Is Aubrey de Grey smarter than Einstein and Newton?

[neekos72]

the soulution aubrey seeks has always been known, it is not realised through science.

[curingaging00]

Aubrey is very intelligent, hands down.

But smarter then Einstein or Newton? not too sure.

[squamish4244]

Smarter than Einstein or Newton? Total B.S.  Those guys founded new areas of science, de Grey has not.

[xTemplar1]

this guy is dumber then my left testicle !

[ExtremeBogom]

Kinda pretentious.

[ashtongrist]

That wasn't a clip it was an ip

[immeemosol]

Leonardo Darwinci , really ?

[mcbrave15]

It is not a matter of who's smarter but to realize that now at days Aubrey de Grey is one of the most promising minds of our age to be at the top.

[kojelja0]

He is very smart man, and maybe he is smarter than these geniuses, its hard to say!

[maosef]

fuckin' a, how come I never get compliments like that thrown my way.

[Origen305]

Thanks for pointing this out, seee bove as I have already commented on the issue.

regqrds

[DurexDurpaneu2]

If I would win the lottery I would totaly give him 1/2$ my money for research. And even try to take part in his quest for immortality.

[mittROMNEY666]

an apt comparison

it is a tradgedy that de gray doesnt get more funding

[MindfulFuture]

Define 'intellect'. Define 'smart'. Define 'intelligent'. This is a baseless,woefully abstract comparison. I am all for Transhumanism and defeating aging, but making an illusionary measuring sticks isn't going to get us there. Focus on the work he's doing....also, Newton invented algebra before the age of 26..just sayin'..;P

[nestorlovesguitar]

@MindfulFuture >Calculus. Not algebra.

[MindfulFuture]

@nestorlovesguitar Sorry, ofcourse, duuuh ( to me.) I misspoke, thanks for calling me on that Cheers ;)

[BenNCM]

This snippet was taken from a documentary that was made about me! The cheek of the poster to appropriate my praise like this!

[Origen305]

@ThePirateGrog

Do you have a link, as I wont believe that Newland would make a positive comparison between Einstein, \newton and De Grey. For the record his 'body servicing' ideais more sceince fictiion than science fact. A great bioinformatician he may be but he's closer to LeonardoDi Caprio than he is to Da Vinci, i.e. a showman, not a genius.

[Origen305]

WHAT A LOAD OF TWADDLE, mention someone's name, then cut to academic who's talking about genius - who says he is talking about de Gray? Why the cut in mid sentence - this is one of the most misleading title I have seen on a youtube video!

[RoboDouche]

@Origen305 In the original documentary Nuland is indeed speaking about De Grey. This does nothing to change the fact that the comparison is meaningless of course, but for what it's worth he really did say it. I don't know why the person who posted the video saw fit not to include Nuland's remarks in their entirety.

[Origen305]

@RoboDouche

Well I stand corrected, and thank you for correcting me.

I hope you can see why I was somewhat dubious given the very odd editing.

I should also dislose a bias in that I think little of De Gray's work, though doubtless a genius, to place him is any position of comparison to Newton or Da Vinci - outstanding polymaths of the Western canon of thought - is to my mind wrong in so many ways that space limits me from listing them.

[Origen305]

@RoboDouche Nuland is free to hold such an opinion but I feel he should be challenged on making such a controversial claim.

Out of interest, if you have seen the entire documentary (is it viewable anywhere?), what comparators does Nuland employ to link the three thinkers?

Many thanks for bringing this to my attention and reminding me that incredulity is not always the best guide in such matters of opinion.

CARPE DIEM

Origen

[RoboDouche]

@Origen305 By the way, I say that as a supporter of De Grey's work.

[inkstersco]

@Origen305

It certainly is about de grey -- watch the full documentary if necessaty

[DenyLuu]

@Origen305 0:11 "..to find out what he thinks of AUBREY"

[hman111]

@Origen305 If you watch the full documentary he is talking about De Gray

[CalumnMcAulay]

@Origen305 this is about aubrey - i watched the docu on ending aging;  its a good watch!

[dooberry20]

@Origen305 This is a clip from the documentary 'Do you want to live forever?' He is talking about Aubrey. Go watch the documentary smartass

[michaelw2711]

if de grey wasn't investing his time then the human race would have to wait for the next person to think like de gray who experienced similar situations and opportunities to choose to do this.

[cywongdigi1984]

Who care about who is smartest? No matter how smart a person are, they also got to face death in their life? If Aubrey de Grey can give us the best solution for immortality, it is always the best solution for everyone. If Albert Einstein or Newton can contribute his own time for immortality research in 100/200 years ago, may be we will have more greatest invention now and 100 more years advance from what we have now. What do you think?

[TheSpankymonkey]

Are you mental or what? Aubrey is just a whack job. He was a computer technician at Cambridge, just IT support, nothing more.

[MrLesWhite]

I don't care if was the groundskeeper

wake me up when you obsolete or debunk his aging theory

[TheSpankymonkey]

MrLesWhite - We pretty much ignore the goon. He has issues that is for sure.

[MrLesWhite]

did you obselete or debunk his theory?

Cause you misread my comment apparently

[TheSpankymonkey]

"did you obselete or debunk his theory?" - he hasn't got a theory. Or at least not in the classic sense.

[MrLesWhite]

The entertainment value has shot up now

Ok would you like me to provide you with a definition of theory or will you use your own in your attempt to prove you were not just talking out of ur bum?

with al due respect sir

[TheSpankymonkey]

TheSpankymonkey - Come on troll, i think even you will give me the benefit of the doubt that i understand what a theory is in science. There are many "theories" that this guy rambles on about but most of them are not even defined as clear theories, apart from when you listen to his mitrochondial theory. Which, isn't really his anyway, it's just him regurgitating what everyone else who did the studying already knows or postulates. Then you have all the rest like biochemical reengineering.

[MrLesWhite]

insult plus ask for the benefit of the doubt = you don't know what you are talking about?

Wait did you even listen to the hour long lecture he has on here? Or are you relying on 60 minutes for your scientific resources??

hmmph

[TheSpankymonkey]

At best he postulates and if you call some of his ramblings like "In the future, with technology advances we can fix ourselves" a theory or indeed anything but a doddering fool getting ahead of himself then really you need to reconsider your opinion. I have yet to see him say or do anything that couldn't be repeated by the average 13 year old. Certainly nothing has been presented which is coherent as a sound scientific theory of which he is the orginal source. He doesn't even know basic biology.

[Auenaura]

It's easy to criticise somebody's idea as simple or childish, it's quite another to have the idea in the first place. Judging by the tone of your comment I suspect that you have some jealousy issues. History is about those that did, not those that could have.

[TheSpankymonkey]

"Judging by the tone of your comment I suspect that you have some jealousy issues" - then I, like the world can be thankful that you are no judge. Certainly none of any consequence. Your history comment is simply asinine to me. My critiscm de Grey is more along the line of authority, there are plenty other people far more deserving of credit in this field than de Grey. People that are actually the ones who know what they are talking about.

[Auenaura]

Damn, I really wanted one of those white wigs too. But don't relax just yet, because although I'm not an actual judge(oh yeah and also that gavel thingy), I am in a sense, a judge, at least inasmuch as I exercise my own judgment,( flawed as it may be). Asinine eh, well '...the law is an ass' after all. Personally I prefer Vulpine, but I digress.

[Auenaura]

'...there are plenty other people far more deserving of credit in this field than de Grey. '

Then let them draw attention to themselves, step up and start shouting out ideas. What's stopping them? Nobody gave Aubrey his soapbox, he just took it. He might not have a watertight overview relating to the minutiae of all his strategies, but the guy has kick-started a very exciting debate. It's a pity that Science isn't immune to the petty squabbling & backbiting of professional envy and sabotage.

[TheSpankymonkey]

"Nobody gave Aubrey his soapbox, he just took it" - My point entirely. His soapbox consists pretty much of appeals to emotion, which we all know have been employed by every charlatan throughout history. It is not a case of de Grey taking the stage whilst others have just as much opportunity, the real scientists don't have such claims, simply because there is nothing to support such wild claims. There is no envy i can assure you, i would be just as critical in any field of unsubstantiated claims.

[mobiz]

Did you ever think de Grey makes emotional appeals, because he is smart enough to know that that is the only way to get a mass audience to listen to a scientific debate. That's why in addition to his writings that appear in the science journals he wrote a populist book.

[Jotto999]

He has a Ph.D. In fact, he's probably one of the most qualified people out there to talk about aging.

[cpretartedmuch]

also one of the most believable.

[Patriol666]

well he is smart, but einstein was the smartest person ever!

[1schwererziehbar1]

if de gray is smarter than einstein and da vinci then i wonder why contrary to einstein and da vinci he has achieved close to nothing.

[oddjobmj]

@NoRomanceInChina2

Einstein also applied scientific fundamentals. This is how progression works. "On the shoulders of giants"

Aubrey, however, has yet to produce a monumental success. Although, this is what is expected so early off.

Furthermore, being smarter has nothing to do with your accomplishments. Einstein may have accomplished more, but Aubrey may be smarter. Those are two different ideals.

Either way, Aubrey is a very smart man.

[NoRomancelnChina2]

I'm saying Einstein changed the fundamentals of his science, Aubrey De Grey is applying it. You may have a different opinion, but I believe the former is genius on a totally different level. I'm not saying Einstein is the "smartest ticket", but his accomplishments are more impressive than De Grey's to me.

[NoRomancelnChina2]

Granted, he's a very smart man. But look. Einstein completely changed the way we think of space and time, something that would seem to be, well, dogma. If you really look into Einstein's accomplishments, it really is staggering. I think the same goes for the quantum physicists too like Feynman.

[ohnickoli]

Are you missing the point? We aren't going for the who is the smartest ticket. Good luck reaching a consensus on that one. Einstein changed the way we think of space and time, as de Grey is changing the way we think of aging.

[automaticAEV]

i dont think he is very smart. His presentations look like something you would see in the national enquirer. His vison is worth showing to the world and he dose that well i think however.

[Thrillcekr]

I don't think the fact that his presentations don't involve fancy graphics and stuff is in any way indicative of his intelligence. I've known some complete air heads that put together a nice slide show in Powerpoint. Often times very intelligent people prefer to abstain from using fluff because they don't need it. A case in point would be that many of the really intelligent computer gurus I know still prefer using command line in Linux rather than Windows and a GUI.

[alphador0]

Sorry kdewalt I accidentally marked your comment as spam.

[hatvbmirs]

He's a very smart guy and I think he's made a great impact and wonderful ideas. That having been said, he cannot compare to Einstein or Newton.

[kdewalt]

Thanks for posting and supporting the mission to end aging!

[ImAlwaysR1ght]

Where can we watch the whole video of this?

[SENSbulldog]

search "do you want to live forever?" on google video.