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  • Would my V6 mustang beat both cars? What would I need to do to beat these cars one day?

  • @abmeraz86 LS1 Swap...

  • LT-1 love.. i have a cam in my 96 camaro ss 6 spd, longtube headers full exhaust bigger injectors performance roller rockers double twined valve springs hardened pushrods and i pulled a 2000 ls1 camaro ss they are pretty much the same ls1 as that vette. seems right on

  • @JoseChavezSinaloa thats a c5 vette it has an ls1 not an lt1 totaly different engine and also the c5 vetttes have a transaxle the trans is bolted to the rear end and they have driveshaft tubes from the clutch to the front of the trans the craziest shit ud ever see

  • @green ta idk bout your vette being a factory freak my stock 98 ls1 trans am automatic well i say stock it had gmmg chambered set up but i ran 8.15 to 8.30s all day long in the 8/th mile with 1.6 60ft times i out ran many ls1 goats with heads cams slicks many 347 stroked foxbodys and c5s but most vettes are geared for gas mileage and top speed my c4 has 2.59 gears and its slow as dog shit at the moment so put some gears in your vette and u will feel like u have 400hp to the wheels

  • Looks like you have a good running LT1, I had one that put down almost the exact numbers you did. It all depends on the cars you race and the driver. I LOVED my LT1 TA, but I parted it out to buy a C5. My c5 is headers, high flow cats, billy boat cat back, cat back and a tune. It would destroy my LT1 car, but my vette is putting down 350-360 RWHP and is several houndred pounds lighter. But then again a heads and cam LS1 GTO could only put a car on my vette. So maybe its a factory freak?

  • c5's look so cheap

  • they are both very cool i like the vette though.

  • I'm positive that vette wasn't a z06.. that's prolly why the lt1 kept up.

  • @grafitti0807 actualy it kept up bc trans am share same tranny and engine with the corvette unlike the camaro that has the de tuned version. trans ams aint no joke a few mods nd u have a four seater vette i have a vette by the way

  • @JoseChavezSinaloa Uhh...check your facts.  The TransAm, Firebird Formula, and Camaro SS / Z28 all share the same drivetrains. The vette gets them first, then they trickle down to the Firebird/Camaro.

    The LT1 arrived in the 1992 Corvette, and GM switched to the LS1 in 1997. F-bodies got the LT1 starting in 1993, and moved to the LS1 in 1998. Its been typical for GM to drop the vette's engine into the F-body about 1 year after it shows up in the vette.

  • @wjrneo2 The Engine is the same, however everything from the bell housing back is COMPLETELY different. Torque tube, transmission, differential. Corvette is IRS.

  • @green96ta I was speaking about the engines more than the transmissions.  I know drivetrains usually refers to engine/trans that was a typo on my part, but the engines themselves are very much the same.

  • @grafitti0807 Its a Coupe as the video states. While it does seem to have the 1/4 panel vents, it has the normal rear hatch glass of the Vette Coupe. 5th generation Corvette Z06's only came in the Fixed Roof Coupe (Aka FRC).

    The vette has the vents, but other than that it has no other Z06 items. That said, there is very little difference between a LS1 and LS6. Every LS1 is just a heads/cam/intake away from making LS6 power and beyond.

  • @SVTMODDED No they don't have forged internals you have to buy'em and install them. 75 shot shouldn't hurt it as long as he doesn't over use it.

  • Damn good race

    

  • And obviously if the camaro didnt spin first the vette wouldnt have got that lead and yet the camaro still caught back up quick. What kinda cam you runnin?

  • nice clean race there, I dont know what everyones arguing about..lt1 isnt a bad motor and they have similar hp/tq numbers cuz of the cam/headers in the lt.

  • @mike510 Agreed. light to light I beat LS1 corvettes all the time with my LT1vette. The LS1 is a little quicker but only because it revs a little higher. the LT1 has more grunt off the line & if I race a driver who shifts too soon Ill beat them every time (turns out that most do). The LS1 also has a higher top end so it will always catch an LT1 but the same cannot be said for the LT4 & 5. On a side note I love the rush of acceleration from a LT1 & LS1 motor just before redline. Woooop!, bark!

  • @bronxboyXXX Hell yea, I'm not dissapointed with my lt1 camaro but I just wish it had the top end of the ls1. I don't know if I should sell it and go for an ls1 or put a lt4 cam/intake/etc. But I take my friends 5.0 with cam/heads/carbed with ease (but its a 3speed auto lol) and my other friends 97 gt 5speed and I only have a short ram intake and a cutout, I love it haha. Plus the lt sounds wayyyy better than the ls.

  • @mike510 I wouldn't worry about the top end. its not like you go past 140 that often and I'm not that sure Id want to be going 160+ in an F body. I also have a 00 TA I got when my father passed away recently and the difference is night and day in the handling department. I don't drive it much because sometimes I forget what car I'm in and fly into turns faster than the car can handle. last time I did I almost shit my pants. My advice would be to invest in the suspension 1st and then the pipes.

  • @bronxboyXXX lol yea 160+ in an F body would be an insane death wish haha but a good way to go out :) But yea I got mine lowered on some eibach sportlines with some zr1's, it handles pretty good. The thing is, is I was gonna sell it but then I couldn't pass smog, turns out my opti was bad the whole time I had it so I got it fixed but now idk what the hell to do with it. And its like the ls1 only has around 30-50rwhp more stock but its the aluminum block and non-opti setup that I like lol

  • @mike510 I figured out how to fix the Opti-spark for good. #1 you should do it yourself. #2 it must be sealed with a special aircraft sealant (i'll try to find you the name) #3 you need to put a piece of tin between the water pump spindle and the opti spark itself because what happens is when you run in the rain or if your water pump goes, any water that gets on that spindle is spun, cuts through the seal & gets in the opti spark. Block it from cutting the seal & you never need to worry again.

  • @mike510 but anyway, you're on the right track however the mane problem with the LT1 on the F body is breathing & exhaust. if you don't address that 1st your power increase will be minimal. a new cam will help you a lot but It may kill your fuel economy (hard to say) but better breathing will improve that as well as your HP& torque. but don't just get new mufflers, get better pipes. after that you may want to have the ECU reprogrammed to reline at 6100 rpm & consider forced induction.

  • @bronxboyXXX The only problem with going FI is I'd have to run low boost (5-7lbs) without forged internals and thats a boat load of money/work. But thats interesting about the optispark "cover" I was thinking about trying something like that or I read you can put a 95-97 cap on it and make it so that you can have the tube that goes through the intake but that seems like a lot of work as well. How would I make a cover for it? I have a 94.

  • @mike510 since I have a 95 I have that tube but It probably does more harm than good. You would get better results by simply drilling 2 small holes at 12 & 6 "O" clock & covering the one at 12 "O" clock with a durable fabric that breaths. Before I forget you should also protect the wire connector so putting some sealant there is a good idea. As for the covering you can use durable plastic too. you just need to protect the seal at 11 to 1 "O" clock with something that wont melt or rust.

  • @bronxboyXXX Oh aite fersho dude, thanks for the info!

  • Corvette all the way.

  • pretty sweet

  • Pretty close.. think it boiled down to gear ratio

  • Go iron block...go!!!!

  • @LT1HILLINGHOE so strong

  • just a cam and headers?

  • that dude must have been short shiftin and missing shifts in that vette.. forreal.

  • either you are full of shit or that corvette had its E brake on

  • @kkleekyger actually you are incorrect, the vette just never left 1st... ahahaha

  • @kkleekyger actually you're just a dumbass. there are plenty of cam-only LT1 setups that will shit stomp a full bolt-on LS1 car (yes, even vettes)...gm847 and cc306 LT1's cam only (untouched heads/bottom end) make in the neighborhood of 350-370 rwhp, which is more than you see bolt-on LS1 cars making.

    aside from this tard commenting about something he knows nothing about, GOOD VIDEO! and nice race

  • @cliffabrown Let me guess you drive an LT1

  • @kkleekyger yeah i do. and what do you drive, a honda?

  • @kkleekyger and by cam-only i mean stock unported heads, which is the nomenclature for LTx and LSx cars...(all supporting mods including valvesprings, pushrods, RR, exhaust, etc.)

  • way to go miss shift! but you still pulled it out

  • Not a cam and header package on the WS6 LT1!! Much More. Good race though!

  • Probably the best race I've seen on youtube. Awesome!

  • Is it just me, or was that a pretty close race?

  • what kind of cam does the camaro have? stock heads?

  • HAHA, there must have been a lot more done to that WS6 to pull on a bolt on Vette. I own Camaro with a 500RWHP LT1 and a 450RWHP 98 Vette and there is no comparison.

  • @nith0201 yea? whats done to your lt1 that made it achieve 500rwhp?

  • @nith0201 sure ya do.

  • I came across this video by chance, thats my old car. No the brake ducts are not stick-ons they were real. Almost didnt buy the car actually over that cause they were kinda permanent since they had cut holes in the fender but they used all OE shit so it was actually a nice fully functional mod. Wasnt "trying to be a ZO6" either...had one alreay. Whats gay is ZO6 fender badges on a targa top. PS that car was just as fast as my stock '02 Z06. thanks veXati0n! ...eat a bag of dicks TWIZTTID

  • jesus christ a cammed lt1 is awesome.....

  • what type of cam did the LT1 have?

  • Just thought I'd articulate that the LS1 did not debut in 1998. You're right the LS1 debuted in 1998 FOR F-Bodies, but the LS1 itself did not debut in 1998, since the first C5 was made in 1997.

  • i wanna know wut kind of engine is comeing in the new stingray style vette and its modding limits..is it a brand new engine or a throwback?

  • one problem i spotted is the title. the ws6 didn't come out until 96 when the ls1 did. they were all lt1s before that

  • @motostud08 LS1 debuted in the fbodies in 98, and the WS6 package has been around since the 70s, the name 'WS6' was just resurrected in 96.

  • @Stillremains1 well thats what i'm sayin but the ls1 came in 96.. it was even in the gs vette that year.

  • @motostud08 yeah. I got you.

    Actually the LS1 came out in a Camaro in....96??? Google Cormaro..

  • @Stillremains1 The Ls1 in the Camaro came out in 1998, the LS1 was first put in a car...the Corvette in 1997.

  • @Quatermain98526 Duh...Since you cant google it.

    *mifbody*com/

    vbulletin/showthread.php

    ?26323-The-Cormaro

    LS1 in a 97 Camaro.. Concept.

  • @Stillremains1 Because a concept car is actually sold and rolling around on the streets? I repeat, the first Camaros to have the LS1 came out in 1998. A concept car does not count.

  • @Stillremains1 yeah, i'm sure if you google "cOrmaro", you would get that, the ls1 wasnt introduced to f-bodies until 98', if it was put in the camaro in 96', then why didnt the trans am/formulas get it?

  • @SySTeM4T1c

    umm ok? Cormaro is a 96 Camaro with an LS1. thats where they got the idea to put it in the newer ones. Simple google search. jackass

  • @Stillremains1 it was only a concept car though, and on top of that, it was the fall of 1995 when the cOrmaro was debuted, it was never factory/mass produced..most people dont even know about JIMS CORMARO...technically it didnt "come out" in 1995, the ls1 "came out" in 1997 with the corvette..

  • @SySTeM4T1c No, but its a factory Camaro with an LS1. granted it is a concept. and im sure its on the streets somewhere..maybe only 20 of them...

  • @Stillremains1 i dont think anybody would be driving that, great investment car, but either way, there was only 1 made, thats why its specifically called "JIMS" cormaro, and i dont even consider it a concept car, it was made by an executive of GM, not the actual company

  • @motostud08 The Ws6 is like the Camaro SS. This is an LT1 engine, put with a few extra things under the hood, making it slightly faster than the firebird formula or camaro z28.

  • And the thing I love about Corvettes, Fake Z06, it still looks good :). In fact that's one of the future projects I want to tackle. I love the C5 coupe body frame (the most aerodynamic Corvette till this day) Put functional rear brake ducts. Fake you call it?? It'll still look just as gorgeous as any other Corvette to me. Stock vs stock, the T/A will pull the Vette lower in the MPH, the Corvette will catch up and pass in the higher end. It's a fact.

  • i hope everyone that has a comment realizes the first zo6s were rated at 385 hp. fake or not a cammed t/a would have no problems running door to door with the older z06 vette. it is what it is ppl

  • Good race,what year trans am is it,is it standard or modified ,i have a black 1997 non ws6 model with a borla exhaust.

  • good race and i notice the fake z06 too lol

  • ryanmtanner ,yes the ls1 is a better engine theres no arguing about that people fight evryday on which one is better lol but i have respect for both in different ways

    BOTH ARE AWSOME ENGINES!!!

  • ummm now people wonder why i chose the lt1 over ls1 lol...but both are great engines with equal good and bads.

  • @chrisburgin32570 The LS1 is an overall better engine buddy but both great

  • thats a fake z06, they didn't come with that style hatch

  • @TWIZTTID or he just likes the rear brake scoops and installed them. Why does everyone say this guy's a fake z06 just because he put a brake duct in? Are yellow Corvettes fake C5Rs? lol fuckin lame

  • @veXati0n It's because it's not a REAL brake duct, its just a stick on, it does absolutley nothing, about as pointless as a sticker, or those chrome stick on vents you buy from autozone. It's to look like a Z06 but not having the HP to back it up. It's like mustangs V6 pony package....just gay

  • ls1 would of won if he didnt miss 1st gear you can teal when he miss 1st but ti was a tie the vette slow dow a bit tho

  • always good to see a bird beat up on a vette...or any thing else........

  • that is one bad ass bird you have there bro props

  • damn that LT1 stayed right with the LS1!

  • Nice VETTE.

  • c5 are beautiful at every angle there just so nice

  • @americanman911 It looks like a door wedge.

  • @iplaybassandgh2 Sorry Bro.... But it's a coupe, not a z06....

  • hehe, the same, its too much Trans Am for the poor Vette.

  • Nice race, but the vette's got the legs.

  • i have a small feeling,very small,that both drivers can't race or shift!!

  • excellent!! that's the reason about I love My Trans Am...

    Well done dude!!! you rocks!!!

  • @eldetodoelpedo no dummy...his t/a is modded...not yours...you should love his t/a

  • Corvette driver sucks

  • Damn bro! Nice run! LS1s are beasts..but you can't forget that the LT1s can put down some major power.

  • Nice run. That just shows th power of an LS1 though. Imagine it had a cam also. :)

  • Yor right. A passenger really makes alot of difference. Between me and my friends WRX. When he had a passenger I won by 2 lengths. When I had a passenger he won by 1 length. We have yet to do a race with no passengers. :)

  • Good run

  • ws6 rule.

  • ops missed 5th

  • @Nathan318 shut up

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