The principle of being self evident is a good way to measure the failure that is 9-11 truth. If someone were to tell me that say, they are a great golfer when they can't break 90, it is self evident that they are delusional based on their results.
Apply this to the nearly 10 year span that 9-11 truth has had, armed with all of their 'experts" and "evidence", it is apparent what they are...... losers unable to back their claims in a court of law or gain favor with any public opinion.
Wow, it's amazing to look back to 06 or 07 period and just look at how embarrassing and ridicules the loose change guys look. They had their ass handed to them in the Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics debate. I'm almost embarrassed to have considered myself a truther once but I'm glad I came to my senses.
@SlightyDisturbedNBK Came to your senses and started sucking the Nazi governments dick good! Oh Yeah Bush pee in my mouth oh yeah Cheney let me take your old impotent jizz load!
@SlightyDisturbedNBK I am not little I am 6'3 220 lbs. Your just one of those guys if you probably saw Jason Bermas in public or even talked to him over the phone you'd get owned in a debate. Yeah SlightlyDisturbed mangina now property of george w. bush and the obama cover up.
Ok, lemme get this straight. You pathetic bastards have a Walter Mitty Fantasy where youre saving the world from all manner of evil, just by watching YT videos. You flatter urselves with asinine fantasies where the NWO was just about the take over the world, but your awesome YouTube watching abilities beat them back.
ur life is THAT sad and pathetic that u really believe that shit. And ur talking smack to others?
all debunkers just stfu. we know your life is shit and you have nothing better to do but get out of your moms basement and get some friends. and stop dreaming abou one day being able to suck the goverments cocks.
Sending the CIA to recruit Afghan rebel fighters to fight the Taliban and capture Bin Laden instead of using the U.S. Military to immediately capture Bin Laden. U.S. forces would not enter until Osama fled to Pakistan. Cia allowed the so called terrorist to escape before military forces occupied the country. The F.B.I doesn't even list 9/11 as a crime on Osama's most wanted poster due to lack of evidence but the close minded people arguing the need for a new investigation know over the F.B.I HA
Having the President Hijack the Government as a dictator under a bullshit presidential order, and attacking the peoples rights and liberties while dismantling the Constitution, Neo-Con manifesto that praised a "new pearl harbor" so that the agenda could be put into action right away, being attacked by the tyrant Bush families allies the Royal Saudis, and then blaming countries that they want to establish a pipe line through and one to establish bases in the middle east to conquest an empire
Pointing out the flaws of an amateur dvd made by two young kids and pointing out the fact that they exaggerated points to win the opinion of the audience, like every network television journalists isn't guilty of the same manipulation in their work. Ha BS. Obama media craze decided the presidency, its pure propaganda no more credible than journalists like Bermas. Its funny with all the tyranny in America this last century, of lying treasonous leaders, to false flag attacks to justify Wars,
Like 19 Hijackers under the leadership of a CIA asset hiding in caves thousands of miles away, and successfully beating the most sophisticated defense system in the world isnt a "conspiracy theory"? It is such a ridiculous story i can't believe people actually consider it as true. Instead of showing your true stupidity towards the event of 9/11 and basing arguments on the credibility of Bermas and Avery's journalism. Like Corporate media journalists are more credible at Fox News?
Why were the head leaders of the country that should of been held responsible able to appear together to keep a story straight and not even be put under oathe? What about the scientific analysis of the WTC dust that has forensic evidence of nano-thermite explosives? If this is such a conspiracy have a real investigation without government meddling in the process, instead of being so close minded about everything and using conspiracy theory as a form of abuse,
Denial is not Patriotic,Why is having a real criminal Investigation independent from the United States Government such a big deal if its just a "conspiracy theory"? Why not have a real investigation and put the claims to rest? N.I.S.T and the scam of a investigation by the 9/11 Commission was not by any means an honest investigation. Removing the steel from the wreckage before it could be analyzed is against federal crime scene laws, what was the hurry to get rid of the evidence asap.
to bad that Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery were caught of fire fighter quote mining meaning putting words into fire fighters mouth but they didn't say it.
"I'm not here to preach to the choir..." No, he's just there to promote his own DVD's, a work of fiction by Dildo Avery! Bermas is a Shameless prostitute
i met jason when he cam e to our turht group meeting. he said he wanted to sex with another man, so i gave it to him hard up the ass. itwas grate! he shouted out 9/111 was an inside job when we were done. down wit the NOW!
Because youve been exposed as oppotunistic ghouls and more and more people realize youre spreading treasonous bile to help Alqueda get away with the attacks. All for a few bucks.
Hey, fag, stop trying to assassinate people's characters and start debating like a human. Instead of going off and calling people names, just make a relevant point, but I don't think you'll EVER change, you're one of the worst truthers, probably right there with Skully.
maybe if you stop swallowing edgemoron's load I might take you seriously? but it's your country that is fucked up just like I fucked your mother last night.
You're talking about taking me seriously? HA I don't fucking get you but I'm fucking glad you're such a retard. I'm not gonna fight back because cursing you out proves nothing.
like I said, when you grow up and stop sucking flunkers dicks then come talk to me. Until then, just know that I Avoozl fucking own you bitch boy. You're my bitch, now go to sleep my little bitch.
If Al Qaeda really wanted to destroy us and our country I'm pretty sure there would have been more attacks after 9/11.
If Al Qaeda really pulled this off I think they could pull off another. There hasn't been one attack since 9/11. Think about it. How hard would it be for a "terrorist" to fly into South America and then come across the Mexican border. Thousands of people do it every day, but still no terrorists after 8 years. Hmm.
""If Al Qaeda really wanted to destroy us and our country I'm pretty sure there would have been more attacks after 9/11""
you're certainly entitled to your GUESS. But GUESSES are not facts. And given that there were 8 years between the 2 ALQ attacks on the WTC, AND given Alq's reputation for infrequent, attacks, with long periods between them, your guess isnt even an informed one.
Do you believe a 757 made that hole? Shouldn't the hole be bigger than the fuselage of a 757? The engines of an airliner are far more dense than the hollow aluminum fuselage, but there weren't any holes from the engines. No marks on the walls from where the engines should have impacted. And best of all no engines were found.
keep it up don't listen to the failures of evolution that are responding beneath you, they are and sadly enough they would rather you fuck your life up with drugs like thier kids do, and can't stand that you go out and seek knowledge, you seek and you'll find but you and I know tv couch potato chip junkies no the real deal lmao.
"it's totally changed from fire and damage to fire that caused thermal expansion" Hmmmm....something doesn't sound quite right there...Isn't thermal expansion actually damage?! If the fire weakened steel and caused a progressive collapse, due to the damage from the steel giving way from the thermal expansion, it is STILL damage. These people focus on semantics but completely miss the point. These people are just insane troublemakers who want to ACT important and intelligent.
ahahha troublemakers! I love how you name call patriots...you will not stop them. They have been shown truth and your lies will not convince anyone. Everything you have done on youtube is in vain...you remember that when your kids become Truthers bitch.
WRONG! My kids won't be the type of people that jump to conclusions based on assumptions and then bother people on the street as if they KNOW they are right. Truthers are nothing more than street preachers bitching about things they don't fully understand, while they assume they know everything.
That is just so...YOU! I make a point that you are unable to refute so you go on to insult my children. I'm not surprised. Keep up the good work! You are the voice of the chemtards.
Btw that was in response to avoozl07. Avooz why don't you read over the NIST report and tell us where exactly it is incorrect? Also the building did not fall at free fall speed.
Isn't it amazing how many people use that term "free fall speed" without having the slightest clue what that actually means? These people pick up these terms and phrases and pass them around as if they know what they are talking about. It makes them feel special to be involved in a "cause" as part of a group demanding change. It's too funny!
oh you mean like the science that WT7 fell because of fire, when it was the only building in history to ever fall at freefall speed due to fire? WOw, you're a genius. Keep in mind that I have defeated you before logically...you really want to go down the road of Science?
For thousands of years people used logic to deduce that more massive objects must fall faster than light ones.
And did he say that a collapse due to thermal expansion does not make sense? His statement doesn't make sense. Why does anyone believe what he has to say about anything? He is not an expert and clearly does not know what he is talking about.
uh...because it doesn't make sense according to the law of physics. Listen, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out, WT7 COULD NOT HAVE FELL BECAUSE OF FIRE. Stop with your bullshit "NIST is smarter than us" crap...do you even know what branch of government NIST works for?
Umm...what law of physics is violated? Is there a law stating no building can fall due to thermal expansion of its beams (maybe one of Newton's more obscure laws)? Must have missed that one. I didn't say NIST is smarter...but they are experts. Who are you to question them? You have quite the ego if you think you can explain a complicated event such as a building collapse with sheer logic. Where as others went to school for years to study physics/engineering... you simply know what happened.
You have experts on both sides just one side is heard more than the other which seems to be very common in the USA. The media calls anyone who questions NIST "conspiracy nuts", "lunatics", etc...If you bother to look for answers go to BLIP(DOT)TV and search: HOW THE TOWERS FELL
I personally don't know for sure but I wouldn't trust anyone from the executive branch in the united states...that's just common sense.
You didn't answer my question but I will answer yours. Look up The Law Of Resistance...it's impossible for WT7 to have fallen at freefall speed due to that law. I haven't given up anything, we're just getting started. It appears you have given up common sense and that is far worse than giving up your supposed assertion of me giving up a scientific answer.
Building 7 did not fall at free fall speed. Law of resistance? I think you are referring to Newton's first law....and how exactly is it violated? And no I won't be drawn off topic by your random questions. Of course if I did not know the answer I could look it up in about 2 seconds....so what would that prove? Unlike you I really only talk about something if I understand it. I don't parrot what I see online.
Do you know what freefall speed is? It's violated because there would have been too much resistance in the building structure to have collapsed as fast as it did. NIST has changed their story 3 times or am I just parroting more facts to you(sarcasm). Listen here...if you believe the internet is "bad" then why do you use it? IF you believe it is unreliable then get out of here...otherwise keep ridiculous comments like "I don't parrot what I see online" to yourself, it only hurts your argument.
When you say freefall speed I think you really mean freefall acceleration. Using the actual time of collapse you can calculate the actual acceleration and it is less than 9.81 m/s(squared) (which is what it would be for an object in free fall). I never said the internet is bad/unreliable. However, a person shouldn't blindly repeat what they read without a basic understanding of the topics involved.
Without the internet it would be so much easier to control how people think, that is why so many people are waking up to criminal governments such as the USA. It was much easier to control how people think with tv and the printed press...now within seconds you can have access to things people have done and said decades ago. Do not underestimate the power of the internet and stop overestimating the intelligence of "so-called" experts. Here is a vid for you:
WOW! You sure proved your point with THAT! A website that mirrors YOUR opinion?! Holy shit!
Man, you sure know how to school people on the net with your vast knowledge! I mean doing a google search and accepting anything that comes up as "fact" makes you a fucking genius! Fuck going to a university for engineering and learning the details about a subject! One can get the meat and potatoes about ANY subject just by googling it! And it's all TRUE!!!! Good call Flunker!!!
So he's curious about how the history of 911 will be taught.I think people will look back and say'there was a time when many people got duped by a gang of lying morons.'
the only moron is you bitch and your drawings suck...stick figures proves there is NO NEW WORLD ORDER. It's amazing retards like you can even tie your shoes...then again you probably wear velcro shoes.
"No one cares about your spam so please stop wasting your and my time because your comments will simply be deleted."
if you didn't care about my comments you wouldn't have gone out of your way to block me from making more.
it is understandable that many debunkers are afraid to discuss the faked footage shown on 911. many debunkers are intelligent enough to know that regurgitating the official story does not work in refuting the evidence for faked footage, so blocking is the best bet.
"I am amused that little tards like you keep saying the footage was faked even after it was explained to you why it was not faked."
who has debunked the evidence as seen in "911 amateur," parts 1-3? also, who has debunked the conclusion that a bluescreen type apparatus was used, which enabled the superimposition of fake images onto the footage that was allegedly live?
i'm not a "tard" -there is little need for you to engage in pathetic and useless name-calling.
No plane hit Building 7 and it fell down with perfect symmetry.
WTC 4, 5, and 6 all had way more damage than WTC 7, and guess what? They didn't collapse. Compare images of WTC 4, 5, 6, and 7 and pick the one with the worst damage. Which one is it? It isn't 7, so why did it fall?
And what puched the hole in the C ring of the Pentagon?It's definitely too small to be the fuselage of a 757. And the Pentagon's security cameras were unable to capture one frame of the incoming plane?Yeah right.
1) hardly perfect symmetry, since it fell over and into the verizion building
2) Just because the explanation for 7 is over ur head, doesnt make it false
3) If you understood physics at a basic level, it would make perfect sense that lower, flatter smaller building (cage designed, unlike 7) SHOULD be able to sustain more damage.
4) Please provide ur deadground map for the pentagon's cameras, then indicate which camera should have captured the approach.
cont....that even if EVERYTHING is 100 the exact same between 2 buildings (except one is a smaller version of the other) the smaller one will be able to take as lot more damage than the taller one.
Thats why anyone with a room temp IQ (ie anyone smarter than a twoofer) understands why engineers have made small gains at a time, in building height.
According Kevin and the rest of the kooks we should be building 3,000 story buildings just as easily as a 3 story one. Because
cont2...according to kook "logic" there is no increased risk that higher up you go, the more vulnerable to collapse the building is.
But, for the rest of us on Planet Educated, it makes perfect sense that a lower, smaller building (cage design) can take a lot more punishment than a "tube-tube" design thats nearly 10x as tall.
You should just stop attempting to write in the English language. Educated people will see me write, and then they see whatever it is that you are doing, and they will know who the "moron" is. So just give up shill.
Kev cant answer. So he pretends to blame his inability to read on someone else. Completely changing the subject to ME, because he cant face the facts, and cant answer the quesitons.
LOLOLOL
and they wonder why no one takes them seriously? HAHAHAHHAA
It is the Pentagon. It is one of the most secure buildings in the world, and supported by an unlimited military budget. It is safe to say it is covered with surveillance (video cameras). Walmart is covered with cameras, and that isn't exactly a military installation. I'm sure the Pentagon has at least that level of security. If someone breaks into a car in the Walmart parking lot they will be on camera, but the Pentagon's cameras can't pick up a 400,000lb aircraft approaching? Right.
The flight path was a descent to the point. Morons believe it was level, because they only see the last split second, and the glide slope was 80-1, due to the high forward speed.
So, while I apprecaite youve never researched this, actually, the plane was descending.
and since you admit, no cams would be pointed up, and away from the building, Really no cameras would have caught it any better than the BG shot we already had.
There is a shot from a typical security camera. Please explain to me how---if an airplane is speeding in from the west--that camera will see it approach the building.
Was that too hard a question? Or need I dumb it down further? LOL
the cameras at the pentagon didnt even need to be pointed up. the "plane" hit the pentagon at such a low and perfect angle that it didnt even leave a single scratch on the grass
1. WTC 7 didn't fall in perfect symmetry. It leaned, then came the penthouse down and in the end the outer structure collapses from one side to the other.
2. Hugh parts were scooped out, multifloor fires and a unique design brought building 7 down.
3. What was it, that "punched" a hole that "small" in the C-ring? Please explain!
You guys bring up the same old and long answered shit time and time again, but maybe you have some consistent answers...
Bermas and Alex Jones will be making this their life. Planning ahead to 2o11 means they will work to make sure nothng changes until then. I saw that when I met Avery and him. Avery figured it out it seems but Bermas is hooked on the AJones juicer.
9/11 "truthers" exemplify faulty logic. If somebody can present a well-reasoned theory on why fuel-packed airliners knocking the fireproofing off of steel columns and heating them until they weakened to the point of failure was not the cause of collapse, I'll listen. It would take months of drilling and planting tens of thousands of pounds of explosives (all connected by miles of visible det cord) in buildings that would have to be empty in order to control demo the WTC.
dishonest bastard milking a tragedy for all it's worth, pathetic.
the government has used 9/11 to wage illegal wars and restrict our rights, but this conspiracy shit has got to stop. if the government had no qualms about killing over 3000 americans in broad daylight, these "truthers" would have been killed a long time ago
Hey Bareass where's your buddy Jarhead...in fact where are any of your buddies... Ok Dittoheads your turn...
thehappyhacker1 5 months ago
The principle of being self evident is a good way to measure the failure that is 9-11 truth. If someone were to tell me that say, they are a great golfer when they can't break 90, it is self evident that they are delusional based on their results.
Apply this to the nearly 10 year span that 9-11 truth has had, armed with all of their 'experts" and "evidence", it is apparent what they are...... losers unable to back their claims in a court of law or gain favor with any public opinion.
dreadnaught2 1 year ago
@dreadnaught2 It is self evident that you are delusional based on ignorance.
timrocket2008 11 months ago
SlightyDisturbedNBK another desprate debunker
wild0hawk 1 year ago
Wow, it's amazing to look back to 06 or 07 period and just look at how embarrassing and ridicules the loose change guys look. They had their ass handed to them in the Loose Change vs. Popular Mechanics debate. I'm almost embarrassed to have considered myself a truther once but I'm glad I came to my senses.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
@SlightyDisturbedNBK you serious? I think you need to watch that debate again.
LBxRA1D3Rx 1 year ago
@LBxRA1D3Rx Yes I am. Face facts the truth movement is all but over. Having nothing but paranoid talking points and theories full of holes.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
@SlightyDisturbedNBK Tell me an example of a theory full of holes. I hear that a lot but never get a response to that.
LBxRA1D3Rx 1 year ago
@SlightyDisturbedNBK Came to your senses and started sucking the Nazi governments dick good! Oh Yeah Bush pee in my mouth oh yeah Cheney let me take your old impotent jizz load!
anewlow23 1 year ago
@anewlow23 You are a strange little man.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
@SlightyDisturbedNBK I am not little I am 6'3 220 lbs. Your just one of those guys if you probably saw Jason Bermas in public or even talked to him over the phone you'd get owned in a debate. Yeah SlightlyDisturbed mangina now property of george w. bush and the obama cover up.
anewlow23 1 year ago
@anewlow23 I will add 'delusional' to that list.
SlightyDisturbedNBK 1 year ago
LOL!! Where is the movement Jason? Geez man the truth sure is coming huh!
foureleven666 2 years ago
hey if you know where is osama hiding so you should doing a black-op there, not bombing the land with citizens.
Lietuvispartizan 2 years ago
Ok, lemme get this straight. You pathetic bastards have a Walter Mitty Fantasy where youre saving the world from all manner of evil, just by watching YT videos. You flatter urselves with asinine fantasies where the NWO was just about the take over the world, but your awesome YouTube watching abilities beat them back.
ur life is THAT sad and pathetic that u really believe that shit. And ur talking smack to others?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
all debunkers just stfu. we know your life is shit and you have nothing better to do but get out of your moms basement and get some friends. and stop dreaming abou one day being able to suck the goverments cocks.
xXxLifeRuinerxXx 2 years ago
Sending the CIA to recruit Afghan rebel fighters to fight the Taliban and capture Bin Laden instead of using the U.S. Military to immediately capture Bin Laden. U.S. forces would not enter until Osama fled to Pakistan. Cia allowed the so called terrorist to escape before military forces occupied the country. The F.B.I doesn't even list 9/11 as a crime on Osama's most wanted poster due to lack of evidence but the close minded people arguing the need for a new investigation know over the F.B.I HA
NoxWarsxNoxKings 2 years ago
Having the President Hijack the Government as a dictator under a bullshit presidential order, and attacking the peoples rights and liberties while dismantling the Constitution, Neo-Con manifesto that praised a "new pearl harbor" so that the agenda could be put into action right away, being attacked by the tyrant Bush families allies the Royal Saudis, and then blaming countries that they want to establish a pipe line through and one to establish bases in the middle east to conquest an empire
NoxWarsxNoxKings 2 years ago
Pointing out the flaws of an amateur dvd made by two young kids and pointing out the fact that they exaggerated points to win the opinion of the audience, like every network television journalists isn't guilty of the same manipulation in their work. Ha BS. Obama media craze decided the presidency, its pure propaganda no more credible than journalists like Bermas. Its funny with all the tyranny in America this last century, of lying treasonous leaders, to false flag attacks to justify Wars,
NoxWarsxNoxKings 2 years ago
Like 19 Hijackers under the leadership of a CIA asset hiding in caves thousands of miles away, and successfully beating the most sophisticated defense system in the world isnt a "conspiracy theory"? It is such a ridiculous story i can't believe people actually consider it as true. Instead of showing your true stupidity towards the event of 9/11 and basing arguments on the credibility of Bermas and Avery's journalism. Like Corporate media journalists are more credible at Fox News?
NoxWarsxNoxKings 2 years ago
Why were the head leaders of the country that should of been held responsible able to appear together to keep a story straight and not even be put under oathe? What about the scientific analysis of the WTC dust that has forensic evidence of nano-thermite explosives? If this is such a conspiracy have a real investigation without government meddling in the process, instead of being so close minded about everything and using conspiracy theory as a form of abuse,
NoxWarsxNoxKings 2 years ago
Denial is not Patriotic,Why is having a real criminal Investigation independent from the United States Government such a big deal if its just a "conspiracy theory"? Why not have a real investigation and put the claims to rest? N.I.S.T and the scam of a investigation by the 9/11 Commission was not by any means an honest investigation. Removing the steel from the wreckage before it could be analyzed is against federal crime scene laws, what was the hurry to get rid of the evidence asap.
NoxWarsxNoxKings 2 years ago
to bad that Jason Bermas and Dylan Avery were caught of fire fighter quote mining meaning putting words into fire fighters mouth but they didn't say it.
warlord2080 2 years ago
"I'm not here to preach to the choir..." No, he's just there to promote his own DVD's, a work of fiction by Dildo Avery! Bermas is a Shameless prostitute
TheTardass 2 years ago
he proved something in a movie? what? I thought his whole movie just asked questions.
taledarkside 2 years ago
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look at my channel i am writing a book and i answer all his questions
newvideoedits 2 years ago
i met jason when he cam e to our turht group meeting. he said he wanted to sex with another man, so i gave it to him hard up the ass. itwas grate! he shouted out 9/111 was an inside job when we were done. down wit the NOW!
ConspiracyNut 3 years ago
Wow you actually spelled NWO order wrong which is only three letters.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
"The firefighters were paid off [to keep quiet about the real cause of the Tower collapses]!"
-Jason Bermas at GZ 9/11/2006
PolitikalJunkie 3 years ago
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jastheswift2 3 years ago
Ha most half of these fuckin truthers couldn't even graduate high school let alone college yet they're experts on 9/11?
R6demon08 3 years ago
hahahah dsglop got owned by Nathan! that was funny to see dickslop studder and have verbal vomit all over himself! LOL
avoozl07 3 years ago
"Not the turnout we wanted..."
Because youve been exposed as oppotunistic ghouls and more and more people realize youre spreading treasonous bile to help Alqueda get away with the attacks. All for a few bucks.
EdgemanLL2 3 years ago
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hey, edgemoron, shut your pussylips.
avoozl07 3 years ago 2
Hey, fag, stop trying to assassinate people's characters and start debating like a human. Instead of going off and calling people names, just make a relevant point, but I don't think you'll EVER change, you're one of the worst truthers, probably right there with Skully.
islandwide3338 3 years ago
maybe if you stop swallowing edgemoron's load I might take you seriously? but it's your country that is fucked up just like I fucked your mother last night.
avoozl07 3 years ago
You're talking about taking me seriously? HA I don't fucking get you but I'm fucking glad you're such a retard. I'm not gonna fight back because cursing you out proves nothing.
islandwide3338 3 years ago
like I said, when you grow up and stop sucking flunkers dicks then come talk to me. Until then, just know that I Avoozl fucking own you bitch boy. You're my bitch, now go to sleep my little bitch.
avoozl07 3 years ago
If Al Qaeda really wanted to destroy us and our country I'm pretty sure there would have been more attacks after 9/11.
If Al Qaeda really pulled this off I think they could pull off another. There hasn't been one attack since 9/11. Think about it. How hard would it be for a "terrorist" to fly into South America and then come across the Mexican border. Thousands of people do it every day, but still no terrorists after 8 years. Hmm.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
""If Al Qaeda really wanted to destroy us and our country I'm pretty sure there would have been more attacks after 9/11""
you're certainly entitled to your GUESS. But GUESSES are not facts. And given that there were 8 years between the 2 ALQ attacks on the WTC, AND given Alq's reputation for infrequent, attacks, with long periods between them, your guess isnt even an informed one.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Jason Bermas isn't "heart broken" if he called the people on the planes "secondary".
WhyAskQuestions 3 years ago
Bermass also cries that he wont get as much attention anymore. Speaking engagements are fewer and fewer.
He will have to go back to his pathetic, loser life.
EdgemanLL2 3 years ago
lol, these douchebags had their 15 minutes of fame. LOL, any of you idiots still believe these guys?
chumfilter 3 years ago
It's really sad, this country is dying and people are either in denial about it or barely care.
911insidejo8 3 years ago
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THE "STEP BY STEP" HOW TO BE A 911 TWOOFER GUIDE:
1) Put a picture of Dr. Steven Jones on your nightstand. Dr. Steven Jones is GOD!
2) Educate yourself by watching ONLY Loose Change and Zeitgeist.
3) Troll through youtube typing INSIDE JOB on every 911 video.
4) Stand on the street corner yelling "911 WAS AN INSIDE JOB", but refuse to explain HOW, WHO, and WHY.
5) Move into your parents basement and get a job delivering pizza.
6) Call anyone who challenges your theories sheep.
911morontwoofer 2 years ago
Go to google images and type:
Pentagon C ring.
Do you believe a 757 made that hole? Shouldn't the hole be bigger than the fuselage of a 757? The engines of an airliner are far more dense than the hollow aluminum fuselage, but there weren't any holes from the engines. No marks on the walls from where the engines should have impacted. And best of all no engines were found.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
""Do you believe a 757 made that hole? ""
Not aware of anyone claiming the fuselage made the hole in the C-ring.
Can't you do any better than straw man arguments?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
keep it up don't listen to the failures of evolution that are responding beneath you, they are and sadly enough they would rather you fuck your life up with drugs like thier kids do, and can't stand that you go out and seek knowledge, you seek and you'll find but you and I know tv couch potato chip junkies no the real deal lmao.
DemonosZXZ 3 years ago
"it's totally changed from fire and damage to fire that caused thermal expansion" Hmmmm....something doesn't sound quite right there...Isn't thermal expansion actually damage?! If the fire weakened steel and caused a progressive collapse, due to the damage from the steel giving way from the thermal expansion, it is STILL damage. These people focus on semantics but completely miss the point. These people are just insane troublemakers who want to ACT important and intelligent.
DiSiNf0aGeNt 3 years ago
ahahha troublemakers! I love how you name call patriots...you will not stop them. They have been shown truth and your lies will not convince anyone. Everything you have done on youtube is in vain...you remember that when your kids become Truthers bitch.
avoozl07 3 years ago
Flunker,
WRONG! My kids won't be the type of people that jump to conclusions based on assumptions and then bother people on the street as if they KNOW they are right. Truthers are nothing more than street preachers bitching about things they don't fully understand, while they assume they know everything.
PUSSY!
DiSiNf0aGeNt 3 years ago
IT's sad you have kids...just what america needs...more problems.
avoozl07 3 years ago
That is just so...YOU! I make a point that you are unable to refute so you go on to insult my children. I'm not surprised. Keep up the good work! You are the voice of the chemtards.
DiSiNf0aGeNt 3 years ago
Btw that was in response to avoozl07. Avooz why don't you read over the NIST report and tell us where exactly it is incorrect? Also the building did not fall at free fall speed.
Physman2011 3 years ago
Isn't it amazing how many people use that term "free fall speed" without having the slightest clue what that actually means? These people pick up these terms and phrases and pass them around as if they know what they are talking about. It makes them feel special to be involved in a "cause" as part of a group demanding change. It's too funny!
DiSiNf0aGeNt 3 years ago
Bermas is an american hero!
avoozl07 3 years ago
HAHAHA!!!!
He is a hero to little retards who have no clue about science or geo politics so I'm really not surprised you are a fan.
dsglop 3 years ago
oh you mean like the science that WT7 fell because of fire, when it was the only building in history to ever fall at freefall speed due to fire? WOw, you're a genius. Keep in mind that I have defeated you before logically...you really want to go down the road of Science?
avoozl07 3 years ago
For thousands of years people used logic to deduce that more massive objects must fall faster than light ones.
And did he say that a collapse due to thermal expansion does not make sense? His statement doesn't make sense. Why does anyone believe what he has to say about anything? He is not an expert and clearly does not know what he is talking about.
Physman2011 3 years ago
uh...because it doesn't make sense according to the law of physics. Listen, you don't have to be a rocket scientist to figure it out, WT7 COULD NOT HAVE FELL BECAUSE OF FIRE. Stop with your bullshit "NIST is smarter than us" crap...do you even know what branch of government NIST works for?
avoozl07 3 years ago
Umm...what law of physics is violated? Is there a law stating no building can fall due to thermal expansion of its beams (maybe one of Newton's more obscure laws)? Must have missed that one. I didn't say NIST is smarter...but they are experts. Who are you to question them? You have quite the ego if you think you can explain a complicated event such as a building collapse with sheer logic. Where as others went to school for years to study physics/engineering... you simply know what happened.
Physman2011 3 years ago
You have experts on both sides just one side is heard more than the other which seems to be very common in the USA. The media calls anyone who questions NIST "conspiracy nuts", "lunatics", etc...If you bother to look for answers go to BLIP(DOT)TV and search: HOW THE TOWERS FELL
I personally don't know for sure but I wouldn't trust anyone from the executive branch in the united states...that's just common sense.
avoozl07 3 years ago
So you've given up on your scientific argument it seems. I don't care if you question NIST but at least be able to back up what you say.
Physman2011 3 years ago
You didn't answer my question but I will answer yours. Look up The Law Of Resistance...it's impossible for WT7 to have fallen at freefall speed due to that law. I haven't given up anything, we're just getting started. It appears you have given up common sense and that is far worse than giving up your supposed assertion of me giving up a scientific answer.
avoozl07 3 years ago
Building 7 did not fall at free fall speed. Law of resistance? I think you are referring to Newton's first law....and how exactly is it violated? And no I won't be drawn off topic by your random questions. Of course if I did not know the answer I could look it up in about 2 seconds....so what would that prove? Unlike you I really only talk about something if I understand it. I don't parrot what I see online.
Physman2011 3 years ago
Do you know what freefall speed is? It's violated because there would have been too much resistance in the building structure to have collapsed as fast as it did. NIST has changed their story 3 times or am I just parroting more facts to you(sarcasm). Listen here...if you believe the internet is "bad" then why do you use it? IF you believe it is unreliable then get out of here...otherwise keep ridiculous comments like "I don't parrot what I see online" to yourself, it only hurts your argument.
avoozl07 3 years ago
When you say freefall speed I think you really mean freefall acceleration. Using the actual time of collapse you can calculate the actual acceleration and it is less than 9.81 m/s(squared) (which is what it would be for an object in free fall). I never said the internet is bad/unreliable. However, a person shouldn't blindly repeat what they read without a basic understanding of the topics involved.
Physman2011 3 years ago
Without the internet it would be so much easier to control how people think, that is why so many people are waking up to criminal governments such as the USA. It was much easier to control how people think with tv and the printed press...now within seconds you can have access to things people have done and said decades ago. Do not underestimate the power of the internet and stop overestimating the intelligence of "so-called" experts. Here is a vid for you:
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avoozl07 3 years ago
BLIP(DOT)TV!!!!????
WOW! You sure proved your point with THAT! A website that mirrors YOUR opinion?! Holy shit!
Man, you sure know how to school people on the net with your vast knowledge! I mean doing a google search and accepting anything that comes up as "fact" makes you a fucking genius! Fuck going to a university for engineering and learning the details about a subject! One can get the meat and potatoes about ANY subject just by googling it! And it's all TRUE!!!! Good call Flunker!!!
DiSiNf0aGeNt 3 years ago
So he's curious about how the history of 911 will be taught.I think people will look back and say'there was a time when many people got duped by a gang of lying morons.'
dsglop 3 years ago
the only moron is you bitch and your drawings suck...stick figures proves there is NO NEW WORLD ORDER. It's amazing retards like you can even tie your shoes...then again you probably wear velcro shoes.
avoozl07 3 years ago
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now I know what you look like motherfucker.
be seeing you.
avoozl07 3 years ago
"No one cares about your spam so please stop wasting your and my time because your comments will simply be deleted."
if you didn't care about my comments you wouldn't have gone out of your way to block me from making more.
it is understandable that many debunkers are afraid to discuss the faked footage shown on 911. many debunkers are intelligent enough to know that regurgitating the official story does not work in refuting the evidence for faked footage, so blocking is the best bet.
jastheswift2 3 years ago
No we really don't care.Your comments are nothing but pollution.Stop stalking me.
dsglop 3 years ago
"No we really don't care.Your comments are nothing but pollution.Stop stalking me."
it is your choice to feel bothered by my comments.
jastheswift2 3 years ago
I'm more amused than anything
dsglop 3 years ago
"I'm more amused than anything"
you are amused at the fact that footage was faked?
jastheswift2 3 years ago
I am amused that little tards like you keep saying the footage was faked even after it was explained to you why it was not faked.
dsglop 3 years ago
"I am amused that little tards like you keep saying the footage was faked even after it was explained to you why it was not faked."
who has debunked the evidence as seen in "911 amateur," parts 1-3? also, who has debunked the conclusion that a bluescreen type apparatus was used, which enabled the superimposition of fake images onto the footage that was allegedly live?
i'm not a "tard" -there is little need for you to engage in pathetic and useless name-calling.
jastheswift2 3 years ago
watch?v=cK2E3rQGqU4
jastheswift2 3 years ago
No plane hit Building 7 and it fell down with perfect symmetry.
WTC 4, 5, and 6 all had way more damage than WTC 7, and guess what? They didn't collapse. Compare images of WTC 4, 5, 6, and 7 and pick the one with the worst damage. Which one is it? It isn't 7, so why did it fall?
And what puched the hole in the C ring of the Pentagon?It's definitely too small to be the fuselage of a 757. And the Pentagon's security cameras were unable to capture one frame of the incoming plane?Yeah right.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
1) hardly perfect symmetry, since it fell over and into the verizion building
2) Just because the explanation for 7 is over ur head, doesnt make it false
3) If you understood physics at a basic level, it would make perfect sense that lower, flatter smaller building (cage designed, unlike 7) SHOULD be able to sustain more damage.
4) Please provide ur deadground map for the pentagon's cameras, then indicate which camera should have captured the approach.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
You low budget shills have to work weekends now?
Maybe you should watch the collapse of Building 7 instead of spouting out lines from the script your boss gave you.
It had minimal damage to one corner, and yet all four corners failed at the same time.
They don't teach about "Cage designed buildings" in physics class. If you had taken one you would know that.
And as a civilian I doubt the Pentagon would give me a diagram of their surveillance layout. Poor shill. Literally.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
Why is everyone smarter that you kooks a shill?
Maybe you should take ur own advice, and research for yourself, instead of spouting the talking points Alqaeda gave you.
to repeat, 1) Just because you dont understand it, doesnt make it fale.
Further 2) I didnt SAY the taught cage designs in physics class.
If YOU had the reading comprehension of a 10 year old, YOU would know that.
But, to have taken a physics class, is to KNOW...
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
cont....that even if EVERYTHING is 100 the exact same between 2 buildings (except one is a smaller version of the other) the smaller one will be able to take as lot more damage than the taller one.
Thats why anyone with a room temp IQ (ie anyone smarter than a twoofer) understands why engineers have made small gains at a time, in building height.
According Kevin and the rest of the kooks we should be building 3,000 story buildings just as easily as a 3 story one. Because
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
cont2...according to kook "logic" there is no increased risk that higher up you go, the more vulnerable to collapse the building is.
But, for the rest of us on Planet Educated, it makes perfect sense that a lower, smaller building (cage design) can take a lot more punishment than a "tube-tube" design thats nearly 10x as tall.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
"Why is everyone smarter that you kooks a shill?"
Is that even English?
"If YOU had the reading comprehension of a 10 year old"
You are half right; I would be much better off if I were 10 years old right now. You can't even write you poor bastard.
Have a nice weekend my $10 an hour shill. Or wait do you get time and a half for weekends?
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
""Is that even English?""
Yep.
Sorry, I dumbed it down as far as I could. Take it to a 5th grader. Maybe they can read it to you? ROFL!!!!
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
You definitely dumbed it down. It being you.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
blah blah blah. Cant handle the facts, obsesses over me instead. blah blah blah.
Typical twoofer.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Also, Kev, please explain how falling over onto buildings across the street is "perfectly symetrical?"
Is it
a) Kev is a moron, who has done no research?
or
b) Kev is a moron who thinks a building across the street counts as "in the footprint and symmetrically within the WT7 bondaries?
Class will note. Kev is a moron either way.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
You should just stop attempting to write in the English language. Educated people will see me write, and then they see whatever it is that you are doing, and they will know who the "moron" is. So just give up shill.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
Translation? Edge is right.
Kev cant answer. So he pretends to blame his inability to read on someone else. Completely changing the subject to ME, because he cant face the facts, and cant answer the quesitons.
LOLOLOL
and they wonder why no one takes them seriously? HAHAHAHHAA
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
""And as a civilian I doubt the Pentagon would give me a diagram of their surveillance layout.""
Thus proving you have NO reason at all to believe another camera would have caught a better look at 77.
So, why lie and pretend another camera would have? When you KNOW you have no proof?
How much does Alq pay you to make excuses for them?
Or is your treasonous slander against my country done for free??
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
It is the Pentagon. It is one of the most secure buildings in the world, and supported by an unlimited military budget. It is safe to say it is covered with surveillance (video cameras). Walmart is covered with cameras, and that isn't exactly a military installation. I'm sure the Pentagon has at least that level of security. If someone breaks into a car in the Walmart parking lot they will be on camera, but the Pentagon's cameras can't pick up a 400,000lb aircraft approaching? Right.
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
""It is the Pentagon.""
None of that changes the FACT that until you know where the cams ARE, youre just guessing.
"" Walmart is covered with cameras, ""
yeah retard. And how many of the Walmart cameras are pointed up at the sky in case a plane crashes into the building?
How many, retard? Tell me! Tell me how many cameras at the wal mart are pointed up at the sky, watching for apporaching airplanes?
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
None of the cameras are pointed towards the sky. Not one; which works out well because the approaching aircraft was in ground effect.
The plane was parallel to the ground when it impacted; it didn't dive into the building.
And they actually pay you for this?
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
JustanotherKookspiratard,
The flight path was a descent to the point. Morons believe it was level, because they only see the last split second, and the glide slope was 80-1, due to the high forward speed.
So, while I apprecaite youve never researched this, actually, the plane was descending.
and since you admit, no cams would be pointed up, and away from the building, Really no cameras would have caught it any better than the BG shot we already had.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
Wouldn't the government pay for you to take an English writing class?
justanotherkevin 2 years ago
Justanotherkookspiratard,
blog*mlive*com/grpress/2007/10/large_entry1*jpg
There is a shot from a typical security camera. Please explain to me how---if an airplane is speeding in from the west--that camera will see it approach the building.
Was that too hard a question? Or need I dumb it down further? LOL
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
the cameras at the pentagon didnt even need to be pointed up. the "plane" hit the pentagon at such a low and perfect angle that it didnt even leave a single scratch on the grass
xXxLifeRuinerxXx 2 years ago
"it didnt even leave a single scratch on the grass "
Planes fly OVER things, retard. Planes fly over laws all the time and not scratch them.
Duh.
review my previous explanation as the camera position.
EdgemanLL2 2 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
"Planes fly OVER things, retard. Planes fly over laws all the time and not scratch them."
When planes fly that LOW into the pentagon it should scratch the grass.
Duh.
review this comment as the camera position.
punaj 1 year ago
1. WTC 7 didn't fall in perfect symmetry. It leaned, then came the penthouse down and in the end the outer structure collapses from one side to the other.
2. Hugh parts were scooped out, multifloor fires and a unique design brought building 7 down.
3. What was it, that "punched" a hole that "small" in the C-ring? Please explain!
You guys bring up the same old and long answered shit time and time again, but maybe you have some consistent answers...
Hochdorff 2 years ago
Bermas and Alex Jones will be making this their life. Planning ahead to 2o11 means they will work to make sure nothng changes until then. I saw that when I met Avery and him. Avery figured it out it seems but Bermas is hooked on the AJones juicer.
911fooledagain 3 years ago
Bermas is hinting that we get ready for the 10 year anniversary? Did you catch that subconcious plant? What nonsense...
... We can't wait that long.
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perpwatch 3 years ago
"Which version of 9/11 will school kids be taught?" Jason asks.
Well it certainly won't be your "9/11 was an inside job even though I'm just asking questions" version, ya fucking knob.
The twit doesn't even understand any of the engineering reports that he so casually dismisses.
CHF2 3 years ago
9/11 "truthers" exemplify faulty logic. If somebody can present a well-reasoned theory on why fuel-packed airliners knocking the fireproofing off of steel columns and heating them until they weakened to the point of failure was not the cause of collapse, I'll listen. It would take months of drilling and planting tens of thousands of pounds of explosives (all connected by miles of visible det cord) in buildings that would have to be empty in order to control demo the WTC.
norsehorse78 3 years ago
dishonest bastard milking a tragedy for all it's worth, pathetic.
the government has used 9/11 to wage illegal wars and restrict our rights, but this conspiracy shit has got to stop. if the government had no qualms about killing over 3000 americans in broad daylight, these "truthers" would have been killed a long time ago
norsehorse78 3 years ago
That's faulty logic. Israel's done many false flags before 9/11 & so has the U.S.
DaveIrie 3 years ago
good point.
avoozl07 3 years ago