NASCAR:Tony Stewart, Formula One: Lewis Hamilton

[player1vladimir]

Nascar is not even near F1 is like comparing an arrow to an assault rifle.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir when did I compare the two?

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged hmmm did you watch the seat swap the whole time they were comparing the 2 cars

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir Of course...I thought you saying that I had compared them...there is no comparison. I will say that Stewart did a reasonable job and so did Lewis. I had never driven anything but open wheel and Nissan put me in one of their IMSA 300's at Firebird...probably before half of you were born..I remember thinking on the first hot lap braking into the first turn that the car was never going to stop and I was going to destroy a 200K car. I can't imagine how strange a Cup car must handle

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged let me as you something about NASC, it isn't so popular here in Europe.

So here is the question.

Do they ever driver it outside those oval circuits? I mean do they drive it as well on other racetracks with left and right turns and with different elevations?

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir Yes they do..they run Watkins Glen, a former GP course, they run in California at Sonoma and they're now in talks to run Road America (Four mile road course). Road racing these cars has picked up in popularity. Though they're no where near as quick as DTM, they do run VERY close in these road races...if somebody doesn't move over and is slower..they get bumped out of the way.

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged wow nice. And beside NASCAR, Indycar and ALMS are there any other popular american racing organisation? Also what about rally in the USA? I never saw rally on american tv, or in american magazines.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir NHRA Drag Racing...in rally it's confined to amateur only. Too bad we don't because WRC is bad ass.

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged It seems to me that americans only care for sports with straights with as little turns as possible.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir No we have a very large group of racers that road race. The biggest problem for many Americans is that they can't see the whole race. Frankly, I grew up with road racing sports and formula cars so my preference is road racing. This is a huge country with vast highways. The quickest way to get somewhere is a straight line, so many of the more modern highways are called Interstates...they can go for 1000 miles or more.

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged well seems to me that these road races aren't so popular i mean you rarely see on tv or somewhere else americans talking about real road races its usually drift, drag or oval races.

And i am pretty sure that a drag race is not even close to a real race.

To me it looks like people there just want sports with as little effort as possible.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir Drag racing takes skill. You can't just jump into an 8,000 BHP car and go fast...you'd kill yourself. As for television, there is so much to choose from in sports in America that the networks don't cover smaller road races....we do love f1....the USGP at Indy had the largest crowd at any F1 race in history. On effort...American football from the kids up to the pros is huge and it does take effort, it's hard hitting and physical..soccer is big up until University.

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged It takes skills but you don't need to learn the track or what speed to take each turn with. It seems to me that in the USA (most of americans) like things which end in few seconds like American football attacks or drag racing.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir You don't just run around in a circle. Raikkonen's two outings on an oval only netted him 15th and 22nd finishes. He didn't qualify in the top ten even in the truck series, so it takes much more skill. As for Americans and wanting things to be over with...American football isn't a game that last for 20 minutes. Vlad...you need to come over and see what it's like...drag racing isn't a National sport...do you know how big this country really is? There are tons of sports.

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged Abour Raikkonen he just got there, give him time i bet he never drove a truck before. Also most of his F1 career he spend in a laying position now he is sitting its different. I am sure he will be better than Montoya. American football to me looks like its all about show... i mean why do you need cheerleaders? Aren't the fans the ones who should cheer?

Most americans care how quick their car goes from 0 to 1/4 mile than how it takes a corner.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@player1vladimir I don't think Raikkonen will be back. That was a behind the scenes deal. But, you have to ask yourself if oval track racing is so easy, why didn't he do better...he was screaming fast in testing. My assessment is that you THINK you don't like America, but Vlad...you really don't know much about us. Come visit, play a little American football with some 16 year olds and you might change your mind about what our sports are like.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@MotorsportsUnplugged Just a note...the reason we have cheerleaders is to look at hot women...why else:)

[player1vladimir]

@MotorsportsUnplugged I didn't say you don't need skill for Oval racing, every sport requires some level of skill but i am pretty sure that driving on some other track like Laguna Seca or Hockenheimring takes more skill and better knowing of the track. Also about american football i watched it. For me cheerleaders have no purpose in the game... also most of people who watch it care more for the singers and dancers and the commercials which happen in the half time.

[PatentApplied]

@player1vladimir Precisely it. The Superbowl is more about the spectacle of show business, including megalomaniac gigs and multimillionaire ads than the sport itself.

Besides, they wear armours.

I just don't get Americans sometime :P but still, they are cool to hang out with, as long as they don't offer me Bud Light hehe.

[player1vladimir]

@PatentApplied Yup its like rugby with armour and the action only takes around 20 seconds than they need to plan it all again.

Here try to watch this american view on real football.

watch?v=yBkbj_S3etY&feature=pl­ayer_embedded

[PatentApplied]

@MotorsportsUnplugged Sorry no space left.

As I said, that's why your cars generally don't bother with turns nor is the public there quite fond of them. They grew in a rather big territory that has a great culture of DIY that applies to travelling as well. So you all from child grew on straight endless Interstates with your family together in a big car or those trailers. It's all different from here!

Cheers mate!

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@PatentApplied What you just described to me is so far removed from anything I ever experienced as a child it's almost a fantasy. You should've detoured slightly to your right...spent a little time in the Appalachian Mountain area. They would have changed your mind, or blew it. I'm amazed to know that you learned so much from your most excellent adventure.

[mtross70]

american football players are some of the best athletes in the world in reguards to strength , speed and jumping ability. you find me another athlete that can bench press well over 500 lbs and run a 40 yard sprint in 4.4 seconds while weighing 255-260 lbs. i will never be an f1 fan until americans and the japanese are allowed to compete. europeans lock us out of f1 because they don't want the competition and they know what happens when they try to compete with us.

[player1vladimir]

@mtross70 heh run 40 yard in 4.4 sec while weighing 255-260 lbs. Can you name me one skinny dude who runs fast on short distances? Of course not because mass is what makes them fast and explosive its in any sport like that not just american football. Every team is allowed to enter formula 1. Toyota, Honda and other japanese manufactures were in F1, for americans its too expensive, nor do they have people for F1.

[mtross70]

@player1vladimir you don't know much about american football. the fastest man in the NFL weighs 185 lbs and runs 40 yards in 4 seconds flat. for america it's to expensive?? your funny we spend 700 billion a year on the military. the fact is american companies as well as the japanese are completely locked out of f1. the europeans will not let their car companies in the sport for fear of competition. this is the reason not money.

[player1vladimir]

@mtross70 Like i said before mass is what gives him the speed look all sprinters in the world they are all heavy and full of muscles, it goes for every sport where sprinting is involved.

If they spend so much on military it has nothing to do with F1.

Americans and Japanese aren't locked out from F1, The team USF1 couldn't pay for the season so that is why they never got in the F1. Toyota and Honda backed out because it was too expensive for them same happened to BMW.

[PatentApplied]

@MotorsportsUnplugged I think that is something that defines not only racing in the US but car making there as well.

Your roads. I've been to NYC this Winter, was struck by that terrible Blizzard around Christmas. I had to be in Miami before New Year and my flight had been postponed to January 4th. So I took the hard way out, rented a car and went on from NYC to Miami.

I must say it was an extraordinary experience, your roads are all straight and maybe that's why your cars don't really bother

[garethkielty]

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[TheHempman09]

Very reasoned piece. Lewis is used to precision, everything working at the right time and the right place, every inch of the car an articulate science. He's going to have a shock if he thinks racing in a NASCAR is going to be anywhere near easy as it would seem. The human element is far more prevelant in NASCAR. However, Tony is going to have to do the reverse. Get used to spot on timing needed in F1, and of course the tyres, if he can't get a f eel for the tyres he's going to have problems

[imnotftw]

f1 is definately better to watch than Nascaar. F1 has difficult turns combined with long straights and great tracks whereas all of the nascaar tracks are just an oval where the driver just turns left. it just comes down to who has the most powerfull car whereas f1 requires a lot of skill.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

I just visited your page. You're a gamer, in other words you've never driven anything that's real, right? I produce what I want. For that test, I was told by my sources that they would map the engines for the GP course at Watkins Glen. If you don't like what you hear, or you THINK you really know something about auto racing....post your own commentary in video. My cousin ran what is now Red Bull, my family has been at this for 60 years. Unlike you, I have actually been in the REAL game.

[Atticus3lack]

"The engines in race trim are LIMITED to 18,000 RPM's. They are capable of just over 20,000 RPM's." so why did u say 19,000?

"You've driven a racing car that goes from 0-60 in 2.6 seconds? I have" WOW good for you.

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

Atticus...you need to listen carefully to what was said...at1:45 into the vid I said it can accelerate to 100 and brake back down to zero in under 7 seconds. The horsepower at the upper range is 770 hp, depending on atmospheric conditions. The engines in race trim are LIMITED to 18,000 RPM's. They are capable of just over 20,000 RPM's. The ECU's, provided by Mclaren are used for that mapping purpose. So MY facts are NOT wrong. You've driven a racing car that goes from 0-60 in 2.6 seconds? I have

[Atticus3lack]

all ur facts on F1 are wrong. They dont Rev up to 19,000 RPM its 18,000 oh and its over 800 hp for an F1 car not 700 hp.

Quote "An F1 car can brake from 200 km/h (124 mph) to a complete stop in just 2.21 seconds"

So where did u get over 7 seconds from.???

Please reply thanks

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

They wouldn't pay Montoya until he lost a % of body fat...Stewart would go broke in F1....not to mention I don't think he could cut the 107 rule.

[wilatemodel]

@MotorsportsUnplugged what makes you think he couldnt cut the 107% rule?

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@wilatemodel Well...if he were given a reasonable car and time to practice...he might make that benchmark, so in retrospect I have to recant...F1 has never been too hard on that rule...look at who they give special consideration to in the number of times they've used it. So I think you bring up a good point. Stewarts actually a very nice guy and quite capable, it's just that F1 at the mid to upper level has become so competitive, I don't think he could adapt...too much time in Cup.

[wilatemodel]

@MotorsportsUnplugged well put & logical.....Kyle Busch on the other hand,.....hhhmmmmm,....

[MotorsportsUnplugged]

@wilatemodel Kyle is probably the best bet but he's got waaaay to much going on...let's face it, the Cup drivers near the top are making money and they've no need to do anything else. Kurt drove my cousins Champ Car at Sebring and all the instructors....two of which drove in F1 were taking bets on when he would spin....it took a long time but only once. Other than that he was very fast, they were surprised. The jumping back and forth may have wound down after Raikkonen.

[TheHempman09]

@MotorsportsUnplugged I truly believe Busch could not compete in F1. Mika Hakkinen, 2 time world champion, had 2 seasons off before comign back to test for a day. After 2 seasons he had gone from world champion to 3 seconds of the pace, which is like a minute in F1. Every F1 driver on the grid today has been in the sport long before they started competing, they're reared by the teams, its like a farm system in baseball, and the best get to the top. By the time Busch did all that, he'd be too old

[TheStevi555]

Gonna have to use a circus size mallet to pound him into the Mazza , you aint kiddin, then another pounding on the track from the wee man..sore day all-round eh!!.....(•_•)

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[copperkipper1]

hehe tony in the 2009 mp4-24 ... not the best F1 car lol XD! Unless they leave the updates on it they had towards the end of the 2009 season.

[TheMilker]

@copperkipper1 Tony is actually going to drive the mp4-23, the car lewis won the 2008 championship in.

[copperkipper1]

@TheMilker Yes I know...This comment was made when the video of lewis & stewart are talking to each other...the mp4-24 is in the background so I just assumed... I wouldn't let Stewart dirve my championship winning car if i was hamilton!!!

[TheMilker]

@copperkipper1 ah i see :)

about stewart driving hamiltons car, will he even fit in the mclaren?

i have never seen an f1 driver with a double chin before lol

[copperkipper1]

@TheMilker Lol that's what a was thinking... montoya was abit on the chubby side for an F1 driver..i'm sure stewart will have to lose abit of weight...otherwise it will be a tight squeeze.

[TheDriveChannel]

It's as modern as it's going to get unfortunately. I agree with you, but most of the drivers from other disciplines seem to all say they're impressed with them. When I jumped out of a F-Atlantic and into one of the IMSA Nissan's...I thought this damn thing won't stop or turn, but then it was so much heavier and I'd never raced anything but open wheel. It does seem like an oxymoron.

[cummins24421]

@TheDriveChannel It seems that all of the major racing leagues are far more focused on the drivers than the cars in the last few decades. It's a logical trend from a business standpoint I suppose. I used to criticize NASCAR for still using carbs and 4spd manuals, but it seems F1 is following suit by limiting the technology permitted. I'd very much like to see a motorsport that is purely about testing the limitations of physics rather than breeding sport superstars as cash cows.

[aga060]

a "modern" sprintcup car?????