@TDiGP The F1 of 2005 had about 800-900 BHP, not a 1000. Yes, the cars could do 0-100 km/h in 1.5 seconds but definitely go to 370 km/h easily at Monza. Formula cars are not geared for high speeds like that. They were geared max for 340-350 km/h.
@TDiGP You are a spook. With 1000hp at the rear wheels with no weight on the wheels they can get next to no power down straight away. Dont quote me on this but i reckon a f1 car would be faster from 100-200n km/h than it would be from 0-100 km/h
No bloody race car, production car or any car for that matter can beat an F1! God, if you think that then well your stupid. Nothing can handle as well as an F1, nothing can have acceleration as quick as an F1.
@andreveiguinha Veyron 0-60 is 2.46 seconds.. about the same as a Ducati 1198 superbike. An F1 gets 0-60 in 1.7 seconds and does 0-300kmh in 8.6 seconds. The veyron does 0-300kmh in 15sec. An F1 car dominates a veyron in every category except top speed in which the fastest veyron clocked is only about 10mph faster than the fastest F1 speed ever clocked.
The Veyron is a hideous car, and it's shite around corners for a car of it's status. Besides the Renault R24 can go around the Top Gear test track in 59 seconds, the Veyron SS in 1:16.8, so piss off whoever claimed that the Veyron is faster.
just to solve things, F1 is not top end fastest, but is one of the fastest RWD race cars on acceleration and cornering, also if you want to race an F1 car against another car that any of you think that will beat it, i dont think so, because the F1 car will not be in FIA rules and these manufacturers can easily make these cars go over 1000hp, just by simply using bigger engines and turbo's, so for a something on acceleration and cornering, you cant beat an F1 car.
accelerating topspeed and come around corners. in all of 3 points would f1 own a veyron. AND ssc ultimate aero fucks the veyron so who is veyron omg .. i hate that car.
All you people talking about Veyron's are retarded!!! The Veyron was something that VW came up with to make a quick few billion cause they knew all these over paid assholes in the world would pay whatever they asked!!! Its a stupid car for stupid people!!! I would love to see someone push that thing through corners!! You know why you dont see that, CAUSE YOU CANT DO IT!!!!
@craigg1981 check fifth gear or top gear. Tiff and Stig both have. The veyron ss is now the fastest var on the top gear board. Think the older veyron was 3rd or 4th fastest.
@KS873081 Yea, on tracks that have mile long straights were it can stretch its legs! Big deal, you put this thing on the Nurburgring and the only place its going to be fast is the last tenth of the track where that like 1.7 mile straight is! Around a real road course, a tuner car would beat that piece!!
@craigg1981 I agree man. All I meant was the veyron can be driven properly if the driver is up to it. Like the stig or tiff. Although many much less expensive cars would be faster. Check top gear man. Veyron SS is the fastest round their track but before the SS the veyron was 7th behind Gumpert, Ascari, Koenigsegg, Noble, Zonda, Caterham. All less expensive motors. Then when u take the ultima gtr, caparo t1, fxx and dbr9 there is no comparison. Tuned motors will kick veyrons ass on a track.
A Veyron may achieve (and may go beyond) the speed of an F1 car but in acceleration, deceleration/braking, cornering, it cannot beat F1. Whether in circuit track or a straight line, the Veyron just can't beat an F1.
Eventhough this clips was shot quite a couple of years ago.. it still shows us mere mortals how fantastic top of the line human engineering on a tuned combustion engine can be! It's exactly why men go see the formula 1 races: there's simply no comparison.. and something to experience on the spot. Even when you're a dad, you can hear your own silent amazement coming out of your kids mouth when the F1 passes. "Wow"! 2 huge grins on the sideline. Life as it should be! That stuff is priceless!
Now the Champ Cars from the late engine competition era...I read last year some qualifying record had been set at Milwaukee by IRL and noted it woulda been good for 6th on the grid in 1998. Those 240mph laps at Fontana were impressive. Bear in mind those monsters had 200 more horsepower than an IRL car. Compare the Montreal lap times between Champ Car and F1.The performance differential is enormous. And a champ car was built to race on road and street courses-unlike those IRL barges.
During F1s first year at Indy I believe it was the Arrows team that goofed around with a low downforce setup in practice and set 230mph trap speeds. The lap time was horrendous and that car gave up at least 100hp to the BMW or Ferrari. That BAR Honda had almost 1000 hp and weighed 1100 lbs. How can anyone with above an 8th grade education claim a 700hp car that weighs 1500 lbs is faster? Especially when the technology is all in the F1 cars favor?
Simple physics. A Formula 1 Car of the V-10 era had more horsepower and weighed hundreds of pounds less than an Indy car. Compare lap times at Montreal between the late Champ Car series and F1. Or Detroit 1988- CART removed a chicane and were still slower. F1 cars run high down force set ups. The McLaren Mercedes regularly hit 225-230mph at the old Hockenheim ring set up. By this Indy is faster para-logic logic my Civic is faster because they only average 88mph at Monaco!
I've always thought about a Veyron vs a Formula 1 race car. I got the stats as a Veyron doing 0 - 160km/h in 5.5 seconds. The formula 1 race car does 0 - 160km/h, and then back to 0km/h in UNDER 5 SECONDS!!!
ferrari f 2004 (910hp and one of the fastest of all times) reached 0-100 in less than 2 sec, 0-200 in 3,8 and 0-300 in 8,7-8,9sec average..it depended on downforce..
A formula ! car can make a tight corner, such as Suzuka's 130R at incredible speed, with lateral G-forces of up to 6g, I doubt an 8000bhp drag car could make the turn at all, never mind at such incredible speeds. Dragsters are brilliant, there is nothing in the world like them, but they cannot be compared to F1.
I'm from the Uk, so obviously F1 is more popular over here. But British people seriously need to give indy a chance, The average speed of an indy car at Indianapolis motorspeed way, is 30 mph faster than an F1's top speed.
Indy couldn't keep up with F1 on a more technical track, but that's the point, they're not designed to compete against eachother.
So I do the right thing and watch Indy lights and GP2, slightly less speed, all of the excitement and oh so many crashes.
???????? nowadays f1 is terribly boring,it's true...but indy cars are ridiculous to compare in lap times and performance..have you an idea?...and a f1 with low downforce can easily reachin higher speeds..it s more powerful..even if this last 2 years power was reduced to "only" 750-800hp..cause of cc (-600) and 2 cylinders less....what's your age??do americans really think this thing??XD
On an oval the Dallara is rated at 750bhp and with all the oval expertise that the teams have on setting up for ovals I'd say that gives it the higher top speed.
If you must know I'm 48, English and I'm involved with the running of a Danica Patrick Fan Site.
sorry for haven t left you a direct answer,take a look at what i wrote to jasonisonfire,it's good answer even for you..as for danica,good driver,but being a great fan doesn t mean to be an expert in this field..drive more and come to europe(to germany or england for costs overall) to do that..difference is huge..trust me..you'll realize what i'm tellin you it s true..
what you said is right and agree with you,a part from the edge of speed eheh...it s true that during the championship indy cars runs much faster,but as i said before f1 could run at higher speeds because of it s power...even if it was totally identical to indy mechanically..(and it isn t as we know..)..it's just a question of downforce..but it 's not a problem to get off a wing or a spoiler eheh..and good luck to danica the next season
An F1 couldn't, Just after Honda took over BAR, they took the car to bonnevile and altered everything to acheive top speed, it clocked 249 in Fia approved trim. and that was back in the 10 monster era. I'm a huge F1, but at the end of the day, Indy cars have higher top speeds. what are you going to tell us next, an F1 is faster than a topfuel dragster?
they put no interest and no money in a project dedicated to simple publicity..as i told before(but i only see fans..not esperts in physycs or in cars overall..)it s just a question of deportance,or downforce..a car with "only" 650hp for example,0,25cx and 600kg downforce at 300km/h hasn t problems to reach 340/350km/h..a f1 has to reach 300 in tracks like monaco,coz of 2000kg dwnf..even though its 900hp(before 2006)..with 100kg deportance it would easily reach even 450km/h due to (follows)...
...its extremely low cx and (but in a very small way) its weght..indy cars aren t sofisticated,projects are from '80...they have never changed much..cos of their championship rules and lack of sponsors(in usa only 350millions people live..the f1 world is very much more vaste..)..so i prefer them,they are more funny and amusing,but technically inferior,objectivly..and in case of top speed f1 cx is better,weight is better,power is better,transmission's organ lighter(it s important)..(follow)..
....so what s the motivation of indy supposed superiority?..deportance..just this..if a a f1 was "unloaded" from its downforce it logically run faster..at last..they are boring and without real competition...but they are still the best cars in the world..even this..a question of marketing and sponsors..and sorry for my english if i didn t explain it well..it s not my mother language at all..i'd prefer in spanish or italian overall eheh
Erm Veyron is AWD which helps it a lot in the 0-60 mark. Look it up, the numbers say it can keep up with it, honestly, IDC what's true or not, the Veyron is an ugly ass car I would much rather spend the 1mil+ it costs on a twin turbo M3, I won't be going 250+mph anywhere anyways.
Guys do some research, production cars will never match dedicated 1 race built racecars. Veyron 0-60: 2.46s 0-100: 5.5s 0-150: 9.8s F1 0-60: 2.3s 0-100: 3.9s 0-150: 6.5s Remember that F1 cars have a gearbox that is variable. you can set it up to do 0-60 in 4s and run 300mph, or run 0-60 in 1.5 and top out at 180mph. Hell my GSXR750 does 0-100mph 0.2 seconds slower than a Veyron and matches the Mclaren F1. Production cars really aren't that fast.
True that, like I stated, they were way off the numbers. I just saw the Top Gear video of McLaren vs Veyron, I love how the McLaren was pulling on it until 120ish and it was built like 1991 or 94, something along those line lol.
No it won't if what they claim on the Veryon it will be neck and neck almost, after a while the F1 will reach maximum speed and fall way behind. Although I might have to agree with you because the numbers they claim in like 0-60, 0-100 and stuff are way off on the Veyron.
@SpursBoy A Veyron is a pointless car.. other production cars beat it for everything. Scc ultimate aero is faster and probs handles better but cars like the ultima gtr has much better handling and accelerates faster and stops faster, also the veyron cost more to build then its sold for. it was only really made because they could. the veyron is just to heavy. if you then put it next to a race car it has no chance. F1 could go so much faster but they dont let them bec it wouldnt be safe..
@SpursBoy a veyron weighs three or four times as much as an f1 car, and the accelleration of an f1 would still obliderate the veyron, and the f1 cars and the veyron are about even as far as speed.
@SpursBoy and for that point road cars like ultima gtr actually hold records for accelerating faster and stopping faster then a veyron anyway. and it has gone around tg track faster then the fxx and the fxx was on slicks the ultima was on road sports tires.
Nope. If you take the rear wing off an F1 car it can go up to like 260mph too. It would be a closer race, but the Veyron definitely wouldn't "destroy" it.
@strange6 You're an idiot. An F1 car, on paper, can accelerate from 0-60 in less than a second, but in real life there isn't enough friction for an F1 car to lay on the gas like that. Typical F1 acceleration from 0-60 is roughly 1.7 seconds, and most F1 cars need about 100mph before they can open the throttle all the way. Veyron acceleration from 0-60 is 2.46 seconds, and it achieves 0-300kph in 15sec, the F1 0-300kph is only 8.6sec. The top speed on both cars is roughly the same.
@naval8viator You're the idiot after writing that bunch of crap. For one thing, I would like to know where you get those precise figures from? With the banning of traction control now, an f1 car's 0-60 is much greater than 1.7 seconds. I would say it's a whole second slower than that. I bet you the Veyron could beat an F1 car from standstill up to about 150 mph on a straight piece of road.
@strange6 are you high, drunk, or mentally ill?! a fast production car will NEVER beat a F1 race car. not even the bugatti. sure, their top speed is almost the same, and if you placed them both doing 195mph right next to each other, the veyron go ahead eventually, but from a start? you have to be kidding yourself. it weighs less. theres a video from the 90s where a F1 car and a lambo diablo do a drag race. guess who won, the Formula One Car thats who! by like a hundred feet! go ahead look it up.
@RonaldoLancer He must be... i go for mentally ill. Veyron wouldnt even stand a chance in hell against a GP2 car so comparing it with a F1 is out of words, actually i doubt veyron even would had defeat a GP3 car around silverstone
If anything could beat an F1 car round the track then it would make the whole concept of F1 pretty pointless....no road going production car will ever compare
@vilee453: Well, when you said faster, I thought you meant pace around a track, and with that in mind, a LeMans car can never be faster than a formula one car. However, I still doubt a LeMans car can reach 420 km/h, if you could provide a link to some stats to verify your claim is true I would be very impressed. I did some quick wikipedia-ing and found that top speeds (correctly geared ofcourse) are around 370 km/h, which is more believable.
@nfscaarbond that's true that it cannot go around a track as fast as an F1 car. and, it can be poosible, 'cause they using diesel engines nowadays, but 3 or 4 yrs ago they used petrol engines, and those could reach the 420.
@InYourBoatRace Well it is actually possible seeing as how F1 has restrictions that road cars don't have, but I don't think it could ever actually happen without a change in F1 rules.
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The F1 arrived just in time to beat the Porsche... but against S4, no chance...if the S4 starts with some advantage seconds (like Porsche and peugeot in this video)...it will be the winner...
If the S4 and Mclaren start in the same time, the f1 will be the winner..
a delta s4 have been driving on a gp track and the time would have place the s4 at 6 place in the qualifying of the f1 grand prix race on that track.
and any car can beat veyron on the track, it is made to go fast straight ahead, and dont realy have very good handling in corners, and you cant even use the full power of the veyron on track, because once you brake the car goes from fast mode to normal mode, and then, it not uses the 1001bhp
the bugatti wouldnt have a chance, new formula 1 cars have about 700hp and only weigh about 600kg! the bugatti has 1001 hp amd weighs about 1800kg. the formula 1 handels better to, it would destroy the bugatti veyron. look at the top gear lap times, the f1 destroyed the bugatti
they did this at the Aus. GP a few years back, only they had the BMW Williams, a V8 touring car (VT Holden), and a BMW 320i. It was interesting noting the differnce in speed between the 2 race cars, one road based and one bespoke.
bugatti is street legal. f1 is not. what do you think?
F1 cars are extremely light, like 10x lighter than a buggati veyron and are extremely aerodynmaic, more aerodynamic than a freaking airplane.
companies invest 200 million dollars alone in a single F1 car, and they're built to corner at maximum speed and accelerate at maximum speeds.
you can't compare a buggati to a F1. they even banned force induction and limited the F1's max speed to not go over mph a few years ago, 'cuz it's too fast.
they made it so f1's car can't go over 200 mph with some limiting program 'cuz it is too fast.
even though now F1's can't go over 200 mph, it is extremely aerodynamic and can corner at speeds 2x faster than a buggati veyron. and it will accelerate out of corners faster due to it's extremely light weight and extremely high grip to the road.
even the superbikes in motoGP can't corner as fast as F1's can.
nothing can compare to F1's. F1's are built to be the ultimate racing car.
Actually, F1's are sadly not built to be the ultimate racing car. They're built to be limp-wristed low-fat versions of what they could be without all those restrictions.
the reason any bike can't handle with an F-1 is down to engineering, 4 tires are better than 2 simple as that. look at lap times where F1 and MotoGP compete on the same track. top speeds are relatively similar but the cornering speeds on the bikes are way down largely because of a far smaller contact patch.
oh, and there is no "limiting device" for top speed on F1 cars. They reach speeds in excess of 200MPH at a few tracks including Monza and formerly at Indy.
yes but those TINY motorbike engine are in size of my fist ..... understand the SIZE of F1 engine and tiny motorbike engine, what is the size of shaft, pistons, and they have to work with the same speed, but the weight of every part is much much biger. The forces that want to DESTROY F1 engine we only can be similar to jet figher engine, and not 50cc bike'e
the question was "yes but F1 cars rev to 19,000rpms. No other vehicle revs that high". he didnt talk about performance or technology or the sheer forces that the f1 engine has to stand. im not denying that f1 engines are a marvelous pice of work, but 50cc motorbikes do rev higher
Actually, they are limited to 18 000 rpm by the rule-block. But, from the video they are more around 15 000 (we talk about 1994... So this is a max: I would say 14 500 as the max HP point).
At the same time in history, the Toyota GTV was road legal... If me memories are good, the max RPM of the GTV is higher then 15 000 but it is no use because... The max HP it at 5300.
I have to say, it depends who is behind the wheel too, what if Mika Hakkinen drove the Porshe,I think most of the times success comes from the machine and from who is driving it.
STFU Frenchie...
blainyrules 4 months ago
that was a beautiful McLaren... i don't like those nowadays chrome ones...
daLoerdchen 6 months ago 3
@TDiGP The F1 of 2005 had about 800-900 BHP, not a 1000. Yes, the cars could do 0-100 km/h in 1.5 seconds but definitely go to 370 km/h easily at Monza. Formula cars are not geared for high speeds like that. They were geared max for 340-350 km/h.
rvind92g 6 months ago
The thing that amazes me in all these videos is how slowly the high-end production car gains on the first car out.
EndMLMHeadaches 7 months ago
F1 with Peugeot engine =)
3 good cars !
midnightc0mmander 9 months ago
it would be interesting to see a top tier LMP go up against and F1.
RebelSoul2010 10 months ago
@TDiGP You are a spook. With 1000hp at the rear wheels with no weight on the wheels they can get next to no power down straight away. Dont quote me on this but i reckon a f1 car would be faster from 100-200n km/h than it would be from 0-100 km/h
whackachangchang 10 months ago
it's a peugeot 306, not 305
thebarry88 11 months ago
That french person ruined the vid ¬¬ frog bastard
MrMikeJkay 11 months ago
@MrMikeJkay don't be an asshole, this was on a French program. Not everyone speaks English, you know
yomama629 10 months ago
somthing that looks like an airplane on wheels... and can go so fast it can actually ride upside down through a tunnel, its obvious what wins lol
DHREVOLUTION 1 year ago
No bloody race car, production car or any car for that matter can beat an F1! God, if you think that then well your stupid. Nothing can handle as well as an F1, nothing can have acceleration as quick as an F1.
PalkiaLova112 1 year ago
these formula 1 vs something sucks. I would like to see formula 1 2011 vs formula 1 2010 + 2009 + all the way to 1989.
And then. Formula 1 1989 vs formula 3 2011 etc etc etc..
ZZombyWooff 1 year ago 5
Though slower, 911 by Porsche design, 205 by Pinninfarina are much more beautiful than McLaren F1 of the year!
ramrambatti 1 year ago
Stupid frenchman
lamborgboy 1 year ago
the veyron would be rape in a straight by an f1, depending on f1 aerodynamics
andreveiguinha 1 year ago
@andreveiguinha Veyron 0-60 is 2.46 seconds.. about the same as a Ducati 1198 superbike. An F1 gets 0-60 in 1.7 seconds and does 0-300kmh in 8.6 seconds. The veyron does 0-300kmh in 15sec. An F1 car dominates a veyron in every category except top speed in which the fastest veyron clocked is only about 10mph faster than the fastest F1 speed ever clocked.
naval8viator 8 months ago
@naval8viator Actually, its posible to set a F1 up to 260 mph and its still track legal ;) still it would beat the overrated veyron in everything
xismxist 7 months ago
The Veyron is a hideous car, and it's shite around corners for a car of it's status. Besides the Renault R24 can go around the Top Gear test track in 59 seconds, the Veyron SS in 1:16.8, so piss off whoever claimed that the Veyron is faster.
ForeverAyrtonSenna 1 year ago
just to solve things, F1 is not top end fastest, but is one of the fastest RWD race cars on acceleration and cornering, also if you want to race an F1 car against another car that any of you think that will beat it, i dont think so, because the F1 car will not be in FIA rules and these manufacturers can easily make these cars go over 1000hp, just by simply using bigger engines and turbo's, so for a something on acceleration and cornering, you cant beat an F1 car.
Bradsz27 1 year ago
@Bradsz27 for acceleration, try searching RedVictor, won't win on handling/cornering, but will on acceleration and top speed :D
nejewathebiker 1 year ago
t'as le temps de régler la f1 pendant que la pauvre 306 rame. LOL
sylburn22 1 year ago
F1 ain't nuffing to fuck wit
onarix 1 year ago
i think mika shouldf driven the peugeot
brabra6106 1 year ago
That's not a Peugeot 305.
sparkygl0s 1 year ago
The F1 car in this video goes from 0 to 100kmh in 2.4 sec.
BigAngeloSantorini 1 year ago
naja
multimackes 1 year ago
it's a 306
isdoma 1 year ago
@craigg1981 VW make the veyron at a cost of 5 million euros and only sell it for one million euros, they did it to prove a point, not to make money.
stiggy1704 1 year ago
accelerating topspeed and come around corners. in all of 3 points would f1 own a veyron. AND ssc ultimate aero fucks the veyron so who is veyron omg .. i hate that car.
HerrenbachStyle 1 year ago
I know what would be nice a race between Indycar vs F1 :D
kaltherzigh 1 year ago
compare apples and pears !
rarebear14 1 year ago
All you people talking about Veyron's are retarded!!! The Veyron was something that VW came up with to make a quick few billion cause they knew all these over paid assholes in the world would pay whatever they asked!!! Its a stupid car for stupid people!!! I would love to see someone push that thing through corners!! You know why you dont see that, CAUSE YOU CANT DO IT!!!!
craigg1981 1 year ago
@craigg1981 check fifth gear or top gear. Tiff and Stig both have. The veyron ss is now the fastest var on the top gear board. Think the older veyron was 3rd or 4th fastest.
KS873081 1 year ago
@KS873081 fastest car not var. doh!
KS873081 1 year ago
@KS873081 Yea, on tracks that have mile long straights were it can stretch its legs! Big deal, you put this thing on the Nurburgring and the only place its going to be fast is the last tenth of the track where that like 1.7 mile straight is! Around a real road course, a tuner car would beat that piece!!
craigg1981 1 year ago
@craigg1981 I agree man. All I meant was the veyron can be driven properly if the driver is up to it. Like the stig or tiff. Although many much less expensive cars would be faster. Check top gear man. Veyron SS is the fastest round their track but before the SS the veyron was 7th behind Gumpert, Ascari, Koenigsegg, Noble, Zonda, Caterham. All less expensive motors. Then when u take the ultima gtr, caparo t1, fxx and dbr9 there is no comparison. Tuned motors will kick veyrons ass on a track.
KS873081 1 year ago
@craigg1981 Keeping in mind the veyron was not built to compete on the track.
KS873081 1 year ago
f1 is da best racinen it is fasterr car in the world even it is faster than airplane in the first 30 sec of the start
BlackBlueMen 1 year ago
A Veyron may achieve (and may go beyond) the speed of an F1 car but in acceleration, deceleration/braking, cornering, it cannot beat F1. Whether in circuit track or a straight line, the Veyron just can't beat an F1.
tonz2380 1 year ago
rctaney, dont get your point. 240 was crazy, not a a show of skill just power. lets see an IRL car go through Eau Roughe (Belgam) I think NOT!!!!!!!!
19casino 1 year ago
Just great !!
i'd LOVE to be cock-pit / pilot of one F1 someday..
Speed is my life, loving it through anything in,
So can't wait for the day i'll be able to drive one :D
Redlion2277 1 year ago
Eventhough this clips was shot quite a couple of years ago.. it still shows us mere mortals how fantastic top of the line human engineering on a tuned combustion engine can be! It's exactly why men go see the formula 1 races: there's simply no comparison.. and something to experience on the spot. Even when you're a dad, you can hear your own silent amazement coming out of your kids mouth when the F1 passes. "Wow"! 2 huge grins on the sideline. Life as it should be! That stuff is priceless!
KitchenMarshall 1 year ago
@KitchenMarshall SOOOO TRUE!!!!!
craigg1981 1 year ago
Now the Champ Cars from the late engine competition era...I read last year some qualifying record had been set at Milwaukee by IRL and noted it woulda been good for 6th on the grid in 1998. Those 240mph laps at Fontana were impressive. Bear in mind those monsters had 200 more horsepower than an IRL car. Compare the Montreal lap times between Champ Car and F1.The performance differential is enormous. And a champ car was built to race on road and street courses-unlike those IRL barges.
rctaney 2 years ago
During F1s first year at Indy I believe it was the Arrows team that goofed around with a low downforce setup in practice and set 230mph trap speeds. The lap time was horrendous and that car gave up at least 100hp to the BMW or Ferrari. That BAR Honda had almost 1000 hp and weighed 1100 lbs. How can anyone with above an 8th grade education claim a 700hp car that weighs 1500 lbs is faster? Especially when the technology is all in the F1 cars favor?
rctaney 2 years ago
Simple physics. A Formula 1 Car of the V-10 era had more horsepower and weighed hundreds of pounds less than an Indy car. Compare lap times at Montreal between the late Champ Car series and F1. Or Detroit 1988- CART removed a chicane and were still slower. F1 cars run high down force set ups. The McLaren Mercedes regularly hit 225-230mph at the old Hockenheim ring set up. By this Indy is faster para-logic logic my Civic is faster because they only average 88mph at Monaco!
rctaney 2 years ago
I've always thought about a Veyron vs a Formula 1 race car. I got the stats as a Veyron doing 0 - 160km/h in 5.5 seconds. The formula 1 race car does 0 - 160km/h, and then back to 0km/h in UNDER 5 SECONDS!!!
erreip01 2 years ago
ferrari f 2004 (910hp and one of the fastest of all times) reached 0-100 in less than 2 sec, 0-200 in 3,8 and 0-300 in 8,7-8,9sec average..it depended on downforce..
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
lol look at the graphics
lateboy4 2 years ago
the bugatti wont stand a chance against a f1, in fact... nothing will
xismxist 2 years ago
Ashley Forces Mustang will. It does 0-315 mph in less than 4 seconds as she has 8000bhp at her disposal.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
it wouldnt stand a chance against a f1
xismxist 2 years ago
Lol I'm saying nowt. No need to. Ashley's car won't go round corners but at that speed who needs corners.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
In a straight line... Can't turn worth a damn.
papercut231719 2 years ago
A formula ! car can make a tight corner, such as Suzuka's 130R at incredible speed, with lateral G-forces of up to 6g, I doubt an 8000bhp drag car could make the turn at all, never mind at such incredible speeds. Dragsters are brilliant, there is nothing in the world like them, but they cannot be compared to F1.
jasonisonfire 2 years ago
Jesus Christ I was only messing about.
Anyway the fastest open wheel racecar is an Indycar. Just check on the IzodIndycar website.
And they overtake each other, unlike boring F1.
Glad Schumi's back as it needs a personality, like Izod Indycar has with Danica.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
I'm from the Uk, so obviously F1 is more popular over here. But British people seriously need to give indy a chance, The average speed of an indy car at Indianapolis motorspeed way, is 30 mph faster than an F1's top speed.
Indy couldn't keep up with F1 on a more technical track, but that's the point, they're not designed to compete against eachother.
So I do the right thing and watch Indy lights and GP2, slightly less speed, all of the excitement and oh so many crashes.
jasonisonfire 2 years ago
Exactly. That's my point.
The personalities in Indy are more interesting as well.
Beautiful Danica Patrick.
Likeable Hellio and crazy Ryan Briscoe.
I'd love to see a round of the championship be held over here.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
???????? nowadays f1 is terribly boring,it's true...but indy cars are ridiculous to compare in lap times and performance..have you an idea?...and a f1 with low downforce can easily reachin higher speeds..it s more powerful..even if this last 2 years power was reduced to "only" 750-800hp..cause of cc (-600) and 2 cylinders less....what's your age??do americans really think this thing??XD
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
On an oval the Dallara is rated at 750bhp and with all the oval expertise that the teams have on setting up for ovals I'd say that gives it the higher top speed.
If you must know I'm 48, English and I'm involved with the running of a Danica Patrick Fan Site.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
sorry for haven t left you a direct answer,take a look at what i wrote to jasonisonfire,it's good answer even for you..as for danica,good driver,but being a great fan doesn t mean to be an expert in this field..drive more and come to europe(to germany or england for costs overall) to do that..difference is huge..trust me..you'll realize what i'm tellin you it s true..
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
Ok see your point but when you mention costs. That is what is ruining F1.
The US has never really been as big a fan of open wheelers as it is of Nascar.
But Indycar has had recent success thanks to it's lower budget and single manufacturer.
Another large factor is Danica, without her I think it would really struggle to exist.
On the speed front I feel the Indycar has the edge but the F1 will hammer it on cornering and acceleration.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
what you said is right and agree with you,a part from the edge of speed eheh...it s true that during the championship indy cars runs much faster,but as i said before f1 could run at higher speeds because of it s power...even if it was totally identical to indy mechanically..(and it isn t as we know..)..it's just a question of downforce..but it 's not a problem to get off a wing or a spoiler eheh..and good luck to danica the next season
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
Well maybe one day somebody will put one against theother at Indianapolis. That would be interesting to say the least.
It would be an excellent thing to have on Top Gear.
Thanks for the Danica comment by the way, it's nice to know that not everyone hates her because shes an attractive woman in a so called mans world.
MrTonyozzie 2 years ago
An F1 couldn't, Just after Honda took over BAR, they took the car to bonnevile and altered everything to acheive top speed, it clocked 249 in Fia approved trim. and that was back in the 10 monster era. I'm a huge F1, but at the end of the day, Indy cars have higher top speeds. what are you going to tell us next, an F1 is faster than a topfuel dragster?
jasonisonfire 2 years ago
they put no interest and no money in a project dedicated to simple publicity..as i told before(but i only see fans..not esperts in physycs or in cars overall..)it s just a question of deportance,or downforce..a car with "only" 650hp for example,0,25cx and 600kg downforce at 300km/h hasn t problems to reach 340/350km/h..a f1 has to reach 300 in tracks like monaco,coz of 2000kg dwnf..even though its 900hp(before 2006)..with 100kg deportance it would easily reach even 450km/h due to (follows)...
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
...its extremely low cx and (but in a very small way) its weght..indy cars aren t sofisticated,projects are from '80...they have never changed much..cos of their championship rules and lack of sponsors(in usa only 350millions people live..the f1 world is very much more vaste..)..so i prefer them,they are more funny and amusing,but technically inferior,objectivly..and in case of top speed f1 cx is better,weight is better,power is better,transmission's organ lighter(it s important)..(follow)..
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
....so what s the motivation of indy supposed superiority?..deportance..just this..if a a f1 was "unloaded" from its downforce it logically run faster..at last..they are boring and without real competition...but they are still the best cars in the world..even this..a question of marketing and sponsors..and sorry for my english if i didn t explain it well..it s not my mother language at all..i'd prefer in spanish or italian overall eheh
pazzoallaguida 2 years ago
Never vayron has to much weight
Koenigstiger 2 years ago
a veyron will get manhandled by the F1
jcrockz420 2 years ago 10
Erm Veyron is AWD which helps it a lot in the 0-60 mark. Look it up, the numbers say it can keep up with it, honestly, IDC what's true or not, the Veyron is an ugly ass car I would much rather spend the 1mil+ it costs on a twin turbo M3, I won't be going 250+mph anywhere anyways.
MikeHuntIsItchy 2 years ago
gold333 2 years ago 6
True that, like I stated, they were way off the numbers. I just saw the Top Gear video of McLaren vs Veyron, I love how the McLaren was pulling on it until 120ish and it was built like 1991 or 94, something along those line lol.
MikeHuntIsItchy 2 years ago
@gold333 Thats a straight line take it on a track, plus a car serves a different purpose to a bike
NikolaAU 6 months ago
No it won't if what they claim on the Veryon it will be neck and neck almost, after a while the F1 will reach maximum speed and fall way behind. Although I might have to agree with you because the numbers they claim in like 0-60, 0-100 and stuff are way off on the Veyron.
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TAKE5MOVIES 2 years ago
I would like to see the Veyron take off first then the f1 hehe yea!! Now that would be somthing!
vexviper 2 years ago
A Veyron cannot go around corners as well as an F1 car, an F1 car would still destroy it.
SpursBoy 2 years ago 72
@SpursBoy A Veyron is a pointless car.. other production cars beat it for everything. Scc ultimate aero is faster and probs handles better but cars like the ultima gtr has much better handling and accelerates faster and stops faster, also the veyron cost more to build then its sold for. it was only really made because they could. the veyron is just to heavy. if you then put it next to a race car it has no chance. F1 could go so much faster but they dont let them bec it wouldnt be safe..
fergus1494 1 year ago
@fergus1494 The ssc is american, therefore It Won't Handle Better...=P
wahaya2 1 year ago
@wahaya2 Thats retarded
FlyingAero 1 year ago
@SpursBoy a veyron weighs three or four times as much as an f1 car, and the accelleration of an f1 would still obliderate the veyron, and the f1 cars and the veyron are about even as far as speed.
trxslashdriver 1 year ago
@SpursBoy and for that point road cars like ultima gtr actually hold records for accelerating faster and stopping faster then a veyron anyway. and it has gone around tg track faster then the fxx and the fxx was on slicks the ultima was on road sports tires.
fergus1494 1 year ago
@SpursBoy super sport? can take corners better than an atom 300
everythingman987 10 months ago
@SpursBoy Probably would around corners but the veyron would destroy the F1 car in a straight line
strange6 9 months ago
@strange6
Nope. If you take the rear wing off an F1 car it can go up to like 260mph too. It would be a closer race, but the Veyron definitely wouldn't "destroy" it.
SpursBoy 9 months ago
@strange6 You're an idiot. An F1 car, on paper, can accelerate from 0-60 in less than a second, but in real life there isn't enough friction for an F1 car to lay on the gas like that. Typical F1 acceleration from 0-60 is roughly 1.7 seconds, and most F1 cars need about 100mph before they can open the throttle all the way. Veyron acceleration from 0-60 is 2.46 seconds, and it achieves 0-300kph in 15sec, the F1 0-300kph is only 8.6sec. The top speed on both cars is roughly the same.
naval8viator 8 months ago
@naval8viator You're the idiot after writing that bunch of crap. For one thing, I would like to know where you get those precise figures from? With the banning of traction control now, an f1 car's 0-60 is much greater than 1.7 seconds. I would say it's a whole second slower than that. I bet you the Veyron could beat an F1 car from standstill up to about 150 mph on a straight piece of road.
strange6 8 months ago
@strange6 are you high, drunk, or mentally ill?! a fast production car will NEVER beat a F1 race car. not even the bugatti. sure, their top speed is almost the same, and if you placed them both doing 195mph right next to each other, the veyron go ahead eventually, but from a start? you have to be kidding yourself. it weighs less. theres a video from the 90s where a F1 car and a lambo diablo do a drag race. guess who won, the Formula One Car thats who! by like a hundred feet! go ahead look it up.
RonaldoLancer 8 months ago
@RonaldoLancer He must be... i go for mentally ill. Veyron wouldnt even stand a chance in hell against a GP2 car so comparing it with a F1 is out of words, actually i doubt veyron even would had defeat a GP3 car around silverstone
xismxist 7 months ago
If anything could beat an F1 car round the track then it would make the whole concept of F1 pretty pointless....no road going production car will ever compare
InYourBoatRace 2 years ago 57
@InYourBoatRace yep, road going can't, but the LeMans cars are faster
vilee453 1 year ago
@vilee453 you're kidding right?
nfscaarbond 1 year ago
@nfscaarbond no. a LeMans LMP1 car can go even 420 km/h.. if you don't believe me, check it..
vilee453 1 year ago
@vilee453: Well, when you said faster, I thought you meant pace around a track, and with that in mind, a LeMans car can never be faster than a formula one car. However, I still doubt a LeMans car can reach 420 km/h, if you could provide a link to some stats to verify your claim is true I would be very impressed. I did some quick wikipedia-ing and found that top speeds (correctly geared ofcourse) are around 370 km/h, which is more believable.
nfscaarbond 1 year ago
@nfscaarbond that's true that it cannot go around a track as fast as an F1 car. and, it can be poosible, 'cause they using diesel engines nowadays, but 3 or 4 yrs ago they used petrol engines, and those could reach the 420.
vilee453 1 year ago
@InYourBoatRace Well it is actually possible seeing as how F1 has restrictions that road cars don't have, but I don't think it could ever actually happen without a change in F1 rules.
thekkl 1 year ago
@InYourBoatRace Group C cars, pretty sure that the solo effect would made the difference!
Luger911 1 year ago
@InYourBoatRace the X1 can beat it lol
yomama629 9 months ago
@yomama629 lol you played too much gran turismo 5
gerry7man555 6 months ago
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Potechisama 2 years ago
true...
korujaratm123 2 years ago
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The F1 arrived just in time to beat the Porsche... but against S4, no chance...if the S4 starts with some advantage seconds (like Porsche and peugeot in this video)...it will be the winner...
If the S4 and Mclaren start in the same time, the f1 will be the winner..
Boizita 2 years ago
nothing can beat a f1...
dekanoxd 2 years ago 4
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man,a Delta S4 can...
leosotpg 2 years ago
a delta s4 can bet veyron maybe but not a f1...
dekanoxd 2 years ago
a delta s4 have been driving on a gp track and the time would have place the s4 at 6 place in the qualifying of the f1 grand prix race on that track.
and any car can beat veyron on the track, it is made to go fast straight ahead, and dont realy have very good handling in corners, and you cant even use the full power of the veyron on track, because once you brake the car goes from fast mode to normal mode, and then, it not uses the 1001bhp
w8tfield 2 years ago 5
Estoril
ShootingSam 2 years ago
veyron goes from 0-100km/h in 2.8 seconds and a f1 goes from 0-200km/h in 3.8 seconds
dekanoxd 2 years ago 7
Year?...
1994?
hofsteveO 2 years ago
the bugatti wouldnt have a chance, new formula 1 cars have about 700hp and only weigh about 600kg! the bugatti has 1001 hp amd weighs about 1800kg. the formula 1 handels better to, it would destroy the bugatti veyron. look at the top gear lap times, the f1 destroyed the bugatti
LsnakeM 2 years ago 2
yeah your right, the veyron is the fastest production car in the world, but probably a normal M3 can win against a veyron on circuit.
dl658 2 years ago
Lol, not quite. Check Veyron`s times on the Top Gear race track and at Nurburgring, it compares to cars such as Enzo and Zonda and Carrera GT
BoverElectric 2 years ago
yes it's silverstone
Why don't drive with a Bugatti Vayron against F1?¿
masterboy1477 2 years ago
The F1 Would Stil Murder The Bugatti In ther Corners!
dirtyDielo 2 years ago 8
Why do these races always take place at Silverstone?
slungbungdungclung 2 years ago 2
The Peugeot is 306 not 305.
molnarpj 2 years ago
yeah its a 306 gti-6
ROSCObadlad 2 years ago
How about a Honda Civic vs a Corvette with wing vs that turbine engine F1 car that was banned?
stopglobalswarming 2 years ago
It was Fool's Day's joke by Brawn GP!
Stupido95 2 years ago
this is not a peugeot 305 it's 306 before facelift, peugeot 305 is a car from around year 1985.
djfrozen 2 years ago 2
this was the equivalent of saying, "ok, you have 2 minutes to run before i kill you." Seriously did anybody doubt this outcome?
innerJAG 2 years ago
fucking hilarious lol
mitchmcgrath 2 years ago
No, but the point is just to show how amazing these cars are.
anselmo666666 2 years ago
what about ferrari f50 and jaguar xj220 against the f1?
xismxist 2 years ago
man i love open wheel racing
killingfield1975 2 years ago
amen.
ryanindy124 2 years ago
niki lauda did a similar setup many years ago, also in a mclaren.
natureboy99 2 years ago
unnnbelievable ... he passed them like they were driving the other way
markthreemillion 3 years ago 2
they did this at the Aus. GP a few years back, only they had the BMW Williams, a V8 touring car (VT Holden), and a BMW 320i. It was interesting noting the differnce in speed between the 2 race cars, one road based and one bespoke.
farqtoo98 3 years ago
Mika häkkinen wins the round nice hyvä suomi
pocketrocketturbo5 3 years ago
oh jezuz christ the f1 just slaughtered the two road cars man it was as if they let him thru!
bearfaeces22 3 years ago
vive peugeot on a nique une Porsche et ca fait toujours plaisir lol
jerarbel 3 years ago
ducking french idiots why have that fucking laungauche?
gurraaaaa 3 years ago
Maybe because there are people who cannot speak or write in English although it seems to be their first language. Get it, Mr. "laungauche?"
gecmartins 3 years ago
obviusly he was being sarcastic...
viperv77 3 years ago
Dude, at least they don't have the economic issues that we have out here!!!
RCDOGO22 3 years ago
WRONG! France has 10%+ unemployment rate...
Logistics5150 3 years ago
what is that porsche ?
turbo or 4s ?
Turboo911 3 years ago
looks like a turbo
Ang0550 3 years ago
sorry but i dont think becouse i dont see whale tail. or i am wrong?
Turboo911 3 years ago
langweilige scheiße... und auch noch auf französisch... super...
AlexxElder 3 years ago
i wonder who'll win .. in a 1/4 mile run f1 vs bugatti?????
GSAutoTech 3 years ago
bugatti is street legal. f1 is not. what do you think?
F1 cars are extremely light, like 10x lighter than a buggati veyron and are extremely aerodynmaic, more aerodynamic than a freaking airplane.
companies invest 200 million dollars alone in a single F1 car, and they're built to corner at maximum speed and accelerate at maximum speeds.
you can't compare a buggati to a F1. they even banned force induction and limited the F1's max speed to not go over mph a few years ago, 'cuz it's too fast.
SonyForLife 3 years ago
they made it so f1's car can't go over 200 mph with some limiting program 'cuz it is too fast.
even though now F1's can't go over 200 mph, it is extremely aerodynamic and can corner at speeds 2x faster than a buggati veyron. and it will accelerate out of corners faster due to it's extremely light weight and extremely high grip to the road.
even the superbikes in motoGP can't corner as fast as F1's can.
nothing can compare to F1's. F1's are built to be the ultimate racing car.
SonyForLife 3 years ago 2
oh wow. cool. thanks for the info.
GSAutoTech 3 years ago
Actually, F1's are sadly not built to be the ultimate racing car. They're built to be limp-wristed low-fat versions of what they could be without all those restrictions.
sir62092 3 years ago 4
yea we reali need to c real cars... but were getin close, slick tyres next year, but wot we reali need is turbos!!
AlexnTimmyCo 3 years ago
agree with u
euter7 3 years ago
even the superbikes????...You know the superbikes are not known for their handling or their apex speed...
dedespo 3 years ago
the reason any bike can't handle with an F-1 is down to engineering, 4 tires are better than 2 simple as that. look at lap times where F1 and MotoGP compete on the same track. top speeds are relatively similar but the cornering speeds on the bikes are way down largely because of a far smaller contact patch.
natureboy99 2 years ago
oh, and there is no "limiting device" for top speed on F1 cars. They reach speeds in excess of 200MPH at a few tracks including Monza and formerly at Indy.
natureboy99 2 years ago
but f1 cars have rev limiters...wich is shit
KvizY 2 years ago
yes but F1 cars rev to 19,000rpms. No other vehicle revs that high
Suprahampton 2 years ago
disproved! 50 cc racing motorbikes, rev between 18000 and 23000
HungryGoth 2 years ago
yes but those TINY motorbike engine are in size of my fist ..... understand the SIZE of F1 engine and tiny motorbike engine, what is the size of shaft, pistons, and they have to work with the same speed, but the weight of every part is much much biger. The forces that want to DESTROY F1 engine we only can be similar to jet figher engine, and not 50cc bike'e
adakar83 2 years ago
the question was "yes but F1 cars rev to 19,000rpms. No other vehicle revs that high". he didnt talk about performance or technology or the sheer forces that the f1 engine has to stand. im not denying that f1 engines are a marvelous pice of work, but 50cc motorbikes do rev higher
HungryGoth 2 years ago
Without limitation of the rule, right now, an F1 engine will make 25700 rpm. May be more. A moto gp engine make 18000 rpm.
But this is no use... The Howmet TX make 54 000 RPM. But it is "cheating".
therrydicule 2 years ago
The older v10 engines reved over 24k...
Spartan117FS 2 years ago 3
Actually, they are limited to 18 000 rpm by the rule-block. But, from the video they are more around 15 000 (we talk about 1994... So this is a max: I would say 14 500 as the max HP point).
At the same time in history, the Toyota GTV was road legal... If me memories are good, the max RPM of the GTV is higher then 15 000 but it is no use because... The max HP it at 5300.
therrydicule 2 years ago
Are you mental?
moondog637 2 years ago
F1 1
306 2
Porsche 3 porsche sucks haha
lapinschous1 3 years ago
That was intense!
flymanflyproductions 3 years ago
I have to say, it depends who is behind the wheel too, what if Mika Hakkinen drove the Porshe,I think most of the times success comes from the machine and from who is driving it.
Marfast 3 years ago 2
the Porsche was being driven by Martin Brundle, Mika's teammate for that 1994 season at McLaren Peugeot. Similar driving talent.
farqtoo98 3 years ago
this race is beautiful.
sozoro93 3 years ago
Bom..................
gervaz10 3 years ago
F1 vs. Peugeot 905 LM or Evo 1 (Le Mans Prototypes from 1990-1993), well that would have been quite a bit more interesting.
deggis4 3 years ago
fucking god damnit its in french
yeyodles 3 years ago 7
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fu*ing france
gentle285 3 years ago
306 s16
AphyXNET 3 years ago
Wow. I love these videos. They serve as a great example of the sheer performance differences, especially that of an F1. Again... Wow. -Gotta love it.
SChaconJr 3 years ago
Would be nice to see peugeot return to f1!
gannonsheldon 3 years ago
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France...ptsss!!!
You should think the original english speaker was ok in a highly developed country, but no!
The arrogant lazy frenchmen dosent bother to just learn a little, så they need a fucking translater.
And why arent subtitles enough?...cant they at least read their own language???
Michaelingolfhansen 3 years ago
Are you in iraq nad made with bush?
BudmanSP 3 years ago
why, dont you understnd a bit of french?
pineappleboy1 3 years ago