Final Table Poker: Phil Gordon explains the Gap Concept in T

[Tibbettsify]

gordon is a donk... i ko'd him last wsop in a circuit event he played one hand

went like this...

gordon says to floor guy "put me in coach" i hear him talking about autographs

he sat down late but still first level

heads up he's first act ona rainbow 2 7 9 flop

donk bets out 1800 blinds are 25/50

i shove my stack up his ass

donk calls w AJ against my AK

bye donk does walk of shame

[ThizzyMarleyPoker]

@Tibbettsify shut the fuck up that didnt happen.. and your the donk who shoved into a pro with ace high... dude i would give everything i had in the world if you come produce better results than gordon... gordon is legend... WPT champion.. countless final tables... and has written great poker books... what have you done with your life besides beat off to internet porn... get a life loser

[Tibbettsify]

@ThizzyMarleyPoker exactly how it happened I shoved AK because i knew I had him and i was right. most of these so called pro's are nothing without daddy's trust funds or their millions from other ventures. Yes, there are true pro's out there but most are losers. Gordon is a shit player all ego. I have studied these guys I know most of their moves and they are washed up. that's it

[eNd0x11]

Phil gordon looks exacly like nicolas cage lol

[xxxmicamicaxxx]

Some great players are not good teachers. Take John McEnroe at Tennis - fantastic player - but no good as a Coach because what he did just came naturally to him. Sometimes the guys who are one or two stages down from the Greats are better Coaches because, they may not be naturals, but they can analyse the game in detail and therefore teach it to others.

[MutantNinja89]

His 9's actually wasn't in bad shape against those hands. He was already in the lead preflop and there was already 3 Kings and an Ace out of the deck.

[bobjimjones]

bruce ficken buffer?!?!?!?!?

[MusclesfromB]

why wasnt there a 9 on the flop?

[laffizzle]

sounds like a nerdy nicholas cage

[fredericktatum99]

wow i feel like after reading this, im ready to cash out my life savings and go to vegas and become the best. thanks gord! And hey if i lose it all I can always jump off the the aria.

[k0rk1]

@MafiaWars23 Yeah i guess thats true, he isn't that bad. guess im a bit spoiled from watching dwan and ivey all the time ;)

[k0rk1]

funny that phil gordon explained poker, he is a pretty mediocre player. definitely not a great player. well i guess it's for extreme beginners

[MafiaWars23]

@k0rk1 Phil Gordon is mediocre for Professional Players (maybe) but hes no donk...The tactics in his book do work. I haven't had a losing session since I read it (knock on wood) I dont always play it causelike to loosen it up a bit...but He is a better player than you give him credit. Everyone is mediocre compared to Phil Ivey.

[TeddyNutsChannel]

Chris Ferguson, raise in 1st position and she things her AK is good? oi. =|

[longlivecrow]

"I've got it... I'll try and explain the gap concept... that'll put out the gay vibe I'm emitting. Maybe I shouldn't have tried to anally rape Mike Matusow last week. Actually I wouldn't technically call what I had with him 'sex'. More like, an interchange of primal moans and juices. Baby got stank. "

-Phil Gordon

[joeynovak2]

look at the lights moving around the dim lit room, soo lame haha

[frankiedetorie]

This is all real.

[km9OOO]

I'm assuming this is all staged for instructional purposes? You'd think a poker player could've done a better acting job while pretending to agonize over folding 9s on a reraise.

[hungryhippo2]

A lot of good poker players are named phil, except from Gordon, now spending all that time with the nines, as if its a monster, then making a comment after a player is all in.

[uni120]

actually have you read his books their great you should check them out jerk

[PhanatixDDH]

Uh...is this supposed to be informative? Obviously your folding the 99 here...

Gordon really isn't as good as he thinks he is.

[rocket470]

nick cage?

[SD1Chargers]

I would barf on the table if those lights were going off like that....bllllllllllleeeeeeeeee­eeearrrrrrrrrrffffffffffffffff­fff....ugh....all in

[Neto808]

Come on, Gordon... we know you can fold faster those 9's

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[krjo4215]

David Sklansky is a nit!

[ajlib]

"im gonna repeat that again" phil says. he didnt even repeat it once before. know your language phil!

also, as i can see the blinds are 3k/6k, a raise to 20k from chris isnt small at all.

[bohemia187]

All these guys are donks compared to me

- Phil hellmuth

[gaud123]

the dealer said, "Bilnds are still 3 and 6 with a thousand dollar ante". How can the players call $4000 if they want to stay in the hand??

[HiveDes]

Butch the donk

[abbyo7baby]

whats harmonys real name?  i cant find her profile anywhere

[freewill1978]

She is not a real professional player, she's an actress.

[UncleRico13]

I'd like to check out Harmony's GAP CONCEPT.

[8to1fav]

LMAO me too =)

[redondodude58]

LOL these videos are total trash. TIMMAY Don't call re-re-re-raises with 99, thanks Phil...TIMMAY!

[vegasmike111]

I think Phil Gordon is a complete idiot and a fucking loser. If I ever met him in person, I'd beat him down!

[porkinwitz]

phil is a 6 foot 9 good ol' boy from georgia. he smack you around like a little kid.

[vegasmike111]

You are now dumber for making that comment.

[orourkeda]

thats harsh

[oiyoustfuplz]

no you wouldnt

[ChemicalRussh]

Damn ...That Harmony chick is sweet looking.BTW who makes a re-raise with AKo when there's already been 2 raises before you? I would've just cold called to see what happens next.If Chris went all in like he did it would've been BYE BYE to the AKo.

[8to1fav]

I do, and it works pretty well for me. Last time a rasied a rerasie i put the guy into the tank. He asked me if he folds would i show him. He folded and showed QQ, i showed him the AK and he was on tilt for the rest of the tournament. Im not the only one Pros like Phil Hellmuth would do the same.

[ChemicalRussh]

I guess you picked the right person to do it against.Like the so-called book says the 3rd raise usually means AA or KK.You took a chance and it paid off.Even if the guy has QQ the A or the K always pops up.Against me anyway I wouldn't have tilted.....In this case Chris is the short stack and is known to be a tight player.He only makes a small raise,all the bells and sirens should of gone off.HE HAS A BIG HAND !!Harmony is an idiot.

[8to1fav]

true, its funny i was in a tourney not too long ago and i over heard some rail bird talking about AK and how he would fold it at a final table, and how its not a good hand. I was thinking ok and thats why ur on the rail and im still in. LOL

[freewill1978]

Chris did not have a lot of chips in front of him.  It's standard to put a short stack all in with AK there. And Butch was playing way, way, way too many hands to begin with so she knew he wasn't strong, but also didn't want to bring AK against 2 other hands.

[highonbetter]

Sounds like a xxx poker porno. with that 1 chick at the table talking about Gap concept. they would all like to test that concept on her i bet.should be annie duke tho.i heard she's the poker go around girl

[psikyc]

bruce buffer at 2:06

[NIN1002]

Who doesn't want to play poker with a bunch of lights spinning all around? lol. I like the roller skating rink feeling going on here. LOLOL@the lights!

[integral]

Yeah, this is just like my home game, except we have scantily clad waitresses serving us drinks and nachos.

[HiveDes]

Harmony's reraise is pretty bad

[dmb2515]

phil gordon is terrible at poker

[GuyCCyuG]

Maybe you should challenge him heads up.

[dmb2515]

my bankroll is nowhere near his but i wouldn't mind playing him heads up 5 times for a thousand so some of the luck is taken out of it

[integral]

Yeah, he's so awful he made a WSOP Main Event final table, and won a WPT title. He really sucks.

[dmb2515]

haha its funny thousands of ppl have made WSOP final tables...and WPT tournies sometimes only have a couple hundred people...he is better than amatuers but he is on the bottom for professionals...let me know when he wins a bracelet though.

[integral]

Well, a slight exaggeration there. The first WSOP Main Event was in 1970, so a max of 37 WSOP Main Event final tables. Not quite enough to hold thousands of players. He's been at several non-Main Event final tables, and there were 837 entries into the Shooting Stars WPT Tournament he won at Bay 101 in 2004. And as you know, there are many great players who haven't won a bracelet.

[dmb2515]

i said wsop final tables not main event final tables...and in past years more amateurs have been winning tournaments...everyone gets lucky once in awhile

[tiancast]

nicely explained!

[kolst8406]

This video was well done - not hokey or condescending.

I guess it's just assumed that this video is for tournaments. If he were playing in a deep stack cash game, he could call a raise and reraise with pocket nines if he and the reraising opponent had about 20 or 30 times the amount of the reraise because, if he flops a set of nines, he could bust his opponent (the reraiser.) But in tourneys, you rarely have this much left in your stack after a raise and reraise.

[tqmidget85]

In his little green book, phil suggests to call only 5 times the big blind with small or medium pocket pairs, giving about a 1 in 10 chance of catching a set on the flop. You have to assume that since there was a raise and re-raise pre-flop, like the gap concept just explained...

[tqmidget85]

you're only getting the right price to call when the raise is 5 times the big blind or smaller, regardless if its a tourny or a cash game...according to phil gordon that is. I agree with you about taking the opponenets stack size in consideration (obviously, for implied odds reasoning) but I feel I have to point out about what kind of price you are getting to call as well. (sorry, didn't let me put i all in 1 box)

[kolst8406]

Sklansky and Harrington say you and your opponent's stack sizes should be 20-30 times the initial raise for calling with small pocket pairs to be profitable. I read the little green book too and i think he's simply mistaken/incomplete in his reasoning. For instance, what if it's late in a tourney and you're short stacked - you have less than 10 big blinds? You're not going to call a 5xbb raise. hoping to flop a set. You're going to fold or reraise all in.

[kolst8406]

(continued) If you and your opponent have deep stacks you can get reraised and still be getting the right price. For instance it's a $1/$2 game and you and your opponent each have $1000 stacks and you raise for $10 and your opponent reraises to $50. You have pocket fives and your opponent has aces. If the flop comes with a five, which it does about once every 8 times, you've got the right price: $50 raise x 20 equals $1000.

[binhpac]

only if they call you when you put all your money in when u get ur set

[kolst8406]

that's why it's 20x instead of 8x - they will often fold.

[GallagherXXX]

Patrik Antonius was recently referred to by Gus Hansen as "likely the best online player in the world."

[UncleRico13]

Who is the blonde at that table? I'd like to check out her "gap" concept.

[kiwispider]

hahahahaha, That's the best comment I have ever read on youtube. "I'd like to check out her "gap" concept" hahaha.

[leginn]

I cant beleive how ungreatful people are. the pros dont have to say anything. they dont have to write books make videos give tips etc. but they do it for our benifit so shut the hell up and listen and stop whinging you peices of crap

[ivanweezer]

very well xplained. people who complain are stupid. really.

[jxwhee]

AK isn't a hand worthy of that raise. Give me the kings any day.

[joeshab123]

I don't even play poker much and that was pretty obvious...does it really need its own name? Oooohh, the Gap Concept, oohhhhh.

[ejungleska]

not obvious to more people than you think.

[simonjeste]

It also depends on the people at the table -- if you've got a medium stack and you do the re-raise preflop, you might also be exploiting your tight image you developed over the last 30 hands or whatever -- the tight player with AK might fold to your raise. :)

[Boomx2Brian]

If its that obvious you go make a poker video and see how much it sells

[oxhandsomerobxo]

You'd be very surprised how many people would call or reraise there with 99. Gordon makes a mistake at the end when he says Chris doubled up, he actually would have tripled up here because the guy behind him put in a big raise as big as his stack. I really don't see how he could have tripled up and still be so low on chips like the charts said.

[stinky472]

The gap concept is one of the most overlooked concepts in Poker. It needs a name, if only to tell the donks what to look up. It also justifies betting out of position with a medium-strength hand.

[PhanatixDDH]

Gordon needs to get more specific with the types of situations though. This situation is a pretty easy fold, because he still had players to act behind him. But the gap concept doesn't always apply, since personally I dont see much wrong with calling a raise with JT suited (depending on position) even though I might not make a raise with it.

[dieselboy87]

jt is an easily dominated hand. theres a good chance the person raising has AT KT QT OR AJ KJ OR QJ. calling a raise with jt is a donk move, and deciding to play a hand because it is suited is even more of a donk move.