also the movement of the arms and handslapping is for training pouposes. please include a mastery level video with proper motions desiminated and combat hands.
He's really not teaching the fundamentals of the kicks, jumps or spins correctly. Contemporary wushu kicks like these (these are NOT traditional wushu kicks) should not be learned for recreation or for "health". They are for competition and should be learned from a master who knows every detail of what he's doing.
I don't like how in kung they (most practitioners I've seen, even masters) swing their straight leg up, call it a kick, and actually think it would be effective. Not only does it have much less power but it cannot be used effectively to target specific parts of the body.
@gungnir2357 Uh huh no. What masters are you watching? It's not called kung fu either. That's just what westerners call it. In true wushu, straight kicks are rare (if used at all) and snap kicks are common. The "northern style kicks" that this sorry excuse for a sifu is teaching are not traditional kicks, but kicks from contemporary wushu which is much more about art. A straight leg swinging is much more visually appealing in competition.
If you have to put down another Art Form, then you're missing the point. All the Martial Arts are good. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Get good enough at anyone of the Arts and the weaknesses won't even be noticeable. As far as I can tell, this was a good performance. I have no doubt he knows what he is doing.
@mathel11 Actually this is a form of Kung Fu. It's the Northern Style Kung Fu, it's more about long range, leaping, and punch/kick combos than other forms, like, say, the Southern Kung Fu Style.
@mathel11 That's cool. When you get a bit of practice in, you ought to upload a video of yourself doing a small demo. I always love watching martial arts. Even from a beginner.
@DanielCenteno This is contemporary northern wushu and badly taught too. Traditional changquan or its ancestor Northern Shaolin does not utilize kicks like these although it is more extended, long range-oriented and kick oriented than southern styles.
They do have techniques, its not clumsy and brutal street fighting. I mean, you don't practice, which isn't a bad thing, but when ever i perform a move i've been working on foreverrrrr, and i only get a few claps, or nods of approval. I start to get agitated because many people don't understand how hard the movements were to do. And i feel like- (the same way people dont give me enough recognition[or so i feel xD]) you're not giving them enough credit.
@LOLPombaer Or even a Tae Kwon Do practicioner, in TKD technique as well as speed, power, balance, and concentration is crucial for a Tae Kwon Do fighter.
I was a bit harder on you than I needed to be. In hindsight. I think hypocrite was the wrong word. You are going through what I went through about a decade ago when I was introduced to MMA.
But I think you should realize something. You're just looking in a mirror. Those arrogant MMA guys are just a reflection of you.
Yes MMA guys can be arrogant. And disrespectful. but this is nothing new to martial arts, or unique to MMA.
The hypocrisy in this thread is staggering. You bring up the old "TMA iz better in the street argument", then condemn the "talk of MMA beating this", as you say it.
You're also pretending TMA and MMA are mutually exclusive things. They're not, as I have pointed out. You complain about your perceived "disrespect of the old ways", but only after spreading disrespect yourself.
What you don't seem to realize is respect is a two way street. I don't think you will understand.
@LOLPombaer Now stop pretending only MMA guys bash styles. Please.
You're a hypocrite. You mock "MMA people" for bashing other styles, then you bash MMA. That's the pot calling the kettle black.
Yes some MMA people do bash other styles, but that behavior isn't limited to MMA. Style bashing isn't limited to MMA people. The sad thing is a lot of martial artists in all styles are very insecure, so they end up denigrating other styles to make themselves fell better.
@LOLPombaer As a general rule, you don't hear a lot of actual MMA fighters trolling other styles. MMA isn't a martial art, it's a jujutsu-based sport in which other martial artists are allowed to participate; there are karateka, muay thai practitioners etc. Most of the trolls you find are just douchebags who wear "tapout" t-shirts and haven't been in a fight in their lives.
@shmacko78 It would make sense if you knew it's origins and had better reading comprehension skills. It originated as a jujutsu competition in Brazil. They then tried to show how BJJ was superior to other martial arts by challenging other martial arts specialists to enter their own competition, eventually calling it "mixed martial arts" because of the variety of competitors. Because the rules were made by BJJ practitioners for BJJ competition, most of the champions have been BJJ specialists.
@shmacko78 It's not really an attack to point out something that you made evident in your responses. If you knew the origins, then you wouldn't have argued with my statement that it was based in jujutsu competitions, and if you had better reading comprehension skills, you wouldn't have said "it's not a martial art it's a rule set" in response to me saying it isn't a martial art, it's a SPORT.
I look forward to your response. If only it took you less than a day to type a Youtube comment...
@shmacko78 You had time to write a post about the response you were going to come up with the following day. Why not just post it at that moment? The only logical explanation would be that it would take a day.
"You had time to write a post about the response you were going to come up with the following day. Why not just post it at that moment? The only logical explanation would be that it would take a day."
You're making a false dilemma to support your argument. Sad.
More than 2 days past in between your posts. Should I start saying it takes 2 days for you to write a post?
Stop hanging on to your petty insults. You degrade yourself when you do that.
@shmacko78 Actually, neither of them are more accurate than the other. They are different ways of phrasing the exact same thing (a jujutsu based sport = a sport based on jujutsu). If you agree with one, you agree with the other. If you argue with one, it makes no sense to agree with the other.
First you implied it was a Jiu-jitsu competition that allows other Martial Artists to compete. This is false.
The you made several other factually false statements, like when you said BJJ specialists dominate MMA. Maybe in the beginning, but you must not have payed any attention in the last decade or so.
Then you said it was based in Jiu-jitsu competitions. This was slightly more accurate.
@shmacko78 No, it was jujutsu based straight from the start. Even if I had said it was a jujutsu competition, that would have still been correct, because that is how it began. While there are people from different arts who have become champions, few of them have made it there without cross-training in jujutsu.
Dude, I agreed it was Jiu-Jitsu based. Re-read my post.
Also, you're moving the goal posts again. Cross trained fighters are not BJJ specialists. There is a distinction there I hope you will understand. And no, you are not saying the same thing with different phrasing. You are saying two different things.
On a side note, I commend you for avoiding the childish insults this time
Nothing in my original post said anything about my knowledge of the origins of mma. I know the history quite well.
Yes it did start out as a showcase for Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. But the implication that it is a jiu-jitsu based sport that allows other arts to compete is disingenuous.
You go on say most of the champions have been BJJ specialists. This is factually not true. A pure BJJ hasn't been champ in a long time.
But you're just interested in personal attacks, so I doubt you care.
@uberjim83 You don't really clear anything up by making an supported statement.
Now, clearly explain what you mean by "there is more than one type of BJJ competition", please, and how this supports your earlier statement about MMA rules being made for a BJJ comp.
Yes, there are minor rule differences between BJJ comps. For instance some comps ban leglocks.
Also, since you're trying to lecture me on BJJ, what is your experience with BJJ? Do you have any training or experience in BJJ at all?
@uberjim83 Alternately, you could at least try to prove your own point.
You've been avoid your own statements for months now. Stop being a coward.
And I know the history, and unlike you I can support my arguments with facts.
Yes, the early UFCs were organized by the Gracies. Yes it developed out of the whole "Gracie Challenge" BS. But MMA rules are not made for MMA competition.
No single BJJ competition allows striking.
Additionally, you have not told me what experience you have with BJJ
@shmacko78 The "Gracie challenge" was a BJJ competition, and it allowed striking. At any rate, my original statement (please forgive my cowardice for avoiding it, because a failure to obey all of somebody's wishes can only be explained by overwhelming fear) was that it originated as a BJJ tournament, which is what you have finally conceded today.
Unless you're about to start claiming that the Gracies weren't really BJJ practitioners.
"At any rate, my original statement was that it originated as a BJJ tournament, which is what you have finally conceded today."
I did not concede that it started as an BJJ tournament. I said the Gracies started it. Two different things, you liar.
Your original comment:
"Because the rules were made by BJJ practitioners(originally, but not any more) for BJJ competition(false), most of the champions have been BJJ specialists.(very false)"
@uberjim83 If you really understood MMA and BJJ rules, you would know that many MMA rules actually handicap a grappler.
For instance, banning kicks to the head on the ground. If this where allowed, fighters could strike more effectively form the bottom. This would make the guard much more dangerous.
Additionally, I'm still waiting for you to support your statement that " BJJ people dominate MMA".
Stop hiding from your own statements. If you say something, it's your burden to prove it.
@shmacko78 Good point, making the guard more dangerous would totally make it easier for a grappler. That makes perfect sense. If you wish for evidence that bjj people dominate MMA, all that is needed is for you to watch a few matches and see how many people won anything without having to at least cross-train in BJJ to stay competitive. Or you could look at the track record of fighters like Kimbo Slice, who did very well without rules but couldn't stay competitive in the MMA circuit.
@uberjim83@uberjim83 Your original statement was that BJJ specialists dominate MMA. Now you're altering your argument again. Stop moving the goal posts.
Cross training in BJJ does not make one a BJJ specialist.
Besides, BJJ fighters have to train other styles to remain competitive.
In anticipation for a fight with Lyoto Machida, Vitor Belfort trained Karate.
@shmacko78 Not really, because not everybody has to train in karate to be competitive in MMA, but everybody does have to train in BJJ unless they want to get choked out in every match.
"Not really, because not everybody has to train in karate to be competitive in MMA, but everybody does have to train in BJJ unless they want to get choked out in every match."
That's only because BJJ works. It's effective. But it is not as dominant as it used to be.
You missed the point entirely. To compete effectively in MMA, fighters have to be competent all ranges. But to you, just training in BJJ makes someone a "BJJ specialist".
Before we continue this argument, in the interest of clarity and focus, what do YOU consider a BJJ tournament.
Because a BJJ tournament restricts competitors to BJJ techniques. That means NO strikes.
It's like this. A boxing match is a boxing match because it restricts the fighters to Boxing. Change the rules to allow other techniques, and it is not a Boxing match.
The same thing applies to Judo, TKD, Karate, or any other rule set.
@shmacko78 Since you conceded that it was a tournament founded and initially run by and for BJJ competitors, there's no need to continue the argument. If you want to start a new one about whether BJJ includes any striking techniques, I'm not really interested. I normally try to restrict argument to matters of opinion; when one person is objectively wrong about information that is a matter of public record, a simple correction is all that is normally needed.
@uberjim83 "Since you conceded that it was a tournament founded and initially run by and for BJJ competitors, there's no need to continue the argument."
Stop re-writing my comments. I said the tournament was initially organized by the Gracies. I never said it was organized FOR BJJ. You added that.
Are you really stupid enough to lie to me about what I said? Apparently so.
I agree about one thing. There is no need to continue this argument. You're far too dishonest for this to be productive.
@uberjim83@uberjim83 Your original statement was that BJJ specialists dominate MMA. Now you're altering your argument again. Stop moving the goal posts.
Cross training in BJJ does not make one a BJJ specialist.
Besides, BJJ fighters have to train other styles to remain competitive.
In anticipation for a fight with Lyoto Machida, Vitor Belfort trained Karate.
@shmacko78 Because non-grapplers don't get into "the guard." It's a grappling technique. If the guard was more dangerous, grapplers would have a tough time using it. Non-grapplers wouldn't have to worry about it, since they don't need to use it.
"Because non-grapplers don't get into "the guard." It's a grappling technique. If the guard was more dangerous, grapplers would have a tough time using it. Non-grapplers wouldn't have to worry about it, since they don't need to use it.
Clear enough?"
Here's something you don't seem to understand. The rules prtect BOTH fighters, not just the grappler.
Allowing eye gouges and groin shots and other "banned" moves would give grapplers another advantage.
Kimbo is a bad example to use. His early fighs were bareknuckle BOXING matches. They had more restrictive rules that MMA.
When Kimbo had his first MMA fight against Sean Gannon, his corner started screaming NO KNEES during the fight after Sean Gannon started kneeing Kimbo in the head.
Kimbo went 4-2 in pro MMA, and only lost by being knocked out. One of the people who knocked out Kimbo was Seth Petruzelli, a karate black belt. Not bad for a guy with no ground game.
The biggest sign of weakness is someone who needs to appeal to a law to get out of a fight - is not this the nature of MMA? "But thats not legal" "But you have to fight me in this ring" - is this a reflection of reality? NO! Mike Tyson was a terrible fighter once you took him out of his ring - only reason he was successful was because it was BUSINESS and a SPORT - MMA is even worse because they think they are using "real martial arts"
My style of Kungfu incorporates ideas such as "getting out of fights" and running to the nearest exit, which can be dealt with in reality where you exit the building, or if you're like MMA goons, go and grab your shotgun. Unfortunately, the fact is that dealing with the one opponent in front of you in the most physically dominant manner possible, is one of the stupidest things you can aim to do in a real fight. Since other martial arts don't fight them, they get frustrated.
The problem with MMA is that they think winning prearranged fights in a ring with some other fuckwit who is bent on physical domination is a reflection of the "correct" way to go about martial arts, but in reality, Kung Fu incorporates things such as "one punch one kill" and methods that cause serious damage, which "Aren't allowed" in MMA because it doesn't GEL WITH THE FACT THAT MMA IS A SPORT AND NOT A MARTIAL ART.
My style of Kungfu incorporates ideas such as "getting out of fights" and running to the nearest exit, which can be dealt with in reality where you exit the building, or if you're like MMA goons, go and grab your shotgun. Unfortunately, the fact is that dealing with the one opponent in front of you in the most physically dominant manner possible, is one of the stupidest things you can aim to do in a real fight. Since other martial arts don't fight them, they get frustrated.
The biggest sign of weakness is someone who needs to appeal to a law to get out of a fight - is not this the nature of MMA? "But thats not legal" "But you have to fight me in this ring" - is this a reflection of reality? NO! Mike Tyson was a terrible fighter once you took him out of his ring - only reason he was successful was because it was BUSINESS and a SPORT - MMA is even worse because they think they are using "real martial arts"
@rjenman >implying that not all martial art competition has rules
And to be fair, Tyson is still WAY above average when it comes to fighting; he's just not as good as the professionals. Most people couldn't have done as well as he did.
@LOLPombaer That's most people doing mma do not have the proper formal training. If you look at the top athletes most comes with formal training back grounds but majority consists of brawlers.
If you reach the level where your high kicks are easy, one or two should be enough to take someone down. At that level low kicks should be like moving... Trapping the opponent on every step. When Shi fu showed me "tornado kick" for the first time, I laughed. A moment before that I thought I was gonna break something practicing it. xD
dude both mma and traditional martial arts are brutal and nasty and clumbsy if the practitioner has those traits. the art is a path and the practitioner shapes that path to his or her liking. how many of u guys r fighters?
Kung fu is just the name of Gong Fu in english..功夫 pronounced gong1 fu, means effort or hard work. In the western we pronounce Kung because we just can't pronounce eastern words correctly.
I just wanna make a point about martail arts in general the only way your gonna know what works is to train and test what you have learnt it is 2 completly differnt reality's from trainning in the dojo and fighting on the streets and that goes for all disciplines i dont care if its mma. mma has rule's in the ring. Street fight= no rules dojo= training. Kung fu means hard work are hard task. Not something all westeners realise but more correctly in chinese it's gung fu not kung fu.
Do you mean that fat karate guy, who thinks he's a 7th dan. That guys a joke, and a liar. Theres no way he's a 7th dan, black belt in 3 other different styles, been a bouncer for 25 years and run several different schools as well as having 40 yrs experience in isshinryu karate
I agree with what you say tho, MMA is for people who like sport fighting, but martial arts is a complete art, mind body and soul.
MMA is only better if you're a cowardly peice of trash that wants to die of a heart attack, it's nasty, clumbsy, brutish, and too concerned with sports and rushing through the ranks to even learn any techniques correctly.
Not just exercise. It's an aid to meditation also. Shaolin is a complete martial art, it focuses on the physical, metaphysical and spiritual.Many people just won't understand it, because they just want to learn to hurt others. Without religion (not necessarily Buddhism) , a lot of martial arts are hollow.
plus if you know kung fu you know that you do not turn your hand round before that second kick. the rest of his vids are full of much more serious mistakes showing that he has "learned" from videos
MMA student keep complaining about real Shaolin Kung Fu because they aren't capable of learing any kind of complicated technique. Of course this guy here in the vid is hopeless even though those kicks weren't too bad. His rest vids are awful
I dont think this is completely useless. Taking out the slaps cuts down time, adds power because you can use all of your bodily power to strike, and makes it easier to control. So in this form, its not really 100% effective, but with adjustments, it can work great.
yeah i agree, but this unless I misheard is kung fu for health, so its not meant to be 100% effective, and Chrslbrt was saying about the form, well they are katas meant to simulate a fight so you would adjust it if you were fighting, personally I think the guy in the video looks like a fairy and is probably more of a health freak than a martial artist
when are we goin to see real martial arts instead of wu shu performances . If you know the history of wushu and true gung fu systems then you know how useless it is in a real fight
Yes kung fu may be pretty useless in fights but some people like it for the sport and others for cultural interests. I wouldn't say this is completely useless though because while learning it you develop more agility,flexibility,presision and so on.
I used to be able to do those kicks. It's interesting how he sequences them together with the intermediate movements. I bought guns and got fat and lazy. I am reinspired to work out again.
In fact,there are two kinds of Kung-Fu costumes,one without belt,and the other one with belt.The one with belt is more ancient,it's descended from Hanfu(the traditional Han Chinese costume).The other one without belt is descended from the Manchurian costume.
I also studied Northern Style Kung-Fu with an old Chinese man several years ago,but I don't use those kicks,instead I use my elbows and sometimes my knees.That's not Muy Thai,because in Northern Style,we also use them to fight,but not as often as Muy Thai.
My tornado kick (from tae kwon do) is a little different. I love to see other's practice their learned art. It is a priviledge and conditions the spirit--the utlimate goal.
Isn't this just a demonstration, for health, talk about taking something wildly out of context. Most people who are dissin this guy can learn more about Chinese martial arts 'cos it's obvious you've a lot too learn, good luck!
i don't tink dat dat guy has any real skill...i tink he's just looking for fame and fortune...like many other would be fighters...of course i could be wrong..but that's my initial take on the guy
From one Kungfu expert to another, this display is weak without dynamic expression of flow combined with power. I am sure you can do more better, especially when demostrating to the public for recognizion or self glory.
it juz helps u with better footwork and balance...+ it stretches u leg so dat u can kick better and faster thats all...usefull only in long range fight...
So I've been practicing this routine every morning for the last 5 days since it was posted. I get up at 5 am and do 500 3-kick combos as he demonstrated, then 500 with the other leg. Already I'm feeling much more energetic and find myself winning a lot more street fights too. This shit really does work! Thanks ExpertVillage!
Hmm... But the whole point of Martial arts nowadays is for defence purposes. The fact that you're getting in a lot of street fights just undermines the moral ground that your training teaches, does it not?
all kungfu masters started practicing as kids. this video is somekind of basic techniques, it is not meant to be strictly copied to use in real fight. it is supposed to improve your body's strength, flexibility. Another thing you need to know is that it is too late for an adult to practice Kungfu. you can only learn some quick techniques, but can never reach a master's level.
Wing Chun is not about flashy moves- it doesn't leave contact with the ground and is always able to attack. northern styles of kung fu have more acrobatics and jumping. i imagine that a roundhouse or crescent kick will get rejected by a wing chun master- and counter attacked as the northern style loses balance. both are good for fitness but wing chun is closer to boxing and reality.
this can work in a fight,just depends on the fighter.
choyleefutkid1 2 months ago
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sanovabitz14 4 months ago
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sanovabitz14 4 months ago
this probably the only if not the very few expertvillage vids that's legit!
looker768 9 months ago
Does someone know how to kick that high? The right exersize? Is it the hamstring?
PrivateAkdeniz 11 months ago
for all the other naysayers hes teaching the proper swing methods and methods of aiming. jus there is more to it
jasonuknowit 11 months ago
also the movement of the arms and handslapping is for training pouposes. please include a mastery level video with proper motions desiminated and combat hands.
jasonuknowit 11 months ago
@Jaygenius I didn't realize that. Thanks for pointing that out. I'll have to do a bit more research before I post, I suppose. :)
DanielCenteno 1 year ago
He's really not teaching the fundamentals of the kicks, jumps or spins correctly. Contemporary wushu kicks like these (these are NOT traditional wushu kicks) should not be learned for recreation or for "health". They are for competition and should be learned from a master who knows every detail of what he's doing.
Jaygenius 1 year ago
I don't like how in kung they (most practitioners I've seen, even masters) swing their straight leg up, call it a kick, and actually think it would be effective. Not only does it have much less power but it cannot be used effectively to target specific parts of the body.
gungnir2357 1 year ago
@gungnir2357 Uh huh no. What masters are you watching? It's not called kung fu either. That's just what westerners call it. In true wushu, straight kicks are rare (if used at all) and snap kicks are common. The "northern style kicks" that this sorry excuse for a sifu is teaching are not traditional kicks, but kicks from contemporary wushu which is much more about art. A straight leg swinging is much more visually appealing in competition.
Jaygenius 1 year ago
If you have to put down another Art Form, then you're missing the point. All the Martial Arts are good. All of them have their strengths and weaknesses. Get good enough at anyone of the Arts and the weaknesses won't even be noticeable. As far as I can tell, this was a good performance. I have no doubt he knows what he is doing.
HiddenScholar 1 year ago
.... i don't think thats kung fu its to jumpy and kicky that more like taekwondo combo
mathel11 1 year ago
@mathel11 Actually this is a form of Kung Fu. It's the Northern Style Kung Fu, it's more about long range, leaping, and punch/kick combos than other forms, like, say, the Southern Kung Fu Style.
DanielCenteno 1 year ago
@DanielCenteno oh. well i practice a small amount
of southern mantis
mathel11 1 year ago
@mathel11 That's cool. When you get a bit of practice in, you ought to upload a video of yourself doing a small demo. I always love watching martial arts. Even from a beginner.
DanielCenteno 1 year ago
@DanielCenteno This is contemporary northern wushu and badly taught too. Traditional changquan or its ancestor Northern Shaolin does not utilize kicks like these although it is more extended, long range-oriented and kick oriented than southern styles.
Jaygenius 1 year ago
@mathel11 Taekwondo developed from northern chinese martial arts.
Jaygenius 1 year ago
gosh, its like these postings are "mma is better then martial arts!" "no! martial arts is better then mma" damn, people!
WintersFury01 1 year ago
@LOLPombaer actually, i disagree.
They do have techniques, its not clumsy and brutal street fighting. I mean, you don't practice, which isn't a bad thing, but when ever i perform a move i've been working on foreverrrrr, and i only get a few claps, or nods of approval. I start to get agitated because many people don't understand how hard the movements were to do. And i feel like- (the same way people dont give me enough recognition[or so i feel xD]) you're not giving them enough credit.
WintersFury01 1 year ago
@LOLPombaer Or even a Tae Kwon Do practicioner, in TKD technique as well as speed, power, balance, and concentration is crucial for a Tae Kwon Do fighter.
bluebelt224 1 year ago
@TheMartialartsJedi
I was a bit harder on you than I needed to be. In hindsight. I think hypocrite was the wrong word. You are going through what I went through about a decade ago when I was introduced to MMA.
But I think you should realize something. You're just looking in a mirror. Those arrogant MMA guys are just a reflection of you.
Yes MMA guys can be arrogant. And disrespectful. but this is nothing new to martial arts, or unique to MMA.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@TheMartialartsJedi
The hypocrisy in this thread is staggering. You bring up the old "TMA iz better in the street argument", then condemn the "talk of MMA beating this", as you say it.
You're also pretending TMA and MMA are mutually exclusive things. They're not, as I have pointed out. You complain about your perceived "disrespect of the old ways", but only after spreading disrespect yourself.
What you don't seem to realize is respect is a two way street. I don't think you will understand.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@TheMartialartsJedi The Sport vs Street debate is old and tired.
Most people who use this argument are just making assumptions. You can't name one real world example to prove your point.
shmacko78 1 year ago
You people do know MANY MMA guys started off in TMA, right?
Here's a short and incomplete list:
Chuck Liddlel - Kempo Black Belt
Karo Parysan - Judo Black Belt
Lyoto Machida - Karate Black Belt
Cung Le - Kung Fu
Anderson Silva - TKD blackbelt
Fedor Emelianenko - Judo Blackbelt
MMA and TMA are not two separate things. Let's stop pretending they are.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@LOLPombaer Now stop pretending only MMA guys bash styles. Please.
You're a hypocrite. You mock "MMA people" for bashing other styles, then you bash MMA. That's the pot calling the kettle black.
Yes some MMA people do bash other styles, but that behavior isn't limited to MMA. Style bashing isn't limited to MMA people. The sad thing is a lot of martial artists in all styles are very insecure, so they end up denigrating other styles to make themselves fell better.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@LOLPombaer As a general rule, you don't hear a lot of actual MMA fighters trolling other styles. MMA isn't a martial art, it's a jujutsu-based sport in which other martial artists are allowed to participate; there are karateka, muay thai practitioners etc. Most of the trolls you find are just douchebags who wear "tapout" t-shirts and haven't been in a fight in their lives.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83 You're probably right.
LOLPombaer 1 year ago
@uberjim83 MMA isn't a martial art. It's a rule set.
What you said about "jujutsu-based sport in which other martial artists are allowed to participate" doesn't make any sense.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 It would make sense if you knew it's origins and had better reading comprehension skills. It originated as a jujutsu competition in Brazil. They then tried to show how BJJ was superior to other martial arts by challenging other martial arts specialists to enter their own competition, eventually calling it "mixed martial arts" because of the variety of competitors. Because the rules were made by BJJ practitioners for BJJ competition, most of the champions have been BJJ specialists.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Nice. It really shows your mentality when you resort to the Ad hominem argument in your response.
I'll address your argument tomorrow. I hope you will have the maturity to tone down the hostility a little.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 It's not really an attack to point out something that you made evident in your responses. If you knew the origins, then you wouldn't have argued with my statement that it was based in jujutsu competitions, and if you had better reading comprehension skills, you wouldn't have said "it's not a martial art it's a rule set" in response to me saying it isn't a martial art, it's a SPORT.
I look forward to your response. If only it took you less than a day to type a Youtube comment...
uberjim83 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"I look forward to your response. If only it took you less than a day to type a Youtube comment..."
Again with the backhanded comments. You're so hostile.
I have a job and a life. Posting to youtube isn't a big priority.
Regardless it's sad you have to use an Ad hominem again by implying it takes me all day to write a post.
Sad.
As for the rest of your accusations, I will address them in individual posts.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
I have a life outside of youtube. Sorry I don't spend every second arguing on the internet.
It is sad you need to resort to the Ad hominem again. I'm referring to you're implication that I take a day to write a post.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 You had time to write a post about the response you were going to come up with the following day. Why not just post it at that moment? The only logical explanation would be that it would take a day.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
"You had time to write a post about the response you were going to come up with the following day. Why not just post it at that moment? The only logical explanation would be that it would take a day."
You're making a false dilemma to support your argument. Sad.
More than 2 days past in between your posts. Should I start saying it takes 2 days for you to write a post?
Stop hanging on to your petty insults. You degrade yourself when you do that.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
I like how you're altering your argument.
First you said MMA is "a jujutsu-based sport in which other martial artists are allowed to participate".
Then you change it to MMA "was based in jujutsu competitions", which is more accurate.
Then you challenge my reading skills after re-writing your statement.
You've created a straw man for your own argument. It's basically a reverse straw man argument.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Actually, neither of them are more accurate than the other. They are different ways of phrasing the exact same thing (a jujutsu based sport = a sport based on jujutsu). If you agree with one, you agree with the other. If you argue with one, it makes no sense to agree with the other.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Umm, no. You said two different things.
First you implied it was a Jiu-jitsu competition that allows other Martial Artists to compete. This is false.
The you made several other factually false statements, like when you said BJJ specialists dominate MMA. Maybe in the beginning, but you must not have payed any attention in the last decade or so.
Then you said it was based in Jiu-jitsu competitions. This was slightly more accurate.
And you're questioning my reading comprehension?
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 No, it was jujutsu based straight from the start. Even if I had said it was a jujutsu competition, that would have still been correct, because that is how it began. While there are people from different arts who have become champions, few of them have made it there without cross-training in jujutsu.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Dude, I agreed it was Jiu-Jitsu based. Re-read my post.
Also, you're moving the goal posts again. Cross trained fighters are not BJJ specialists. There is a distinction there I hope you will understand. And no, you are not saying the same thing with different phrasing. You are saying two different things.
On a side note, I commend you for avoiding the childish insults this time
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Nothing in my original post said anything about my knowledge of the origins of mma. I know the history quite well.
Yes it did start out as a showcase for Gracie Jiu-Jitsu. But the implication that it is a jiu-jitsu based sport that allows other arts to compete is disingenuous.
You go on say most of the champions have been BJJ specialists. This is factually not true. A pure BJJ hasn't been champ in a long time.
But you're just interested in personal attacks, so I doubt you care.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 If by "disingenuous" you mean "an accurate description," then we are in complete accord.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
"Because the rules were made by BJJ practitioners for BJJ competition, most of the champions have been BJJ specialists."
This is really where you went wrong.
BJJ competitions have a completely different rule set than MMA. Therefore the rules cannot "be made for BJJ competition."
Currently, the rules are made by the New Jersey Athletic Control Board.
Also, most of the champions have not been BJJ specialists. Especially in the last decade.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Oh, I see where the misunderstanding is coming from. You see, there is more than one type of BJJ competition. Glad to clear that up.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83 You don't really clear anything up by making an supported statement.
Now, clearly explain what you mean by "there is more than one type of BJJ competition", please, and how this supports your earlier statement about MMA rules being made for a BJJ comp.
Yes, there are minor rule differences between BJJ comps. For instance some comps ban leglocks.
Also, since you're trying to lecture me on BJJ, what is your experience with BJJ? Do you have any training or experience in BJJ at all?
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 supported should have been unsupported. Typo.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Alternately, you could just look up MMA's origins and this whole argument would have been averted.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83 Alternately, you could at least try to prove your own point.
You've been avoid your own statements for months now. Stop being a coward.
And I know the history, and unlike you I can support my arguments with facts.
Yes, the early UFCs were organized by the Gracies. Yes it developed out of the whole "Gracie Challenge" BS. But MMA rules are not made for MMA competition.
No single BJJ competition allows striking.
Additionally, you have not told me what experience you have with BJJ
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 The "Gracie challenge" was a BJJ competition, and it allowed striking. At any rate, my original statement (please forgive my cowardice for avoiding it, because a failure to obey all of somebody's wishes can only be explained by overwhelming fear) was that it originated as a BJJ tournament, which is what you have finally conceded today.
Unless you're about to start claiming that the Gracies weren't really BJJ practitioners.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
@uberjim83
"The "Gracie challenge" was a BJJ competition, and it allowed striking. "
Wrong.
There were a variety of different rules sets in the Gracie Challenge. Some were grappling only. Some were MMA.
Some of the challenges were even "No Rules" fights in the streets, where I'm sure you think BJJ is supposed to never work.
shmacko78 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"The "Gracie challenge" was a BJJ competition, and it allowed striking. "
Wrong.
There were a variety of different rules sets in the Gracie Challenge. Some were grappling only. Some were MMA.
Some of the challenges were even "No Rules" fights in the streets, where I'm sure you think BJJ is supposed to never work.
shmacko78 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"At any rate, my original statement...was that it originated as a BJJ tournament, which is what you have finally conceded today."
I never said it started as a a BJJ tournament. I said the Gracies organized the first ones. That does not make it a BJJ tournament.
You're such a liar.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
"At any rate, my original statement was that it originated as a BJJ tournament, which is what you have finally conceded today."
I did not concede that it started as an BJJ tournament. I said the Gracies started it. Two different things, you liar.
Your original comment:
"Because the rules were made by BJJ practitioners(originally, but not any more) for BJJ competition(false), most of the champions have been BJJ specialists.(very false)"
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83 If you really understood MMA and BJJ rules, you would know that many MMA rules actually handicap a grappler.
For instance, banning kicks to the head on the ground. If this where allowed, fighters could strike more effectively form the bottom. This would make the guard much more dangerous.
Additionally, I'm still waiting for you to support your statement that " BJJ people dominate MMA".
Stop hiding from your own statements. If you say something, it's your burden to prove it.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Good point, making the guard more dangerous would totally make it easier for a grappler. That makes perfect sense. If you wish for evidence that bjj people dominate MMA, all that is needed is for you to watch a few matches and see how many people won anything without having to at least cross-train in BJJ to stay competitive. Or you could look at the track record of fighters like Kimbo Slice, who did very well without rules but couldn't stay competitive in the MMA circuit.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83 @uberjim83 Your original statement was that BJJ specialists dominate MMA. Now you're altering your argument again. Stop moving the goal posts.
Cross training in BJJ does not make one a BJJ specialist.
Besides, BJJ fighters have to train other styles to remain competitive.
In anticipation for a fight with Lyoto Machida, Vitor Belfort trained Karate.
So by your logic karate dominates too.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Not really, because not everybody has to train in karate to be competitive in MMA, but everybody does have to train in BJJ unless they want to get choked out in every match.
uberjim83 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"Not really, because not everybody has to train in karate to be competitive in MMA, but everybody does have to train in BJJ unless they want to get choked out in every match."
That's only because BJJ works. It's effective. But it is not as dominant as it used to be.
You missed the point entirely. To compete effectively in MMA, fighters have to be competent all ranges. But to you, just training in BJJ makes someone a "BJJ specialist".
shmacko78 1 year ago
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shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Before we continue this argument, in the interest of clarity and focus, what do YOU consider a BJJ tournament.
Because a BJJ tournament restricts competitors to BJJ techniques. That means NO strikes.
It's like this. A boxing match is a boxing match because it restricts the fighters to Boxing. Change the rules to allow other techniques, and it is not a Boxing match.
The same thing applies to Judo, TKD, Karate, or any other rule set.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Since you conceded that it was a tournament founded and initially run by and for BJJ competitors, there's no need to continue the argument. If you want to start a new one about whether BJJ includes any striking techniques, I'm not really interested. I normally try to restrict argument to matters of opinion; when one person is objectively wrong about information that is a matter of public record, a simple correction is all that is normally needed.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83 "Since you conceded that it was a tournament founded and initially run by and for BJJ competitors, there's no need to continue the argument."
Stop re-writing my comments. I said the tournament was initially organized by the Gracies. I never said it was organized FOR BJJ. You added that.
Are you really stupid enough to lie to me about what I said? Apparently so.
I agree about one thing. There is no need to continue this argument. You're far too dishonest for this to be productive.
shmacko78 1 year ago
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@uberjim83 @uberjim83 Your original statement was that BJJ specialists dominate MMA. Now you're altering your argument again. Stop moving the goal posts.
Cross training in BJJ does not make one a BJJ specialist.
Besides, BJJ fighters have to train other styles to remain competitive.
In anticipation for a fight with Lyoto Machida, Vitor Belfort trained Karate.
So by your logic karate dominates too.
shmacko78 1 year ago
uberjim83 said "Good point, making the guard more dangerous would totally make it easier for a grappler. That makes perfect sense. "
Ah. sarcasm. Maybe you should, y'know, explain why you think I'm wrong.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 Because non-grapplers don't get into "the guard." It's a grappling technique. If the guard was more dangerous, grapplers would have a tough time using it. Non-grapplers wouldn't have to worry about it, since they don't need to use it.
Clear enough?
uberjim83 1 year ago
@uberjim83
"Because non-grapplers don't get into "the guard." It's a grappling technique. If the guard was more dangerous, grapplers would have a tough time using it. Non-grapplers wouldn't have to worry about it, since they don't need to use it.
Clear enough?"
Here's something you don't seem to understand. The rules prtect BOTH fighters, not just the grappler.
Allowing eye gouges and groin shots and other "banned" moves would give grapplers another advantage.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Kimbo is a bad example to use. His early fighs were bareknuckle BOXING matches. They had more restrictive rules that MMA.
When Kimbo had his first MMA fight against Sean Gannon, his corner started screaming NO KNEES during the fight after Sean Gannon started kneeing Kimbo in the head.
Kimbo went 4-2 in pro MMA, and only lost by being knocked out. One of the people who knocked out Kimbo was Seth Petruzelli, a karate black belt. Not bad for a guy with no ground game.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@shmacko78 No ground game? Karate's not his only art.. he's also a longtime practitioner of, you guessed it, BJJ.
uberjim83 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"No ground game? Karate's not his only art.. he's also a longtime practitioner of, you guessed it, BJJ."
I was talking about Kimbo, who is not a longtime practitioner of BJJ.
But I'm sure you only think Kimbo lost was because of the "rules".
shmacko78 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"No ground game? Karate's not his only art.. he's also a longtime practitioner of, you guessed it, BJJ."
I was talking about Kimbo, who is not a longtime practitioner of BJJ.
But I'm sure you only think Kimbo lost was because of the "rules".
shmacko78 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"No ground game? Karate's not his only art.. he's also a longtime practitioner of, you guessed it, BJJ."
I was talking about Kimbo, who is not a longtime practitioner of BJJ.
But I'm sure you only think Kimbo lost was because of the "rules".
shmacko78 1 year ago
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@uberjim83
"No ground game? Karate's not his only art.. he's also a longtime practitioner of, you guessed it, BJJ."
I was talking about Kimbo, who is not a longtime practitioner of BJJ.
But I'm sure you only think Kimbo lost was because of the "rules".
shmacko78 1 year ago
@uberjim83
Let's play ball. What specific rule prevented Kimbo from being competitive?
shmacko78 1 year ago
you meen jump snap kick?
spawnfreak61 1 year ago
you can tell this guy has a huge ego, wearing that fucking robe lmao. and your so fucking slow, even a 13 year old, can knock you down lol.
88pie88 1 year ago
@88pie88 Hey, don't be mad just because you can't pull off a silk robe. I'd wear that shit all the time if I could get away with it lol
uberjim83 1 year ago
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@rjenman
The biggest sign of weakness is someone who needs to appeal to a law to get out of a fight - is not this the nature of MMA? "But thats not legal" "But you have to fight me in this ring" - is this a reflection of reality? NO! Mike Tyson was a terrible fighter once you took him out of his ring - only reason he was successful was because it was BUSINESS and a SPORT - MMA is even worse because they think they are using "real martial arts"
rjenman 1 year ago
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@rjenman
My style of Kungfu incorporates ideas such as "getting out of fights" and running to the nearest exit, which can be dealt with in reality where you exit the building, or if you're like MMA goons, go and grab your shotgun. Unfortunately, the fact is that dealing with the one opponent in front of you in the most physically dominant manner possible, is one of the stupidest things you can aim to do in a real fight. Since other martial arts don't fight them, they get frustrated.
rjenman 1 year ago
The problem with MMA is that they think winning prearranged fights in a ring with some other fuckwit who is bent on physical domination is a reflection of the "correct" way to go about martial arts, but in reality, Kung Fu incorporates things such as "one punch one kill" and methods that cause serious damage, which "Aren't allowed" in MMA because it doesn't GEL WITH THE FACT THAT MMA IS A SPORT AND NOT A MARTIAL ART.
rjenman 1 year ago
@rjenman
My style of Kungfu incorporates ideas such as "getting out of fights" and running to the nearest exit, which can be dealt with in reality where you exit the building, or if you're like MMA goons, go and grab your shotgun. Unfortunately, the fact is that dealing with the one opponent in front of you in the most physically dominant manner possible, is one of the stupidest things you can aim to do in a real fight. Since other martial arts don't fight them, they get frustrated.
rjenman 1 year ago
@rjenman
The biggest sign of weakness is someone who needs to appeal to a law to get out of a fight - is not this the nature of MMA? "But thats not legal" "But you have to fight me in this ring" - is this a reflection of reality? NO! Mike Tyson was a terrible fighter once you took him out of his ring - only reason he was successful was because it was BUSINESS and a SPORT - MMA is even worse because they think they are using "real martial arts"
rjenman 1 year ago
@rjenman
MMA doesn't deal with multiple opponents!
rjenman 1 year ago
@rjenman >implying that not all martial art competition has rules
And to be fair, Tyson is still WAY above average when it comes to fighting; he's just not as good as the professionals. Most people couldn't have done as well as he did.
uberjim83 1 year ago
@LOLPombaer
Let's all agree MMA is 3 seconds of martial arts then several minutes of really awkward grabbing.
Amatugold 1 year ago
FUCK MMA
1980theone 1 year ago
This guy shouldn't call him self a sifu.
fzeeshan 1 year ago 2
@fzeeshan This is the danger of YT; the ideal chance of moonlighters to upload their fake stuff.
FearThisChannel 1 year ago
@LOLPombaer That's most people doing mma do not have the proper formal training. If you look at the top athletes most comes with formal training back grounds but majority consists of brawlers.
fzeeshan 1 year ago
hy i can do better than this :P . anyway thanx
DNRG41222 1 year ago
tornado kick, i though it was soo difficult, but now i can do it,
SeriousSam505 2 years ago 2
Oh, this is contemporary wushu. Well, this is the SHOW part of kung fu (wushu), not the fighting part. e.g, sanshou
dafuki 2 years ago
@dafuki EXACTLY
Jaygenius 1 year ago
wow not to good but better that a lot of over confident people who go to school for it.
IS this guy Canadian?
Namriu94 2 years ago
Did he not say "Kung fu for health"?
Also if you can kick high with speed, low kicks with speed are easier.
mumbleora 2 years ago
@mumbleora
If you reach the level where your high kicks are easy, one or two should be enough to take someone down. At that level low kicks should be like moving... Trapping the opponent on every step. When Shi fu showed me "tornado kick" for the first time, I laughed. A moment before that I thought I was gonna break something practicing it. xD
miki5xD 2 years ago
No he said "Kung fu from hell". LOL just kidding, your right.
magestays 1 year ago
hitting that high isn't very useful. You don't fight with a 2 meters high guy everyday.
Infographiste 2 years ago
What about short people with short legs?
TheAsian1234 2 years ago
Interesting, but these people just shouldn't get involved in a fight
Infographiste 2 years ago
yeah, the fat guy who thinks he's 7th dan
in isshin ryu is a joke. so are the white
"sifus".
bigkittysmile 2 years ago
dude both mma and traditional martial arts are brutal and nasty and clumbsy if the practitioner has those traits. the art is a path and the practitioner shapes that path to his or her liking. how many of u guys r fighters?
Karilieable 2 years ago 6
i agree ..well with the person shapping it to his liking part
2awsome12 2 years ago
As some one who parcticed MA(not MMA for u dimwits) for a long time, I can say this dude is absolutely right.
dafuki 2 years ago
@Karilieable This is one of the most objective responses I've seen here.
As for your question, I did karate and judo matches when I was a young man. I have 2 amateur MMA fight from 5 years ago.
shmacko78 1 year ago
@Karilieable I'm not a fighter as I am a martial artist. I train to defend, not to attack first and come out on top like an MMA fighter.
bluebelt224 1 year ago
Kung fu is more of a western interpatation of gung fu than a oriental interpatation.
lococavasa 2 years ago 2
Kung fu is just the name of Gong Fu in english..功夫 pronounced gong1 fu, means effort or hard work. In the western we pronounce Kung because we just can't pronounce eastern words correctly.
beatboxpeej 2 years ago
I just wanna make a point about martail arts in general the only way your gonna know what works is to train and test what you have learnt it is 2 completly differnt reality's from trainning in the dojo and fighting on the streets and that goes for all disciplines i dont care if its mma. mma has rule's in the ring. Street fight= no rules dojo= training. Kung fu means hard work are hard task. Not something all westeners realise but more correctly in chinese it's gung fu not kung fu.
lococavasa 2 years ago
Do you mean that fat karate guy, who thinks he's a 7th dan. That guys a joke, and a liar. Theres no way he's a 7th dan, black belt in 3 other different styles, been a bouncer for 25 years and run several different schools as well as having 40 yrs experience in isshinryu karate
I agree with what you say tho, MMA is for people who like sport fighting, but martial arts is a complete art, mind body and soul.
dickies1922x 2 years ago
MMA is only better if you're a cowardly peice of trash that wants to die of a heart attack, it's nasty, clumbsy, brutish, and too concerned with sports and rushing through the ranks to even learn any techniques correctly.
ThePandaPope 2 years ago
you reeeeally havnt kept up to speed with mma have you?
tkdyo 2 years ago
Not just exercise. It's an aid to meditation also. Shaolin is a complete martial art, it focuses on the physical, metaphysical and spiritual.Many people just won't understand it, because they just want to learn to hurt others. Without religion (not necessarily Buddhism) , a lot of martial arts are hollow.
nexislex 2 years ago
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BANG!...... UR DEAD. MUCH EASIER
carloblacksti 2 years ago
plus the third time he did it was different from the way he showed it in the second time LOL!!!
mariosyjp 3 years ago
so he's wrong because he didnt do a kick the same exact way? hes only human
Distephano 2 years ago
plus if you know kung fu you know that you do not turn your hand round before that second kick. the rest of his vids are full of much more serious mistakes showing that he has "learned" from videos
mariosyjp 3 years ago
MMA student keep complaining about real Shaolin Kung Fu because they aren't capable of learing any kind of complicated technique. Of course this guy here in the vid is hopeless even though those kicks weren't too bad. His rest vids are awful
mariosyjp 3 years ago 2
fagg
ecpeacockdc 3 years ago
you're a fagg
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1bol1 3 years ago
FUCK MMA
cuffscook 3 years ago 3
@cuffscook You stay classy.
shmacko78 1 year ago
landed*
rowandy85 3 years ago
That's not a jump inside. He laded on his left foot.
rowandy85 3 years ago
TOOL BAG.
kauaiyi 3 years ago
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is this real shaolin kung fu???????
hackme123456789 3 years ago
I dont think this is completely useless. Taking out the slaps cuts down time, adds power because you can use all of your bodily power to strike, and makes it easier to control. So in this form, its not really 100% effective, but with adjustments, it can work great.
chrslbrt 3 years ago
some what true individually there are useful components but put together like this in this order and format it,s useless
taoshyr25 3 years ago
yeah i agree, but this unless I misheard is kung fu for health, so its not meant to be 100% effective, and Chrslbrt was saying about the form, well they are katas meant to simulate a fight so you would adjust it if you were fighting, personally I think the guy in the video looks like a fairy and is probably more of a health freak than a martial artist
bobmarleyluke 3 years ago
WUSHU!
hebronsawyers 3 years ago
when are we goin to see real martial arts instead of wu shu performances . If you know the history of wushu and true gung fu systems then you know how useless it is in a real fight
taoshyr25 3 years ago
Yes kung fu may be pretty useless in fights but some people like it for the sport and others for cultural interests. I wouldn't say this is completely useless though because while learning it you develop more agility,flexibility,presision and so on.
volcomman685 3 years ago
Actually I did,nt say it was useless because i,ve studied real shit for over 25 years and know better by the way lame web site
taoshyr25 3 years ago
and that, is how you knock out a hand. :)
jernov 3 years ago 3
no offense, but if you think your learning anything by watching this video, your not. Stop wasting your time
spymaster121 3 years ago
its just a combo bitch
Streetfighter133 3 years ago
lame
mrtubbs1 3 years ago 2
lawlz
kung fu foreva!
blackhawk777 3 years ago
hahhaha i remember that tornado kick (tracktracktrack truki ) hahahhaha
elalejandro22 3 years ago
I used to be able to do those kicks. It's interesting how he sequences them together with the intermediate movements. I bought guns and got fat and lazy. I am reinspired to work out again.
FreeEnergyEngineer 3 years ago
Ill show you tornado kick: Tratracktrack tru-ki. lol
gabrielasv 3 years ago
In fact,there are two kinds of Kung-Fu costumes,one without belt,and the other one with belt.The one with belt is more ancient,it's descended from Hanfu(the traditional Han Chinese costume).The other one without belt is descended from the Manchurian costume.
VivalaChina 3 years ago
I always think that the Northern Style Kung-Fu is more powerful than the Southern-Style.
VivalaChina 3 years ago
That's your opinion. I respect that, but I prefer southern-style, especially Hung Gar.
Infame16 3 years ago
I also studied Northern Style Kung-Fu with an old Chinese man several years ago,but I don't use those kicks,instead I use my elbows and sometimes my knees.That's not Muy Thai,because in Northern Style,we also use them to fight,but not as often as Muy Thai.
VivalaChina 3 years ago
the "throwing my arms around" part looks really cool in some way... but really gay in another way...
zzzzzzzzzz098 3 years ago
thats some flashy shit all i can do is a roundhouse
hendrixpornlol 3 years ago
My tornado kick (from tae kwon do) is a little different. I love to see other's practice their learned art. It is a priviledge and conditions the spirit--the utlimate goal.
TKDandHKDMommy 3 years ago
is this wu shu?
Cyrax613 3 years ago
thats really good form on that tornado kick
dagonthed 3 years ago
umm i little easier please
rebagirl0101 3 years ago 2
Kung Fu moves? Those look more like Wu shu techniques.
Ficadigi 3 years ago
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ilSomli 3 years ago
Isn't this just a demonstration, for health, talk about taking something wildly out of context. Most people who are dissin this guy can learn more about Chinese martial arts 'cos it's obvious you've a lot too learn, good luck!
colopity 3 years ago
i don't tink dat dat guy has any real skill...i tink he's just looking for fame and fortune...like many other would be fighters...of course i could be wrong..but that's my initial take on the guy
zach1791 3 years ago
dude nice night gown
nirvanafan2737 3 years ago
From one Kungfu expert to another, this display is weak without dynamic expression of flow combined with power. I am sure you can do more better, especially when demostrating to the public for recognizion or self glory.
sifutruemaster 3 years ago
No disrespect, but this guy reminds me of Steve Carell from The Office. Kinda made me laugh at first watching this.
DaggerFynn 3 years ago
AAAHHHHH I always miss the tornado kick!
Julienfun 3 years ago
that is the longest title on youtube iv ever seen
shagohod600 3 years ago 7
it juz helps u with better footwork and balance...+ it stretches u leg so dat u can kick better and faster thats all...usefull only in long range fight...
zuesninja 3 years ago
the jump inside crescent breaks way too soon
teamschoolmoms i call bullshit - youre a shill
dogiron10 3 years ago
So I've been practicing this routine every morning for the last 5 days since it was posted. I get up at 5 am and do 500 3-kick combos as he demonstrated, then 500 with the other leg. Already I'm feeling much more energetic and find myself winning a lot more street fights too. This shit really does work! Thanks ExpertVillage!
TeamSchoolasticsMoms 3 years ago
Hmm... But the whole point of Martial arts nowadays is for defence purposes. The fact that you're getting in a lot of street fights just undermines the moral ground that your training teaches, does it not?
ShinigamiWolf1 3 years ago
Ok dude. Shit like this dosent work in street fights. Its a whole diffrent ball game kid
Str0ngSide 3 years ago
seriously! in a street fight whoever gets kicked in the face goes down. next 2 kicks are useless as guy is already on ground.
freedustin 3 years ago
all kungfu masters started practicing as kids. this video is somekind of basic techniques, it is not meant to be strictly copied to use in real fight. it is supposed to improve your body's strength, flexibility. Another thing you need to know is that it is too late for an adult to practice Kungfu. you can only learn some quick techniques, but can never reach a master's level.
recigar 3 years ago
I don't think so... I think it'll just take more work for an adult... and what age is "too late"
SS4Gojetanks 3 years ago
verry nice, but you're slow as fuck.
Calebmoyer 3 years ago
i can see this guy does good in mosh pits
DrDumb6 3 years ago
This is bullshit. Mike Tyson would kick your ass biatch!
TheRealRazhel 3 years ago
Wing Chun is not about flashy moves- it doesn't leave contact with the ground and is always able to attack. northern styles of kung fu have more acrobatics and jumping. i imagine that a roundhouse or crescent kick will get rejected by a wing chun master- and counter attacked as the northern style loses balance. both are good for fitness but wing chun is closer to boxing and reality.
superhumansight 3 years ago 2
he looked like he was danceing lol
777BOBZER777 3 years ago