Great episode - makes me wish I liked Peter Jackson. The Lovely Bones was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Whatever he may have once had I think is lost.
Doing a 30minute show about Peter Jackson and not seeing Bad Taste is v disrespectful, bit of a joke really...........the LOTR success has more resonance when you put Bad Taste into context and the journey of this great man.
I disliked the way Jeff, who was clearly the most knowledgeable on Jackson's pre-LOTR work, was all but cut out of the conversation once LOTR was reached . He didn't get a single word in on King Kong.
this idea just hit me. how about a show about michael cimino. talk about deer hunter, heaven's gate (director's cut), the sicilian, and just basically his complete fall from grace. rarely do i get to here people talk about him unless they're comparing something to heaven's gate ("Wanna know about water world? It's heaven's gat ein a pool!").
How about a sci-fi show? Why did hollowood stop making thinking films like PLANET OF THE APES and SILENT RUNNING and is making mindless action and SFX crap?
However I do adore Bad Taste (aka: Braindead) and I find Heavenly Creatures to be a masterpiece. It saddens me that TLOTR won 11 Oscars yet it seems to me like everyone ignored Jackson's far superior gem of its existence. Here is one film that does NOT glamorize murder. King Kong was not perfect but I had a blast and at least found it an improvement over TLOTR. It did need to be shorter though, I guess editing is not Peter Jackson's strongest point in his films.
Perhaps, I've been told that several times, but I am aware I am in the minority. Please remember I didn't think much of TLOTR, and I for once find Booreman's Excalibur a far better fantasy epic than Jackson's trilogy COMBINED can ever dream of being. So yes, I would much rather have had him as a director no matter how much from the books he would have cut and altered to piss Tolken fans off. I wish YouTube would allow me to write more per comment because I want to this all night. ;)
Dude, I JUST watched Excalibur a couple weeks ago. When I was a teen, I worshiped this film. Watching it now, to put it best, it's clunky. Arthur's dubbing is just the first thing that comes to mind. Hey, I think the film is still endearing, and some images are priceless. But it feels sorta cheap and neutered these days. And I actually LIKE Boerman as a filmmaker! Not sure what your specific issues are with the LOTR trilogy, but being a contrarian ain't gonna cut it comparing these films.
I know I am in the minority on this one but didn't think much of TLOTR. I found most of the actors (especially the Hobbits) miscast and weak, the entire trilogy for me was the typical case of a director given too much freedom to shoot his fanboy dream project and cramming it all up into an incomprehensible 16-hour film that gets poorly edited into theaters as three parts. It has some fantastic visuals here and there, but I really wish Boorman had gotten his films made instead.
King Kong isn't perfect. I find it interesting how Eric in this episode points out the difference in camera styles from King Kong as a "flaw" yet doesn't seem to mind it in TLOTR where IMO it is equally troubling. It was a shoddy trilogy assembled on the cutting room floor as shooting started without a proper script. I don't even find it as visually creative as people make it out to be, Jackson only hired the conceptual designers of the book covers and gave people visuals they already knew.
HEAVENLY CREATURE was great, as for the rest of his works I have mixed fellings on them.
BUDDY6414724297 3 months ago
You forgot to talk about Forgotten Silver his satire documentary.
MatthiusSama 5 months ago
So... where's Peter Jackson?
WolfySnackrib666 11 months ago
Did y'all talk about forgotten silver cause I wasn't listening good
Arabofamerica77 1 year ago
What movies has peter jackson made. Can someone give me a full list. Because I still haven;t seen a movie of his that I like.
BUDDY6414724297 1 year ago
@BUDDY6414724297
Bad Taste
Meet the Feebles
Dead Alive/Braindead
Forgotten Silver
Heavenly Creatures
The Lord of the Rings
The Frighteners
King Kong
The Lovely Bones
JTunns 1 year ago 2
Peter Jackson is a really great film-maker
directorlog 1 year ago
I like peter Jackson, but he needs to get some better writers for his films.
It needed saying.
ghostmanlostsoul 1 year ago
Great episode - makes me wish I liked Peter Jackson. The Lovely Bones was one of the worst movies I've ever seen. Whatever he may have once had I think is lost.
koinshaku 1 year ago
Nice discussion, but you missed, forgot, or didn't know about another great work by PJ: Forgotten Silver. Greatest fake documentary ever made.
monsterlair 1 year ago
Melanie Lyskeny sweet home alabama 2 and a half men
Thunda1986 1 year ago
Yeah.. agree. The Two towers is the weakest. TOo much unnecessary additions and changes.
Pierin24 2 years ago
the guy on the right is such a douche. he knows he's an idiot and that's what he talks in that tone.
almightyhans 2 years ago
How can you only talk about monsters and war when it comes to LOTR? It is so much more.
LOSTACTOR1988 2 years ago
Doing a 30minute show about Peter Jackson and not seeing Bad Taste is v disrespectful, bit of a joke really...........the LOTR success has more resonance when you put Bad Taste into context and the journey of this great man.
CylonFraker 2 years ago 12
What is actually going on here?
RenPictures 2 years ago 3
I just recently saw Melanie Lyskeny from Heavenly Creatures in Stephen King's ROSE RED. She played the big sister to the autistic / psychic girl.
83phatman 2 years ago
Worst part about King Kong was Adrian Brody, and the island stuff went on far too long.....way too long....
Apart from the Lord of the RIngs, Heavenly Creatures and Dead Alive are his best movies.
And Michael Fox was actually quite good in Frighteners, but the script wasn't as good as Peter jackson can do.
83phatman 2 years ago
@83phatman i liked adraqin brodie in Kong
Thunda1986 1 year ago
grrrr the way these guys say New Zealand annoy me... its NEW Zealand not NU Zealand geez!
xXxJandAxXx 2 years ago
oh come on, give him some credit for Kong.
Jack Black was pretty decent, I thought. And the best part had to be the relationship between Ann and Kong.
togio100 2 years ago
JACKSON
SentoMehlhopt 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
no one know who he was until LOTRs.
nigel101 2 years ago
just saw 'meet the feebles' base on what they said and it was fucking great. crazy, funny shit.
feyd8194 2 years ago
I disliked the way Jeff, who was clearly the most knowledgeable on Jackson's pre-LOTR work, was all but cut out of the conversation once LOTR was reached . He didn't get a single word in on King Kong.
MemberNo2 2 years ago
I believe it's pronounced WET-a not WEET-a.
fardawg 2 years ago 9
are you a kiwi?
xXxJandAxXx 2 years ago
It was Anne Perry not Ann Rule that "heavenly creatures" was based on.
fardawg 2 years ago
How could anyone have not seen bad taste?
I rented that movie back in 1997 after seeing Braindead. Then I saw Meet the Feebles.
Broyale26 2 years ago
this idea just hit me. how about a show about michael cimino. talk about deer hunter, heaven's gate (director's cut), the sicilian, and just basically his complete fall from grace. rarely do i get to here people talk about him unless they're comparing something to heaven's gate ("Wanna know about water world? It's heaven's gat ein a pool!").
ethansloan 2 years ago
Hee hee they guys here obviously know so little about films it's hilarious.
"I loved it!"
"I loved it too!"
spielme 2 years ago
Peter jacksons best film/s was lotr!!
It won the most awards and every film now is compared to lotr!
His other films are classics, but none compare to the 9 hour epic!
HiveFleetDerilect 2 years ago
i agree with jeff, dead alive is by far my favorite peter jackson film
piven88 2 years ago
How about a sci-fi show? Why did hollowood stop making thinking films like PLANET OF THE APES and SILENT RUNNING and is making mindless action and SFX crap?
BUDDY6414724297 3 years ago
Early PJ films are so unbelievably daring and rare. I miss those kinds of movies, seeing as he's gone on to $200 million epics.
suckerdwsp316 3 years ago
What a respect for the LOTR movies....
MartinKoolhoven 3 years ago
However I do adore Bad Taste (aka: Braindead) and I find Heavenly Creatures to be a masterpiece. It saddens me that TLOTR won 11 Oscars yet it seems to me like everyone ignored Jackson's far superior gem of its existence. Here is one film that does NOT glamorize murder. King Kong was not perfect but I had a blast and at least found it an improvement over TLOTR. It did need to be shorter though, I guess editing is not Peter Jackson's strongest point in his films.
Chico16 3 years ago
Kong an improvement over LOTR?? You, sir, are out of your goddamn mind.
MCFoltz 3 years ago 3
Perhaps, I've been told that several times, but I am aware I am in the minority. Please remember I didn't think much of TLOTR, and I for once find Booreman's Excalibur a far better fantasy epic than Jackson's trilogy COMBINED can ever dream of being. So yes, I would much rather have had him as a director no matter how much from the books he would have cut and altered to piss Tolken fans off. I wish YouTube would allow me to write more per comment because I want to this all night. ;)
Chico16 3 years ago
Dude, I JUST watched Excalibur a couple weeks ago. When I was a teen, I worshiped this film. Watching it now, to put it best, it's clunky. Arthur's dubbing is just the first thing that comes to mind. Hey, I think the film is still endearing, and some images are priceless. But it feels sorta cheap and neutered these days. And I actually LIKE Boerman as a filmmaker! Not sure what your specific issues are with the LOTR trilogy, but being a contrarian ain't gonna cut it comparing these films.
MCFoltz 3 years ago
Heavenly Creatures was far from ignored, thats the film that got him attention in America/Hollywood.
lordcrumb07 3 years ago
I know I am in the minority on this one but didn't think much of TLOTR. I found most of the actors (especially the Hobbits) miscast and weak, the entire trilogy for me was the typical case of a director given too much freedom to shoot his fanboy dream project and cramming it all up into an incomprehensible 16-hour film that gets poorly edited into theaters as three parts. It has some fantastic visuals here and there, but I really wish Boorman had gotten his films made instead.
Chico16 3 years ago
You wish Boerman had his chance? Poorly edited??
Christ ... UP YOUR MEDS!
MCFoltz 3 years ago
King Kong isn't perfect. I find it interesting how Eric in this episode points out the difference in camera styles from King Kong as a "flaw" yet doesn't seem to mind it in TLOTR where IMO it is equally troubling. It was a shoddy trilogy assembled on the cutting room floor as shooting started without a proper script. I don't even find it as visually creative as people make it out to be, Jackson only hired the conceptual designers of the book covers and gave people visuals they already knew.
Chico16 3 years ago
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klown2704 2 years ago
lmao
OrginalKork 1 year ago
I've seen Meet the Feebles, and holy hell, did that movie scar me. I saw it way too young.
Dead Alive is next on my queue.
kingcanti 3 years ago
Brain dead is fantastic, Jeff was right though, the Priest fighting the undead was the best part.
I thought Heavenly creatures was great and the LOTR is just sublime, but really Mike, check out Bad taste, it's hilarious.
Haven't seen meet the feebles yet though, will need to check it out.
Oh yeh and Frighteners is decent, nothing special though.
Areashiftybun 3 years ago 2
Dead Alive / BrainDead was my first, and i RAN to my local video store to buy FEEBLES. PJ is great.
benaiah74 3 years ago