The problem with the EDL is that it is made up of, mostly, unbelievably thick people. The kind thick-as-pigshit scum that England specialises in. Football hooligan types. The worthless vermin that will hopefully be weeded out by Natural Selection.
That really is a serious problem when faced with a Muslim infestation. It almost guarantees defeat.
And it also throws into sharp relief the awesome levels of stupidity displayed by everyone else - the thickest people can see it but you can not!
Hahaha hes right bout one ting they are uneducated lol stop followin me u black basterd!!!! Haha jus epic haha muslim muslamic law a dnt tink he even went playgroup let alone skwl
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that most of the fascist "English" Defence League appear to be Russian skinheads staying in the UK on dodgy "language school" visas?
His Liberal ideas and blatant white liberal guilt bullshit bugs me. The media prefers to paint anyone who is against immigration and the multikult as a racist and some idiotic thug. They found the stupidest guy they could find and made him a poster boy to represent the EDL. It's the same as western journalists videoing crazy jihaddists and small huddled groups of Burkha wearing women in Iran claiming that's how it all is, completely missing out the other side.
Russell is quite funny but his grasp on the reality of politics is quite naive, not just judged by this video but from what I have seen of him.
If you don't realise by now that 911 was a construct of certain secret agencies within the US government then you have pretty much got you head in the sand.
The world is the way it is through YOUR acquiescence, and everyone else's. This whole war on muslim terrorists is a false one, the use an enemy to justify their wars, which are for seperate reaso
The Lebanese had a similar kind of society to the current British. Originally Maronite Christian, they were outbred by Muslim minorities they had invited into their pluralistic democracy. In 1975 a civil war began eventually claiming over 100,000 lives. There is absolute no strong argument that has been put forward as to why a similar situation won't occur in Britain. The EDL may be rough scum, but they are fundamentally right. Laugh while you can, but your children WILL pay the price...
The EDL didn’t go to Blackburn to ‘fight anti-fascists’, as Howard hilariously put it. In fact, many ‘anti-fascist’ red fascists went to Blackburn to fight the EDL. But that can only be politically legitimised by calling us ‘racists’ and/or ‘fascists’.
Also, the EDL didn’t ‘fight amongst themselves’ because of this lack of competition. The EDL actually had to fight off a group of Nazis and racists. That’s what actually happened. You’d think that Russell Howard would be happy about that. No. Only middle-class students and student leaders, as well as Trots and hip comedians, are allowed to fight racists and fascists - and they do it for the working class, etc. The ‘thick’ working class can never be trusted to do this for themselves..
@z3r0ness you're all just a bunch of racists so why don't you just march together so that the real working class (black, white, arab etc.) can unite against you
@z3r0ness (I had not heard of this actual group they were figthing)... WHY head to anywhere to fight anyway? There's a difference between 'fight' and 'protest against.' They still fought amongst themselves though. The same happened at the Preston EDL march, when I HEARD them chanting 'Keep St George in my heart, keep me English' ST GEORGE WASN'T EVEN ENGLISH YOU TWATS!
I was at the demo.The reason for the fight was that a Known Neo-nazi was in the croud and during the speeches tommy recognized him and pointed him out and told the police to take him out of the demo. The police didnt do it,so we took it upon ourselves to removed the Nazi scumbag and his mates who then got angry and started throwing fists.We didnt fight back we just restrained them and moved them away from the demo.See it sounds so much worse put as 'fought among themselves'
I myself am not a national socialist and most neo nazis are complete skinhead nutters but most Brits are completely brainwashed about Nazis and Germany. The honest truth of Germnay will never be written about due to the fact history is written by the victors.
I dislike the EDL for a few simple reasons. They are the same as the UAF. Both sides are funded by jews. The media is run... by jews but most people refuse to look into it.
@TikofTok I think the photos, survivor accounts, and life stories speak for themselves to be quite honest. Unless all the accounts are fake, an entire country lying?
So swallowing ally apologist propoganda is good? Germany went from a debt ridden degenerate shithole to the most successful country in Europe in under 5 years. They abandoned the international banking central banks, created a new currency and a new system. One without capitalists and communists. It worked and in response the communists, jews and corporates annihilated them. Germany was a dog that was kicked for decades and when it finally stood up, we all shot it and gloated.
@TikofTok That's an interesting revision of history. Except German corporate interests were aligned with the government: Bayer, Allianz, Volkswagen, Siemens, Krupp, I.G. Farben are just some of the privately owned (capitalist) companies which existed under Nazi rule, most of which made bags of money and continue to exist today. None of them were expropriated, in fact their (capitalist) owners would never have supported Hitler (which they did) had he not guaranteed their profits! New system? No.
It was a technocratic dictatorship where the very best were supported. Unless of course you believe Germany wasn't prosperous after the Nazis took power.
Everyone had work, food, and healthcare while before they wheelbarrowed money to buy milk. It is you revising History to your own ends.
Yes it does. Jews declared war on Germany, very openly. In the early 1930s, they used many nations to sanction Germany and destroy German products. It was only after Jewish Domination in Germnay was toppled and replaced by Germanics did the country unify.
Blaming ALL jews was wrong but Jews always grow and gain ower with their ethnocentric neopotism. Are you implying Jews do not own most media, financial and political instutions?
@TikofTok Who are these Jews? They are no more nepotistic than other capitalists. When that nepotism isn't as obvious as in the case of 'keeping it in the family', it is far more likely to be related to social privilege (i.e. elite education, particular cultural traits) than ethnicity. What does a Jewish trader have to do with a Jewish barber? Or factory worker? YOU are the one implying that 'Germanic' ownership is in some way superior. It is not!
Well it is because Germanics have German interests at heart. Jews did not. Jews helped out other Jews. I would not mind Jewish Domination if Jews did a good job. Neither would the Germans. It is not their success I am jealous of, I admire it. I admire their solidarity and intellectualism. But it is a bane to any nation that holds them and allows them to take over.
Are you still denying Jewish control over markets and politics?
Also, it is directly linked to their ethnicity. Jews help Jews. It's that simple. It's JEewish doctrine.
There are Jews and Gentiles. The Chosen and the goyim. Not all Jews think like this, which is why it is so sad, alot are used. But there is no denying their ability to take control of nations. And that control is a bane.
@TikofTok Also, it is directly linked to their ethnicity. Jews help Jews. It's that simple. It's JEewish doctrine
This is pure assertion! Controlling nations? You have not a scrap of evidence to back it up except the confused notion that all Jews are scratching each others backs and have it in for 'gentiles'. The majority of Jews (especially influential ones) are totally secular! Does this mean that I think they're great? No! And I am a Jew myself (an unemployed one at that!) This won't wash.
@TikofTok What have I said to revise history? I didn't deny German prosperity. The German state was very interventionist in its rush to industrialise, but so were the other major capitalist countries. This does not vindicate the prosecution of Jews and other minorities, of trade unionists and socialists.
Actually, it does. Firstly, calling Germany Capitalist is ridiculous. They were Socialist. They were NATIONAL socialists. It wasnt just a name, it was a politicla ideology that took Marx, Fascism, Socialism to a completely different level. It took 3 superpowers to bring down Germany.
Jews dominated, that domination was a bane, after its removal, the country unified and became prosperous.
@TikofTok You are still conveniently ignoring the fact that industry remained in private hands and run for profit. If you have a different conception of capitalism to what is conventional, then please explain it. What nonsense that 'Germanics' have 'German' interests at heart. Capitalists are forced by the market to peruse their own material interests in order to stay in business. Any ideology which thinks there is a unified 'national interest' has learned literally NOTHING from Marx.
@mschneiderg 'Jew' is an irrelevant category! There is no particularly 'Jewish' interest that drives the actions of companies and institutions that have Jews sitting on the board of directors. Your political opinions are warped by ethnic nationalism which is based on myth and superstition (hence your view that all Germanic Germans have the same interests in common). This is a fairytale.
Yes there is. Of course there is. My own Jewish politicans demand funding for Israel, Jewish schools while sending kids to Auchwitz. Everything it does benefits Israel or Jews. Why are 139 of the top 400 richest people in the world Jewish? Out of the top 50, 20 are Jewish.
They are the smallest minority in the world yet they run central banks, the IMF, Media, politics and finances.
@TikofTok Not magic but there is a historical reason why Jews were more likely to be in finance, and such trades, as in the past they have been denied employment in other areas and denied the right to own property. I disagree on Germany being socialist - any system based on private property and private ownership & control of the means of production is capitalist. Some control was taken by the state, but it did not interfere with profit accumulation. Same capitalists remained after Nazi regime!
It wasn't private. It was government owned and government permission was needed. The Soviets had almost exactly the same economic plans. They simply differed on social planning. Why is profit a problem in a world where capital is needed? Did the Germans not do well?
There was a reason that Jews were denied such things. It is because they do it in every nation they live. They were kicked out or persecuted in over 100 nations. Yet you dont wonder why?
@TikofTok You're confused guy, because I consider myself a socialist! I support planned economies. That does not mean that I support the Nazis, nor that I reject all their policies, but I see no need to rehabilitate them. You do, apparently, because of YOUR obsession with Jews. Democracy is an important ingredient for socialism (democratic control of the means of production) - nepotism emerges when an elite has disproportionate power - regardless of ethnicity or nationality!
And if you cared about democracy then why not allow people to make democratic decisions? Many countries do not want foreigners, nor do they want socialism. I am not an ideologist, certain systems work better depending on the culture and enviroment. You fail to admit that ELITE with the disproportionate power are Jews.
That is a fact. They are the smallest population in the world yet they own a vast slice of the world wealth and thats not even mentioning Rothschild.
You are assuming alot about me without knowing who I am.
If I made the same assumptions, I would claim you are Jewish. Mainly due to your continual defense of their neopotism, denial of their group ethnocentrism and the fact that most non jews ignore arguments about Germany. Jews really hate the Nazis.
Some do not. That takes an enormous amount of courage.
@TikofTok I have not said a single thing in defence of nepotism. Neither have I made assumptions about 'who you are' - I am merely responding to your arguments which are ideologically ethnocentric and nationalist (and therefore flawed)
As are yours. Your own Jewishness clouds your ideology as does your obsession with socialism and the very thought that Nazi was socialistic turns you off. Deal with it, they adopt the ideology and moulded it. And the worse part is it worked. Unlike the Soviets who were a failure, hated by their people. Germans loved their government.
Germnay is the only marx influenced nation that truly worked until it was destroyed.
@TikofTok Did trade unionists, gypsies, Jews, socialists, liberals and democrats love their government? And yet they were German, no matter Nazi (and your) attempts to exclude them.
Trade unionists were seen as communists as were liberals and socialists. They were not nationalists. Communism and National Socialism differ on their social ideals and their reasoning behind their ideology. Plus, they sympathised with the Soviets who were Germany' enemy.
Jews were excluded from controlling media and other important places up until 39. If you were not a communist sympathiser, you were unharmed.
@TikofTok I do not hate Germans or German advances. Likewise, there is no system I 'love' (not Israel, not the US not the Soviet Union). What I despise, is people who think it's okay to persecute somebody for their politics, beliefs or ethnicity. Germany would have gone the same way as all other capitalist nations or collapsed as it impossible to build socialism in one country in a world economy.
Especially a world economy run by Jews who declare war on Germany. Socialism will always fail, it's open to interpretation and usually corrupt to the core. The modern egalitarian fairyland world socialist live in is a perfect eutopia where nothing can go wrong. The irony is that they call themselves democratic then get pissy when Humans act like Humans and dmand territory and a homogenus society with mono culturalism. Society rejects it.
Secondly, it is based upon the idea all Humans are equal. They are not. We are not the same, as individuals, as cultures, as nations, as people, as races and as humans. That will never change. That is why Nat Soc was a better system, it followed a natural system. It spent like crazy but controlled the population in its own benefit.
Aboriginals for instance simply have not got the same capability as say East Asians.
How does your eutopia fit that in? It can't. I am not a National Socialist. I sympathise with it but I prefer Liberty within my borders and I prefer to keep others out of my borders unless they benefit my nation.
But this can never happen while Jews dominate the system. Nationalism or Liberty. Neither can be achieved when Jews do everything they can to stop it. Deny it all you want, they have the power and they will do anything to maintain it.
@TikofTok You are the utopian here - where did I say anything about correcting all the world's ills? It is you who thinks the world's ills would be corrected if only the Jews stopped controlling everything and nationalism was allowed to flourish. Monoculture you say, except what gives priority to one culture over another, when there are multiple national cultures, not all split on ethnic lines. You see culture and human behaviour in black and white, I am no match for your logical fallacies.
More glorious assumptions. Of course there is one defining culture, based upon the laws of the land and the people who make them. Multi Culturalism is impossible, different cultures have different values and ideals. Opposing cultures cannot unite.
I did not say the worlds ills would be corrected but without that domination, changes can be made for the better and they will not change until that domination is toppled.
You can keep claiming I have logical fallacies but you make broad naive assumptions based upon your concrete socialist beliefs. They have no basis in fact or History. Plus, you are deeply Jewish and like I said, that blinds you.
Different systems work for different cultures and enviroments. Jewish Domination does not help, it hinders. How can people live self determined when Jews control their lives?
I could also ask the same of the Soviets who murdered many, many millions. They starved the Ukranians in the Holodomor. They massacred christians in the Russia. Russians hated their government.
One of the biggest and msot disgusting mistakes the Nazis made was the treatment of slavs. They could have made them allies... Ukraine hated Russia. They could have easily unified Eastern Europe like they did in Bulgaria and Romania.
@TikofTok I have been entirely consistent in my arguments. You claim that German ownership overcomes capitalist relations (i.e. dynamic between the working class and the ruling class) which it doesn't. This is why your 'socialism' is nothing of the sort. The German state had considerable control over industry but it did not govern in the interests of workers - it tried to negotiate a consensus between workers and capitalists, but suppressed strikes and trade unionism. Hence: nationalist!
Of course it had the interests of the workers. They had healthcare, food and employment. As I said. They took the system you love, mouleded it and made it work. That is what you detest. If not for the destruction of Germany by the allies, who knows how far the Germans would have grown? Their scientific advances are still used today.
You simpy hate it because it succeeded where all other socialists have failed.
@mschneiderg By the way, it isn't 'Jewish interests' that are the driving force behind US support for the state of Israel, but US national interests! Israel is a strategic ally for the US as it is a way for it to exert influence and control of the region and it resources. Hence Jewish lobbies for Israel get financial support, pro-Palistinian groups such as Jews For Justice get none.
Industry remained with the permission of government. The Soviet system was very similar to the Nazi system. Of course they were run for profit with the inclusion of giving work, food and healthcare to the people while arming the nation.
Germany was not capitlaist, it was socialist, similar to Russia except with a focus on social conservatism and ethnic pride.
You can keep claiming Nazis weren't socialist. They were. Government controlled everything.
Also, St George's emblem was adopted by Richard The Lion Heart and brought to England in the 12th century. The king's soldiers wore it on their tunics to avoid confusion in battle. Its a important part of English history.
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conspiracytheory1066 2 days ago
He means Islamic/Muslim rape gangs. And they are a reality. Just check out BBC Manchester's webpage.
Press TV = Iranian government mouthpiece
eltel22 5 days ago
LoL
crysis4real 1 month ago
The problem with the EDL is that it is made up of, mostly, unbelievably thick people. The kind thick-as-pigshit scum that England specialises in. Football hooligan types. The worthless vermin that will hopefully be weeded out by Natural Selection.
That really is a serious problem when faced with a Muslim infestation. It almost guarantees defeat.
And it also throws into sharp relief the awesome levels of stupidity displayed by everyone else - the thickest people can see it but you can not!
NowLearnAboutIslam 1 month ago
Hahaha hes right bout one ting they are uneducated lol stop followin me u black basterd!!!! Haha jus epic haha muslim muslamic law a dnt tink he even went playgroup let alone skwl
MegaRobocop123 2 months ago
russle howard is such a prick with a wierd eye!!! basically a muslim shit licker!
hawit8390 2 months ago
@hawit8390 I bet your that dumb edl guy getting interviewed LOL
dragonman9141 2 months ago
@dragonman9141 i bet your a fukin little wanker! you lick your fat ass mums smelly cunt bitch hoe!
hawit8390 2 months ago
@nathanhughes10 He's just racist
wwwdotsoldotcom 3 months ago
They were looking for anti-racists in Blackburn?
Fuck me, that's optimistic.
asubjectiveopinion 4 months ago
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that most of the fascist "English" Defence League appear to be Russian skinheads staying in the UK on dodgy "language school" visas?
I guess fascists don't do irony.
asubjectiveopinion 4 months ago
@nathanhughes10 You can't tell because too much of either let's you have the other.
faro0485 5 months ago
@nathanhughes10 Bitta both
RatedRMatt 5 months ago
Stephen Lennon deserves a bullet through his fucking head, ignorant racist cunt.
MrJaymers 5 months ago
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Truth987Seeker 5 months ago
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Truth987Seeker 5 months ago
His Liberal ideas and blatant white liberal guilt bullshit bugs me. The media prefers to paint anyone who is against immigration and the multikult as a racist and some idiotic thug. They found the stupidest guy they could find and made him a poster boy to represent the EDL. It's the same as western journalists videoing crazy jihaddists and small huddled groups of Burkha wearing women in Iran claiming that's how it all is, completely missing out the other side.
Britain should be about British.
TikofTok 6 months ago
@TikofTok Conscious comment.
jamafrican657 4 months ago
dose he know what infdel means or god >.<
Tkdbigsteven 6 months ago
"Some of these burqa people right..., they can't even speak proper England" hahahahaha
SeaMeBlue 6 months ago
Russell is quite funny but his grasp on the reality of politics is quite naive, not just judged by this video but from what I have seen of him.
If you don't realise by now that 911 was a construct of certain secret agencies within the US government then you have pretty much got you head in the sand.
The world is the way it is through YOUR acquiescence, and everyone else's. This whole war on muslim terrorists is a false one, the use an enemy to justify their wars, which are for seperate reaso
crisisofconsciousnes 6 months ago
Russell is so funny taking the p**s out of the EDL. I cried laughing when I saw this on TV. Well done Russ x
zoff1369 6 months ago
Lmao oh i luv u russel howard :'D
TheCoffeeAddicted 6 months ago
That guy was a drip. The leaders have better knowledge of what the EDL stands for.
The EDL morales are just although there are twats that make the group sound like BNP
Liam0125 6 months ago
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The Lebanese had a similar kind of society to the current British. Originally Maronite Christian, they were outbred by Muslim minorities they had invited into their pluralistic democracy. In 1975 a civil war began eventually claiming over 100,000 lives. There is absolute no strong argument that has been put forward as to why a similar situation won't occur in Britain. The EDL may be rough scum, but they are fundamentally right. Laugh while you can, but your children WILL pay the price...
CharmingLordSausage 6 months ago
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CharmingLordSausage 6 months ago
OLLOLOLOL muslamic law..
sheelan94 7 months ago
"Muslamic Infidel" is my band's name!
HumanMonolith 7 months ago
this is fucking hilarious PMSL!! :)
BlackNeon9 7 months ago
its the muslic muslamic law right LOL
jaimiecreighton23 7 months ago
muslamic infidel, LMFAO :D
AryanMithra 8 months ago
'muslamic infidel ahaha
MerciX1001 8 months ago
St george was a roman Arab - he came from the roman province of Syria Palestinia (135CE - 390CE)
rafiqul84 8 months ago 7
dis is so funny
mujyify 10 months ago
Russell Howard is so cool. the 'muslamic infidel' guy is funny too
Sitx1996 10 months ago 29
So the Daily Star is now required reading for the discerning right-on comedian ?
Here's a few made up Starisms that Russell can use in future
An onlooker said,'They were shouting racist abuse at children'.
A disgusted local said, 'They were openly discussing the burning of a mosque.'
A concerned anti-fascist remarked, 'They have come from out of town to create division where none exists.
A tearful pensioner said,' We fought these people in World War 2.'
Russell Daily Star Howard. Cunt.
SonOfTheWhiteDragon 10 months ago
@SonOfTheWhiteDragon why you so pissed for?
collision934 10 months ago
@collision934 I think someone pissed in his can of strongbow.
MonsterMunchAreAce 9 months ago
@SonOfTheWhiteDragon What are you on about?
Evilbob597 10 months ago
The EDL didn’t go to Blackburn to ‘fight anti-fascists’, as Howard hilariously put it. In fact, many ‘anti-fascist’ red fascists went to Blackburn to fight the EDL. But that can only be politically legitimised by calling us ‘racists’ and/or ‘fascists’.
z3r0ness 10 months ago
@z3r0ness
Also, the EDL didn’t ‘fight amongst themselves’ because of this lack of competition. The EDL actually had to fight off a group of Nazis and racists. That’s what actually happened. You’d think that Russell Howard would be happy about that. No. Only middle-class students and student leaders, as well as Trots and hip comedians, are allowed to fight racists and fascists - and they do it for the working class, etc. The ‘thick’ working class can never be trusted to do this for themselves..
z3r0ness 10 months ago
@z3r0ness you're all just a bunch of racists so why don't you just march together so that the real working class (black, white, arab etc.) can unite against you
Montes5900 7 months ago
@Montes5900 well said!!
TheTopper2010 6 months ago
@z3r0ness (I had not heard of this actual group they were figthing)... WHY head to anywhere to fight anyway? There's a difference between 'fight' and 'protest against.' They still fought amongst themselves though. The same happened at the Preston EDL march, when I HEARD them chanting 'Keep St George in my heart, keep me English' ST GEORGE WASN'T EVEN ENGLISH YOU TWATS!
IamMoaningMyrtle 10 months ago 17
@IamMoaningMyrtle
I was at the demo.The reason for the fight was that a Known Neo-nazi was in the croud and during the speeches tommy recognized him and pointed him out and told the police to take him out of the demo. The police didnt do it,so we took it upon ourselves to removed the Nazi scumbag and his mates who then got angry and started throwing fists.We didnt fight back we just restrained them and moved them away from the demo.See it sounds so much worse put as 'fought among themselves'
z3r0ness 10 months ago
@z3r0ness cool story bro...we all know that you're all just a bunch of neo-nazi pricks so i think 'they fought amongst themselves' was apt
Montes5900 7 months ago
@Montes5900
cuul stowie brow!!!11one!!
4chon is legionz!!1
My god, your such a raving faggot. Fuck off kid
z3r0ness 7 months ago
@z3r0ness
I myself am not a national socialist and most neo nazis are complete skinhead nutters but most Brits are completely brainwashed about Nazis and Germany. The honest truth of Germnay will never be written about due to the fact history is written by the victors.
I dislike the EDL for a few simple reasons. They are the same as the UAF. Both sides are funded by jews. The media is run... by jews but most people refuse to look into it.
The EDL has no intellectual leadership.
TikofTok 6 months ago
@TikofTok I think the photos, survivor accounts, and life stories speak for themselves to be quite honest. Unless all the accounts are fake, an entire country lying?
1337isdead 5 months ago
@1337isdead
So swallowing ally apologist propoganda is good? Germany went from a debt ridden degenerate shithole to the most successful country in Europe in under 5 years. They abandoned the international banking central banks, created a new currency and a new system. One without capitalists and communists. It worked and in response the communists, jews and corporates annihilated them. Germany was a dog that was kicked for decades and when it finally stood up, we all shot it and gloated.
TikofTok 4 months ago
@TikofTok That's an interesting revision of history. Except German corporate interests were aligned with the government: Bayer, Allianz, Volkswagen, Siemens, Krupp, I.G. Farben are just some of the privately owned (capitalist) companies which existed under Nazi rule, most of which made bags of money and continue to exist today. None of them were expropriated, in fact their (capitalist) owners would never have supported Hitler (which they did) had he not guaranteed their profits! New system? No.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
It was a technocratic dictatorship where the very best were supported. Unless of course you believe Germany wasn't prosperous after the Nazis took power.
Everyone had work, food, and healthcare while before they wheelbarrowed money to buy milk. It is you revising History to your own ends.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok 'Jews' don't come into it.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Yes it does. Jews declared war on Germany, very openly. In the early 1930s, they used many nations to sanction Germany and destroy German products. It was only after Jewish Domination in Germnay was toppled and replaced by Germanics did the country unify.
Blaming ALL jews was wrong but Jews always grow and gain ower with their ethnocentric neopotism. Are you implying Jews do not own most media, financial and political instutions?
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok Who are these Jews? They are no more nepotistic than other capitalists. When that nepotism isn't as obvious as in the case of 'keeping it in the family', it is far more likely to be related to social privilege (i.e. elite education, particular cultural traits) than ethnicity. What does a Jewish trader have to do with a Jewish barber? Or factory worker? YOU are the one implying that 'Germanic' ownership is in some way superior. It is not!
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Well it is because Germanics have German interests at heart. Jews did not. Jews helped out other Jews. I would not mind Jewish Domination if Jews did a good job. Neither would the Germans. It is not their success I am jealous of, I admire it. I admire their solidarity and intellectualism. But it is a bane to any nation that holds them and allows them to take over.
Are you still denying Jewish control over markets and politics?
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Also, it is directly linked to their ethnicity. Jews help Jews. It's that simple. It's JEewish doctrine.
There are Jews and Gentiles. The Chosen and the goyim. Not all Jews think like this, which is why it is so sad, alot are used. But there is no denying their ability to take control of nations. And that control is a bane.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
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@TikofTok Also, it is directly linked to their ethnicity. Jews help Jews. It's that simple. It's JEewish doctrine
This is pure assertion! Controlling nations? You have not a scrap of evidence to back it up except the confused notion that all Jews are scratching each others backs and have it in for 'gentiles'. The majority of Jews (especially influential ones) are totally secular! Does this mean that I think they're great? No! And I am a Jew myself (an unemployed one at that!) This won't wash.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok What have I said to revise history? I didn't deny German prosperity. The German state was very interventionist in its rush to industrialise, but so were the other major capitalist countries. This does not vindicate the prosecution of Jews and other minorities, of trade unionists and socialists.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Actually, it does. Firstly, calling Germany Capitalist is ridiculous. They were Socialist. They were NATIONAL socialists. It wasnt just a name, it was a politicla ideology that took Marx, Fascism, Socialism to a completely different level. It took 3 superpowers to bring down Germany.
Jews dominated, that domination was a bane, after its removal, the country unified and became prosperous.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok You are still conveniently ignoring the fact that industry remained in private hands and run for profit. If you have a different conception of capitalism to what is conventional, then please explain it. What nonsense that 'Germanics' have 'German' interests at heart. Capitalists are forced by the market to peruse their own material interests in order to stay in business. Any ideology which thinks there is a unified 'national interest' has learned literally NOTHING from Marx.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg 'Jew' is an irrelevant category! There is no particularly 'Jewish' interest that drives the actions of companies and institutions that have Jews sitting on the board of directors. Your political opinions are warped by ethnic nationalism which is based on myth and superstition (hence your view that all Germanic Germans have the same interests in common). This is a fairytale.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Yes there is. Of course there is. My own Jewish politicans demand funding for Israel, Jewish schools while sending kids to Auchwitz. Everything it does benefits Israel or Jews. Why are 139 of the top 400 richest people in the world Jewish? Out of the top 50, 20 are Jewish.
They are the smallest minority in the world yet they run central banks, the IMF, Media, politics and finances.
How? Was it magic?
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok Not magic but there is a historical reason why Jews were more likely to be in finance, and such trades, as in the past they have been denied employment in other areas and denied the right to own property. I disagree on Germany being socialist - any system based on private property and private ownership & control of the means of production is capitalist. Some control was taken by the state, but it did not interfere with profit accumulation. Same capitalists remained after Nazi regime!
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
It wasn't private. It was government owned and government permission was needed. The Soviets had almost exactly the same economic plans. They simply differed on social planning. Why is profit a problem in a world where capital is needed? Did the Germans not do well?
There was a reason that Jews were denied such things. It is because they do it in every nation they live. They were kicked out or persecuted in over 100 nations. Yet you dont wonder why?
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok You're confused guy, because I consider myself a socialist! I support planned economies. That does not mean that I support the Nazis, nor that I reject all their policies, but I see no need to rehabilitate them. You do, apparently, because of YOUR obsession with Jews. Democracy is an important ingredient for socialism (democratic control of the means of production) - nepotism emerges when an elite has disproportionate power - regardless of ethnicity or nationality!
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
And if you cared about democracy then why not allow people to make democratic decisions? Many countries do not want foreigners, nor do they want socialism. I am not an ideologist, certain systems work better depending on the culture and enviroment. You fail to admit that ELITE with the disproportionate power are Jews.
That is a fact. They are the smallest population in the world yet they own a vast slice of the world wealth and thats not even mentioning Rothschild.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
You are assuming alot about me without knowing who I am.
If I made the same assumptions, I would claim you are Jewish. Mainly due to your continual defense of their neopotism, denial of their group ethnocentrism and the fact that most non jews ignore arguments about Germany. Jews really hate the Nazis.
Some do not. That takes an enormous amount of courage.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok I have not said a single thing in defence of nepotism. Neither have I made assumptions about 'who you are' - I am merely responding to your arguments which are ideologically ethnocentric and nationalist (and therefore flawed)
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
As are yours. Your own Jewishness clouds your ideology as does your obsession with socialism and the very thought that Nazi was socialistic turns you off. Deal with it, they adopt the ideology and moulded it. And the worse part is it worked. Unlike the Soviets who were a failure, hated by their people. Germans loved their government.
Germnay is the only marx influenced nation that truly worked until it was destroyed.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok Did trade unionists, gypsies, Jews, socialists, liberals and democrats love their government? And yet they were German, no matter Nazi (and your) attempts to exclude them.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
''your attempts'' What?
Trade unionists were seen as communists as were liberals and socialists. They were not nationalists. Communism and National Socialism differ on their social ideals and their reasoning behind their ideology. Plus, they sympathised with the Soviets who were Germany' enemy.
Jews were excluded from controlling media and other important places up until 39. If you were not a communist sympathiser, you were unharmed.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok I do not hate Germans or German advances. Likewise, there is no system I 'love' (not Israel, not the US not the Soviet Union). What I despise, is people who think it's okay to persecute somebody for their politics, beliefs or ethnicity. Germany would have gone the same way as all other capitalist nations or collapsed as it impossible to build socialism in one country in a world economy.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Especially a world economy run by Jews who declare war on Germany. Socialism will always fail, it's open to interpretation and usually corrupt to the core. The modern egalitarian fairyland world socialist live in is a perfect eutopia where nothing can go wrong. The irony is that they call themselves democratic then get pissy when Humans act like Humans and dmand territory and a homogenus society with mono culturalism. Society rejects it.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Secondly, it is based upon the idea all Humans are equal. They are not. We are not the same, as individuals, as cultures, as nations, as people, as races and as humans. That will never change. That is why Nat Soc was a better system, it followed a natural system. It spent like crazy but controlled the population in its own benefit.
Aboriginals for instance simply have not got the same capability as say East Asians.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
How does your eutopia fit that in? It can't. I am not a National Socialist. I sympathise with it but I prefer Liberty within my borders and I prefer to keep others out of my borders unless they benefit my nation.
But this can never happen while Jews dominate the system. Nationalism or Liberty. Neither can be achieved when Jews do everything they can to stop it. Deny it all you want, they have the power and they will do anything to maintain it.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok You are the utopian here - where did I say anything about correcting all the world's ills? It is you who thinks the world's ills would be corrected if only the Jews stopped controlling everything and nationalism was allowed to flourish. Monoculture you say, except what gives priority to one culture over another, when there are multiple national cultures, not all split on ethnic lines. You see culture and human behaviour in black and white, I am no match for your logical fallacies.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
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@mschneiderg
More glorious assumptions. Of course there is one defining culture, based upon the laws of the land and the people who make them. Multi Culturalism is impossible, different cultures have different values and ideals. Opposing cultures cannot unite.
I did not say the worlds ills would be corrected but without that domination, changes can be made for the better and they will not change until that domination is toppled.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
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@mschneiderg
You can keep claiming I have logical fallacies but you make broad naive assumptions based upon your concrete socialist beliefs. They have no basis in fact or History. Plus, you are deeply Jewish and like I said, that blinds you.
Different systems work for different cultures and enviroments. Jewish Domination does not help, it hinders. How can people live self determined when Jews control their lives?
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
I could also ask the same of the Soviets who murdered many, many millions. They starved the Ukranians in the Holodomor. They massacred christians in the Russia. Russians hated their government.
One of the biggest and msot disgusting mistakes the Nazis made was the treatment of slavs. They could have made them allies... Ukraine hated Russia. They could have easily unified Eastern Europe like they did in Bulgaria and Romania.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@TikofTok I have been entirely consistent in my arguments. You claim that German ownership overcomes capitalist relations (i.e. dynamic between the working class and the ruling class) which it doesn't. This is why your 'socialism' is nothing of the sort. The German state had considerable control over industry but it did not govern in the interests of workers - it tried to negotiate a consensus between workers and capitalists, but suppressed strikes and trade unionism. Hence: nationalist!
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Of course it had the interests of the workers. They had healthcare, food and employment. As I said. They took the system you love, mouleded it and made it work. That is what you detest. If not for the destruction of Germany by the allies, who knows how far the Germans would have grown? Their scientific advances are still used today.
You simpy hate it because it succeeded where all other socialists have failed.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg By the way, it isn't 'Jewish interests' that are the driving force behind US support for the state of Israel, but US national interests! Israel is a strategic ally for the US as it is a way for it to exert influence and control of the region and it resources. Hence Jewish lobbies for Israel get financial support, pro-Palistinian groups such as Jews For Justice get none.
mschneiderg 3 weeks ago
@mschneiderg
Industry remained with the permission of government. The Soviet system was very similar to the Nazi system. Of course they were run for profit with the inclusion of giving work, food and healthcare to the people while arming the nation.
Germany was not capitlaist, it was socialist, similar to Russia except with a focus on social conservatism and ethnic pride.
You can keep claiming Nazis weren't socialist. They were. Government controlled everything.
TikofTok 3 weeks ago
@IamMoaningMyrtle
Also, St George's emblem was adopted by Richard The Lion Heart and brought to England in the 12th century. The king's soldiers wore it on their tunics to avoid confusion in battle. Its a important part of English history.
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