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  • i love deabte on the religion subject.

  • @UziDoesIt100 You dont understand english? I said jesus(pbuh) is not god. LOL

    Asalaam alaykoem

  • God = The Father God = The Son God = The holy-spirit... No sense: Why should the son pray to himself then because he is the father Why should the son say my father is greater then i, while he is him... Why should the son die while he is the father... Why should call someone a father or a son while he is the same person Why should the spirit come into other people, there for becoming god themself Why does early christianity teaches something difrent then the roman catolics
  • Rev 1: 4,5,8,11,12,13,17,18, Rev 22:12-20, God says, “I, am Jesus, the A and the Z, the bright morning Star, the Beginning and the Ending, God, the Lord, Jesus, the First to rise from death, to die no more, the All Powerful One who is, Jesus, and was, and Is coming again, the First and the Last, who died, who is now alive forevermore, who has the keys of hell and death, am coming soon”. He's worthy of worship. Rev 1: 5 "...Give to Him everlasting Glory and praise, for He rules forever. Amen

  • Muslims on the right

  • shabir ally is a great speaker mashalla ..all his arguments are logical and on point ..the christian debater was stating his own opinion on everything and looke cluless at some point lol ..islam wins cuz its the clear simple truth :)

  • islam is the light.

  • @sadiq5519 ISLAM IS EVIL!!! Please do not be blinded by the lies of the The Evil Quran.

  • muslim believe that only one god

    and jesus his prophet like other prophets

    and holy spirit is an angel he took an orders from the GOD to tell to the prophets

    but you(christians) made him a god in the trinity

  • i can tell you christianty started when jesus read the jews's lessons about god and for that reason the jews did not believed in jesus as a god cuse he humaan and your jesus Was crucified after Torture and humiliation and he said

    o my god my god why you leave me

  • please for all do not be Fanatic

    open your mind and think read all the bible and read it moor times

    and read quran moor times and compare the quran with bibl that if you seek the truth

  • read torah(ot) you will find the jew belive in one god

    read the (nt) bible you will find christans believe in three(jesus,father,holy sp)

    in islam muslims believe in one god

    jesus is prophet and human

  • i read the bible..now im gonna read qu'ran..i find that the bible is full of nonsense..i expect the same in qu'ran..

    ppl cant describe the mighty god..the way that they described it in bible is ridiculous,big stupidity,it make me angry when i think bout stupid ppl who believe in that..but i also find them funny..and sad,pathetic..they live in fear of life...religion is holding mankind down,wake up ppl..even if god exist,he dont care bout some small planet and small ppl there..

  • Inshallah it will agree to your logic and reasoning.

  • i see that you do not belive in god and i wonder if you hit with a car the first word you will say is (oh my god)

    why you will say that words causeit is the human Instinct  please read moor about islam you will know the truth

  • actually i do believe in god (supreme form of life who made the big bang possible),but i am not trying to described it,I am not praying,dont need to read some man written books full of nonsense..and islam is just another form of christian religion,only have tight rules and laws...and if i got hit by a car i will say "fuck that shit,if i live ill gonna kill that madafaka in there"! live life,dont be pathetic fool..peace from allah moskri

  • first christianty is not islam

    why?

    cuse christianty call to worship human(jesus) and father and holy spirit

    in islam we believe in one god

    and jesus is a proghet(ppuh) like mohamed(ppuh)

    and holy spirit is an angel his name is(gebreel)

  • aight aight,but mohamed was holding lessons about one god,and he get that lessons from christianity..that is a historical fact..that is why he moved to medina..

  • do you have brain in your scull or boding

    christianty call to worship three gods the son and the father and holy spirit do not tell islam from chirstianty

    and mohamed (puh) go to madianh cuse he was Published and calls for the religion of allah the one an the only god

  • i dont care,let them believe in anything,just like u...i just tell u,islam started when mohamed read the christians lessons about god...it sad,u dont even know how ur own religion started....i'n'i praise king sellasie!! oh yeh,jerusalim shall rise! jamaica shall rise! yeh i...btw,first monotheistic religion was founded by pharaoh Amenhotep IV (around 1351-1334 BC) in egypt...all praise the sun god,ATON-RA!! yeh i,yeh i...

  • Mohamed (puh)he did not read our write ever and that Frustrate your lies and and other pharoh gods just like christianty call to worship human like amon (father) and amot (mary) and khonso(jesus)

    they had worshiped 3 and christians are worshiping three but muslim worship only one god

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  • no i can tell you christianty started when jesus read the jews's lessons about god and for that reason the jews did not believed in jesus as a god cuse he humaan  and your jesus Was crucified after Torture and humiliation and he said

    o my god my god why you leave me

  • yeah,ok...we have confusing conversation here (or my ganja is too strong),so i dont see the point anymore.this is the end

    ..rah bless u my man,wish u very best,peace...

  • you are incorrect....Christians believe in 1 God. they believe after Christ was crucified he rose and became 1 with God. t herefore, most Christians beleive the Creator, the Savior and the Holy Spirit to be 1 ! (trinity) when I pray to God or Jesus, I am praying to 1 supreme being!

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  • You are telling to me you are worshiping on god had died and rose up(jesus,son,savior) and became 1 with an other god (father,creator)

    and the tow gods united with the third god(holy spirit)

    and you think you are worship one god sorry you do not have any mind

  • this coming from a muslim?? the holy spirit is not a god. it is the spirit of both our father and his son......like an egg has a shell, a yolk and the whites......but is still one egg! please don't try to discuss Christian beliefs when you surely don't understand them.

  • then tell me if (the three)are 1 why you tell

    father and son and holy s

    are you and your father is 1 and your father spirit is either your spirit

    and non sense

    how can you believe that ideas

  • well, what you are saying makes no sense to me so i guess if you can't even understand what you are trying to interpret, then you will never understand what I believe. I will pray for you though!

  • @cjodigo It is evident that Christians themselves do not understand their beliefs, that is why they came up with explanation which are heretical even in christianity. Trinity does not teach that the father, son and holly sprit are three parts of one God like shell, yoik and white, rather they are fully and completely God, yet there is only one God. i.e. there are 3 egss, which are fully and completely eggs, yet there is only one egg. Non sense

  • @mfkfrsh I believe in one God.There are 3 titles for Him.

    For instance, On my birth certificate I am listed as daughter(first title)

    On my marriage license, I am listed as a wife(title two) On my son's

    birth certificate I am listed as mother(title three) I am one person but have

    3 titles. Also, water is always water, but it can be present in 3 forms:

    As a gas, solid(frozen) or liquid. It is still one and the same but yet in a different

    form. I hope this helps blessings to you

  • @Exposingthetruth41. As you yourself told that you are one person have three title. We muslims have no problem with more than one title to God. In Quran some 99 names (titles) have been given to the one GOD. However, GOD still ramains one person and one being. On the other hand trinity says that there are three persons in one being.

  • @mfkfrsh The trinity is false teachings, True Christians do not believe in three Gods. I have never nor will I ever believe there is more than one true God. There are many false teachings in Christianity right now, and I do NOT support them. The trinity and the prosperity gospel are just a couple of them. Please do not paint me with the same brush as those who don't truly live according to the scriptures. Thank you for answering me kindly.

  • @Exposingthetruth41 The problem with that theory is if it is a trinity and they are three parts that make one then when Jesus(pbuh) was allegedly crucified then the father and the holy spirit died also because you can't have 1/3 of god die and the other parts live. This conception of the trinity only began after the accention of Jesus(pbuh). Jesus (pbuh) NEVER SPOKE ABOUT A TRINITY. Nor did he ever claim divinity and I challenge by Christian brethren to give us just 1 statement where he says so

  • @SlaveofAllah79 Jesus Himself gave the proove of His deity. I mean, anyone can come up and say they are god, but what is the proove? Jesus's proove to deity was that He would defeat the one thing that no mortal can defeat, which is death: this was the sole proove He gave. He said many times that He'd die and rise again; and He did, the reason when His disciple, Thomas saw Him after His resurrection, he exclaimed: My lord and my God!

  • @73geneva When did he say that he was going to die and raise again? On the contrary he said that he will not die.As far a Thomas goes he did not call Jesus (pbuh) "my lord" and "my God" he was talking about God. If I was there in that same situation I would say oh my God! Does that mean I'm talking about Jesus NO! In England there is a house of lords where everyone is addressed as "lord" does that mean they are a bunch of Gods? No! He(Jesus) said " I can of my own self do nothing" NO POWER

  • @SlaveofAllah79 How funny. Well see this: Matt 16:21. From that time forth began Jesus to show His disciples how that He must go to Jerusalem and suffer many things of the elders, and chief priests and be KILLED and BE RAISED THE THIRD DAY. Also, Matt 20:18-19, Luke 18: 31-33 etc. Look, don't let Satan deceive you, my friend. Jesus is your saviour. He talked about His death and resurrection, but your prophet comes about five centuries later to deny it.

  • @73geneva My friend Matthew, Mark, Luke and John where all written after the ascension. So you what we have in those gospels is prophecy after the fact. It is you that is deceived by Paul the self appointed 13th disciple of Jesus.

  • @SlaveofAllah79 How gullible. You deny the credibility of these Books, yet Muslims refer to them to say Jesus referred to Muhammed as the comforter that was to come. Isn't that funny? You guys hate Paul for exposing the false prophet Muhammed. Peter himself was one of Jesus's closest disciples and in 2 Pet 1:16-17 he testified that he was an eyewitness to the majesty of Jesus. What can you say about Peter? Yet your prophet comes after 500 years to deny it. Without Jesus you cant enter heaven.

  • @73geneva When did I say that the bible does not contain the word of God? The Bible contains in it 1, The words of God 2, The words of a prophet of God 3, The words of a Historian 4, Other things

    You laugh at me when it is you who claims to be a follower of Jesus, but instead of following Jesus you follow Paul. And yes Jesus (pbuh) did refer to Muhammad (pbuh) and Muhammad is the prophet mentioned

    in Deuteronomy 18:18 and I can give you irrefutable proof if you wish.

  • @SlaveofAllah79 Deut 18:18 was referring to Jesus and not your prophet, please. See what Jesus said in John 5:46. Also, John 1:45. Luke 24:44. Acts 3:22-26. Everything Moses wrote was about Jesus and not Muhammed; you can check them yourself. You talk about Paul, but I also showed you what Peter said about Jesus. Peter lived with Jesus for over three years; this is not Paul. I know the difference between Peter and Paul.

  • Christianity and Judaism was originally from the same branch. We humans are comprised of 3 things: 1. A Body 2. A Mind 3. A Soul Does that mean we are three different beings? No- but we are Three Elements of the same person Really there is One God - but He has manifested himself to humanity throughout the Scriptures as: YHVH - King of the Universe, Sovereign Lord, Spiritual Father to all Humanity Yeshua - His Son the Messiah Ruach Ha Kodesh - The Manifestation of His Power and Glory
  • I blieve in the quran 100% and i also believe in the bible if it was in his original state but 2day i blieve in some of the bible

  • LOL muslims are not gay ... anyway I could only watch about 9 min and I got all bored the dude that explains Christian God is very unconvincing. Anyway the stupid thing is that both Christians and Muslims believe in SAME GOD yet they argue about it..

  • yes muslims are gay, not the gay mem to mem issue, but the gay being happy: gay means happy :)

  • thanks it is your education it the higher level of you polite

  • "The LORD examines the righteous, but the wicked and those who love violence his soul hates." (Psalm 11:5)

    "The mouth of the righteous is a fountain of life, but violence overwhelms the mouth of the wicked. Hatred stirs up dissension, but love covers over all wrongs." (Proverbs 10, 11:12)

  • fuck John, Matt, Paul, and the rest, they are nothing but a banch of fuckers

  • they are nothing but a bunch of names and Mathew bible is not even correct as he plagiarized from Mark. Christian scholars agree.

  • Rev 1: 4,5,8,11,12,13,17,18, Rev 22:12-20, God says, “I, am Jesus, the A and the Z, the bright morning Star, the Beginning and the Ending, God, the Lord, Jesus, the First to rise from death, to die no more, the All Powerful One who is, Jesus, and was, and Is coming again, the First and the Last, who died, who is now alive forevermore, who has the keys of hell and death, am coming soon”. He's worthy of worship. Rev 1: 5 "...Give to Him everlasting Glory and praise, for He rules forever. Amen

  • @righteousseed1 Jesus said this, or Paul?

  • "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves. By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thorn bushes, or figs from thistles? Likewise every good tree bears good fruit, but a bad tree bears bad fruit. A good tree cannot bear bad fruit, and a bad tree cannot bear good fruit. Every tree that does not bear good fruit is cut down and thrown into the fire. Thus, by their fruit you will recognize them." (Matt. 7:15)

  • Mathew gospel is not valid its plagiarized and most importantly there a great level of suspicion among Scholars that he did not write it and it was Paul and christians say he used marks bible freely(now days called Plagiarism) to help inspire him(thought spirit was meant to inspire him hummmmmmmm)

  • The Qur'an also refers to many events from Jewish and Christian scriptures, some of which are retold in comparatively distinctive ways from the Bible and the Torah, while obliquely referring to other events described explicitly in those texts.

    The Qur'an itself expresses that it is the book of guidance. Therefore it rarely offers detailed accounts of historical events; the text instead typically placing emphasis on the moral significance of an event rather than its narrative sequence.

  • very good English writing

  • Islam believes the Qur'an was revealed to Muhammad by the angel Jibrīl (Gabriel) over a period of 23 years.[2][6][7]

    Muslims regard the Qur'an as the culmination of a series of divine messages that started with those revealed to Adam (regarded in Islam as the first prophet) & continued with the Suhuf-i-Ibrahim (Scrolls of Abraham),[8] the Tawrat (Torah),[9][10] the Zabur (Psalms),[11][12] & the Injeel (Gospel).[13][14][15]

    Do you understand what I'm saying. The Gospel starts with Jesus!

  • in my video my point was to show the truth to people,that we can not accept Bible as the complete Gods word,the fact that people changed and twisted Gods words in the Bible,thats was the reason why God has send his own book the glorious Quran to us as a reminder to what really hapened before,and a guidance to mankind til judgment day,He reveals the truth,now its up to you if you want to accept Gods word or a mans word,the Bible was written from hear say,and centuries after Jesus,but not Quran

  • Arabic (الْعَرَبيّة al-ʿarabiyyah or just عَرَبيْ ʿarabī), in terms of the number of speakers, is the largest living member of the Semitic language family. Classified as Central Semitic, it is closely related to Hebrew and Aramaic and has its roots in a Proto-Semitic common ancestor. In ISO 639-3, modern Arabic is classified as a macrolanguage with 27 sub-languages. These varieties are spoken throughout the Arab world & Standard Arabic is widely studied and used throughout the Islamic world.

  • So from the quick research the quarn was possibly writen in Hebrew/Aramaic language.. then transulated into Arabian.. so I guess your Quaran may have mistakes in it too.. from the different transulation..

    Muhamed possibly updated the version to included Jesus.. 'Isa.'

    Now when you go about judging be sure you have all your points summed up!

    All the worlds religion stems or is rooted from the 10 commandment.. Which is dealing with man's consciousness of God.

  • sadly we have some muslims who are not well known with that who are not educated and they make stupid mistakes like d blowing up bombs on irak,i dont count 9 11 cause specialists prooved that it was an inside job,9 or 10 of the hijackers are stil alive in irak,iran,pakistan how could that be,those personnes are going to hell cause first they made suicide and 2th they have killed other inocent people by the cause of the bomb,God doesnt like that,so they are automaticly erased from the term muslim

  • but you actually mean if i accept that what the terorist are doing is bad,but why are you refering to them with Islam,why didnt you say christianity instead of crusiders,that means you are not fimiliar with what Islam really is,ok,1th Islam doesnt permit killing exept in defence when there is really no option left,ex. a man comes to your house he wants to kill your familly for money,you have a gun next to you,what do u do....bingo you blow that criminals head off lol,and it doesnt permit suicide

  • All I can say is that there are a lot of people that have been miss-guided over the centries & I can't justify their motives or their belief systems. But that's in the past & it has not been repeated.

    However the area of 'Honour Killing' is a big thing in the Muslim Society. How can it be going on so much? Especially here in England!

    By the way, England is a Multi-faith society. Just because a person's not a Muslim doesnt mean they are Christians. This is something Muslims doent consider!

  • thats completely wrong i said already that Islam forbids killing,that honour thing is what christians invent cause in the past christians killed in honour of God,like witches,people who folowed other religions,girls who comited adultery e.t.c.,but we are discussing now about the Quran and Bible topic,we are not discussing about some stupid acts of some people and please dont use the word Islam and muslim to refer to arabs,you use the name of the personne who did that or his nationality ok

  • so now you if you wanna talk about Islam Quran christianity and the Bible lets talk in peace like resumable intelegent man,i dont want any false claims and hate comments i want resumable logical evidence and i will accept if you say something that is logical but you must also accept when i say something logical,but if you dont have the knowledge for this debate than i suggest that we dont do it,and obviosly u dont have the knowledge,but still if you're peacefull lets talk,ok shall we

  • azir11- It's amazing that you want to talk in peace now. I know it's not nice for someone to talk evil about ones belief system- I can say the Christain Crusaders made big mistakes in the way they tried to transmit the gospel. I'm not proud of that historial fact.

    I believe we have to accept our wrongs & don't repeat it.

    Do you accept the fact that Islam has done some wrongs? Own it and attempt to not repeat that mistake.

    Life is too short to carry a grudge. Let God be our guide.

  • why was i something like violint before lol so u agree about the crusiders,but i will they you what,they havve respected the bible,cause the bible says clearly to kill people for stupid resons isnt this true in the old testament,and bout Islam,Islam did only good it amazed me of looking at saudi arabia especially united emirat arab states,how they have changed from what they were,evil pagans,but after Islam now they have changed well most of them,Islam brought nothing but good you know that

  • so they hired sick people like them to say lies about Islam,muslims,and especially Muhammad peace be upon him,they only care about money they dont care about the people,their job is to blind peole and make them belive in whatever lies they are toled,in that way we the midle and poor class will argue and fight while the high class is going to the bank without any problems,these are things that only really intelegent people can understand,so thats why Islam is so missunderstood by nonmuslims

  • so bush had to make an excuse for that so what did he do he blamed Islam and muslims,and he made people to belive that the only muslims in the world are in the midle east lol thats so wrong,2th do you know who bin laden really is,he is a sia agent since 1970,he played the role of the freaking terorist,3th do you know anything of the new world order i guess not,usa is runed by sick people who want to rule the world,they have a plan,the invasion of irak,iran,avganistan and palestine,why,for money

  • now,do you know anything of the Quran exept the verses that you copy and paste from your felow youtube muslim haters,did you read the whole Quran from the start to the end,did you read the Bible from start to end,do you know the real history of the Quran how it can and all,do you know the real history of the Bible how it came when it was written and by who,i know preety much lots of this,so why are you telling me that im not qulified to say anything about the Bible,and did you saw my videos?

  • azir111- No I will not check out your video if it wants to tell me that the Bible is a Lie.

    I checked out Macedonians, based on the 2004 Cencus- the majority of the population are generally Orthodox Christians.

    Anyway, believe what you want to. However I must say the God of the Bible inspired people from various backgrounds & country to write the Bible. It is the best writen book for centries to come. No other book has so many authours that I know.

    The Quran Lends from its teachings.

  • you must watch my video i have pointed many verses from the Bible that teach to kill coldblodly for some stupid reasons,now you know that many of those who wrote the bible were evil man,like paul who was a roman killer,josephus a jew,first a military leader in israel than he went to the romans side and killed jews a traitor who has used his own companions they made suicide so that he can survive,there are others also but i forgot their names i'll have to do a research,u should wake up

  • God saved the israelians but what did they do they worshiped a cow soon after,and now what do they do they torture litle children in palestine,you israelians are the most ignorant and rebels in the eyes of God,only few of you are really good,the rest are all killers and psychos,this is the truth,God said thou shall not kill,so why do you kill people

  • azir11: you are asking the israelians' why do they kill?

    Why did the muslim society believe they do not kill?

    Just the other day a Brother Charged In Muslim Honour Killing In Canada- he killed his own sister..2008, Where is the honour in that!

    The thing about honour killing is 'wack, mad, plain stupid! So are you tell the world that your God agrees to 'honour kill?' which is aquite popular in muslim society.

    The bible says pick the beam out of ur own eyes, b4 u pick speck out of mine!

  • those are nothing but lies that is your problem with christians you go and attack blame is Islam for the act of some psychopaths that hapen to be muslims,why arent you doing the same about christians were are the most rape,pervers killing,fighting,woman abuse reports,in USA,and nonislamic countries,there is a problem with you you dont like to think logical and attack in a stupid way,why am i saying this,first the media is lying about these so called muslims cause 9 11 was an inside job

  • whitejewel10: Don't You believe God is sufficent? If He is keeping you alive, though you walk in darkness, why can't He keep some simple plant alive.

    The Trinity is God the Father, Manifested in His Son (Jesus) and the Holy Spirit.. Which are ONE Family!

    If you have a child and call his name Jr.. then He has a child. It will be the III (3rd) You will become a trillogy.. Smile! Have a great day. Nice dialoging with you.

    Hope your search for the truth will add more meaning to your life!

  • whitejewel101: I guess you have run out of intelligence & have resorted to pranks & name-calling!.. I have given you the scripture, please look into it more cleverly & learn.

    Remember there are things that surpasses human logic.

  • FUCK THE MUSLIM GOD U ASS HOLES!!! ha ha

  • stupid prick you are insulting your own God stupid ashole,wake up,9 11 was an inside job,tim osman was an cia agent since 1970,do you know who tim osman is .....bingo its bin laden,search on google see for yourself,the towers were destroyed by demolition,yes there were the planes but those buildings were designed never to fall the only thing that can destroy them was only by demolition,this is all prooven by us specialists,bush had to make an excuse for 9 11,so he used muslims and Islam

  • whitejewel101: You're contridicting yourself!

    '.. the "I am" means God in ur understanding & Allah in arabic- both...'

    The Bible:

    Gen 1:1 God created the heavens & earth. 1:2The earth was w/o shape, darkeness over the Waters- 1:3 God said, "Let there be light." And there was light! (SUN)1:4 God saw that the light was good, so God separated the light from the darkness. 1:5 God called the light "day" and the darkness "night." There was evening, and there was morning, marking the first day.

  • whitejewel101- The fact that you dispute that God created the the earth & all that lives in it, lets me know the quran doesn't have the answer for anything!!

    The quran is merely a journal written by a Mad/Crazy Man!! What's more- It's trying to topple the Bible (devinely inspired & writen Book)

    Certianly you have not read the Bible, or else you would not be so confused!

    Don't trespass against My Holy Book & I will not trash-pass yours.

  • why dont you watch my video

    "is the bible true(this will shock you)"

  • azir11: It would be stupid for a mouse to get advice from a Cat, wouldn't it be.

    Why would I go to a quran reader & espect him to tell me about the truths in the Bible?

    Wake up man!!

  • what are you talking man so i guess you think that im some terorist who live in a cave in a avgan lol thats your problem you always think that muslims are some avgan or irakians who have a gun and scream Allahuakbar like some retards lol but this is not true let me tell you who i am,my name is Azir,i lived in macedonia an ortodox country that is near greece it is stable and very modern,now for 4 years i've been living in france,so im french now,u see i am not an arab,i have gratuated in france

  • Sorry to say but the 'I am' of the Bible & Allah in Arabic does not ref to the same God! If it did then we would have the same future, prophets & expected end! 'Heaven/Hell!'

    Once the word of God *Bible* penetrates the heart of a man- il/literate, their retention of the word is un-ending. I was informed thru history that he listened attentively to the Gospels.

    If Muhammad was so illeterate why are you following his teachings.. certainly it must be flawed? And the Bible can be read by All!

  • whitejewel101: Thanx for trying to answer the questions. But I believe what you are saying is different to what I have been advised by other Muslims.

    Apparently there is NO such ONE source!

    The Torah came from the 'I am,''Yahweh' (so did the Bible)- The God of Abraham, Issac, & King David!

    Muhammed was a Bible scholar & therefore the Qur'an will be filled with Bibical truths that he still held dear.

    So he was influenced by the Torah & the Bible: but w/o the Holy Spirit he lost out!

  • "Indeed, We revealed the Torah (to Moses): wherein there was guidance and light. . . And in their footsteps We sent Jesus the son of Mary confirming the law that had come before him. We sent him the Gospel: therein was guidance and light and confirmation of the law that had come before him: a guidance and an admonition to those who fear God."

    The Holy Quran, 5:44-46

  • Muslim4Life84:

    When did you have the Torah?

    What are you saying? Are you saying that Jesus was to have brought the Muslim Message?

    Now if Muhammed was to have started the Muslim thoughts in motion, then how did the Muslims send Jesus the gospel.

    What utter non-sense!

  • God calls you to him!!!!

  • chirstmas isnt christian

    its a celebration of all religons and races

  • But when a Christian celebrates Christmas they're celebrating the birth of Christ.

  • Xyvinn: Whats the problem with celebrating Christmas?

    Symbolically I can form a celebration for my loved ones on a specific date.. Family reunion for example. From that date on everyone in my family would do the same..

    The outcome would be family members in various countries may do the same.. as the family gets bigger this event becomes a national thing & eventually worldwide!

    This is what Christmas is.. It has taken over the world from a small country to the nation!

    & Your problem?

  • I think you misunderstood me...

    All I was stating was that, even though he claims it's a Pagan religion (and it very well may be), if a Christian were celebrating Christmas they're not celebrating it as a Pagan religion.

    How did you presume that I had a problem with it from those few words?

  • Xyvinn: Sent this to you in error.. Please forgive me. It was ment for Arabianlover81!

  • Ah, no worries then :)

  • man

  • Hey, Zignosband. Man, I ain't gonna debate with you. All I am gonna say is to understand God is to know wisdom and understanding. You seriously think that God loves seeing the marvelous world that he created getting destroyed by sac religious idiots like you. I am a believer of Christ. You my friend are the devils puppet. I would like to see Christians, Muslims and Jews to build the bridges of peace. God will always love his children of the world. Love your neighbor.

  • Jesus is love.

  • Qur'an tells that it was not Jesus who crusify but others "BECAUSE OF REASONS"? It's clear to me that Qur'an was written by reasons only. Muhammad was not there during the appostle & Jesus time. How come this was written on qur'an. ?????

  • I agree both men are well versed in religion. The Muslim is a better speaker, and more logical. However the basic issue is how men can go to heaven by works, or if faith alone is needed. Christians say by Jesus only we are saved. Others think acts count for god.

  • Both men are very well educated. Both men follow the words of God and their understanding of god are phenomenon. I would never try and step up to them in the debating arena. Man, I get cleaned up. You have increase my knowledge of god. Thank you

  • 100%the muslime guys is tellin the truth..

  • Telling the truth of who accept "There's no 1-God but Allah will go to heaven? Even a muslim kills innocent people by converting to be a walking time bomb? common!

  • Just because Jesus did not say " I AM YAHWE (sp), GOD OF THE JEW FROM THE OLD TESTAMENT AND IAM NOW A MAN" does not mean he isn't. I do not take the Muslim speaker seriously. He is very biased.

  • You have one verse from Mark to disprove the doctrine of trinity? There are 100 verses that support trinity.

  • You cannot accept Jesus just as a prophet. His claims are nothing but that of a God. To take him as just a prophet is not an option.

  • chauha read peter's testimony in Acts 2:22, Jesus was no more than a prophet of God

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  • That's funny for the ignorent. 1: X-mas is not Jesus' birthday, if so where does it say that on that day, 12-25 he was born? 2: That's Nimrod's day, the birthdate of what some say is the most wicked king in history. 3: Jeremiah Ch 10 speaks of the X-mas tree saying not to do it, that's what heathens do. 4: Now that knowledge has come I pray that you change and show greater respect for the Supreme God Allah. Jesus called God Allah, so why don't you.

  • You don't know what did u say, Jesus is a jew he speaks hebrew. As far as I know there's no allah word in hebrew. "THE ONE WHO SENT BY GOD SPEAKS THE TRUTH." Muhammad qu'ran stated jews and christian are your enemies. this teaching is "HATRED". I dont belived that muhammad is the last prophet but Jesus "Yashua-" in hebrew.

  • In Hebrew there's two words for God Ellah, and Elahi, my spelling is awfull but it's to help with the pronounciation. Ellah is close to Allah and Jesus also spoke Arabic so he would say Allah. He spoke Arabic from when he grew up in Egypt and the main language in Egypt is Arabic.

  • Christmas is a pagan celebration, yes Jesus was not born o 25th of December..ask any bible scholar..:)

  • Arabn: Whats the problem with celebrating Christmas?

    Symbolically I can form a celebration for my loved ones on a specific date.. Family reunion for example. From that date on everyone in my family would do the same..

    The outcome would be family members in various countries may do the same.. as the family gets bigger this event becomes a national thing & eventually worldwide!

    This is what Christmas is.. It has taken over the world from a small country to the nation!

    & Your problem?

  • And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment.

    And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

  • GOD gave me that scripture in my vision...

    jesus came to me in spirit and worked through my body, when someone idk who asked,And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

  • Mark 12:28-31 And one of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all?

  • Can I ask, MuslimbyChoice, why you refer to Jesus as "Christ" when you do not believe he was the son of God?

  • lets all talk about who is the most real; Gandalf or Peter Pan?

  • Santa

  • Yes.

  • Don't try du educate ME on the bible! I have read it! And not just the good parts! Everything!

    Including the koran, darwins origin of spicies, dawkins, hitchens, salman rushdie and much much more!

    You didn't even answer my QUESTION?

    Hwo is is probibal that ONLY the christian/muslim god is true and that X million other gods are made up?

  • New scientists lists that there are over 330.000.000 gods in the world.

    What is MORE likely?

    1. That all gods exists?

    2. That none of the gods exists?

    If you are a religious person you will probably say that there is only 1 true god.

    But how probibal is it then that 299.999.999 gods are FALSE and yours is the ONLY true one? ;)

  • I think you mean 329,999,999, considering your statitstics aren't a load of shit. I doubt they've counted every single statue, possesion or person that has been worshipped. That estimation though is 10 fold wrong, and most are unsubstantiated. I know more that my god exists, than you know that that many people believe in that many different gods. (Considering your statistics would suggest that there is a god per 20 people which exist. Total and utter nonsense)

  • Yeah i notice later that i put 2 numbers wrong =)

    The number comes from New Scientist magasine and most of the gods are hindu gods.

    But the number is not really the POINT!

    We both know it's a huge number of diffrent gods that people belive in!

    If we have to count all those gods people used to belive in it's even BIGGER.

    So my question again: How probibal is it that X million of gods are FALSE and yours is the only true one?

  • bcuz Jesus is the only sinless person to walk the earth

    he also forfilled everything he said he was going to do and everything the old testament said he we going to do...all thats left is for his return

    he also said he is the way

    he also said he is the son of god

    he also said there r no other ways to heaven but through him

    also said proves wut he said

    and many more

  • Im talking about PROBABILITY!

    How probibal is it that 329.999.999 gods are false and Jesus/god however you belive in is the ONLY true one?

    Your answer does not PROVE anything! It's just an old book!

    Do you even KNOW what probability MEANS?

  • well of those 329,999,999 "gods" that u say..about 99.9% of them r jus random stuff ppl randomly made up bcuz they had to believe in something

    but my main point is.ive have a personal relationship with God and he speaks to me and i speak to him he answers my prayers daily.he has changed so much stuff in my life.if u could only jump n my head and see the things ive seen...but u cant..so i have kno way to prove it to u when there is kno way to prove it unless u see it for urself

  • and for that to happen...u would have to give it a try ot step out n faith..otherwise..i cant do nothing for u...all i can do is pray for u

  • There is much more evidence and logical reasoning to back up the existence of the Abrahamic God, while most others were simply some tribal folk thinking, "Hm, rain. How does that happen? There must be a God behind it!"

  • You don't need the Holy Spirit to accept Christ into your heart! But once you do accept Him then His spirit comes. His spirit is what guides us and reveals to us God's will. He manipulating what it says in the Bible

  • i hate how people say that God isnt real. i can promise you on my life that the people who say God isnt real, have NEVER tried with all your heart to find Him. AND accepting Jesus as your savior is the only way into heaven. Jesus worked MIRICLES through God because he IS God. Muhamaad couldnt raise ppl from the dead, he couldnt cure diseases, and he certainly did not rise from the dead like my savior and lord JESUS CHRIST

  • I'm done watching it. Good points made on both sides. I am happy it was a friendly debate.

  • Now if Muslims want to argue that the Bible is corrupted, then I will also argue that the Muslim teaching was also spawned by Rome and that Islamic and the Roman Catholic leaders are in bed according to many sources, one of which is the late Alberto Rivera Romero, ex jesuit priest.

  • Here it is... John 8:58, "Jesus said unto them, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am". Makes no grammatical sense. So what does it mean then and who is I AM? Exodus 3:14, "And God said unto Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I AM hath sent me unto you." ... and that is just one example.

  • Just one of many passages that states Yahshua is the Elohim, Son of the living Elohim and the same as the Father. Yahshua calls Himself the Elohim and says He was not created. So if Muslims believe about Jesus and that He was sent from the Father, they must also believe what He said, and He said He is God. For whatever reason I never see anyone quote this verse but it is my pleasure to...

  • I love it! two sides who preach invisible forces which they both cant prove exists (which doesnt!!!)enforcing the fact that there is no god and never was or will be.

  • And you can't prove God doesn't exist either. Such is the logic of many atheists who can't see their own hypocrisy and lack of logic, however logical and rational they love to fancy themselves to be.

  • Good God, longest beard I've seen in a while. God help his wife.

  • Jesus was not just a prophet. He was the word of God, who was with God from the beginning. He was incarnated as Man. And He is the Son of God. Not a 'son' in the biological sense, by which Muslims are confused with. Jesus is the Son by Holy Spirit, born to virgin Mary. He is the Messiah which was promised by God in the Old testament of Christian and Jewish Bibles.

  • jesus was a prophet, if ur too ignorant to understand that god is a spiritual bond then ur living a false hope...yes religion has helped ppl, but i think ppl shouldnt have to rely on a false hope to get by, but of course changin tradition that has been around for almost 2,000 yrs is kinda hard..

  • According to the bible, Jesus was a "begotten" son of God. according to Myriwm webster dicctionaty, To beget:

    1- to acquire especially through effort.

    2- to procreate as the father.

    So he's not a spiritual son but a procreated son.

    Muslims are not confused, I think you are confused.

  • Just out of curiosity. (By the way I was born and raised Christian and am now Atheist) Says in the description that Muslims believe in the Virgin Birth. But I heard somewhere else that Muslims believe that Jesus was a prophet but not the Son of God. Am I mistaken or...?

  • decha, your correct.

    In Islam we belive that Jesus was a prophet of God and he never claimed divinity. Just like Adam was created from no man or women intervention, Jesus was born from virgin marry peace be upon her.

  • the Word of God is Divine Life, not letters and language in scriptures! the scriptures are for teachings but the Word of God is for Living in the Divine Reality so Knowledge is complete. ain't gona study more no more.

  • Check out Zechariah 12:10. It says They will look on ME, the one they have pierced, ..The speaker is none other than YHWH and yet He speaks about HIMSELF in the future being pierced.

    Can you see this as being then God himself being pierced in the future. This can only be Jesus - the one who was pierced - crucified. YHWH was pierced for us. Jesus took on other titles that belong to YHWH - Salvation, the Alpha and the Omega and so on.

  • muslim and christian belive in one god unlike other religon like hindu they belive in idoles!

  • The koran state Jesus was born of a virgin, raised people from the dead and that he was the living word of God. I don't know about you, but if I were muslim, I would want to know what the living word of God had to say. No pun and God bless (Yaweh). Ezekiel 18 (turn and live) Yeshua is the way, the truth and the life and he loves you too.

  • Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.

  • Muhammad was a narcissist like Hitler, Saddam or Stalin. He was astute and knew how to manipulate people, but his emotional intelligence was less evolved than that of a 6-year-old child. He simply could not feel the pain of others. He brutally massacred thousands of innocent people and pillaged their wealth. His ambitions were big and as a narcissist he honestly believed he is entitled to do as he pleased and commit all sorts of crimes and his evil deeds are justified.

  • He raped the women captured in war after killing their husbands and told his followers that it is okay to have sex with their captives and their "right hand possessions" (Quran 33:50) He assassinated those who criticized him and executed them when he came to power and became de facto despot of Arabia. Muhammad was bereft of human compassion. He was an obsessed man with his dreams of grandiosity and could not forgive those who stood in his way.

  • He must not be given to lust, he must not be a sexual pervert, and he must not be a rapist, a highway robber, a war criminal, a mass murderer or an assassin. One who claims to be a messenger of God must have a superior character. He must stand above the vices of the people of his time. Yet Muhammad's life is that of a gangster godfather. He raided merchant caravans, looted innocent people, massacred entire male populations and enslaved the women and children.

  • One who claims to be a messenger of God is expected to live a saintly life.

  • 1 John 5:7

  • I suggest having Ravi Zacharias hold a forum with the muslim representive. The Christian rep appeared to be walking on egg shells, while the muslim presented his view point blank. Seems staged to me.

  • There are parts of Quran originally not written in Arabic language, but in Aramaic. In its oldest parts Quaran is christian.

    Luxenberg, Christoph:

    The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran

    Berlin: Schiler, 2007.

    ISBN 3-89930-088-2

    Hardcover, 352 p.

    "probably the most important book ever written on the Koran." (The Guardian)