WSOP 1997 Final Table Part 3

[weatherallc05]

4:10 haha pwned ur soul with that bluff. stu is a boss

[itssimpleiwinyoulose]

This looks so fucking old sure its not 1897?

[krata77]

omfg somebody shoot that redneck with a bow tie and a baseball cap.

[memyselfandeye3]

"Element 1516----theres a difference between "better" and "inconsistent" and Stu Ungar could be inconsistent due to drug-use not lack of talent or that he was "worse" than anyone else, all you have to do is look at the winning statistics of stuey and those who were around and you will conclude that Stuey WAS the best, do the homework!

[leder89]

@memyselfandeye3 Man Youtube should get you paid, you’re spending your life on that website....

[leder89]

@memyselfandeye3 And also, that guy was cheating years long, that skilled him a lot about how people react when they bluff in any way.

But he was surely talented.

[Aleronx90]

Stuey had some insane skills almost beyond humanity, i mean he was able to read players like no one ever so he must have been able to collect every single tell from any single player in any moment, I strongly believe that if he would be alive he would still be the best, not mentioning what he might have been without drug addiction, sorry for my english. R.I.P. Stuey

[JesusSavesBelievers1]

why did the dealer flip over the mucked hand?

[redhidus]

@JesusSavesBelievers1 its not mucked... he deliberately showed his bluff to piss him off..

[TMLFan905]

@redhidus im pretty sure he was talking about the 9 7 of diamonds that ron supposedly folded face down before stu showed the bluff

[mandrew767]

...what a bluff - respect !

[sneak108]

@mandrew767 it was sweet. then he throws it out there... doesnt even care to give the info lol

[superdave31]

yeh but the way i saw it he just sensed the other bloke was weak and bet to get him off whatever hand he had

[jmerrey]

after stu bluffed, the commentator made the dealer turn up ron stanley's cards, and this was before the hole cam...if I was ron stanley i'd be pissed ;)

[memyselfandeye3]

stuey reigns supreme, and not for the first time, for the THIRD! Long live the KING of poker!!! his memory will never fade.

[RollJob88]

4:50 fuckin Drew Carrey, got a love the guy!

[LastCommodore]

3:00 wow, Gabe guessed Stu might have Q 10.

[fritzov]

Gabe had played with Stu many times over the years.

[koqie]

Lol i like how the announcers are so sure of the hand that stu has, and he was bluffing lol

[simonjeste]

@koqie that tells you how amazingly convincing Stu was when he ran a bluff it was completely 100% the same as if he DID have the hand he was representing!

[shadowsinc]

I think the 9-7 was shown jsut for T.V. IT was a big pot and after the bluff-show of stuey it would be good t.v to show how Ron got bluffed.

[Ayoudell]

I have NO IDEA why Ron's 9 7 of diamonds was turned up.

[slick0123]

he was showing what he laid down

[2mauthnercells]

ron? he mucked face down. if he wanted to show i don't know why he wouldn't have mucked face up.

[2mauthnercells]

this is what I, and I believe smallpants, was referring to. you're correct in that any player can ask to see a losing hand IF the hand went to showdown. it's bad etiquette, but not prohibited. that's why you can go to the last hand option online and see. in the event of the hand with stuey and ron, it was NOT a showdown, therefore the dealer had NO right to flip ron's cards over, whether a player requested it or not. unless ron asked for it, the hand should have been mucked face down.

[bennybody]

In "The Book of Bluffs" Matt Lessinger writes that the tournament director demanded the dealer to turn Rons hand face up. Very very bad etiquette by a tournament director at the World Series of Poker. Ron was most certainly upset about it too

[mattingly17]

the director probably was told to show as much info as possible for the camera.

remember no hole cams back then and they wanted to popularize poker by showing the home audience as much info as they could so they wouldn't be so in the dark.

that is my rationalization.

[SocrTrump]

yea that is really weird. he definitely mucked face down. Was there some kind of rule implemented where the railbirds had to know the cards so they didn't get bored out of their minds? hahah

side note- good read by gabe putting stu on one of four hands.. although he was leaning towards the ones that were good hands on the river rather than a missed draw like it was it's still an impressive read.

[sudofan]

i was in vegas once ans the freemont lightshow was out of order

[nemullkk]

How can you not like Stu unger??

Just the way he talks makes you smile! + his poker playing is sick, playing against him on his prime would be a nightmare!

[wituscz]

very nice read by gabe, he called 4 hands what probably stuey holds and he was right in QT

[smallpants30]

why the *** are they turning up the mucked cards? Thats just shit.

[Ayoudell]

Do you play online? You CANNOT muck any hand you show down. To me that is against the principles of the game-you should only be REQUIRED to show a hand to win the pot, and in live poker that's how it is-it's bullshit IMO

[2mauthnercells]

smallpants makes a good point though, at least in regard to the hand where stuey bluffed with the Q10, cause that hand wasn't a showdown. the other guy mucked to stuey's bet. his hand should never have been turned over. stuey chose to flip to show the bluff, but the other guy's hand should have stayed concealed unless he flipped himself or asked for it to be shown, which i can't see why he would have. he mucked face down. should have stayed that way.

[Ayoudell]

I want to make an apology and correct myself-I was wrong. The rules are: ANY player dealt in on the deal can request the dealer to show ANY hand played to showdown-Example: Stuey bets 220,000, then Ron CALLS-Stuey's gonna muck his cards face down. Mel Judah,(for example) could say "dealer, I want to see Stu's cards" and the dealer would be REQUIRED to turn up Stu's hand-that's why it is the way it is on online sites-you can muck your cards at the table, but by clicking on the hand history,

[Ayoudell]

You can see what all the hands were that went to showdown. I think it would be rude at the live table to ask to see a players cards if he wished to muck them-I would only do it in a very special circumstance. The live game and the internet game are the same, yet at the same time they are VERY different-to me poker is just like music-it's better LIVE!

[BuddyWillis]

lmao drew carey forgot where he was for a sec

[STREETLURK]

Stu was the best card player of all time. Period.

[YouJussGotCurbed]

@STREETLURK poker player not card

[Element1516]

@STREETLURK as much as i dont like new age .... phil ivey is prolly all around better... stu ungar wasnt even the best NL Hold Em player.. .the best players in the world who played with him will even say that

[crusader037972]

Ten years for Stuey, 11-22-98.

He died heart failure, not an overdose, he small amounts of drugs in his system but not enough. It was all brought on from years of abuse. He's still lost more in one hand than I've ever earned. God rest you Stu.

[drewey07]

Peter Bao, "i fill satifi aboutit. But i hoping to come in fit plate ya know"

[Brendan424242]

how did he kill himself again?

[mcmanusdown]

drug overdose

[josephus1811]

nah he had a heart attack from the years of drug abuse, slightly different, wasnt an OD per se

[maverick916]

i disagree, i like hearing the commentating. you get to hear what pros go through when analyzing what an opponent can have. kaplan even says what stu had during the bluff.

[simon16simon]

ya i think gabe is good, you should hear some of the other old commentating.

check out the 1981 final table, if you haven't seen it yet.

[chriskila]

Nice cap hellmuth has he looks like a nerd lol

[sneak108]

@chriskila lol

[Ayoudell]

But Ron just can't take the risk of losing

220k more if he's wrong and finally mucks. Both Gabe and Phil are both completely sold that Stu has a strong hand, and then he flips over the bluff. This is a perfectly executed bluff. Stu is so legendary, and there is very little footage of him playing availible. I wish this were not the case. It would be amazing to be able to watch him with hole card cams!(this commenting system is piece of shit.)

[fireking345]

Dude u analysis it perfectly..

i really really wanna study him and how he plays...

[Ayoudell]

Nice hand between Ron Stanley and Stu. Ron completes and Stu checks, and they both check the flop. Ron then fires around a pot size probing bet, and Stu, with his legendary radar for weakness, slightly more than min raises, representing a strong hand. Ron calls because of Stu's reputation for highly aggresive play. Ron checks the river and Stu fires another barrel, slightly more than the pot, backing up his raise on the fouth street.

Ron Still suspects Stu of a bluff, (con'td above)

[Ayoudell]

Nice hand Between Ron Stanley and Stu. Limp/ check, flop-check/check, then Ron fires a probing bet with his pair of 9's, Stu, with his legendary radar for weakness, raises slightly more than a min raise, trying to represent a strong hand, and Ron calls because of Stu's reputation for highly aggressive play. Then Stu fires a healthy bet after the river falls, again slightly more than the pot, again representing a very strong hand. Ron still suspects Stu of a bluff, (con't above)

[MachineManX51]

At 3:09, you can hear the voice over of Gabe commenting on what he might have. It's obvious from the different sound of it that it was added in after the taping but made to sound like commentary.