Hidden Hand, Self Proclaimed Illuminati Insider

[tiano1965]

they are not aliens just evil greedy people..good news God wins

[orange70383]

Yo yous right it was a good harvest, got some a dat sticky icky icky stuff and now I be crossin them dementional planes like soap on duck-billed plat-a-puss B.

[BinAlladin]

I can for sure tell you that this is not fake,I know be personal experience and the family I´m born in is also part of this structure,so listen to this carefully and try to learn when opportunity is available !

[zezt]

WHY should you trust him/her?

Isn't it true these people belong to SECRET societies, and the higher ups dont even tell the lowerd downs whats what. So is it likely one of them would come on a forum and blurt out all the hidden shit? NO

And all this stuff about ET origins. THAT is a sure indication this is disinfo because the elite LOVE to put out myths that they originate from ETs etc. In this way they can make out they are the 'master race'. See thru this crap!

[natcupcakes]

@jamalman1 I guess it's all in how one interprets the Bible.

[dfstarborn]

Down through history the papacy of the Vatican have assassinated many a king who would not hand over his countries sovereignty to the pope and this is going on today for instance the queen of England is a Knight of Malta a branch of the Vatican but yet to the media she is portrayed as a protestant, Tony Blair formerly a protestant is now main speaker for the UN and is now a Catholic and what 40 foot statue can you find in Brussels yes its one of the Pope, make no mistake the Vatican rules 2day

[dfstarborn]

People please don't fall for this new age bull shit there are no aliens only demons they are the fallen ones, please study the Jesuits, Knights of Malta and all the branches of the Vatican, please study they're role today and they're role down through history.

Everything they do is to blaspheme God sovereignty and liberty your constitution was created by men who understood sovereign law and it was based on the morals of the ten commandments to protect us from satanic communist ideas n slavery.

[alishagaub]

There are only two types of people, those who worship God and those who un/conciously worship Satan. World Leaders were long ago corrupted by the Illumanati advancing their Satanic Agenda. They are going to answer to God as is every man who ever stepped foot on God's green earth. BTW, Jesus Christ is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords, that is already established prophecy.

[Mengele4444]

@alishagaub The Assyrians transformed your religion into monotheism, Abraham was a fake and Jesus was deluded since his birth due to people of Nazareth filling crap in his ear. Your god is just a leftover of polytheistic Canaanites! As well as the idea of a Satan or evil lord sprung from the early Persians! Do the history if you dare. Or do you have the balls to drop the cross for one second in your leashed life!? Huh? Come on holier than thou let's see you overstep your boundaries! Whelp!

[alishagaub]

@Mengele4444

A simple repeatable test always provides the following results. In the first 2 books of the Torah/Old Testament, count 5+2 and circle. Last 2 books, count 7-2 and circle. In the middle book, count 7 and circle. Each and every Hebrew character circled (thousands) will spell the middle book, Torah...... over and over and over. The pattern can not be duplicated by a modern author, using a computer and word processing. What compels you to publicly display your ignorance?

[verbalswordsman]

@alishagaub I would like to no more of this code you speak of?

[caketaker14]

regardless of whether you believe this or not i think alot of what was said by "the insider" is very very true and i actually thought of alot of what he said before as my own beliefs,i just didnt have a way of putting it in a smart way to understand. i personally think its a very very good read but i dont believe in it fully! why would the infinite creater set us up on a game where we go basically up and down in levels? we are all one but we dont want hurt or pain so whats with the grading ?

[jamalman1]

What I don't understand is ... why 95% evil and 51% good?? why not 95% good and 51 % evil ??? I know the devil is a liar and the biggest twist to me seems to be that you could almost do as much evil 49% that is and 51% good and be in a positive harvest??? nah... I don't get that... We all know nobody is perfect so I believe the twist here is that 51% good.. ,is weak and not enough in the eyes of God but 95% good, is good in Gods eyes and 51 % evil is more that half...that is bad in Gods eyes.

[MaffyMoose]

51% evil? he never says that! he means service towards others over service to yourself.

Think of service to yourself as Half(50%) and to others also as half(50%) if you put others before yourself, then this percentage is going to be 51%-100%, towards service to others, NOT 51% evil....Evil? really? is this what the text says to you?, please re-read it..it deserves to be understood, and you shouldn't be this confused about the meanings of the percentages.

[mageslol]

I read a couple sessions of the Hidden Hand

And i must say I can see some truths in what he says

but it seems Anti-Christish

There seems to be an Evil twist to everything he says

[herndog2usmc]

copy and paste this to the youtube search engine..... In order to see the Truth, First we must see the Lie (5/7: Beyond Good vs Evil Series) ....it should help understand better the content within the hidden hand thread...good luck

[SimOfDark]

This information changed my life.

[calabro3169]

love this song whats it called ?

[dgsh1957]

i am sticking with my bible and with jeuse, said there will be false leaders .

[dgsh1957]

fallen angels are on earth to mislead us and turn us to the false god who is satan . hidden_hand is here to take souls and and remember god the father in heaven said .... they will be thrown into hell fire when jesus return . read the bible and stay close to god .

[jamalman1]

@dgsh1957 (((...read the bible and stay close to god . ...))) The devil trying to trick and deceive people with some percentile crap.... the devil is lying to ya'll 51 percent evil will take you to hell not heaven. 95 % good will take you to heaven I believe God will forgive 5% evil cuz man is not perfect... the devil with his false crap trying to promote as little good as possible 51% ....yeah right he needs companion ...misery loves company . It's bullshit the devil is lying.

[natcupcakes]

@jamalman1 I read his entire thread on ATS. I was raised reading and learning the KVJ Bible and a lot of what he said actually seemed to go hand in hand with it. HH never said we should be evil to others, instead, he said there must exist a catalyst to the positive in life. Otherwise we cannot make a choice. If you follow the Bible, then you know the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the earliest catalyst. Regardless of his intentions, he said nothing evil, he said to love one another(cont)

[jamalman1]

@natcupcakes(((... was raised reading and learning the KVJ Bible and a lot of what he said actually seemed to go hand in hand with it...)) No sorry to inform you but it doesn't at all ..It says in the Bible " what fellowship has light with darkness.." what is being said by this illuminist is a clever contradiction.. ...  (((..then you know the tree of knowledge of good and evil was the earliest catalyst...))) The tree of knowledge was a command that was disobeyed by man not a catalyst sorry.

[MrDwhite538]

@jamalman1 Please contact me. I'd like to discuss more on this with you. I need to discuss this with someone else who knows and understands the bible. respond to my response an It will send me an email. We can go from there. Thank you. I look forward to hearing from you.

[jamalman1]

@MrDwhite538 Alright if you wanna discuss it some more send me a P.M or leave a comment on my channel and I'll get back at you ... Sorry for the delay ...haven't been hear in a while...

[natcupcakes]

@jamalman1 ..and practice the "golden rule" essentially. Do unto others as you would have done unto you. That doesn't particularly go against the Bible.

[HSUniversal]

I would like to hear anyone else's interpretation on the matter. I found at least 4 mistakes and they are mistakes caused by human error. Missing a letter either shows a hurried state of mind, an unfocused state of mind or a "not in the moment" at that exact moment state of mind. This makes no sense if this entity is a sixth dimension or density being. I'm not sure what to think.

Wisdom is in there, though the observation of it as a whole seems skeptical.

[HSUniversal]

And now, I'm actually seeing other typos. Some letters in a word aren't capitalized (like the first one) and he/she spelled lose "loose" on accident? I don't know, hard to depict when there are mistakes from a supposedly near-perfect dimensional creator.

[HSUniversal]

You know, this was all very, very believable because on psychedelics, meditation times and other spiritual activities I have felt many of what the presence said. The complexity, plan, different states and presences in dimensions, and basically all of it.

However, many of it is new to me and although it does make sense, I somehow feel a presence as high up as he claims he is, wouldn't make a typo, especially in such an intense discussion. "same ones who visited the the Civilization of Atlantis"

[WoodlandRavah]

Reading his messages, I may be an atyhrist but we have to remain possitive, be faithfull in where you'll go if anywhere when you die. He's just attacking the spiritual/new age/anti conspiracy groups the only way one can, misinformation.

I find this bastards writing disturbing, if this is the way the universe works then I say we satrt a galactic revolution! PLUR bit@#es!

[WoodlandRavah]

"Souls are Harvestable in either 'extreme' of the Polarities, one could say."

Good thing I have both PLUR and Sith within me.

[downy62]

If there are outside forces they are from satan. I believe in God the Father, his Son Jesus Christ and the Holy spirit. What ever happens in this world, this time has to come and pass according to His will! Put all your trust in Him and you will not be afraid of what is coming. Jesus is your only answer!!

[burchified]

I think Hidden Hand may be Nicholas Haywood from "Bloodline".

[CMO999]

This person is very intelligent and interesting.  I don't believe what he says literally, and I don't think that is the point.

[gatekeeper96740]

This is the same new age nonsense I have heard from Channelers for 35 years.

Read the Beatiful side of evil and find out who the liar and the father of lies is. They had me fooled for awhile and now I fight to stop them.

[MaffyMoose]

@gatekeeper96740

But again, you yourself are basing what you believe on something you read(which is fine) but this in itself is simply nothing more than concious thoughts of your own right?

[reuch09]

The ONLY question that i have, b/c HH rings true to me, is whether our individual polarity is judged upon the souls entire body of work or only this incarnation. Since we have been in the cycle for 26000 some odd years I would think that judgement would be upon the entire body, especially given that a particular incarnation could be severely influenced by circumstance or simply by total lack of experience in this life - ie children...wish someone would have asked that question.

[CMO999]

He explained quite clearly several times that everything balances out and that every soul eventually finds its way home.

[reuch09]

HH says that the bloodline which represents Lucipher must achieve 95% negative, but that is only for them not the entire harvest. They must spread almost complete negativity through their actions as passed down through the lower bloodlines. This was agreed catalyst to provide humanity the "test" it needed for it to be able to learn from the polarity. Humanity can produce whatever % negative/positive but they will fufill their contract regardless if they achieve 95% negative.

[Jackie113thedarkness]

It makes perfectly sense indeed. There is no way JAHVE would be god of solar system or even galatic logos...it is too human like. REgardless position, it is us"our creator" and creator of life on this planet.

[stiggyh]

@reuch09 "hidden hand" = insane !!!

[123chaseh]

oi all this is crap yea listen,, they sayin the ones who get left behind will carry on with there lives and forget wot happens, so it will b like nothing has happened at all,, they say this because nothin is gona happen its all stupid crap, if it wos true millions ov ppl r jus gona dissapeare,, if u believe anythin these ppl say u r just az stupid az them

[CMO999]

Well, no matter what anyone says or does online, there are always people saying negativity like this, and they always type this way, without bothering to spell out words or use grammar.

[ChankaLanka]

Explain this... Team Lucifer needs a negative harvest so that we transition over to a higher collective consciousness/fourth dimension... However, we won't transition unless we have 90% positivity?? WTF! that is a total nonsense paradox! I can't believe people fall for this BS.

[AxiomaticObserver]

You got it all wrong.

[MaffyMoose]

@ChankaLanka

firstly its 95% and he says not to take everything for gospel, like we do with other texts. Read between the lines, stand back and look at bigger picture like he says. Understand the "laws" he talks bout within the text. we are supposed to figure stuff out for ourselves true, but this isn't what the message was about. Its about being good to others and ensuring a positive harvest for yourself.

This is something everyone should be "falling" for, but we don't ,get me?

[calmmint]

thank u for pointing me in the direction to reading this article it was very enlightening to read the concept of the bigger picture of spirituality. does 2012 mark the end of our physical being on earth? why does HH insist on a negative harvest? why do the negative entities get to move on to 4th density? n the lukewarm get left behind? this seems puzzling, reward the really bad n good n those that arent that bad get the bad have to repeat 3rd density life cycle all over again!

[AxiomaticObserver]

You are confusing yourself.

[belikejames]

no i'm not

[belikejames]

It's one of the most intelligent things I have ever studied, and its hard to keep up. I just know that there's no way this doctrine ties in with What Christ taught us. A lot of it has truth, but in the end deceiving people that a negative harvest is a good thing.

[belikejames]

I found the article months ago. I read it 3 times, it took me weeks. I believe it to be some doctrine of the Illuminati religion. I think its evil portrayed as good. Does Jesus really want a negative harvest? No, he wants people to repent and come unto him. The insider is quick on there feet to answer because its a religion and theirs answers for everything when you make a religion out of something. How else are you going to convince a group of people that killing everybody is a good thing?

[Jackie113thedarkness]

Think for moment, without them(illuminati, controllers). prophecies of bible wouldnt be possible....so it leaves only one conclusion, so called lucifer group is working with Jahve god of bible. Or they are in service of him.

[DHYANJON]

Most won't understand, those that are luke warm will find their way to another earth replica to repeat. As it was noted s/he is channeling the Lucifer collective, this is why the information flows so fluently. Their role is to create an environment of great negativity on this earth which will provide the perfect backdrop for mankind to turn its attention 180 degrees & look inwards to find the real treasure. The Roths and Rockfellas are not aware of it but are also used to make this come about.

[AxiomaticObserver]

Il vechicco sentiero é vicino

[stiggyh]

@DHYANJON HH is insane ! 

[joelaroint1]

30 comments excedes limit? WTF!!!!!!

[butlincat]

supriem rockefeller

[joshuamichael]

I am just amazingly shocked that people actually fall for this junk time and time again. Keep going though, you can only cry wolf so many times before people stop listening. So cry away.

[AscendedOne2012]

That's fine.

It is only yourself you are affecting.

[StickyAnus]

people like you dont agree with these facts, becuase your scared of the fact that others have been controlling your kind. You probably dont think Jews run hollywood.

[joshuamichael]

Yawn....Please save us from the evil. What ever will we do without hero's like you? You are the only one who really knows the "real" truth. I really have to thank you for saving us in the most economical way possible: One Youtube comment at a time. Yawn........

[StickyAnus]

"yawn" ? how old are you? go read a book you dumb fuck and you'd realise....

starting with the BIBLE... which comes from the MIDDLE EAST.

[joshuamichael]

Ooh...um...come backs are not your strong suit I see. It's o.k. little guy, you just need a bigger helmet when you hit your head from now on. Now run along...the grown ups are speaking.

[Kadzait1]

Come backs? Doesnt even look like he was trying to offend you. You were offending him.

I'm not surprised that a ordinary person that listens to the media would shoot this stuff down in an instant and treat people that think like dirt.

The bible did come from the middle east and your just going to sit there and tell him he got hit in the head? Lol. Your so focused on insults then information.

Eh well, I dont really care about this stuff. I'm looking forward to your next insult, to me.

[Kadzait1]

Evil exposed is evil known which is evil that is stopped.

and yes he will save us because he is our hero.

[joelaroint1]

Millions know the truth!!!!!

You'll only be able to reject it for so long and time is getting short!!!!!

JESUS IS LORD!!!!!!!!

[AxiomaticObserver]

Time is not getting short.

[Load1Bongs1Not1Guns]

It is so cool

[ancestralblue]

We have to face our fears, embrace and overcome and then create a new vision for ourselves. One that sees every situation as an opportunity to advance the Spirit. One that chooses love over fear. One that does not back off and run away from the lesson. Then we fuse with what we feared in love and bring new life. That's everything about us and this "hidden hand" can be just another part of that lesson. Such messages can be stimulus to find our fears and heal them with love.

[ancestralblue]

I saw the abovetopsecret interview and this I can tell you. What 's happening right now can be viewed in a lot of ways but, here's how I personally see it. It's an EXERCIZE. Everything about us calls for learning to push ourselves past certain limits to achieve mastery and all the current events in the world are calling for us to do just that. The focus is in particular on the INSIDE. We have to become aware of our negatives and address them with love energy. cont'd

[Lesshardtofind]

It is definitely strange but I dont' think it should be anything more than a catalyst for you to want to be better to others. Who cares about ourselves it is the greater good that should be achieved. Teaching acceptance of each other and harmony. Don't attack others because their beliefs aren't yours. Accept what is beautiful about all of us. The cumulation of our free will creates a beautiful world if we could live in it together with harmony. Love. Remember to Love :o)

[Lesshardtofind]

therefore leading towards his ultimate (negative harvest). There is nothing in his information that seems much more than something that could be developed by a human mind. Philisophicly I have pondered almost all of the concepts he showed us. The oneness. The fact that in order to create there has to be a beginning of infinite energy in order to not defy the conservation of matter. So our creator extended his energy to us therefore we are him and he is us. We live on his "body" if you will

[zephead67]

I like ur thoughts, my friend! But you do seem a tad confused by all of this.... First off, I'm going to point out that I am for the Positive Harvest of souls.... and the Reptile [yes, the person who was interviewed is not from this planet, but it's a reptilian, a being of mainly negative energy... So, his job on the planet is to make us realize that we are being tricked, because in order for them to escape another cycle on Earth, they need to fool us... But we cannot let that happen, So LOVE!!

[Lesshardtofind]

it was strange to me how no one addressed that if his ultimate goal was a negative harvest and he serves the side of (service to self) than wouldn't his service to us only be because it would be a catalyst to serving himself. Therefore wouldn't the majority of his information be disinformation in order to lead the majority of intellectual souls on the website in the wrong direction (service to self) so that we would utilize our intellect in misleading others for him/her

[zephead67]

well, that's an interesting point... This reptile may be servicing himself, but somehow, someone told him to tell us that we have to Love one another, so that we HAVE to make a Conscious choice to Love or to hate. If we believe in the power of their lies, we have made the choice to live in Negativity [fear, hate, etc.], but if we Rise above and Spread the Love, we will force them into another cycle of life, and their spirits will be trapped... They just want you 2 believe in their negative power

[Jackie113thedarkness]

I think you can achiave ascension or rising above by service of self as well. Sometimes you can serve yourself yet serve greater plan at the same time. It is not that simple.

[jamalman1]

@Lesshardtofind((.. than wouldn't his service to us only be because it would be a catalyst to serving himself. Therefore wouldn't the majority of his information be disinformation in order to lead the majority of intellectual souls on the website in the wrong direction (service to self)...)))It's purely disinformation ...the devil mixing truths with great lies to sound true .... the devil is only serving himself like you rightfully noted. The world needs no evil good does not need a catalyst

[Lesshardtofind]

@jamalman1 Honestly I wouldn't even like to give the devil credit for this. This is the work of a man. A man who uses his god given gifts of intellect to decieve and mislead. The only concern this gives me is the number of confused souls who will eat this up and think. Oh Lucifer isn't bad he's just doing his job. I think what really concerned me was the guy who "swore" he was part of the Queztcotl (spelled wrong sorry) group. The fact that so many of us are confused about the reasons

[jamalman1]

@Lesshardtofind ..((.Honestly I wouldn't even like to give the devil credit for this. This is the work of a man. A man who uses his god given gifts of intellect to decieve and mislead. ..)) .. Well I sort of agree with you but the devil works through man. Men who open up to him just like God works through men. The devil is a spirit and man who align themselves with the devil will have the devil in them. This alignment takes many names such as Possession, Channeling , alignment and so forth.

[MaffyMoose]

@jamalman1

51% is simply 1 more than half and half. 51% and up is a simple way of looking at "one for me, two for you" 

If you wake up in the morning and want pancakes for yourself, you make them and enjoy them(service to self) But if you then ask your brothers or sisters what they would like and prepare it for them,(service to others) then you are well over the 51% you need to be...you follow?

[MaffyMoose]

@jamalman1

Simply apply this to your everyday life(which is what Jesus taught) and you'll be fine.

Please don;t feel im having a go at you here, i'm not :)

I just want people to understand the point of the whole message and not get caught up with the concepts of good and evil, these are simply nothing more than thought forms of the mind and what each person perceives them to be.

Much love to you

[Lesshardtofind]

@jamalman1 reasons for their own existence that they are willing to listen to any answer someone else gives them. I don't need everyone to believe in God for me to do so, but I would just prefer to see people making these decisions based on what is right in their hearts and not the best picture decievers can paint. The truth is in YOUR heart never forget that. Never doubt yourself to the point that you think you NEED these others to lead you right.

[UnslaveMee]

I'm sure life and death have many secrets. As much as we would like to believe portions of this illuminati insider's story, I'll stick with my bible.

For one thing - why the forum? What a strange venue for such a big story.

Just thought I would let you know my thoughts. I was enchanted, and gave it some time .. now I'm disenchanted with it all. :) The truth shines through!

[UnslaveMee]

Also, I've found the name hidden hand has been used many times before .. including a 1942 thriller movie. I haven't been able to watch it yet, but I will.

[International0001]

it was a cool enough story for me to read it all also cool enough to have ppl asking questions about existence for days.

[UnslaveMee]

Yes it was definately good reading .. I think I will read it again plus check out the comments by the other forum members.

[International0001]

where do you find the majority of your videos if you don't mind me asking?

[UnslaveMee]

This one I made .. depends which one your referring to. I make a lot :)

[International0001]

yeah well moreso the nwo exposing videos. i would like to start compiling lots of those type of vids, i guess the news clips and stuff like that. but i would like them in the original quality form. as i am sure most ppl know that youtube loses the quality by compressing the video.

[skibee50]

Yes I agree as with most elaborate stories there are more questions than answers Do you have to die to be harvested? Will the world be full of zombies with no souls? What does make total sense is we have a creator and our creator gave us the freedom of choice and I choose to believe my creator does not want harvest negativity. HH and I are not from the same soul group His Lucifer should have a bountiful harvest!

[ChristyNiNe]

@UnslaveMee

1) I think they would use an obscure forum because the answers must be desired, searched for. It cannot be handed down on a platter and believed as so despite evidence (such as the believers of the bible do, I myself the daughter of a christian pastor and ex bible follower, but seeker of the Christ mind as Jesus actually taught).

[MaffyMoose]

@ChristyNiNe

H_H could only do this on ONE single occasion. ATS(above top secret) would have been a likely and sensible choice(platform) to relay this message. And an enlightening one it is too. folks should read this, even if they choose not to take any note, It should be read either way.

[ChristyNiNe]

@MaffyMoose I wholly agree. I had already come to the Alpha-Omega understadning of the illusory polarities of Lucifer as evil and YodhayVodway as good to a unified understanding of the catalyst of consciousness expansion that is ALWAYSE in unconditional love at its highest level when I found HH.

I was begining to think no info out there like my understandings existed... and then HH blew open an ever further door... refining my knowing. Now I have been ...

[ChristyNiNe]

@MaffyMoose 2) ...gifted with a physical Arc of the Covenant to directly connect me to Source and activate my mission of First Contact Graound Crew. We are coming here from other dimensions in the human form now, but the birth process still creates anmesia due to the mercury in the birth injections. Thankfully those effects have now been superceeded by my own higher frequencies<3 I KNOW HH to be true... there is a small area where his ...

*ALWAYS

[ChristyNiNe]

@MaffyMoose 3)... understanding has been sheilded though & will play out differently. I cannot remember exactly what it is... I'd have to read back through it as I read it many many months ago.

Infinite Unconditional Love & Light to YOU & ALL<3

[ChristyNiNe]

@UnslaveMee

2) The search is integral as it allows you to see God's Divine flow of consciousness and synchronicity. God cannot be understood by reading a book, but a lifetime of books and EXPERIENCE... in fact INFINITE lifetimes!

[EMPIRE0FLIES]

That was lucifer alright, the great deceiver. What a winey little punk. Christ has his days numbered.

[hermbilliamherm18]

not sure about extra terrestrial...ill check it out but dont think i believe in aliens...

[chickenegge]

i think at soul level, he is originate from extra terrestrial.

[stammeringlips]

I don't believe there was an atlantis. The gy admitts over and over, that he's not high up enough to know things. He predicts dates and times and uses the Mayan Calender. Bogus. If this guy is going to pursue beyond 33rd degree he is prince hall, only has higher degrees. he talks like he was ordered to come tell us a message. I don't bye the Extratesterials, so I' don't buy this at all because these men worhship wood, stone and each other. Satan himself is somwhere else on the totem.

[mungcray]

could be true. but consider the source. deception is telling you the truth while lying to you.

[truthseekr4life]

Love the song, and the message. Great video. Now off to read the whole article.  Fav'ed.

[rumpelstillskin65]

jesus is coming are you ready

[International0001]

several typos and spelling mistakes from hidden hand.

[Clockworkforest]

Seriously, I could perpetrate this hoax easy as pie.

[flippinrawks]

Hi Unslavemee, imagine a big fat kissy-face treatment.

because thats what you just got in my mind!

[UnslaveMee]

Is that a good thing? lol!

[nwosigns]

Interesting. I remember reading it in Saviors of Earth as well as on ATS. I also read it somewhere else, can't recall where.

The answers are quite unique, and "enlightened" if you will. However, as a person of faith I recall that many will come to deceive.

So, it's worth reading, if anything to understand some of what they think, but in the end, faith and truth wins.