David Ben-Gurion, even before he declared the creation of Israel and before the end of the Mandate, performed the largest organised ethnic cleansing in modern history, expelling the population of 220 cities and villages from their homes in Palestine: on the coastal plain, in Marj Bin Amer, and Tiberias, then expelling the people of 400 other villages thereafter.
"Jews arrived from Arab countries in buses, (sometimes planes) that had been fully paid for by the Israeli government."My dear, you should go to school again for some history classes.The State of Israel didn't have money on it's creation. Just for you to know, the Israeli Air Force at the time was a single plane from the first Great War that was used for irrigation.My mother was born in Cairo on 1940 and she was expelled from her own house by the egyptian government days after the May 14th.
"Jews arrived from Arab countries in buses, (sometimes planes) that had been fully paid for by the Israeli government."My dear, you should go to school again for some history classes.The State of Israel didn't have money on it's creation. Just for you to know, the Israeli Air Force at the time was a single plane from the first Great War that was used for irrigation.My mother was born in Cairo on 1940 and she was expelled from her own house by the egyptian government days after the May 14th.
David Ben Gurion was a Zionist thug. In his diary entry for December 19, 1947, he wrote: "In each attack, a decisive blow should be struck, resulting in the destruction of [Palestinian] homes and the expulsion of the [Palestinian] population."
Zionist Jews [from Europe and Russia] killed many 1000's of Palestinian Arabs in order to steal the Holy Land from these Arabs, who had lived in the country for many many generations.
@TheChutzpahGirl Hey, it's clear you don't know anything of what you're writing about. Do Jews are just from Europe (Russia is part of it)? What about the million Jews expelled from Arab countries after the Independence of Israel? Who declared the war after it? YES! The Pacific neighbour Arabs. Then, when Jordanians and Egyptians took West Bank and Gaza, who the heck spoke about Palestinians? NO BLOODY ONE! You're surprising ;)
The so called ‘expulsion of Jews from Arab countries’, was SUBSIDIZED MIGRATION, planned and orchestrated by none other than Israel. Jews arrived from Arab countries in buses, (sometimes planes) that had been fully paid for by the Israeli government. Guess where many of these Jews were sent to live – in the Negev! So much for brotherly love. These Jews were poor, though these days, they like to pretend otherwise.
Zionists love to pretend that Jews were expelled from Arab countries, in an attempt to justify the Zionist expulsion of Arabs from Palestine. It doesn’t wash, for the very obvious reason that you never bothered to mention this IMAGINED expulsion until folk in the West started to cotton on to the fact that you Israelis had brutally and wilfully expelled the Palestinian population from their homes; homes Palestinians had built themselves and lived in for centuries.
@TheChutzpahGirl Wrong, he wanted ALL arabs of what is now israel to stay as full israelis ( like the arab israelis), but oh, surprise, the arab countries expelled at least half of the arab population of israel. What it fucks you most is that most of that arab israelis feel israelis and are quite proud of being.
@TheChutzpahGirl That's incorrect. Gurion did in fact want all the Arabs living in Israel to become Israeli citizens. There was no "ethnic cleansing" and you have no documentation in support of that claim.
Many of the Arabs living in Israel left for places like Jordan and Lebanon just before the invasion of the State during the war of independance, so they lost out on citizenship when they tried to come back after Israel had won the war.
@SepherZion If Ben-Gurion had wanted the Palestinian Arabs to be citizens of Israel, they would have become citizens, and there would not be a refugee problem today. Nor would there be any refugee camps in Lebanon, Gaza or Jordan. Nor would there have been any further wars. Israel's warfaring destiny has been of her own choosing.
@TheChutzpahGirl "Zionists love to pretend that Jews were expelled from Arab countries, in an attempt to justify the Zionist expulsion of Arabs from Palestine." <-- you
Except that is does "wash." It's a matter of historical record and fact.
All your arguments aside, Israel has fought and won several wars to secure its independance. Every nation which exists today does so as the direct result of a war which they fought and won, Israel is no different.
@TheChutzpahGirl So would you care to shut the hell up or would you rather remain some weird self-loathing Jewish girl?
Or maybe you're not really a Jew? That's one of the luxuries of the Internet: You can claim anything you like with no need to back it up.
One thing I know: You've got about as much "Chutzpah" as my left nut, coming here to this video about the birth of a nation and trashing Jewish people and Israel with your deceitful rhetoric.
@TheChutzpahGirl OK, so let's see the documentation in support of your claim. Photographic evidence, eye-witness accounts, video, copies of orders which can be verified as accurate, etc.
You have none of that. Before you go slandering a man with accusations of "genocide" you better have the proof, and it's NOT "proof" to be found in a "Free Palestine" YouTube video.
@TheChutzpahGirl None of what you have said (or ever will say) contradicts in any way my assertion that Israel has fought for and won its independance.
You can't deny that, don't even try.
I don't care about religious arguments or "who was where first and when." I don't even care that the U.N. granted the Jews the right to proclaim the State of Israel by a vote of 33 in favor to 13 against, none of that matters anymore.
@TheChutzpahGirl Obviously you've never been to Israel and you have no idea what you're talking about, you're simply regurgitating the hateful and simplistic Internet rhetoric of the Arab world in attempt to somehow sway popular opinion against Israel more than it already is.
You should be ashamed of yourself. :\
The "Palestinians" can demand whatever they like, so long as they do so whilst holding a gun to Israel's head, they will get nothing.
@TheChutzpahGirl What you don't understand is that this is not really about "Palestine" for anyone other than a very small group of 1.5 million "Palestinians" who currently live in Gaza and the West Bank.
All most Arabs want is to destroy Israel, they care nothing about creating "Palestine."
If Syria had defeated Israel in any of the wars, do you think Syria would have created "Palestine?" No! Israel would become part of Syria and all the talk of "Palestine" would simply stop.
@TheChutzpahGirl You have been sold a lie by the Arab world, in part because you are afraid of them and of terrorism. You have let them scare you into believing falsehoods, and now in turn you, like a Zombie, come here to infect others with that same lie.
It's a joke. "Palestine" is a joke. It's not about anything like that, it's about destroying the State of Israel. They use the "suffering of the Palestinians" as propaganda, nothing more.
@TheChutzpahGirl Those refugee camps would not exist if countries like Lebanon and Jordan allowed the "Palestinians" to immigrate, but they do not. They keep them right where they are, stuck between themselves and Israel, as a political tool. The Governments of the Arab world care nothing for the "Palestinians," nothing. Iran cares nothing about them. The Arab/Muslim world only cares about destroying the State of Israel and to hell with any "Palestine."
@SepherZion Those refugee camps would not exist if the people in them had not been expelled from their homes by Israelis. If Israel does not take responsibility for past wrong doings, the country will revert to a One State Solution.
@TheChutzpahGirl You get most of your information from YouTube, by watching videos created by Arabs from all over the world which claim to be concerned with the plight of the "poor Palestinians," when in reality all they hope to accomplish is to prejudice you against the State of Israel. They use a mixture of fear and implied threats against the West, combined with images of suffering Arabs, and a whole lot of anti-Jewish hate-mongering, to brainwash you.
@TheChutzpahGirl Of course the Iranians are out in full force on the net today, and their anti-Israel chatter has increased in recent months as Israel is preparing to strike Iran's nuclear program. They are afraid of that, and so what do they do? They lash out against America, England, France (all of which support the removal of the Iranian nuclear program), Jews in general, and Israel.
They attempt to use FEAR to control your mind, and it looks to me like they have succeeded.
@TheChutzpahGirl I would urge the Israeli Parliament to petition the United States for inclusion into the union as a state. If that did not work then I would ask the British government to allow Israel join the United Kingdom as a protectorate.
If either of those two things happened I would immediately free all the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank and grant them equal protection under the law as citizens of the United States or Great Britain.
Ben-Gurion's statement to the General Staff, May 1948:
"We should prepare to go over to the offensive with the aim of smashing Lebanon, Trans-jordan and Syria... The weak point in the Arab coalition is Lebanon ... a Christian state should be established [in Lebabnon]... When we smash the Arab Legions and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan, too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria, and Cairo.
theres no ifs, ands, buts, no discussion. ben gurion was the BEST prime minister in the history of israel. i guess maybe prime minister begin is in the running but my votes cast for the founding father! I just dont get why he was so in love with the negev.... : -/
David Ben-Gurion, even before he declared the creation of Israel and before the end of the Mandate, performed the largest organised ethnic cleansing in modern history, expelling the population of 220 cities and villages from their homes in Palestine: on the coastal plain, in Marj Bin Amer, and Tiberias, then expelling the people of 400 other villages thereafter.
Ethnic clensing HAHAHAHA what a great lie. You are only saying that to cover up the fact that arabs are trying to ethnically clense the Jews out their homeland in Palestine.
@TheChutzpahGirl The largest ethnic cleansing? That's ignorant! What about the 12 million Germans expelled by the Eastern European countries after WWII? 12 millions was a lot of times the population of the Mandate of Palestine! What about the changes of population (millions) between India and Pakistan? You're such an ignorant girl!
first gods not a real estate broker,the jews have no right to exclusive rights to palestine,second,the palestinians can trace thier ancestory on that land going back 2000 years,the ancient kingdom of israel only last 414 years tops,third,studys have shown most jews ancestory comes from a turkish-mongol mix,notancient israelite,khazar empire
@ThaCypher861 Hey you animal, haven't you seen DNA studies with Jewish population from all over? The majority of them share a haplogroup originated in the middle east. Read a little bit before commenting..
In the video, the speaker says ''the establishment of Israel'' while the title says ''the independence''??? You came and declared urself!! But remember that history repeats itself and u once again will be driven out from Palestine just like your grandfathers were driven out from all parts of the world.
@jastvo Believer , know : God made all people EQUAL, and there no chosen people,while he is not a real estate agent
Unbelievers , know: IF you know your history, the only time jews lived peacefully was with muslims, and P.S : It is the Austrian , French and German who the Jews have suffered from, and not the muslims, so if that the case ,why not taking some part in europe, plenty of land there mate,so they can give you some if they'' Owe the Jews of Killing and Assimilation throughout histrory?
@3ziz93 Return? Return from what, where? There never was a Palestinian state. Review your history before you open your mouth, or else you'll make a fool of yourself, just like you did now.
@abbielayla i dont care what do u call them,tha kanaan,palestinanians,arab or even call them chinese the people who lived in yafa,hifa and the 48 lands of PALESTINE thats there land what ever u call them,and if u think i made a fool from myself,then the only one fool here is u for being a jew,we really need hitler again
@3ziz93 IDIOT no, israel does to have an state, they have to give independence to the fucking cisjordany and gaza strip, and israel must continuing existing in its actual borders, there is no palestine , palestinians descend from GREEKS and there is lot of arab states bordering israel, the only problem is that idiots like you hate democracy and freedom and tha'ts why you hate israel.
@breizhcatalonia1993 ASS HALE,maybe now its independice,but the palestians(kanaan people)had this land for thousands of years,but u had russia,ukraine,romania thousands years ago as will,so why dont u fuck off to your country and leave palestine for the pealstenians,and what kind of democracy u have,your courts are unfair and always stand next to the big-nose people,and no one in israel can say anything bad about israel,and u call that democracy?palestine will be free weather u like it or not .
mistranslation at end of his speech when he says we trust in power of Israel -he said we trust in rock (Tzur)of Israel which is reference to God and he did not say power implying people's power but help of God. God is called rock(tzur) in bible and this is word he used.
go to the jidf website and click on "take action" (top right) scroll down to see the list of videos and youtubers they have disable with false accusations about "terms of use violations" then scroll down further to see the list they post for their jewish cronies to flag and make false claims against .....its time we took action against these psychotic assholes
wwwholocaustdenialvideoscom google it and wake up.....
This was a day of glory in the history of the world, and I speak as a non-Jew. On this day it was as if the lights came back on and the dark shadow of the swastika was finally dispelled. All those who believe in the cause of human freedom and enlightenment are obliged to support the state of Israel, which upholds those values in a region where they are otherwise almost completely absent.
@xscoot Israel is forced into military action by Arab aggression. And the comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany is a complete non-starter. Jews tried desperately to leave the Third Reich, whereas Israeli Arabs are desperate to remain part of Israel, as is proved by the angry reaction of Umm el-Fahm residents to the proposal that their town be excluded from Israel.
Israel became a nation when the Jews in the region committed terrorist acts against the British to get them to leave, and then started a war with the Arabs to take their land. Hundreds of thousands were displaced or killed.
Search up Deir Yassan. It's the heartwarming story of how an Israeli group massacred civilians for no apparent reason.
@xscoot What you fail to grasp is that the Zionist cause is divinely-ordained and that the state of Israel has more legitimacy than any other state upon the face of the earth ( I speak as a non-Jew btw). The Irgun Zvai Leumi fought a heroic struggle against a British regime that was refusing to honour the Balfour Declaration. And the massacre at Deir Yassin, that hornet's nest of terrorism, was regrettable but the Arabs have far more innocent blood on their hands.
Divine right? That's not ever a good reason. It's the same reason behind Muslim terrorist bombings, and the crusades, and so much bigotry and hate in America. Divine right is just bullshit and has never been used for good.
Heroic struggle my ass. The Jews were treated poorly by the Germans, and decided to pass on the hate to the Arabs. Want the Jews to have a home? Fine. I actually encourage it. They just shouldn't steal the damn thing.
@xscoot Your ass knows very little about these things. In whose name was this territory registered? Who is or was the rightful owner and according to what criteria? I am sure that the lands your people is sitting on have been "stolen" by your forefathers at some time. I wouldn´t give a dime about your encouragement nor about your piece of advice. Read about stealing in the conquests of Islam, 632 to 732 and count the number of kilometres square. Too hard? I´ll tell you: 10 million!
@Yitzhakhazak The British mandate of Palestine created a region for Jews and a region for Muslims. The Muslims didn't want to live next to Jews and started a civil war. The Jews won and created Israel in 1948. One day after, they were attacked by 5 Islamic countries. The Jews will never have peace with Islamic countries as their neighbors. The eternal nation doesn´t fear a long yourney.
If people like you could see past their bitterness, hatred, and frankly -misconceptions, maybe the conflict wouldn't last so long.
Minority: Yes, Jews were a minority when this declaration was made - but they were a minority in the whole of the land between the Jordan and the Mediteranian. They were NOT a minority in the area that was decided by the UN to be attributed towards a Jewish State. Just like the Palestinians recieved their piece of land and we amajority there.
Nobody "stole" anything. First the Palestinians SOLD the land to European Jews and later they fought a war for it and lost it (1948-1949, and then again in '67).
No one of the two has more right over the land than the other. The palestinians made and are still making mistakes, as did and still do the Jews.
They are both to blame for what is going on there - and taking sides would get us nowhere.
@Sethphilly That comment just shows how little you know.
Read about it, I'm not taking sides, I'm giving facts. Until the '47-49' Arab Israeli war (that the Arabs initiated and eventually lost), all land was SOLD, by PALESTINIAN landowners, for a LOT of money, to European Jews, who could afford it.
Both people suffered injustices, I'm not saying otherwise.
All I'm saying is that uneducated comments, like yours for example, only lead to more hatred.
@SandyHDee part1 how did they sold their lands to Jews if at the same time they hated and were on war with those same Jews??? u know how they say WW2 had no winner will they r wrong Zionism won , they showed Jews all over the earth that they are hated by all other humans and under the slogan of never again the went and took what isn't theirs in the beginning there is a lot of Palestinian Jews who lived in Palestine for thousands of years along with the Palestinian Muslims and Christians...
@Sethphilly Not all European Jews were poor to begin with. Many had fled on the onset of hostilities in the 20's and 30's. There was, already, a sizable presence of Jews in North America, who heavily financed those purchases.
May The Lord Bless Eretz Yisrael forever and ever and ever and ever! AM YISRAEL CHAI!
Dubious777 2 weeks ago
"ben gurion" (gruen) was one of the most criminal leaders of the 20th century.
zobielamouche1 2 months ago
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David Ben-Gurion, even before he declared the creation of Israel and before the end of the Mandate, performed the largest organised ethnic cleansing in modern history, expelling the population of 220 cities and villages from their homes in Palestine: on the coastal plain, in Marj Bin Amer, and Tiberias, then expelling the people of 400 other villages thereafter.
TheChutzpahGirl 4 months ago
And she didn't get a payed bus or plane. Her family payed her way in the US.
NTNYKV 5 months ago
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"Jews arrived from Arab countries in buses, (sometimes planes) that had been fully paid for by the Israeli government."My dear, you should go to school again for some history classes.The State of Israel didn't have money on it's creation. Just for you to know, the Israeli Air Force at the time was a single plane from the first Great War that was used for irrigation.My mother was born in Cairo on 1940 and she was expelled from her own house by the egyptian government days after the May 14th.
NTNYKV 5 months ago
"Jews arrived from Arab countries in buses, (sometimes planes) that had been fully paid for by the Israeli government."My dear, you should go to school again for some history classes.The State of Israel didn't have money on it's creation. Just for you to know, the Israeli Air Force at the time was a single plane from the first Great War that was used for irrigation.My mother was born in Cairo on 1940 and she was expelled from her own house by the egyptian government days after the May 14th.
NTNYKV 5 months ago
@NTNYKV and thats the big mistake my friend. Arabs committed a crime by expelling Jews from their Countries, egypt, Iraq, Tunis etc..
addy1231 5 months ago
David Ben Gurion was a Zionist thug. In his diary entry for December 19, 1947, he wrote: "In each attack, a decisive blow should be struck, resulting in the destruction of [Palestinian] homes and the expulsion of the [Palestinian] population."
Zionist Jews [from Europe and Russia] killed many 1000's of Palestinian Arabs in order to steal the Holy Land from these Arabs, who had lived in the country for many many generations.
TheChutzpahGirl 5 months ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Hey, it's clear you don't know anything of what you're writing about. Do Jews are just from Europe (Russia is part of it)? What about the million Jews expelled from Arab countries after the Independence of Israel? Who declared the war after it? YES! The Pacific neighbour Arabs. Then, when Jordanians and Egyptians took West Bank and Gaza, who the heck spoke about Palestinians? NO BLOODY ONE! You're surprising ;)
djudeo 5 months ago
@djudeo
The so called ‘expulsion of Jews from Arab countries’, was SUBSIDIZED MIGRATION, planned and orchestrated by none other than Israel. Jews arrived from Arab countries in buses, (sometimes planes) that had been fully paid for by the Israeli government. Guess where many of these Jews were sent to live – in the Negev! So much for brotherly love. These Jews were poor, though these days, they like to pretend otherwise.
TheChutzpahGirl 5 months ago
@djudeo
Zionists love to pretend that Jews were expelled from Arab countries, in an attempt to justify the Zionist expulsion of Arabs from Palestine. It doesn’t wash, for the very obvious reason that you never bothered to mention this IMAGINED expulsion until folk in the West started to cotton on to the fact that you Israelis had brutally and wilfully expelled the Palestinian population from their homes; homes Palestinians had built themselves and lived in for centuries.
TheChutzpahGirl 5 months ago
@djudeo
Right on about the Jewish Arabs comment, my videos is about that..
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jimiydoorshamelech 4 months ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Wrong, he wanted ALL arabs of what is now israel to stay as full israelis ( like the arab israelis), but oh, surprise, the arab countries expelled at least half of the arab population of israel. What it fucks you most is that most of that arab israelis feel israelis and are quite proud of being.
breizhcatalonia1993 2 months ago
@breizhcatalonia1993 Ben-Gurion organized the ethnic cleansing of Palestine. He then became Israel's first Prime Minister.
TheChutzpahGirl 3 weeks ago
@TheChutzpahGirl That's incorrect. Gurion did in fact want all the Arabs living in Israel to become Israeli citizens. There was no "ethnic cleansing" and you have no documentation in support of that claim.
Many of the Arabs living in Israel left for places like Jordan and Lebanon just before the invasion of the State during the war of independance, so they lost out on citizenship when they tried to come back after Israel had won the war.
Too bad.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@SepherZion If Ben-Gurion had wanted the Palestinian Arabs to be citizens of Israel, they would have become citizens, and there would not be a refugee problem today. Nor would there be any refugee camps in Lebanon, Gaza or Jordan. Nor would there have been any further wars. Israel's warfaring destiny has been of her own choosing.
TheChutzpahGirl 1 week ago
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@TheChutzpahGirl "Zionists love to pretend that Jews were expelled from Arab countries, in an attempt to justify the Zionist expulsion of Arabs from Palestine." <-- you
Except that is does "wash." It's a matter of historical record and fact.
All your arguments aside, Israel has fought and won several wars to secure its independance. Every nation which exists today does so as the direct result of a war which they fought and won, Israel is no different.
Your argument is invalid, bitch. :P
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Now I know you're wanting to go off on this rant about how "war isn't nice," please spare me.
When two parties cannot agree and diplomacy fails war is often the result, and so war decides the issue.
So there was war. 5 Arab armies invaded to destroy Israel, and they lost.
They invaded again in '67 and again in '73, and lost both of those wars too.
So they lost! If Israel had lost then Israel would not now exist, but that's not the case, Israel won.
Win! :P
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl So would you care to shut the hell up or would you rather remain some weird self-loathing Jewish girl?
Or maybe you're not really a Jew? That's one of the luxuries of the Internet: You can claim anything you like with no need to back it up.
One thing I know: You've got about as much "Chutzpah" as my left nut, coming here to this video about the birth of a nation and trashing Jewish people and Israel with your deceitful rhetoric.
You're a lame ass p.o.s. :)
SepherZion 1 week ago
@SepherZion What I said about Ben-Gurion is correct. He performed the largest organised ethnic cleansing in modern history.
You need to familiarize yourself with Plan Dalet, and while you are at it, watch this video:
al-Nakba Remembered by Palestine Spring 1
TheChutzpahGirl 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl OK, so let's see the documentation in support of your claim. Photographic evidence, eye-witness accounts, video, copies of orders which can be verified as accurate, etc.
You have none of that. Before you go slandering a man with accusations of "genocide" you better have the proof, and it's NOT "proof" to be found in a "Free Palestine" YouTube video.
Come on! Stop with your lies! :(
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl None of what you have said (or ever will say) contradicts in any way my assertion that Israel has fought for and won its independance.
You can't deny that, don't even try.
I don't care about religious arguments or "who was where first and when." I don't even care that the U.N. granted the Jews the right to proclaim the State of Israel by a vote of 33 in favor to 13 against, none of that matters anymore.
Israel exists because Israel has won its freedom.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@SepherZion Israel has existed for only 65 years. That is not very long.
Israel is not secure. There is constant warfare, and no peace settlement, and refugees demanding the right to return.
White South Africa came, and White South Africa went, and the same will probably happen to Israel, because an apartheid state is not sustainable.
TheChutzpahGirl 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Obviously you've never been to Israel and you have no idea what you're talking about, you're simply regurgitating the hateful and simplistic Internet rhetoric of the Arab world in attempt to somehow sway popular opinion against Israel more than it already is.
You should be ashamed of yourself. :\
The "Palestinians" can demand whatever they like, so long as they do so whilst holding a gun to Israel's head, they will get nothing.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl What you don't understand is that this is not really about "Palestine" for anyone other than a very small group of 1.5 million "Palestinians" who currently live in Gaza and the West Bank.
All most Arabs want is to destroy Israel, they care nothing about creating "Palestine."
If Syria had defeated Israel in any of the wars, do you think Syria would have created "Palestine?" No! Israel would become part of Syria and all the talk of "Palestine" would simply stop.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl You have been sold a lie by the Arab world, in part because you are afraid of them and of terrorism. You have let them scare you into believing falsehoods, and now in turn you, like a Zombie, come here to infect others with that same lie.
It's a joke. "Palestine" is a joke. It's not about anything like that, it's about destroying the State of Israel. They use the "suffering of the Palestinians" as propaganda, nothing more.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Those refugee camps would not exist if countries like Lebanon and Jordan allowed the "Palestinians" to immigrate, but they do not. They keep them right where they are, stuck between themselves and Israel, as a political tool. The Governments of the Arab world care nothing for the "Palestinians," nothing. Iran cares nothing about them. The Arab/Muslim world only cares about destroying the State of Israel and to hell with any "Palestine."
SepherZion 1 week ago
@SepherZion Those refugee camps would not exist if the people in them had not been expelled from their homes by Israelis. If Israel does not take responsibility for past wrong doings, the country will revert to a One State Solution.
TheChutzpahGirl 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl You get most of your information from YouTube, by watching videos created by Arabs from all over the world which claim to be concerned with the plight of the "poor Palestinians," when in reality all they hope to accomplish is to prejudice you against the State of Israel. They use a mixture of fear and implied threats against the West, combined with images of suffering Arabs, and a whole lot of anti-Jewish hate-mongering, to brainwash you.
The cake is a lie!
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl Of course the Iranians are out in full force on the net today, and their anti-Israel chatter has increased in recent months as Israel is preparing to strike Iran's nuclear program. They are afraid of that, and so what do they do? They lash out against America, England, France (all of which support the removal of the Iranian nuclear program), Jews in general, and Israel.
They attempt to use FEAR to control your mind, and it looks to me like they have succeeded.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl They [Arab Muslims] have succeeded in making the average Western person afraid of them and their terrorism.
Don't let them scare you, it's all bullshit.
SepherZion 1 week ago
@SepherZion There is a point at which propaganda ceases to work. You have passed that point.
TheChutzpahGirl 1 week ago
@TheChutzpahGirl I would urge the Israeli Parliament to petition the United States for inclusion into the union as a state. If that did not work then I would ask the British government to allow Israel join the United Kingdom as a protectorate.
If either of those two things happened I would immediately free all the Palestinians from Gaza and the West Bank and grant them equal protection under the law as citizens of the United States or Great Britain.
AllTehPrettyHorses 1 week ago
Ben-Gurion's statement to the General Staff, May 1948:
"We should prepare to go over to the offensive with the aim of smashing Lebanon, Trans-jordan and Syria... The weak point in the Arab coalition is Lebanon ... a Christian state should be established [in Lebabnon]... When we smash the Arab Legions and bomb Amman, we will eliminate Transjordan, too, and then Syria will fall. If Egypt still dares to fight on, we shall bomb Port Said, Alexandria, and Cairo.
TheChutzpahGirl 6 months ago
theres no ifs, ands, buts, no discussion. ben gurion was the BEST prime minister in the history of israel. i guess maybe prime minister begin is in the running but my votes cast for the founding father! I just dont get why he was so in love with the negev.... : -/
inlovequestionmark 6 months ago
This was one of the greatest moments in Jewish history.
kljjlikjldsf 7 months ago
David Ben-Gurion, even before he declared the creation of Israel and before the end of the Mandate, performed the largest organised ethnic cleansing in modern history, expelling the population of 220 cities and villages from their homes in Palestine: on the coastal plain, in Marj Bin Amer, and Tiberias, then expelling the people of 400 other villages thereafter.
TheChutzpahGirl 7 months ago
@TheChutzpahGirl
Ethnic clensing HAHAHAHA what a great lie. You are only saying that to cover up the fact that arabs are trying to ethnically clense the Jews out their homeland in Palestine.
kljjlikjldsf 7 months ago
@TheChutzpahGirl The largest ethnic cleansing? That's ignorant! What about the 12 million Germans expelled by the Eastern European countries after WWII? 12 millions was a lot of times the population of the Mandate of Palestine! What about the changes of population (millions) between India and Pakistan? You're such an ignorant girl!
djudeo 5 months ago
first gods not a real estate broker,the jews have no right to exclusive rights to palestine,second,the palestinians can trace thier ancestory on that land going back 2000 years,the ancient kingdom of israel only last 414 years tops,third,studys have shown most jews ancestory comes from a turkish-mongol mix,notancient israelite,khazar empire
ThaCypher861 8 months ago
@ThaCypher861 Hey you animal, haven't you seen DNA studies with Jewish population from all over? The majority of them share a haplogroup originated in the middle east. Read a little bit before commenting..
djudeo 5 months ago
In the video, the speaker says ''the establishment of Israel'' while the title says ''the independence''??? You came and declared urself!! But remember that history repeats itself and u once again will be driven out from Palestine just like your grandfathers were driven out from all parts of the world.
sam3188ful 9 months ago
@sam3188ful Keep on dreaming.
abbielayla 9 months ago
@jastvo Believer , know : God made all people EQUAL, and there no chosen people,while he is not a real estate agent
Unbelievers , know: IF you know your history, the only time jews lived peacefully was with muslims, and P.S : It is the Austrian , French and German who the Jews have suffered from, and not the muslims, so if that the case ,why not taking some part in europe, plenty of land there mate,so they can give you some if they'' Owe the Jews of Killing and Assimilation throughout histrory?
Tkan3an 10 months ago
it must be called the day u stole palestine
3ziz93 10 months ago
@3ziz93 You can't steal what belongs to you dumbass
starcatcher2222 9 months ago
@starcatcher2222 haha prepare for the end of israel its so close palestine will return soon,so soon
3ziz93 9 months ago
@3ziz93 Silly silly that is a 63 year old refrain you're not going to live to see the erasure of Israel I'm afraid.
starcatcher2222 9 months ago
@3ziz93 Return? Return from what, where? There never was a Palestinian state. Review your history before you open your mouth, or else you'll make a fool of yourself, just like you did now.
abbielayla 9 months ago
@abbielayla i dont care what do u call them,tha kanaan,palestinanians,arab or even call them chinese the people who lived in yafa,hifa and the 48 lands of PALESTINE thats there land what ever u call them,and if u think i made a fool from myself,then the only one fool here is u for being a jew,we really need hitler again
3ziz93 9 months ago
@3ziz93 IDIOT no, israel does to have an state, they have to give independence to the fucking cisjordany and gaza strip, and israel must continuing existing in its actual borders, there is no palestine , palestinians descend from GREEKS and there is lot of arab states bordering israel, the only problem is that idiots like you hate democracy and freedom and tha'ts why you hate israel.
breizhcatalonia1993 6 months ago
@breizhcatalonia1993 ASS HALE,maybe now its independice,but the palestians(kanaan people)had this land for thousands of years,but u had russia,ukraine,romania thousands years ago as will,so why dont u fuck off to your country and leave palestine for the pealstenians,and what kind of democracy u have,your courts are unfair and always stand next to the big-nose people,and no one in israel can say anything bad about israel,and u call that democracy?palestine will be free weather u like it or not .
3ziz93 6 months ago
@starcatcher2222 Well said.
abbielayla 9 months ago
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maycohen100 6 months ago
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maycohen100 6 months ago
mistranslation at end of his speech when he says we trust in power of Israel -he said we trust in rock (Tzur)of Israel which is reference to God and he did not say power implying people's power but help of God. God is called rock(tzur) in bible and this is word he used.
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fuckystoat 1 year ago
This was a day of glory in the history of the world, and I speak as a non-Jew. On this day it was as if the lights came back on and the dark shadow of the swastika was finally dispelled. All those who believe in the cause of human freedom and enlightenment are obliged to support the state of Israel, which upholds those values in a region where they are otherwise almost completely absent.
atticana 1 year ago
@atticana
But Israel became a state by driving Arabs out of their homes, and now attack Arabs almost willy nilly.
The only difference between modern day Israel and nazi Germany is that Israel hasn't started a concentration camp program.
xscoot 1 year ago
@xscoot Israel is forced into military action by Arab aggression. And the comparison between Israel and Nazi Germany is a complete non-starter. Jews tried desperately to leave the Third Reich, whereas Israeli Arabs are desperate to remain part of Israel, as is proved by the angry reaction of Umm el-Fahm residents to the proposal that their town be excluded from Israel.
atticana 1 year ago
@atticana
That's actually fairly wrong.
Israel became a nation when the Jews in the region committed terrorist acts against the British to get them to leave, and then started a war with the Arabs to take their land. Hundreds of thousands were displaced or killed.
Search up Deir Yassan. It's the heartwarming story of how an Israeli group massacred civilians for no apparent reason.
xscoot 1 year ago
@xscoot What you fail to grasp is that the Zionist cause is divinely-ordained and that the state of Israel has more legitimacy than any other state upon the face of the earth ( I speak as a non-Jew btw). The Irgun Zvai Leumi fought a heroic struggle against a British regime that was refusing to honour the Balfour Declaration. And the massacre at Deir Yassin, that hornet's nest of terrorism, was regrettable but the Arabs have far more innocent blood on their hands.
atticana 1 year ago
@atticana
Divine right? That's not ever a good reason. It's the same reason behind Muslim terrorist bombings, and the crusades, and so much bigotry and hate in America. Divine right is just bullshit and has never been used for good.
Heroic struggle my ass. The Jews were treated poorly by the Germans, and decided to pass on the hate to the Arabs. Want the Jews to have a home? Fine. I actually encourage it. They just shouldn't steal the damn thing.
xscoot 1 year ago
@xscoot Your ass knows very little about these things. In whose name was this territory registered? Who is or was the rightful owner and according to what criteria? I am sure that the lands your people is sitting on have been "stolen" by your forefathers at some time. I wouldn´t give a dime about your encouragement nor about your piece of advice. Read about stealing in the conquests of Islam, 632 to 732 and count the number of kilometres square. Too hard? I´ll tell you: 10 million!
Yitzhakhazak 11 months ago
@Yitzhakhazak The British mandate of Palestine created a region for Jews and a region for Muslims. The Muslims didn't want to live next to Jews and started a civil war. The Jews won and created Israel in 1948. One day after, they were attacked by 5 Islamic countries. The Jews will never have peace with Islamic countries as their neighbors. The eternal nation doesn´t fear a long yourney.
fransjeclevers 11 months ago
@xscoot
i can think of few more differences...
yoeldg 1 year ago
@xscoot You are forgetting ...Gaza is a concentration camp.
factofile 1 year ago
@ sethphill Jebes ti mamu
konkanim 1 year ago
Thieves....
Sethphilly 1 year ago
@Sethphilly idiot....
dolphlalala 1 year ago
@Sethphilly Who and what, if you don't mind me asking, did they steal from?
SandyHDee 1 year ago
@SandyHDee
WoW , u never heard of Palestine
the Jews were a minority their about 200.000
now there is 6.000.000 and another 5.000.000 Palestinians living outside Israel
in Arab countries and some European even in the us there's about 300.000 Palestinians
Zionist leaders took advantage of the Holocaust and came up with the never again logo
to get what they wanted a long time before Hitler even reached puberty
a home land for the Jews in the promise land of Israel
Sethphilly 1 year ago
@Sethphilly
If people like you could see past their bitterness, hatred, and frankly -misconceptions, maybe the conflict wouldn't last so long.
Minority: Yes, Jews were a minority when this declaration was made - but they were a minority in the whole of the land between the Jordan and the Mediteranian. They were NOT a minority in the area that was decided by the UN to be attributed towards a Jewish State. Just like the Palestinians recieved their piece of land and we amajority there.
SandyHDee 1 year ago
@Sethphilly (part 2)
Nobody "stole" anything. First the Palestinians SOLD the land to European Jews and later they fought a war for it and lost it (1948-1949, and then again in '67).
No one of the two has more right over the land than the other. The palestinians made and are still making mistakes, as did and still do the Jews.
They are both to blame for what is going on there - and taking sides would get us nowhere.
SandyHDee 1 year ago
@SandyHDee
just like indians sold thier land to us....
Sethphilly 1 year ago
@Sethphilly That comment just shows how little you know.
Read about it, I'm not taking sides, I'm giving facts. Until the '47-49' Arab Israeli war (that the Arabs initiated and eventually lost), all land was SOLD, by PALESTINIAN landowners, for a LOT of money, to European Jews, who could afford it.
Both people suffered injustices, I'm not saying otherwise.
All I'm saying is that uneducated comments, like yours for example, only lead to more hatred.
SandyHDee 1 year ago
Sethphilly 1 year ago
@Sethphilly
part 2
but what caused the war in the first place was the relocation of millions of European Jews to a land that didn't belong to them
and declaring a country over the ruins of dismantled rightful Palestine
and if those poor European Jews really bought the land
where's the recipe
and why did the United Nations ordered the Security Council Resolution 242
Sethphilly 1 year ago
@Sethphilly Not all European Jews were poor to begin with. Many had fled on the onset of hostilities in the 20's and 30's. There was, already, a sizable presence of Jews in North America, who heavily financed those purchases.
lotwyo 1 year ago
@lotwyo
obviously you didn't understand my point
Sethphilly 1 year ago