although some religions people corrupt that goal) which is to help people be healthy.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
jfreedom2... the point is...Organized or start your own sect what difference does it make. You are pushing a multi thousand year old book written by men with an agenda and presented to their followers as a divine work.
sandar2020 4 years ago
You exploit the weak moments of individuals to give your self importance. The happiness and love everyone needs can be found in themselves and a communal support system. They just need the tools. You just want to convince people the only way they can find inner peace is to do it your way and only your way.
sandar2020 4 years ago
Oh and... I love you man... I love everybody... Though I am sad for you and your boxed in thoughts but... Hey love is important... Keep up the brain washing campaign... I love that too.
sandar2020 4 years ago
Man you look sooo stoned which explains a lot. That was just a joke... Seriously though everything you talk about of finding inner peace can be achieved with out the non sense of organized religion. I for one won't be joining your organization. Cause I am already there. With out diluting myself.
sandar2020 4 years ago
sandar2020, where do you get the idea that I have anything to do with organized religion? I don't and I discourage people from being a part of religion.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
You are a snake oil sales man. Why not offer them the tools with out a hook or catch. People reading this should also read the posts on your other video posts as well as here.
sandar2020 4 years ago
In politics, a Liberal is not one who is "liberal with his love." A Liberal is one who is liberal with OTHER PEOPLE'S money. They believe in the ethics of Robin Hood. They believe in punishing ability for being ability and rewarding incompetence for being incompetence. And they believe in using FORCE and VIOLENCE (through taxation) to accomplish those ends. Doesn't sound like a very loving philosophy to me.
RussellsParadox 4 years ago
RussellsParadox, what you call political liberals I call Left Wing Conservatives; they are not really liberal they just hate different things then Right Wing Conservatives.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
Ah, so you're a *classical* liberal... *breaths sigh of relief* Good. Nowadays, you'd be called a Libertarian, or an Objectivist, or an Anarchist, or something like that. And yes, I agree, the two major parties, the Demicans and the Republicrats, are essentially identical.
RussellsParadox 4 years ago
Unfortunately for me I'm an artist, so I need my pain to create art otherwise, I'll be just like everyone else- a bunch of joy seeking imbeciles. So I'll assume my position in the very highest of cultures vs. the mob mentality. According to Schopenhauer: no one could be a Beethoven, or his contemporary counterpart Charlie Parker.
Thanks
bpope123 4 years ago
JFreedom, I really enjoyed the video, especially the part about "expanding your definition of self." When my understanding of love touched on that issue a while back, it really changed how I saw the world. I believe it's both one of the most powerful components of love, and also the most commonly neglected component.
Nothing2KillOrDie4 4 years ago
Nothing...
Thanks for you comments. They were helpful.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
Dirtclan, you claim that what JFreedom is saying here is "common sense to the rest of us." Apparently you haven't really wrapped your mind around the common sense he touches on in this video. If you had, you wouldn't be verbally attacking someone who isn't imposing anything on anyone besides love.
Your words are those of someone who is acting out of fear, not love. Maybe you should watch his video again.
Nothing2KillOrDie4 4 years ago
dirtclan, sorry you are so unhappy and illiterate. I suspect you meant to write PREDATOR, since PREDITOR is not a word. I would suggest that you not watch my videos, they seem to really upset you, but you do not want to be woken up (upset) from your slumber. Awake people recognize that appreciation, joy and love feel better than hate.
jfreedom2 4 years ago
Ahhh the misspelling of a word. An opportunity to define. If so fact so - I am now illiterate. How "Zen" of you Qui Chang. Happiness is for people like you, a product to be sold through books tapes and seminars. You are the Mr Haney of Green Acres. If someone is looking for an artifact of the soul, you have it for sale. What word define people like you? Oh yes, now I know how to spell it - PREDATOR.
dirtclan 4 years ago
In short Mr jfreedom, (name by design) You are a charlton, a man who sells wares with clever packaging but the box is always empty. Your Jaxson Bear monotone manner of speak screams - PREDITOR !
dirtclan 4 years ago
dirtclan, you sure are one very unhappy person. I do not know why you hate me but you sure do. What do you want from me?
jfreedom2 4 years ago
"What do you want from me?" You present yourself as unchallengeable, pretentiousness defines you. Do you believe if you speak as a sage to an audience, and I happen to be in that audience, that I do not have the same privileges as you?
dirtclan 4 years ago
You live in a bubble that you know is clear. Your folly is your assumption that what you see looking out is what others see looking in. I see a man who has spent time and money learning the art of indoctrination and now seeks to cash in on it.
dirtclan 4 years ago
When we were children in the back woods of a local park we imagined that we had discovered unknown territory. We played there in what we thought was our own private world. This is how I see you. A delusional person who thinks he is the discover of that which turns out to be common sense to all of us. If only you could just be Zen Master Alpha Male of the primate clan. If only...
dirtclan 4 years ago
"...I...I...I..." Fear - fight or flight. "contract"? Flight. Love? A bond that draws two or more people together for procreation or mutual promotion. You teach about you, you are legend in your own mind. Biology need not be taught when we are constantly experiencing it.
dirtclan 4 years ago