Ian Bostridge - Great Handel

[ballbasher100]

The fact is that we english think we own handel even though he was German and wrote opera in Italian which was where his true passion lay. I "saw "Il Mondo della luna" sung in Italian by full blooded Italian singers. Different ball park. I can't even begin to listen to these so called "English Tenors" after hearing Handel sung properly by truely expressive voice. The english school have completely dominated this music/. Depressing

[thirlestanelodge2]

How DARE you tell me what I may or may not enjoy.Who ARE you?Opera Hitler?Who are you to tell me what is beautiful?

As to celebrity culture, I have no idea who Ian Bostridge is, I simply came looking for various interpretations of one aria, and found him singing it. DO NOT presume to lecture me on the demands of art, or beauty for that matter. I have been dealing with both of those areas of being, for longer than you may have drawn breath.So stick that in your oh so sensorious wind bag, Ducky

[jaketaz]

Actually I AM opera Hitler.

I'm kidding. I never told you you what you may (not) enjoy. Obviously you'll enjoy whatever you want, everyone is entitled to bad taste - some really good music and movies wouldn't exist without it. If you may presume to declare who does what "beautifully", then I may presume to declare that you're wrong. It doesn't matter if you've been "dealing with" art longer. Regardless, it hasn't been long enough to learn to spell "censorious" or to punctuate sentences, Phyllis.

[thirlestanelodge2]

@jaketaz AND, do not presume to asses my taste, though you may correct my spelling and punctuation, as being a genius, I am dyslexic .

Of course length matters, Darling, that is what to those who are in the know, is called experience, and they'll tell you , it counts.Bucket loads. Better luck in your future.

Heart Face,, not only are you Opera Hitler, (no seriously), you are a mincing pedant, and a crashing bore. No, actually, Ducky, you are. Bye now. xxxxxxx

[jaketaz]

@thirlestanelodge2

Oh I'm not presuming, I know that you have bad taste. Experience doesn't matter, Celine Dion is older than either of us and the bitch still can't sing. If I'm a "crashing bore", you're the one who returns multiple times to reply to a crashing bore. Hide behind dyslexia all you want, the red marks that underline typing mistakes in YouTube comments don't disappear for people with learning disabilities - you're just lazy, Phyllis. Maybe claim colorblindness now?

[thirlestanelodge2]

@jaketaz Ducky, I'm so sorry, not to have the time to bother with you any more to flatter your ego. Perhaps you don't understand "Bye". I think I typed that one correctly. You clearly like to "returns multiple times to reply " .

If it's any plainer for you, Darling, let me say , as it were, ( though I am far too polite to use the actuals ) two little word, one begining with,and the other ending with F. Now, let's see, if you under stand that now, or will you "returns multiple times to reply "?

[generalmike123]

my dad's second cousin!

[PatateRoussoiste]

@generalmike123 And ? I personally know my neighbor's cat. This cat belonged to the my aunt's third cousin ! And this cousin is the Ian's nephew !

[MrSwifts31]

I would object to many modern tenors attempting Handel,BUT you cannot object to the singing of Ian Bostridge.

He has above all a musical intelligence that enables him to inhabit the roles.

He however never imposes his own personality on Handels music,rather he acts as a conduit for it and breathes life and incredible feeling into it.

He is a unique artist that sings everything with amazing intergrity and conveys this to the listener.

Bravo Ian.

PS:~

Quibbling over timbre is splitting hairs

[jaketaz]

@MrSwifts31

Intelligence and good singing are different. You are speaking of everything except the actual singing. "Never imposes his own personality"... machines can reproduce music, since when is the lack of personality in singing something to be complimented? Bravo for what? Correct pitches and rhythms? That is not "integrity", that is the bare minimum. "Quibbling over timbre", please. Timbre is the sum of everything a singer does to create sound. This mincing trickster barely creates any.

[disneylandman66]

@jaketaz "Mincing trickster" is an objectionable epithet, and damages your plausibility.

[jaketaz]

@disneylandman66

mincing: adj

(of the gait, speech, behavior, etc.) affectedly dainty, nice, or elegant.

trickster: noun

1. a deceiver; cheat; fraud.

epithet: noun

1. any word or phrase applied to a person or thing to describe an actual or attributed quality

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There is nothing objectionable about choosing accurate words to describe what I'm seeing. It's easy to scold me about word choice instead of addressing my points.

[thirlestanelodge2]

@jaketazOh! I know exactly what you mean about "mincing",but he does sing this music beautifuly, Ducky.

[jaketaz]

@thirlestanelodge2

To you and disneylandman, I am saying that is not correct. You are wrong, this is barely singing and definitely not beautiful. The reason I am arguing with you is that the celebrity culture in classical music has surpassed the actual skill, and no one describes what they are seeing with any specificity or objective criteria. "He sings it beautifully" - tell me why. Not how you "feel", but what is HAPPENING. He only in tune and correct rhythmically - art demands more.

[ballbasher100]

kkk



[ballbasher100]

I agree with thirlestonelodge. A muted English tenor with no balls to the voice. The commercial machine has presented Bostridge as this Upper class intellectual waif to joe public. The truth is that his runs are hideous and muted. Typical of the cambridge school who produce these generic voices all over the place and are dominating the profession completely.

[mexmexk]

AMO Handel!!!

[amlokadion]

@mexmexk Yo tb, mal!

[hillevifan]

IMHO, the timbre of a tenor will never be equal to the timbre of a mezzo for Dopo Notte. You can't even compare his performance to...say... Lorraine Hunt's because their SO different...

[baritenor07]

@hillevifan And the timbre of a mezzo is very different from the timbre of a castrato (aka, the TRUE voice type Handel intended for this). As such, tenors have just as much right to sing this piece as mezzos and I personally think that Ian does it just as well if not better than any mezzo.