@481095ymg2 Me, too. One of the worst kept secrets in gymnastics. No way she was more than 11 or 12 at the time. But all the girls were so tiny back then. She was kind of hiding in plain sight. But she was still awesome. I've only seen one other girl do that first combination since then. It's inconceivable.
This routine of course was very difficult and original but I do not think that makes up for the serious lack of form on the release moves. She never cleaned those bent knees up. Many gymnasts were performing jaegers and tcatchev's (i.e. Gutsu, Miller, Lysenko) with flawless form but she managed to do them this way and get away with no deductions.
@inpanopticon They would. But you need to find a way to swing out of the reverse grip. Her transition out of it was acceptable back in the 90s, but its not found in the CoP anymore. Plus, there is a .1 deduction to change grip after a release move, unless you can find some way to swing out of it. But back then, it was ok to do it. Now you get a deduction for it.
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Which is why she was correctly left off the podium. This routine didnt deserve a 10 given the easy dismount and form breaks, I had this at 9.95
I don't agree with the age requirement at all, though it had good intentions. The fact is, these gymnasts at 12 still may be training for 7 or even 8 years already. Day-in and day-out. And if they peak at 12 or 13, then that's when they should be competing. I think in general, most gymnasts peak at 16 or 17. But what if Miller or Nadia hadn't been able to compete before 16? It would be tragic.
I'd just like to point out she is the only uneven bar gymnast EVER to have been awarded a perfect 10.0 score. Pretty amazing, considering she was probably barely 11 or 12 years old.
@PinkGrapes10 actually, nadia comaneci received many perfect tens on the uneven bars, including the first perfect 10 in history. not to mention daniela silivas and elena schoushonova (doubt that i spelled that correctly!!!!!)
@PinkGrapes10 Are you saying this is the only 10.0 to be awarded on uneven bars? If so that is false. If you are saying she is the only Korean gymnast to be awarded a 10.0 on uneven bars, then you are correct.
Right. The PRK were still lying about her age in 92, meaning (given the eligibility rules at the time) she was probably born in 79. Making her at most 12 here. And she first competed as an 'adult' 2 yrs before this.
You're allowed to perform tucked double backs now, too! (It's only a B - or is it C? - dismount, though, and if you do a D level dismount or higher, you get .5 added to your difficulty for part of the 'composition requirement', for a C dismount you get .3, for B you get 0)
yeah didnt the korean govt. claim her age was 15 for 3 years? such an amazing gymnast, and so sad her whole team was restricted b/c her coaches had to go lie about her age.
totally agree. she was in perfect form for international success, she shouldn't have been restricted.
and it's sad because she was really incredible. it wasn't her fault she was put out there and her age was lied about. i'm sure she didn't have much knowledge of it or much say about it at her age. i don't think she should have been banned.
The age rule is kind of unfair because the West plays along (generally) and countries like China and Korea often completely ignore the rules. Next year the age is going up AGAIN, so its just going to become even more uneven and we'll be missing out on great gymnastics.
I understand your point. I think it's not about her age or being too young, it's about the federation's lies. That is cheating and unworthy of the gymnasts' dignities.
Well, she did have noticeable form breaks in her knees on just about all her release moves, but for the sheer dynamic quality of such a routine at her age at this time in history, I definitely agree with you.
I understand that the govt was wrong if what they did but seriously, i feel bad for the girl herself since she really was better than everyone else regardless of her age
I don't think anyone blames the actual gymnasts, they're children in a totalitarian system, what can they do? The fault lies completely with the authorities.
Kim was an incredible gymnast (both bars and beam), I hope she's doing well. The NK govt. pretty much hid her.
@NYCBlonde I couldn't agree with you more. That's the way I feel about Dong Fangxiao. How could she stand up and say no to her coaches and federation who were using her to further their gain? But since the news just broke and Dong lost all her medals and results, everything is coming down on her head. The IOC has more work to do--they need to punish the federation and not so much the individual athlete in this case.
Younger gymnasts are lighter and less apprehensive, less worried about global competition. They listed her as 15 for 3 straight years. You'd really think China and NK would be better at manipulating historical facts by now :P
Stupid North Koreans. This girl's obviously so many years under age. What is it about commies and lying?! I see China is continuing that tradition in this year's games as well.
She is amazing, one of the best gymnasts i have ever seen. Even tho she was like half the age of all the rest of the people in the compotition, she was better haha x
Wasn't it discovered that she was actually only 11 years old when she did this? Something about the Korean gov't falsifying papers and dental records were used to prove it?
well she supposedly had been missing her two front teeth when she showed up to this competition. her coaches claimed she had knocked them out during an accident on the uneven bars but there were obvious doubt. did you catch that they listed her as 16, 4'4 and 60 lbs. ? that combination doesnt even make sense
Does anyone know what is the difficulty rating of that Tchatchev-front flip thingie in the current code of points? Who else can do (has done) that element?
totally! it's an F ! and nadia hatagan has done in 1993 and 1994 (although not always succesfully and not in combination with the tkatchev) and gina gogean did it in combo with the tkatchev too, though only for one year. guess the romanian strategy was to go safe at the time, which paid off in terms of medals with the old scoring system. Finally, Laetitia Begue of France also did the kim, and i have to say she did it best, HOWEVER, again, not in combo with the tkatchev. Check it!
Someone did a toe on version in a recent high school competition if you search 'toe on counter kim' but I agree, it would be nice to see more originality on the bars, and definitely fewer pirouettes.
No, her name is not messed up. Kim is her surname. Gwang Suk is her given name. In Korean and Chinese, the last name always precedes the first name. Thus, Chen Cuiting's name should not be written Cuiting Chen. That's ignorant.
Thx for posting this. This is the most incredible routine in UB. She should've won silver at least in the Olympics. Kim Gwang Suk salto is insane, no one elsecan emulate her with this routine.
It was a shame that the scores in the Olympic were inflated. She may had that small step in the final, but I feel that with the exception of Lu Li's routine, Kim was the second best. Shanon's routine may have a better landing, but her release moves and swing were not better.
Oh thank you so much for putting the 10 of Gwnag Suk on euneven bars !!! So cute, so cute ans so damn tiny, weird... Poor Kim !!! Love this routine, perfect !
@bernardmvella lol sorry
smeetfan1234 4 days ago
You know....Tatiana gutsu was the same height as Kim these championships...
mgymnast99 3 months ago
I laugh at the "age: 16" every time I watch this video... :p
481095ymg2 6 months ago 4
@481095ymg2 Me, too. One of the worst kept secrets in gymnastics. No way she was more than 11 or 12 at the time. But all the girls were so tiny back then. She was kind of hiding in plain sight. But she was still awesome. I've only seen one other girl do that first combination since then. It's inconceivable.
intldawn 2 months ago
AMAZIIIIING
Mastergymnast1 6 months ago
Ok she was underage.. but we all have to admit that that routine is sick!! Wow!!
LoveGym96 6 months ago
This routine of course was very difficult and original but I do not think that makes up for the serious lack of form on the release moves. She never cleaned those bent knees up. Many gymnasts were performing jaegers and tcatchev's (i.e. Gutsu, Miller, Lysenko) with flawless form but she managed to do them this way and get away with no deductions.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 6 months ago 4
Someone should bring back the Merinich.
inpanopticon 10 months ago
@inpanopticon They would. But you need to find a way to swing out of the reverse grip. Her transition out of it was acceptable back in the 90s, but its not found in the CoP anymore. Plus, there is a .1 deduction to change grip after a release move, unless you can find some way to swing out of it. But back then, it was ok to do it. Now you get a deduction for it.
smeetfan1234 3 weeks ago
@smeetfan1234 Lol you stole my comment.
bernardmvella 4 days ago
It's a real shame that they lied about her age. She deserved better.
Stonymypony 10 months ago
This is my single favorite bar routine EVER!
ShawnVikaKomova2012 10 months ago
Is that 4'4" for height!??!?! Wow.
ShawnVikaKomova2012 11 months ago
She never cleaned up those bent knees, not even for the Olympics.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago 9
@gymnasticsloverxoxo Which is why she was correctly left off the podium. This routine didnt deserve a 10 given the easy dismount and form breaks, I had this at 9.95
metsdudenj 6 months ago
Kim thinking during the routine: "Hope I can do a good job, cause this kind of routine is gonna be a lot harder once I turn 10."
beautifulsarah100 1 year ago 6
absolutely amazing!!! and considering she was only like 12-13 at the time....incredible talent so such a little girl!!
LMA629 1 year ago
The DPRK probably claimed that this was all because of Great Leader who personally choreographed her routine.
krakenwave 1 year ago
@krakenwave think so.
yellowbanana104 1 year ago
this was amazing all done without grips!
moopoo66 1 year ago
I don't agree with the age requirement at all, though it had good intentions. The fact is, these gymnasts at 12 still may be training for 7 or even 8 years already. Day-in and day-out. And if they peak at 12 or 13, then that's when they should be competing. I think in general, most gymnasts peak at 16 or 17. But what if Miller or Nadia hadn't been able to compete before 16? It would be tragic.
lostlyrarose 1 year ago 4
I'd just like to point out she is the only uneven bar gymnast EVER to have been awarded a perfect 10.0 score. Pretty amazing, considering she was probably barely 11 or 12 years old.
PinkGrapes10 1 year ago
@PinkGrapes10 actually, nadia comaneci received many perfect tens on the uneven bars, including the first perfect 10 in history. not to mention daniela silivas and elena schoushonova (doubt that i spelled that correctly!!!!!)
kiwigymnast16 1 year ago
@PinkGrapes10 there has been much more 10.00 on bars then her
moopoo66 1 year ago
@PinkGrapes10 They have been tons of other tens on bars, the first perfect ten in Olympic history was received on bars.
gymnasticsloverxoxo 1 year ago
@PinkGrapes10 Are you saying this is the only 10.0 to be awarded on uneven bars? If so that is false. If you are saying she is the only Korean gymnast to be awarded a 10.0 on uneven bars, then you are correct.
MeanestCoachEver 1 year ago
@PinkGrapes10
ever heard of nadia and het first "perfect" ten?
MrJST94 1 year ago
north korean soviet bastards
thepineapple1 1 year ago
although she bends her legs, i still think she deserved the 10 she got because back then the code was more about originality
TwisterFlipp95 2 years ago 4
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TwisterFlipp95 2 years ago
O to the M to the G
SuperMrpuffy 2 years ago 2
The bars were much closer together at that time, but who could tell, she's so tiny!
She's an incredible bar worker!
MaebySurelyBarely 2 years ago 3
Age 16. Bullshit. Just like the Chinese gymnasts. CHEATERS
guy0307 2 years ago
@guy0307
Right. The PRK were still lying about her age in 92, meaning (given the eligibility rules at the time) she was probably born in 79. Making her at most 12 here. And she first competed as an 'adult' 2 yrs before this.
custardaghost 2 years ago
were you aloud to perform tuck double backs back then?
gymnasticsloverxoxo 2 years ago
You're allowed to perform tucked double backs now, too! (It's only a B - or is it C? - dismount, though, and if you do a D level dismount or higher, you get .5 added to your difficulty for part of the 'composition requirement', for a C dismount you get .3, for B you get 0)
MaebySurelyBarely 1 year ago
OMG SHE IS SO GOOD!
justinselenaluvv 2 years ago 3
incredible!
ikissonthelips 2 years ago 17
yeah didnt the korean govt. claim her age was 15 for 3 years? such an amazing gymnast, and so sad her whole team was restricted b/c her coaches had to go lie about her age.
LMA629 2 years ago 3
She had bent knees of her Jaeger. :(
12bmills 3 years ago
yeah she always bends her kness on her jaeger, it happened in 1992 to <=-[
maxy7792 3 years ago
what's jaeger?
mm9306 2 years ago
jager is the salto she performed at 0:26!
And it wasn´t clean but she is amazing!!!
KseniaSemenovaFan 2 years ago
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alexzjay 2 years ago
it *seems* unfair, but imagine being totally in form & potential to win titles, but being denied because you are "too young".
I understand the federations concerns, but you only have a few peak years then it's all over.
midnightparade 3 years ago 7
totally agree. she was in perfect form for international success, she shouldn't have been restricted.
and it's sad because she was really incredible. it wasn't her fault she was put out there and her age was lied about. i'm sure she didn't have much knowledge of it or much say about it at her age. i don't think she should have been banned.
gymn0brunette0hanley 3 years ago 4
The age rule is kind of unfair because the West plays along (generally) and countries like China and Korea often completely ignore the rules. Next year the age is going up AGAIN, so its just going to become even more uneven and we'll be missing out on great gymnastics.
NonMatchingUnderwear 3 years ago 2
I understand your point. I think it's not about her age or being too young, it's about the federation's lies. That is cheating and unworthy of the gymnasts' dignities.
espinaca79 2 years ago
kim, the best bar worker in the world!
incredible bar worker!
chonglansang 3 years ago 4
This was a perfect 10.
12bmills 3 years ago
Well, she did have noticeable form breaks in her knees on just about all her release moves, but for the sheer dynamic quality of such a routine at her age at this time in history, I definitely agree with you.
QueenieQue 3 years ago 2
I understand that the govt was wrong if what they did but seriously, i feel bad for the girl herself since she really was better than everyone else regardless of her age
piggywong88 3 years ago 25
I don't think anyone blames the actual gymnasts, they're children in a totalitarian system, what can they do? The fault lies completely with the authorities.
Kim was an incredible gymnast (both bars and beam), I hope she's doing well. The NK govt. pretty much hid her.
NYCBlonde 1 year ago 4
@NYCBlonde I couldn't agree with you more. That's the way I feel about Dong Fangxiao. How could she stand up and say no to her coaches and federation who were using her to further their gain? But since the news just broke and Dong lost all her medals and results, everything is coming down on her head. The IOC has more work to do--they need to punish the federation and not so much the individual athlete in this case.
intldawn 1 year ago
@piggywong88 the younger they are the better they are so it wasn't fair to the other competitors.
gregorygutkin 1 year ago
Younger gymnasts are lighter and less apprehensive, less worried about global competition. They listed her as 15 for 3 straight years. You'd really think China and NK would be better at manipulating historical facts by now :P
yarahahrwe 3 years ago 5
Agreed.
RyanJRA64Abella 3 years ago 2
i feel bad they banned her even though she was crazy good
chohoyoung 3 years ago 4
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Stupid North Koreans. This girl's obviously so many years under age. What is it about commies and lying?! I see China is continuing that tradition in this year's games as well.
powerbookg 3 years ago
She is amazing, one of the best gymnasts i have ever seen. Even tho she was like half the age of all the rest of the people in the compotition, she was better haha x
lrjs93 3 years ago 7
Wasn't it discovered that she was actually only 11 years old when she did this? Something about the Korean gov't falsifying papers and dental records were used to prove it?
granolagirltoo 3 years ago 2
well she supposedly had been missing her two front teeth when she showed up to this competition. her coaches claimed she had knocked them out during an accident on the uneven bars but there were obvious doubt. did you catch that they listed her as 16, 4'4 and 60 lbs. ? that combination doesnt even make sense
nchllltmr 3 years ago 2
what would this have gotten with the new COP?
zhangxingyi 3 years ago
She's like 10! What's she doing in the Olympics?!
Muahahax3 3 years ago
Amazing. I'd hate to follow that routine! LOL.
lokienvy 3 years ago
She had form on all her releases BUT you gotta admit that combo is amazing.
TuesdayPillow 3 years ago 2
OMFG that was freakin amazing and she was goin so freakin fast she is a little power house
opgymnast4life 3 years ago 5
a almost deserved 10 :) id give it a 9.975 but if her legd werent bent on the yeager thrn id give it a 10! een with a simple dismount
gymnasticsforever95 3 years ago 3
This moviment is so interesting and fun
nikirififo 3 years ago
amazing
HoneyGotMeHooked 3 years ago
amaqzing routine though her yeiger was not perfect and i would not of given her a 10!
ursonikki 4 years ago
gogean euro93, roschina98,yuqing and kim, were they the only ones to do this move?
rexus82 4 years ago
Does anyone know what is the difficulty rating of that Tchatchev-front flip thingie in the current code of points? Who else can do (has done) that element?
tbertoli 4 years ago 2
Gina Gogean did it in the European Champinonship in 1994 I think.
gilles574 4 years ago
i dont think anyone has done t since the new code has been around.
eMthegymnast 4 years ago
Guan Yuqing of China competed with it in 1994 - the video's on YouTube somewhere.
I think she actually performed the skill better than Kim Guang Suk (Guan Yuqing had better form).
fruityliciousrhubarb 4 years ago
its an "e"
riestererriesterer 4 years ago
it is an F!
expelliarmus1234 4 years ago
totally! it's an F ! and nadia hatagan has done in 1993 and 1994 (although not always succesfully and not in combination with the tkatchev) and gina gogean did it in combo with the tkatchev too, though only for one year. guess the romanian strategy was to go safe at the time, which paid off in terms of medals with the old scoring system. Finally, Laetitia Begue of France also did the kim, and i have to say she did it best, HOWEVER, again, not in combo with the tkatchev. Check it!
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago
it's a 'G', just like the def and mo salto
yaoryu 3 years ago
what is this, an uction? lol
no it's not a G, it's an F
chech "nadia hategan 1994 worlds AA"
she does a nice counter kim
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago
well its a goood job she is good at the counter kim, since that is her signature move lol
lrjs93 3 years ago
no, i was saying nadia hategan did a good counter kim at 1994 worls AA. get it now?
i haven't seen that move being performed in years and years now. i hope someone will bring it back in the next 4 years
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago 3
Someone did a toe on version in a recent high school competition if you search 'toe on counter kim' but I agree, it would be nice to see more originality on the bars, and definitely fewer pirouettes.
NonMatchingUnderwear 3 years ago
it's a F
wangquanquan 3 years ago
i've seen a couple of her uneven bar videos, and it looks like she does the same routine, with a different dismount each time.
careafterme 5 years ago
Congratulations, you can see! (Through 1991 she did a giant 1/1-double tuck dismount sequence; in 1992 she performed a double layout.)
barndin 5 years ago
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Yes! Because Asians should adhere to the Western method of writing names, that is, given name before surname! Like, I have a friend named Fuk Yu Suk!
snarssicistic 5 years ago
calling her gwang suk kim is like calling shannon miller 'miller shannon'...
Lakuilera 4 years ago 3
i know! i always say Mo Huilan when in fact it should be Huilan Mo. It's so bad!
lepetitpoulet 3 years ago
no it should be Mo Huilan. Your way of saying is correct. chinese surnames come first before given names. I'm chinese, i should know
arthur93 3 years ago 3
You mixed up her name, it is Gwang Suk Kim =).
whipback 5 years ago
Umm..no it's not. Maybe you should check your facts.
mightymouseizme 5 years ago
No, her name is not messed up. Kim is her surname. Gwang Suk is her given name. In Korean and Chinese, the last name always precedes the first name. Thus, Chen Cuiting's name should not be written Cuiting Chen. That's ignorant.
ZhongGuoJiaYou 5 years ago 4
Thx for posting this. This is the most incredible routine in UB. She should've won silver at least in the Olympics. Kim Gwang Suk salto is insane, no one elsecan emulate her with this routine.
molly2222 5 years ago 3
she did not desirve a 10 if you look really close at her jager she has bent legs
shermanator123 5 years ago
agree completely ! Miller and Gutsu were not better than Kim ! She should have win the silver !
gilles574 5 years ago 3
It was a shame that the scores in the Olympic were inflated. She may had that small step in the final, but I feel that with the exception of Lu Li's routine, Kim was the second best. Shanon's routine may have a better landing, but her release moves and swing were not better.
cahan 5 years ago 3
I thought Li Li's routine was superior, as well.
SchwarzeWitwe2 5 years ago 3
Too bad it wasn't in the olympics, she would have been the next Olga, Nadia ...etc....
bbarz 5 years ago
this is one insane routine. She's brilliant! thanks for posting this!
seiiircz 5 years ago 5
Oh thank you so much for putting the 10 of Gwnag Suk on euneven bars !!! So cute, so cute ans so damn tiny, weird... Poor Kim !!! Love this routine, perfect !
gilles574 5 years ago 5